I love how all the fish were watching the lobster. They were probably saying this to the owner, "now do you see why we were discriminating against the crustacea?! We Osteichthyes like to keep to ourselves."
i thought my lobster is dying then i just throw it in the canal but then i searched about lobsters then i realize its not dying but it is moulting i feel too bad about my lobster :(
now one of my lobster is moulting and its claws became blue i dont know maybe my lobster is a rare blue one...
you know there is something wrong when instead of appreciating an animal or any living thing for it's wonderful beauty you lust after it's flesh and can't think of anything else but consuming it.
@shamrock608 Lol, i wish. If i'm not mistaken that is a blue australian crayfish. Fresh water lobsters aren't really good for eating. I have one of these guys in my 80 gallon tank about 7-8inches now. He's getting ready to moult soon, hopefully i can catch that on tape. I'm getting tired of just finding lobster husks.
i was at a crystal beach in galveston and i found this shell fish that looked just like a lobster head and no tail. well its tail was tucked under its body. it was about the size of someones thumb and was whitish pink.
hi i'm thinking of getting a pet lobster but i dont really know how 2 look after it, i mean can u put it in a tank and will it be ok like a fish. can some1 help please. great vid by the way.
I think you're supposed to leave the shell in the tank. I heard the lobsters (or cracbs?) eat their shell to rebuild their calcium levels for their new shell.
ok so it grew and it molted... that's what i'm saying. if it molts that means it's gotten too big for it's exoskeleton. maybe they DO moult even when they don't grow but it's not on the regular basis. I've had a crab for 3 months that eats fuckloads of food and never moults. he ate a bunch of baby fish that died on me :(
This is a Australian lobster you fucking dick weeds who know shit, i also have one, if yours died you dont know how to look after them and therefore know jack shit about them.
Forget the water this thing is in. It's obvious that it's not a true lobster in the first place, given the size/shape, as well as the claw shape. More like a large prawn or a langostino.
This post comes from a resident of coastal Maine.
look, I know that's a crayfish because I have some at home and I know how they look like, and as well, the fishes that are in the background are FRESHWATER PLATYS, so you are completely wrong on your statement.
Hush, silly. *Not* completely wrong. There are plenty of freshwater varieties of prawn. That's why I mentioned that the of water made no difference: as there are prawns and langostinos that exist in freshwater. El burro sabe más que tú.
Mira, si quieres que te lo diga en castellano claro, ya lo sé que existen varias especies de gambas en agua dulce, pero LANGOSTINOS sólo hay en agua salada. Y además esto no es agua salada, por lo tanto, ésto es un cangrejo de río(crayfish). Lo afirmo porque lo sé.
I never said it wasn't a crayfish, you thick idiot. What I was attempting to indicate was that it was obvious in the first place that it wasn't a lobster, and that your indication of the type of water this is in made no difference. It was immaterial; unnecessary.
hey, calm down you filthy ass mexican, I wasn't insulting here, I was arguing like a normal person, so settle down your little nerves and learn how to dialogue like a normal person would do.
as well, you never said that it wasn't a crayfish, but you said it was a langostino or a prawn, and what I was intending to indicate was that you were wrong, so the only thick idiot around here is apparently YOU.
...or *you* are the fool... for wasting so much time to make a moot point with *irrelevant observations*. And for presuming I'm Mexican. I've been to the country once in my life for 2 hrs. I may have some capability with Spanish, but I have fluency in German, Welsh, and Dutch. I'm a fourth-generation descendant of very non-Mexican Europeans who came to the U.S. Now, kindly hacete coger, & bwytwch cachu.
this apparently was no waste of time, because you FINALLY after many comments learned something about crayfishes and I finally learnt that the word DIALOGUE means absolutely nothing to you.. and I point again, dont be such an aggressive little asswipe on your little dissing comments when my only intention is to make a point.
and I dont give a shit to your muddled up nationality. This was some"immaterial and irrelevant information" like you say. Now I hope you understand that you are being a little bitch just because I made a simple point and realize that you were the one to waste your own time. You could perfectly ignore or just be a little more humble and understand the point I was making before on this little fucking video.
It's pretty big but arent CRAYFISH freshwater and lobsters SALTWATER? I know for sure that platys are tropical which is freshwater so...??? Saltwater dont go well with freshwater
if you check out my uploads u will see ive got one of these type of lobsters she was bought for me but ive never known the name of the species i was told it was a lagoon lobster is this right ????
they moult many times before you actually eat them. after a lobster moults we call them shedders. meaning they have just shed thier old shell. they tend to have a sweeter meat and are easier to rip open and eat x)
Shes got her lobster already picked out at Meijers and wants to save him before hes eaten. No one here in MI knows how to take care of them. Any tips? Hes a big old dude. Saltwater I assume and eat live goldfish?
Lobsters are easy to take care of! Just feed it a nice size piece of chicken, lobsters r scavengers and will eat almost anything, and they live in salt water
I wasn't aware there was such a thing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the closest you get to a freshwater lobster is a cray/crawfish, right? And those little buggers don't grow any bigger than three inches, yeah?
You are correct, lobsters are the saltwater variety as a rule. Crayfish, like the one in this vid originate from freshwatered environments and are found in rivers, streams etc. This variety is known as the Red Clawed Crayfish.
little do we know the fish are throwig racial insults and harassig the poor lobster at his time of distress
IsArtanisAzn 3 weeks ago
One of my yoga teachers used this moulting as an analogy for our progress as students. Very nice symbolism.
rfmckenna1 2 months ago in playlist rfmckenna1's favorites
poor thing has no shelter what if the fish rip parts of his soft areas off him/her?
LionGoddess1 5 months ago
It Is Out Of Order To Boil Lobsters Cray Fish Alive How Would You like It Huh You Wouldn't Would You?
LuusHModz 6 months ago
@LuusHModz Dead lobsters are no good for eating.
Zuljitak 6 months ago
is it really a lobster of a crayfish.......(another word for it is crawfish)
blackopsdude2 6 months ago
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ANBisme 7 months ago
@ANBisme Flagged for dumb ass-ness
montanashan101 5 months ago
My leg!!!
RiorXD 8 months ago
NICE!
TheVINEONE 8 months ago
wow they are the eat of the crayfish?
i'm sorry ,no talking english
SalvazFilm 8 months ago
still the platy's got my attention :P
Riptaliator 8 months ago
all the other fish are like. lololololooll
01noah10 9 months ago
I love how all the fish were watching the lobster. They were probably saying this to the owner, "now do you see why we were discriminating against the crustacea?! We Osteichthyes like to keep to ourselves."
derlychapa1 9 months ago
he looks cool
cutiegirls4ever 11 months ago
real life
musicinatin 11 months ago
1:30 - 1:34
"Ahhh, this is the life."
Notoria666 1 year ago 5
hawt
xx99strrxx 1 year ago
boneless, well, shelless lobster! :D
All natural! :D
ChaosBW 1 year ago
best time to eat it, no hard carapace to stop you,lol
xxbxexnxx 1 year ago
Those little fish were saying, " Put your pants back on! This is a family restaurant!"
jeromeqi 1 year ago
@jeromeqi No...no, they weren't.
tonic2gin 1 year ago 3
@Rockyrock6632 Yes, they are different. Google "Crayfish vs. Lobster" and you'll find some websites that'll explain the differences.
IrisReola 1 year ago
aw at the fish checking things out :)
tboy13084 1 year ago
Does it grows a new shell again?
cutiko 1 year ago
@cutiko YES
bembry3000 1 year ago
@cutiko yes it does
fatalframer40 1 year ago
after molting i need to wait how long for its shell to be hard ?
After molting the best part is the fillers ! ITS SO MAJESTIC !
soulzyxxx 1 year ago
after molting i need to wait how long for its shell to be hard ?
soulzyxxx 1 year ago
TRANSFORMERS!!!!
123codfan 1 year ago
Zoidberg
hundanth 1 year ago
THIS IS SOOOO disturbing O.O
killtype 1 year ago
im hungry
AfroN1nj4 1 year ago
LOL @ the fish going over to check out the shrimp
Serg300 1 year ago
Fuck dude, tell that lobster to cover up.
clanerp 1 year ago
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LOL the fish are so fascinated
SpliffusBongicaOfGor 1 year ago
hey guys how come the shell is still moving on its own?????????
UchihaTerror 1 year ago
@UchihaTerror OOOH nvm lol i feel dumb
i thought the shell was the lobster and the lobster was the shell xD
UchihaTerror 1 year ago
FOOD!! And without hurting the lobster. I wonder what exoskelleton tastes like?
supermaletperson 1 year ago
lol my crawfish ate its shedded skin is was funny
MissChris15 1 year ago
@MissChris15 Means you didn' give it another source of food :p
Sputters 1 year ago
that is so bizarre yet awesome at the same time XD
yeoshMYC 1 year ago
gross!
Annetjie 1 year ago
that is awesome!
ratcrib 1 year ago
thats not interesting
baxmonstertrak 1 year ago
@baxmonstertrak that's because you're dull
stevensartifacts 1 year ago
pretty interesting
toolovesomeone 1 year ago
ninja lobster using replication.. xD
steveknight 1 year ago
i thought my lobster is dying then i just throw it in the canal but then i searched about lobsters then i realize its not dying but it is moulting i feel too bad about my lobster :(
now one of my lobster is moulting and its claws became blue i dont know maybe my lobster is a rare blue one...
rpgshinok 2 years ago
I have a lobster just like that, and I just witnessed him molting. This is an amazing process.
Northerndrake 2 years ago
Has he started to eat your fish yet? Mine started eating fish right before he gained the red/orage on his large claws.
Lvbites 2 years ago
is this a crayfish or lobster???...what is the life expectancy of one???
jjjazzycraig 2 years ago
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justingolden 2 years ago
@jjjazzycraig its a lobster, lobsters do not age like humans, they only die of sickness and competition
daonejorge 1 year ago
Always cool to catch an animal in ecdysis. I've only seen my snakes do it a few times, they are pretty secretive. :D
maarakailet1 2 years ago
wow ur so lucky u can sustain its life!!!!!
nightcreeper09 2 years ago
oh wow!
latina666ful 2 years ago
Can we eat it now?
Chapels 2 years ago
I think its cool how after they moult they're all squishy and stuff and then they harden up again.
Uchihaman1234 2 years ago
now fish him out and eat the bugger
shamrock608 2 years ago 29
@shamrock608
eat your fingers that typed that nonsense. not everything is food.
ratcrib 1 year ago
@ratcrib y is it nonsense ? they taste good
shamrock608 1 year ago
@shamrock608
you know there is something wrong when instead of appreciating an animal or any living thing for it's wonderful beauty you lust after it's flesh and can't think of anything else but consuming it.
ratcrib 1 year ago
@shamrock608 Lol, i wish. If i'm not mistaken that is a blue australian crayfish. Fresh water lobsters aren't really good for eating. I have one of these guys in my 80 gallon tank about 7-8inches now. He's getting ready to moult soon, hopefully i can catch that on tape. I'm getting tired of just finding lobster husks.
DeceptiveSoul 5 months ago
wow. Fascinating. Thanks for posting this.
Dudeyowuzup 2 years ago
soft shell lobster?
waldoshot42 2 years ago 2
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just like a snake
atommo918 2 years ago
just like a snake
atommo918 2 years ago
Very Kool, I have a Blue Lobster he has molted 5 times and I've never seen it.
chuk739 2 years ago
1:13 Thank GOD I'm out of there ahhhhhhhh
chaotictorment 2 years ago
the fishes are like
-hey look there to lobsters
miaufun 2 years ago
a little bit of privacy ?
ozyabbyman 2 years ago 2
The fishs are like "WTF?"
MrKit3n 2 years ago 4
they both look like the shell and the soft body are alive
glentton 2 years ago
the platies are eyeing him offf...wat pussys!
lolatyourguche 2 years ago
ahhahahahaha XD the new shell is so soft that his legs look like noodles xD
kol video though! centipedes eat their old shells after. kool to see that stuff :)
MatchuCT 2 years ago
wow... it looks alot like a crawdad!!!
polkadotgurl12596 2 years ago
haha nice it looks like it just relaxes at the end.
R0WMaC 2 years ago
The fish should have attacked when they had their chance!
RichardsCW 2 years ago
what do like really young lobsters look like?
i was at a crystal beach in galveston and i found this shell fish that looked just like a lobster head and no tail. well its tail was tucked under its body. it was about the size of someones thumb and was whitish pink.
HeyImChinese 2 years ago
That's about what they look like. It could have also been a little crawfish, I think they're far more common in shallow water than lobsters are.
caffeinato 2 years ago
Im pretty sure that's a crawfish
taijungee 2 years ago
1:31 "Phew! I'm spent."
colonelxcustard 3 years ago 3
Once he gets out of her old shell, its like he relaxes and said 'Freedom!' lol
SamiMocha 3 years ago 2
OMG, a nude Lobster!
KarilsTiger 3 years ago 36
@KarilsTiger D: GIVE THE GUY SOME PRIVACY!!
Goopycrunchi681 10 months ago
nice attempt at break dancing near the end
Dyller1212 3 years ago
What is for lunch?
LordAxathe 3 years ago
hi i'm thinking of getting a pet lobster but i dont really know how 2 look after it, i mean can u put it in a tank and will it be ok like a fish. can some1 help please. great vid by the way.
seel1990 3 years ago
now that was pretty neat--how long does it take for the new skin/shell to become hard?
mazie5968 3 years ago
wow, it just threw away its armor and made a new one, just like crayfish.
Jimster010 3 years ago
wtf it jus gave birth to itself no parents involved it brought itself to the world!!!awesum
baxmonstertrak 3 years ago
No, it just shed it's skin.
Joeyg143 2 years ago
are you sure that shit is not drunk?
baxmonstertrak 3 years ago
mine one is bigger than this
mayukhbd 3 years ago
that guy is pretty big i bet he poops alot lol
wontonchewer 3 years ago
Yummy, now when you cook it, you dont have to crack anything(=
LOL jk
johnplusknee 3 years ago
It's funny how after the lobster came out it's shell all the fish came to watch it.
monkeyjamzz 3 years ago
wow
steviepotter40 3 years ago
lol hes all bendy
kaysikat 3 years ago
this is awesome.first time to see it...do they moult when it reach 14 lbs?
kneedesk 3 years ago
they moult their entire lives
BrandonMSwan 3 years ago
Thanks for the information.We were lucky then to have Lobster KONG and saving its shell now hanging of our wall.
kneedesk 3 years ago
I think you're supposed to leave the shell in the tank. I heard the lobsters (or cracbs?) eat their shell to rebuild their calcium levels for their new shell.
leftyjerker 3 years ago
Lobster KONG was a 14 lbs Lobster,can't leave the shell in the tank. It's hanging on the wall.check Kong's videos.
kneedesk 3 years ago
actually they only molt when they grow. if they stop growing they stop molting. and they do stop growing :'(
SpitRhyma 3 years ago
but they grow from 14 lbs KONG to 18 , to 22 etc..so the still moult I guess...
Nides
kneedesk 3 years ago
ok so it grew and it molted... that's what i'm saying. if it molts that means it's gotten too big for it's exoskeleton. maybe they DO moult even when they don't grow but it's not on the regular basis. I've had a crab for 3 months that eats fuckloads of food and never moults. he ate a bunch of baby fish that died on me :(
SpitRhyma 3 years ago
lol looks like he taken his shoes off after a hard days work
littlecrabboy 3 years ago
wow, cool! never knew that they do that!
da1nonlydoron 3 years ago
moult! moult! moult! ¡Son los caballeros de la mar!
boyakasha777 3 years ago
Everyone wants to argue that it's not a lobster. Truth is they are sold in pet stores as a "Red Lobster", therefore people think that's what it is.
NAH2Osurf 3 years ago
he looks very relieved
lightemup 3 years ago
PS Like soft shelled crab, you have an opportunity for soft shelled lobster, yum~
NinjaParakeet 3 years ago
is it being raised as a pet or for food? O.o kinda odd having a lobster for a pet, no offense intended
NinjaParakeet 3 years ago
not really and this isn't a lobster its a crayfish or crawfish crawfish are fresh water lobsters are salt
ZetsuKai452 3 years ago
Woah. Never seen nothin like this!
keithholden 3 years ago
This is a Australian lobster you fucking dick weeds who know shit, i also have one, if yours died you dont know how to look after them and therefore know jack shit about them.
ferret008 3 years ago
ok a little info, its a crawfish not a lobster lobsters are, and yes it is a pet i used to have one but it died :(
tsunami400 3 years ago
and garys737 IS A MORON
watch the whole video you idiot and learn a thing or two about aquaria before you open your fly trap
brockhammerstein 3 years ago
Your animal is sick, not moulting>>>>>>
garys737 3 years ago
awesome, i have the same kind of lobster, i've never seen him moulting though, i always wake up to an empty shell!
Dan
intense40 3 years ago
A little creepy, yes, but very, very beautiful. Thanks.
EmdrGreg 3 years ago
lol, it's cute how the fishes are just watching when the lobster moults.
arenaskies 3 years ago
Would you eat it?
Relics416 3 years ago 2
That's really cool. Is this a pet?
OGIGA 3 years ago
cool video, i finally caught my lobster molting check out my channel for the vid.
orgazmo1009 3 years ago
Look at the fish checkin' it out.
robin56 3 years ago 3
I agree.. Its obviously not a lobster, they have larger claws, and small eyestalks (small ones) and dont swim like that thing did.
JDOfPivot 3 years ago
Its Kinda Sad that nasty comments make it onto an innocent video that someone kindly put up for the curiosity of other peoples similar interests.
Anyway, cool video dude, I have a lobster too but never seen him shed his shell.
sketchyydude 3 years ago 3
creepy but awesome
falsebaroness 3 years ago
thats not a lobster.. thats a crayfish... dont you see freshwater fish on the background?? =_='
Nakka92 3 years ago
Forget the water this thing is in. It's obvious that it's not a true lobster in the first place, given the size/shape, as well as the claw shape. More like a large prawn or a langostino.
This post comes from a resident of coastal Maine.
AkkordionBloke 3 years ago
look, I know that's a crayfish because I have some at home and I know how they look like, and as well, the fishes that are in the background are FRESHWATER PLATYS, so you are completely wrong on your statement.
Nakka92 3 years ago
Hush, silly. *Not* completely wrong. There are plenty of freshwater varieties of prawn. That's why I mentioned that the of water made no difference: as there are prawns and langostinos that exist in freshwater. El burro sabe más que tú.
AkkordionBloke 3 years ago
Mira, si quieres que te lo diga en castellano claro, ya lo sé que existen varias especies de gambas en agua dulce, pero LANGOSTINOS sólo hay en agua salada. Y además esto no es agua salada, por lo tanto, ésto es un cangrejo de río(crayfish). Lo afirmo porque lo sé.
Nakka92 3 years ago
I never said it wasn't a crayfish, you thick idiot. What I was attempting to indicate was that it was obvious in the first place that it wasn't a lobster, and that your indication of the type of water this is in made no difference. It was immaterial; unnecessary.
AkkordionBloke 3 years ago
hey, calm down you filthy ass mexican, I wasn't insulting here, I was arguing like a normal person, so settle down your little nerves and learn how to dialogue like a normal person would do.
Nakka92 3 years ago
as well, you never said that it wasn't a crayfish, but you said it was a langostino or a prawn, and what I was intending to indicate was that you were wrong, so the only thick idiot around here is apparently YOU.
Nakka92 3 years ago
...or *you* are the fool... for wasting so much time to make a moot point with *irrelevant observations*. And for presuming I'm Mexican. I've been to the country once in my life for 2 hrs. I may have some capability with Spanish, but I have fluency in German, Welsh, and Dutch. I'm a fourth-generation descendant of very non-Mexican Europeans who came to the U.S. Now, kindly hacete coger, & bwytwch cachu.
AkkordionBloke 3 years ago
this apparently was no waste of time, because you FINALLY after many comments learned something about crayfishes and I finally learnt that the word DIALOGUE means absolutely nothing to you.. and I point again, dont be such an aggressive little asswipe on your little dissing comments when my only intention is to make a point.
Nakka92 3 years ago
and I dont give a shit to your muddled up nationality. This was some"immaterial and irrelevant information" like you say. Now I hope you understand that you are being a little bitch just because I made a simple point and realize that you were the one to waste your own time. You could perfectly ignore or just be a little more humble and understand the point I was making before on this little fucking video.
Nakka92 3 years ago
Now I'm the one that doesn't want to waste my time on such an ignorant asswipe like you, so shut the fuck up and get along with it.
Nakka92 3 years ago
You have made a mistake.
AkkordionBloke 3 years ago
Lobster Dying sound better.
thehegt 3 years ago
Ahhh time to lay back and relax..
courtcases 3 years ago
The fish looked curious right after it separated!
rizwan602 3 years ago 4
LOL... yeah, it looks like the fish start rubbernecking!
tams76 3 years ago
Freaky! O.o xD
890fireheart890 3 years ago
Real nice! howd u get a lobster.. if it IS one..
It's pretty big but arent CRAYFISH freshwater and lobsters SALTWATER? I know for sure that platys are tropical which is freshwater so...??? Saltwater dont go well with freshwater
DaEliminator 3 years ago
if you check out my uploads u will see ive got one of these type of lobsters she was bought for me but ive never known the name of the species i was told it was a lagoon lobster is this right ????
carlam444 3 years ago
nobody luvs me they just want 2 eat me :-(
L00NEYLOBSTER 3 years ago 4
O.O
Zane560 3 years ago
lobsters are canibals
imacreepimawierdo 3 years ago
wow that's awesome
JeffSayYes 3 years ago
haha moulting , cool word it sounds like moutin or eu geue meue leue
Wanderbein 3 years ago
That's quite incredible that you saw the pot boiling.
MegatronYES 3 years ago
I've had my Australian blue lobster for a year now and I've never managed to catch him moulting! Thanks so much for putting this up!
gummered 4 years ago
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that's not a lobster
it's a freshwater prawn
thephasdin 4 years ago
Whatever it is, it looks like it's about to attack the enterprize! :s lol
hairmetal666 4 years ago
prawn?? crayfish?
shamuslauer1 4 years ago
Prawns are very small animals. That was definately a lobster.
ShadowCPU 3 years ago
now correct me if im wrong but is it true your nott supposed to eat them after they have molted?
JohnSheppard339 4 years ago
never heard about that... just molted crab is delicious....
soft shell crab =D
vslsubspam 3 years ago
they moult many times before you actually eat them. after a lobster moults we call them shedders. meaning they have just shed thier old shell. they tend to have a sweeter meat and are easier to rip open and eat x)
ya19375 3 years ago 2
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i like to kill lobsters and stuff like that cause the blood its so cool blood taste good
dralic43 4 years ago
vampire
JohnSheppard339 4 years ago 7
mmm, soft shelled lobster
NinjaParakeet 4 years ago
My daughter wants a pet lobster, where did you find out how to take care of him?
LuvsChopin 4 years ago
there is 1 left at petco in oklahoma jenks and they will tell u how to take care of it
robdawg300 4 years ago 2
Shes got her lobster already picked out at Meijers and wants to save him before hes eaten. No one here in MI knows how to take care of them. Any tips? Hes a big old dude. Saltwater I assume and eat live goldfish?
LuvsChopin 4 years ago
this is robdawg300 but look it up on google they no everything
marissaf09 4 years ago
Not saltwater, freshwater. This crustacean i nthe vid is actually a crayfish, the freshwater dwellers.
JazSung 4 years ago
Lobsters are easy to take care of! Just feed it a nice size piece of chicken, lobsters r scavengers and will eat almost anything, and they live in salt water
ILoveThickChicks88 4 years ago
thats tight to watch them molt i wanted to watch a crab i caught, baby, molt but unfortunatly sheep head got the little turd
CommanderDik 4 years ago
alien
arma44300 4 years ago
they scare me.
hostel969 4 years ago 2
Congratulations, your Lobster evolved into another Lobster! Wait. . . what?
But seriously, that's really cool you have a saltwater aquarium. Used to have an eel, but never a lobster. Good for you, man.
Mandalorian31 4 years ago
maybe thats a freshwater lobster?
adityajaya 4 years ago
I wasn't aware there was such a thing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the closest you get to a freshwater lobster is a cray/crawfish, right? And those little buggers don't grow any bigger than three inches, yeah?
Mandalorian31 4 years ago
in pet shops i often see freshwater lobsters, but yes, not this big.
Um i dont know whether they can grow this big or not
adityajaya 4 years ago
You are correct, lobsters are the saltwater variety as a rule. Crayfish, like the one in this vid originate from freshwatered environments and are found in rivers, streams etc. This variety is known as the Red Clawed Crayfish.
JazSung 4 years ago
mine molted before and after she gave birth
PANDAzPETz 4 years ago