Hi, I had a home inspector tell me that one of the homes roof trusses is broken? Is that hard or expensive to replace since I still have not bought the home yet i will appreciate your reply, thank you.
@Carlos135792009 Roof trusses can be repaired as long as you get approval from building department about the method you choose to repair it. Depending on the location/severity and cause of the issue repair may not be that expensive, however if replacement is the only option you are offered to bring the home up to code it could become quite expensive.+++Bob
@mikeissocool19 Not the same problem. You may have issues with trim shrinkage,floor heave,or possibly floor sag, or even trim just not nailed well enough, not floor lift, floor systems do not work that way.+++Bob
I hope you got paid something for having to return to the scene of the crime. I don't think it would be fair for you to have to incur the total expense of the homes flaws unless you knew this failure would happen. - In the future will you change how you attach crown moldings? Will you use this medhod in the original installation? - With this type installation the cabinets would have to be finished first, so if the crown mold moves it won't expose unfinished surface. Crown installed after finish.
@specialks1953 I have worked on jobs since them where truss lift was questioned and options for ways to deal with it have been discussed prior to installation. Live and learn and them improve and move on+++Bob PS this was 3rd job done for this customer with referrals thrown in to boot.Not a losing situation.
@HomeRemodelWorkshop - I am glad we Live and Learn, I just wish it did not cost us so much to do both sometimes. I know you get a lot of repeat customers because you are a rare breed. I work on refrigerators for a major company and am requested for service often. NOTHING LIKE A GOOD WORK ETHIC and Knowledge. Well, honesty is a little ahead.
Do you suppose the linear shrinkage/expansion of the kings post member is what makes the movement so excessive? I don't think the kings post even carries the load of the roof, LOL what a trouble maker.
@longhairedartist I believe it has something to do with more moisture content in the upper exposed part of the trusses versus the buried in insulation bottom rail +++Bob
What's the result a few month or years after this solution? Won't the ceiling start to sag with the weight of the boards and the molding attached tothem?
I have this problem. My drywall tape is being pulled off the ceiling. I want to add MDF crown. Can I glue the MDF to the ceiling instead of adding adding the backing blocks? The problem areas span 70 ft.
If I were going to try it this way I would get some 1by 4 and cut it to the angle of the back side of the crown and glue it to the drywall ceiling first, even if I had to put temporary kicker boards up untill the glue drys. That way you could do it from the bottom,but still have something more significant to nail to.+++ Bob Let me know how it goes if you try it. Thanks
i think it would be a pretty messy job but some glue plus "scissor nailing" should hold for a while. Just angle the two nails through the sheetrock at different angles and it should hold the glue tight.
Truss lift is a powerful thing, too. We have had entire sheets of drywall ripped in half on the inner end wall of a vaulted room. And another occasion lifted the entire wall from the subfloor because the trusses were fastened to the top plate. Solution - sheet the vault wall with plywood and let the trusses float. Float the drywall 2 feet or so with clips, too on the edges.
Hello Bob. I notice that in the summer my bedroom door sticks to the door frame alittle bit, but the winter months, it doesn't. I guess from watching your video, that that is due to truss lift. My question is: what can I do to solve this problem?
Its probably do to expansion and contraction,but not likely truss lift.If your house has settled a bit and the margin on your door was tight to begin with in all likelihood that is the issue.I would wait until it tightens up and then use longer screws on hinge side to pull door to make just enough clearance to close. GOOD luck===Bob
this explains so much! We just bought a house and the inspection found a cracked truss beam. It was repaired. We thought this was unrelated to the wall separation along two joining walls. The separation was along a vertical corner. I'm guessing that the extreme temperature differences caused the beam to crack and the wall to separate 1/4 inch. Phoenix is beautiful but the weather has to be dealt with.
Anybody can come up with a complex solution. A simple one takes ingenuity and imagination, which you have demonstrated to have, once and once again. Very good. Thanks for sharing. Keep them coming.
Hi Bob, thanks for this video. Like the rest of your videos, this one's also very helpful.
I'm thinking of installing crown moldings in the near future, but I haven't decided whether to paint them first before installing, or do the reverse. Upon watching this video, I noticed you said that there were paint lines on the ceiling, so I'm assuming it's a good idea to install the molding first, then paint them afterwards. Please advise, many thanks!
The paint line on ceiling was from the final coat of ceiling paint.Most crown moulding is available pre-primed.I would install pre-primed crown first then caulk and fill nail holes then put on final coat of paint.Hope this helped===Bob
If its a painted crown caulking is not a "dirty word".If its a stained crown and there are nailing points nailed in ceiling press and nail them.Most other ways have to do with hand planer while you are putting your trim up originally===Bob
Hi, I had a home inspector tell me that one of the homes roof trusses is broken? Is that hard or expensive to replace since I still have not bought the home yet i will appreciate your reply, thank you.
Carlos135792009 7 months ago
@Carlos135792009 Roof trusses can be repaired as long as you get approval from building department about the method you choose to repair it. Depending on the location/severity and cause of the issue repair may not be that expensive, however if replacement is the only option you are offered to bring the home up to code it could become quite expensive.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 7 months ago
OK i have the same problem but right above the molding is floor joists not trusses what do i do?
mikeissocool19 11 months ago
@mikeissocool19 Not the same problem. You may have issues with trim shrinkage,floor heave,or possibly floor sag, or even trim just not nailed well enough, not floor lift, floor systems do not work that way.+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 11 months ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop ok thanks
mikeissocool19 11 months ago
I hope you got paid something for having to return to the scene of the crime. I don't think it would be fair for you to have to incur the total expense of the homes flaws unless you knew this failure would happen. - In the future will you change how you attach crown moldings? Will you use this medhod in the original installation? - With this type installation the cabinets would have to be finished first, so if the crown mold moves it won't expose unfinished surface. Crown installed after finish.
specialks1953 11 months ago
@specialks1953 I have worked on jobs since them where truss lift was questioned and options for ways to deal with it have been discussed prior to installation. Live and learn and them improve and move on+++Bob PS this was 3rd job done for this customer with referrals thrown in to boot.Not a losing situation.
HomeRemodelWorkshop 11 months ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop - I am glad we Live and Learn, I just wish it did not cost us so much to do both sometimes. I know you get a lot of repeat customers because you are a rare breed. I work on refrigerators for a major company and am requested for service often. NOTHING LIKE A GOOD WORK ETHIC and Knowledge. Well, honesty is a little ahead.
specialks1953 11 months ago
Do you suppose the linear shrinkage/expansion of the kings post member is what makes the movement so excessive? I don't think the kings post even carries the load of the roof, LOL what a trouble maker.
longhairedartist 1 year ago
@longhairedartist I believe it has something to do with more moisture content in the upper exposed part of the trusses versus the buried in insulation bottom rail +++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
@HomeRemodelWorkshop
Dear Bob Smidt,
What's the result a few month or years after this solution? Won't the ceiling start to sag with the weight of the boards and the molding attached tothem?
Thanks.
signupsigma 1 year ago
@signupsigma Great question! I will call my customer and see if it would be alright to do a follow-up video and we will all see! Thanks+++Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 1 year ago
Aha! I have a crack that keeps coming back in the same spot each winter . . . now I know what is going on. Thanks!
cedartree696 2 years ago
Kudos to you for caring enough to go back and fix what alot of contractors would have considered "not my problem".
dcrawford919 2 years ago
70% of work is repeat ,wonder why?+++ Thanks for post Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
Bob
I have this problem. My drywall tape is being pulled off the ceiling. I want to add MDF crown. Can I glue the MDF to the ceiling instead of adding adding the backing blocks? The problem areas span 70 ft.
Thanks
hmsapolian 2 years ago
If I were going to try it this way I would get some 1by 4 and cut it to the angle of the back side of the crown and glue it to the drywall ceiling first, even if I had to put temporary kicker boards up untill the glue drys. That way you could do it from the bottom,but still have something more significant to nail to.+++ Bob Let me know how it goes if you try it. Thanks
HomeRemodelWorkshop 2 years ago
i think it would be a pretty messy job but some glue plus "scissor nailing" should hold for a while. Just angle the two nails through the sheetrock at different angles and it should hold the glue tight.
emutiny 2 years ago
G8 info and video, ive never heard of this prob etc b4, ta 4 posting :)
dhol7 2 years ago 2
Hey Bob,
Another great tip. Watching your videos will same me a lot of headaches in my project. I wish I would have found your videos sooner. Great stuff.
Warren Seegers
wseegers2 3 years ago
wow- thats good thinking Lincoln...
I learn more from your videos in three minutes than some of the courses I have taken. thanx- Todd
ilovecarrie4329 3 years ago
Nice, real nice.
243WW 3 years ago
Truss lift is a powerful thing, too. We have had entire sheets of drywall ripped in half on the inner end wall of a vaulted room. And another occasion lifted the entire wall from the subfloor because the trusses were fastened to the top plate. Solution - sheet the vault wall with plywood and let the trusses float. Float the drywall 2 feet or so with clips, too on the edges.
trailbusterbrute 3 years ago
Gracias maestro.
carloflo 3 years ago
Hello Bob. I notice that in the summer my bedroom door sticks to the door frame alittle bit, but the winter months, it doesn't. I guess from watching your video, that that is due to truss lift. My question is: what can I do to solve this problem?
masterbombadier 3 years ago
Its probably do to expansion and contraction,but not likely truss lift.If your house has settled a bit and the margin on your door was tight to begin with in all likelihood that is the issue.I would wait until it tightens up and then use longer screws on hinge side to pull door to make just enough clearance to close. GOOD luck===Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 3 years ago
Bob, Great Video!!! I never Knew. Soooo informative!! Great Work!!! True Master Manipulator of Wood.
MasterAlchemist1 3 years ago
this explains so much! We just bought a house and the inspection found a cracked truss beam. It was repaired. We thought this was unrelated to the wall separation along two joining walls. The separation was along a vertical corner. I'm guessing that the extreme temperature differences caused the beam to crack and the wall to separate 1/4 inch. Phoenix is beautiful but the weather has to be dealt with.
freemandiaz 3 years ago
Anybody can come up with a complex solution. A simple one takes ingenuity and imagination, which you have demonstrated to have, once and once again. Very good. Thanks for sharing. Keep them coming.
galtavista 3 years ago
Very impressive. You know your stuff and it was a great idea.
hammerofharpel 3 years ago
Hi Bob, thanks for this video. Like the rest of your videos, this one's also very helpful.
I'm thinking of installing crown moldings in the near future, but I haven't decided whether to paint them first before installing, or do the reverse. Upon watching this video, I noticed you said that there were paint lines on the ceiling, so I'm assuming it's a good idea to install the molding first, then paint them afterwards. Please advise, many thanks!
swt1212 3 years ago
The paint line on ceiling was from the final coat of ceiling paint.Most crown moulding is available pre-primed.I would install pre-primed crown first then caulk and fill nail holes then put on final coat of paint.Hope this helped===Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 3 years ago
You are a true craftman that really care about the job you do. Most just wouldn't care.
Do you have any tricks for an un even ceiling. I have gaps at diffrent points of the crown molding.
wbradd3797 3 years ago
If its a painted crown caulking is not a "dirty word".If its a stained crown and there are nailing points nailed in ceiling press and nail them.Most other ways have to do with hand planer while you are putting your trim up originally===Bob
HomeRemodelWorkshop 3 years ago