Who was better, Bonds or Ruth? Mark Madden, Jon Burton and Jack Korpela debate

[mahagga]

The athletes are so far superior today it's not funny.Bonds would hit 110 homers with 200 rbi's and bat .440 in the 20's.

[mahagga]

Fact  for you guys...Ty Cobb was widely considered a superior player to Ruth in his day.Ruth took advantage of a juiced up ball and was a one trick pony.Pitchers benefit as much or more than hitters ,see Roger Clemens on the roids.washed up at 26 ,then all of a sudden best right handed pitcher ever.

[mahagga]

Barry Bonds was the most feared greatest hitter ever for a period of 6 to 7 years

[shmoriy]

Steroids doesnt make you a better hitter?????? What a fucking dumbass

[mahagga]

@shmoriy I wouldn't argue it don't help your power but I think it might be even more effective for a cheating pitcher like Clemens is suspected .He was washed up at 26 then all of a sudden he is the best pitcher in the game popping up with the Blue Jays.

[mahagga]

Babe Ruth played with only half or less than half of the best players ,segregation remember.

[dbreiden83080]

@mahagga

Babe dominates in any era of baseball. The weak pitching today he'd hit 75 a season..

[mahagga]

@dbreiden83080 most of the good players in the world were excluded from participation so that argument holds no water.Didn't you notice everybody was white?

[justinhighest]

I have no doubt there were steroids in EVER era, so the whole 'steroid' issue is pointless to argue, especially when the biggest sport that juices is cycling, filled with a bunch of skinny guys yo...

[sloppiejoe87]

ken griffey jr is the best all around player since willie mays hands down!

[mgrealdeals]

BARRY BONDS THE GREATEST CHEATER EVER. STEROIDS DO MAKE YOU A BETTER HITTER DUMBASS. JON BURTON IS USING HIMSELF....AND HIS BALLS ARE SHRINKING ALONG WITH HIS BRAIN.

[GhostDistortion]

First off babe Ruth was the total package winning games from the mound as well. If he hadn't started out as an accomplished pitcher he would have hit about 1000 homeruns and Barry is a steroid head that ran and hid like the coward he is when the steroid trials were going on. I have no respect for him.

[GMT1221]

Are you fucking kidding me? Either they're mental, or they're just fucking idiots who don't know what they're talking about.

[mikallink]

babe ruth WITHOUT steroids STILL has the highest sluggin %!suck on that racist bonds lovers

[deadhardy]

@mikallink

babe ruth faced lesser competition.....no blacks or hispanics.....pitchers during ruth's day could not survive in majors during the present day

[mikallink]

@deadhardy 1st off hispanic is not a race!there are white ones in Spain,Black ones in cuba and the dominican republic and brown ones eveywhere other than spain!2nd if you want to get racial let's talk football there has NEVER been a truly great black qb.Why QB's??cuz they throw just like a pitcher and the greatest pitchers of today and the 80's70's etc.who playe(d) against blacks were all white!randy johnson,greg maddux,tom seaver and whoever else!

[sloppiejoe87]

@deadhardy Walter Johnson,Christy Mathewson,Cy Young???? and they would do good they would adjust to todays game

[deadhardy]

@sloppiejoe87

if you transplanted them in todays game as they were...they wouldn't be nearly as good...pitchers today are better trained, more fit, and throw harder. In addition, parks are smaller than they were in the days of Johnson, Mathewson, and Young.

[keagleman21]

Mark Madden acts like he's on too many steroids.

Who hired this turkey? He's a moron of the first order.

[im99mining]

Yeah, and if babe ruth used steroids he's hit over 1,000 homers.

[deadhardy]

@im99mining

bath ruth worked out on hotdogs and beer....steroids wouldn't have done shit (he didn't even train like athletes do today

[Veomunn]

"Smaller ball parts"

You mean smaller balls because of the steroids?

[thedude19766]

fat mark madden

[oriclepro09]

If you ever see Mark Madden out in public, he sits there, by himself, like the fat POS that he is.

[turuu214]

i dont watch baseball but even i know barry bonds is a cheater and babe ruth is far better than bonds or any other players in this "era". Might as well cancel the 715 number after hes been caught cheating like how reggie was taken away his heisman not that its same situation.

[xboxplaya420]

fuck bonds steroid fucking faggot

[Starrynova]

fuck barry bonds and fuck the bonds ass kissers in this video

[kingslegion1]

Barry was walked more than Ruth and Aaron combined... COMBINED!!

[georgevida1]

3 of the 4 guys in the video are fools! the white guy on the end knows his stuff the rest need to be piston whiped with a desert eagle .50

[cakedude77]

These guys r fucking nuts! Babe is babe u can't compare him! They need shot.

[Roachross2]

Babe was just so ahead of his time Barry would have to have like a 1000 homeruns to destroy the game the way the Babe did.. No one dominated like the Babe Im only 25 but went to the called shot game and you could just see the not really fear in the pitchers eyes when the Babe called it but more like helplesness.

[johnsontlast]

typical ignorance of the so called sports media that know nothing of the history of the sports they pontificate upon....Really? Compare the domination of Ruth....nobody could touch him in his era. He thoroughly dominated. Ruth was hitting more than twice as many home runs as the runner-up through more than half his career. He out homered teams. Bonds was barely beating out other steroid enhanced players...

[GilHodgesFan]

Barry Bonds would never have been able to touch Babe Ruth's stats if he hadn't been using steroids. Players like Ruth, Aaron, all the greats of yesteryear were great using their own sheer strength, not enhancement drugs!

[sydgrimes]

barry bonds is the greatest player/villian is baseball history!

[captainkidd10]

barry bonds is the best ever. come on someone else could hit 1,000 homeruns and babe ruth would still be the best to all you people who think nobody could ever be better than babe ruth just cause he's babe ruth. you people are retarded

[shempam]

Barry Bonds is good but for me Babe is the greatest he only had a disease! If babe Ruth had no disease maybe the home run of him will be not just 714 its gonna be 800 or 900+++!!!!! And Babe was from the Yankees which is popular in around the world because of Babe Ruth see!

[zzwop77]

Im sorry but the Babe is an icon and no one will ever be better than him.Besides that, Babe did it without steroids, as a matter of fact, if he had took care of himself he probably would have hit 8 or 9hundred. lol

[mastag10]

Hm, so Ruth has a higher career BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, HR/ab ratio, wOBA, wRC, and wRAA, and Bonds is better? And doesn't the fat guy realize prior to 1931 once a player won their first MVP Award, they couldn't win another one for the rest of their career? Why are people like given podiums to discuss something they don't understand, at least do your homework big guy.

[TheT4xid3rmist]

@mastag10 He only loves Barry Bonds because Pittsburgh hates him.

[TheRobert611]

I cant stand barry bonds. He is a bumb. He took steroids. He is a cheater. It was ovious that Bonds took roids. His head got a bigger head and body. Like they said Ruth also pitched. Steroids do help people hit. So it dosnt matter because Bonds will never get into the hall of fame. Babe Ruth was the best. He pitched and hit. Aaron was also better. Bonds is full of crap that he didnt take roids. Plus back in the day the stadiums were a lot bigger. Hands down Ruth is the best not one of the best.

[lunarsedge]

Ruth was going against crappy pitching, Bonds is in a different time when pitching wasn't just a fast ball and a curve ball. If Bonds got a fast ball 50 percent of the time he would have over a 1,000 homeruns you idiots.

[miguelhenriquezg1977]

Bonds, sonofabitch, screw you and your drugs induced homeruns

[harleymontana]

o and hack open bonds bat there probilley corked

[harleymontana]

roid mean more mucel which means stronger which means when ball hit ball go faster duuh. what else r roids for?o and left or not babe hit lefty

[sexychrisb]

Like always, the Ginnie is the only one making sense. Pittsburgh sucks.

[bigjcc526]

Babe Ruth played in ballparks with 450-480 ft deep and12-20 ft high centerfield fences and 400-420 ft power alleys with high fences.If he played in todays band boxes he'd hit 900 HR's...WITHOUT steroids. Greatest HR hiiter ever,no comparison. Foxx was 2nd,Aaron 3rd

[jhopp1234]

Exactly, and he played the beginning of his career in the DEAD BALL era where it was damn near impossible to hit homeruns. Sorry Mark Madden, Babe Ruth is the greatest ever.

[PLANBELA]

if babe ruth took steroids he would have hit over 900 homeruns in any era. also he wasnt a chocker like barry bonds was. just cause he played in 7 good playoff and world series games., what about the other 50 and couldnt throw sid bream out. mark madden and his fat ass could have thrown sid bream out. madden is a mark and always has been

[jhopp1234]

Bonds was a complete asshole too. Ruth > Bonds.

[byronairfun]

Steroid or not Bond should go to the Hall just like Pete Rose should. We have to look at the fact Steroid have been in baseball since there creation some player in the Hof proble got there because of steroid. Ruth is the better player not because he play with better pitcher or in bigger ball park, or have more HR in fewer AB, but because he brought baseball back after the black sox, the game was dead. Ruth save baseball. Bond and every player then & now should line up and kiss his ass.

[Joberooni]

retarrd

[BIGRED224FOREVER]

he sounds like lou albano talking ........go get a rubber band put it around your head captain lou madden.

[BIGRED224FOREVER]

your a jackass and you sound ignorant talking about melting statues!

[RELubber]

Gotta love how the spooks go right for color in making their choice.

Bonds couldn't hold Ruth's jockstrap.

Why is it when the blacks go for blacks it isn't racism?? Double standard bullshit.

[PLANBELA]

exactly right. michael irvin said on espn one time that the only reason ppl and the media like peyton manning is because he is white and said he was overrated. rush said mcnabb was overrated cause the media wanted to see a black qb do well and was called a racist. now the comment was retarded since great qbs that are black like williams moon cunninham have played but yes a double standard

[sexychrisb]

Yeah, I was totally expecting the monkey to pick Barry.

[lilmoje512]

barry did cheat but Babe played in an era when baseball wasnt even baseball. blacks and latinos were not allowed to play and Ruth would be an average if even a major leaguer. Barry is more of an athletic player.

[halbie71]

No question about it.....The Babe is better!!!! Are these guys stupid??????

[ant240]

everyone should keep in mind that Babe Ruth only had about 8500 at bats with 714hrs.barry the cheater had steroids and about 11000 at bats.even hank aaron who was totally legit.and whom i have the utmost respect for had 12500 at bats and 755 hrs. do the math and tell me who was the best.

[craigles25]

That's always my argument. Ruth, of course.

[ChargedTutorials]

Ruth hit 450 foot shots and thEY WERE FLY OUTS!!!!

YOU IDIOTS

Read "the year babe ruth hits 104 home runs"

by bill jenkinson

THE FACTS ARE UNDENIABLE

[Freestylez5]

Shit dudes. Different eras has different styles of baseball. Barry Bonds eat pieces of shit while Babe Ruth has its own power. Hell shit, Barry Bonds is a drug addict so he should be called a cheater for god sake. Babe Ruth has power in pitching and in batting. He was famous for the Called Shot. You can see that Babe Ruth travelled from Boston to Yankees. Barry Bonds? He travels nowhere but only travel to cheating and drugs.

Barry can kiss my ass all he wants to as Babe Ruth is the greatest.

[plato2788]

Jack Korpela is the only guy on here talking any sense...Ruth will never be passed in greatness, Bonds is a cheating p.o.s, who by the way demands the smallest strike zone in the history of the game. Ruth piched for 6 years, winning 94 games! if he hadn't been pitching all those years, he'd prolly be near 1000 home runs. go die bonds, him and his ego are enough to make me puke, and it leaves a bad image for baseball in general

[FreedInsanity]

Babe Ruth is the greatest in history because he changed the sport's foundation from a speed game to a power struggle. He also brought new found popularity to the game, and most assuredly the Yankees.

If modern rules were in effect during Ruth's 1921 season (foul pole indicating a home run instead of a ground-rule double, ect.) he would have hit 104 home runs.

He also holds more records still untouched to this day, and not a single perjury charge or indictment on his name, unlike bonds.

[XxEMOxXxAMBERxX]

if bonds was white they would have cruisified him

[29313330]

hank aaron had over 2500 more at bats than ruth. and so did steriod man. look up home run %.. babe ruth has the highest home run prcentage of all time. also has the famous called shot.. and was te first to ever hit a homer out of mot ball parks. bonds and and aaron never got 60 homers in 60 games either.. ruth was also a great pitcher.. babe also did everthing on hotdogs and beer. not roids

[studlynesss]

Barry Bonds is a cheating piece of shit.

[kyugokun]

What the ... are you KIDDING me? Babe Ruth outhomered every other TEAM in 1920. For Bonds to dominate in that way he would have had to hit over 200 homers in a year. And I didn't see Bonds hit .342, pitch zeroes in the World Series nor beat Ruth without the benefit of almost 1000 more at bats. Bonds was a great ballpayer (steroids or not) maybe one of the Top 15 of All Time, but as goos as the Babe ... no way.

[TRMac50]

babe ruth and hank aaron are the real deal--barry bonds* is a classless cheating bitch who has spat on the record books and baseball as a whole

[MattyGtheMusician]

these people are fucking rediculous. i cant even believe what im hearing. dumbasses. the babe is untouchable and bonds is a doosh

[GeorgeWashingtonX]

Matty, good call.Ruth was a dominant pitcher before he was moved to the outfield, so he was both a dominant hitter & pitcher. very unique feat. Before Ruth came to NY, the Yankees were a nothing franchise, his arrival turned that franchise around.. Ruth has 7 World Series, Bonds never delivered 1 World championship, Ruth hit more HRs in a season than entire teams did. and there is NO 'House that Bonds built'. I dont care if Bonds used steroids or not, there is no comparison Ruth is the greatest

[lildood24]

@MattyGtheMusician now first of all know one is a doosh and second of all the babe is touchable and 3rd there both the best and there both untouchable.

[UTUBETOOKMYNAME]

it does not suprise me that mark madden would take a cheater over a real man of skill... for fucks sake hes a steeler fan and they are all about cheating (super bowl XL). FUCK OFF MARK MADDEN, YOU FAT PIECE OF SHIT.

[balls87920]

YOU GUYS ARE STUPID!!!

Here is sum stuff for you to talk about:

!in babe ruths era: There were no steroids... The fields were bigger... There was less games in his era too..

babe ruth was and IS the greatest there is....

[wwepieman]

@balls87920 Ya but Babe got to play before black people were allowed to play, lol jk 

[painlessguy]

Steroids will not make you a better hitter. They will not enhance your ability to get the barrel on the ball,they do though is give you the ability to put more energy behind the barrel. Those shots from bonds clearing the fence barely, would he have got them w/o the roids. There maybe better players that succeed in passing the babe's numbers, but noone will ever pass what he did for the game of baseball in the 20's. Hes the ultimate legend. If it tells you anything more ppl know babe than Hank.

[painlessguy]

You cant really compare the two. From the advancements in technology of the equipment, and training. If you add up all their stats, Barry comes up short compared to Babe. He was a pretty good pitcher and an AWESOME hitter. You look at the fact that the babe really didnt take care of hisself, smoking and drinking, and not to mention his training regimen is nothing compared to todays players. What Babe did was pretty much just his raw talent with no aids of supplements, trainings or roids.

[radio187]

Babe Ruth, the Greatest of All Time, words of this ugly fat bastard notwithstanding. Babe never used roids, Babe was a great pitcher in addition to being a BETTER HITTER THAN BONDS.

"Steroids don't make you a better hitter." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I hit 400 home runs if you give me Winstrol.

FUCK ALL THESE DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BASEBALL.

[cabose9999]

the babe also had less games in a season also..

[ij911]

Barry should be stripped of every MVP, silver slugger, and batting title. He's the same as Pete Rose. Wipe out his records. Don't tell me Barry Bonds is better. Babe batted .342. Barry is a hair over .300. The Bambino played at Yankee Stadium with huge dimension in CF. He batted against the spitball. So don't tell me Babe couldn't hit the split finger or the slider. Who has the higher career slugging mark? Who played in the dead ball era? Babe Ruth! Babe Ruth saved the game in 1920!

[kevinGman69]

RIP BABE RUTH...I agree

[jre52301]

Mark Madden use to work for WCW

[radio187]

Melt down Honus Wagner. Right. Hey, why don't we just burn every crucifix in every Catholic Church.

[Neilius27]

Nice video Jacko!!

[anjet148]

nobody is better then the babe! if he wasn;t a picture he could probally hit more home runs then hank aaron ever could

[samyro112]

ahahahah hell noo babe ruth is nooo the best he´s didn´t play with black ppl!!

[anjet148]

nobody is better then the babe! if he wasn;t a picture he could probally hit more home runs then hank aaron ever could

[EarleYetter]

Uh oh....somebody thinks he's Captain Lou Albano...