the steam press to go out and make it run. But you don't have to lose the "distilled" water. You just have to condense it inside of a heat exchanger or radiator and, then, to invest a small part of the produced energy to introduce it inside of the presurized tank. 30 liters of steam going out represents 18mililiters of condensed water going back in.... To have energy during night you can compress air into a second tank during the day and, then, use this compressed air during the night...
what if you mounted the blowoff to a anti backflow valve and ran it back into your pressure tank? This way you would recycle your water and have to replenish your tank less often? or not at all?
@MenTaLLyMenTaL solar panels are more expensive, more sensitive, require more space, and care (cleaning up to maintain maximun performance), and gradually they will start to lose performance as they get older, however solar panels have no moving components which means that they are less likely to fail due to friction, and they convert directly solar energy to electric vs thermical-> kinetic-> electric, i dont know, i like the steam engine idea more
@MenTaLLyMenTaL well the steam engine itself is way less efficient requiring heat to boil the water (even it is by burning coal to provide that heat) before it even starts producing steam, BUT as i said it is thermical energy, so if you could focus the sun light in a very small area you have heat = free solution to your problem, while solar panels dont work that way and are VERY expensive, also they require extrra equipment to use that power, this is all i know as i am not an expert
Interesting if someone could use a large Black Thermo Paint tank to heat up large amounts of water. Then at night feed the water into boilers for Turbines. This would save 80% or more of energy costs. If the water used was Seawater it would also give you free desalinated water for agriculture.
Dan - Ref your pipe boiler. Have you done any experiments on a method to keep a replinishment feed supply of wather to the pipe as the steam boils off? Thanks: larry H. GA
You would have to use a cooling tower or some other heat exchanger and a return pump like they use in a nuclear power plant. The question is does his big magnifying glass harness enough power for the pump because it has to work against the steam pressure and have enough power left for sale. Nuclear power or coal plants that use steem have enough energy to overcome this barier. You would have to harness allot more solar power to achieve the same goal.
You can always add more "magnifying glasses". (they are actually parabolic lenses)
You can even add them at different angles so some are always working through out the day.
This shows a basic idea that works on a small scale. A bigger boiler, a bigger engine or 2 or 3 and an alternator or 2 or 3 seems possible to me.
I envision an larger boiler from a hot water tank or a capped 24 inch pipe with 3 or more outlets coming out if it. Break out the welding machine.....
Cannot run out of water, it can use gray vs fresh or sea water. Also re-condensed for many cycle. The natural evaporation from a large lake is 10x what a power plant would use. Also keep in mind COAL FIRE plants are STEAM turbine operations. This would replace the coal, steam the same.
Thermal power plants condense thus recycle there steam water.
And running salt or Grey water through a boiler is going to concentrate the impurity into the boiler, but I guess on the plus side is you get fresh clean water out of the engine.
Even nuclear plants use steam engines to make electricity. The only difference is in the fuel after all. It doesn't look like such a big progress, versus solar that doesn't burn anything before the steam is created.
I love these experiments. I felt depressed today and now I feel better.
@gmspeedfreak ya bud don't try and say that we will run out of water because if you boil grey water you can drink it and plus dan knows alot more about this than you so i'd just stop while your ahead
@gmspeedfreak also water unlike petrol products doesn't burn away. the steam dissipates and recondenses in the air and will continue in a cycle. once petrol is burned it is gone.
Is this steam generate enough pressure to drive a Tesla turbine? I has seen someone used a pressure cooker to drive Tesla turbine. Just wonder sunlight + pressure cooker + Tesla turbine to generate electricity making any sense. Thanks for the demo. Very educational.
It still wont blow up,although it may take off like a rocket LOLMetal pipe like he is using can handle tremendous amounts of pressure.Only the weakest link would fail,most likely the connector not the pipe.Even if that happened there would only be a big blast of steam for a very short duration in time.
Nice video!. Have you ever tried using boiler sight glass tubing? Its rated for high temp and pressure. You would be heating the water directly with the sun instead of heating the pipe to heat the water. Or maybe a small tank with a high pressure/temp sight glass window in it.
C'mon people dont be so freakin negative. the purpose of this is to show that simple boilers are possible, and then be put to good use. Now it is up to the viewer to perfect the machine and adapt it to their own uses.
WOW! we have saved the world. Look a giant magnification lens powers a tiny steam engine that powers nothing. To power a city we'll need, uhhhhh, ten million lenses. perfect.
We don't necessarily need to build a system that powers a city, just enough to power a home. From what I hear there are systems that do that with 10 square meters of space for about 6K-8K... oh yeah, and hot water is a by product.
Thay makes sence I guess. I would prefer a giant caterpillar diesel engine to power my home. And I dont mean one of them new "Green" homo diesel engine. Im talking an old 70's engine that pukes nothing but black smoke. WHy you ask? Because its cool.
what's really cool about producing electricity and hot water with these is to heat and cool the home . so that we can use the gasoline and diesel to propel our vehicles
i guess that; to get real usable power, we'll have to keep burning fossil fuels. Doesn't look like we're anywhere close to powering a goods delivery truck on anything but stinky diesel. Tiny midget style Euro cars might get to the point where they're electric, but anything bigger will require a fossil fuel burning, exhaust spewing, piston pumping, valve clattering, pollution machine.
This shows the power of the sun, but considering the energy on a good day is approx 1.25 KW per sqare meter. The amount of enegy extracted to turm a small fly wheel seems a little inefficent in this experiment, but fun all the same.
A political leader was ask about solor power at a press conferance,he was unprepared on the subject so he said" WELL SOLAR POWER IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVER NIGHT" LOL
at some point in time, I know one of the major southwestern railroads experimented with using solar reflectors ( in conjunction with the firebox ) to aid in heating locomotive boilers. I don't recall if it was successful or not, but it obviously never became standard.
Sorry to say, at the moment, I don't (the source only lightly touches on it). but I believe it was either the Santa fe or Southern Pacific who tried it.
i have a similar idea only i want it to provide power,heat and hot water to my house. no need to produce heat via lenses no electricity just need a bit of land for experimenting on.
They work the same so long as there is unfiltered sunlight. Outside temperature only affects the heat COLLECTED to a small degree due to leaching and has no effect on the maximum heat PRODUCED by the beam. If you are in extreme cold/wind partial insulation would help greatly.
Hey have you ever considered using an Old Huge Satellite dish as a Solar Collector?
JustinJJHCS1 3 weeks ago
the steam press to go out and make it run. But you don't have to lose the "distilled" water. You just have to condense it inside of a heat exchanger or radiator and, then, to invest a small part of the produced energy to introduce it inside of the presurized tank. 30 liters of steam going out represents 18mililiters of condensed water going back in.... To have energy during night you can compress air into a second tank during the day and, then, use this compressed air during the night...
leogagliardigmail 6 months ago
what if you mounted the blowoff to a anti backflow valve and ran it back into your pressure tank? This way you would recycle your water and have to replenish your tank less often? or not at all?
wingnutsandbolts 8 months ago
very nice, but how much did the huge len cost you?
panoulis20 11 months ago
How will the efficiency of this setup to coupled to a generator to produce electricity compare with that of solar panels?
MenTaLLyMenTaL 11 months ago
@MenTaLLyMenTaL solar panels are more expensive, more sensitive, require more space, and care (cleaning up to maintain maximun performance), and gradually they will start to lose performance as they get older, however solar panels have no moving components which means that they are less likely to fail due to friction, and they convert directly solar energy to electric vs thermical-> kinetic-> electric, i dont know, i like the steam engine idea more
panoulis20 11 months ago
@panoulis20
So due to longer energy conversion chain of this setup, its probably less efficient than solar panels?
MenTaLLyMenTaL 11 months ago
@MenTaLLyMenTaL well the steam engine itself is way less efficient requiring heat to boil the water (even it is by burning coal to provide that heat) before it even starts producing steam, BUT as i said it is thermical energy, so if you could focus the sun light in a very small area you have heat = free solution to your problem, while solar panels dont work that way and are VERY expensive, also they require extrra equipment to use that power, this is all i know as i am not an expert
panoulis20 11 months ago
cCan you put a load on it? How much tork will it do?
SuperStan105 1 year ago
What is the boiler made of? It looks like galvanized pipe?
ilikepie9519 1 year ago
I was wondering, what did you use for the boiler? It looks like galvanized pipe.
ilikepie9519 1 year ago
this was pretty cool, but 1 question, dosent u have to move tha class? since the sun is moving???
nameless527 1 year ago
Interesting if someone could use a large Black Thermo Paint tank to heat up large amounts of water. Then at night feed the water into boilers for Turbines. This would save 80% or more of energy costs. If the water used was Seawater it would also give you free desalinated water for agriculture.
John1576able 1 year ago
could you use a mirror array to focus even more light on to a smaller lens like one from an overhead and end up with the same result
aForkandaSpoon 1 year ago
I say put some magnest on that flywheel and some coils around it and see if you can make power!
NewPyroLabs 1 year ago
hey you are a pretty good cameraman!! your videos are great
yoyo8668 1 year ago
Do you have to write everything with caps lock on?
MrKaddan 1 year ago
boiler should be painted black for more efficiency.
overall It is a nice job.
dobrent 1 year ago
Dan - Ref your pipe boiler. Have you done any experiments on a method to keep a replinishment feed supply of wather to the pipe as the steam boils off? Thanks: larry H. GA
sunmonleh 2 years ago
Hi Larry,
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GREENPOWERSCIENCE 2 years ago
You would have to use a cooling tower or some other heat exchanger and a return pump like they use in a nuclear power plant. The question is does his big magnifying glass harness enough power for the pump because it has to work against the steam pressure and have enough power left for sale. Nuclear power or coal plants that use steem have enough energy to overcome this barier. You would have to harness allot more solar power to achieve the same goal.
Neillil411 2 years ago
@Neillil411
You can always add more "magnifying glasses". (they are actually parabolic lenses)
You can even add them at different angles so some are always working through out the day.
This shows a basic idea that works on a small scale. A bigger boiler, a bigger engine or 2 or 3 and an alternator or 2 or 3 seems possible to me.
I envision an larger boiler from a hot water tank or a capped 24 inch pipe with 3 or more outlets coming out if it. Break out the welding machine.....
contactss65 1 year ago
Oh a simple condenser will be suffice for a home sized unit. Cooling tower lol....
A condenser made from copper pipe coiled and run through cool water or air will allow the steam to cool off and become liquid again.
contactss65 1 year ago
EXCELLENT
lodemerisback 2 years ago
steam requires water, which requires enough condensation to get water .
so how do we know that by using a lot of water is not going to make us not run out of water or the water price to go up too high?
petroleums and oils are still have to be used to make plastic and rubber componentry
gmspeedfreak 2 years ago
Cannot run out of water, it can use gray vs fresh or sea water. Also re-condensed for many cycle. The natural evaporation from a large lake is 10x what a power plant would use. Also keep in mind COAL FIRE plants are STEAM turbine operations. This would replace the coal, steam the same.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 2 years ago 2
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE
Thermal power plants condense thus recycle there steam water.
And running salt or Grey water through a boiler is going to concentrate the impurity into the boiler, but I guess on the plus side is you get fresh clean water out of the engine.
leaderofearth 1 year ago
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Khamomil 1 year ago
@GREENPOWERSCIENCE
Even nuclear plants use steam engines to make electricity. The only difference is in the fuel after all. It doesn't look like such a big progress, versus solar that doesn't burn anything before the steam is created.
I love these experiments. I felt depressed today and now I feel better.
Khamomil 1 year ago
@Khamomil lol
panoulis20 11 months ago
@gmspeedfreak it recycles unlike oil
themadscientest 1 year ago
@gmspeedfreak lol run out of water, somone is an arrr tard....
Schultz98 1 year ago
@gmspeedfreak ya bud don't try and say that we will run out of water because if you boil grey water you can drink it and plus dan knows alot more about this than you so i'd just stop while your ahead
protectoroffaith 1 year ago
@gmspeedfreak Because water falls from the sky regularly...
NewPyroLabs 1 year ago
@gmspeedfreak also water unlike petrol products doesn't burn away. the steam dissipates and recondenses in the air and will continue in a cycle. once petrol is burned it is gone.
avelloch 1 year ago
@gmspeedfreak Yeah, and, oh my god, the oceans are evaporating. Please tell us you weren't serious. Please.
OregonDARRYL 1 year ago
nice job , was wondering if it would work better with aluminim or copper pipe or maybe someting black
MrSPRYFIELD 2 years ago
Is this steam generate enough pressure to drive a Tesla turbine? I has seen someone used a pressure cooker to drive Tesla turbine. Just wonder sunlight + pressure cooker + Tesla turbine to generate electricity making any sense. Thanks for the demo. Very educational.
beancube2008 2 years ago
nuttyape..learn to spell, then we might be able to understand you.
saradawn6 2 years ago
how to make it
Patrick730 2 years ago
The age of steam is about to have a second dawn!
MJoubes 2 years ago
Nice!
rayunseitig 2 years ago
this is such a good idear.
is it not possible (curios) to ass another motor to the exaugst on the currant motor
i.e stick a pipe on the steam being released onto another motor thus doubling the ouput..?
nuttyape 2 years ago
nuttyape,
Your idea is being used in steam engines.
I used to work a s a volunteer on a steam tug boat.
The engine has three cylinders, that use all the initial steam.
The third cylinder, with the biggest diametre is also helped with a condensor that pulled the cylinder down with vacuum power.
The pressure and the amount of steam should be sufficient for a two- or three cylinder application.
321ozzy 2 years ago 2
oh well thats cool.
was just away with the clouds to be hounest
nuttyape 2 years ago
I like the idea but what you got there is a pipe bomb waiting to go off
ridgetownpimp 2 years ago
As long as there is a way for the steam to escape there can be no explosion.
HiFiman4u 2 years ago
thats true but if there is more steem than can escape than your in for a big boom!!
I didnt see any safty valve, it looks like the only escape is if the engine is running and that will have a limit to how much steem it can let off.
ridgetownpimp 2 years ago
It still wont blow up,although it may take off like a rocket LOLMetal pipe like he is using can handle tremendous amounts of pressure.Only the weakest link would fail,most likely the connector not the pipe.Even if that happened there would only be a big blast of steam for a very short duration in time.
HiFiman4u 2 years ago 2
Add a pressure relief valve from a water heater, they're less than $20.
limegreendream67 2 years ago
Nice video!. Have you ever tried using boiler sight glass tubing? Its rated for high temp and pressure. You would be heating the water directly with the sun instead of heating the pipe to heat the water. Or maybe a small tank with a high pressure/temp sight glass window in it.
bentnorton 2 years ago
C'mon people dont be so freakin negative. the purpose of this is to show that simple boilers are possible, and then be put to good use. Now it is up to the viewer to perfect the machine and adapt it to their own uses.
egschips 2 years ago
This guy it's very nice with his ideas, very good. But I want to see the idea working, producing 60% of electricity from the sun !!!!!!
jerryaltman 2 years ago
WOW! we have saved the world. Look a giant magnification lens powers a tiny steam engine that powers nothing. To power a city we'll need, uhhhhh, ten million lenses. perfect.
heatherandpaul2 2 years ago
We don't necessarily need to build a system that powers a city, just enough to power a home. From what I hear there are systems that do that with 10 square meters of space for about 6K-8K... oh yeah, and hot water is a by product.
daspifster 2 years ago
Thay makes sence I guess. I would prefer a giant caterpillar diesel engine to power my home. And I dont mean one of them new "Green" homo diesel engine. Im talking an old 70's engine that pukes nothing but black smoke. WHy you ask? Because its cool.
heatherandpaul2 2 years ago
what's really cool about producing electricity and hot water with these is to heat and cool the home . so that we can use the gasoline and diesel to propel our vehicles
circusboy90210 2 years ago
not only is hot water a by product but you can also get distilled water as well.
HiFiman4u 2 years ago
How much power does that little engine have do you think? enough to power an electric motor to charge a battery??
Carcrazydude5432 2 years ago
i guess that; to get real usable power, we'll have to keep burning fossil fuels. Doesn't look like we're anywhere close to powering a goods delivery truck on anything but stinky diesel. Tiny midget style Euro cars might get to the point where they're electric, but anything bigger will require a fossil fuel burning, exhaust spewing, piston pumping, valve clattering, pollution machine.
senorhindenburg 2 years ago
Electric Ford Transit Van (1 year off), and the large solar Stirling engines already in use in California. That is real usable power.
disbsam333 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
how about you shut the fuck up and do the world a favor and shoot yourself
polarbear666666 2 years ago
dude where did you get that huuuuge magnifying glass???
Ryumaru1 3 years ago
fresnel lens ebay :)
indiasrainbow 3 years ago
This shows the power of the sun, but considering the energy on a good day is approx 1.25 KW per sqare meter. The amount of enegy extracted to turm a small fly wheel seems a little inefficent in this experiment, but fun all the same.
Mrwarmy 3 years ago
where can I get a steam engine to experiment with?
rockme5150 3 years ago
go to ebay and type "MAMOD" there is usually a half dozen or so.....
trex65ghia 3 years ago
A political leader was ask about solor power at a press conferance,he was unprepared on the subject so he said" WELL SOLAR POWER IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVER NIGHT" LOL
zeno57 3 years ago 4
just wandering how hot was it outside when you did this?
nerdyapple 3 years ago
why not use biogas to make steam? you can have turd-powered appliances!!!
mumpump 3 years ago
at some point in time, I know one of the major southwestern railroads experimented with using solar reflectors ( in conjunction with the firebox ) to aid in heating locomotive boilers. I don't recall if it was successful or not, but it obviously never became standard.
SR722 3 years ago
That sounds neat. If you find more information, please let me know. Thank You.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 3 years ago
Sorry to say, at the moment, I don't (the source only lightly touches on it). but I believe it was either the Santa fe or Southern Pacific who tried it.
SR722 3 years ago
i have a similar idea only i want it to provide power,heat and hot water to my house. no need to produce heat via lenses no electricity just need a bit of land for experimenting on.
560287144602817 3 years ago
A common problem...
LocustsOfSteel 3 years ago
youve solved the oil problem in a couple of hours
560287144602817 3 years ago
Wow! I bet that thing could power a 10 Watt light bulb!
A lens that size is capable of a great deal more. Postings like this make solar energy look stupid!
jollivier 3 years ago
Far from making solar energy "look stupid" as you put it, postings like this inspire (some) people to try things for themselves.
I have just bought 8 fresnel lenses to try and expand on this idea. I'll post the results.
I'm sure we will all look forward to your contribution jolivier.
geordipom 3 years ago 7
That's awesome. Why the heck don't we all have those powering our houses. Hopefully soon.
There is one company bringing this green technology to the market on a large scale. Search for Youtube video 4h9FLvj2ZJM
haloluvver 3 years ago
Im from FL but now I live in NY. Your videos are very helpfull. how do these work in the winter months?
tbfl72 3 years ago
Thank You for the comment:-)
They work the same so long as there is unfiltered sunlight. Outside temperature only affects the heat COLLECTED to a small degree due to leaching and has no effect on the maximum heat PRODUCED by the beam. If you are in extreme cold/wind partial insulation would help greatly.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 3 years ago
Next step, add some gears and attach a motor or small alternator of some kind, then read the volts and watts that it can put out.
LocustsOfSteel 3 years ago
Whats next a fresnel lens solar powered steam car?
When's the next 'How to make' video in the series?
Odziz 3 years ago
HI Odziz,
I am working on a few right now. Hopefully by this week. Your channel is getting really cool!!!!!!
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 3 years ago
would the lens need adjusting through out the day because the position of the sun in the sky?
MrPlug 3 years ago
Yes, Florida in the summer is tough as the sun travels in an arch.
GREENPOWERSCIENCE 3 years ago
quite interesting in it's simplicity
roidroid 3 years ago
Nice, you've got it really revved up this time and no bottle to break. I like the quick connection too.
UKBB 3 years ago