Barry Lyndon is probably Kubrick's last true masterpiece. It would be unbearably "slow" by today's standards, but those images that Kubrick lingers on are cinematic paintings to those of us who appreciate great films. The soundtrack is stunning. Kubrick wa a master of his craft.
On n'aime pas cette musique : Elle appartient à une époque, l'instrumentalisation est triste, quelque peu austère, impression "institutionnelle" derrière, provoque beaucoup des remouds à l'esprit.
On aime cette musique : Le contexte où on la découvre change radicalement le sens ( comme pour le film où elle a été utilisée ), qu'elle a été utilisée pour rendre hommage à une personne brave, parce qu'elle évoque des sentiments appréciés. J'aurais tendance à ne pas aimer la musique cependant.
Please note that contemporary classical music is excluded from this list. For instance, John Williams or Ennio Morricone, as great as they are, does not belong to this list.
Hey everyone, please write your favorite 5 classical music pieces(in no particular order). I will collect the results and announce them at the end of the March 2012. Like this to make it a top comment so that more people can participate in this survey.
Ouais enfin, faut pas se leurrer, tout ça, plaisir musical compris, se rapporte au final à l'égo, à l'orgeuil, à la vanité. Quasiment impossible d'en sortir. Vibrer est une manifestation de l'égo. Autant rester cool et essayer de ne pas se prendre trop au sérieux, pour essayer d'éviter au ridicule.
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec thepolymorphisme qui dit qu'on ne ressent pas physiquement la musique. Bien au contraire, la vraie musique se ressent, déclenche chez son auditeur des sensations et des sentiments.
sarabande n'est peut être pas le "must" intellectuel de la musique classique au niveau de sa partition mais elle est d'une modernité étonnante et résonne en nous avec une force incroyable. C'est bien pour ça qu'elle est aimée.
I know this film till my childhood. My parents have the LP and I listened it many times. For me it represents all the glory, the grace, sadness and fatalism of this great epoque. Very beautifull. Recently I watched the movie again and now I love Kubric much more, because I found out the humorous and parodistic side of this wunderfull peace of art.
monsieur elle cet œuvre ni n'est a barry ni a Georg Friedrich Haendel d'origine il est portugais il s'est ecrit dans les 1600 mais l'auteur exacte aucun ne le connais il etait interpréter par plusieur mais le plus disent parfait c'etait de corelli au 1700 voila un petit résumé au sujet de cette music
J'adore la Sarabande ! Mangifique, sombre, puissante et qui aprèsun passage doux et calme, reprend, plus forte, plus viloente dans les émotion ! Je me l'éécouterais en boucle !!
Tout à fait d'accord mais je ne faisais que réagir à de nombreux commentaires qui se croyaient raffinés et cultivés car il appréciait ce morceau en se permettant de traiter d'incultes ceux qui pensaient le contraire. Pour ce qui est de la reconnaissance du classique, je ne suis pas sûr que de la découvrir au travers d'un thème aussi répétitif soit la meilleure des choses, et malheureusement on assiste plus à une "variétisation" de la musique classique qu'à une démocratisation de ces richesses.
@ThePolymorphisme Tu sais dans la vie tout est relatif. Certains aimeront, d'autres pas. Certains diront que c'est l'essence même de la musique classique, d'autres comme toi diront que c'est peut-être un peu trop répétitif ou vulgaire comparé à d'autres compositeurs que je ne prendrais pas la peine de citer. Pour ma part, j'aime ce morceau, point barre.
De ton côté, tu n'a pas l'air de l'aimer. Je crois qu'il faut s'en tenir là. Une des formes de l'intelligence est l'acceptation de la différence
L'infini beauté de la musique (classique) est bien loin de ce morceau pompier et va-t-en guerre et il y a à peine un quarantaine de personnes pour le souligner.
Tu n'as pas entièrement tort mais cette sarabande était considérée aux 17 et 18 ième siècle comme une danse royale donc et forcément une commande qui se devait d'être un peu pompeuse. Ceci dit, Handel a composé des tas d'autres morceaux moins connus et pourtant très beaux. Ce n'est pas parce que l'on apprécie un morceau de musique classique un peu trop connu que l'on est un aveugle. Si la reconnaissance de la musique classique doit passer par ce genre de compositions, tant mieux!
@ThePolymorphisme Pourtant il est extra ce "morceau pompier", je vous plains autant que ceux qui ne savent pas apprécier Haendel, réécoutez-le avec un CD et une vraie installation haute fidélité, on sent la puissance des tambours et la vibration de l'air rentrer dans le corps, c'est un plaisir qui ne s'explique pas, les mélomanes me comprendrons ;). Bien que le baroque soit considéré comme "supérieur" par beaucoup, je préfère de loin Tin Whistles à Sarabande.
@ContreJours Si pour vous la musique s’écoute avec la moelle épinière, c’est votre choix, par contre, imaginer que c’est le point de vue d’un mélomane, je suis moins d’accord. Quant aux vibrations dont vous parlez, ça me paraît proche de ce que l’on ressent sur une mobylette.
@ThePolymorphisme Désolé, mais je ne ressent pas la musique avec le lobe gauche de mon cerveau, avoir un QI de 140 n'est pas une condition pour apprécier la musique, la musique ne s'intellectualise pas. La différence est là, le mélomane n'as pas de honte à ressentir par la moelle ou tout autres partie de son son corps quand le pédant ne voit de noblesse que dans sa minuscule boite crânienne...
Juste sublime cette musique. Je l'écoute en boucle ces temps elle me rend mélancolique et nostalgique quand je l'écoute je repense à pleins de truc qui me sont arrivé dans le passé mal ou magnifique.... Est je la veux à mon enterement faut que j'écrive une note rapidement car il peut nois arricer n'importe quoi sans qu'on s'y attendent.
Ce morceau est magnifique, si je devais mourrir j'aimerais que l'on mette cette musique pour mon enterrement ! Et les 40 personnes qui n'aiment pas cette musique sont des incultes complets !!! (Enfin après chacun son avis ...)
...T' ascolterò tra gli altari barocchi, gli stucchi dorati, le tele di scuola veneta nella chiesa del mio piccolo e caro paese ...il giorno dei miei funerali...
Moi, si je devais mourir........ en fait je ne le voudrais pas, sinon je ne pourrais plus écouter cette musique et toutes les autres qu'il y a à entendre et découvrir !
it is the theme of early georgian london - the breaking of windows in tory town houses, the clinking doors of newgate, the pillory, sweaty taverns, coffee houses, molly houses, great architecture and literary exiles, oranges and lemons, ghosts and money.
@MrTripleconne Je ne pense pas que tu puisses appeller des personnes incultes juste parce qu'ils ne preferent pas ce morceau. En ce cas disons que l'inculte c'est toi puisque tu ne connais pas tout ces personnes et tu te permets de te diriger ainsi. : )
À l'enterrement récent d'un proche, elle a été jouée. Par l'orchestre de son fils, en temps réel, c'était vraiment d'une force poignante. Triste mais aussi pleine d'espoir, elle va aussi bien à Kubrick, qu'à Haendel, qu'à une cérémonie.
After I burried Seth I have had no chance to come back to this site.
Our debate is over now. He lost in a big fashion (had to erase everything he wrote as not to leave testimony of his stupidness) and didn't have the gentlemanliness to declare the winer. What a creep! I will not finish my list of 25 items for it makes no sense now. But I will come back to round up one or two things in case it may be of use to anyone. And to him.
Считается. что название этого танца до конца еще не объяснено.
Интересно, одно из этимологий слова "Sarabande" исходит из того, что раскладывая это слово на части "Sar" и "bande" имеем: "ГоловоПовязка".(девушки завязывали волосы "банд"ом)
По-осетински "Sar" - значит голова, и в то же время "бандан" это - веревка, а "баддан" - повязка. Если иметь в виду, что аланы попали вместе с вандалами-готами в Испанию, и даже имели там собственное королевство("Каталония" - Готалания), то может и верно ?
what respects to your claim that a comment should be enlightening. I should address that next time.
I was bringing Seth this two questions: What makes you call "bright" and "profound" that other commentary that you liked? What do you think is an accurate description of Sarabande and its meaning? I waited too long to ask them. Now I will never have the fun of watching Seth make a total idiot of himself traying to answer them.
last one is my favorite. You called "moronic", phrases like "This rocks", "This kicks a**" and approved "This is heaven". Well, I got news for you: "THEY ARE THE SAME THING!" They have the same intention and respond to the same motivation, the need to express a liking. They are a celebration. They are the same in the way "Bravo!" and "Cool!" are the same. The only difference is the jargon according to occasion and custom, and that is irrelevant for our purpose.
You said: "it felt (the comment) into a cliché"… Of course it is a cliché! A wonderful cliché! Using some sort of cliché is the only way to refer to the ineffable. Oh man!
(In fact, if heaven exists, and have music it probably has more than a seven tones scale, nothing like we can conceive. And the palette of colors, forget it! It must have not 3 primary colors but infinite.)
One characteristic of linear thinking is the many contradictions it produces. You have made several. Your
That is right. So clear that you can be sure that fronesis7 and the over 30 subscribers to her comment know it. But you marked their reaction as "moronic". Why? Because you lack the empirical reference/referent (the level of aesthetic pleasure, ecstasy, "A") that completely justifies the comment. Otherwise you would be joining them, not fighting them. Is this statement subjective? Not to those who have the empirical reference. (I can give about ten other objective indicators of this.)
somewhere, if the music is "dark and moody" then it doesn't "express" heaven because heaven is supposed to be happy and so on… In short, your great concept of the bright, profound, accurate, meaningful (all these are your words) is kiddies school music appreciation. My God!
If you had intellectual honesty you would have recognized that you lost this debate by December 2010. How many times do I have to win this debate to win it?
You said: "..very clearly is a dark and moody piece"...
of the discussion. Only now you do that. And I believe the reason there was no explanation then, is that you were ashamed to show up the absolute triviality of your position. But how did you realized your own triviality? Easy: because I showed it to you. In my December summary I made you learn that what you considered "bright" and "profound" in music (or musical video) commentary was actually pure conceptual routine with no merit. FOR EXAMPLE: a march type rhythm means "longing" to get/march
You said: "If it had read 'This is heaven' as you once mistakenly quoted I would not have such a problem with it. 'This sound like heaven' is printed as a misread to me, since it very clearly is a dark and moody piece."…
There it is! YOUR CENTRAL ARGUMENT IN THIS DEBATE! Something so trivial and obvious that is unbelievable. You once accused me of skewing because of the misquote you pointed out above. But you never offered details of how the misquote affected the contents of
arises. (You, having a linear thinking, don't appreciate that anyway.)
I'll start by skipping what I had to say about some misinterpretations you made about my "A & B" speech. (In short terms it was this: I gave a philosophical definition of the appreciative phenomenon and you replied as if I had given a classroom practical formula for art appreciation. You have no hope.)
So, no more teacher. I'll just go for you now… Let's get to it.
It looks like Seth removed all his commentaries. I was always afraid that would happen. I guess I should finish this by myself. SETH DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHILE I AM POSTING.
You said: "Lol! Your really putting a lot into this…" You are right. Isn't it awful? But I have decided that starting today I will stop being your teacher and just be your adversary. That means that I will stop trying to always close the circle of logical reasoning around every subject that
PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHILLE I'M POSTING. (You have done that 3 times.)
Me, a cockroach?!!… Well, all right, but make it a handsome cockroach, because I can not be just any cockroach, you know!
And now, let's rock…
You said: "You think appreciation is based solely on enjoyment…" …No. I don't. And if you were sharper you would have noticed. Appreciation, when defined as evaluation, is based either on A) the subjective aesthetic pleasures...
a piece of art (or any element of beauty) provokes in you, that is, the state of ecstasy that is not communicable with words (the ineffable); or B) by the theoryzable objective merits that the piece has, that therefore can be shared from one person to another through intellectual discourse. These merits (Item "B") are good to fill thousands of books and college courses about art criticism and to give art a theoretic body in which to sustain it as an institution.
@seth2342 (Item "B") yields to endless intellectual (or pseudointellectual) talk that goes nowhere when you lack the empirical reference to the vital (and transcendental) phenomenon described in Item "A". Of course, no one lacks it completely like no one lacks some ability for, say, mathematics (you wouldn't even have morals without sense of beauty). It is rather a matter of amount or degree that makes it meaningful in your mental disposition for critical analysis. And amount in the non...
@seth2342 rational zone of the mind that we call intuition configures quality (as define by "uniqueness"), that is, the special not repeatable identity of a "form" of beauty in your conscience. Identity equals subjectivity. If you don't get enough amount you grab yourself to the objective merits of the piece of art (described in Item "B") and live your live thinking that that is the great experience of art (and beauty).
So, it is as if to say that the appreciative act exists in two...
@seth2342 levels. Ecstasy, which is prior to logical reasoning, and logical reasoning. They interact. In innumerable ways I guess. But when the person is a lesser/smaller recipient/receptacle of ecstasy he or she will fill that vacuum with supplementary intellectual (and emotional) activity, and believe that that is art (or beauty) appreciation. You can spot them immediately when you hear them say: "a perfectly explainable art experience."
@seth2342 appreciate something better after understanding it better. My answer to you is: Yes, I have. But… The added pleasure that I got from understanding the piece better is the pleasure that is still in the level of what is objective (Item B), or subjective pleasure (Item A) that is not elicited by the new understanding, but by a new dichotomy of the two (A and B). Meaning that you can make me experience ineffable pleasure (A) with analysis (B) that you yourself have not experienced...
@seth2342 ,so it actually don't come from analysis (understanding), but from a synthesis of what I am able to feel (A) and your analysis (B).
You said: "Ever heard the old saying that you don't have to like a piece of art to appreciate it?" …Heard it? I confirm it every day: whenever I say that "Titanic" bores me to death but I have no negative critic about it, that I hate Ravel’s “Bolero” but that I consider it a masterpiece, and so on.
Barry Lyndon is probably Kubrick's last true masterpiece. It would be unbearably "slow" by today's standards, but those images that Kubrick lingers on are cinematic paintings to those of us who appreciate great films. The soundtrack is stunning. Kubrick wa a master of his craft.
madahad9 1 day ago
45 ppl can't Handel this.
MrConservative76 2 days ago
On n'aime pas cette musique : Elle appartient à une époque, l'instrumentalisation est triste, quelque peu austère, impression "institutionnelle" derrière, provoque beaucoup des remouds à l'esprit.
On aime cette musique : Le contexte où on la découvre change radicalement le sens ( comme pour le film où elle a été utilisée ), qu'elle a été utilisée pour rendre hommage à une personne brave, parce qu'elle évoque des sentiments appréciés. J'aurais tendance à ne pas aimer la musique cependant.
piopoulip 4 days ago
Who can dislike this?
rikblein 1 week ago
Magnifique musique ^^
maitrexun 1 week ago
exceptionnel ,cette oeuvre est si intense a mes oreilles
Mister74u 1 week ago
juste une phrase : les larmes au yeux que de souvenir j'en est des frisson ;,,,(
hugo21400 2 weeks ago
@hugo21400 j'en ai: du verbe "avoir" sans rancune!
dacry75 1 week ago
This movie is an absolute classic!
71259mark 2 weeks ago
Magnifique est un bien faible mot a mes yeux !!
Darkweeeeeeeeed 3 weeks ago
esta es una musica exepcional sin duda pero me a jodido
maxpizza100 3 weeks ago
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DannyGohan 3 weeks ago
greatings from Okocim in Poland, this is awesome!
n1majkel 3 weeks ago
J'adore tout s'implement.
MrKarlinlevideotest 4 weeks ago
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LifetimeLoner 1 month ago
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My choices:
Adagio in G Minor (Albinoni)
Four Seasons - Winter (Vivaldi)
Symphony No. 3 - 2nd mov. ( Brahms)
Sarabande (Handel)
Canon in D (Pachelbel)
LifetimeLoner 1 month ago
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Hey everyone, please write your favorite 5 classical music pieces(in no particular order). I will collect the results and announce them at the end of the March 2012. Like this to make it a top comment so that more people can participate in this survey.
LifetimeLoner 1 month ago
This reminds me of the "Away in a Manger" Christmas Carol for some reason. I just sing it very slowly and epicly in line with this
nedtf2 1 month ago
Chuck Norris is a hunter..but Chuck Norris does not hunt.. skip the ad
metal890 1 month ago
C'est un chef d'oeuvre!
IchirinNoHanaBleach 1 month ago
IT'S DUEL TIME!!
italianguns 1 month ago
красивая музыка в суперском фильме.
lilian20ful 1 month ago
@lilian20ful Da!
custosconstitutionis 1 month ago
@Catachrise mdr
LTBFxjokerzz 1 month ago
J aime Haendel mais je préfère Beethoven, Mozart, Shubert.
LTBFxjokerzz 1 month ago
Quand je l'écoute, les larmes me montent aux yeux ... C'est magnifique !
Kortanah67 2 months ago
@Kortanah67 Que te fucken gilipuertas
carlespeta 2 months ago
@Kortanah67 que te fucken gilipuertas
carlespeta 2 months ago
musica eccezzionale per un film eccezzionnale
TheLupo51 2 months ago
Pour mon enterrement, je veux la Merguez party des musclés.
SoMuchForComments 2 months ago
@SoMuchForComments Pas mal hahaha .
m0xii 2 months ago
Ouais enfin, faut pas se leurrer, tout ça, plaisir musical compris, se rapporte au final à l'égo, à l'orgeuil, à la vanité. Quasiment impossible d'en sortir. Vibrer est une manifestation de l'égo. Autant rester cool et essayer de ne pas se prendre trop au sérieux, pour essayer d'éviter au ridicule.
SoMuchForComments 2 months ago
@SoMuchForComments *d'échapper, pardon
SoMuchForComments 2 months ago
@SoMuchForComments C'est ton point de vue.
Mais jsuis d'accord, évitons le ridicule et écoutons au lieu de causer.
Catachrise 1 month ago
Je ne suis pas d'accord avec thepolymorphisme qui dit qu'on ne ressent pas physiquement la musique. Bien au contraire, la vraie musique se ressent, déclenche chez son auditeur des sensations et des sentiments.
sarabande n'est peut être pas le "must" intellectuel de la musique classique au niveau de sa partition mais elle est d'une modernité étonnante et résonne en nous avec une force incroyable. C'est bien pour ça qu'elle est aimée.
AltanaisProduction 3 months ago
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gffg2000 3 months ago
someone needs to do a commentary track for this film!
blaiserfilms 3 months ago
I know this film till my childhood. My parents have the LP and I listened it many times. For me it represents all the glory, the grace, sadness and fatalism of this great epoque. Very beautifull. Recently I watched the movie again and now I love Kubric much more, because I found out the humorous and parodistic side of this wunderfull peace of art.
heliospear 3 months ago 2
Cher alexmyself1, celui qui a écrit cette musique s'appelle Georg Friedrich Haendel, non pas Barry.
FlorentBeau 3 months ago
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@FlorentBeau
monsieur elle cet œuvre ni n'est a barry ni a Georg Friedrich Haendel d'origine il est portugais il s'est ecrit dans les 1600 mais l'auteur exacte aucun ne le connais il etait interpréter par plusieur mais le plus disent parfait c'etait de corelli au 1700 voila un petit résumé au sujet de cette music
gffg2000 3 months ago
I want this song for my funeral .... <3
timmy67140 3 months ago
@timmy67140 I want this song during my coronation as King! lol
NorseCrusader 3 months ago
Epique, sublime, ...
75SimoneSimone 3 months ago
This will be played at my funeral
RareBillyIdolSongs 3 months ago
Cher Barry, il est des musiques plus insignifiante que d'autres, celle-ci dépasse toutes les autres sur ce point; Cordialement
alexmyself1 3 months ago
Mon Dieu ! Quelle magnificence ! Cette mélodie me traverse le corps et l'esprit !
Laurentinum 3 months ago
grande musique pour un grand film.
ps: tu nous manques stanley
boklerq 3 months ago
cette musique nous donne a la fois du courage et a la fois envie de pleurer
MrDourx 3 months ago
Haendel's Sarabande has the power to stop war.
SechsAngriff 3 months ago
amazing song
byKorbi 3 months ago
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rockthemix 3 months ago
Pura arte!!!!!!!
Hannah7739 3 months ago in playlist Vídeos de Hannah7739 adicionados aos favoritos 2
bbc auschwitz credits song :) that what brought me here :) thumbs up love this song !
kurasiak3 3 months ago
cette musique sera pour le jour de ma mort †R.I.P FOR ME†
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rausirius 4 months ago
@rausirius Heuresement tu n'es pas encore mort...
gregbboy619 3 months ago
@gregbboy619 oui ^_^"
rausirius 3 months ago
@rausirius Mon Dieu...
gregbboy619 3 months ago
@gregbboy619 ^^"
rausirius 3 months ago
"L'arte?... c'est l'art - et puis? Voila tout!"
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J'adore la Sarabande ! Mangifique, sombre, puissante et qui aprèsun passage doux et calme, reprend, plus forte, plus viloente dans les émotion ! Je me l'éécouterais en boucle !!
Aenigmatus 4 months ago
Quel travail de génie !
KilianKlasen 4 months ago
Sau gut!!!
junior19001 4 months ago
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junior19001 4 months ago
Un tube absolu
MrTIRILLY 4 months ago
Perfect...
satoshimovie 4 months ago
"It was in the reign of King George that the aforementioned people lived and quarrelled. Good or ugly, rich or poor, they are all equal now."
MrBastilleDay 5 months ago 7
this music make the film !
Manzeron 5 months ago 2
Commentaire simple : Musique Extraordinaire.
Mon commentaire perso : Ce genre de musique devrait être la référence pour les jeunes ...
guard2205 5 months ago
Tout à fait d'accord mais je ne faisais que réagir à de nombreux commentaires qui se croyaient raffinés et cultivés car il appréciait ce morceau en se permettant de traiter d'incultes ceux qui pensaient le contraire. Pour ce qui est de la reconnaissance du classique, je ne suis pas sûr que de la découvrir au travers d'un thème aussi répétitif soit la meilleure des choses, et malheureusement on assiste plus à une "variétisation" de la musique classique qu'à une démocratisation de ces richesses.
ThePolymorphisme 6 months ago
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ContreJours 5 months ago
@ThePolymorphisme Tu sais dans la vie tout est relatif. Certains aimeront, d'autres pas. Certains diront que c'est l'essence même de la musique classique, d'autres comme toi diront que c'est peut-être un peu trop répétitif ou vulgaire comparé à d'autres compositeurs que je ne prendrais pas la peine de citer. Pour ma part, j'aime ce morceau, point barre.
De ton côté, tu n'a pas l'air de l'aimer. Je crois qu'il faut s'en tenir là. Une des formes de l'intelligence est l'acceptation de la différence
ThomasLumenis 2 months ago 17
L'infini beauté de la musique (classique) est bien loin de ce morceau pompier et va-t-en guerre et il y a à peine un quarantaine de personnes pour le souligner.
ThePolymorphisme 6 months ago
Tu n'as pas entièrement tort mais cette sarabande était considérée aux 17 et 18 ième siècle comme une danse royale donc et forcément une commande qui se devait d'être un peu pompeuse. Ceci dit, Handel a composé des tas d'autres morceaux moins connus et pourtant très beaux. Ce n'est pas parce que l'on apprécie un morceau de musique classique un peu trop connu que l'on est un aveugle. Si la reconnaissance de la musique classique doit passer par ce genre de compositions, tant mieux!
igmaroneful 6 months ago
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ContreJours 5 months ago
@ThePolymorphisme Pourtant il est extra ce "morceau pompier", je vous plains autant que ceux qui ne savent pas apprécier Haendel, réécoutez-le avec un CD et une vraie installation haute fidélité, on sent la puissance des tambours et la vibration de l'air rentrer dans le corps, c'est un plaisir qui ne s'explique pas, les mélomanes me comprendrons ;). Bien que le baroque soit considéré comme "supérieur" par beaucoup, je préfère de loin Tin Whistles à Sarabande.
ContreJours 5 months ago
@ContreJours Si pour vous la musique s’écoute avec la moelle épinière, c’est votre choix, par contre, imaginer que c’est le point de vue d’un mélomane, je suis moins d’accord. Quant aux vibrations dont vous parlez, ça me paraît proche de ce que l’on ressent sur une mobylette.
ThePolymorphisme 5 months ago
@ThePolymorphisme Désolé, mais je ne ressent pas la musique avec le lobe gauche de mon cerveau, avoir un QI de 140 n'est pas une condition pour apprécier la musique, la musique ne s'intellectualise pas. La différence est là, le mélomane n'as pas de honte à ressentir par la moelle ou tout autres partie de son son corps quand le pédant ne voit de noblesse que dans sa minuscule boite crânienne...
ContreJours 5 months ago 39
@ContreJours Haha, j'ai presque pleuré devant la pertinence de vos mots.
krupnink 3 weeks ago
Juste sublime cette musique. Je l'écoute en boucle ces temps elle me rend mélancolique et nostalgique quand je l'écoute je repense à pleins de truc qui me sont arrivé dans le passé mal ou magnifique.... Est je la veux à mon enterement faut que j'écrive une note rapidement car il peut nois arricer n'importe quoi sans qu'on s'y attendent.
flornaflorna 6 months ago
Film sublime
MrShortbus3 6 months ago
Je connais surtout cette musique grâce à la série Les Misérables
MsObirah 6 months ago
Why on Earth is this disliked?
weepz 6 months ago
Ce morceau est magnifique, si je devais mourrir j'aimerais que l'on mette cette musique pour mon enterrement ! Et les 40 personnes qui n'aiment pas cette musique sont des incultes complets !!! (Enfin après chacun son avis ...)
Oree27 6 months ago 3
JE VEUX CETTE MUSIQUE POUR MA NAISSANCE!!!!!!
vlnlcn 6 months ago 8
@vlnlcn mdrrr
elvizpki 6 months ago
@vlnlcn pas mieux pour tes funérailles?
IuganProduction 5 months ago
@vlnlcn c'est le meilleur commentaire que j'aie jamais vu sur youtube ça!
toapes1 1 month ago
@vlnlcn C'est un peu trop tard non ? Au pire pour ton enterrement ...
DjFabStellar 1 month ago
This is much better than the original version. I love it!
MrElephantMemory 6 months ago 5
Cette Musique est utiliser dans les radio Antillaise pour annoncer les décès (Dans une rubrique bien nommés:
Les avis D’obsèques ou les avis de décès.
tontonpascal 6 months ago
STANLEY ....
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Marco33185 7 months ago 3
Tell me the story about the fort, papa
Borfel 7 months ago 29
upload on 720p pleassse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DjSweetline 7 months ago
Sarah est donc un nom de shemale :hap:
JeanDuponche 8 months ago
@JeanDuponche Oh putain, j'y ai jamais pensé, merci cher hapiste !
MahBoiProduction100 8 months ago
Sarah est donc un nom d'homme.. :hap:
Soogoush 8 months ago 2
I have had this song played for nearly every music exam I've had! Love it.
poppy7992 8 months ago
300 years old music , not bad :))))))
zaneobre 8 months ago 5
...T' ascolterò tra gli altari barocchi, gli stucchi dorati, le tele di scuola veneta nella chiesa del mio piccolo e caro paese ...il giorno dei miei funerali...
67grevale 8 months ago 14
Cette musique est si magnifique qu'elle est dehors du réel.
e95t 8 months ago 4
Moi, si je devais mourir........ en fait je ne le voudrais pas, sinon je ne pourrais plus écouter cette musique et toutes les autres qu'il y a à entendre et découvrir !
HawkEyeshield 8 months ago 2
et bien si moi je dois mourir dans une charge de cavalerie, je veux que ce soit sur cette musique
mortaltatane 9 months ago 3
Elle y est aussi dans "99 francs" !
oknehcvod 9 months ago
我最喜欢这个曲。
xingmeichun 9 months ago
ΤΟ ΨΑΧΝΑ ΚΑΙΡΟ ΚΑΙ ΤΟ ΒΡΗΚΑ ΕΝΤΕΛΩΣ ΣΤΟ ΝΤΟΥΚΟΥ!!!! YYIIIHHAAAAAA :d
lampwithbulb2 9 months ago
This song is my second favourite song of my life. Ever. The first would have to be Promenade from Mussorgsy.
MalonTheFarmGirl 9 months ago
@MalonTheFarmGirl good tip, thanks!
notethisname 9 months ago
it is the theme of early georgian london - the breaking of windows in tory town houses, the clinking doors of newgate, the pillory, sweaty taverns, coffee houses, molly houses, great architecture and literary exiles, oranges and lemons, ghosts and money.
uclrichard 9 months ago 3
@uclrichard What are you on abut? A film?
notethisname 9 months ago
@uclrichard My friend, could not be said better!
Thank you
ymsena99 8 months ago
Seit ich es zum ersten Mal gehört habe, liebe ich dieses Stück. Es ist so toll...
clovehon 9 months ago
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@clovehon I know, it is great!
notethisname 9 months ago
38 personnes sont des idiots incultes.
MrTripleconne 9 months ago 137
@MrTripleconne au moins !!!!!!!
e95t 8 months ago
@MrTripleconne tout à fait !!
psg1994 8 months ago
@MrTripleconne chacun ses opinions... C'pas parce qu'ils n'aiment pas cette musique qu'ils n'écoutent que de la merde.
angerock49 6 months ago
@MrTripleconne Je ne pense pas que tu puisses appeller des personnes incultes juste parce qu'ils ne preferent pas ce morceau. En ce cas disons que l'inculte c'est toi puisque tu ne connais pas tout ces personnes et tu te permets de te diriger ainsi. : )
gregbboy619 6 months ago
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sebastdev 5 months ago
@MrTripleconne 41 maintenant :(
MrKickme65 5 months ago
@MrTripleconne Ils se sont reproduits on dirait :)
Ramadan3th 5 months ago
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droffig4 4 months ago
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droffig4 4 months ago
@MrTripleconne La prolifération des commentaires de ce genre est plutôt rasoir et idiot aussi, je trouve.
droffig4 4 months ago
@MrTripleconne 42
jupagu3 4 months ago in playlist Música clásica
it's fantastic, this music is perfect. I have hear today a new Sarabande piano version by a new young singer Adam Davis
greg270582 9 months ago
auschwirz: nazis and the final solution
ReaIly 9 months ago
cmt peut on ne pas aimer ???
LuluXD92 9 months ago
The goonies fuck the world with this music !
TheSkyGrinder 10 months ago
Handel sen beni siktin ben de senin ruhunu sikicem...
sikimsonik 10 months ago
C'est tout juste énorme ce morceau, je l'avais déjà entendu à la TV je crois...
merci pour le partage !
Boulshit94 10 months ago
Becaue there are people of all parts of the world, ci sono anch'io che sono Italiano.
Questa è musica.
TheLilllo 10 months ago
@TheLilllo perche i poche siempre fanno a modo de poche
fistofthenorthstar89 10 months ago
Je veux cette musique pour mes funérailles !
la4emetassacafe 10 months ago 149
@la4emetassacafe
Excellente idée !
Septimanien 10 months ago
@la4emetassacafe quel mégalo !
PAULEFORIE 10 months ago
@la4emetassacafe moi aussi
e95t 8 months ago
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@la4emetassacafe moi aussi
e95t 8 months ago
@la4emetassacafe
À l'enterrement récent d'un proche, elle a été jouée. Par l'orchestre de son fils, en temps réel, c'était vraiment d'une force poignante. Triste mais aussi pleine d'espoir, elle va aussi bien à Kubrick, qu'à Haendel, qu'à une cérémonie.
HamsterNoeliste 7 months ago 4
@HamsterNoeliste
Toutes mes condoléances .
Mais Bach est quand même ... comment dirai-je... mieux.
interval999 6 months ago
@la4emetassacafe mon grand père y a eu droit, c'était "génial"
cotelette2 7 months ago
@la4emetassacafe
Cette Musique est utiliser dans les radio Antillaise pour annoncer les décès (Dans une rubrique bien nommés:
Les avis D’obsèques ou les avis de décès.
tontonpascal 6 months ago
@la4emetassacafe Lol ce qui est drôle c'est que cette musique était utilisée (il y a fort longtemps) surtout dans les marriages xD
MCOnito 5 months ago
@la4emetassacafe et moi pour mon mariage!
sarahhsh 4 months ago
Muazzam eserler bunlar. Bestecilerinin ruhları önünde dinleyen her insanın saygıyla eğilmesi lâzım. Öyle gerekiyor.
naimtekin 10 months ago
Saludos!
After I burried Seth I have had no chance to come back to this site.
Our debate is over now. He lost in a big fashion (had to erase everything he wrote as not to leave testimony of his stupidness) and didn't have the gentlemanliness to declare the winer. What a creep! I will not finish my list of 25 items for it makes no sense now. But I will come back to round up one or two things in case it may be of use to anyone. And to him.
elsuperbrain (please excuse my english)
elsuperbrain 10 months ago
A truly brilliant piece!
paul55939 10 months ago
dziękuje bogu za mistrzów muzyki klasycznej
TheAmonget 10 months ago
Считается. что название этого танца до конца еще не объяснено.
Интересно, одно из этимологий слова "Sarabande" исходит из того, что раскладывая это слово на части "Sar" и "bande" имеем: "ГоловоПовязка".(девушки завязывали волосы "банд"ом)
По-осетински "Sar" - значит голова, и в то же время "бандан" это - веревка, а "баддан" - повязка. Если иметь в виду, что аланы попали вместе с вандалами-готами в Испанию, и даже имели там собственное королевство("Каталония" - Готалания), то может и верно ?
Farasht 11 months ago
what respects to your claim that a comment should be enlightening. I should address that next time.
I was bringing Seth this two questions: What makes you call "bright" and "profound" that other commentary that you liked? What do you think is an accurate description of Sarabande and its meaning? I waited too long to ask them. Now I will never have the fun of watching Seth make a total idiot of himself traying to answer them.
el superbrain
(please excuse my english)
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
last one is my favorite. You called "moronic", phrases like "This rocks", "This kicks a**" and approved "This is heaven". Well, I got news for you: "THEY ARE THE SAME THING!" They have the same intention and respond to the same motivation, the need to express a liking. They are a celebration. They are the same in the way "Bravo!" and "Cool!" are the same. The only difference is the jargon according to occasion and custom, and that is irrelevant for our purpose.
The only thing left is
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
You said: "it felt (the comment) into a cliché"… Of course it is a cliché! A wonderful cliché! Using some sort of cliché is the only way to refer to the ineffable. Oh man!
(In fact, if heaven exists, and have music it probably has more than a seven tones scale, nothing like we can conceive. And the palette of colors, forget it! It must have not 3 primary colors but infinite.)
One characteristic of linear thinking is the many contradictions it produces. You have made several. Your
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
That is right. So clear that you can be sure that fronesis7 and the over 30 subscribers to her comment know it. But you marked their reaction as "moronic". Why? Because you lack the empirical reference/referent (the level of aesthetic pleasure, ecstasy, "A") that completely justifies the comment. Otherwise you would be joining them, not fighting them. Is this statement subjective? Not to those who have the empirical reference. (I can give about ten other objective indicators of this.)
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
somewhere, if the music is "dark and moody" then it doesn't "express" heaven because heaven is supposed to be happy and so on… In short, your great concept of the bright, profound, accurate, meaningful (all these are your words) is kiddies school music appreciation. My God!
If you had intellectual honesty you would have recognized that you lost this debate by December 2010. How many times do I have to win this debate to win it?
You said: "..very clearly is a dark and moody piece"...
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
of the discussion. Only now you do that. And I believe the reason there was no explanation then, is that you were ashamed to show up the absolute triviality of your position. But how did you realized your own triviality? Easy: because I showed it to you. In my December summary I made you learn that what you considered "bright" and "profound" in music (or musical video) commentary was actually pure conceptual routine with no merit. FOR EXAMPLE: a march type rhythm means "longing" to get/march
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
You said: "If it had read 'This is heaven' as you once mistakenly quoted I would not have such a problem with it. 'This sound like heaven' is printed as a misread to me, since it very clearly is a dark and moody piece."…
There it is! YOUR CENTRAL ARGUMENT IN THIS DEBATE! Something so trivial and obvious that is unbelievable. You once accused me of skewing because of the misquote you pointed out above. But you never offered details of how the misquote affected the contents of
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
arises. (You, having a linear thinking, don't appreciate that anyway.)
I'll start by skipping what I had to say about some misinterpretations you made about my "A & B" speech. (In short terms it was this: I gave a philosophical definition of the appreciative phenomenon and you replied as if I had given a classroom practical formula for art appreciation. You have no hope.)
So, no more teacher. I'll just go for you now… Let's get to it.
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
@seth2342
2/20/11
It looks like Seth removed all his commentaries. I was always afraid that would happen. I guess I should finish this by myself. SETH DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHILE I AM POSTING.
You said: "Lol! Your really putting a lot into this…" You are right. Isn't it awful? But I have decided that starting today I will stop being your teacher and just be your adversary. That means that I will stop trying to always close the circle of logical reasoning around every subject that
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
This piece is beautiful. I wish we could put aside petty internet arguments and just enjoy the music for what it is. Absolutley sublime!
Denouncethemachine 11 months ago
this movie looks fab,barry lyndon,great battle scenes,and military music
broadband01 11 months ago
what horrible person dumps there boyfriend or girlfriend on valentines day! D:
REIL2LYFE 11 months ago
@pienskybynby I' m ok with you
kostiarr 11 months ago
beautiful music
Little75209 11 months ago
Just heard this in a SuperBowl commercial.
truecinema 11 months ago
@truecinema me too. we musta watched the same game.
brosephjames 11 months ago
sublime..la musique..le film..
vlom23 11 months ago
GREAT HANDEL THNKS ! STANLAY THNKS ! CINEMA WHERE ARE YOU IN THESE DAYS .....
maxtoscano 11 months ago
Define "appreciation"...
See you next week. And dont interrupt me. My time is limitated. And get a life. There is a world out there outside this site.
el superbrain )Please excuse my english)
elsuperbrain 1 year ago
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seth2342 11 months ago
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seth2342 11 months ago
@seth2342 Feb. 9, 2011
PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME WHILLE I'M POSTING. (You have done that 3 times.)
Me, a cockroach?!!… Well, all right, but make it a handsome cockroach, because I can not be just any cockroach, you know!
And now, let's rock…
You said: "You think appreciation is based solely on enjoyment…" …No. I don't. And if you were sharper you would have noticed. Appreciation, when defined as evaluation, is based either on A) the subjective aesthetic pleasures...
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
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a piece of art (or any element of beauty) provokes in you, that is, the state of ecstasy that is not communicable with words (the ineffable); or B) by the theoryzable objective merits that the piece has, that therefore can be shared from one person to another through intellectual discourse. These merits (Item "B") are good to fill thousands of books and college courses about art criticism and to give art a theoretic body in which to sustain it as an institution.
This capacity...
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
@seth2342 (Item "B") yields to endless intellectual (or pseudointellectual) talk that goes nowhere when you lack the empirical reference to the vital (and transcendental) phenomenon described in Item "A". Of course, no one lacks it completely like no one lacks some ability for, say, mathematics (you wouldn't even have morals without sense of beauty). It is rather a matter of amount or degree that makes it meaningful in your mental disposition for critical analysis. And amount in the non...
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
@seth2342 rational zone of the mind that we call intuition configures quality (as define by "uniqueness"), that is, the special not repeatable identity of a "form" of beauty in your conscience. Identity equals subjectivity. If you don't get enough amount you grab yourself to the objective merits of the piece of art (described in Item "B") and live your live thinking that that is the great experience of art (and beauty).
So, it is as if to say that the appreciative act exists in two...
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
@seth2342 levels. Ecstasy, which is prior to logical reasoning, and logical reasoning. They interact. In innumerable ways I guess. But when the person is a lesser/smaller recipient/receptacle of ecstasy he or she will fill that vacuum with supplementary intellectual (and emotional) activity, and believe that that is art (or beauty) appreciation. You can spot them immediately when you hear them say: "a perfectly explainable art experience."
You asked me if I ever learned to...
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
@seth2342 appreciate something better after understanding it better. My answer to you is: Yes, I have. But… The added pleasure that I got from understanding the piece better is the pleasure that is still in the level of what is objective (Item B), or subjective pleasure (Item A) that is not elicited by the new understanding, but by a new dichotomy of the two (A and B). Meaning that you can make me experience ineffable pleasure (A) with analysis (B) that you yourself have not experienced...
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
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seth2342 11 months ago
@seth2342 ,so it actually don't come from analysis (understanding), but from a synthesis of what I am able to feel (A) and your analysis (B).
You said: "Ever heard the old saying that you don't have to like a piece of art to appreciate it?" …Heard it? I confirm it every day: whenever I say that "Titanic" bores me to death but I have no negative critic about it, that I hate Ravel’s “Bolero” but that I consider it a masterpiece, and so on.
Your turn.
el superbrain
(e.m. english)
elsuperbrain 11 months ago
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