its a shame that these days iron forge and undercity remain deserted. they used to thrive. i think blizzard should move banks to iron forge and auction houses to stormwind and similar for horde. might sem sucky, but it will bring life back to the "minor" cities!
Don't get me wrong, I agree that this old Ironforge looks great. But those of you complaining that the modern Ironforge sucks are probably the same people who would be complaining about how long it took to navigate the old city. :P
Hmm - having now seen the the dwarven city instance in Cata, and of course BRD right through, there is no way the original IF would or could have been as small as it now is - it's tiny compare to the supposedly later less developed cities of Dark Irons et al. IF HAD to be much bigger and they really should bring back some of the complex elements - not to mention Old IF - anyone got vid of that as by the time I heard of it Blizz had blocked it off?
@timofthomas Old IF was opened back up recently. You can go there and see Magni crystallized as well as several dwarves, some are guarding him, others are researching a way to reverse the curse.
Because many people are complaining about the game, and as more people are complaining the more easier must the game be, because blizz don't want to lose players.
And because people don't find their way through the old if, it had to be changed... well it wouldhave been nice if it would be the ironforge of today but it also would have been nice if they never added the questmarkers so that you must actually read the questdiscription but that would be too difficult for some.
Have a look at SumiaGaming(--)c0m vote/apply for closed beta. New community Blizzlike and bug free. With well known developement known as Bangbangpow and Hueyz.
Will need thumbs ups to get the population on the forums/beta running !
this ironforge looks so much better then the current,it have a more lively and architectural feel! if this was our ironforge today i would make it my home even though i would have to take the deeprun tram all the time! it would be fun just running around exploring and fuckin around!
"WAH, I R LOST." "Map, learn it, live it, love it."
This actually feels like a dwarven fortress-city SHOULD feel like. But, no, too many whiny little bitches whose brains hurt at anything requiring more mental effort than 2+2 turned Ironforge into the two-ring wheel it is today.
man atleast here the city feels like a big city... screw that that pepole complained about getting lost.... Learn your ways or use map is that ill say! .... sigh... if only IF was this cool now days in retail....
@MrChristoffer1992 Amen. WoW has some of the tiniest cities of any MMORPG I have ever played. Tiny world too. People who think cities and stuff are too big in WoW would shit themselves if they played some of the older MMOs
@EmperorofCartoons I think that has to do with the new "Flying in Azeroth" ability as well. Because before, the world felt much bigger. But now you fly everywhere with 310% speed.
This version of IF is awesome! But still i understand why they changed it. Would have been way to big/unused space etc. Should have been a mix between the two:P
@startide I don't know if you have been answered, but I believe the other destination of the Deeprum Tram is Gnomeregan, which was supposed to be an Alliance city as well, but they cancelled due to faction imbalance
@johnnyo032003 exactly what I was gonna say, it was suppost to be connected like Horde zeps connected all 3 cities. Not sure why it was cancelled and they added the boat but possibly something with zoning and a tram possibly working different then a slower boat/zepplin
This looks much more like a city then the ironforge we have now. They should at least have kept the second layer, i liked it :) But the great forge looks like nothing in the alpha though.
@theMATThatter10of6 I'm afraid I'm not following - what do you mean by this comment? I haven't played WoW since TBC. I posted this video in 2006 and, as I say, it's not my own creation. I just uploaded it.
Blizzard has consistently had to dumb down aspects of this game due the larger portion of the player base being morons. Smart business plan for sure though. I think they took a page out of Apple's book - take something smart people enjoy and package it for idiots
I kinda like this version more, to me it always seemed like Ironforge was dwarfed in comparison to how i imagined it. I mean, if almost the entire dwarf race was in a mountain, I imagined a hollowed out, Epic multi-tiered city. This (while a little confusing & w/ some useless parts.) fits that more than the current "ring with a dot in the middle" city...idk but the two tiers b4 the forge and also the multiple floors appeals to me, they shud have streamlined tht idea w/o taking so much out :D
well, instead of changing the whole fuckin city, why not just shrink it a tad bit and leave it the way it was, this looked more realistic and more interesting. if the cities were more like this id play WoW till the day i die.
i like the feel of this one better, if they made it with sort of the similar layout it has now, only make it feel more clustered and actually inside of a mountain, that would be great
It's so nice, there should supposed to been a elevator from "new" ironforge down to old ironforge, and a elevator down to Gnomeregan. But blizzard pulled it away and made this, which is ugly in comparesion with this.
It looks more like ,surprise, an actual city, It's more compact, IF now is so open and now that everyone has been in OL, and Northrend, IF just isnt as full as it used to be, so it's even more empty now than ever.
They should open up a few more levels of IF, if you read wowwiki theres like 8 floors, and some of them sound like the way this looks here.
how do u access the alpha game?
Munchupyourwaffles 2 weeks ago
its a shame that these days iron forge and undercity remain deserted. they used to thrive. i think blizzard should move banks to iron forge and auction houses to stormwind and similar for horde. might sem sucky, but it will bring life back to the "minor" cities!
HeadshotSim 2 weeks ago
fajnie to wyglądało :))) a muzyka zajebista!
potworek555 4 weeks ago
Whoooooo!! The forge was really cool back then! Damn Blizzard! ¬¬
darkchronoss 1 month ago
"Ironforge has been changed due of players getting lost in it." Bullshit. :P
Gromorionkar 1 month ago
Checkout this channel for lvl 60 movies!
vanillawowmovies 1 month ago
fuck sake this looks better and more exciting
fealmor 2 months ago
Old IF has as many twist and turns as Org lol
vids2002 2 months ago
epic music and EPIC city.. that no one got to see
seafoodpizzayum 3 months ago
Mark my words, and mark them well, deathwing. I will get the King of the Bronzebeards back.
LiveitRivet920 4 months ago
Don't get me wrong, I agree that this old Ironforge looks great. But those of you complaining that the modern Ironforge sucks are probably the same people who would be complaining about how long it took to navigate the old city. :P
RageFire12 4 months ago 2
damn, this is awesome
krusokat 5 months ago
Name of song??
warmonger280fate 6 months ago
I wish this was our ironforge T^T
MrDestroBurn 6 months ago
Hmm - having now seen the the dwarven city instance in Cata, and of course BRD right through, there is no way the original IF would or could have been as small as it now is - it's tiny compare to the supposedly later less developed cities of Dark Irons et al. IF HAD to be much bigger and they really should bring back some of the complex elements - not to mention Old IF - anyone got vid of that as by the time I heard of it Blizz had blocked it off?
timofthomas 7 months ago
@timofthomas Old IF was opened back up recently. You can go there and see Magni crystallized as well as several dwarves, some are guarding him, others are researching a way to reverse the curse.
Thagesthoughts 7 months ago 2
WHY THE FUCK WAS WOW BETTER IN ALPHA THAN ATM?
Emberplate 7 months ago 2
@Emberplate
Because many people are complaining about the game, and as more people are complaining the more easier must the game be, because blizz don't want to lose players.
And because people don't find their way through the old if, it had to be changed... well it wouldhave been nice if it would be the ironforge of today but it also would have been nice if they never added the questmarkers so that you must actually read the questdiscription but that would be too difficult for some.
GuardianOfHate 5 months ago
whats the name of the song?
TheAspire68 8 months ago
@TheAspire68 Clubbed To Death by Rob Dougan
Metalingus96 7 months ago
I also wish they would have kept this one...
Melilithia 8 months ago
What is the title of the song?
Grimgreg89 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Have a look at SumiaGaming(--)c0m vote/apply for closed beta. New community Blizzlike and bug free. With well known developement known as Bangbangpow and Hueyz.
Will need thumbs ups to get the population on the forums/beta running !
Sumiagaming 9 months ago
Damn this ironforge looks much better and looks much more like a city
Fusionx916 9 months ago
confused, like UC ;P
thetack007 10 months ago
old IF looks great WTF was blizz doing
iMalakai 11 months ago
this ironforge looks so much better then the current,it have a more lively and architectural feel! if this was our ironforge today i would make it my home even though i would have to take the deeprun tram all the time! it would be fun just running around exploring and fuckin around!
Holhander 1 year ago 25
well they "NERFED" a whole fukn city!
just cuz theres a lot of dumb idiots lost in there?! now thats stupid.
rebelpy 1 year ago
"WAH, I R LOST." "Map, learn it, live it, love it."
This actually feels like a dwarven fortress-city SHOULD feel like. But, no, too many whiny little bitches whose brains hurt at anything requiring more mental effort than 2+2 turned Ironforge into the two-ring wheel it is today.
Izzy890 1 year ago 4
Whats this song?
xzamin 1 year ago
man atleast here the city feels like a big city... screw that that pepole complained about getting lost.... Learn your ways or use map is that ill say! .... sigh... if only IF was this cool now days in retail....
MrChristoffer1992 1 year ago
@MrChristoffer1992 Amen. WoW has some of the tiniest cities of any MMORPG I have ever played. Tiny world too. People who think cities and stuff are too big in WoW would shit themselves if they played some of the older MMOs
EmperorofCartoons 9 months ago
@EmperorofCartoons I think that has to do with the new "Flying in Azeroth" ability as well. Because before, the world felt much bigger. But now you fly everywhere with 310% speed.
XyberXero 7 months ago
This feels more like a city in the same way that the updated Stormwind/Orgrimmar feel expanded.
Except, you know, this existed before WoW came out.
grymroq 1 year ago
@grymroq If only they could have made IF more like this with Cataclysm.
grymroq 1 year ago
this feels more like a city.
tjfosho 1 year ago
This would have been awesome.
Ricalloo 1 year ago
It's fucking huge.
shankadelic007 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
bring this shit back!
Generalmortious 1 year ago
This really looks like a city build around a forge, instead of a forge build inside a city.
WowTholyn 1 year ago
this version of ironforge may have looked better, bigger and more epic but it was a functional NIGHTMARE.
However, lorewise if IF was real, it would be something like this.
tenjenk 1 year ago
also its easy to say to use the map but people still got lost cause of the multiple levels, stairs, nooks cranies, bridges and what have you.
tenjenk 1 year ago
I liked the music.. Lol, Anyways loved the vid, IDC If i got lost in it! That place was epic!
TehN00Bpwnator 1 year ago
stop using this music. its even on fucking porn movies
NeXuzBakaneesan 1 year ago
So's your mum.
Serdoh 1 year ago
Were gnomes really that tiny or what?
CristianHenri 1 year ago
Give us bak our alpha IF! Much better for hide and seek....
JK, but srsly. That looks awesome. Wish they had let IF stay that way.
Martinah123 1 year ago
lol ppl got lost? use the map
shaveyourwookie 1 year ago
Looks ALOT better ;/
DAGET1234 1 year ago
This version of IF is awesome! But still i understand why they changed it. Would have been way to big/unused space etc. Should have been a mix between the two:P
iFinni 1 year ago
This looks better than the final version, but also has too much unused space.
Tomahaukka 1 year ago
way better.
Vitzartti 1 year ago
now THATS a dwarf city!
Kimoshnikov 1 year ago
Dudedemoney: you probably thought that this vid was for Ironforge in Cataclysm... ;)
wiroxe 1 year ago
That's pretty cool. I love Ironforge either way, and Dwarven lore is the epic.
theorangedog94 1 year ago
Would you have the videos for the elevators mentionned at the end of the video ? As well as deeprun tram going somewhere else (where ?) ?
THX for the video, it's very cool ;)
startide 1 year ago
@startide I'm afraid this video is not my creation, so sadly not!
onlyababa 1 year ago
@onlyababa I thought so, just wondering if you could have salvaged those aswell ;)
Thank for sharing BTW !!
startide 1 year ago
@startide originally, deeprun was meant to connect IF and Darn O.o
Trippy aye? Any other alpha questions, check this forum, prolly the coolest thread i've ever seen on MMO
xMakeThemSuffferx 1 year ago
@startide aww its not lettin me post links =/ well search the mmo forums for "some things you didnt know about wow...
xMakeThemSuffferx 1 year ago
@xMakeThemSuffferx I guess you meant MMO champion ? Google should make quick work of such search :) THX, will give it a look !
startide 1 year ago
@startide
The deeprun tram was going to Darnassus; this is also the cause why you see an underwater setting while traveling. Was changed later on ;)
Afraidofloveandpeace 1 year ago
@startide I don't know if you have been answered, but I believe the other destination of the Deeprum Tram is Gnomeregan, which was supposed to be an Alliance city as well, but they cancelled due to faction imbalance
JoaoJMatias 10 months ago
@JoaoJMatias Thanks for the reply ;)
startide 10 months ago
@startide I heard that originally the tram went from SW to Darnassus
johnnyo032003 5 months ago
@johnnyo032003 exactly what I was gonna say, it was suppost to be connected like Horde zeps connected all 3 cities. Not sure why it was cancelled and they added the boat but possibly something with zoning and a tram possibly working different then a slower boat/zepplin
LoLaCFC 4 months ago
@startide darnassus
TheRandomGuyNextDoor 1 week ago
@startide This is a little late. I know the Deeprun Tram was supposed to be from SW to darnassus.
Lighterfluids 4 days ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
this will be the new iron forge <_< blizzards just goin to update the graphics and stuff... not really original since they scraped most of the city
buba132 1 year ago
@buba132 No, it's not. This is the old version that was in the game way before it was released, available to F&F alpha clients only.
onlyababa 1 year ago
@buba132 Damn scrub, you got burnt!
Lo94s10 1 year ago
PFFF yeh right!
marcyncracy 1 year ago
hey that big dwarf statue thing is gone, it used to be right at 0:25 up against the wall!
kickbutfox 1 year ago
@kickbutfox It's the other way around : the statue was added. This version of Ironforge was made BEFORE the game was ever released 5 years ago.
startide 1 year ago
heh, i remember dopefish. I was a noggaholic too.
moonasha 1 year ago
damm i want this song wats it called ??
Edward4983 1 year ago
@Edward4983 Rob Dougan - Clubbed to Death
onlyababa 1 year ago
gawd dammm i want this song wats it called ??
Edward4983 1 year ago
whats this song called
Edward4983 1 year ago
wats this song called??
Edward4983 1 year ago
IVE BINN WAITING FOREVER TO SEE THIS ALPHA : D But I hope Tinker
Town gets atleast 3 times bigger but I can only hope ..I can only hope I:(
williammoller9 1 year ago
@williammoller9 why alliance are getting gnomer?
ulder0 1 year ago
This looks much more like a city then the ironforge we have now. They should at least have kept the second layer, i liked it :) But the great forge looks like nothing in the alpha though.
Azurea50 1 year ago
holy crap! they screwed up IF and SW!
DarkexileWoW 1 year ago
damn you those ppl who got lost in my old Ironforge!!!
gywxever 1 year ago
Lolfail.. Look at when this video was posted.
Dudedudemoney 1 year ago
@Dudedudemoney Why? What's that got to do with anything?
onlyababa 1 year ago 6
@onlyababa if it was the cata wasnt even invtented or thot of before like 2008
theMATThatter10of6 1 year ago
@theMATThatter10of6 I'm afraid I'm not following - what do you mean by this comment? I haven't played WoW since TBC. I posted this video in 2006 and, as I say, it's not my own creation. I just uploaded it.
onlyababa 1 year ago
@onlyababa Madhatter thinks this was a Cataclysm Video.. lol
robmechp 1 year ago
geez thats bigger than a raid
doubledamsu 1 year ago
Wow. Now that's something. Wish they do something with exodar.
Dremag123 1 year ago
How old is this one
They should have kept it like this way more awesome
potatoman177 1 year ago
How the fuck do you get lost in IF?! Its a big ass circle with a dot in the middle of it!
TheProjectIceman 1 year ago
The Great Forge looked nice :)
Supersomonerandom 1 year ago
blizz, get this in back
tigurius555 1 year ago
Either you're really small for a gnome or iroforge is giant.
ShadowCrashed81 1 year ago
lol omg whats wtf
¿Iron Forge? O_O!!!!!!
ODDmilenario 1 year ago
If you look at the new Grim Batol dungeon it looks like they used some of the old IF in there just more dark and smashed up
Joeygiggles3 1 year ago
Man it looked so much cooler!
Mrbiggerthanlife 1 year ago
Blizzard has consistently had to dumb down aspects of this game due the larger portion of the player base being morons. Smart business plan for sure though. I think they took a page out of Apple's book - take something smart people enjoy and package it for idiots
chaos23 1 year ago
it's fucking HUGE
Nymphe7aminE 1 year ago
Oh man, i would love to have IF like that..
drwook 1 year ago
Lol "due players getting lost in it" wtf, remember uc ?
vilestine 1 year ago
looks way better
NAWGWAY 1 year ago
this is like, an actual city... not the crap we have now
erulluvitar33 1 year ago
they should have kept it this way, its moar cool
eveningsky 1 year ago
I kinda like this version more, to me it always seemed like Ironforge was dwarfed in comparison to how i imagined it. I mean, if almost the entire dwarf race was in a mountain, I imagined a hollowed out, Epic multi-tiered city. This (while a little confusing & w/ some useless parts.) fits that more than the current "ring with a dot in the middle" city...idk but the two tiers b4 the forge and also the multiple floors appeals to me, they shud have streamlined tht idea w/o taking so much out :D
Mkeith14 1 year ago
that looks more like a city than the ironforge today
RscapeTtroop 1 year ago
This proofs that if Blizzard want to make big ass cities they can.
LarryAszune 1 year ago
song? :D
MrGavlas 1 year ago
@MrGavlas Rob Dougan - Clubbed to death
0vershade 1 year ago
@0vershade ty <3
MrGavlas 1 year ago
I think I prefer this layout. makes it seem more epic, like a proper dwarven city should be. :)
DeadlyKipper 1 year ago
Damn that version of Ironforge looks awesome. I wish they kept it that large.
TankSenior 1 year ago
beautiful
q8samba 1 year ago
i kind of like this 1 better with the extra platforms =S
babyfoxgrant 1 year ago
guys this is ALPHA THIS MEANS no npcs and other stuff which could make ironforge at the end a beautifull city....
mrgungrave100 1 year ago
awefull song... used all the time im sick of it, but nice vid :)
blobojob 1 year ago
i don't see why they changed it. sure, it was confusing, but it was alot more like a real city. now it's too basic... qq
AustinDT 1 year ago
theres alot of useless buildings that people dont even go into..but still.i liked open buildings cuz it adds to the lore.
Cryptlord91 1 year ago
Holy shit IF was cool back in the alpha!
Serdoh 2 years ago
Old Ironforge was way better than the current one.
coloreel 2 years ago
well, instead of changing the whole fuckin city, why not just shrink it a tad bit and leave it the way it was, this looked more realistic and more interesting. if the cities were more like this id play WoW till the day i die.
Farrowstrike 2 years ago 12
Wow thought it was to complicated
applefreak66 2 years ago
@applefreak66 And they left Undercity the way it is. Seriously, worst. city. ever!!
fezzverbal 1 year ago
You need to make these vids of WoW alpha more findable there awsome!
delta9knight 2 years ago 2
this is way cooler than it is now
youtubielol 2 years ago
What's the name of the song?
Teygula 2 years ago
Clubbed to Death. Part of the Matrix soundtrack.
Thebassjunk 2 years ago
THX =)
Teygula 2 years ago
that looked awesome :P
tarjeiT 2 years ago
no more wall walking /cry
DrVegie 2 years ago
i like the feel of this one better, if they made it with sort of the similar layout it has now, only make it feel more clustered and actually inside of a mountain, that would be great
capitanboots 2 years ago
it was much better¡¡
cafemm 2 years ago
That actually looks like something dwarfs would do.
CBMaster2 2 years ago
This Ironforge looks alot better, wish they had kept it. :(
AvingD28 2 years ago 33
i'd love to see the patch notes for the entire rebuild of the interior of ironforge lol.
Followthategg 2 years ago
Looks really good tbh, kinda has the industrial look to it.
Xanego 2 years ago
this looks way cooler
Noffmeistah 2 years ago 2
To be honest, that looks better.
I have never been the Ironforge person, SW for me but I would def. chill in IF if i looked like that.
Looks like an actual city! No way!
silver2zilver 2 years ago 34
You ever seen the alpha Goldshire? Looks like an actual village! No way!
mogh07 2 years ago
Zomg. I looked for videos but cant find any. You got links?
No way!
silver2zilver 2 years ago
Youtube comments won't allow links. But search on google for "wow_screen010.jpg".
mogh07 2 years ago
Fett fett fett
emory444 2 years ago 3
Reminds me of BRD.....
Diablo89 2 years ago
I kind of like it...
parrish72 2 years ago 3
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Geez, I would not want to have an Ironforge where it would be easy to get lost. Good riddance.
aigarius 2 years ago
Too much stuff in WoW is dumbed down to make it easier to traverse, but it takes away the epic feel. Bring that back to be honest!
Siorralad 2 years ago 5
I thought that version looked much better than the current one, with the exception of the Great Forge being a massive kiln for some reason.
Glyphstream 2 years ago
I can imagine it being a colossal pain to run around this version of Ironforge before you got your mount. Glad it didn't end up like this.
discolando 2 years ago
Gotta love this song. Matrix sound track, fuck yeah.
paynexkillerAOTF 2 years ago
That forge looks a lot cooler. I've seen pictures of alpha, but thank you for this video!
henhouse 2 years ago
Wow that looks a lot more interesting than IF in modern WoW. They should have kept the same build but just tweak it a little to make it less roomy.
Kassanor123 2 years ago
either gnomes were smaller or the city was HUGE
maisterileo 2 years ago
Makes it feel more like a city with all that "useless" space lying around.
gamer011010 2 years ago
aplha version is better
sniper3305 2 years ago
wow that looks better than the one now
poonaniandbotos 2 years ago 4
clubbed to dealth- nice.
Jarrasek99 2 years ago
i like alpha if way more
ZiqpY 2 years ago
where did the tram go? other than storm wind i mean
wowplayer6541011 2 years ago
Darnassus.
onlyababa 2 years ago
where is the airport???
mariotsimpith 3 years ago
It's so nice, there should supposed to been a elevator from "new" ironforge down to old ironforge, and a elevator down to Gnomeregan. But blizzard pulled it away and made this, which is ugly in comparesion with this.
chrismastere 3 years ago
ALPHA VERSION > CURRENT IF!!!
xXDarkElfX 3 years ago 6
it might look better, but it was too big, too much useless space. it was just hard to move around
Golemoid 3 years ago
This is so weird... Your recognize it, yet it's completely different.
JohnnyH87 3 years ago 2
lol it was changed cuz ppl were getting lost in it they shouldnt of changed it completly cuz thats what the maps for! :D
boradio7777777 3 years ago 2
WOW this is amazing the bit at 1:57 after looks awesome! :D
boradio7777777 3 years ago
i like the alpha IF. it looks more like a dwarf city.
DieOberbratze 3 years ago
It looks more like ,surprise, an actual city, It's more compact, IF now is so open and now that everyone has been in OL, and Northrend, IF just isnt as full as it used to be, so it's even more empty now than ever.
They should open up a few more levels of IF, if you read wowwiki theres like 8 floors, and some of them sound like the way this looks here.
Just weird.
civicguy2k 3 years ago
I remember that place, the best place ever
redtail0202 3 years ago
The Alpha version of Ironforge is a way better looking than the current one, totally basic compared to this!
raphaelbouhnik 3 years ago 4
WTB IF ALPHA. pst.
mooperton 3 years ago
Wow,blizz needs to change the way back to it was, this is completely epic.
zomfgwtfpwnt 3 years ago