Also the fact that I could see some wing chun practitioners with the mindset of more hits means more effective but no. U could learn to be powerful as well as fast thus ending the situation as fast as possible.
Guys Wing Chun is a pretty cool martial art. But it's not as practical as boxing. This is just a movie. Although Wing Chun looks cooler Boxing is much more practical and easy and much more effective. Although it depends on the person, wing chun is a lot harder to use and as you can see through the movie the boxing champion nearly killed Ip Man. Although it's just a movie don't forget that.
A supposed boxing expert wouldn't fight that stupid a boxer would set up angle attacks which seems to be a weakness in wing chun. But if it was a street fight the wing chun dude would prob just take out his knee or balls
This is just a movie , in reality a good wing chun fighter can beat a fight in few moments ..the true martial art is in your mind , not just in a good shape .
@eduxx7 Can you show any hard evidence where a Wing Chun fighter has beaten any proffesional fighter of any other style in full contact. We have many accounts of it happening but no hard evidence even Yip Man never faced off against a western boxer (although he did beat a chinese one). Still no disrespect to Wing Chun or any other style for that matter just want to see some real evidence not some story
Tamiltger13. Glad you like that. We can change the world. 1 single step at a time. I have had many students that i have seen change through learning Wing Chun because of the fantastic phylosophies and mental learning and theoretical justification. Learning wing chun is all for the greater good and can be applied in our everyday lives. Stay blessed and keep spreading the peace......wing chun peace or pieces your choice.lol
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ddmmh, your comments have just been so wrong,rude, and disgraceful to wing chun. You're ignorance and retardation doesnt even need to make me argue back. GJ blackkingoflords
Ip man tanked those hits. At least a boxers body is more conditioned to take blunt hits. I have been learning WC for 6 months and as a petite female WC was truly designed for females. Its all about soft contact and positioning your body so that you can harness the power of your enemy and use it against them. So if you are a female with no muscles, no problem! My husband who is a trained fighter spars with me and I can effectively evade and get out of his full str "hold" moves by using WC.
@xRhapsodyBluesx And what I mean by soft contact is if I don't give my opponent any power that power cannot be used against me somehow. For example if i'm throwing a punch, someone could not only evade my punch but catch my arm and use the power i put into the punch to toss me 9 feet across the floor. But the enemy on the other hand is still coming at me at full force. (I had to explain in case someone thought soft contact meant 2 people are playfully slapping each other or something)
@xRhapsodyBluesx Lol seems you havent learned alot . Wc is not a female martial art.Its defensive and offensive fight "way" designed for the street . Here in this vid as u see and maybe know most of WC hits are forbidden including his kicks after 2nd round . Wc is not created to be a sport , but a way to protect yourself from anykind of upcomming attack no matter with a weapon or no.I myself am training and its awesome . I ve tried also Kickboxing , Aikido and Karate and the best one is WC .
@ddmmh just an fyi that in my opinion and experience (and i've fought in amateur mma and san shou tournaments) wing chun can help, if executed properly. for example once, against a single leg take-down, instead of sprawling then a spladel...i've switched legs with good timing and kneed to the head. KO. but it's not about the technique, it's about understanding the principles of motion, training and practice. wing chun is good at teaching the principles of motion, with a good teacher. :)
@BlackKingOfLords Your argument is really one sided dude. Wing Chun isn't a perfect martial art. There isn't such thing. MMA isn't perfect either. What MMA means nowadays is that there are no "set" techniques. like what Bruce Lee wanted JKD to be. We study Wing Chun because we like it. That's all. It's not the style that makes a fighter superior, it's how hard he trains, his focus, and his willingness to fight. At the end of the day, an untrained guy could kill anyway if he really wanted to
@BlackKingOfLords I get what you're saying but it's only more practical if you train hard enough and in the right way. let me ask you this. what do YOU do, if you get thrown to the floor and your opponent jumps on top of you? I'm not trying to cause an argument, i'm just asking...what would YOU do?
@crazy4japan That depends on what my opponent is doing; what kind of hold he uses, if any. Particularly, because I'm a boxer, the best advantage my opponent would have is in capturing both my arms. However, there is no perfect way of doing that. Pretty much, as long as I have one arm, I'm pretty sure I can beat my opponent around enough to allow me to get back up on my feet. That's, of course, if he has beaten me up enough already.
@crazy4japan WC doesn't teach how to fight on- ground. Instead it teaches how to prevent yourself from having to fight on- ground. If you're in a situation where that happens, its not within WC's weaknesses but rather your own weakness and inexperience.
By saying that it's a stand-up martial art, he does say that unless trained, if we do go to ground...we are fucked lol. He's honest about it. I appreciate that because I know that if I am in a fight, the likelihood of going to ground is like 80% anyway. That's why I also train BJJ :). Peace
I'm a Wing Chun student. My Sifu always tells us that wing chun is primarily a "stand-up" martial art. it's not the "techniques" that make it effective, it is the directness and efficiency of the movements. it's quite hard to explain. Anyway, our Sifu insists that we do learn how to grapple and we train ground-work in a separate class. He studies BJJ and is ranking up fast, and he teaches his advanced students BJJ too. Just saying that people can learn both.
@ddmmh I watched your video and what is it that your tryna proove? that he has alot of power in a punch??? Thats real nice i stgill dont get what your point is go learn some martial arts kid these people gotta lift weights all day for power when it really doesnt take all that. Thats like me posting a video of how hard my fist are and how many bricks i can break from barely even punching it. your a waste of time.
And that style never be allowed in MMA, but the principles of the style is all the other styles mixed into one. But with horrific results. And lets see, how old is Ninjutsu then? mmm? :) Around 500 years :) Now dont come and tell me that style is also crappy and bad because its to old. Thats all for me.
@HyperStateDK The show is called fight science and ive watched them all. On the newer shows MMA dominiates it all, in scientific form with proof, they are on youtube, search 'fight science' then come talk to me. I am biased to MMA. I would say maybe .01% of the WC practioners would be even remotely effective. The entire principles of WC with the tiger claw and all that crap is outdated, we have evolved and made it better like everything else, WC is dead, simple as that
@ddmmh you are seriously a idiot and try to compare the styles to choose from which is better. How can you compare a style and then call wingchun a women sport? so a wingchun fighter that trained for years with numerous hours of training and practicing the martial arts versus a mma fighter that justgot a 1match fight experience, your telling me the mma fighter is gona win? No style is better theres only different levels
@ddmmh And i told you this so many times Most martial arts styles are not made for mma do you not Understand that?? thats like saying oh oh why arent any akido fighters in mma because it wasnt made for Mma your little tv reality show that you watch and Think is the best fighting style ever. Go take mma and fight a wingchun expert and then come tell me all the things that went wrong with you. Not even science can compare which is better.Like i said certain styles arent made for mma.You failAgain
After reading several of your posts. You seem to be the one that is biased. :)
So perfecting something through years and years of training is bad? and is crap?
Your the one who should wake up. Discovery Science channel made a program about Martial Arts where they put science into it. Lots of different styles. And i clearly remember that it was only one style who could kill a man with one single blow to the chest. Given the scenario they set up. And that style was Ninjutsu.
@HyperStateDK you should just ignore him he doesnt understand anything about martial arts the kid watches tv all day and creates a big imagination of why mma is way better then any martial arts style. There isnt a style thats better theres only different levels of training but in ddmmh mind he thinks tv is the answer to proving everything
They would all beat me since i don't practice Martial Arts ;)
But okay I might have put it wrong. I do respect all the Martial Art styles. And I do see some of the UFC shows. But apparently you dont understand me either. How can you say one style is better then the other? have you seen all scenarios?
You are trying to compare styles that can be used in MMA with an ancient way of living.
Im not talking about some dude who spent 5 years training Wing Chun.
@HyperStateDK MMA is just a commercial mainstream sport? So you are no discrediting every other martial art that holds competitions? At the end of the day you take the TV and sponsors and promotion away and you still have 2 elite athletes showcasing their skills in their martial art/s. The fact you discredit MMA shows your another WC nuthuggr. Every martial art I have respect for except for WC because they are all a bunch of little bitches who cant take the fact they have been wasting their time
@HyperStateDK BTW UFC is not a sport, its an organisation for MMA. I dont know what you find so hard to wrap your head around?? Its world champions of all martial arts competing at the highest level, yet you talk about it like its just for show, I like boxing, but if you said boxing is just a sport then fair enough, but MMA is a whole nother level, even with rules, if you take those rules/regulations away are you telling me those guys still wont kick the shit out of you??? wake up to yourself
Whoa the commotion in the comments are overwhelming. In the world of martial arts, every style has its ups and downs. Speed and skills determines the winner, so you can not say a person with knowledge over multiple martial arts is better than another with only one style better. A "perfect" martial artist or fighter is only "perfect" if he can comprehend and execute the best possible moves for specific situations. That is my learning experience in over 30 years of martial arts.
@vksmma1 wrong fight a wing chun expert out a ring because if ur gona bring up mma you already failed at everything your gona say back Wingchun is A selfdefense fighting style and most moves cannot be using in MMa thats why you only see muay thai kick boxing wrestling the same shit as always nothing else.
@Dentchi Please, tell me what moves you are talking about? Unless you mean eye gouging, pulling hair or nut shots wtf is it you are referring too? Breaking someone legs, arms etc is legal in MMA, youre allowed to do it, so tell me what is it that you think WC has thats so good you stupid little bitch
@ddmmh Alot of wing chun moves focus on the throat, going for the eyes, the crotch, the weak spots etc. Are those permitted in MMA? And MMA is a misnomer, there is no art to it.
Wing chun is Not useless Dont Underestimate just because the boxer on the video through 1-3punches at the dude and laid him out. do you honestly think like seriously think that 1-3punches would knock this guy out? Boxing gloves protects his hand and adds force taking his gloves off makes the boxer almost uselss and the only thing you have to defed your self are your punches with force behind it other then that you have no clue how to acctually defend yourself.
@ffsnameisntavailable just ignore him hes dum as hell and doesnt know anythingg but the shit he sees on tv He cant even fight himself just talks alot of shit online because thats the only place he gets to free his mind lmao ddmmh your the biggest idiot wish ip man ressurected and kicked you through a brick wall
@ffsnameisntavailable lol, learning a womans sport hahaha you should be ashamed of yourself, step up and be a real man, learn some contact sports instead of that stupid tiger claw dragon fist whatever the fuk it is garbage that never applies to real life. All the people I know who learn WC are little bitches, and im not just saying that, I got a few mates who are the 'weaker' links training WC for years, I still own them
look people as you see here at the end the boxer can only be defeated when you hit the biceps, because there is the power and strength coming from. that is making it so useless against wing chun. boxing was never meant as self defense and wing chun is meant as self defense. think about that
YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARTED IF THIS WAS A REAL FIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE RING IP MAN WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM IN TEN SECONDS WING CHUN MEANT TO KILL OR CRIPPLE FOR SELF DEFENCE NOT WEAR A OPPENENT DOWN LIKE BOXING.
@naruto209466 no you are wrong there. wing chun is meant to defend yourself against any danger, but you don't have to kill him. You can also nutralize him. what you say killing someone no that is not the way! and boxing will lose in a street fight, because it was never made for self defense only as sport. compare these two arts for street fighting is very, very stupid!! retard
@arcaniagothic2 wrong. Wing Chun is only effective in close quarters. And is not meant for ANY danger, what good is WC on the ground???(where most street fights end up) Wing chun is straight fighting with no angles, a good boxer will destory a good WC practioner. Im sick of you WC nut huggers who have no idea what they are talking about. So in face you my friend are the stupid one
@naruto209466 WC was developed for girls your like you. Its easy to learn and really not affective against anyone that knows how to fight. The only thing WC has going for it is quick straight blitzing punches. Everything else is fucking useless and only a retard would agree otherwise
@ddmmh ...sorry to dissapoint you man but nah you sound dum boxing gloves protect this guy and gives alot of impact to punches i Would know personally because i box, Boxing and wingchun are both good but you cant say wing chun is useless,1 if his gloves were off how would he defend hiself? wingchun/ almost any martial arts condtions and works on the fist meaning this guy arm would of broke dont be a dumass boxers work on forceful strikes and footworkswaying u think they know how to blockPunches?
@Dentchi Wow you are dumb, you cant even spell dumb. Gloves were added to boxing to LESSER the impact and damage, do some research dummy. You may have done 2 boxing classes but dont pretend you box because you obviously have no idea. Boxing is not all forcefull strikes either, ever heard of a jab? Man you are so dumb im not even going to waste my time.
@ddmmh TO LESSER THE IMPACT BECAUSE OF THE BONES. Your idiot go boxing and let a boxer hit you with gloves on. If you honestly think that a Jab from a boxing glove acctually hurts more then you think It just decreases the damage giving so your face doesnt get fked upless then 5seconds in a match and still Boxing gloves still give more defence if your to stupid to understand that? you cant argue with anything i say a boxer has no clue how to defend thereselves from a kick or numerous punches
@Dentchi I know a boxer gets more protection from his gloves. I dont even like boxing that much. I like MMA, wrestlers, kicboxers, JJ. Id like to see WC fighters in there... oh wait there is none because the ones that have tried have all quit like the little girls they are, you have no argument
@ddmmh and if ur to dum to still not understand wtahc the video 100 times and explain to me why the boxer had hisarms up and couldnt do asndo anything else to stop the ipman from attacking?/ in a real fight theres not gona be boxing gloves to save your arms let a black belt that takes any fighting style punch u in ur arms 1 time and come back and write a whole paragraph on why your cant move your arm/broking bone
@Dentchi LOL are you fucking serious? ITS A MOVING YOU DUMB FUCK lololol hahaha I am laughing so hard right now. You just proved how much of a retard you are hahahaha LOL too funny
@ddmmh you are seriously dum LMFAO!!!!you proved how stupid you are idiot in real life whats a boxer gona do against a wing chun expert lmao look up wingchun
@Dentchi hahah yeah, thats why you be posting hate messages on my profile, because I BURNT you ya little bitch. You aint got shit on me, you completey ignored my last comment because I OWNED you, go back to your mummys basement fool
@ddmmh and wingchun fighters dont do mma because they have moves/techniques that cannot be used You fkn idiot lmfao!! you think a wingchun dum ass is gona walk in and break somones arm,leg,neck lol sigh your to dum look up Master wong or somthing make it worth your while and keep laughing your ass off probbly sum fat fuck in the basement that watches wrestling to lmao
@Dentchi Ive seen master wong. But 99.9% arent anywhere near master wong, and hes way too old to compete in MMA. So youre telling me that MMA allows broken arms, legs etc with JJ but WC is not allowed? hahaha lmao, wrong. You need to do some more reading, there have been plenty of WC guys in MMA, but they are so shit they all lost and thats the truth, research it! You got nothing bitch, youve been owned, just shut your mouth before you look even dumber
@ddmmh Omg lmfao your dum in mma do you see anyone grabbing the arm and snapping it lmao?? naw didnt think so how bout the legs and neck? ow didnt think so i swore i only seen hugging laying on the floor punching each other back and forth in mma tho :) but nah if they broke somones bones it was by accident lmao
@Dentchi Yes, several times, do you even watch MMA u fucking retard?? You have no idea how dumb you sound, any true martial art fan knows this, youre obviously some punk ass little bitch who doesnt know what hes talking about. Most submissions are designed to break bones but people are smart and tap before it happens. Wtf is a WC fighter gonna do on a ground against a wrestler or a BJJ specialist??? Go on, tell me what they can do, nothing except get dominated. U got no idea kiddo
@ddmmh Omg your a idiot i mean seriously you must not know enough about wingchun They practice in self defense they train in almost any situation thats possible but heres how dum you are when somones ontop of you punching your face or trying to what will you do? your dum ass has no clue lets Brain storm :D!! there on top of me in a street fight 1 use ur right or left arm to block the first punch swung at you 2. you block grab the arm pull the person down 3. you can either elbow the In theFace?or
@ddmmh Or you can escape : or in a street fight u just pull the shirt down dum ass but if its a sumbmission you sound also dum because you think wingchun users dont practice in submissions???? wow ur a complete fail
@Dentchi Wow once again you ignore all the points i made because I OWNED you. WC submissions as in those shitty hand locks or the things they stole from wrestling hahaha, DUMBASS, stop wasting my time, youve been owned, just take it like the little bitch you are and stop writing back to me, you have no argument. WC was invented for WOMEN, you train a WOMEN SPORT, hahaha how fucking gay is that
@ddmmh your a fucking idiot you didnt make any points all the shit you said was useless saying and shows how stupid you are are u serious dum as fuck? wing chun stold handlocks from wrestling?? Its funy how you say its a women sport Brucelee taken wingchun and beating ass load of peoples asses is he a women or a bitch? you cant even Prove a point theres nothing you can say because you know nothing but the shit you see on tv or on movies like i said your the dummest motherfucker alive. Proven
@ddmmh How the fuck do you even compare a wrestler to a wingchun fighter?? Did you not know that theres numerous of techniques you can use to counter wrestlers but i forgot you dont know anything but the shit you see on tv or watch you reply back with Profanity like thats proving a point. What you dont know can kill you go fight a wingchun fighter and theyl show you that so called women power! :D kiddo! or just go ressurect brucelee and hell give you a demonstration
@Dentchi Are you still carrying on you little bitch. I told you I owned you, its over, give it up. Even bruce lee left your little girl martial art because he realised he didnt have a vagina like you. MMA is the ultimate proving ground where ever martial art exists except WC because its shit, thats the fact, its as simple as that, you can say whatever you want from now on I wont be replying, ive made my point, I win, you lose, deal with it
@ddmmh Wing Chun isn't crap, every martial artist and their mother knows that. In fact, without Wing Chun there wouldn't be MMA. Wing Chun was the first martial art to employ practicality in its style, every other martial art was all about kicks and flips. Bruce Lee incorporated that into his philosophy and that philosophy was adopted into MMA. So you have alot of stuff to thank Wing Chun for.
@BlackKingOfLords So the guys who do karate like machida, judo like Kim Dong-Hyun, BJJ like gracies and basically all mma fighters and many many other disciplines are what exactly?? think back to all the street fights youve seen on a night out, how many end up on the ground? about 7 out of 10, would you rather know WC then or wrestling or submit his ass with JJ? All you faggots out there hating on MMA talk shit because you never fought in your life, training and fighting are 2 different things
@ddmmh Because the ground is full of shit like broken bottles, pieces of glass and gunk. And once you are on the ground you can't defend against multiple attackers: your opponent's buddies will kick the shit out of you while you submit his ass.
@ddmmh I'm sorry but I don't care about submitting a dude, anyone can do that. I just want to defend my self, and that's all anyone should want to learn. So, in that regard, Wing Chun is far superior that MMA because its alot more practical. Here's why:
1) Wing Chun demands less from someone's physique while almost all MMA fighters are very muscle- toned. I'm skinny and don't give a crap about bulking myself up, so how would MMA help me?
@ddmmh 2) Wing Chun teaches you how to defend yourself against multiple opponents through enhancing your sense of awareness, MMA doesn't have a method for fighting multiple opponents. So, if I learn MMA, I might end up being screwed if I fought more than 2 opponents.
3) Wing Chun is very practical, cutting the fat of many martial arts including takedowns and submissions, MMA brought those back- up, even adding life- threatening techniques. I want to learn self- defense, not how to fight.
@ddmmh 4) Wing Chun applies biology and physics to simplify your body motions when attacking, MMA just adds more than what's necessary for the sake of getting maximum power from you attacks. Again, I don't want to beat my opponent, I want to defend myself.
5) Wing Chun has unique and simple training methods that improves your strength while not demanding much, MMA just uses normal training methods. So far, I haven't seen any of MMA's training methods out do WC in terms of efficiency.
@ddmmh All in all, MMA just isn't right for guys like me. I want to learn how to defend myself, not to fight. If a dude throws a punch at me, I want to learn how to block it. If he gets too close, I want to learn how to push him back. I don't care for submitting him, throwing him, or even putting his life in danger. That's the stuff for brawlers, and I'm not one. I want to learn how to defend myself practically and efficiently without having to necessarily harm my foe.
@ddmmh In that regard, MMA doesn't cut it. Its cool and I respect it alot, but there's too much waste in it that WC had tried so hard to get rid of. WC was made so that fighters would become more efficient. With that said, if it got rid of takedowns, submissions, and bone- breaking techniques, then I'm going to assume that those things aren't necessary. Which makes a good percentage of MMA unnecesarry, so why learn an art with so much baggage?
@ddmmh Now, if you are a martial artist, then I would suggest shutting up now. Any and all martial artists know to respect any and all martial arts. Even moreso, if you are mixed martial artist, you should be able to respect all martial arts. For you to say that Wing Chun sucks obviously means that you aren't a martial artist of any kind, just a fighter who thinks one art is than the other because of the way it looks.
@ddmmh By the way, considering your other posts, I really don't understand your reasoning. You say that because it was made for women, Wing Chun sucks, but from what logic dictates it should be quite the opposite. In fact, that seems quite sexist for you to say that Wing Chun sucks because its made for women. I'm guessing you're the type to think that women are weak. If so, you obviously haven't practiced martial arts at all or else you would know that trained women can kick some ass.
@BlackKingOfLords look up 'joe rogan says wing chun is ineffective'. There are some guys there who are really willing to discuss WC with you. (I'm not personally attacking you - so don't take it as one lol)
@BlackKingOfLords lol u dont know me. WC is for little bitches I can say that and whatever else I want, especially when its true. Its an un-practical outdated martial art, its a waste of time and if you think otherwise your'e retarded. In the end all I am saying is WC is at the very bottom of the martial art pool. Keep wasting your time pussy. Keep training moves you will never use, u obviously never fought for real, have a real fight then it will all make sense, it will be like a epiphany
@ddmmh I have been in a real fight, WC was the thing that saved my life. The dude was out to beat the crap out of me, a good series of chain punches did him in. He was a MMA fighter himself, so I was naturally scared sh*tless when we fought but, as a WC trainee, I had to keep my head. In the end, I barely had a scratch on me while he had a seriously bloody nose. Thank God for WC. Now if WC is crap, how come a MMA fighter lost? He was 6'3, bulky, and weighed 210lbs, I'm 6'2 and skinny at 170lbs.
@BlackKingOfLords im just supposed to believe you? Do you now how many idiots are there that take an MMA class and call themselves an MMA fighter. It takes years to become any good. 10 years of MMA vs Wing Chun, one teaches you how to fight on the ground and use all weapons of attack on your feet and grappling, another teaches you how to fight like a tiger apparently(LOL) which one wins? You can talk all the shit you want, at the end of the day MMA is evolution of all martial arts including WC
@ddmmh Wing Chun doesn't teach you how to fight like a tiger, where in the world did you hear that?
Anyways, I know he's a MMA fighter because I've sparred with him multiple times. He's been practicing for about 6 years and is basically one of the best in his class. So again, if WC is so much crap, how come I won in a fight against this guy?
@BlackKingOfLords Am i just meant to take your word for it? Some people can train all their life and they suck, its just how it is. I dont know how many times I have to tell you, MMA is taking the best from the best martial arts which equals something better, WC wasnt chosen for obvious reasons, their are many guys from WC who tried and failed, look up Shawn Obasi, so you tell me if WC is so good why does it fail? Dont say because its moves are too deadly cuz thats just retarded.
@ddmmh You do realize there's no such thing as a "best" martial art, right? For there to be a "best" martial art, all the other martial arts have to be inferior to it. So, for there to be a number of "best" martial arts, all other martial arts have to be inferior to those, and no such group of martial arts exist. No matter how much you want it to be true, MMA doesn't take the best from the best, it just emulates aspects of different ones, and if it did it well, there would be no problem with WC.
@ddmmh So, obviously, MMA is lacking in its ability to emulate martial arts into an effective system if it can't even add on a simple art like WC. WC isn't so grandeur and over- exertive that there's no way to emulate into a system like MMA. Why hasn't it worked? Because MMA teaches fighting, WC teaches self- defense, there's a difference. WC doesn't appply a vast amount of movement because its system is stance- heavy, so if you lose your stance you're screwed. So of course MMA and WC won't mix.
@ddmmh I like how every single kung fu movie comes along with a mma dipshit saying how their tv fighters can beat movie fighters. It's like get an awesome video clip to begin with, but they throw in a dancing monkey as a bonus.
@BlackKingOfLords You know it, I know it. MMA is the all round best style to practice because it is a combination of the best styles. Someone who trains JJ, karate and wrestling with some kick boxing is always going to be better then someone who just trains WC, its common sense. I only reply to all these messages on youtube because it amuses me, but hey we all know the truth. You just have to deal with it, and if you truly dont agree you are just being ignorant
@ddmmh Otherwise, if you are martial artist and you know alot about martial arts, then I don't understand your logic in placing MMA above WC and saying WC sucks. All martial artists know to never undermine any martial art, NEVER! Because it shows immaturity and would leave you up to underestimate your opponent and have your ass kicked.
Now, to leave this last bit of information, whether you believe it or not, Wing Chun was designed for street fights.
@BlackKingOfLords submissions require very little strength so to say it isnt effective is wrong. I disagree with almost all your points you made. If you dont have a ground game and get taken down your screwed. Its easy to say you can fight multiple opponents but in reality no martial art is good enough for that, including MMA or WC or anything. Its much better to dodge a punch then to block it. I know people who train in WC and they havent shown me anything impressive. MMA is more then a sport.
@ddmmh MMA is more than a sport, its a fighting method, but that's all it is. WC is not a fighting method, its a self- defense system. The difference between a fighting method and self- defense system is that the former teaches you how to harm while the latter teaches you how to defend. That's why WC and Boxing are the only martial arts I practice. Boxing is the only fighting method where I feel like I can't kill somebody and WC teaches about effectively defending yourself.
@ddmmh your a fucking idiot he never left wingchun dum ass he went to learn boxing learn your facts you sound so fucking dumb you really dont know shit mma is nothing anyone can learn that shit and is super easy and simple as fuck to learn, you never won the arguement because there was nothing you can prove you fail at everything you see and your the little bitch not knowing a thing about martial arts except the shit you see on tv come out tothe realw orld kid to find out how girly wing chun is
@ddmmh stop hiding in your basement bitch dont reply back because you cant prove anything only thing you can say is MMA! MMA! MMA! thats the only shit you know Obvoiusly and shitty fighting youl see on tv And if wingchun is a bitch fighting style guess every martial art is then. Shaolin monk vs MMa fighters if you picked mma your the dummest motherfucker alive dont see how a mma fighter could even attack a wingchun fighter because everything they do will be a counter but you dont knowanything.
@Dentchi lol i said i wouldnt reply back, but your so dumb its fun, i like owning you. Do you even know the different between training and fighting? I bet you never being in a fight you little pussy. MMA = MIXED Martial Arts, and Wing Chun is so good that NONE OF THE FIGHTERS USE IT hahahaha lol, if WC is so good you think someone would incorporate at least some of the moves right? Nope... why? Because its shit, karate, judo, wrestling, boxing, kickboxing all better sports, Again I win, you lose
@ddmmh You can't own someone just by making claims. You own someone by winning him/her in something, by being better than someone in something. BTW, when referring to yourself, it is customary in educated circles to capitalize the "i" as in "I said...". Also it is "you're so dumb" and "never been in a fight". Some fullstops and commas will also go along way of making your ramblings clearer to the rest of us.
@flubbe1 lol you question my grammar and then start a sentence with 'because'? I choose to right like this because its quick, if you are not smart enough to understand it then you are not educated as you claim you snotty little bitch. SOME wing chun moves would be illegal, MOST would not be illegal in MMA, dont try and make excuses for WC. The truth is MMA has world champions of the best martial arts, these guys are WORLD CHAMPIONS, you dont seem to understand that. WC is for little girls
@flubbe1 Dont think for a second that because WC has a long history that its good. We used to think the world was flat remember? Its called evolution, WC would of been effective a long time ago if you had a vagina like you do, but today the sport has evolved and left useless arts like WC behind, bottom line is MMA is THE BEST martial arts combined, so you take someone who knows WC against someone who knows kickboxing, wrestling and JJ and you can rest assured that little WC bitch will get owned
@ddmmh lol the wingcun fighters lost because theres to many shit they cant do in a mma match lol u seriously dont know to much thats like saying oh why did all the tiger style fighters leave!! even tho they scatched everyones faces off and made them bleed severly doesnt mean they should leave there all weak girls like wingchun! thats how dum you sound
@ddmmh Theres all types of ways to block punches not only thatyou cant match a boxer up against wingchun and just downgrade the fighting style boxing is a sport it was never actually made for self defense you cant run in and try boxing 5 opponents around you that wanaharm you your not gona punch or hit them all why? because Boxers were never trained for that type of situation fought plenty of boxers and theydont even react when i throw kicks at them meaning they never adapted to thatGoLearn more
@Dentchi No martial art will teach you to defend against 5 guys, if you can beat 5 guys then you were facing some really lame competition, I know theres videos out there etc etc but when it comes down to it there is many martial arts id rather learn then WC. The relfex of a true Karate master for example would be too fast for a WC practioner. The only way I see WC being effective is maybe in a phone booth lol, then I would be worried, apart from that WC was developed for women for a reason ;)
But! I do not know very well the story of Ip Man, but I must say that to say that with all the blows to the neck, the boxer who took the match would end in less than 1 minute.
you can be incassaroti or strong as you like but it is very difficult to maintain the concentration if you have hit vital points
@LAHrebirth even chinese know the ENTIRE body can be attacked, hence wooden dummy has arms and legs to attack
white people generally do weight lifting and focus on uppoer body as it makes you look bigger and cooler. But fighting wise if you cut someone off the legs they are useless hence the kicking game is important Chinese even call it 'lower kungfu'
if someone keeps you at arms length dont' forget arms are part of the body too and can be attacked.
@enios3 its not real dude, if it was real the boxer would be dead, they're trying to say its style vs western concepts i.e white person probably weight lifts and thus has more muscles and its harder to fight and win
yet alot of chinese seem to forget that chinese kungfu practiioners use conditioning, even just using a wooden dummy is enough to strengthen your arms and hands, one punch should fuck the white guy up
p.s how is it unfair?? boxer had gloves to block easier for his style
@TineJanic well of course since his the main character, just like we know van damme is gonna win because his the main guy in HIS movies, even though the chinese guys his usually fighting would mop the floor with him in real life.
lol the reason why wing chun isnt used in proffesional fights because gloves make it less effective, u use hard knuckles and chops to attack vitals which in turn cripple or kill the opponent, the designated strikes in wing chun are banned from mma.
great example that wing chun is useles in this time, for example the boxer is like level 40 boxing and the wing chun is like level 100 , and wing chun does still barly beat him, any way love donie yen movies
@uzamaki32 if its useless then why does bruce lee still base his modern style around it. If you can't win don't blame the style. Plus they exaggerate to make the white guy have some substance, a chop to the neck should hurt EVEN if you have big neck muscles as the main vein is there. Wingchun is scientifically designed, boxing is just throwing random punches. Also wingchun LOVES being in close quarters allowing you to block AND punch. Boxin hates being THAT close and moves away to jab
@LAHrebirth proof is when donnie comes up with the idea to attack the negative force i.e attack the punches themselves. All white people can come up with is punch, block, punch block and hope you can break through
kungfu philosphy will attack and block in any directions setting up many traps. Once you're super close you can't jab straight yet winghcun can block and attack repeatedly. Plus how is handicapping kicks make this fight fair?
Also the fact that I could see some wing chun practitioners with the mindset of more hits means more effective but no. U could learn to be powerful as well as fast thus ending the situation as fast as possible.
bobw72 9 hours ago
I dont think all those wing chun hits were necessary
bobw72 10 hours ago
if it where MMA when IP got dropped the first time he would of been finished by soccer kicks and elbows to his dome.,
myloveforMMA 10 hours ago
Guys Wing Chun is a pretty cool martial art. But it's not as practical as boxing. This is just a movie. Although Wing Chun looks cooler Boxing is much more practical and easy and much more effective. Although it depends on the person, wing chun is a lot harder to use and as you can see through the movie the boxing champion nearly killed Ip Man. Although it's just a movie don't forget that.
213Tkd 2 days ago
@213Tkd Shut up Wing chun fucks boxing .. better care, better attack, better grip, better technique ..
NinsRaw 1 day ago
A supposed boxing expert wouldn't fight that stupid a boxer would set up angle attacks which seems to be a weakness in wing chun. But if it was a street fight the wing chun dude would prob just take out his knee or balls
crookedwiretap89 5 days ago
This is just a movie , in reality a good wing chun fighter can beat a fight in few moments ..the true martial art is in your mind , not just in a good shape .
eduxx7 1 week ago
@eduxx7 Can you show any hard evidence where a Wing Chun fighter has beaten any proffesional fighter of any other style in full contact. We have many accounts of it happening but no hard evidence even Yip Man never faced off against a western boxer (although he did beat a chinese one). Still no disrespect to Wing Chun or any other style for that matter just want to see some real evidence not some story
CichlidAsh 4 days ago
People need to realise this is a fictional account of Ip Mans life.
tillerbear 1 week ago
Tamiltger13. Glad you like that. We can change the world. 1 single step at a time. I have had many students that i have seen change through learning Wing Chun because of the fantastic phylosophies and mental learning and theoretical justification. Learning wing chun is all for the greater good and can be applied in our everyday lives. Stay blessed and keep spreading the peace......wing chun peace or pieces your choice.lol
daddygungfu 1 week ago
zajebista walka :)
Avenge7ify 2 weeks ago
... Twister just got his ass handed to him
AmishCatfish 2 weeks ago
what movie is ?
pelox98 2 weeks ago
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@pelox98 again.. IP Man 2
Premonitor 2 weeks ago
@pelox98 this is ip man 2
funnyman5903 1 week ago
In real life, Ip Man defeated the boxer within' 20 seconds. ^_^
Mihatkd 2 weeks ago
ip man ftw!
Alister843 3 weeks ago
Ip Man 2
NoweFox 3 weeks ago
Wing chun fi life!
badman2205 3 weeks ago 2
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mikirou1 4 weeks ago 3
Bullshit
Karakta 4 weeks ago
what movie is this from?
sjeckske 4 weeks ago
@sjeckske ip man 2
The10TwinBrothers 3 weeks ago
@sjeckske IP Man 2
nusdogg 3 weeks ago
Ip man 2 so sweet
snitle123 4 weeks ago
sweet fight man,
Trollamollex 1 month ago
Wing chun is amazing
anykenny12 1 month ago
ddmmh, your comments have just been so wrong,rude, and disgraceful to wing chun. You're ignorance and retardation doesnt even need to make me argue back. GJ blackkingoflords
percussionko 1 month ago
@percussionko Your welcome.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
What movie is this from? Ip man?
3rdDegreeKickAss 1 month ago
@3rdDegreeKickAss exactly
kwstassketo 1 month ago
Ip man tanked those hits. At least a boxers body is more conditioned to take blunt hits. I have been learning WC for 6 months and as a petite female WC was truly designed for females. Its all about soft contact and positioning your body so that you can harness the power of your enemy and use it against them. So if you are a female with no muscles, no problem! My husband who is a trained fighter spars with me and I can effectively evade and get out of his full str "hold" moves by using WC.
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@xRhapsodyBluesx And what I mean by soft contact is if I don't give my opponent any power that power cannot be used against me somehow. For example if i'm throwing a punch, someone could not only evade my punch but catch my arm and use the power i put into the punch to toss me 9 feet across the floor. But the enemy on the other hand is still coming at me at full force. (I had to explain in case someone thought soft contact meant 2 people are playfully slapping each other or something)
xRhapsodyBluesx 1 month ago
@xRhapsodyBluesx Lol seems you havent learned alot . Wc is not a female martial art.Its defensive and offensive fight "way" designed for the street . Here in this vid as u see and maybe know most of WC hits are forbidden including his kicks after 2nd round . Wc is not created to be a sport , but a way to protect yourself from anykind of upcomming attack no matter with a weapon or no.I myself am training and its awesome . I ve tried also Kickboxing , Aikido and Karate and the best one is WC .
Tevion951 1 month ago
this video is not new... im sure it came from Ip Man... 2 i believe...
Playtoblack 1 month ago
@ddmmh just an fyi that in my opinion and experience (and i've fought in amateur mma and san shou tournaments) wing chun can help, if executed properly. for example once, against a single leg take-down, instead of sprawling then a spladel...i've switched legs with good timing and kneed to the head. KO. but it's not about the technique, it's about understanding the principles of motion, training and practice. wing chun is good at teaching the principles of motion, with a good teacher. :)
crazy4japan 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords Your argument is really one sided dude. Wing Chun isn't a perfect martial art. There isn't such thing. MMA isn't perfect either. What MMA means nowadays is that there are no "set" techniques. like what Bruce Lee wanted JKD to be. We study Wing Chun because we like it. That's all. It's not the style that makes a fighter superior, it's how hard he trains, his focus, and his willingness to fight. At the end of the day, an untrained guy could kill anyway if he really wanted to
crazy4japan 1 month ago
@crazy4japan I'm not saying its perfect, I'm saying I would prefer it over MMA because its more simplistic and practical as opposed to MMA.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords I get what you're saying but it's only more practical if you train hard enough and in the right way. let me ask you this. what do YOU do, if you get thrown to the floor and your opponent jumps on top of you? I'm not trying to cause an argument, i'm just asking...what would YOU do?
crazy4japan 1 month ago
@crazy4japan That depends on what my opponent is doing; what kind of hold he uses, if any. Particularly, because I'm a boxer, the best advantage my opponent would have is in capturing both my arms. However, there is no perfect way of doing that. Pretty much, as long as I have one arm, I'm pretty sure I can beat my opponent around enough to allow me to get back up on my feet. That's, of course, if he has beaten me up enough already.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@crazy4japan WC doesn't teach how to fight on- ground. Instead it teaches how to prevent yourself from having to fight on- ground. If you're in a situation where that happens, its not within WC's weaknesses but rather your own weakness and inexperience.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
By saying that it's a stand-up martial art, he does say that unless trained, if we do go to ground...we are fucked lol. He's honest about it. I appreciate that because I know that if I am in a fight, the likelihood of going to ground is like 80% anyway. That's why I also train BJJ :). Peace
crazy4japan 1 month ago
I'm a Wing Chun student. My Sifu always tells us that wing chun is primarily a "stand-up" martial art. it's not the "techniques" that make it effective, it is the directness and efficiency of the movements. it's quite hard to explain. Anyway, our Sifu insists that we do learn how to grapple and we train ground-work in a separate class. He studies BJJ and is ranking up fast, and he teaches his advanced students BJJ too. Just saying that people can learn both.
crazy4japan 1 month ago
thats not just any wing chun expert... thats ip man!
azam987654321 1 month ago
good scenography thats very intersting to see
angel31G 1 month ago
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naruto209466 1 month ago
enrealida esta pelea existio?
malaszuk 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
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Watch and learn WC bitches watch and learn, and thats from a wrestler, imagine what a K1 Champ like Alistair Overeem would do
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh I watched your video and what is it that your tryna proove? that he has alot of power in a punch??? Thats real nice i stgill dont get what your point is go learn some martial arts kid these people gotta lift weights all day for power when it really doesnt take all that. Thats like me posting a video of how hard my fist are and how many bricks i can break from barely even punching it. your a waste of time.
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh
And that style never be allowed in MMA, but the principles of the style is all the other styles mixed into one. But with horrific results. And lets see, how old is Ninjutsu then? mmm? :) Around 500 years :) Now dont come and tell me that style is also crappy and bad because its to old. Thats all for me.
HyperStateDK 1 month ago
@HyperStateDK The show is called fight science and ive watched them all. On the newer shows MMA dominiates it all, in scientific form with proof, they are on youtube, search 'fight science' then come talk to me. I am biased to MMA. I would say maybe .01% of the WC practioners would be even remotely effective. The entire principles of WC with the tiger claw and all that crap is outdated, we have evolved and made it better like everything else, WC is dead, simple as that
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh you are seriously a idiot and try to compare the styles to choose from which is better. How can you compare a style and then call wingchun a women sport? so a wingchun fighter that trained for years with numerous hours of training and practicing the martial arts versus a mma fighter that justgot a 1match fight experience, your telling me the mma fighter is gona win? No style is better theres only different levels
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh And i told you this so many times Most martial arts styles are not made for mma do you not Understand that?? thats like saying oh oh why arent any akido fighters in mma because it wasnt made for Mma your little tv reality show that you watch and Think is the best fighting style ever. Go take mma and fight a wingchun expert and then come tell me all the things that went wrong with you. Not even science can compare which is better.Like i said certain styles arent made for mma.You failAgain
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh
After reading several of your posts. You seem to be the one that is biased. :)
So perfecting something through years and years of training is bad? and is crap?
Your the one who should wake up. Discovery Science channel made a program about Martial Arts where they put science into it. Lots of different styles. And i clearly remember that it was only one style who could kill a man with one single blow to the chest. Given the scenario they set up. And that style was Ninjutsu.
HyperStateDK 1 month ago
@HyperStateDK you should just ignore him he doesnt understand anything about martial arts the kid watches tv all day and creates a big imagination of why mma is way better then any martial arts style. There isnt a style thats better theres only different levels of training but in ddmmh mind he thinks tv is the answer to proving everything
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh
They would all beat me since i don't practice Martial Arts ;)
But okay I might have put it wrong. I do respect all the Martial Art styles. And I do see some of the UFC shows. But apparently you dont understand me either. How can you say one style is better then the other? have you seen all scenarios?
You are trying to compare styles that can be used in MMA with an ancient way of living.
Im not talking about some dude who spent 5 years training Wing Chun.
You CANNOT compare it thats a fact
HyperStateDK 1 month ago
Why on earth compare an effective defence system with MMA witch is a sport..
Peeps comeon.. 80% of the techniques in WC/VT arent even allowed in MMA.
Drop the comparison.
WC/VT is so many things. A good defence system for the average people and a life style for other.
MMA and what it includes is just a commercial mainstream sport!
There is alot of videos around the net that explains why Kung Fu and its styles cant be used in sport events like MMA / UFC.
Its two different worlds..
HyperStateDK 1 month ago
@HyperStateDK MMA is just a commercial mainstream sport? So you are no discrediting every other martial art that holds competitions? At the end of the day you take the TV and sponsors and promotion away and you still have 2 elite athletes showcasing their skills in their martial art/s. The fact you discredit MMA shows your another WC nuthuggr. Every martial art I have respect for except for WC because they are all a bunch of little bitches who cant take the fact they have been wasting their time
ddmmh 1 month ago
@HyperStateDK BTW UFC is not a sport, its an organisation for MMA. I dont know what you find so hard to wrap your head around?? Its world champions of all martial arts competing at the highest level, yet you talk about it like its just for show, I like boxing, but if you said boxing is just a sport then fair enough, but MMA is a whole nother level, even with rules, if you take those rules/regulations away are you telling me those guys still wont kick the shit out of you??? wake up to yourself
ddmmh 1 month ago
Whoa the commotion in the comments are overwhelming. In the world of martial arts, every style has its ups and downs. Speed and skills determines the winner, so you can not say a person with knowledge over multiple martial arts is better than another with only one style better. A "perfect" martial artist or fighter is only "perfect" if he can comprehend and execute the best possible moves for specific situations. That is my learning experience in over 30 years of martial arts.
funmore556 1 month ago
y take kicking out why not punching
apimpnameslipback1 1 month ago
wing chun win only in the movies!!!Lol
vksmma1 1 month ago
@vksmma1 wrong fight a wing chun expert out a ring because if ur gona bring up mma you already failed at everything your gona say back Wingchun is A selfdefense fighting style and most moves cannot be using in MMa thats why you only see muay thai kick boxing wrestling the same shit as always nothing else.
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi Please, tell me what moves you are talking about? Unless you mean eye gouging, pulling hair or nut shots wtf is it you are referring too? Breaking someone legs, arms etc is legal in MMA, youre allowed to do it, so tell me what is it that you think WC has thats so good you stupid little bitch
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh Alot of wing chun moves focus on the throat, going for the eyes, the crotch, the weak spots etc. Are those permitted in MMA? And MMA is a misnomer, there is no art to it.
flubbe1 1 month ago
ip man would fuck this niggaa up .... is this ip man 2?
LSBkings913 1 month ago
oh, Ip man (thumbs up) legend.
gogohookz 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
this boxing guy has zero boxing form
stephenlleeds 1 month ago
Wing chun is Not useless Dont Underestimate just because the boxer on the video through 1-3punches at the dude and laid him out. do you honestly think like seriously think that 1-3punches would knock this guy out? Boxing gloves protects his hand and adds force taking his gloves off makes the boxer almost uselss and the only thing you have to defed your self are your punches with force behind it other then that you have no clue how to acctually defend yourself.
Dentchi 1 month ago
Shawn Obasic is one of the best WC practioners out there. Just to prove how useless WC really is watch this video watch?v=9_3F6Zwbp9E
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh dont talk about things you dont know anything about, little kid.
ffsnameisntavailable 1 month ago
@ffsnameisntavailable just ignore him hes dum as hell and doesnt know anythingg but the shit he sees on tv He cant even fight himself just talks alot of shit online because thats the only place he gets to free his mind lmao ddmmh your the biggest idiot wish ip man ressurected and kicked you through a brick wall
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ffsnameisntavailable lol, learning a womans sport hahaha you should be ashamed of yourself, step up and be a real man, learn some contact sports instead of that stupid tiger claw dragon fist whatever the fuk it is garbage that never applies to real life. All the people I know who learn WC are little bitches, and im not just saying that, I got a few mates who are the 'weaker' links training WC for years, I still own them
ddmmh 1 month ago
look people as you see here at the end the boxer can only be defeated when you hit the biceps, because there is the power and strength coming from. that is making it so useless against wing chun. boxing was never meant as self defense and wing chun is meant as self defense. think about that
arcaniagothic2 1 month ago 2
saw 'til 0:52, lolled, wrote comment and closed Firefox :)
SubzeroedMind 1 month ago
YOU GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARTED IF THIS WAS A REAL FIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE RING IP MAN WOULD HAVE KILLED HIM IN TEN SECONDS WING CHUN MEANT TO KILL OR CRIPPLE FOR SELF DEFENCE NOT WEAR A OPPENENT DOWN LIKE BOXING.
naruto209466 2 months ago
@naruto209466 no you are wrong there. wing chun is meant to defend yourself against any danger, but you don't have to kill him. You can also nutralize him. what you say killing someone no that is not the way! and boxing will lose in a street fight, because it was never made for self defense only as sport. compare these two arts for street fighting is very, very stupid!! retard
arcaniagothic2 1 month ago
@arcaniagothic2 wrong. Wing Chun is only effective in close quarters. And is not meant for ANY danger, what good is WC on the ground???(where most street fights end up) Wing chun is straight fighting with no angles, a good boxer will destory a good WC practioner. Im sick of you WC nut huggers who have no idea what they are talking about. So in face you my friend are the stupid one
ddmmh 1 month ago
@naruto209466 WC was developed for girls your like you. Its easy to learn and really not affective against anyone that knows how to fight. The only thing WC has going for it is quick straight blitzing punches. Everything else is fucking useless and only a retard would agree otherwise
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh ...sorry to dissapoint you man but nah you sound dum boxing gloves protect this guy and gives alot of impact to punches i Would know personally because i box, Boxing and wingchun are both good but you cant say wing chun is useless,1 if his gloves were off how would he defend hiself? wingchun/ almost any martial arts condtions and works on the fist meaning this guy arm would of broke dont be a dumass boxers work on forceful strikes and footworkswaying u think they know how to blockPunches?
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi Wow you are dumb, you cant even spell dumb. Gloves were added to boxing to LESSER the impact and damage, do some research dummy. You may have done 2 boxing classes but dont pretend you box because you obviously have no idea. Boxing is not all forcefull strikes either, ever heard of a jab? Man you are so dumb im not even going to waste my time.
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh TO LESSER THE IMPACT BECAUSE OF THE BONES. Your idiot go boxing and let a boxer hit you with gloves on. If you honestly think that a Jab from a boxing glove acctually hurts more then you think It just decreases the damage giving so your face doesnt get fked upless then 5seconds in a match and still Boxing gloves still give more defence if your to stupid to understand that? you cant argue with anything i say a boxer has no clue how to defend thereselves from a kick or numerous punches
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi I know a boxer gets more protection from his gloves. I dont even like boxing that much. I like MMA, wrestlers, kicboxers, JJ. Id like to see WC fighters in there... oh wait there is none because the ones that have tried have all quit like the little girls they are, you have no argument
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh and if ur to dum to still not understand wtahc the video 100 times and explain to me why the boxer had hisarms up and couldnt do asndo anything else to stop the ipman from attacking?/ in a real fight theres not gona be boxing gloves to save your arms let a black belt that takes any fighting style punch u in ur arms 1 time and come back and write a whole paragraph on why your cant move your arm/broking bone
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi LOL are you fucking serious? ITS A MOVING YOU DUMB FUCK lololol hahaha I am laughing so hard right now. You just proved how much of a retard you are hahahaha LOL too funny
ddmmh 1 month ago
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ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh you are seriously dum LMFAO!!!!you proved how stupid you are idiot in real life whats a boxer gona do against a wing chun expert lmao look up wingchun
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi hahah yeah, thats why you be posting hate messages on my profile, because I BURNT you ya little bitch. You aint got shit on me, you completey ignored my last comment because I OWNED you, go back to your mummys basement fool
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh and wingchun fighters dont do mma because they have moves/techniques that cannot be used You fkn idiot lmfao!! you think a wingchun dum ass is gona walk in and break somones arm,leg,neck lol sigh your to dum look up Master wong or somthing make it worth your while and keep laughing your ass off probbly sum fat fuck in the basement that watches wrestling to lmao
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi Ive seen master wong. But 99.9% arent anywhere near master wong, and hes way too old to compete in MMA. So youre telling me that MMA allows broken arms, legs etc with JJ but WC is not allowed? hahaha lmao, wrong. You need to do some more reading, there have been plenty of WC guys in MMA, but they are so shit they all lost and thats the truth, research it! You got nothing bitch, youve been owned, just shut your mouth before you look even dumber
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh Omg lmfao your dum in mma do you see anyone grabbing the arm and snapping it lmao?? naw didnt think so how bout the legs and neck? ow didnt think so i swore i only seen hugging laying on the floor punching each other back and forth in mma tho :) but nah if they broke somones bones it was by accident lmao
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi Yes, several times, do you even watch MMA u fucking retard?? You have no idea how dumb you sound, any true martial art fan knows this, youre obviously some punk ass little bitch who doesnt know what hes talking about. Most submissions are designed to break bones but people are smart and tap before it happens. Wtf is a WC fighter gonna do on a ground against a wrestler or a BJJ specialist??? Go on, tell me what they can do, nothing except get dominated. U got no idea kiddo
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh /watch?v=D9L5vr3HKdE - that is ALL
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh Omg your a idiot i mean seriously you must not know enough about wingchun They practice in self defense they train in almost any situation thats possible but heres how dum you are when somones ontop of you punching your face or trying to what will you do? your dum ass has no clue lets Brain storm :D!! there on top of me in a street fight 1 use ur right or left arm to block the first punch swung at you 2. you block grab the arm pull the person down 3. you can either elbow the In theFace?or
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh Or you can escape : or in a street fight u just pull the shirt down dum ass but if its a sumbmission you sound also dum because you think wingchun users dont practice in submissions???? wow ur a complete fail
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi Wow once again you ignore all the points i made because I OWNED you. WC submissions as in those shitty hand locks or the things they stole from wrestling hahaha, DUMBASS, stop wasting my time, youve been owned, just take it like the little bitch you are and stop writing back to me, you have no argument. WC was invented for WOMEN, you train a WOMEN SPORT, hahaha how fucking gay is that
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh your a fucking idiot you didnt make any points all the shit you said was useless saying and shows how stupid you are are u serious dum as fuck? wing chun stold handlocks from wrestling?? Its funy how you say its a women sport Brucelee taken wingchun and beating ass load of peoples asses is he a women or a bitch? you cant even Prove a point theres nothing you can say because you know nothing but the shit you see on tv or on movies like i said your the dummest motherfucker alive. Proven
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh How the fuck do you even compare a wrestler to a wingchun fighter?? Did you not know that theres numerous of techniques you can use to counter wrestlers but i forgot you dont know anything but the shit you see on tv or watch you reply back with Profanity like thats proving a point. What you dont know can kill you go fight a wingchun fighter and theyl show you that so called women power! :D kiddo! or just go ressurect brucelee and hell give you a demonstration
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi Are you still carrying on you little bitch. I told you I owned you, its over, give it up. Even bruce lee left your little girl martial art because he realised he didnt have a vagina like you. MMA is the ultimate proving ground where ever martial art exists except WC because its shit, thats the fact, its as simple as that, you can say whatever you want from now on I wont be replying, ive made my point, I win, you lose, deal with it
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh lol mma<---- nuff said
stephenlleeds 1 month ago
@stephenlleeds Dont be jelous
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh Wing Chun isn't crap, every martial artist and their mother knows that. In fact, without Wing Chun there wouldn't be MMA. Wing Chun was the first martial art to employ practicality in its style, every other martial art was all about kicks and flips. Bruce Lee incorporated that into his philosophy and that philosophy was adopted into MMA. So you have alot of stuff to thank Wing Chun for.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords So the guys who do karate like machida, judo like Kim Dong-Hyun, BJJ like gracies and basically all mma fighters and many many other disciplines are what exactly?? think back to all the street fights youve seen on a night out, how many end up on the ground? about 7 out of 10, would you rather know WC then or wrestling or submit his ass with JJ? All you faggots out there hating on MMA talk shit because you never fought in your life, training and fighting are 2 different things
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh Because the ground is full of shit like broken bottles, pieces of glass and gunk. And once you are on the ground you can't defend against multiple attackers: your opponent's buddies will kick the shit out of you while you submit his ass.
flubbe1 1 month ago
@ddmmh I'm sorry but I don't care about submitting a dude, anyone can do that. I just want to defend my self, and that's all anyone should want to learn. So, in that regard, Wing Chun is far superior that MMA because its alot more practical. Here's why:
1) Wing Chun demands less from someone's physique while almost all MMA fighters are very muscle- toned. I'm skinny and don't give a crap about bulking myself up, so how would MMA help me?
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh 2) Wing Chun teaches you how to defend yourself against multiple opponents through enhancing your sense of awareness, MMA doesn't have a method for fighting multiple opponents. So, if I learn MMA, I might end up being screwed if I fought more than 2 opponents.
3) Wing Chun is very practical, cutting the fat of many martial arts including takedowns and submissions, MMA brought those back- up, even adding life- threatening techniques. I want to learn self- defense, not how to fight.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh 4) Wing Chun applies biology and physics to simplify your body motions when attacking, MMA just adds more than what's necessary for the sake of getting maximum power from you attacks. Again, I don't want to beat my opponent, I want to defend myself.
5) Wing Chun has unique and simple training methods that improves your strength while not demanding much, MMA just uses normal training methods. So far, I haven't seen any of MMA's training methods out do WC in terms of efficiency.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh All in all, MMA just isn't right for guys like me. I want to learn how to defend myself, not to fight. If a dude throws a punch at me, I want to learn how to block it. If he gets too close, I want to learn how to push him back. I don't care for submitting him, throwing him, or even putting his life in danger. That's the stuff for brawlers, and I'm not one. I want to learn how to defend myself practically and efficiently without having to necessarily harm my foe.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh In that regard, MMA doesn't cut it. Its cool and I respect it alot, but there's too much waste in it that WC had tried so hard to get rid of. WC was made so that fighters would become more efficient. With that said, if it got rid of takedowns, submissions, and bone- breaking techniques, then I'm going to assume that those things aren't necessary. Which makes a good percentage of MMA unnecesarry, so why learn an art with so much baggage?
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh Now, if you are a martial artist, then I would suggest shutting up now. Any and all martial artists know to respect any and all martial arts. Even moreso, if you are mixed martial artist, you should be able to respect all martial arts. For you to say that Wing Chun sucks obviously means that you aren't a martial artist of any kind, just a fighter who thinks one art is than the other because of the way it looks.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh By the way, considering your other posts, I really don't understand your reasoning. You say that because it was made for women, Wing Chun sucks, but from what logic dictates it should be quite the opposite. In fact, that seems quite sexist for you to say that Wing Chun sucks because its made for women. I'm guessing you're the type to think that women are weak. If so, you obviously haven't practiced martial arts at all or else you would know that trained women can kick some ass.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords look up 'joe rogan says wing chun is ineffective'. There are some guys there who are really willing to discuss WC with you. (I'm not personally attacking you - so don't take it as one lol)
TheRavensApprentice 1 month ago
@TheRavensApprentice Don't worry, I'm not taking it that way :D. I'll check it out.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords lol u dont know me. WC is for little bitches I can say that and whatever else I want, especially when its true. Its an un-practical outdated martial art, its a waste of time and if you think otherwise your'e retarded. In the end all I am saying is WC is at the very bottom of the martial art pool. Keep wasting your time pussy. Keep training moves you will never use, u obviously never fought for real, have a real fight then it will all make sense, it will be like a epiphany
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh I have been in a real fight, WC was the thing that saved my life. The dude was out to beat the crap out of me, a good series of chain punches did him in. He was a MMA fighter himself, so I was naturally scared sh*tless when we fought but, as a WC trainee, I had to keep my head. In the end, I barely had a scratch on me while he had a seriously bloody nose. Thank God for WC. Now if WC is crap, how come a MMA fighter lost? He was 6'3, bulky, and weighed 210lbs, I'm 6'2 and skinny at 170lbs.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords im just supposed to believe you? Do you now how many idiots are there that take an MMA class and call themselves an MMA fighter. It takes years to become any good. 10 years of MMA vs Wing Chun, one teaches you how to fight on the ground and use all weapons of attack on your feet and grappling, another teaches you how to fight like a tiger apparently(LOL) which one wins? You can talk all the shit you want, at the end of the day MMA is evolution of all martial arts including WC
ddmmh 1 month ago
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ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh Wing Chun doesn't teach you how to fight like a tiger, where in the world did you hear that?
Anyways, I know he's a MMA fighter because I've sparred with him multiple times. He's been practicing for about 6 years and is basically one of the best in his class. So again, if WC is so much crap, how come I won in a fight against this guy?
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords Am i just meant to take your word for it? Some people can train all their life and they suck, its just how it is. I dont know how many times I have to tell you, MMA is taking the best from the best martial arts which equals something better, WC wasnt chosen for obvious reasons, their are many guys from WC who tried and failed, look up Shawn Obasi, so you tell me if WC is so good why does it fail? Dont say because its moves are too deadly cuz thats just retarded.
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh You do realize there's no such thing as a "best" martial art, right? For there to be a "best" martial art, all the other martial arts have to be inferior to it. So, for there to be a number of "best" martial arts, all other martial arts have to be inferior to those, and no such group of martial arts exist. No matter how much you want it to be true, MMA doesn't take the best from the best, it just emulates aspects of different ones, and if it did it well, there would be no problem with WC.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh So, obviously, MMA is lacking in its ability to emulate martial arts into an effective system if it can't even add on a simple art like WC. WC isn't so grandeur and over- exertive that there's no way to emulate into a system like MMA. Why hasn't it worked? Because MMA teaches fighting, WC teaches self- defense, there's a difference. WC doesn't appply a vast amount of movement because its system is stance- heavy, so if you lose your stance you're screwed. So of course MMA and WC won't mix.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@ddmmh I like how every single kung fu movie comes along with a mma dipshit saying how their tv fighters can beat movie fighters. It's like get an awesome video clip to begin with, but they throw in a dancing monkey as a bonus.
DrillKing1 1 week ago
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@BlackKingOfLords You know it, I know it. MMA is the all round best style to practice because it is a combination of the best styles. Someone who trains JJ, karate and wrestling with some kick boxing is always going to be better then someone who just trains WC, its common sense. I only reply to all these messages on youtube because it amuses me, but hey we all know the truth. You just have to deal with it, and if you truly dont agree you are just being ignorant
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh Otherwise, if you are martial artist and you know alot about martial arts, then I don't understand your logic in placing MMA above WC and saying WC sucks. All martial artists know to never undermine any martial art, NEVER! Because it shows immaturity and would leave you up to underestimate your opponent and have your ass kicked.
Now, to leave this last bit of information, whether you believe it or not, Wing Chun was designed for street fights.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
@BlackKingOfLords submissions require very little strength so to say it isnt effective is wrong. I disagree with almost all your points you made. If you dont have a ground game and get taken down your screwed. Its easy to say you can fight multiple opponents but in reality no martial art is good enough for that, including MMA or WC or anything. Its much better to dodge a punch then to block it. I know people who train in WC and they havent shown me anything impressive. MMA is more then a sport.
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh MMA is more than a sport, its a fighting method, but that's all it is. WC is not a fighting method, its a self- defense system. The difference between a fighting method and self- defense system is that the former teaches you how to harm while the latter teaches you how to defend. That's why WC and Boxing are the only martial arts I practice. Boxing is the only fighting method where I feel like I can't kill somebody and WC teaches about effectively defending yourself.
BlackKingOfLords 1 month ago
BlackKingOfLords verbally chainpunched ddmmh out of the ring.
Spydercocaine 1 month ago
@ddmmh your a fucking idiot he never left wingchun dum ass he went to learn boxing learn your facts you sound so fucking dumb you really dont know shit mma is nothing anyone can learn that shit and is super easy and simple as fuck to learn, you never won the arguement because there was nothing you can prove you fail at everything you see and your the little bitch not knowing a thing about martial arts except the shit you see on tv come out tothe realw orld kid to find out how girly wing chun is
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh stop hiding in your basement bitch dont reply back because you cant prove anything only thing you can say is MMA! MMA! MMA! thats the only shit you know Obvoiusly and shitty fighting youl see on tv And if wingchun is a bitch fighting style guess every martial art is then. Shaolin monk vs MMa fighters if you picked mma your the dummest motherfucker alive dont see how a mma fighter could even attack a wingchun fighter because everything they do will be a counter but you dont knowanything.
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi lol i said i wouldnt reply back, but your so dumb its fun, i like owning you. Do you even know the different between training and fighting? I bet you never being in a fight you little pussy. MMA = MIXED Martial Arts, and Wing Chun is so good that NONE OF THE FIGHTERS USE IT hahahaha lol, if WC is so good you think someone would incorporate at least some of the moves right? Nope... why? Because its shit, karate, judo, wrestling, boxing, kickboxing all better sports, Again I win, you lose
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh You can't own someone just by making claims. You own someone by winning him/her in something, by being better than someone in something. BTW, when referring to yourself, it is customary in educated circles to capitalize the "i" as in "I said...". Also it is "you're so dumb" and "never been in a fight". Some fullstops and commas will also go along way of making your ramblings clearer to the rest of us.
flubbe1 1 month ago
@flubbe1 lol you question my grammar and then start a sentence with 'because'? I choose to right like this because its quick, if you are not smart enough to understand it then you are not educated as you claim you snotty little bitch. SOME wing chun moves would be illegal, MOST would not be illegal in MMA, dont try and make excuses for WC. The truth is MMA has world champions of the best martial arts, these guys are WORLD CHAMPIONS, you dont seem to understand that. WC is for little girls
ddmmh 1 month ago
@flubbe1 Dont think for a second that because WC has a long history that its good. We used to think the world was flat remember? Its called evolution, WC would of been effective a long time ago if you had a vagina like you do, but today the sport has evolved and left useless arts like WC behind, bottom line is MMA is THE BEST martial arts combined, so you take someone who knows WC against someone who knows kickboxing, wrestling and JJ and you can rest assured that little WC bitch will get owned
ddmmh 1 month ago
@ddmmh lol the wingcun fighters lost because theres to many shit they cant do in a mma match lol u seriously dont know to much thats like saying oh why did all the tiger style fighters leave!! even tho they scatched everyones faces off and made them bleed severly doesnt mean they should leave there all weak girls like wingchun! thats how dum you sound
Dentchi 1 month ago
@ddmmh Theres all types of ways to block punches not only thatyou cant match a boxer up against wingchun and just downgrade the fighting style boxing is a sport it was never actually made for self defense you cant run in and try boxing 5 opponents around you that wanaharm you your not gona punch or hit them all why? because Boxers were never trained for that type of situation fought plenty of boxers and theydont even react when i throw kicks at them meaning they never adapted to thatGoLearn more
Dentchi 1 month ago
@Dentchi No martial art will teach you to defend against 5 guys, if you can beat 5 guys then you were facing some really lame competition, I know theres videos out there etc etc but when it comes down to it there is many martial arts id rather learn then WC. The relfex of a true Karate master for example would be too fast for a WC practioner. The only way I see WC being effective is maybe in a phone booth lol, then I would be worried, apart from that WC was developed for women for a reason ;)
ddmmh 1 month ago
im man is the movie but idk which movie it is
SuperFishingmaster 2 months ago
tap tap... HELLO.... tap tap.... HELLO! IT'S A FILM!!!
Wing Chun is the most useless pile of nonsense ever. Find one clip of wing chun beating a skilled boxer.
wingchunisforhomos 2 months ago
That Movie is the IP MAN 2 fucking nigga, y eso es boxeo occidental puto aprende mas
JackSuper29 2 months ago
But! I do not know very well the story of Ip Man, but I must say that to say that with all the blows to the neck, the boxer who took the match would end in less than 1 minute.
you can be incassaroti or strong as you like but it is very difficult to maintain the concentration if you have hit vital points
MrAndrehawk 2 months ago
Great scene. But pretty stupid that they have the boxing guy wearing gloves. That would be a huge disadvantage.
vbroskas 2 months ago
@vbroskas Boxers are wearing gloves mainly to protect their knuckles. Not to protect the oppontent.
hopufi 2 months ago
@hopufi it's still an disadvantage. You can punch harder with your bare knuckles than with boxing gloves.
Daman128472 2 months ago
@vbroskas
You're retarded. Boxing gloves protect the white guys fists, they block better, and have greater impact area when punching. You're a fuckin dumbass.
BTNH24 2 months ago
minuto 2:05 ip man hace low kick con la pierna izquierda y luego con la derecha
negvich 2 months ago
if anyone wonders which is a better style (and yes i know the user determines if you win or not, not always the style) kungfu is
it existed thounsands of years before white people knew what fisty cuff was
go to a self defence or sports store, they have those famous 'blue dummies' that were made in the mid 90's. They are ONLY upper body.
if someone has a longer reach and you're small you can attack the arms
LAHrebirth 2 months ago
@LAHrebirth even chinese know the ENTIRE body can be attacked, hence wooden dummy has arms and legs to attack
white people generally do weight lifting and focus on uppoer body as it makes you look bigger and cooler. But fighting wise if you cut someone off the legs they are useless hence the kicking game is important Chinese even call it 'lower kungfu'
if someone keeps you at arms length dont' forget arms are part of the body too and can be attacked.
LAHrebirth 2 months ago
@LAHrebirth All westerners do is focus on the upper assault on the body hence they lose
LAHrebirth 2 months ago
The boxer should have removed his gloves, that fight was unfair
enios3 2 months ago
@enios3 its not real dude, if it was real the boxer would be dead, they're trying to say its style vs western concepts i.e white person probably weight lifts and thus has more muscles and its harder to fight and win
yet alot of chinese seem to forget that chinese kungfu practiioners use conditioning, even just using a wooden dummy is enough to strengthen your arms and hands, one punch should fuck the white guy up
p.s how is it unfair?? boxer had gloves to block easier for his style
LAHrebirth 2 months ago
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enios3 2 months ago
i knew that the wing chun guy was gonna win all along even though it didn`t seem like it!
TineJanic 2 months ago
@TineJanic well of course since his the main character, just like we know van damme is gonna win because his the main guy in HIS movies, even though the chinese guys his usually fighting would mop the floor with him in real life.
LAHrebirth 2 months ago
ip man 2-awesome movie
BiscuitFever 2 months ago
Holy shit lol
MrSkaterchris2 2 months ago
This movie had some of the funniest western extras EVER.
engenuine 2 months ago
lol the reason why wing chun isnt used in proffesional fights because gloves make it less effective, u use hard knuckles and chops to attack vitals which in turn cripple or kill the opponent, the designated strikes in wing chun are banned from mma.
MrMoea92 2 months ago
great example that wing chun is useles in this time, for example the boxer is like level 40 boxing and the wing chun is like level 100 , and wing chun does still barly beat him, any way love donie yen movies
uzamaki32 2 months ago
@uzamaki32 if its useless then why does bruce lee still base his modern style around it. If you can't win don't blame the style. Plus they exaggerate to make the white guy have some substance, a chop to the neck should hurt EVEN if you have big neck muscles as the main vein is there. Wingchun is scientifically designed, boxing is just throwing random punches. Also wingchun LOVES being in close quarters allowing you to block AND punch. Boxin hates being THAT close and moves away to jab
LAHrebirth 2 months ago
@LAHrebirth proof is when donnie comes up with the idea to attack the negative force i.e attack the punches themselves. All white people can come up with is punch, block, punch block and hope you can break through
kungfu philosphy will attack and block in any directions setting up many traps. Once you're super close you can't jab straight yet winghcun can block and attack repeatedly. Plus how is handicapping kicks make this fight fair?
LAHrebirth 2 months ago
<3 ip man 2
aaindahouse 2 months ago
Yeah I got a fighting style to its called shootem
Skr6010 2 months ago