Oh, for the love of Pete. Thermite is not explosive, produces almost no gas. All you get is a very hot molten slag and a few sparks. Moreover, the poster has no idea of the difference between detonation, explosion and deflagration. I wonder how a government that represents this kind of persons can be smart enough to cheat anyone.
YES YOU ARE RIGHT THIS WAS A INSIDE JOB. IT HAS DONE BEFORE WITH JFK'S ASSISANTION BY THE ILLUMINATI. AND FOR THE FACT OF THE MATTER PROOF OF OUR LAST 2 PRESIDENTS BEING IN THE BOHEMIAN CLUB. SECONDLY HOW DI THE MERIDIAN TOWER AFTER BEING HIT STAND FOR 19 HOURS ON FIRE. AND THE TWIN TOWERS BUILT 100 TIMES TOUGHER WENT DOWN IN ONE HOW. NOT TO MENTION ANYONE WITH EXP IN DEMOLITIONS COULD TELL THE WTC BUILDING WAS DETONATED AND THE OTHER TWO WERE THERMITES VERY SMALL AND NOISLESS.
I do believe this is an inside job, but I don't believe there were any explosives in those buildings. Silverstein would have got the right to demolish & rebuild for free from the insurance anyway. He only held the 99 year lease for 6 weeks before the attacks. I don't think even they thought the towers would fall, as they were supposedly able to take hits from passenger airliners. The tube in tube design failed. Either way, he's laughing all the way to the bank instead of rotting away in jail.
the UNEDITED version of the building 7 collapse can be found at ItWasTyped. com
see for yourself how it did NOT free fall, it collapsed progressively. Look under the 'conspiracy theory' section and find the Building 7 post. Definitive proof that conspiracy theorists are WRONG. Haha!
This is called AIR. When air has no where to go, it goes threw the weakest point. Whats pushing it? The floors falling above it. The air finds the easiest route (through the elevater shafts then windows)
Please, give me your crappy so called "facts" and ill find all of the flaws in them :)
I looked at the "fucking" building several times, and I don't see any evidence of explosions, just debris reflecting the sunlight as they fell. This isn't the best quality camera out there and the video's frame rate was severely slowed, so the flashes look longer. But watch the original or a video from a different angle and it looks just like glass or a reflective surface falling in an erratic manner (and maybe even some molten metal).
I have to admit, those were fairly convincing explosions, and there were no flashes (this video pointed out flashes ie debris). It is possible the "explosions" were caused by an increase of pressure, forcing the windows to blow out, but who knows! I'm somewhat agnostic in what I believe. I still think the towers fell under their own weight, due to laws of motion, conservation of energy, etc, (wtc7 was strange, looked demo'd) but I'm not going to say the government ISN'T behind it all
@TheCollaredCrow well than its my job to convince you your wrong. every single attack is strange, and just doesnt fit. the pentagon, shanksville, wtc7 and of course 1 and 2. and the foreknowledge of the media, police and fire department..
all flashes aside, the molten metal pouring out of wtc 2 just prior to its collapse is enough for anyone to question 9/11. whats really the kicker though is wtc 7. there is no possible explanation for its collapse except demolition, making everything else suspect.
You idiots... Take a closer look. Those flashes aren't even flashes at all. It is particulate debris getting blowen infront of the camera no more then about maybe 4 feet away at the most. Between the shitty camera quality, low frame rate, and the fact that it appears to be being filmed through what I think is a windshield or passenger side window of a car it makes it look like (detonations)... by the way thermite does not "detonate" it just burns it would not flash it would glow for a long time
We can look at these videos and see the explosives so what are we waiting for? WHo is responsible. Number one suspect Larry Silverstein. How this guy hasn't been shot by a grieiving cop over losing so many peopel is beyond me. If anyone could say for a second this guy is not guilty they are nuts. Why would the port authority lease the towers anyway? What would be the reason? Were they losing money? I know they needed the asbestos removed. You know what that would cost? Maybe $200,000 floor.
Another idiotic video that shows nothing more than a severely weakened 110 story building falling down floor after floor, on the massive weight of itself.
The govt will always get away with inside jobs, why? because out of the 1 truth there will be 100,000 false ones being spouted by every idiot and his dog.
No. this is an illusion. sorry boss. i know for a fact an airplane did NOT bring this building down, but this is not Thermite. the person holding this camera is running. while the run and shake, the light off the neighboring building is refracting in the camera lens. watch the video again and only focus on the building to the left. you will see the same yellow and orange flashes of light. now, you did happen to captured a few puffs of smoke coming from the floors below the collapse, pre-charges
@tbirdman1991 look on the other thermite video, they show thermite being used and what it does, then there is a camera that capture the thermite spitting spark right before the building starts to implode.... it is convincing anyways, and either way it is clear the any person with common sense that these buildings didn't come down in one hour due to fire and there was some sort of explosives in the building
@leafs3113 A 1,310 pound bomb in the basement couldn't even budge it in 1993. What makes believe that people went in on Monday and wouldn't notice any wiring or explosives before the attacks on Tuesday? There was fire on the steel truss floors that had to take on the extra support from the destroyed columns. The steel weakened (not melted) while the molten aluminum from the plane reacted with the sprinkler system water to further weaken the multiple floors with hydrogen explosions.
@halftimesportscards no one said they put it in there in one day, there was constant construction and upgrades in the building, could easily be done over a couple months, there was molten steel whether you like it or not.... this new aluminum theory makes a lot more sense than anything that NIST or MIT or FEMA came up with but it's kinda funny that all of the sudden people are jumping on that bandwagon now, can't have it both ways....
@leafs3113 You have to drill many holes in the columns to effectively place explosives. When you have 220 stories, you would need so much dynamite. People would have noticed something going on if there were stripped down columns. It's just too far fetched for me to believe... I wouldn't doubt if the government had ties to the men who flew those planes, but it would be impossible for the explosion theory.
@halftimesportscards I am on the same page as you really, I find it skeptical on both sides and wouldn't be shocked if there were no explosives and would admit I am wrong but I am also skeptical of the government and don't believe the whole truth has been told
@Kaydniscool cool story bro. I don't even see any flashes or even know what this video is supposed to proove. But about your theory. If a building collapsed at free fall speed, as was the case three times on 911, how could an elevator fall any faster? You know like the old brick and marble experiment. They'll both hit the ground at the same time. But yeah could someone explain this video?
Palisades seismic record shows that-as the collapses began-a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the EarthThese unexplained "spikes" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses.
Thermite reactions have many uses. Thermite is not an explosive; instead it operates by exposing a very small area of metal to extremely high temperatures. Intense heat focused on a small spot can be used to cut through metal or weld metal components together both by melting metal from the components, and by injecting molten metal from the thermite reaction itself.
v=dkODHlDQpeU watch that video. 175 pounds of gov't grade thermite didn't even make a dent in half inch thick steel. they used clay and a flange to isolate the heat and still it did nothing. this is why thermite has never been used in demolitions. thermite does not release enough energy to cut steel. this is why children play with sparklers and not get burned. sparklers are pure thermite. this super thermite theory is just bizarre.
It's not bizarre if you know the truth about 9/11. The government used super duper hightech nano thermite hush-a-bombs to demolish the towers after they were struck with antigravity missiles disguised as airliners as part of a long history of false flags so Bush could gain support from the sheeple to invade the middle east because a race of subterranean aliens have been running the puppet government ever since they had the last real president JFK murdered. WAKE UP!!
You dumbass... There are videos on youtube showing steel beams being cut using thermite. Hell, there are videos of people using thermite in their own backyards to cut steel. PULL YOUR HEAD OUT YOUR ASS.
v=dkODHlDQpeU watch that video. 175 pounds of gov't grade thermite didn't even make a dent in half inch thick steel. they used clay and a flange to isolate the heat and still it did nothing. this is why thermite has never been used in demolitions. thermite does not release enough energy to cut steel. this is why children play with sparklers and not get burned. sparklers are pure thermite. this super thermite theory is just bizarre.
Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide that produces an exothermic oxidation-reduction reaction known as a thermite reaction. If aluminium is the reducing agent it is called an aluminothermic reaction. Most varieties are not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures focused on a very small area for a short period of time. The thermite is simply a mixture of metal, often called the "fuel" and an oxidizer
the exploshins that you see are frome air each flore in the world trade center had one acher of air in it when the tower colapsed the air was rushed into the elavator shavet and the cabel to the elavator snaped now the elavator shavet is made of 1/2 feet of concreat so when the elavator spaped it was falling faster then the building witch means that air has got to go some where and that air is despersed out at extream forceses in sevreal aireas witch is the exploashin you see
A valiant effort in exposing the known detonations; however, regardless of speed, these detonations are undetectable. Perhaps an arrow or outline might offer some help at pinpointing the detonations.
No explosives or thermite would have been needed at all. The twin towers were severely damaged by the planes and the steel was weakened, not melted, by the fires. Those two factors were more than enough to collapse the buildings. No other steel building has ever collapsed from fire, but none of those buildings had been severely damaged buy huge airplanes, and none of them had to support as as much weight above the damaged areas as the twin tower had to.
@TimothyRaymond1 Asymmetrical jet impacts and asymmetrical fires can not make a symmetrical collapse. That's contrary to the second law of thermodynamics.
For more about the molten steel in the basements at Ground Zero, see my video:
The 9/11 "Deep Mystery" and the Crazy Engineers
Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, a professor of structural engineering at Berkeley, told PBS "I saw melting of girders at World Trade Center".
@TimothyRaymond1 yes you right cos the planes hit the base of the tower not and of course the towers fall perfect you really are a fucking muppet when will all you american wake up and stand up for your self bush should be hung for this
@TimothyRaymond1 What pulverised the concrete into the consistency of talcum powder? What energy blew a steel girder into an adjacent building? Why did they fall like controlled demolition in to a neat pile at 0 grav speed?
@MrRiktheDik exactly, and physics say something pushed tons of metal into the next buidings, not gravity, since it would have fallen just down, not outside.
No, its the sun on the lens - you will notice the same "thermite" flashes in the neighbouring buildings:D It's just difficult to look at those while a great big tower is in the process of "collapsing". That said, some other mechanism for destroying the three buildings is evident - other than plane damage and fires. There was something more.
Anyone who knows anything about CD can instantly tell just by looking at this that there ain't an explosive in the building. Had this building been stuffed full of explosives there would be no need for material to be hurled 3 blocks. Explosives REMOVE resistance as a building falls. All the lower floors here are intact until the upper portion lands on it. This resistance has nowhere to go but out the sides. Huge huge difference to THIS and a real CD. Not alike at all.
Had thermite or demolition charges been in the building they would remove the resistance as the building falls. Go and watch Landmark implosion and notice how the building falls very cleanly in to its footprint. The WTC is anything BUT controlled. It is encountering a great deal of resistance as it comes down. This debris is being pushed out the sides as a result. Gravity is providing the pulverization explosives don't do that. There is a great deal of difference from a CD to the WTC.
One really impossible fact to ignore. Is the fact that Military grade nano-thermite WAS found in the WTC dust by more than one scientist. And also each scientist independently procured his own samples from places such as museums, which are located in NYC. And independent collectors that held on to the dust for years. You can find these facts just search youtube and google.
I don't know who bratt is trying to convince, defiantly not me..
@oneshotki11 As a true champion of inaccurate information, you are utterly unqualified to lecture any one on
any aspect of WTC scientific evaluation. From what you have posted here, you have no basic common sense either. Typical. Make a wild allegation, and when the mountain of contrary evidence falls on you, and squashes your truther BS, you start flinging insults like a spoiled child who doesn't get thier way. Get you facts straight, and stop vomiting useless information.
@PlzStopBeingStupid Get it straight please. The scientists said that there MAY be thermite, BUT in was inconclusive due to the amount of material in the buildings that make up thermite. Do you know what they are?
Bratt your arguments are self defeating. The link I provided shows SURFACE temperatures above 1300F, 5 days AFTER the WTCs fell. What do you think the temperatures were BELOW the surface genius.
Even Giuliani say temps were 2000F below the surface.
22 Witnesses said there was MOLTEN STEEL.
Check your facts before responding with such nonsense, Its makes you look bad.
I hope everyone who see's these comments realizes the Dis-Info your trying to spread..
@PlzStopBeingStupid We don't know the temps below, "genius" why do think I'm asking for corroborating info? 1300F on the surface 5 days later tells me ZERO about molten steel. Check MY facts??? It was YOU who claimed 2800F. I'm trying to check & UR spewing more BS. ALL quotes of molten steel THAT I HAVE HEARD have been discredited. MANY refered to RED HOT steel as molten, many saw something molten, and called it steel, So far no CONFIRMATION. Its a simple question: 2800F & molten steel, or not?
Thermal imaging is accurate +-2%, but is only able to directly detect surface temperatures...as I said.
The link YOU sent me doesn't support YOUR claim of 2800F.
Still no confirmation of molten steel.
You didn't even read the info on the site you sent me. You are wasting my time. Go and learn.
Occams, Ockhams, Akums, Akkums...pick a razor. Conspiracy, controlled demo, and thermite is not the most likely explanation, damage plus fire-weakened steel is. End.
Hard science and facts will win. Yup, lets check that. Fact: Jet fuel burns at 1200F at its hottest. Fact: Steel melts at 2500F while glowing orange in color. NASA images showed temperatures of 2800F. Hmmm So what causes steel to glow orange and melt? Maybe its the military grade incendiary know as nano-thermite that was discovered in the WTC dust. Or maybe its the plane's aluminum which was silver and wont mix with office materials. You are extremely gullible if you believe the official story!
@PlzStopBeingStupid I do not believe for a nano second that NASA measured temperatures anywhere near 2800F. Show me the NASA documents. Bet you can't!!!
Steel @ 1100F loses 50% strength. @1800F loses 85% strength. WTC fell because there was enough heat to weaken the damaged structure enough to cause failure. Akums razor.
Military grade nanothermite found in WTC dust?? Thats just a lie. Various RESIDUES were found, like sulpher that could have come from thermite...or gyproc. Akums razor.
@biggbrattz Just curious, why do you think the nano-thermite found in the WTC dust was a lie? I have read the material and studied the authors backgrounds. I see no reason for it being a lie? I would love to hear some thoughts to the contrary. We all must be open for new information...
@PlzStopBeingStupid There can not possibly have been any nanothermite in the debris, as it would have burned very quickly. There could only be residues. Residues come from a wide variety of combustion, and interactive heat processes, nanothermite being the LEAST likely. Akums razor. The claim of nanothermite leaps past simpler, more obvious explainations. U got 2 prove it. You are right, we must keep an open mind...the official version could be right, they sure have alot of fascinating info.
@PlzStopBeingStupid Even if someone actually measured 2800F in the debris pile, it could not have been produced by thermite which would burn away quickly. You would need another theory to explain what could have maintained the 2800F for more that a minute or two...and WHY anyone would want to do that? Are we far enough into the twilight zone yet? Even S.Jones, the GRAND POOBAH of incompetant research hasn't forwarded a theory on that yet. No 2800F, no thermite, no time for this crap anymore.
@biggbrattz Come on now. Thermal imaging technology is very accurate, even mounted on a helicopter. I don't think with the overwhelming evidence of molten steel, your arguments have much merit. Your just trolling BS here now.
pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09 Dot html
On September 16th 2001, 5 days later, the temperatures measured over 1300F.
Occam's razor is what leads us to suggest demolitions, given the facts. But you can't even spell it.
@PlzStopBeingStupid 4 steel to glow orange U need SUSTAINED HEAT for it to reach 1700F.
ALOT MORE SUSTAINED HEAT for it to melt @ 2800F. Have heard theories about using thermite to cut steel H columns. It is theoretically possible, but so messy and labour intensive to install, that it is not within the realm of practical, realistic possibility. Those who think it possible @ WTC are refusing to be even the slightest bit realistic.They will probably remain ignorant. There are none so blind.....
@biggbrattz The guys from Bechtel engineers, who were responsible for safety at Ground Zero said: "The debris pile at Ground Zero was always tremendously hot. Thermal measurements taken by helicopter each day showed underground temperatures ranging from 400ºF to MORE than 2,800ºF. The surface was so hot that standing too long in one spot softened (and even melted) the soles of our safety shoes."
I don't think a little jet fuel and office fires causes that kind of heat..
@PlzStopBeingStupid I will repeat, I don't believe ANYONE EVER measured 2800F @ WTC. Show me official documents. Temps measured from a helicopter cannot show the underground temps. Those can ONLY be estimates. Very silly estimates too. Hot? Yes. VERY HOT? YES!!, 2800F?? NO WAY.
R U aware the energy needed to reach 2800F, let alone maintain it?
2800F is highly improbable...make that virtually imposible. Its a wild claim so you have to PROVE it. No one has so far. Akums razor:
there was very newly and start invistegated for 1/1/2 years a danish scien have fund part of it..and some call nanotermite..you can see the force,he heat and video in here.
and many part cut over and mealting down.
is a work of military.
if you belives on other and not see what happen is just that..no building came down like that onles they have packet this building whit 10-100 ton of explosive..and if you do that you can find heat month after.is a joke all other.
There are many "debunking 911" vids on Youtube that are very credible with good science, details and supporting evidence. I accept that I could be wrong about something, but I have looked closely at these issues, so it will require serious information, with confirmed evidence to convince me that things are not , more or less, as they appear. Best of luck inyour search.
@biggbrattz there are absoloutly 0 videos on youtube of any credible evidence to prove that thermite was used on 911 and there never ever will be, all there is is videos of people who obviously have nothing better to do than fabricate evidence because they know there are gullible like you in the world who will follow them, people died get over it
@daveygravey123456 I don't think I explained myself very well. I am in full agreement with you. There are ZERO vids proving thermite. I am not that gullible. Lots of wild accusations flying around, so far I haven't found ANY with an ounce of credibility. Many are complete lies (no plane wreckage at pentagon). Others are misquotes and half truths, like fireman claiming molten steel. With all due respect, if it was molten, then it simply wasn't steel. Hard facts & science will win.
@Funkadelic2 I should have been more accurate with my terminology. Some people do use the term "detonate" to describe ignition of thermite. Thermite does not explode, it simply burns very hot. It can also be made to burn faster by mixing in certain additives, but would still not be considered as explosive. None of these mixtures produce a shock wave. Thermite could be used to create an explosive device, but why? Shaped charges/tnt are far easier to use, much more precise, and cheaper.
@biggbrattz Yes, true. I suppose thermate (thermite with acitive sulfer) would have been chosen to do the cutting job (taking out key columns - especially in the basement regions, where molten steel also were being reported and documented) and then perhaps some other agent to bring on the motion/demolition. But thing is - nobody seems to know too much about exactly how it might have been used, giving a more full explanation of how things would have been done. It all seems a bit surreal though.
@Funkadelic2 Interesting to see the different uses of thermite. I don't believe for a nanosecond that any of those "contraptions" were used at WTC. Evidence? I don't agree with his conclusions. I do not consider "evidence" from S.Jones anymore. Read and watched enough of his nonense along with many analyses showing his work to be VERY lacking. From what I have read, most of the scientific community strongly refutes his "proof". Cut columns? Molten steel documented? NO way!!!
@biggbrattz That's ok. Could you provide me with some of the scientific community's material refuting Dr Jones work? Would be nice to look into. Molten steel has been documented both in photos, film clips, and oral testimony, though I don't know what that might prove or how it can be otherwise explained. The enormous dust clouds, billowing up right at the initiation of the demolition perhaps is the most critical aspect pointing at explosives. About columns, I meant as POSSIBLE use of thermite.
@Funkadelic2 I like the Popular Mechanics site. The information is extensive, hundreds of researchers, 1000s of eyewitnesses, lots corroborating evidence. The first time I heard Jones, I accepted what he said about thermite residues. His science is incomplete. Since he has qualifications, I now view him as a liar. No respect 4 those who ignore or invent evidence. I believe WTC fell bcz of impact damage, and fire weakened steel. Thats what I have learned. Will look at new facts if they appear.
@Funkadelic2 Molten steel connot be confirmed by photo or video. All that is molten is not steel. With ALL due respect to fireman (lots of respect) I believe they saw something molten, no evidence that it was steel. Molten steel requires more heat than anyone can explain at WTC including various thermite theories.
There was no BOOM at start of collapse. No BOOM=no explosives.
Seismic traces clearly show increasing amplitude over the period of collapse.
"youtube . com / watch?v=jpPNRrylH00&feature=related" ...?
Of course it's just a simple demonstration of how thermite can be used with different applications. Being a layman I just thought it was interesting to see actual tests documented on film.
there is nothing to suggest that them towers needed to be wiped out completely. flying 2 planes into a building is more than anoth to go to war why would the governmant risk such an blatent giveaway
@CODgameplay34 because it was a psyop.. they didn't need a reason to go to war, they needed to scare the people into wanting the US to go into war. also, many of the buildings attacked (WTC7, and the Pentagon) contained highly controversial evidence of the US's secret actions.. like how they couldn't account for 2 trillion dollars (stored at the pentagon computers right where the 'plane' hit) and many CIA, FBI, and other government documents were stored at wtc7.
@videovic99 True that is. I, however, started off some four years ago thinking not much (perhaps nothing) about 9/11 seemed out of the ordinary. My skepticism has just, bit by bit, imploded in on itself. What the truth really is, we dont know yet. If ever. And meanwhile all we can do is study.
waw your country most be love so much to do that for you << i mean give you a fireworks show hahahahahahahahahah see the arrivals and you gonna understand what im talking about
Also: the weight of one storey of WTC is about 5 kt. Suppose the structure of floor 100 would give way - a rather plausible thing to do after being hit by an airliner at mach 0.5 - then the storey below would be hit by 50kt of stuff, rapidly accelerating towards freefall speed. I don't see the need for additional explosives here.
@videovic99 But according to physics the upper part must give velocity to lowers parts (their speed is first zero... the upper part must push them to freefall speed which takes energy. If it does not push the lower part to freefall speed, then the acceleration slows down. Gravity cannot do it alone...). This takes a lot of energy which slows down the acceleration. There is also an opposite force on lower part of the building which resists the movement.
@videovic99 right... except 'plausible' isn't exactly a reason against the buildings being constructed to withstand a plane hitting. and if the building did collapse because of the floors collapse onto each other... then the time it took for the building to collapse means that the bottom floors didn't put up any resistance at all (they were collapsed before the floor above reached it).
I see no flashes. Also, thermite doesn't "detonate". It is, strictly speaking, not an explosive. It works rather slow, burning through everything below it, and thus being not really well suited for the kind of sequenced, controlled building demolition you seem to be suggesting here.
@videovic99 unless it is military grade thermite set on detonators and planted in 45 degree angle cuts on the core colums..the attacks are part of the agenda..there is no reason to fight the truth unless you are still in denial, brainwashed, or unable to use critical thinkingSorry but I call it as it is, and this is not the American govrn..that we all knew and grew to love. America has been overthrown from within the tyrannts are only doing what they always do to control the masses they use fear
@videovic99 not how it took time for the buildings to collapse... there were no fires raging up where the plane hit (there's people looking out of the holes!)
plane and simple - if a backyard engineer can build a thermite device which cuts thru steel, what could a NAZI filled CIA, NSA, and PENATAGON come up with with unlimited funding?
Keep your eyes on the walls of the adjacent buildings. The explosives are going off here too - em.... must be due to the sun in the lens. However, something different is going on in the tower, that I agree - but I am not convinced by the "flashes".
Those are not explosive flashes, nor any kind. Since the beaming sun is nearly directly infront of the camera, there are crystals and spots of light EVERYWHERE. Again, thermite does not explode. Also, even if it was that wouldn;t do any damage, and wouldn't you expect to see a cut colum or even a hole? The steel beam doesn't change. Plus those two flashes at the time time are instant, too fast. Plus i don't think you can see thermite through thick thick smoke and debre falling.
Thermite doesn't explode at all, not even close. It burns long, slow, and hot. If you're rejecting the pancake collapse theory then you're saying each and every floor was completely destroyed by tons upon tons of explosives. Where did they get the silent explosives? When did they move millions of dollars and thousands of tons worth of explosives into the building? Was it alien technology explosives beamed into the building by the Roswell ships in area 51?
@blindbrad11 That doesn't indicate thermite at all. Thermite could not have brought the building down in a fast controlled demo style like you guys claim it had to have been brought down. And it would burn out in minutes. Whether a fire was started by thermite or matches either one would have ZERO effect on whether or not its burning the next day let alone month because both would be completely gone in minutes.
@blindbrad11 Drawing the scenario as a broad generalization is order to make it sound impossible is a common dirty debating tactic. Anything can be made to sound impossible if you ignore details. Can a tiny piece of plastic kill the ruler of the world? Yes, if its a shaped into a glock. Can a plane bring down a building? Yes, if it strips away fire proofing and starts a fire that burns for hours and the building had no concrete core.
@DRAT311 An outsider can tell that truthers are wrong just by the format of every debate. Truther presents claim. Debunker presents evidence to prove claim wrong.Truther has no counter evidence or argument so they move on to another claim. Debunker dispoves that claim too. Etc etc etc until the truther runs out of claims and declares the debunker to be a CIA agent or just insults them and runs away. If your argument held up then you could provide counter evidence to ours, not change subject
@blindbrad11 It wasn't. The debris pile was full of concrete and steel. They had to pull down several floors of the core. Did you really think the debris was a giant pile of dust?
@blindbrad11 "why was air defense practicing counter terrorism on the day of 9/11" Because they had training exercises planned that day? What do you think it proves?
@blindbrad11 "why do you believe what our government told us when too many things dont add up?" There is no information here, just an opinion. I could counter with "Why do yo believe conspiracy theories when so much doesn't add up?"
@blindbrad11 "why do you suck so much cockballs?" lol, well the very next post answered my question. You're 12. I'm going to stop dignifying your blathering with replies. This is why I'm getting bored with debating this. No truther can debate with facts. All you have are opinions, questions, lies, logical fallacies, and insults.
@DRAT311 who are you to know all this and who am i to ask questions thats all it is at the end of the day. nothing will change at the end of tthe day and you will never know what really happened either as much as you think you do hahahahhhaha muahaha
@blindbrad11 Why would someone without a mental illness assume that ever man in a suit works for the CIA? Are you 12 or do you have a mental illness? Its becoming clear that one of the other is true because you're barely even making sense.
@blindbrad11 "they say the passport was found but yet no black boxes or anything else irrelevant" Why do some people in a plane crash live and others die? Why do some windows on a car break and others dont? What else relevant do you think should have survived? The black box is the only thing relevant. They get destroyed in crashed all the time. And some thing go completely undamaged. That is the nature of chaos. Crashes are chaos at its finest. There is no mystery here.
@blindbrad11"why did alex jones and others tell us this was going to happen and yet they said they had no idea it was coming." Get a grip. Alex jones said "govt will fake a terrorist attack sometime" . You can't get any more vague. There is a terrorist attack of some kind once every couple of years. I predict a terrorist attack is going to happen in the next few years and alex jones is going to do it. Now when it happens I predicted it and thats proof it was Jones! Right?
@blindbrad11 "why when something fishy comes about they sweep it under the rug and call it national security?" Like what? Details, not generalizations and opinions!
I agree the tower was demolished; I disagree with your light glimpses here. You can argue that these are caused by the sun and lens imperfections. If you care to look at the adjacent buildings, you will see the same "flashes" occurring in these.... but it's hard not to look at the falling tower so you haven't noticed those. So I'm afraid inconclusive, if not debunked.
I'm a Truther and can't accept this. The "explosions" have to last more than a frame and visible from ALL angles. Otherwise, it could be falling debris reflecting sun light. What's more important in this video, is that the tower turns to sand after only falling for 10 floors.
Thermite doesn't explode, it just burns. It would also take 100lbs of thermite on each of the supports to melt them. Plus, if there was thermite, why would it be placed at the windows, you would think that it would be placed in the center of the building where the core was.
@blinkinbilly Are you actually arguing that explosions at ground zero altered the path of a hurricane? I think Truther "science" just hit an all time low.
While I agree that fire alone bringing down these building is a little far fetched...we can't forget the massive speed at which the planes were going - and to then slam into a building a
Oh, for the love of Pete. Thermite is not explosive, produces almost no gas. All you get is a very hot molten slag and a few sparks. Moreover, the poster has no idea of the difference between detonation, explosion and deflagration. I wonder how a government that represents this kind of persons can be smart enough to cheat anyone.
CiroPabon 1 week ago
so fucking sick of "truthers". go get jobs and contribute something possitive to society.
BreadCasket 2 weeks ago
only orange flashes i see are on the van at the end.
pookster78 3 weeks ago
JFK=The last legit president.
Ron Paul=If he wins, the next REAL United States president.
LolsOfRoflica 1 month ago
YES YOU ARE RIGHT THIS WAS A INSIDE JOB. IT HAS DONE BEFORE WITH JFK'S ASSISANTION BY THE ILLUMINATI. AND FOR THE FACT OF THE MATTER PROOF OF OUR LAST 2 PRESIDENTS BEING IN THE BOHEMIAN CLUB. SECONDLY HOW DI THE MERIDIAN TOWER AFTER BEING HIT STAND FOR 19 HOURS ON FIRE. AND THE TWIN TOWERS BUILT 100 TIMES TOUGHER WENT DOWN IN ONE HOW. NOT TO MENTION ANYONE WITH EXP IN DEMOLITIONS COULD TELL THE WTC BUILDING WAS DETONATED AND THE OTHER TWO WERE THERMITES VERY SMALL AND NOISLESS.
machinehead110 1 month ago
I do believe this is an inside job, but I don't believe there were any explosives in those buildings. Silverstein would have got the right to demolish & rebuild for free from the insurance anyway. He only held the 99 year lease for 6 weeks before the attacks. I don't think even they thought the towers would fall, as they were supposedly able to take hits from passenger airliners. The tube in tube design failed. Either way, he's laughing all the way to the bank instead of rotting away in jail.
Missundaztood91 1 month ago
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the UNEDITED version of the building 7 collapse can be found at ItWasTyped. com
see for yourself how it did NOT free fall, it collapsed progressively. Look under the 'conspiracy theory' section and find the Building 7 post. Definitive proof that conspiracy theorists are WRONG. Haha!
culturebully3 2 months ago
This is called AIR. When air has no where to go, it goes threw the weakest point. Whats pushing it? The floors falling above it. The air finds the easiest route (through the elevater shafts then windows)
Please, give me your crappy so called "facts" and ill find all of the flaws in them :)
x30xSabresFan 3 months ago
Last I checked, falling debris isn't evidence of explosions.
TheCollaredCrow 3 months ago
@TheCollaredCrow your an idiot, you need to look at the fucking BUILDING and not on the debree
admiralPs 3 months ago
@admiralPs
I looked at the "fucking" building several times, and I don't see any evidence of explosions, just debris reflecting the sunlight as they fell. This isn't the best quality camera out there and the video's frame rate was severely slowed, so the flashes look longer. But watch the original or a video from a different angle and it looks just like glass or a reflective surface falling in an erratic manner (and maybe even some molten metal).
TheCollaredCrow 3 months ago
@TheCollaredCrow ok if your inable to see the expolsions on this vid, than check this one out. the entire channel is qiute good
watch?v=hSApOavkHg8&list=PL70149323E3E84C51&index=3
admiralPs 3 months ago
@admiralPs
I have to admit, those were fairly convincing explosions, and there were no flashes (this video pointed out flashes ie debris). It is possible the "explosions" were caused by an increase of pressure, forcing the windows to blow out, but who knows! I'm somewhat agnostic in what I believe. I still think the towers fell under their own weight, due to laws of motion, conservation of energy, etc, (wtc7 was strange, looked demo'd) but I'm not going to say the government ISN'T behind it all
TheCollaredCrow 3 months ago
@TheCollaredCrow well than its my job to convince you your wrong. every single attack is strange, and just doesnt fit. the pentagon, shanksville, wtc7 and of course 1 and 2. and the foreknowledge of the media, police and fire department..
check this channel out:
watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g&list=PL70149323E3E84C51&index=2
here's a documentary to 9/11: a real one not just a media shit one... watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ&list=PL70149323E3E84C51&index=19
admiralPs 3 months ago
@TheCollaredCrow
and here's what a real office fire looks like, and this building didnt collapse: watch?v=6hSPFL2Zlpg&list=PL70149323E3E84C51&index=15
admiralPs 3 months ago
@admiralPs That office fire didnt have a plane take off all of its fire proffing and doesnt have jet feul in it ;)
x30xSabresFan 3 months ago
all flashes aside, the molten metal pouring out of wtc 2 just prior to its collapse is enough for anyone to question 9/11. whats really the kicker though is wtc 7. there is no possible explanation for its collapse except demolition, making everything else suspect.
vengencefrom1979 3 months ago
You idiots... Take a closer look. Those flashes aren't even flashes at all. It is particulate debris getting blowen infront of the camera no more then about maybe 4 feet away at the most. Between the shitty camera quality, low frame rate, and the fact that it appears to be being filmed through what I think is a windshield or passenger side window of a car it makes it look like (detonations)... by the way thermite does not "detonate" it just burns it would not flash it would glow for a long time
MrAwsome514 3 months ago
We can look at these videos and see the explosives so what are we waiting for? WHo is responsible. Number one suspect Larry Silverstein. How this guy hasn't been shot by a grieiving cop over losing so many peopel is beyond me. If anyone could say for a second this guy is not guilty they are nuts. Why would the port authority lease the towers anyway? What would be the reason? Were they losing money? I know they needed the asbestos removed. You know what that would cost? Maybe $200,000 floor.
amerikaiscommunist 3 months ago
Another idiotic video that shows nothing more than a severely weakened 110 story building falling down floor after floor, on the massive weight of itself.
Holymakinaw 3 months ago
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LMAO, Thermite that can race ahead of the collapse, that's funny as shit.
There was NO MOLTEN STEEL, anywhere near the WTC plaza, and the NASA AVIRIS InfraRed Temp scans done on the 13th and 17th pretty much rule it out.
Temps on the plaza never got past the 1,000 C temps claimed by NIST, and the plaza itself never got past the 850 C. That's 700 C below melted steel
and 1700 C below thermite. Pretty Weinny
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
Nice video man.But you dont know if they were detonated by radiotransmition or not,so please dont say it.It just gives ammo to the non-truthers!
11009535 4 months ago
The govt will always get away with inside jobs, why? because out of the 1 truth there will be 100,000 false ones being spouted by every idiot and his dog.
damnedcarrot 4 months ago 12
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Good for you, FIDO. Have a Scooby Snack. I will take you to the park later.
Merlin5by5 4 months ago
No. this is an illusion. sorry boss. i know for a fact an airplane did NOT bring this building down, but this is not Thermite. the person holding this camera is running. while the run and shake, the light off the neighboring building is refracting in the camera lens. watch the video again and only focus on the building to the left. you will see the same yellow and orange flashes of light. now, you did happen to captured a few puffs of smoke coming from the floors below the collapse, pre-charges
tbirdman1991 4 months ago
@tbirdman1991 look on the other thermite video, they show thermite being used and what it does, then there is a camera that capture the thermite spitting spark right before the building starts to implode.... it is convincing anyways, and either way it is clear the any person with common sense that these buildings didn't come down in one hour due to fire and there was some sort of explosives in the building
leafs3113 4 months ago
@leafs3113 A 1,310 pound bomb in the basement couldn't even budge it in 1993. What makes believe that people went in on Monday and wouldn't notice any wiring or explosives before the attacks on Tuesday? There was fire on the steel truss floors that had to take on the extra support from the destroyed columns. The steel weakened (not melted) while the molten aluminum from the plane reacted with the sprinkler system water to further weaken the multiple floors with hydrogen explosions.
halftimesportscards 4 months ago
@halftimesportscards no one said they put it in there in one day, there was constant construction and upgrades in the building, could easily be done over a couple months, there was molten steel whether you like it or not.... this new aluminum theory makes a lot more sense than anything that NIST or MIT or FEMA came up with but it's kinda funny that all of the sudden people are jumping on that bandwagon now, can't have it both ways....
leafs3113 4 months ago
@leafs3113 You have to drill many holes in the columns to effectively place explosives. When you have 220 stories, you would need so much dynamite. People would have noticed something going on if there were stripped down columns. It's just too far fetched for me to believe... I wouldn't doubt if the government had ties to the men who flew those planes, but it would be impossible for the explosion theory.
halftimesportscards 4 months ago
@halftimesportscards I am on the same page as you really, I find it skeptical on both sides and wouldn't be shocked if there were no explosives and would admit I am wrong but I am also skeptical of the government and don't believe the whole truth has been told
leafs3113 4 months ago
conspiracy faggot. kill yourself
ballinlough12345 4 months ago
What a nob head
kolakommando 4 months ago
@Kaydniscool cool story bro. I don't even see any flashes or even know what this video is supposed to proove. But about your theory. If a building collapsed at free fall speed, as was the case three times on 911, how could an elevator fall any faster? You know like the old brick and marble experiment. They'll both hit the ground at the same time. But yeah could someone explain this video?
ijuststoledurvideo 4 months ago
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@ijuststoledurvideo
"f a building collapsed at free fall speed, as was the case three times on 911"
Um....WRONG.
IndividualParties 4 months ago
Palisades seismic record shows that-as the collapses began-a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the EarthThese unexplained "spikes" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses.
Jimbofx911 5 months ago
@Jimbofx911 Nice pickup, not many people talk about that.
justythrasher 4 months ago
Deluded kuntz.
Coppertunes 5 months ago
Thermite reactions have many uses. Thermite is not an explosive; instead it operates by exposing a very small area of metal to extremely high temperatures. Intense heat focused on a small spot can be used to cut through metal or weld metal components together both by melting metal from the components, and by injecting molten metal from the thermite reaction itself.
Matjes22 5 months ago
v=dkODHlDQpeU watch that video. 175 pounds of gov't grade thermite didn't even make a dent in half inch thick steel. they used clay and a flange to isolate the heat and still it did nothing. this is why thermite has never been used in demolitions. thermite does not release enough energy to cut steel. this is why children play with sparklers and not get burned. sparklers are pure thermite. this super thermite theory is just bizarre.
nickrock23 4 months ago
@nickrock23
It's not bizarre if you know the truth about 9/11. The government used super duper hightech nano thermite hush-a-bombs to demolish the towers after they were struck with antigravity missiles disguised as airliners as part of a long history of false flags so Bush could gain support from the sheeple to invade the middle east because a race of subterranean aliens have been running the puppet government ever since they had the last real president JFK murdered. WAKE UP!!
IndividualParties 4 months ago 9
@IndividualParties Thank you for the most entertaining youtube comment I've read all year. Seriously, this needs some sort of sarcasm award,
Kossimer 4 months ago
@IndividualParties What? You seriously need to get laid
COYI1895 4 months ago
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@COYI1895
i'm not in the truth cult, my comment recieved the following response, which hit the nail on the head,
"Thank you for the most entertaining youtube comment I've read all year. Seriously, this needs some sort of sarcasm award,"
- Kossimer 19 hours ago
IndividualParties 4 months ago
@IndividualParties Im really not sure how to respond to that . . .
Im hoping your making a joke XD
x30xSabresFan 3 months ago
@x30xSabresFan
I was being sarcastic, I'm well aware that there were NO missiles, nano-thermite, aliens, or controlled demolitions on 9/11.
IndividualParties 3 months ago
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@IndividualParties how refreshing to see someone with brains. You may enjoy the conspiracy theory section at ItWasTyped. com!
culturebully3 2 months ago
You dumbass... There are videos on youtube showing steel beams being cut using thermite. Hell, there are videos of people using thermite in their own backyards to cut steel. PULL YOUR HEAD OUT YOUR ASS.
Born2Flesh 4 months ago
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v=dkODHlDQpeU watch that video. 175 pounds of gov't grade thermite didn't even make a dent in half inch thick steel. they used clay and a flange to isolate the heat and still it did nothing. this is why thermite has never been used in demolitions. thermite does not release enough energy to cut steel. this is why children play with sparklers and not get burned. sparklers are pure thermite. this super thermite theory is just bizarre.
nickrock23 4 months ago
lol thermite what a BS
Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide that produces an exothermic oxidation-reduction reaction known as a thermite reaction. If aluminium is the reducing agent it is called an aluminothermic reaction. Most varieties are not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures focused on a very small area for a short period of time. The thermite is simply a mixture of metal, often called the "fuel" and an oxidizer
Matjes22 5 months ago
the exploshins that you see are frome air each flore in the world trade center had one acher of air in it when the tower colapsed the air was rushed into the elavator shavet and the cabel to the elavator snaped now the elavator shavet is made of 1/2 feet of concreat so when the elavator spaped it was falling faster then the building witch means that air has got to go some where and that air is despersed out at extream forceses in sevreal aireas witch is the exploashin you see
kaydniscool 5 months ago
A valiant effort in exposing the known detonations; however, regardless of speed, these detonations are undetectable. Perhaps an arrow or outline might offer some help at pinpointing the detonations.
1LonePuma 5 months ago
The Building Collaps in free fall 9 or 10 seks
that's quite impossible
when you trow and metal ball from the wtc it takes the same time to land on the ground like the wtc
GamingHacks2010 6 months ago
No explosives or thermite would have been needed at all. The twin towers were severely damaged by the planes and the steel was weakened, not melted, by the fires. Those two factors were more than enough to collapse the buildings. No other steel building has ever collapsed from fire, but none of those buildings had been severely damaged buy huge airplanes, and none of them had to support as as much weight above the damaged areas as the twin tower had to.
TimothyRaymond1 7 months ago
@TimothyRaymond1 Asymmetrical jet impacts and asymmetrical fires can not make a symmetrical collapse. That's contrary to the second law of thermodynamics.
For more about the molten steel in the basements at Ground Zero, see my video:
The 9/11 "Deep Mystery" and the Crazy Engineers
Dr. Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl, a professor of structural engineering at Berkeley, told PBS "I saw melting of girders at World Trade Center".
punxsutawneybarney 7 months ago
@TimothyRaymond1 yes you right cos the planes hit the base of the tower not and of course the towers fall perfect you really are a fucking muppet when will all you american wake up and stand up for your self bush should be hung for this
ragasdapper 5 months ago
@ragasdapper well fuckin said isnt it getting just really pathetic at this point
jamisturb0 5 months ago
@TimothyRaymond1 What pulverised the concrete into the consistency of talcum powder? What energy blew a steel girder into an adjacent building? Why did they fall like controlled demolition in to a neat pile at 0 grav speed?
justythrasher 4 months ago
@justythrasher It's called physics. We've known about it a very long time.
MrRiktheDik 4 months ago
@MrRiktheDik exactly, and physics say something pushed tons of metal into the next buidings, not gravity, since it would have fallen just down, not outside.
bestplugins 4 months ago
Recorded with your fridge??
bigshit131 7 months ago
Bad video but nothing beats the pools of molten steel found in the rubble.
Chaanee 8 months ago
No, its the sun on the lens - you will notice the same "thermite" flashes in the neighbouring buildings:D It's just difficult to look at those while a great big tower is in the process of "collapsing". That said, some other mechanism for destroying the three buildings is evident - other than plane damage and fires. There was something more.
organisten 8 months ago
Anyone who knows anything about CD can instantly tell just by looking at this that there ain't an explosive in the building. Had this building been stuffed full of explosives there would be no need for material to be hurled 3 blocks. Explosives REMOVE resistance as a building falls. All the lower floors here are intact until the upper portion lands on it. This resistance has nowhere to go but out the sides. Huge huge difference to THIS and a real CD. Not alike at all.
roquefortfiles 8 months ago
@roquefortfiles "Explosives REMOVE resistance as a building falls. All the lower floors here are intact until the upper portion lands on it."
This is exactly right. This and this alone disproves all bomb theories. Thank you for making me feel like people with eyes still exist.
Kossimer 4 months ago
@Kossimer Free fall baby, falling at the speed of 0 gravity, nice work.
justythrasher 4 months ago
how can anyone actually deny there were no explosives used after seeing this video?
clark144 8 months ago
@clark144 Easy.
Toddinfantry 8 months ago
In a controlled demolition, the explosions are before the actual collapse.
g1234538 9 months ago
@g1234538 there were several small explosions before the collapse. Staged several minutes apart so they would not be noticed.
Kopihucky 9 months ago
Americans attacking Americans.
AJ14141414141414 10 months ago
Had thermite or demolition charges been in the building they would remove the resistance as the building falls. Go and watch Landmark implosion and notice how the building falls very cleanly in to its footprint. The WTC is anything BUT controlled. It is encountering a great deal of resistance as it comes down. This debris is being pushed out the sides as a result. Gravity is providing the pulverization explosives don't do that. There is a great deal of difference from a CD to the WTC.
roquefortfiles 11 months ago
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biggbrattz 11 months ago
One really impossible fact to ignore. Is the fact that Military grade nano-thermite WAS found in the WTC dust by more than one scientist. And also each scientist independently procured his own samples from places such as museums, which are located in NYC. And independent collectors that held on to the dust for years. You can find these facts just search youtube and google.
I don't know who bratt is trying to convince, defiantly not me..
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid 100% bullshit. Unbelievable.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid Yeah, your a bunch of Google scientists when it comes to this kind of stuff.
oneshotki11 11 months ago
@oneshotki11 As a true champion of inaccurate information, you are utterly unqualified to lecture any one on
any aspect of WTC scientific evaluation. From what you have posted here, you have no basic common sense either. Typical. Make a wild allegation, and when the mountain of contrary evidence falls on you, and squashes your truther BS, you start flinging insults like a spoiled child who doesn't get thier way. Get you facts straight, and stop vomiting useless information.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@biggbrattz A truther i am not. An idiot, you clearly are. Read my comment one more time dummy. I accused truthers of being Google scientists...
oneshotki11 11 months ago
@biggbrattz Dude your right!! (Well partly)...just sent to the wrong person. Sorry. Truthers piss me off!!
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid Get it straight please. The scientists said that there MAY be thermite, BUT in was inconclusive due to the amount of material in the buildings that make up thermite. Do you know what they are?
Toddinfantry 8 months ago
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Introducing a list of Lies, by biggbrattz..
Jet fuel burns at 1200F at its hottest. WRONG 1800F
Steel melts at 2500F WRONG, 2800F
NASA images show 2800F WRONG, 1375F MAX
Military grade nanothermite found in WTC dust ULTRAWRONG, RESIDUES ONLY.
Overwhelming evidence of molten steel WRONG you can't produce even a single piece of convincing info.
Ockham's razor suggest demolition? WRONG, only in the twilight zone.
You R right about 1 thing, there is more than 1 way to spell Ockham. bye.
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
Bratt your arguments are self defeating. The link I provided shows SURFACE temperatures above 1300F, 5 days AFTER the WTCs fell. What do you think the temperatures were BELOW the surface genius.
Even Giuliani say temps were 2000F below the surface.
22 Witnesses said there was MOLTEN STEEL.
Check your facts before responding with such nonsense, Its makes you look bad.
I hope everyone who see's these comments realizes the Dis-Info your trying to spread..
End.
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid We don't know the temps below, "genius" why do think I'm asking for corroborating info? 1300F on the surface 5 days later tells me ZERO about molten steel. Check MY facts??? It was YOU who claimed 2800F. I'm trying to check & UR spewing more BS. ALL quotes of molten steel THAT I HAVE HEARD have been discredited. MANY refered to RED HOT steel as molten, many saw something molten, and called it steel, So far no CONFIRMATION. Its a simple question: 2800F & molten steel, or not?
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid A list of your wrong info:
Jet fuel burns at 1200F at its hottest. WRONG 1800F
Steel melts at 2500F WRONG, 2800F
NASA images show 2800F WRONG, 1375F MAX
Military grade nanothermite found in WTC dust ULTRAWRONG, RESIDUES ONLY.
Overwhelming evidence of molten steel WRONG you can't produce even a single piece of convincing info.
Ockham's razor suggest demolition? WRONG, only in the twilight zone.
You R right about 1 thing, there is more than 1 way to spell Ockham. bye.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
Thermal imaging is accurate +-2%, but is only able to directly detect surface temperatures...as I said.
The link YOU sent me doesn't support YOUR claim of 2800F.
Still no confirmation of molten steel.
You didn't even read the info on the site you sent me. You are wasting my time. Go and learn.
Occams, Ockhams, Akums, Akkums...pick a razor. Conspiracy, controlled demo, and thermite is not the most likely explanation, damage plus fire-weakened steel is. End.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
I sent an email to NASA requesting thermal images dated before 9/16/01. Lets see if they are willing to share them with me.
As for the Thermite they possibly charges used see: patentstorm.us/patents/5532449/description DOT html.
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
Hard science and facts will win. Yup, lets check that. Fact: Jet fuel burns at 1200F at its hottest. Fact: Steel melts at 2500F while glowing orange in color. NASA images showed temperatures of 2800F. Hmmm So what causes steel to glow orange and melt? Maybe its the military grade incendiary know as nano-thermite that was discovered in the WTC dust. Or maybe its the plane's aluminum which was silver and wont mix with office materials. You are extremely gullible if you believe the official story!
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid I do not believe for a nano second that NASA measured temperatures anywhere near 2800F. Show me the NASA documents. Bet you can't!!!
Steel @ 1100F loses 50% strength. @1800F loses 85% strength. WTC fell because there was enough heat to weaken the damaged structure enough to cause failure. Akums razor.
Military grade nanothermite found in WTC dust?? Thats just a lie. Various RESIDUES were found, like sulpher that could have come from thermite...or gyproc. Akums razor.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@biggbrattz Just curious, why do you think the nano-thermite found in the WTC dust was a lie? I have read the material and studied the authors backgrounds. I see no reason for it being a lie? I would love to hear some thoughts to the contrary. We all must be open for new information...
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid There can not possibly have been any nanothermite in the debris, as it would have burned very quickly. There could only be residues. Residues come from a wide variety of combustion, and interactive heat processes, nanothermite being the LEAST likely. Akums razor. The claim of nanothermite leaps past simpler, more obvious explainations. U got 2 prove it. You are right, we must keep an open mind...the official version could be right, they sure have alot of fascinating info.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid Even if someone actually measured 2800F in the debris pile, it could not have been produced by thermite which would burn away quickly. You would need another theory to explain what could have maintained the 2800F for more that a minute or two...and WHY anyone would want to do that? Are we far enough into the twilight zone yet? Even S.Jones, the GRAND POOBAH of incompetant research hasn't forwarded a theory on that yet. No 2800F, no thermite, no time for this crap anymore.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@biggbrattz Come on now. Thermal imaging technology is very accurate, even mounted on a helicopter. I don't think with the overwhelming evidence of molten steel, your arguments have much merit. Your just trolling BS here now.
pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09 Dot html
On September 16th 2001, 5 days later, the temperatures measured over 1300F.
Occam's razor is what leads us to suggest demolitions, given the facts. But you can't even spell it.
Stop living in the twilight zone..
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid 4 steel to glow orange U need SUSTAINED HEAT for it to reach 1700F.
ALOT MORE SUSTAINED HEAT for it to melt @ 2800F. Have heard theories about using thermite to cut steel H columns. It is theoretically possible, but so messy and labour intensive to install, that it is not within the realm of practical, realistic possibility. Those who think it possible @ WTC are refusing to be even the slightest bit realistic.They will probably remain ignorant. There are none so blind.....
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@biggbrattz The guys from Bechtel engineers, who were responsible for safety at Ground Zero said: "The debris pile at Ground Zero was always tremendously hot. Thermal measurements taken by helicopter each day showed underground temperatures ranging from 400ºF to MORE than 2,800ºF. The surface was so hot that standing too long in one spot softened (and even melted) the soles of our safety shoes."
I don't think a little jet fuel and office fires causes that kind of heat..
PlzStopBeingStupid 11 months ago
@PlzStopBeingStupid I will repeat, I don't believe ANYONE EVER measured 2800F @ WTC. Show me official documents. Temps measured from a helicopter cannot show the underground temps. Those can ONLY be estimates. Very silly estimates too. Hot? Yes. VERY HOT? YES!!, 2800F?? NO WAY.
R U aware the energy needed to reach 2800F, let alone maintain it?
2800F is highly improbable...make that virtually imposible. Its a wild claim so you have to PROVE it. No one has so far. Akums razor:
biggbrattz 11 months ago
there was very newly and start invistegated for 1/1/2 years a danish scien have fund part of it..and some call nanotermite..you can see the force,he heat and video in here.
and many part cut over and mealting down.
is a work of military.
if you belives on other and not see what happen is just that..no building came down like that onles they have packet this building whit 10-100 ton of explosive..and if you do that you can find heat month after.is a joke all other.
MultiAirbrusher 11 months ago
There are many "debunking 911" vids on Youtube that are very credible with good science, details and supporting evidence. I accept that I could be wrong about something, but I have looked closely at these issues, so it will require serious information, with confirmed evidence to convince me that things are not , more or less, as they appear. Best of luck inyour search.
biggbrattz 1 year ago
@biggbrattz there are absoloutly 0 videos on youtube of any credible evidence to prove that thermite was used on 911 and there never ever will be, all there is is videos of people who obviously have nothing better to do than fabricate evidence because they know there are gullible like you in the world who will follow them, people died get over it
daveygravey123456 11 months ago
@daveygravey123456 I don't think I explained myself very well. I am in full agreement with you. There are ZERO vids proving thermite. I am not that gullible. Lots of wild accusations flying around, so far I haven't found ANY with an ounce of credibility. Many are complete lies (no plane wreckage at pentagon). Others are misquotes and half truths, like fireman claiming molten steel. With all due respect, if it was molten, then it simply wasn't steel. Hard facts & science will win.
biggbrattz 11 months ago
@biggbrattz well said sir
daveygravey123456 11 months ago
Thermite doesn't detonate. Fail.
biggbrattz 1 year ago
@biggbrattz Thermite DOES detonate depending on how it's used:
watch?v=jpPNRrylH00&feature=related
Accomplished.
Funkadelic2 1 year ago
@Funkadelic2 I should have been more accurate with my terminology. Some people do use the term "detonate" to describe ignition of thermite. Thermite does not explode, it simply burns very hot. It can also be made to burn faster by mixing in certain additives, but would still not be considered as explosive. None of these mixtures produce a shock wave. Thermite could be used to create an explosive device, but why? Shaped charges/tnt are far easier to use, much more precise, and cheaper.
biggbrattz 1 year ago
@biggbrattz Yes, true. I suppose thermate (thermite with acitive sulfer) would have been chosen to do the cutting job (taking out key columns - especially in the basement regions, where molten steel also were being reported and documented) and then perhaps some other agent to bring on the motion/demolition. But thing is - nobody seems to know too much about exactly how it might have been used, giving a more full explanation of how things would have been done. It all seems a bit surreal though.
Funkadelic2 1 year ago
@Funkadelic2 Interesting to see the different uses of thermite. I don't believe for a nanosecond that any of those "contraptions" were used at WTC. Evidence? I don't agree with his conclusions. I do not consider "evidence" from S.Jones anymore. Read and watched enough of his nonense along with many analyses showing his work to be VERY lacking. From what I have read, most of the scientific community strongly refutes his "proof". Cut columns? Molten steel documented? NO way!!!
biggbrattz 1 year ago
@biggbrattz That's ok. Could you provide me with some of the scientific community's material refuting Dr Jones work? Would be nice to look into. Molten steel has been documented both in photos, film clips, and oral testimony, though I don't know what that might prove or how it can be otherwise explained. The enormous dust clouds, billowing up right at the initiation of the demolition perhaps is the most critical aspect pointing at explosives. About columns, I meant as POSSIBLE use of thermite.
Funkadelic2 1 year ago
@Funkadelic2 I like the Popular Mechanics site. The information is extensive, hundreds of researchers, 1000s of eyewitnesses, lots corroborating evidence. The first time I heard Jones, I accepted what he said about thermite residues. His science is incomplete. Since he has qualifications, I now view him as a liar. No respect 4 those who ignore or invent evidence. I believe WTC fell bcz of impact damage, and fire weakened steel. Thats what I have learned. Will look at new facts if they appear.
biggbrattz 1 year ago
@biggbrattz Cool, cool.
Funkadelic2 1 year ago
@Funkadelic2 Molten steel connot be confirmed by photo or video. All that is molten is not steel. With ALL due respect to fireman (lots of respect) I believe they saw something molten, no evidence that it was steel. Molten steel requires more heat than anyone can explain at WTC including various thermite theories.
There was no BOOM at start of collapse. No BOOM=no explosives.
Seismic traces clearly show increasing amplitude over the period of collapse.
4 me, thats conclusive. No explosives.
biggbrattz 1 year ago
@Funkadelic2 Could not activate the link you sent....??
biggbrattz 1 year ago
@biggbrattz No..? Works just fine here...
"youtube . com / watch?v=jpPNRrylH00&feature=related" ...?
Of course it's just a simple demonstration of how thermite can be used with different applications. Being a layman I just thought it was interesting to see actual tests documented on film.
Funkadelic2 1 year ago
there is nothing to suggest that them towers needed to be wiped out completely. flying 2 planes into a building is more than anoth to go to war why would the governmant risk such an blatent giveaway
CODgameplay34 1 year ago
@CODgameplay34 because it was a psyop.. they didn't need a reason to go to war, they needed to scare the people into wanting the US to go into war. also, many of the buildings attacked (WTC7, and the Pentagon) contained highly controversial evidence of the US's secret actions.. like how they couldn't account for 2 trillion dollars (stored at the pentagon computers right where the 'plane' hit) and many CIA, FBI, and other government documents were stored at wtc7.
wygram 1 year ago
disclaimer: I have never loved the american government.
however, if anything can not convince me of explosives in 9/11 than it is this crappy video
videovic99 1 year ago
@videovic99 True that is. I, however, started off some four years ago thinking not much (perhaps nothing) about 9/11 seemed out of the ordinary. My skepticism has just, bit by bit, imploded in on itself. What the truth really is, we dont know yet. If ever. And meanwhile all we can do is study.
Funkadelic2 1 year ago
waw your country most be love so much to do that for you << i mean give you a fireworks show hahahahahahahahahah see the arrivals and you gonna understand what im talking about
MrG4H 1 year ago
Also: the weight of one storey of WTC is about 5 kt. Suppose the structure of floor 100 would give way - a rather plausible thing to do after being hit by an airliner at mach 0.5 - then the storey below would be hit by 50kt of stuff, rapidly accelerating towards freefall speed. I don't see the need for additional explosives here.
videovic99 1 year ago
@videovic99 But according to physics the upper part must give velocity to lowers parts (their speed is first zero... the upper part must push them to freefall speed which takes energy. If it does not push the lower part to freefall speed, then the acceleration slows down. Gravity cannot do it alone...). This takes a lot of energy which slows down the acceleration. There is also an opposite force on lower part of the building which resists the movement.
jpkfox 1 year ago
@videovic99 right... except 'plausible' isn't exactly a reason against the buildings being constructed to withstand a plane hitting. and if the building did collapse because of the floors collapse onto each other... then the time it took for the building to collapse means that the bottom floors didn't put up any resistance at all (they were collapsed before the floor above reached it).
wygram 1 year ago
I see no flashes. Also, thermite doesn't "detonate". It is, strictly speaking, not an explosive. It works rather slow, burning through everything below it, and thus being not really well suited for the kind of sequenced, controlled building demolition you seem to be suggesting here.
videovic99 1 year ago
@videovic99 Here's a particularly vivid flash: v=P7nzIRkKeAI
Here's a more subtle flash: v=ZMnTGieS9Hk
Here's a thermitic reaction at the 81st floor of WTC2: v=xPjEoxV_HTM
And here's thermate--not strictly an explosive--explosively cutting steel anyway: v=5d5iIoCiI8g
Bernadotte01 1 year ago
@videovic99 unless it is military grade thermite set on detonators and planted in 45 degree angle cuts on the core colums..the attacks are part of the agenda..there is no reason to fight the truth unless you are still in denial, brainwashed, or unable to use critical thinkingSorry but I call it as it is, and this is not the American govrn..that we all knew and grew to love. America has been overthrown from within the tyrannts are only doing what they always do to control the masses they use fear
unoitaliano 1 year ago
@videovic99 not how it took time for the buildings to collapse... there were no fires raging up where the plane hit (there's people looking out of the holes!)
wygram 1 year ago
plane and simple - if a backyard engineer can build a thermite device which cuts thru steel, what could a NAZI filled CIA, NSA, and PENATAGON come up with with unlimited funding?
see
watch?v=xYW-z7nrTZk
for home made thermite device.
vengencefrom1979 1 year ago
Keep your eyes on the walls of the adjacent buildings. The explosives are going off here too - em.... must be due to the sun in the lens. However, something different is going on in the tower, that I agree - but I am not convinced by the "flashes".
organisten 1 year ago
Those are not explosive flashes, nor any kind. Since the beaming sun is nearly directly infront of the camera, there are crystals and spots of light EVERYWHERE. Again, thermite does not explode. Also, even if it was that wouldn;t do any damage, and wouldn't you expect to see a cut colum or even a hole? The steel beam doesn't change. Plus those two flashes at the time time are instant, too fast. Plus i don't think you can see thermite through thick thick smoke and debre falling.
2Trueforyouu 1 year ago
Thermite doesn't explode at all, not even close. It burns long, slow, and hot. If you're rejecting the pancake collapse theory then you're saying each and every floor was completely destroyed by tons upon tons of explosives. Where did they get the silent explosives? When did they move millions of dollars and thousands of tons worth of explosives into the building? Was it alien technology explosives beamed into the building by the Roswell ships in area 51?
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 this explains why there were fires going on months after the fact under all the cement.
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11 That doesn't indicate thermite at all. Thermite could not have brought the building down in a fast controlled demo style like you guys claim it had to have been brought down. And it would burn out in minutes. Whether a fire was started by thermite or matches either one would have ZERO effect on whether or not its burning the next day let alone month because both would be completely gone in minutes.
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 have some common sense a plane cant take down these building by itself
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11 Drawing the scenario as a broad generalization is order to make it sound impossible is a common dirty debating tactic. Anything can be made to sound impossible if you ignore details. Can a tiny piece of plastic kill the ruler of the world? Yes, if its a shaped into a glock. Can a plane bring down a building? Yes, if it strips away fire proofing and starts a fire that burns for hours and the building had no concrete core.
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 An outsider can tell that truthers are wrong just by the format of every debate. Truther presents claim. Debunker presents evidence to prove claim wrong.Truther has no counter evidence or argument so they move on to another claim. Debunker dispoves that claim too. Etc etc etc until the truther runs out of claims and declares the debunker to be a CIA agent or just insults them and runs away. If your argument held up then you could provide counter evidence to ours, not change subject
DRAT311 1 year ago
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blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 building 7
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why was everything blown to dust?
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11 It wasn't. The debris pile was full of concrete and steel. They had to pull down several floors of the core. Did you really think the debris was a giant pile of dust?
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why was air defense practicing counter terrorism on the day of 9/11
blindbrad11 1 year ago
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@blindbrad11 "why was air defense practicing counter terrorism on the day of 9/11" Because they had training exercises planned that day? What do you think it proves?
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why do you believe what our government told us when too many things dont add up?
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11 "why do you believe what our government told us when too many things dont add up?" There is no information here, just an opinion. I could counter with "Why do yo believe conspiracy theories when so much doesn't add up?"
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why did bush mention kayne in his book over 9/11?
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why did the cia make fake bin ladin tapes?
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why do you suck so much cockballs?
blindbrad11 1 year ago
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@blindbrad11 "why do you suck so much cockballs?" lol, well the very next post answered my question. You're 12. I'm going to stop dignifying your blathering with replies. This is why I'm getting bored with debating this. No truther can debate with facts. All you have are opinions, questions, lies, logical fallacies, and insults.
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 who are you to know all this and who am i to ask questions thats all it is at the end of the day. nothing will change at the end of tthe day and you will never know what really happened either as much as you think you do hahahahhhaha muahaha
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why did the underwear bomber have a black suit cia guy walk him threw the scanners?
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11 Why would someone without a mental illness assume that ever man in a suit works for the CIA? Are you 12 or do you have a mental illness? Its becoming clear that one of the other is true because you're barely even making sense.
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 you a chuancey and a momo too me but does that matter no. look at all the evidence you would believe what they told u ahha u fuckin schill
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 they say the passport was found but yet no black boxes or anything else irrelevant
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11 "they say the passport was found but yet no black boxes or anything else irrelevant" Why do some people in a plane crash live and others die? Why do some windows on a car break and others dont? What else relevant do you think should have survived? The black box is the only thing relevant. They get destroyed in crashed all the time. And some thing go completely undamaged. That is the nature of chaos. Crashes are chaos at its finest. There is no mystery here.
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 people like you should go work for them
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why did alex jones and others tell us this was going to happen and yet they said they had no idea it was coming.
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11"why did alex jones and others tell us this was going to happen and yet they said they had no idea it was coming." Get a grip. Alex jones said "govt will fake a terrorist attack sometime" . You can't get any more vague. There is a terrorist attack of some kind once every couple of years. I predict a terrorist attack is going to happen in the next few years and alex jones is going to do it. Now when it happens I predicted it and thats proof it was Jones! Right?
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 i feel bad for you if you think bums from Afghanistan did it
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@blindbrad11 I feel bad for you if you think the government did it. There are medications that will help with paranoid schizophrenia.
DRAT311 1 year ago
@DRAT311 wasnt the government it was Israeli radicals
blindbrad11 1 year ago
@DRAT311 why when something fishy comes about they sweep it under the rug and call it national security
blindbrad11 1 year ago
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@blindbrad11 "why when something fishy comes about they sweep it under the rug and call it national security?" Like what? Details, not generalizations and opinions!
DRAT311 1 year ago
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@DRAT311
what if it was a nuclear explosion underground, below the WTC ?
before posting
search Dimitri Khalezov and his theory, it makes kind of sense
diGoblin 1 year ago
who cares about this, as if the us gov are capable of such an epic scale cover up
AlexPSP 1 year ago
i dont see the flashes that can argued but i do see a building being desintegrated in an unnatural way.
DINGLEtheBERRY 1 year ago
I agree the tower was demolished; I disagree with your light glimpses here. You can argue that these are caused by the sun and lens imperfections. If you care to look at the adjacent buildings, you will see the same "flashes" occurring in these.... but it's hard not to look at the falling tower so you haven't noticed those. So I'm afraid inconclusive, if not debunked.
organisten 1 year ago
I'm a Truther and can't accept this. The "explosions" have to last more than a frame and visible from ALL angles. Otherwise, it could be falling debris reflecting sun light. What's more important in this video, is that the tower turns to sand after only falling for 10 floors.
blinkinbilly 1 year ago
The top floors of the south tower where "powered down" for three days. Less then a week before the collapse
joshuwaski 1 year ago
Would you not only have to take the core supports out. Doing that would cause the building to fold in on itself. Like turning a sock inside out.
joshuwaski 1 year ago
Thermite doesn't explode, it just burns. It would also take 100lbs of thermite on each of the supports to melt them. Plus, if there was thermite, why would it be placed at the windows, you would think that it would be placed in the center of the building where the core was.
Caius13 1 year ago
@Caius13 if it was placed more towards the edges it would have taken it down and it did
Bartman1764 1 year ago
@Caius13
Uh, nanothermite can explode, getcho facts straight
tokeabow 1 year ago
@Caius13 There were definitely explosions. Google the path of Hurricane Erin on that day, it took a hard right out to sea as a result of the WTC.
Concrete falling, or intense explosions? You decide.
blinkinbilly 1 year ago
@blinkinbilly Are you actually arguing that explosions at ground zero altered the path of a hurricane? I think Truther "science" just hit an all time low.
DRAT311 1 year ago
While I agree that fire alone bringing down these building is a little far fetched...we can't forget the massive speed at which the planes were going - and to then slam into a building a