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  • End the war tax the rich ? what the fuck are these people on about, don't they understand how humans work millions of years of killing each other over food land power i think i would rather live in a free capitalist world than a muslim 12 century world thank you. wake up smell the coffee

    not open of those people will go hungry after that rally they will all go to dinner or bars to discuss how clever they have been, "i was there man" fools

  • CONTINUE OCCUPY WALL STREET ON SPRING

  • Anyone who hates occupy loves FOx News.... You idiots bash these people who are attempting to stand up for our liberties, and end corrupt government. Wall St. RUNS our government, which is fueled by the FED. You guys need to stop belittling these people and start standing up for your own liberties instead of sitting in your house, on the internet not doing shit...

  • Fucking liberals. Get a fucking job ..... jezzz

  • Communism = Millions and millions murdered.

  • @basenjib123 The very same thing is true about capitalist imperialism.

  • Not a one of these people look like they have ever had any intentions of applying for a job at any time. THE REAL SOLUTION IS FOR MOMMY AND DADDY TO CUT THE FINANCIAL CORD!

  • sooo many hippies 

  • Nobody who makes $40k a year and has 3 kids is complaining that their % burden is to low. Astroturf poster.

  • @202pdiddy Wow - can you even read? I said I make 90k. What I said was that the portion of taxes I owe on my income up to 45k is completely written off by mortgage interest, write-offs on my two kids, and whatever other programs apply (like the tax-rebate I got for first-time homeowner and for my new car having significant enough mpg's. My kids aren't even old enough to go to school yet. WTF is wrong with you!?

  • @spectrumVerX Exactly. I don't have a problem with people making money, I do have a problem with somebody spouting blatant lies about what somebody making $40k a year pays in taxes.

  • @spectrumVerX That's all irrelevant to someone making $45k per year, the example YOU brought up.

  • @202pdiddy Listen, moron...read about how our tax code works and this JUST might make sense to you. I can lead a jackass to water, but I can't make him drink. Stop being a confrontational fuckwad and actually learn. Something tells me you're actually just crazy, though..'astroturf' wouldn't apply even if I were a 'plant'. I knew that you OWS morons were, by and large, insane as well as stupid, but I had no idea...

  • @202pdiddy Uh-huh...and the way a progressive tax system works is that you pay one rate on income up to X1, another rate on income above X1 and below X2, another rate on income above X2 and below X3, etc. So, I *DO* pay taxes on my income up to 45k at the same rate as others who make up to 45k - and I can tell you w/certainty that the writes offs I have for kids, mortgage interest, etc negates the taxes I owe up to 45k. I remedy as much of the tax above 45k as I can with other (cont.)

  • @spectrumVerX Dumbass, most people who make $35k-$45k per year don't have 3 kids, a mortgage and private school tuition FOR A REASON.

  • @202pdiddy No...the real problem is that too many of them *DO* have those things, which is *WHY* they bitch so much about their situation - instead of just living inside their means. More than 80% of my family I can point to as an example...I can only imagine what it's like is less educated families.

  • @spectrumVerX You're just reverting to this stupid charge that they're jealous of rich people, and ignoring the main reason they're protesting: that our democracy is being diminished because corporate America is able to buy influence to tilt the law in their favor. It's also about illegal behavior going unpunished.

  • @202pdiddy things like charitable contributions, investments in my own start-up company, etc. Up to 45k, it works out the same for me as it does for anyone else. It's your misunderstanding of this that is asinine.

    And, no...I've spoken with enough OWS'ers - yourself apparently included. It *IS* about eating the rich. And focusing on wall street is aiming at the wrong target anyways - you *SHOULD* be protesting Washington.

  • @spectrumVerX No, OWS isn't about "eating the rich"; that's just a right wing talking point. It's about corporations cheating and a tax code that has played no small part in destroying the safety net for middle and working class people. I realize it would be really cool if this was about simple jealousy, but that's just Fox News propaganda.

  • @202pdiddy I don't watch Fox or any other mainstream news. Most of the footage I've seen is from servers on Tor before the OWS'ers have edited them down. Besides that, I've spoken with the ones just two blocks away from my work. These people want to abolish private ownership of housing, instate 'equalization' taxes - WAY beyond progressive, qualify a job as a right...all kinds of marxist nonsense. No, it's not jealousy...it's "eat the rich" - you'd do well to examine the difference.

  • @spectrumVerX Communism is the only solution. Always was, always will be.

    Glory to Karl Marx, the greatest thinker who ever lived.

  • @LegalEagleX I can only how you're being facetious, especially given the multitude of fallacies in his theories. If you were being facetious, chalk this up to the lack of tonality on the internet. If not, explain yourself.

  • @spectrumVerX You're saying they want to abolish private ownership of housing. What a crock. It's a diverse movement protesting a complex set of problems. There's all sorts of overlap in the agendas of the various groups and individuals involved. Even the relatively small number of socialists involved wouldn't even all agree on abolishing private ownership of housing. OWS is primarily concerned with cheating and plutocracy.

  • You are astroturf, because you're fucking fake. Don't try to pass yourself off as representing people making $35k-$45k. You don't represent those people, and furthermore, you're distorting the reality of what they pay in taxes.

  • @202pdiddy What they *DO* pay in taxes has nothing to do with what they *COULD* pay in taxes, if only they hired a proper CPA to do their taxes for them. I used to make 35-45k and my attitude hasn't changed one iota since I *WAS* making that amount. Taxes are too high for everyone and write-offs and subsidies don't actually remedy the issue of overtaxation - it just exacerbates the situation. Again, you go with this 'astroturf'...believe you me, no one is paying me to educate you (cont.)

  • @202pdiddy You simply lack an understanding of these matters, but choose to speak about it (better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt). I'm trying to teach you something because it's ignorance like yours that makes it all the more difficult to actually solve the problems that *DO* exist.

  • @spectrumVerX I'm not the one spouting idiocies like "people making 35-45k a year are more likely (to the tune of 45% of them) to pay zero federal income tax".

  • @202pdiddy Also, if you're going to throw a statistic out there, let's see your source.

  • @202pdiddy It's not an 'idiocy' as I've already explained. You're just too idiotic to understand it.

  • Savagerocks, you are NOT the 99%, all you marxist fleabaggers put together are little more than 0.00000001% of the population.

  • @evilsoxkitty It's called working 95 hours a week and not 35 like most of the people parading around here.. That's what got them to the top.. lying, stealing and cheating their way to the top? We're talking about businesses here, not government. Donate to make themselves look good? To who?.... You think they really have anyone to impress? Look at the statistics before you come out and say something so bold and so incorrect... 89% of donations from investment bankers are anonymously donated.

  • ARRRG, so many people protesting, BUT NONE have a solution to our problems. Please checkout zeitgeist and the venus project for HOW to solve the problems in our society, or we are all fuked, not just those people, but the WHOLE PLANET

  • Savage and Jarhead Ventura are trying to run this page....a pair of ultra losers.

    Find a room you two.

  • Get the fuck out of the streets you assholes.

  • @evilsoxkitty If that were the case you wouldn't be working to keep the Democrats in power so they can keep the tax payer money going to the unions and so that Soros will be able to diminish the US currency.

    I don't see any OWS speaking out against the democrats exploiting anything. All people see is an incoherent mob.

    Wake up, you are being used.

  • @jesseVenturanotaSeaI The government spends way more tax dollars on funding the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq than on unions.

  • @RyukoSan17 So the next time al Qaeda flies aircraft full of people into buildings full of people we should send the SEIU to go pester them.....

  • @jesseVenturanotaSeaI They wouldn't have had the tools to organize such a plot if the United States hadn't sent funds and weapons to Saddam Hussein back in the '70s. Also, for the record, we (as a country) played directly into Al Quaeda's hands by throwing a huge tantrum and starting TWO extremely expensive wars. They're laughing at us as we speak.

    And to directly answer your question, "next time" (I doubt there will be one), I hope we have the sense NOT to repeat the same mistakes.

  • @RyukoSan17 Al Qaeda hated Saddam Hussein, So no, you don't know what you are talking about. Hussein and Al Qaeda weren't working with each other.

    We killed thousands of Al qaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan that otherwise would have been attacking us.

    And no, that wasn't an answer to my question.

  • @evilsoxkitty You were telling me it was anonymous a little while ago, now "you don't care who the fuck started it". Guess you did some research and found out you were wrong. Could it be that you are just a shit head looking for a band wagon to hop on to? Well the band wagon you have hopped on to is bring run by big labor and Soros. You are out protesting to make millionaires and billionaires more money you stupid, stupid idiot.

  • MrSavage(dickhead) calls himself a man......what a chickenshit coward he actually is. Dude, you wouldn;t say that shit to my face I know THAT you pussy.

  • Eeeesh why is it always and only the art students? LOL.

  • @captainscallawag It's true, anybody want links? 'Cause I got 'em.

  • where are the police when you need them???

  • @evilsoxkitty Wrong. If corps are shut down,where will everyone work? you retarded douche bag,LOL

  • @evilsoxkitty The only thing the "protestors" are contributing to lower Manhattan is piles of shit on the sidewalk. Get the hell out of my city.

  • @evilsoxkitty So you admit it was started by Adbusters, A george Soros funded group... It is being organized by moveon..Another Soros funded group and run by the SEIU... All to keep the democrats in power so the gravy train can keep going. The people who are out "protesting" are being used by corrupt Unions and an indicted insider trader to make them richer by keeping the democrats in power.

    And look what the democrats did to reign in wall st. The Dodd Frank bill = nothing. You are suckers.

  • @jesseVenturanotaSeaI Nice man! You have been doing your homework. As usual. LOL The American communist part is there also.

  • @evilsoxkitty Big labor, as in the labor unions, which are certainty more corrupt then any corporation ever thought about being. The SEIU are a bunch of thugs and they are simply working to keep the democrats in power so they can get more government money sent their way. (As in the stimulus, where tax payer funds were poured down the SEIU, BIG LABOR rat-hole)

  • @evilsoxkitty Ok you can believe whatever you want, but we will see how much change comes out of this.

  • @345goob Still waiting,dumb ass. LOL You see,dummy,you voted for the change. You voted for a marxist/communist. And suddenly,you don't like it. You dildo. LOL

  • @MrSavagerocks Obviously obama is not a communist, stop over exagerating things. and no i did not want obama to be president.

  • @345goob He is a Marxist. Everyone knows that,you dildo. And a marxist's end goal is communism. Dumb ass.

  • @MrSavagerocks hahahahaha, you're funny. you remind of michael savage.

    OMG!!! i just looked at your name at it says MrSavagerocks....sooo funny. Please stop blowing things out of proportion.

  • @evilsoxkitty so your judging me based on college sports and video games? Well you like cartoons and trance music so you must be a loser. OK, a little judgemental there, i can have my own opinion on politics and still like those things too right? I'm obviously taking it seriously because i was criticizing the protestors for blocking hard working citizens who are contributing to the economy..

  • @evilsoxkitty ADBUSTERS STARTED THIS! Google it! No, Anonymous did NOT start this, it was started with George Soros' money at adbusters. It was then supported with George Soros' money from MoveOn and George soros' cronies at the big labor unions (SEIU) stepped in and started running the thing. I know, I've seen it. (The people handing out propaganda in the purple shirts are SEIU.)

    You are "protesting" to get Big Labor and the democrats more power. Wake up and stop being such a sucker.

  • On YouTube - "How Far 2 Zuccotti Park." It's not just about money.

  • @evilsoxkitty They are suckers. They are doing for free what the unions are paying "protestors" to do. 

  • @evilsoxkitty They understand America? They are in a "movement" that was started by adbusters (funded by the billionaire Geroge Soros.) It is being organized by SEIU and MoveOn (again, funded by billionaire George Soros) and is being co-opted by the DNC. These IDIOTS aren't "fighting a rigged economy", they are helping the Unions and a billionaire rig it in their favor.

  • @evilsoxkitty lol, you obviously arn't understanding me. The people who are protesting have nothing to be afraid of, especially not of being arrested. If they break the law however, that's a different story. Honestly i don't take them seriously at all, i know a lot of people are there because they want to say "i was apart of that" not that they neccesarily want something to change.

  • @evilsoxkitty The USA is a country where even the lowest on the Government poverty index have an obesity problem. Yeah, their mommies have overfed their petulant, snotty, ignorant asses.

  • @evilsoxkitty You are truly an idiot.When I was growing up I did without lots of stuff including food,but my parents NEVER asked for gov't handouts & sucked taxpayers like leeches which is what all you animals at Occupy Wall Street are.Y'all are leeches sucking everyone dry.You people are useless & worthless.I wish NY would call in their military & drag y'all out.Y'all want to act like animals,then you deserve to be treated as such.

  • @evilsoxkitty i'm sure when the troops are in actual combat they arn't laughing. Also, how are people supposed to take them seriously when some of them arn't acting like they even think it is serious.

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    guys check this out ,I admire your passion but this is the wrong way .They know your there but they dont care .There are better ways and I want to make a difference and see people really make an impact. This is not the way ,it will not do harm to the big wigs.This is a small site with small steps but it will hurt them more to follow this path then camp out on a street or a park.I also have a feeling SOME people are at theese just to get attention.

  • @evilsoxkitty - The actors changed roles. The plot changed little.

  • @evilsoxkitty - Not exactly.

  • The KOCH brothers live in NYC... why don't the protesters go to their building and smoke them out ?!? or FIXED NEWS building who keep up the scandelous lies!?!

  • Boo-fricking-hoo.

    Nothing but a bunch of over-fed shit heads.

  • whoa whoa whoa! does no one find it disturbing that counter intelligence operatives are all over these sites? What you sense is wrong with the world is correct. You are being observed all day. You are being controlled all day. When will you realize the ultimate truth that you believe in? People should not be made to pay for the things they need to live. It's anti-spiritual to do such a thing. We need to acknowledge that.

  • whoa whoa whoa! does no one find it disturbing how that woman @ 2:24 doesn't even know what her sign means much less what OWS is about?

  • @ericflu1 Yeah she seems uneducated :/

  • WEEEEEEEEEEE WANT GANDHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!

  • God Bless You All out there! The media is NOT allowed live coverage of Americans protesting! Wake-UP AMERICA!

  • power to the people keep it peaceful ya'll

  • IF you want real revolution....

    Occupy the Federal Bank... Get real...

    Hippy wantabees....

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  • Sehr gut!

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  • The ONLY good thing about this bullshit protest is the naked chicks!!! Way to intelligently get your point across hippie chicks, keep it up!!!

  • @evilsoxkitty Look good to who? They have nobody to impress... You have no idea as to the reasons why they donate since you are so anti-corporate. You can't say that when you don't know anyone in the financial world. We're talking about businesses here, not government. Few people cheat. Those who do get shut down. IE. Enron. Please don't come to an argument without knowing what you are talking about, it just proves how uneducated and arrogant you truly are.

  • Tell the losers out there to get J-O-B-s

  • @TheFequalsMA they have jobs most of them don't have they're unemployed there's no jobs thanks to wall street...im asking for a week off of mine and join them

  • Oh, im a dick. Oh, I dont know who was there, or what they believe. I just get tired of this arm chair avtivist approach towards adavancing our lives. Let them mock us, they have been doing it since grade school, the important lesson is to dust that off, not try to compete, but excel. End rant, if you want to continue this convo, msg me.

  • That was "the place to be seen" for too many participants, thus defeating the purpose. This, I feel, was nothing more than a childish "i heard about this thing happening" style response to the champagne fiasco a couple days ago.

  • Fucking mindless pigs. Government Tools. Who are they protecting by slamming peaceful protestors around? They have the right to free speech even if that means getting called pigs. If they can't take name calling they need a new job.

  • the police are working class people too they have also been bamboozled they need to join the movement

  • Jon Stewart's brother Larry Leibowitz is the Chief Operating Officer (COO) of the New York Stock Exchange.

  • Every american should get off there coach and go to wall street and protest

  • Socialist??? Communist? Why?? We are a republic with rights.If you go in that direstion you will loose all of those rights.If you want to be taken care of and be told what to do and how to live your life and work for very low wages next to your comrade and become a party member without any say so, MOVE TO A SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST COUNTRY...THERE ARE MANY OF THEM OUT THERE AND I AM SURE THEY WILL ACCEPT YOU RIGHT AWAY.

  • @WhiteySavage1 Actually, ZERO Communist nations exist. There are plenty of totalitarian dictatorships, but the closest thing to socialism out there is probably the EU.

    Try again, Comrade.

  • you have created a carnival atmosphere and lost your credibility with mainstream americans.

  • @kwb977

    When you're' on the SIDE of the BANKS - you can quietly protest in parks.

    That's the TEA Party.

    When you're FIGHTING the BANKS, there's NO TIME LEFT to sit in the park!

    THAT IS PROGRESSIVES!

  • WHEN INJUSTICE BECOME A LAW,RESISTANCE BECOMES A DUTY !

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    VOTE FOR FREEDOM:

    VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN 2012.

  • Even a child could see the rediculousness in Lloyd Blankfein pulling in 1 billion over 10 years and doing nothing productive (its not like goldman sachs creates anything of value).

    It is well known in 2008 that goldman sachs made a 13 billion illegal naked short credit default swap bet on subprime mortgages with aig. When aig went bankrupt - they made the American middle class pay.

    That is rediculous and a crime that needs to be addressed.

  • hey bulldog - instead of burning down the banks why don't we hand money printing back to the American government and people (instead of private Fed - ie Ron Paul - End the Fed or JFK - executive order 11110 - US government notes).

    Then when money is created it doesn't have to be created as debt to the private federal reserve.

    We could also end fractional reserve lending (in private hands) and derivatives (gambling with peoples money.

    Bankers could work for the government -as they should

  • i have an idea, lets burn down the banks so, we all can starve to death..yeah, thats brilliant as fuck...no loans of any kind to anyone..yeah, thatll work, so, trucking will shut down, no food being transported, no oil or gas, hell, well all sing kumbaya to stay warm this coming winter. lets shut down the economic engine that feeds us all, and delivers services and products to billions worldwide...no farming, no drinking water, no nothing..and we'll replace it with uhm rainbows n unicorns morons

  • @heybulldog13 Oh yeah, because the banks giving out tons of loans now! I bet you think that toxic mortgages and predatory banking strategies are great for the economy.

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  • burn down the fed and the banks all over america

  • I APPLAUD THESE PROTESTORS. THE CORPORATE GREED IS OUT OF CONTROL. THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @LPNET1 Move along commie, Move along. The protesters are from the US commie party. You dumb asses have been exposed. LOL

  • @MrSavagerocks No keep shopping, keep quiet...it's your version of the American way.

  • @Thejbirdy Shopping? Im a man you retarded commie bitch. LOL America will never be a commie nation. We will just have to deport all you commie bitches. Ahahahaaaaaaaaaaa

  • @MrSavagerocks Aww poor little angry man.

  • @MrSavagerocks Oh wait, you don't BUY things? it's called shopping you twat or maybe your mommy buys for you.

  • @MrSavagerocks Say what you want, we are from all walks of life and are all affected by the corruption. We aren't going anywhere so get used to it. You arrest one, 100 more will appear. WE ARE THE 99%, WE ARE THE 99%.

  • Why is it that hippies have to play into the stereotype?

  • God Bless all of you and God Bless America.

  • @ITALOVER2 Go complain to Bill Clinton who signed the legislation to make banks give loans to illegals and people who couldn't afford them. That is why there is apartments and they should rent if they cannot afford a home loan.

  • @ITALOVER2 Go to the root of the problem is the Progressive movement who gave these loans to illegals and people who couldn't afford them. Go to Clinton and complain his legislation is what started this financial mess and progressed to our financial breakdown.

  • @1destra Hmm, I thought that the banks were making the loans...

  • @nibblerseven Don't be stupid, look it up "Community Reinvestment Act" 1993. The current mortgage crisis came about in large part because of Clinton-era government pressure on lenders to make risky loans in order to “make homeownership more affordable for lower-income Americans and those with a poor credit history,” Continue next post.

  • @nibblerseven the DC Examiner notes today. “Those steps encouraged riskier mortgage lending by minimizing the role of credit histories in lending decisions, loosening required debt-to-equity ratios to allow borrowers to make small or even no down payments at all, and encouraging lenders the use of floating or adjustable interest-rate mortgages, including those with low ‘teasers.’” Yes, Banks were force by law to lend to illegals and anyone who didn't meet requirement for regular home loans.

  • @1destra Ah, yeah, I see. But still, the banks could have made loans for low income families with lower interest rates, and they at least could have used some discretion in choosing which loans were viable and which are outright stupid. Besides, whose fault is it that these people are being paid so little anyway? The entire corporate system ruins the lives of thousands of Americans and then faces no liability for it. This is the shit that people are tired about.

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  • @nibblerseven Banks are a business & the interest rate was the same 4 everyone when having a regular home loan, but 2 abide by the new regulations, the banks were forced 2 lend at lower rates 2 risky buyers or face jail time. When doing these types of loans, these people would have to refinance 10yrs down the road, because these loans were temporary loans and the rates would go back up to regular existing rates. Banks didn't want to risk their capitol or investors money on these risky buyers.

  • @1destra Um, that's great? I don't really see where your'e going. I read about the C.R.A. and I see what you mean. You don't need to explain it back to me.

  • @nibblerseven You need to read more... here is another source "OpenMarket . org article, "Clinton Pressure to Promote Affordable Housing Led to Mortgage Meltdown" by HANS BADER on SEPTEMBER 16, 2008. Here is the source about the law that Clinton enacted, "Community Reinvestment Act Ensuring Credit Adequacy or Enforcing Credit Allocation. Vern McKinle"

  • @1destra Save your breath dude, they are not interested in facts or rational thought. They romanticize over ending the evil corporation and everyone should share the wealth, that's an abyss for these kids. Maybe after another 20 to 30 years of life experience, then they might get it. I wouldn't hold my breathe.

  • @ITALOVER2 If you understood the financial sector, our tax money is being squandered by our Govt. and Wall Street is the wrong target. You should worry more about our money being used to bailout companies that they know are going under just for kick backs. Plus, what is the real cause and root of our countries financial problems is the housing crises steaming from Clinton and being furthered by the Dems...Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Also, look into how college tuition's have tripled in 2yrs.

  • No love for Obama in this crowd, it seems. It's a joke that he's the candidate from the "left."

  • George Soros is paying these kids to protest and he is the biggest corrupt Capitalist there is... Get a job you lazy idiot kids and dope smokers! No more handouts! I am tired and so are most of American's tired of paying your way. No Socialism here nor Maoism, who committed genocide on 49-78,000,000 people. If the police didn't control this, then there would be mob rule, and our cities would be burnt to the ground. Is the the Tea Party? NO! You winnie hypocrates!

  • It sounds so festive! Like a Renaissance Festival!

  • And to wit, the founders believed in separation of business and government as well as church and state, but in their day, government was the bane of businesses, not the boon. Their rivalry was healthy and well-known. Things changed in the last hundred or two years, and it slipped right by the common folk. This is why I think your protest is a nice gesture, but the only way out of this (wearing my historian's hat, now) is with violent revolution. But I don't think this generation has it in them.

  • @evilsoxkitty And that would be fine if the sociofascists in the movement kept their mouths shut, but they don't - and the reasonable people don't do it for them. But I agree with that sentiment entirely. I clearly disagree with many of the solutions I suspect the group of proposing. In my opinion, no one can be trusted to govern over another. It always results in abuse. It was interesting to see some of my anarchist ilk out there - not that I dress in silly garb, but it's nice to see new ones.

  • @evilsoxkitty Violence = Effective. Al Qaeda got their point across by doing 9/11. It worked. Everyone said "Why do they hate us so much"?