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  • Everyone hates on neons and its cuz they get beat by them. I don't care, for 6-8 grand you can get a srt-4 and beat cars that cost wayyyyy more!!!! I have had a few neons from base to a Srt-4 and I was surprised how quick they all were, even a EX bone stock had some get up. I beat many cars in my neons that even I didn't think I would even come close to beating!!

  • Evo guy cannot drive. Or launch

  • Turbocharged fool

  • SRT-4's are supercharged Neons, with it also being modified of couse it's going to win against an evo if the evo is stock!

  • Its is really the srt-4 faster than an evo?

  • @titiripumpin No, in this video, that is a completely bonestock Evo, going against most likely a stage 2 srt-4.

  • @RabungJ Out of the srt-4 owners i've met and hung out with compared to the evo owners a lot more of them have but much more chill.

  • this is a dumb argument evo is amazing car and so is the srt. I own an srt and i go pretty much even with evos that have the same mods i lose off the line but have a better top end they balance out in the end they are both great cars

  • @RabungJ Don't get me wrong i love evo's i'm deploying in a couple of months and when i get back i'm looking at an evo or an srt-4 and right now power for dollar on the srt-4 is just amazing. They're not that expensive anymore, and they're not that expensive to mod. Plus with it being only FWD you will see more power to the wheels. You should do your homework before you bash on something you really don't know much about.

  • @thedaver08 Good luck with deployment. However, I also must add, good luck wasting your money on a spinning piece of trash that looks like a fat blonde with zits growing on her zits deserves to be driving.

  • @RabungJ nope, the whole powertrain on an srt-4 is completely different than a neon. The only thing that is the same is the body and the frame. Different motor with a turbo on there. 04-05's were suppose to put down 235-245 to the crank they've been known to dyno those to the wheels. with very little modifications for instance, upper+lower intercooler pipes, aftermarket wastegate 3' downpipe, intake, free flowing exhaust, upping the boost on the stock turbo to about 16-17 psi srt's will run

  • lmaooo

    the dodge worked that azn smart car

  • @RabungJ

    LMAO my stock 04 srt beat a modded 03 evo from a dig and roll, it doesn't matter what you have if you can't drive. That's not the only time my neon has put an evo down, their are plenty douches that drives both cars. Both cars deserve respect, just because a bunch of morons drive awd cars thinking it will make up for their lack of skill is no different then some lil punk with a modded srt racing a stock evo to make himself feel fast.

  • so lets cut all the speculation off what exactly is done to the slightly modded srt ? lol from the looks of it i can prob guess the boost is kicked up to about 20 lol ?

  • Its pretty funny how you say you have to "bribe" the guy with gas money, then second guess yourself by looking under his hood asking "Is it stock? Is it stock?" Come play that game with me and my friends. We will show you whats up.

  • there is no way in hell that a piece of shit neon can pull a evo like what happend here. the neon was "slightly moded" so lets "slightly mod" the evo and i would bet the evo would smoke the piece of shit srt 4 by at least 7 car lengths. but then again, when the evo would b ahead and the driver let off the throttle the fuckin neon of couse would catch up and EVENTUALY pass the evo then claim victory. that piece of shit neon is nothing more that dodge tryin 2 get n 2 the import scene to makemny

  • not an evo mr but they are both great.......... srt4 and evo almost share the same stuff with each other

  • @Hmongpersononly WTF do they share?

  • still a fucking neon.

  • @RabungJ Lol, but you cant argue that Srt-4s arnt fast... becuase they are Same with evos

  • Kid in the SRT-4 looks like a fag

  • that SRT-4 smoked that Evo

  • The kid in the evo has no idea of how to drive his car.

  • To the person who said that it has a minimum of a GT3076r turbo on it is fucking retarded. No joke you have got to be mentally challenged to believe that. To the guy xd8x, you say it has a ported stocker but that SRT-4 would spin the tires from a roll and a hell of a lot more from a dig so I call bullshit on that also. This SRT-4 probably has intake, exhaust, and maybe a WGA and that's it. It weighs less than the Evo and puts down about the same amount of power if not more. Some people are dumb.

  • I wouldn't say that mod for mod the Evo wins you dumb fuck. Stock vs stock I wouldn't say an Evo wins all the time either. It depends on the drivers and it depends on if they go from a dig or roll... there's many factors while racing.

  • @TrentB924 That more depends on the drivers, because stock for stock, with drivers that know how to drive the damn cars, an Evo will smoke an SRT-4, comparing a modded car vs a non-modded car is ridiculous, and I highly doubt this SRT-4 is "slightly" modded, there is no way an SRT-4 should pull away from an Evo like THAT if it was only "slightly" modded...

  • @Nagidar23

    stock for stock with equal drives the Evo 8 will NOT smoke the SRT-4... it would be a close run...

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  • Respond to this video... Put the same skill level drivers in both cars and the Evo will win all of those scenarios. Call me an idiot i really don't care when I'm the one who actually knows what I'm talking about from experience. I'll race anyone on here in my Evo. Unlike this guy mine isn't stock and I know how to drive, not just race dangerous combination ;). what are you gonna do when something is in the way of your straight line for all you drag racers out there :P.

  • love the people who buy these nice cars and can't afford to keep the gas in the tank...

  • Haha...Its to be lightweight man dont you know!

  • The Evo's driver was TERRIBLE.

  • A dig race showcases a vehicle's power and traction. A 12 sec SRT-4 would still get jumped by the Evo for a 100 ft or so, due to the SRT-4 being wrong wheel drive. The lack of AWD is factor in many SRT-4's losing races, but also allowed the car to be sold for under 20K. As far as comparing the Neon vs a Mitsubishi Lancer from a quality standpoint. I considered the argument to be ridiculous. They are both econoboxes, and in stock form neither are star performers in features and looks.

  • This a race between a bone stock Evo vs a Stock /mildly modified SRT-4. While the SRT-4 has 230hp, on a dynojet it often pulls more than that to the wheels. This is a rarity among production cars. A stock Evo IIV makes 276hp and after a 15-20% powertrain loss, they generally make about 240whp. Factor in a 300lb wieght difference. In a stock SRT-4 I have personally taken down several Evo's from a roll, that kind of race showcases a car's power to wieght ratio. Which the SRT-4 has the advantage in

  • BTW, the SRT-4 produces 230WHP. Dodge seriously underrated the horsepower figures probably so that people can get lower insurance rates. It makes 260 HP at the crank (flywheel). So, because of this, there's really a very minimal difference in WHP for both cars. Couple that with the fact that the SRT-4 has a lower weight and it will have a much higher chance of winning a race from a roll. If it's from a dig, however, the tables turn. The Evo is one second quicker from 0-60 MPH.

  • lets stop fighting lol. stock for stock yes the evo would win with awd. stock evo8 is running 289hp and stock 2004-2005 srt4 are running 230. but both cars are fun to drive . just that u can make the srt4 faster for less that you would spend on an evo

    but then again evos are 30k cars vs the cheap domestic. i like both cars tho.

    i drive a lancer and its the shit. but the evo way to expensive so if u want a remedy get an srt4 fast and cheap.=]

  • he has money for evo, but he doesnt have money for gas? wow rich white crackheads

  • Dude Evo's only cost like $15,000 used now adays. Thats cheaper than a new Honda civic. You dont have to be a baller to afford an evo anymore. Mitsubishi depreciate in value quickly because most people drive them hard as shit.

  • srt4 vs evo... dont interest me... because of same components in the engine makes it almost identical... just that srt is running front wheels while evos is running all... and believe me im a evo fan and i know... that srt4 can not push horses like an evo does... ^_^ just so you noobish should know... ^_^

  • I'd have to say you're wrong. The srt4 has much great displacement and can handle some decent boosting. The evo's engine build quality is a little higher though. They're both based around a 420 crysler engine though. With the Srt4 running a 420t and the evo running a 4g63t.

  • a stock evo vs a stock srt4 the evo would win and plus the evo driver sucks

  • bone stock evo vs modded srt  your cool

  • Evo also had a fmic, that man cant drive

  • all evo's have a fmic and that was a bone stock evo with a sorry driver

  • ? thats a stock front mount.

  • evo aint quite stok either it at least has a CAI

  • man put dat srt4 against my friends 650hp evo and den lets c wat happens... evos own srt4's

  • It's believeable. All I have is a Wastegate, FM Intercooler, Wideband and a DSP tune and I've beaten my cousin's e46 M3.

  • Modded SRT vs. Stock Mits? WOW!

  • pss ok they dont make srt4 anymore but it still kickass evo are awsome cars but srt4 are better....

  • u gave him gas money? u had to race him THAT badly? wow.. camera guy is a loser

  • They don't even make the crap srt4 anymore... nuff said.

    Plus that guy in the srt4 looks like a right twat.

  • They don't make a lot of cars any more.....nuff said.

  • Wow it Kept up From A Dig...

    Good Shit

  • ironically a friend of mine with a bolt on Sti and i ran into this very same evo years later. It too had bolt ons so what we did was his friend drove the evo and i drove the Sti.....the catch was the car owners would ride shotgun in the other car. It was funny watching the evo owner's reaction as we walked his evo in the Sti then to top it off i 4 wheel drifted the car with ease just before dropping him off. His reaction.....priceless. Its moments like that which remind me why i love cars

  • evo driver noob.. jajaj

  • Evo driver is an amatuer!lol

  • Yeah but you put the same amount of money into that Evo that is in that Srt and that Evo would of been gone boi plus the guy driving the Evo cant shift for shit

  • blah blah the Evo is @ least 14k more

  • ported stocker bro...

  • i filmed this video and the srt4 in it is a ported stocker with big wheel upgrade aswell as supporting bolt ons. Yes we were picking on a stock 8 but it was to show everyone that they are not invinsible ;)

  • You do know that what you just said didn't make sense right? If you had picked on a modded evo then what? you'd say theyre invincible? wtf

  • That was all driver skill and error. No srt will beat an evo off a launch. evo needs to learn how to launch better and shift better. haha at least the evo got some gas out of it!! American rice FTL wish that would of been me driving mine

  • LOL god dam rmullenaux just roasted the evo driver lol dam. the evo driver jsut failed at life. GO srt got one my self not a bad car at all.

  • stock ass evo vs modified srt4 from a roll who u think would win...this race is retarded from the start to make it fair run him from a dig u tool, at least that way the evo pulls a bit before u pull on him, or u wanna race a "stock" evo come see me ill run u for fun n u can put some 91 octane in my tank too hahah

  • @dastallion420951 dude....they did run from a dig.

  • Stock EVO with a shitty driver that doesn't know how to launch an EVO from the dig!!! You are not worthy of such an amazing car! You make the "REAL" EVO fraternity want to slap the shit out of you. Trade it in immediately and get yourself a KIA....you stupid fuck.

  • agreed

    or at least learn to fuckin drive and build your evo up so you dont lose to a neon again... i mean i like neons but you drivin an EVO!!! you got standars to meet man and u aint meetin em

  • mopar for life...srt 4 the win OWNED

  • MOPAR

  • wow 25psi is badass ive ridin in a fully rebuilt race neon that was pushing 35+ psi street legal that was running the biggest turbo they made for the srt non staged

  • it's obvious the guy in the Evo can't drive for shit

  • doesn'y have to do with the model, the only thing that's has to do is :

    THE DRIVER!

  • i agree when u have both the same car.

    or hosepower and torque or w/e.

    but if a 160 hp vs a 500 hp.

    its mostly about the car now.

    but if ur talking about this race..

    depends how much they are boosting.

    and 4wd are suppose to be slower from roll.

    say's people i know.

    idk NICE RACE<---------

  • NEON, THE BEST CAR WITH 4 CILYNDER

  • u mean "neon, the best STOCK car with 3 cylinder".

    yeah STOCK<---

    and under 20k.

  • JAJA losers. Neon THE BEST, Lancer DOWN

  • nice vid...wasnt even close!

  • hahaha! you damn kids and your peace of shit fords!

  • it's called a Cobra, and it's the most badass car around, it was made by FORD

  • lol yeah right your a tool if you believe that...

  • haha alright, lemme throw this in cause well...i have to, my 2002 FORD ESCAPE will eat these tin cans ALIVE!!!

  • thanks for the info, now move along.

  • and for the record... this thing is about as suped up as you can possibly get an srt-4. Last time I rode in it, it was puttin out 425hp at the wheels with about 25psi of boost!

  • iv ridden in this srt-4, its fucking sick! It blows the doors off almost anything out on highway 100 (as demonstrated here with the evo!)

  • lol was this for real?

  • thats funny all u guys promotin srt this srt that, who cares if u run almost 400 hp, ur car is only quick from a roll....n how many of u guys go to the track and ask if u can start from 10mph, guarantee ill take u srt guys on here...ill run ya for fun at the track...by then my evo should be tuned about 450awhp

  • i like my evo better than my srt4

  • To be honest... I would take an EVO over an SRT4 anyday just like most SRT drivers but since I bought my SRT as my daily driver I have loved every minute of it.

  • I wouldn't.

  • Yeah I agree with NYCSRT4, I wouldn't say "most", I'd rather own a SRT-4. $40,000 for a Mitsu? I'll pass.

  • Ya speaking of SRT haters... I had some fuckin POS Mazda MX-5 with a fartcan revving at me wanting to race my 04.  What a waste of gas

  • OMG!!!!! Dont you people have anything better to do then be like well my EVO well my SRT, guess What?! its peoples own prefence what they want to drive and what they can afford. personally i drive a slighty modded SXT auto So FUCK you other guys, DODGE ALL THE WAYY BITCHES!!!! btw i love when cars pull up to me and rev up their engines, i just laugh to myself and show them my new led taillights ; )

  • hahaha, hell yea man

  • strait up bro tell this mother fuckers haha

  • wow nice vid but that was not a slightly modded srt. and the evo driver sux

  • "can you put out that cigarette please...this is a gas station." what dumbasses who smokes at a gas station?

  • Slightly modded my ass, and evo driver can't launch and doesnt brake boost. Gimme the keys to that Evo!! It will be driven properly.

  • The Evo driver blows!

  • Sorry that Evo can't drive for shit. He should have easily outlaunched the SRT-4

  • looks like u like the evo better because u showed the evo but not ur car

  • whats under the hood of the srt 4?

    poor evo by the way.

  • srt 8====D (0)=evo lol evo sucksssssssss!!!!

  • lol Srt-4>Evo....

  • both are fast cars, both are nice.. i own a mopar stage 3 srt-4, the evo is a great car ridin in both.. but, evos are overrated for 30k

  • LOLOLOLOLOL,

    What do you drive?

  • i drive a BMW m3 turbo wanna think again if this shyty cars could beat my car

  • Post a vid of your so called m3, I just find it funny how everyone says rhey have a turbo m3, or any other car that may cause 50 plus

  • This video is really hard to believe. I own an srt4 and can't pull an evo as easily as he did,and from a dig I get destroyed, from a roll I usually win but not by alot maybe 1 car length or so not like that.

  • I like both cars, the srt more but i would probably say that the drive of that evo juz sucks at shifting, cuz that was crazy how he pulled on him

  • the neon srt-4 wasnt created to compete witht he evo and sti it was to compete with other import tuners, and set a scene for it in america... and look at the price difference, for the 18k u spend on an srt-4 u can send the extra 12-15k to make it way faster,nicer,and handle better than any evo... theres no need to bash american cars when the new viper and zr1 basically stomps every other european/japanese car made

  • Skyline R34?

    Might wanna reconsider.

  • that evo is not even trying u can tell the evo would smoke him

  • yea the evo driver sucked balls, he would definitly had him if he could drive.

  • smoked...

  • the kid in the evo couldnt drive to save his life...

  • THATS SO SAD 18K VS @ LEAST 30K

  • I know right!

  • = acr2nv

    i filmed this video and hosted it on srtforums back in 2004. Any questions please feel free to ask

  • noo joke but lancer is way faster den neon the driver in lancer is shit lol seriously btw is dat neon urs?? anywyas nicee race

  • UM so from a roll FWD>AWD go from a dig and even a below par evo driver like the one in the video should win. and whoever says the neon can handle anywhere close to the evo really needs to learn about cars. there is a reason evos and stis have become icons for rediculous performance cars and srt-4s are no longer made.

  • id like to see the ams evo in here and...

    does the neon take preniun gas and does the evo take premium?

  • lets c a race with the 2009 evo and the 2009 srt-4!! oh! wait thay dont make neons any more!!....... lol

  • bull!!! fake vid

  • Can I just say this video is quite cool, the SRT obviously has more power than the EVO but with only FWD has trouble putting the power down.

    SRT is the fastest production FWD in the world, but id still rather have the EVO.

    View all comments if you dont agree and want to slate me, Ive probably covered your point already...

  • i stongly agree

  • wrong again the srt4 has the best of both worlds of putting power down. Lets see hmm okay with have simple modifications to do to out cars we have.

    The NDE tcs traction control system which eliminates wheelspin completely for us as we floor it. And its adjustable on different level settings 10 being the most aggressive.

  • And we also have the mopar toys bezel which fits in the dash and looks like stock where we can adjust the boostlevels to our liking according to the weather /racing etc. So we dont have half the problems that most people think we have as far as putting power down to the ground. Please do more research if you care to. Would you rather have the evo becuase you want to or because you see everyone else with it so you decide to get on the bandwaggon,

  • That sounds nice to have in car, but the EVO has much more sophisticated systems, active yaw control for example. Its TC is also more complex.

    Given the same levels of tuning the EVO will always win.

    The quickest way to accelerate is with about 5% wheelspin. TC on a FWD will just make a good driver slower. Its a good safety feature though.

    I dont particularly love EVOs or hate SRTs I just think they are very different machines and while this SRT wins this drag, it loses overall for me.

  • "Sophisticated systems" doesn't always mean faster. Nissan GTR is basically a computer but it loses to the ZR1 and SRT-10 ACR which are basically light cars with a big engines. The EVO cost twice the amount of a SRT-4 so of course it's going to perform better and be more technical. But I wouldn't spend $40,000 on a Mitsubishi. If I had $40,000, I'd be in a BMW 1 series.

  • I didnt say it meant faster did I? Indeed I actually said the SRT wins the drag. I think you should have replied to h22sparkle or just read my post again.

    I dont think Id buy an EVO with my own money either, but I certainly wouldnt be seen dead in a 1 series!

    A lotus Elise, Porsche Boxter S, BMW 335i, Monaro Ls1V8, SaabTX etc are all the same price new! You could even get a 30k mile Ferrari 355...

  • yo do you have one? if so how is it? and hows the insurance?

  • that guy just doesnt know how to drive

  • It all depends on the circumstances. FWD/AWD/RWD has their highs and lows in different conditions. You can't say one is better than the other because I'd hate to have AWD in a 1/4 mile race, I'd hate to drive RWD in the rain and snow and I'd hate the fact that FWD car tires wear quicker than the others. They all have disadvantages and advantages. Tokyo Drift comes out and now everyone wants to claim AWD, bunch of posers.

  • Actually... AWD systems are greater then FWD and RWD systems only to a certain extent.  When you start talking 9 second cars and such... awd has a real problem hooking. You can't warm the tires up and with all that power, they just spin. In my opinion, low 10 second cars and AWD go together excellent. Anything faster, better off with a modded suspension/good tires RWD setup. That >>>>> AWD any day.

  • evos are nice and all but I think the driver of the evo needs to take a rape shower after this beating by a neon.

  • another thing 230 hp on srt-4 is underated it's more like 255 hp in the magazines cause they dont tell you because then mitsubishi,subaru,chevy,masda,­vw would all then know what true hp srt-4 would have and they didn't want to do that

  • also talking about the new supercars coming out and how much horsepower they all got does not really matter cause the srt already has the awd cars raped no matter hp yes maybe not on a dig but duhh everybody knows why ALL WHEEL DRIVE HOOKS duhh...but has to push all four axles which slows it down after the 60 foot it done!the only car even gonna come close to the srt-4 are the turbo cobalt ss only because lighter car almost same engine but putting out more hp

  • your right its a neon and that evo got fuckin ass raped by it so keep telling your self it's a neon it's a neon fuckin retards

  • "as long as they are goin strait the srt4 is a beast but throw it a corner and its over..."

    How do you know? You've never driven an SRT-4 before but you're so knowledgeable about the car. You fake ass tuners kill me with that. Next time you watch a SCCA Pro Racing event and you see the SRT-4 coming in the top 3, remember that stupid comment you left.

  • wow da dude in da evo cannot drive...dont even know wow to launch an all wheel drive.. tisk tisk.. disgrace to evos

  • i wasnt expecting the srt4 to win

    as long as they are goin strait the srt4 is a beast but throw it a corner and its over

  • Lol give the SRT a corner and it will be off. Drag races are boring. Plus, it's still a neon chassis. Take it to a track and the Evo will eat it.

  • yet another ignorant comment from someone who does not know. have you ever seen an SRT-4 at a track. try going to VIR sometime and you will see 600HP SRT-4s tearing up s curves and corners.

  • Really, SRT or no SRT- it's still a Neon chassis, FWD. Dodge aren't known for their attention to detail and technology development. How is it gonna put down 600hp and with all that weight in the front? It's gonna understeer like crazy. I'm sorry, but give me the World Rally class Evo anyday. I was on some SRT-4 forum the other day.. load of kids thinking they could beat an Aerial Atom. I mean, really.... it's a NEON.

  • You're talking World Class Rally car with a street based production car. Of course the Evo is a beast on rally racing, but c'mon. You are comparing apples with...pears? LoL. Anyway. I love the Evo too, but SRT-4 is a fun car regardless.

  • wow tht was rather intresting. i agree with bad69 id take a evo over a srt-4 if i had the chance

  • The evo got raped imo. Though i'd choose an evo over a srt-4 if I had the choice

  • srt-4 all day long

  • of course the evo got it from a dig. awd rapes fwd

  • No, the AWD talon doesn't rape a SRT-4. An AWD with more horsepower rapes FWD.

  • I love srt

  • Try Evo 9, WRX STI, VW R32 and BMW 135i vs SRT-4 to race all together

  • one car magazine says that new Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9, new Subaru Legacy WRX STI, new Volkswagen R32 and new BMW 135i are supercars than the SRT-4s.

    EVO 9 whp 291 Horspower, WRX STI 305 Horsepower, R32 250 Horsepower, 135i 300 Horsepower faster than SRT4s 230 Horsepower.

  • All those cars you listed cost more than $30,000 too. SRT-4 = $20,000. And it's the new Evo 10. I'm satisfied with the performance I got for the $15,000 I spent on my SRT-4. I had a lot of money left over for my bolt-ons.

  • Umm.. someone in the video obviously isn't too smart.. "Put out that cigarette, your at a gas station".

    Does he realize that a cigarette CANNOT ignite fuel? The ciarette isn't even close to hot enough!! ANYONE who has gone to school for Automotive Technology (or whatever they may call it in your state) or anyone who has an ASE Certification knows that!!

  • My A6 would kick both of their asses.

  • hahah you wanna know whats funny is that my buick riviera which is supercharged and 2000 lbs can keep up with these cars and thats stock....

  • everyones an expert apparently.....DBAGS for sure, i drive a ranger so idk what this thing you guys call speed is. lmao

  • i dont think theres anything wrong with fwd... so people are just being douchebags although... although is key here... how slight.. was that srt4 modded to beat an evo... the driver of the evo either wasnt great or you did a little more to your srt than you claim

  • haha. "hey you in the red shirt. put out that ciggarette"

  • LOL

  • Everyone is a car expert. Always claiming someone can't drive yet they don't have videos of their own.

  • Both drivers didn't know what they were doing.. my SRT stock motor cannot powershift 2nd w/o LOUDLY barking the tires. (Z rated 8.5" wide drag radials.. and no you cannot fit 8.5" wide tires on the stock rims.. those have been changed, but engine and tranny are stock)

    HOWEVER!!! I have raced an Evo 8 (MR edition) on the 1/4 mile. I won by about a half car wholeshot. The evo has trouble getting off the line due to its AWD. 50hp more.. but alot more drivetrain to turn.

  • the sxt cant powershift 2nd either without soining. to much tourqe

  • When have you ever read a magazine article comparing srt-4 to evo's or sti's? let me know when you never find it. Only douchebag srt-4 owners try to compare when we mod our srt pos we can bet evo all day long well no shit sherlock! key words are you have to mod to keep up with us in the first place!

  • spend less money initially then mod and STILL come out cheaper, idk but money is an important thing to me id rather save than spend

  • Bullshit if your cars was slightly modded. If you would have had a stock neon you would have had your ass handed to you. Its a front wheel drive pos.

  • And the evo is a AWD pos. Clutches that bomb at 30K miles, horrible trans. You can sink like 1500 dollars into a Neon SRT4 with a basic power upgrade and beat Evo's all day. That's a fact. Deal with it.

  • Yeah but then you'd have a neon.

  • the srt was fully done up, and the stock evo had a bad driver. waste of time for me all these gino's can't drive