es gibt in meinem Leben 3 musikalische Schübe: der erste war die Kunst der Fuge von Bach, der zweite der Mathis von Hindemith, der dritte dieses Streichquartett. Was muß Margaret Price eine gewaltige Musikalität besitzen, daß sie den Part so "richtig" singt. Die meisten Sänger, Dirigenten, Musiker, die sich an Schönberg heranmachen, verstehn ihn überhaupt nicht. Man hörts einfach, als läse jemand in einer ihm fremden Sprache, indem er die Worte nachbildet.
If this fact has already been stated elsewhere, sorry for the redundancy. This is the first moment of atonality for Schoenberg. In this last movement of the string quartet, he does not give a key signature. The first time I heard this piece in my third year music theory class at Peabody Conservatory - it blew my mind and penetrated my soul. I was lucky enough to sing it some years later. The poem is amazing as well. A perfect union between music and lyric.
I came across this whilst reading about Modernism for my uni course. It is quite an important piece of music, historically; I have to agree that it is pretty frickin' scary though.
"Not based around a key chord". You can have degrees of atonality, I think, from very formally tonal music such as Mozart or Bach through less tonal experiments of the late romantic composers like Debussy and Ravel, through to Schoenberg, who started out as a typical late romantic composer, but steadily abandoned traditional harmony until he arrived at 12-tone music which has rules to make it atonal. This piece sounds like early stuff to me; it's crunchy, but still sounds quite romantic.
Can someone explain to me what atonal music is? For someone who knows nothing about music (I forgot everything I learnt about music in school years ago). I love this piece though...
Can someone explain to me what atonal music is? For someone who knows nothing about music (forgot everything I learnt about music in school years ago)...
It's great how atonal music get's outs types of feeling which other kinds of music barely can. I personally really love the vocals. And the painting aswell! ^^ Does anyone know if the piece is inspired on the painting, our maybe the other way around? In my expirience there's a kind of simmularity between them.
People don't like the real times they live in.Artistic truths uncover these.Schoenberg says u listen to him just like Bach or anyone.Appreciate it as the sound of now.It is not happy there are manic moments there is so much more of the human situation here.It ain't adorno and you can be ablack guy like me raised with gospel and lots of baroque&classical stuff who grew to love Skryabinand Wagner. This quartet is a good place to start.WebernVar got me hooked.It's just awareness.
Speaking of artistic liberation, wouldn't it be absolutely fascinating to see this liberation applied in the area of linguistics? Think, a language stripped of many "conventional" idioms in grammar just like Arnold Schoenberg's music which is stripped of tonality.
@thecritiquevirtuoso I don't know if "liberation" is the term I'd use for something that would take such considerable mental effort to maintain when all you want to do is write a poem.
Maybe the gratest piece of music, of all time! The whole Quartett is amazing but the music in connect with the words by Stefan George in the 3. and 4. movement are beyond belief - absorbing.
I enjoyed a lot this nice little piece by the master Schoenberg. It is hard to dance with it, though. I played it at a party last night and it was not very popular. Next time I'll try Pierre Boulez or ABBA
Your comment demonstrates to me that you have no musical background, for if you did you would comprehend the genius behind these works. Schoenberg is well respected among those who ARE knowledgeable about music for his successful attempt to pioneer an entirely new style of classical composition. His works utilize the serial style of composition that he invented, leading it to sound foreign to your novice ears. If you feel I am unjust in my estimation of your musical experience, please reply.
udadni, if a chef served you something that tasted like dog food - you would undoubtedly complain. he would then tell you your taste buds and olfactory senses are uncultured, and you are not sophisticated enough to appreciate his genius. my point being, elitism and snobbery in subjects as subjective as music and food is beyond puerile.
while I do appreciate what schoenberg brought to the 20th century musical stage, I still think his music is crap. to each his own.
It seems rather casual that commentators who go against the majority gets bashed on, especially on youtube.
While there is a subjective aspect in music, as sbrafk pointed out, the objective side is important as well. One could appreciate Schoenberg, or just post-modernism in general, intellectually, without any obligation to like it emotionally, which is the case with sbrafk as well as myself.
Imposing your intellectual theology on other's emotional domain is what intellects don't do.
the last 2 movements of this quartet are sung by a soprano, an innovation in those days, to which many people weren´t used to, and it raised protests, this 4th movement is named Exstasy. the work was premiered on december 21, 1908, these 2 poems were extracted from a book of simbolist poet Stefan George
es gibt in meinem Leben 3 musikalische Schübe: der erste war die Kunst der Fuge von Bach, der zweite der Mathis von Hindemith, der dritte dieses Streichquartett. Was muß Margaret Price eine gewaltige Musikalität besitzen, daß sie den Part so "richtig" singt. Die meisten Sänger, Dirigenten, Musiker, die sich an Schönberg heranmachen, verstehn ihn überhaupt nicht. Man hörts einfach, als läse jemand in einer ihm fremden Sprache, indem er die Worte nachbildet.
DrHepp 2 months ago
If this fact has already been stated elsewhere, sorry for the redundancy. This is the first moment of atonality for Schoenberg. In this last movement of the string quartet, he does not give a key signature. The first time I heard this piece in my third year music theory class at Peabody Conservatory - it blew my mind and penetrated my soul. I was lucky enough to sing it some years later. The poem is amazing as well. A perfect union between music and lyric.
MTegzes 5 months ago
Beautiful.
AmgNoWai 5 months ago
I came across this whilst reading about Modernism for my uni course. It is quite an important piece of music, historically; I have to agree that it is pretty frickin' scary though.
burmesearmy 6 months ago
Clearly he influenced jazz and vice versa.
ebonics4everyone 7 months ago
A drop of water with perfect synchronicity into the pan I made my sixth dinner of boiled oats in.
bongfodder 8 months ago
@maocharlisme I don't know about the painting. Maybe Schoenberg's? The song's words come from Stefan George's poem, I think called 'maximin'
DCBSupafly 9 months ago
"Not based around a key chord". You can have degrees of atonality, I think, from very formally tonal music such as Mozart or Bach through less tonal experiments of the late romantic composers like Debussy and Ravel, through to Schoenberg, who started out as a typical late romantic composer, but steadily abandoned traditional harmony until he arrived at 12-tone music which has rules to make it atonal. This piece sounds like early stuff to me; it's crunchy, but still sounds quite romantic.
tjrcutts 1 year ago
Can someone explain to me what atonal music is? For someone who knows nothing about music (I forgot everything I learnt about music in school years ago). I love this piece though...
Sandcat87 1 year ago
Can someone explain to me what atonal music is? For someone who knows nothing about music (forgot everything I learnt about music in school years ago)...
Sandcat87 1 year ago
This is the scariest frickin music I've ever heard.
HLAX41 1 year ago
@HLAX41 Don't think so. Try Sofia Gubaidulina or Penderecki's "Saint Luke's Passion"
Faramir122 7 months ago
It's great how atonal music get's outs types of feeling which other kinds of music barely can. I personally really love the vocals. And the painting aswell! ^^ Does anyone know if the piece is inspired on the painting, our maybe the other way around? In my expirience there's a kind of simmularity between them.
maocharlisme 1 year ago
this is the first of his works that i have enjoyed
camoflux 1 year ago
People don't like the real times they live in.Artistic truths uncover these.Schoenberg says u listen to him just like Bach or anyone.Appreciate it as the sound of now.It is not happy there are manic moments there is so much more of the human situation here.It ain't adorno and you can be ablack guy like me raised with gospel and lots of baroque&classical stuff who grew to love Skryabinand Wagner. This quartet is a good place to start.WebernVar got me hooked.It's just awareness.
lovesGenet 1 year ago 2
@lovesGenet This is an enjoyable response: always exploring music.
aamusc 1 year ago
Speaking of artistic liberation, wouldn't it be absolutely fascinating to see this liberation applied in the area of linguistics? Think, a language stripped of many "conventional" idioms in grammar just like Arnold Schoenberg's music which is stripped of tonality.
thecritiquevirtuoso 1 year ago
That already exists.
It's called skatting
MedusaVD 1 year ago
@thecritiquevirtuoso I don't know if "liberation" is the term I'd use for something that would take such considerable mental effort to maintain when all you want to do is write a poem.
Gaiacarra 1 year ago
@thecritiquevirtuoso I think we call that Finnegans Wake.
Haeronthegreat 1 year ago
@thecritiquevirtuoso you can find that anywhere on the internet.
31337h4x0r3 1 year ago
This is just another example of the liberation of artistic forms- from Schoenberg to Jackson Pollock.
thecritiquevirtuoso 1 year ago
it's so pretty. (: it's not hard to listen to, which i think is schoenberg's greatest achievement here, considering that it's an atonic piece.
kisokushii 1 year ago
good as it gets!
richtrophicherbs 2 years ago
Maybe the gratest piece of music, of all time! The whole Quartett is amazing but the music in connect with the words by Stefan George in the 3. and 4. movement are beyond belief - absorbing.
"Ich fühle luft von anderem planeten"
miusow 2 years ago
I enjoyed a lot this nice little piece by the master Schoenberg. It is hard to dance with it, though. I played it at a party last night and it was not very popular. Next time I'll try Pierre Boulez or ABBA
thisisnotzimbabwe 2 years ago 32
Imagine ABBA covering Boulez.
DaZeuhlUndazir 2 years ago
@thisisnotzimbabwe
Try Daft Punk, Far East Movement, or LMFAO. Sure to get your next party jumpin'.
doriansgray 1 year ago
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this pice of "music" cant be called music...
BasketballKidNo12 2 years ago
Your comment demonstrates to me that you have no musical background, for if you did you would comprehend the genius behind these works. Schoenberg is well respected among those who ARE knowledgeable about music for his successful attempt to pioneer an entirely new style of classical composition. His works utilize the serial style of composition that he invented, leading it to sound foreign to your novice ears. If you feel I am unjust in my estimation of your musical experience, please reply.
udadni 2 years ago 3
udadni, if a chef served you something that tasted like dog food - you would undoubtedly complain. he would then tell you your taste buds and olfactory senses are uncultured, and you are not sophisticated enough to appreciate his genius. my point being, elitism and snobbery in subjects as subjective as music and food is beyond puerile.
while I do appreciate what schoenberg brought to the 20th century musical stage, I still think his music is crap. to each his own.
sbrafk 2 years ago
It seems rather casual that commentators who go against the majority gets bashed on, especially on youtube.
While there is a subjective aspect in music, as sbrafk pointed out, the objective side is important as well. One could appreciate Schoenberg, or just post-modernism in general, intellectually, without any obligation to like it emotionally, which is the case with sbrafk as well as myself.
Imposing your intellectual theology on other's emotional domain is what intellects don't do.
mrvexingparse 2 years ago
to paraphrase Ives, stand up and use your ears like a man.
bassninjatroy 2 years ago
That's an absurd contradiction! Thankyou, it's quite funny! It can be a piece of music, but not be music?
trevorheywood 2 years ago
atonal, "but" gentle: the beginning of the voice is quite d-minor, the favorite key of schoenberg
deadcalledpark 2 years ago 6
This must be a good performance. Even though I am familiar with the music, this is the first time it gave me goose bumps.
AthensBenin 2 years ago 3
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LemonDancer 2 years ago
the last 2 movements of this quartet are sung by a soprano, an innovation in those days, to which many people weren´t used to, and it raised protests, this 4th movement is named Exstasy. the work was premiered on december 21, 1908, these 2 poems were extracted from a book of simbolist poet Stefan George
beethomozart 2 years ago
good!
aphalga 2 years ago
an amazing bit of music, i think this video is a little quite however
DarkShroom 3 years ago