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  • @JWatley1...You should Hit Me Up, I Write , got Some thing maybe we can work on osoriogold@aol.com and if i didnt make my point before your CLASSIC!!!! MAD RESPECT WOMAN!!!!

  • @JWatley1.......I'm Just Saying NE Did it with In House Rappers Mike Bivins/Ron Devoe, Obviously R. Trasvant was lead Vocal but on the Following Tracks you Sometimes Had Everybody Rap...1983 Candy Girl/Pop Corn Love, 1984 Cool it Now, 1985 Count Me Out, 1989 N E Heart Break....again your place is cemented just saying the Formula of Singing with a Rap Break was Done earlier Now if your talking about a straight up feature not in house than yeah your it.....

  • @JWatley1, it would take to much time to come up with a fake id a spit facts like you did so im guessing this is really you and with that let me say i got MAD RESPECT FOR YOU!!!! Your Work is TIMELESS and Yes my personal Fave is in fact Friends, i work Security in Club Liv and Arkadia in Miami and Every Now and Then I Have the DJ Drop That Track and People Still be Bumpin to It....Now i'm not Comparing You To NE at All i'm discussing the R&B/Pop-Rap/Hip Hop Merger

  • This Song is Still Hot but as far as being the First to Merge Pop/R&B with Rap/Hip Hop depends how you look at it cause New Edition was Doing this 8 Years before this song came out not complaining just wanted to know how you figured this was the first, Songs Hot

  • @osoriogold Documented in books 'Icons of Hip Hop Culture:An Encyclopedia of The Movement, Music, Culture Vol. 1 and "To The Break of Dawn: A Freestyle On The Hip Hop Aesthetic",William Jelani. How it's looked at is Pop/R&B with a rapper doing the custom 16 bar verse, the collaboration becoming a crossover Top 5 Pop, R&B, and Dance Hit. Such a pairing had no precedent so much so that American Songwriter from 89, called it "duet". I love NE, don't recall they had a pop hit w Rapper.

  • @osoriogold I'm just glad you like my song. It was written with a real life friends view by myself (lyrics and melody), Andre Cymone (music), Eric B./ Rakim (rap). I was a huge fan of Eric B and Rakim which is why I wanted them on this. My label back then didn't get it, but I'm glad they came around and let us proceed - and let me be me. The formula (for better or worse now) continues to be a staple in music as others have made it their own and excelled even further.

  • I doubt there are many modern DJ's that could add that scratching without over inking the cake and going wild on the crab. Eric compliments the song and keeps a nice rhythmic flow going without spoiling the track.

  • @juliadennehy sorry you been hurt by fake people, but there is a friend who will never hurt you and that's jesus christ. Straight up he is the best.

  • they sure will 

  • great song

  • she had dem sade eyebraws

  • Only one friend I can think of that stood by me thru tuff times and I will never forget and you know who you know who you are - Thank you my frriend

  • 'Friends.' Yeah right. NO SUCH THING. All my friends have tried to steal my boyfriend, lied, talked crap about me behind my back. Like I need that! There is no such thing as friends. They are STRANGERS who will F you over to get what they want. That's LIFE. If you believe otherwise, trust me, you will pay for it in the end!

  • this is terr6nce22 and this song is still the bomb! and friendz r hard to find!!!!!! so b careful homie!

  • Um I Still have this song on a 45 & on a cassette ... That's Right!!! I'm old school! We put the needle on the Records when the song beats go like this! Love You Jody!

  • Classic Stuff !

    Eric B & Rakim ... ! My All Time Favourite Emcee & Producer :)

    I dunno who this Jody Watley is ....

    She is Good :)

  • @rjvernesto Jody Watley was the epitome of a gorgeous woman for a period of time. Hell, she is still fine as all hell.

  • true hip hop at itz fineness

  • @terr8nce22 No doubt!! This song along with the Chaka/Mellie Mel collabo paved the way for the so-called "Hip-Hop R&B genre. Nowadays r&b artists can't make a WHOLE cd without a rapper on it. It's getting played out. But I admit if I was a singer collaborating with a rap act, then I DEFINATELY would also choose Eric B&Rakim. That's a "No-brainer"! Jody knew what time it was. This is a good song by her,but Rakim stole the spotlight. After all they don't call him the" Microphone Fiend" 4nothing.

  • summer 1989

  • A classic...ALSO...very true!!! Strangers just disguised as your friends!!

  • Their speaking the "gospel" in this song, U ARE YOUR OWN TRUE FRIEND. And god/allah is you best friend!!! Anyone can let you down in life, don't have to be a friend, can be a partner, family member(s), kids, etc. Be good to yourself:)

  • Absolute truth in this video...even though at times I did the stabbing! LOL! Love this song and Ms. Jody , too! ;-) God Bless the 1980's!

  • Rakim's vocals need to be louder.

  • Happy Festive Season Everyone!

    While you are at it, was this song about you?

    If so,its never too late to change ones ways...

  • OK, everybody is saying how they have met FAKE friends. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN THAT PHONEY BOLOGNEY FRIEND. JUST REMEMBER YOU GET FRIED IN THE END WHEN YOU PRETEND TO BE.

  • I agree full-heartedly with Jody. Friends will turn out to be fair weather. Fair weather friends suck.

  • @vh2owall Then they're not really friends...PEACE.

  • Shit I used to chill in the NYC while this song was hitting in the clubs, I miss NY

  • have you ever been stabbed in the back yes I have by people i thought were my friends but just LIARS & BACKSTABBERS . steve austin said it best d.t.a DON'T TRUST ANYBODY.

  • Friends are supposed to be the ones that you can count on, but who hasn't been left hangin or turned their backs on? I can't really make out the lyrics, but it still makes you think. Didn't that other "Friends" song from the 70's say the same thing pretty much? Why is it such an issue???

  • Ron1972666 - dude - the truth! You think you have 'friends?' Sure. Nobody is your 'friend' when it comes to money or love. And if you think differently - good luck with that. You're going to get burned. Friends? No such thing.

  • realest thing ive ever heard

  • THIS IS SO TRUE I LOVE THIS SONG

  • Was this the first R&B song to have a rap cameo?

  • @piercdbruh Chaka Khan did it with Melle Me.

  • @nuneswhite Watley's was the first to include the rap custom verse akin to a duet and there was no precedent for the formula otherwise. Melle Mel did an intro only with Ms Khan both are distinguishable for those reasons.

  • nice miusic

  • Best song ever!!!!

  • This is true. Extremely sad but true.

  • the trick is to click to ripify (dot) com to get this mp3.

  • #9 Hot 100, #1 Dance and #3 R&B Hip Hop. Well done from a classy lady and artist then and now.

  • use to be a quiet storm BUT now it's raining....

  • It would be great if someone could get the video from Jody and Rakim called "Off The Hook." It makes me mad that it is not up. It would be to have it with great quality as well.

  • How true- I've lived this almost as is... damn shame these judas bitches!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rakim. One of the smoothest MC's to date.

  • HIt#3 soul, #9 pop in Billboard. God bless!

  • A great collabo between Jody Watley and Eric B. and Rakim. I really used to blast this joint in my dorm room alot......

  • Can't get this song out of my head. :)

  • Rakim was also a pioneer no hip hop artist wanted to mix with r & b. Back then it was sord of oil and water did not want to mix

  • Washed up Relic of the 80's. Became a Hard Core Black Racist in 2007, claimed "inspiration" by Obama and siad on MySpace that those who didn't support Obama were racists.

    How come Obama hasn't invited HER to the White House?

  • @AblePumper You have serious issues. As a longtime Watley fan i'd say you need to get a clue. Watley is STILL fab. I follow her formerly on Myspace (who goes there anymore) all of her blogs, Facebook, Twitter and so on your post is such BS and hater propoganda. She's always about love and unity. Your comment is nonsense typical online garbage.

  • I wasn't a big fan of this song as a kid, not sure why, it's great, and I absolutely respect the lyrics as an adult now. Love this video!

  • Lord, did this song hit home when it came out!!!! I'm over the drama, but the tune is still fresh as ever......back when rap was fresh and just coming into the mainstream

  • OOOOOH was I sweet on Jody in the 80's

  • Jody was the FIRST to feature rappers in song and video. find another artist who did this befor her? in pop, dance, r and b and rap...Jody is a pioneer!

  • @tallcoolone09 There was Chaka Khan's "I feel for you".

  • I'm glad YouTube is giving more comment space because I have a lot to say about this song and I may not even finish in one post. First of all...Good God!!! Jody's talents go beyond anything I can write. We all know that. Let me draw your attention to one Mr. Eric B. DO YOU HEAR THE CUTS AND BREAKS THIS CAT IS HEAVING AT US??? I don't know a DJ even now that can pull up next to him.

    Rakim. Rakim. Rakim. There is a world of out there missing it's king.

  • Part II of my post

    Part II of my first post

    Finally, I know everyone is going to groan collectively at my expense, but it's how I feel and I have to say it, so here goes...Not once did the N-word pop up in this song. Not once did I feel like a bitch or a ho. Thank you Jody, Eric, and Rakim. Music done properly. Well done.

  • this song speaks the truth to the fullest!!!

  • Maaannn..... are you kidding me?? for those who don't like this song, must be deaf blind and straight ignorant!!! THIS SONG IS THE BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YO JODY, ANDRE, ERIC AND RA. YA'LL ARRANGE THE REMIX AND "LET IT FLY PRODUCTIONS" OF NEW ORLEANS WILL PRODUCE THE VIDEO NO CHARGE!!!!!! HOLLA ........

  • 2 decades later this sonng still stands out! the message and jodys idea to feature RAKIM!! yeah, she was the first to feature rappers. how epocmaking she was. still my jam.

  • brings back memories of the days when it was safe to sit on the porch in the country in the 80"s

  • Man this was my jam back in the day..And it's the truth too..sad but true!

  • This song is tight as hell!!! Made even better by the smoothest of all time Erik B.!!! Big ups '89!!!

  • This song came out in the summer of 1989 just when I was going through what she was talking about in the song!!!!! I always loved the rap line "bite the hand that feeds" because it reminded me of my cat!!! This song's feature of soul mixed with rap worked very well back during a time where mainstream r&b had rap in the bridges, long before rap was mainstream with soul laced throughout!!! See my next review at Ashford & Simpson "I'll Be there for you"

  • yes i totally agree with you.i believe she was the first to feature a rapper in a pop\r&b song. plus!....she had vougers in the video befor Madonna did her Vogue video.

    right on Jody...a pioneer.

  • I have LOVED this song since it came out! I still have the cassette single! <3

  • this the first song that combined rap with singing a song

  • Brilliance of a special time period captured in this song. You had something new and fresh in a time period that was exciting. The technological breakthroughs of music and film were exploding and new sounds were emerging. Quality wasn't compromised and the end result was a terrific classic track. Jody Watley most definitely broke new ground with a tailored Rap verse in this song. Go 1989.....go 80's.

  • Hit #9 in Billboard. God bless!

  • What I like most about this track and Jody was the fact that she said she chose Rakim to rap on this because he was her favorite rapper at that time. Unlike today where many collaborations are done based on the current popularity of an artist rather than the true desire to work with an artist you think you would blend well with. this song shows the appreciation both artist have for each other. It works with this track.

  • Never ever would I let a person take advantage of the friends I love but when they see you got what they don't hell yeah they want it they didn't earn it all they got planned is how they can make what you got there extra action and mind you they give up no lead back so they never owe its on and paid in full.. the sad part is that it was not my doing they took your kindness for weakness and started a long life of nothing your way but lets see if I can not help you back on your feet whats not be

  • the best el mejor sonido de los ochentasssss ¡¡¡¡¡

  • OMG...I LOVED her look in this video.....totally loved it!!!!  Jody...one of a kind

  • oh yea and that dude Rakim was hot, respect. jody started a trend jay and beyonce anyone?

  • Ms. Watley wrote a kick ass song and gave you couture a combo much like a sucker punch, so unexpected. Ahead of it's time. Props.

  • Eric B and rakim make this song kick. I love his rap part in this video.. Love the 80's stuff.

  • an absolute truth! Friends will let you down, friends won't be around when you need them.

    I don't trust anybody anymore! Animals are man's real friend! They never ever let you down!

  • @Ron1972666 Yeah but don't be chillin with no lions or snakes or weasels!

    Aww peace out dawg

  • @Ron1972666 friends have let me down & backstabbed me & told lies to assholes.

  • @Ron1972666 I know right I have to agree. Growing up as a child/ teen I used to think having friends was everything, but found out they can stab you in the back. Now that I"m 29 I learned you don't have to be around a bunch of people or have alot of friends to make you happy. That is why I have maybe like 1 or 2 people I can call a friend.

  • "Friends will let you down. Friends won't be around. When you need them most where are your friends?" "Jealousy and envy reign. Never wanna see you get ahead. They just hold you back." This song is so true. I mean I have been blessed to have so many real friends in my life, but I have also had my share of so-called "friends," who really just didn't care when times were tough - didn't show the love and support they should have, like I did for them, and tried to hold me back in a lot of ways.

  • Jody was all that mattered fashionwise in the 80s... she had influence like no other. I still to this day wear big hoop earrings because of her LOL! Absolutely the best.

  • WHAT A TUNE!!! Check out that scratching

  • rakim looking MAD fresh

  • I think this lady married Andre Cymone, Prince's best friend from the early pre-fame years.

  • now thats what i call R&B!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jody rules that throne in her Gautier couture ...

    she still rules it!

    watch and learn....

  • this song and video was such a break thru at the time. now, its almost unheard of not to have a rapper in a song and video. right on jody!!!

  • This was the bomb!! OMG!! I'm feeling nostalgic for the good old days of music now.

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  • interesting..might check that out... i suppose i could sit thru Taylor Dayne...

  • Not confirmed whatsoever.

  • @jwatley1 whats not confirmed? shes gay? or something

  • and Madonna's Vogue video didn't come out til 1990...just had to mention that too...lol.

  • yea kikony...Jody was a pioneer man. she was the first to do this, and this was 1989! Jody is the bomb!

  • Hard core Rapper and drag queens in one video...Wow.

    Voguers and hip hoppers thrown in as well.

  • real music tasteful and hip pay attention youngsters

  • The cut is still hot 20 years later!!!

  • Great lyrics.

    Please do NOT suffer fools gladly for their friendship. They are seldom worth it and ALWAYS ends up costing you time that you can never get reclaim.

  • I don't know how anyone can criticize this classic song..true lyrics and we have ALL experienced shit friends and great friends. Jody sings it from her heart.

  • Well said BlueOpal. Sometimes even a cynic like me just has to tip the hat :)

  • under rated for sure. this WAS the first with the custom rap verses. the chaka and melle mel was just intro and supposedly a studio glitch which they kept. rakim tailored his rhyme to ms. watley's song acording to some recent hip hop history books. she was always ahead.

    the video is STILL FIRE. still a fan.

  • Another marker of great 90's era Hip-hop/R&B. I always thought this song was under rated.

  • This was from the 80's

  • attention SKANKS!!

    THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT!

    Sexy with CLASS and TALENT

  • at the time jodi watley was hipper than the hip, this was the first rap and singer colabaration i had seen at the time

  • I love this song Jody told it like it is.

  • how so craigthemack? hoepfully you're being sarcastic....... this is awesome!!

  • A Great Song About How Some Friends Can Really Be

  • a sing with meaning.

  • thanx for the vid jackie u rock girl !!!!!! ........... another one of my jams girl u know it :)

  • Sis 2 Sis U know it !!!!

  • This is the first song that had the fusion of rap and r&b that 99% of listeners acknowledge that was the first of its kind. It still has the WOW factor!

  • I think Chaka Khan's "I Feel for You" that had the first rap/r&b fusion.I know it was old school but it is what it is. That being said this vid does rock.

  • I had forgotten this song even existed. I watched a shalamar documentary and decided to go to itunes and download some shalamar and jody and came across this GREAT old song. LOOK INTO jody's MAKEOVER cd, she's still wonderful.

  • the best MC ever..... one of the best rappers ever..... one of the best songs ever by a great singer..... numero uno in my book ditto!!!!!!

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  • My favorite Jody song ?

  • my favorite jody watley song....

  • WORDS SO TRUE!!

  • Numero 1

  • Thiis wasn't the first time rap and r&b had been put together ( i think Melle Mel with Chaka Kahn " I feel for you " was) but it was the first time I think a singer reached out to a rap group for a song.( The producers snuck Melle Mel onto I feel for you) I always pictured New Edition smacking their heads saying "why didn't we do that ?"

    Nearly 20 years after its realease the truth in Rakim's rhymes on this song still rings true.

    Far as i'm concerned... CLASSIC record

  • This song was ahead of its time combining R&B with a rap interlude. Not too long after this song came out many songs both R&B and some rock had "remixs" with rap added to them.

  • Jealousy and Envy reign, they never want to see u get ahead.. How very sad but true!

  • Eric B. And Rakim:

    Too Good Of A Combo Together. Knock Anybody Out Today.

    You Used Kiss Me, Tell Me Ya Miss Me. Now You Try To Glaze Me Play Me And Miss Me?

    Haha, Crazy Lyrics.

  • friends are hard to find

  • yes they are :(

  • Fake friends are very easy to find. They are everywhere. Real friends - dunno - a myth.

  • and their are shallow friends. In the gay world, if u gain weight no one want to hang out with you.

  • So true! This song is the Mecca Don!

  • ...but now you try to glaze me, play me and dis me."

    classic hip pop from tha 80s. used to bump this in my mom's taurus wagon. that and kool moe dee.

    one.

  • real song, real message, real artists! i jammed to this song in high school and i still jam to it today.

  • Good old school tune, with some wisdom in there; as we mature, most of us learn what a true friend is and trim down the roster accordingly.

  • lol wasnt many if an hip hop artist spittin on r & b tracks let alone mainstream hits...rakim is the God emcee

  • Shit, I was 12 when this came in 1989. I can't believe this is 20 years old.  I remember when it was brand fucking new!!!!

  • We are the same age then, Im 31, I was 12 back in 89 too. Time flies, It seems like yesterday when I was listening to this song on my boom box lol, It's still da bomb in 2009. Song lyrics in this song is definitely a true story for me and made me see people in a different light.

  • This song speaks to your soul...we all know lots of so called friends that were no good!

  • It sure does, This song help you see how fake your so called friends could be, I had friends I grew up with as kids that I no longer talk too, Way to much drama. I got my own family now, I rather not deal with any friends.

  • Jody watley's prowess appear to be sweet success revenge over Howard Hewitt.

  • What did Howard Hewitt do to Jody? I thought they were cool.

  • I will never forget hearing this song by Jody Watley and when Rakim came in and spit his few bars of rymes I thought damm this dude flow is just sick ! MC god for real and that was some 20 years ago !

  • sorry BryianR i meet to give u athumbs up,not down.

  • god, the sound quality on this is awful!

    reupload, please!!!

  • Jody Watley! 150 Jody Watley's! She is so beautiful and so talented...not 2mention one of the SEXXIEST women on this planet! Jody is a true queen! I love U Jody!!! Great song, timeless message! Rakim is totally awesome!!!

  • I cherish my friends. A few good friends that stick around are far more valuable to me than any boyfriends that just come and go.

  • So groundbreaking. This was really the first song of it's kind. And Jody Watley got some sexy lips, too.

  • I love this song and I love Jody Watley!

  • Oh I loved this song. Jody Watley was hot, and Rakim was lyrically adept as usual! What a colloboration!

  • friends WILL let u down friends WONT be around...

  • YEP.. this was the first HIP HOP & R&B colabo

  • I tried but can't recall a r&B/hip-hop collabo before this. This is the first one I clearly remeber. One thing is for certain, this WAS definately the blueprint for all collabos to come. The format of the video and the song itself has been copied by every R&B/hip-hop collabo since.

  • No people...more than likely it was Shaka Khan's "Feel for You"

  • This was the first singer/rapper collaboration... that became commonplace by the late 1990s.

  • I use to love Jody Watley...she still looking fine too..

  • i remember this rhakim and jodi tore this up.....

  • For real, Rhakim's strong lyrics and Jody's r&b made this a no. 1 hit back in the day.

  • people if you remember, rakim was the first rapper to crossover with r@b. oh yeah, let's not forget the " the greatest lyrists ever"..

  • probably my favorite video of hers. The hair is amazing!

  • wow, i was like 11 years old when this vidoe came out. i remember it. good times when you a kid