The more I learn about Islam, the more confused I am. My Muslim friends are the most peaceful people I've ever had the privilege of knowing. It's clear that peace is a tenet of their faith. Then I hear stories like this & I'm puzzled as to how the Koran & Islam's teachings can foster such different attitudes/views While I can clearly see why Muslims would be so offended/outraged, the violent response seems to contradict what I've learned. And what happened to Cat Stevens & The peace train!!
The first two examples of what people did in response to Salman Rushdi's earlier books and characterisations just highlights the difference between civilised cultures and Islam. Two other people didn't like what was written so one banned the book and the other sued. The threat to kill shows a backward, uncivilised, tribal and animalistic mindset that belongs in the 7th century.
What a brave man. We need more people like him, Robert Spencer, Aayan Ali, Nonie Darwish, Brigitte Gabriel and others to help aid the decline of Islam.
Where did they get the books to burn them? The book had just been released! If you want to buy a book for $26.95 and choose to burn it soon afterwards, you be a 'fool'- Rushdie gets a financial reward.
Khomeini's first book was Kashf al-Asrar, aka Secrets Unveiled, was published in 1942 Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. Ayatollah Khomeini
Ayatollah Khomeini If they have intercourse with a cow and sheep and camel their [the animals] urine and dung becomes unclean and drinking their milk will also be unlawful and they [the animals] must be killed and burned without delay, and the person who had intercourse with them must pay money to the owner. Further, if he had intercourse with any beast its milk becomes unlawful. Fatwa #2632.
And this is going endear me to muslims, who think more irrationally than a crazy psychopath when a stupid Ayatollah gives them an order as if he was the last word of god!?
As a christian I love muslims...i love everyone. This does not mean though that I have the right to go around insulting people, but it does mean that I tell the truth that Jesus is the only way to heaven, which means all who trust in Jesus to take them to heaven are going there, whereas those who do not believe that Jesus is the only way, will not get to heaven.
Only those people who are written in the book of life are getting into heaven...is your name written in the book of life dear friend?
Narcistics seldom take criticism. Islam in this case. Truth is, that as true Christians follow Jesus's teaching so true muslims follow Muhammed. He was somewhat of a violent person. like against Jews in Khaybar. Mere brutality. Thus claims of Islam being for peace is just taqqiya - a lie.
Ironically islam keeps fulfilling the endtime prophecies of the Bible to a letter.
@DraughtOfPeace I have told "FACTS"... Fiction writings might have it's own style of perceiving but it Indicates towards some FACTS... Which is real...
So it's like THE KAMASUTRA(Indian sex novel)...lollll
(quote) Almansor, the German writer Heinrich Heine "Where they burn books, so too will they in the end burn human beings." He was referring to the burning of the Qur'an during the Spanish inquisition. People should never think it is a benign act, it symbolizes the literal desire to obliterate the very ideas that form a human being and place imaginary fetters. It is all so Orwellian or more aptly Fahrenheit 451.
Superstar2011 why don't you stand up to the bulls it ayatollahs or crooked leaders in the middle east, you domrealise thye have killed many housands while rushdie killed none. notice the ayatollahs always send someone else son to be a suicide bomber never their own. your just a coward.
@tomfynn you might want to check the bible, where the jews say and boast they have the right to kill, enslave, murder, and steal from their neighbors. notice they never kill poor pagans, thus we can ony conclude they are just bandits and its njo about god.
this guy is a cunt, he should be beheaded. fact is freedom of speech doesnt exist. press tv has been taken of the air about their views wheres freedom of speech here? ur being told a lie by the zionist culprits when will people wake up and realise the world is run by the devil.
Despite the complexities of this whole affair i still find myself at the end of this documentary saying 'all this over a book that 1 man out of over 6 billion people in this world decided to write'.
My take is that he was wrong to profess such views but that's his right and nobody should take his life just because they have a view that is different to his.
@TheKingyusuf250x Lol.. get an autograph from him on my copy of the Satanic Verses.. and if he has time for an ordinary fan like myself, then maybe a hear a few anecdotes over some tea.
There's serious hypocrisy in all of this. Why does Salman Rushdie get police protection whereas Ernst Zundel got put in jail? What Zundel wrote was evil and controversial, yes, but free speech applies to everyone. The Satanic Verses was as offensive to Muslims as Zundel's writings were offensive to Jews.
@TomFynn To a Palestinian who doesn't have the basic right of self-determination afforded to him because of Israel's occupation, his situation is as bad as the Holocaust. Perspective is everything. I'm not justifying what Zundel wrote. At the end of the day however, that's not the argument. It's what people take offense to. And to the Muslims it's as offensive as anything Zundel said or wrote is to the Jews.
@adi87tya Taking offence is not an argument, was not an argument and will never be an argument. What matters is what is true. And the truth is this: whatever happens to the Palestinians is not the same as the systematic extermination of six million people. Period.
@TomFynn That may well be. But freedom of speech doesn't exist so that I may say A but not say B. Freedom of speech exists so that people can say controversial things -- and if you don't agree with them you don't listen to them (or you condemn them) -- but you don't arrest people.
@TomFynn As far as the Palestinian situation is concerned, there has been ethnic cleansing there too; there has been killing and oppression there too. It may not be six million Jews, but whether it's six million Jews or thousands of Palestinians I hold both to be heinous crimes. You can't redress a crime by committing another. Just as you can't deny the Holocaust, you can't trivialize the suffering of the Palestinians.
@adi87tya Definition of ethnic cleansing: "rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group."
Definition of genocide: "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group"
@TomFynn So what are you saying? Are we to ignore the Palestinian situation because there's no genocide there, but ethnic cleansing? Is that how your sense of morality works? It's all about degrees?
@adi87tya First you claimed "offense", then "ethnic ceasing". Both are not at all comparable withe the systematic killing of six million people. *That* is perspective.
@TomFynn My point throughout has been that freedom of speech is freedom of speech. You can't have double standards on it.You must condemn someone for denying the truth of the Holocaust, but you have no right to put them in prison. Similarly, I don't think the Iranian government has any right to threaten Rushdie either. Denying the holocaust may be more heinous, but the degree of something/whether it is true or not is not the argument here. It's what a government can or can't do.
@adi87tya In Germany denying the holocaust carries up to five years sentence. Which is just as well. Lying is *not* covered by free speech.
And what's the issue here was that *you* compared an outright liar (Zundel) with a writer of fantasy tales (Rushdi) about whose book someone took "offense".
@TomFynn That's my point, you shouldn't put people in prison just for denying the holocaust. Free speech means you should be free to spout untruths as well -- people in society will then condemn you and call you a liar, and that's perfectly fine. I wasn't comparing Rushdie and Zundel -- I'm just saying that in a Western liberal society we should be ready to defend the right to free speech of both these individuals.
@adi87tya No. Zundel deserved to be put in jail because he told outright, demonstrable lies. Lies about a terrible, real event that to lie about is a direct insult to the survivors and the relatives of those millions that died in it.
Rushdie has the right to write his books under the right of free speech, since he never claimed them to be anything but fantasy, pure imagination. If people find that offensive, especially to their imagined friend, so fucking what?
You'd think the proper response to Rushdie is another literary work undermining his. That would be the civilized thing to do, not rally the believers to kill him.
What an opportunity it was for Islam to assert itself gently into the hearts of the rest of the world, yet squandered it. Either their leaders are not too bright, or the ideology is intended by the divine for the less intelligent class of our humankind. But what am I saying, Islam is political first, religion last.
@sfyr Insult? Yes, I grant you that. But ones "faith" is not diminished by the opinions of others, surely. Certainly taking the offense to the extreme by taking the individual's life, might deny him the opportunity of coming to appreciate your superior point of view as it were, in some future time.
The effort of formulating convincing arguments to win over that individual must account for much more in the eyes of the divine. Do you agree?
@creationcenterTV No, it's all Hadith (alleged sayings of the prophet) which Muslims unequivocably believe in as mandate but non-Muslims don't know about it. This is why most Muslims are called 'Sunni', they follow the 'Sunna' or (alleged hearsay about the prophet). The Quran actually says this about apostatcy:Those who believe, then disbelieve and then believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief, GOD will never pardon them, nor will He guide them unto a way.
@creationcenterTV In regards to the context, which is temporary, the answer is NO. The 'kuffar' and 'mushrikeen' are a specific group who oppressed Muslims, kicked them out of Makkah and stole their houses. Many Muslims interpret verses according to Sunna, there lies the error. Read about the history of Islam, how the message emerged and who was the opposition. regards.
@creationcenterTV The quran unfortunately promotes sectarianism, an utterly, utterly horrendous thing. The concept is rooted in materialism by dint of identifying with material labels rather than a transcendental concept of the self. I'm flabbergasted as to how any intelligent person can submit to it.
@loremdolorfu 'THE IDEOLOGY, INTENDED BY THE DIVINE FOR THE LESS INTELLIGENT CLASS OF HUMANKIND'.. NO TRUER WORDS AVE BEEN ARTICULATED SO SIMPLY TO APTLY DECRIBE THE TRUTH ABOUT ABOUT WAT REALLY ISLAM IS . KUDOS.
When I die I'm going to be eaten by bacteria which will release nutrients into the environment, nutrients that a mango tree will use to grow mango and nourish the people who are still alive. F*ck you, F*ck your religion, and F*ck your God.
We are all sick and tired of you. The world would be a better place if Muhammad never existed. You lots are nothing but a bunch of vile scum; you are nothing but a burden on the rest of us. I wish you and your fake gods would just disappear from human consciousness.
what the hell was all that bullshit about converting to islam. he was scared for his life he's a pussy! why is it that freedom of speech and expression is only used when it comes to bashing islam in what ever way someone wants
Here is how the Quran once read with the "Satanic Verses" which spoke of Allah have 3 Pagan Gods as Daughters :
Quran 53.19 - "Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (Goddess), Manat ?"
Quran 53.21- "These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries), whose intercession is to be hoped for."
Muhammad later Retracted this enormous error of mentioning Pagan Gods in Quran and denied his culpability in the matter by conveniently accusing Satan of having put the offending words in his mouth.
Using the old testament as either an excuse for, or deflection off of what is done in the name of islam for allah and ol' moe, is a usual ploy but it doesn't work. Our laws take perps that are pedophiles, murderers, and treats them as such. In islam, pedophilia is called 'marriage', murder of non-moslems is ok because the koran dehumanizes them and then says it is ok to torture and/or kill them. So anyone who wants to say to stop criticizing islam - no. I will not obey sharia.
@zbvvc Thats always supposing that Allah is God... but what if he is Satan, Allah seems to have more in common with Satan... being a lover of war, violence and all that good stuff!
@dowhatthouwiltful so your saying satan is bigger then god. how come muslims practice their religion more then any other religions and what do you mean god loves war and vilonce how come islam is growing in jail where murderes or gangbangers becomes peacefull it seems like you writing down things from someone you heard talking crap. but one thing you have to understand that we are humans and humans are not perfect nothing is supposed to be perfect life is a test thats what islam teaches.
@zbvvc Nah Islam teaches you to "kill em all where you find them" does it not? Isn't Jihad an excuse for having a good old blood bath? Not that I'm against blood baths :-D
@Afghan1Pride - lovely peaceful religion you hypocritical and ignorant arse.
since you like to repress another with your freedom of speech, than i will throw some back at you, i would gladly like to offend and fuck your moham-mad of your lies and hateful religion.
I am glad to live in a country where the 'official' religion is not even practised by the majority and is only a minor irritation, It sounds like Islamic countries are uncomfortable places to live for people who do not believe in God.
And what do we get from moslems who are the ones behind violence and murder everywhere? More whining and wailing from them that they are the victims. waaaaa waaaaa waaaaa - they want to continue their murders without having to others to know that it is their shitran and ol' moe behind the violence! The koran is nothing but a book of hate and dehumanizing non-moslems.
@staffsgt7 Why don't you rather criticize Christianity which is all around you as an American citizen? There's murder, rape and racism all over the old testament, and is yet accepted all over the world.
@omicida4991 Christianity is openly criticized and examined in America and the rest of the world without having to worry about receiving death threats for doing so. Why is Islam so scared of honest examination and criticism? If it is truly gods revelation to men it should be able take criticism without resorting to death threats to shut peoples questioning up. Any belief that can't stand up to scrutiny isn't worth believing.
Even the Indians are telling us the moslems are nothing but overreactive barbarians. islam is an ideology and MUST be criticized and unfortunately, it is ridiculous so should be ridiculed.
I've even more respect for Rusdhie now after watching this - and that's quite a claim given that he's been one of my favourite authors and political commentators for a number of years. Astonishing, though not in the least bit surprising, to hear seemingly educated people defend book burning. The barbarians couldn't look any more pathetic even if they tried.
@XforeverlongingX I don't agree with the Muslim reaction/banning the book, but some things are offensive. Isn't Holocaust denial, for example, illegal in so many European countries? I think if we are to protect free speech we shouldn't have any double standards about it.
@adi87tya Forget about banning the book. They put a bounty on his head to kill him! YES it is a double standard for"Holocaust denial" to be illegal. It's a scandal what happened to David Irving!
@XforeverlongingX the danish cartoon thing was a joke. i remember this...i was 13 and i can never forget it. salman was given level 1 protection...that's like the secret service putting you in a safe house.
@thescorpionking2020 i will write a novel and will use name of your mother, and will tell the world how i stimulate your mom, how i put my penis in her mouth and ejaculated into her throat, how a expand her ass hole giving her toys. As a Champion of freedom of speaking and i hope you would called me "Hero" . Btw i pity on you , do you know exactly from which sperm of which dick you came into existence ? in fact this all abt your culture ans society. "freedom of spreading sperms"
Book of Leviticus chapter 24 : verse 16] " And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord ; he shall surely be put to death" - no mercy shall be shown him, no reprieve or pardon granted him , there is no atonement for it, by repentance, or chastisements, or the day of atonement: so blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is not forgiven, neither in this world nor in that which is to come - [Matthew chapter 12: verse 31] " [and] all the congregation shall certainly stone him" - till he dies
I am confused because I thought that Muslims were not supposed to put Muhammad on a pedestal like that, yet they make him seem more important than Allah! Isn't that blasphemous? Thanks so much for posting the vid cause it was very interesting!
Salam Rushdie is an interlectual who have fought for freedom of speech and free thinking. Those who try to become part of any religion before becomming humans turn into animals like Khamaini who does not have mental ability to distinguish between right and wrong. Today there are so many rushdies in muslims. Victory to Salman Rushdie.
also there is one and only truth that we all have to say is true and that is that we are all human beings,there is nothing else more truthful then that,so why the fuck cant we all just get along no matter what our opinions and differences,oh and the only thing we should be concerning ourselves with is how we treat each other and our planet and the beautiful creatures of this world,everything else is just crap we put in our way to stop us from loving and understanding each other,THE END
also if there is a god i dont think he would be to happy with the things we have done and continue to do to one another in his name,also i point out religion is a man made thing and maybe it was created just so we could have another excuse to kill each other,cause looking at history and the present this is all we have ever done,you dont believe in my religion then im gonna kill you(yeah excuses)human beings are so hateful and we will find any reason to continue the hate,religion,money,color,etc.
Exist some Tidiness in World : exactly when I wished to hear about Salman Rushdi's book, I find this with friendly help of Ambekarite men.Thanksvery muhc.Last week , ago only 4 days i think : I must know this.
"There are laws in civilised society that are not written in statute books." So he wants freedom of expression and speech for himself but not for those who want to burn his book? I have no love for Islam or religion, but this is the height of illogic.
@nyscholartist brilliant, finally, someone that’s able to inject some logical and rational observations into this discussion, Salman clearly did it out of political needs, he is intensely egotistical and arrogant ……… and clearly a menace
@beg4samson Agreed, yes, he is. I do not support the fatwa on him. Nor do I think his or anyone else's books should be banned. But that is entirely consistent with the idea that the reaction to the book-burning was irrational and bigoted.
@BlackPawedLion It does not. It represents its exercise. Writing a nasty book is as much the product of one's right to free speech as burning it. You can't praise one and bitch about the other unless you believe only certain people in society enjoy the right to free speech.
Destorying someone elses speech so symbolically represents the supression of speech: The destruction of The Satanic Verses, NOT "bitching" about it.
To suggest that symbolic destruction of a book in such a way represents mere critisism is a delusion. Critisism is critisism; the attempted censorship of an individual and the use of such actions to represent that is not.
@BlackPawedLion No. First of all, it's "criticism," not "critisism." Secondly, nowhere is it written that criticism can only take one form. Burning a book is in and of itself a form of criticism. It is hateful, vacuous, and provocative; it is certainly not persuasive or effective criticism. But it is a form of criticism nonetheless. And it is protected by free speech, whether you like it or not. They are free to call for censorship, too, but the state is not obliged to listen to them.
@BlackPawedLion Also, one could say something similar about Rushdie's book. It is hateful, vacuous, and provocative. It is badly written. It is not an effective criticism of Islam or the Prophet because it relies on falsehoods to construct a fictitious narrative. So if the book-burning should be considered a violation of free speech on those particular grounds, so too should the publication of Rushdie's book.
@BlackPawedLion In the end, either you call for free speech for all or free speech for none. Picking and choosing what you subjectively regard as legitimate "criticism" does away with the concept of free speech altogether. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
@BlackPawedLion Calling for someone's death might fall afoul of laws against public incitement to violence. We weren't discussing that. We were discussing the burning of the book. "The attempted censorship of an individual," again, can take many forms, the overwhelming majority of which are or should be protected by free speech. It might well be vile and filthy, but that's not relevant to the issue of free speech.
@BlackPawedLion ppl can say whatever they want about the bible and jesus,its called ppls right to say whatever they want(freedom of speece if you like)but in todays world anyone with a brain in their head say thats fine you are entitled to your opinion,this is why i no longer beleive in religion,cause they all bitch and bicker and fight each other,personnally me i think if there is a god he would be just as happy if we prayed to him while sitting on the shitta .religion seems to me to breed hate
It's not clear why this business of book-burning is such a big deal. The lady at 26:00 says that it was a "horrific symbolic event" because it reminded her of the Nazis. The Nazis did far worse than burn books, lady. And there's no logical or necessary connection between burning books and burning people. Clearly, it's not just the religious nutters here who are getting emotional.
while there is no causal connection between book burning and the gassing of prisioners in Nazi Germany, there is a clear connection which shows that in certain social strata, among the European intelligensia for example, private libraries were often burned prior to the incarceration of the libraries owner. My father is a case in point. He was arrested and survived life in 2 concentration camps-the last being the infamous Dachau.He was a medical doctor & a Polish Roman Catholic
This is the problem with religion, it turns rational people insane! Hopefully Islam will grow out of this idiotic idea of killing in the name of religion just like Christianity grew out of it many years ago. Hopeful Islam will be able to brought into modern thinking and hopefully be reasoned out of power, just like Christianity!
Salman Rushdies problem is he's introduced himself to islam through second hand sources, instead of learning what muslims understand to be islam through orthodox islamic universities, he's done it via bogus unsupported false documents which he's used to base a critical view ............ he is totally incompetent and from what ive learnt today dumb
@beg4samson Actually he was born to muslim parents in pakistan, and was a very faithful muslim until he was about 18. Didn't you watch the movie? He did many many years of research before writing that novel and has won numerous prestigious writing awards... he is the best of the best, what have you done to make you an authority over the matter.
@brebsss excuse me, his sister clearly stated he had no idea regarding islamic practices, "he used to go to the mosque and when he asked how do i pray they told him just go up and down like everyone else" , he only won prestigious writing awards based on political circumstances, read some of his critics reviews, i dont claim to be an authority on anything, you implied it, im just simply reflecting on my thoughts......... although i personally think he is a sordid and vile individual
@beg4samson Maybe because talking to yourself is a sign of serious mental issues? Who can blame him for not wanting to do it. He won the awards BEFORE he wrote satanic verses fool. He was a literal genius... Hes won the booker prize numberous times over the decades for different works.
Still yet to state WHY he is vile?
We have copious traditions relating Muhammad’s marriage proposal when Aisha was six or seven years old, as well as his consummation of that marriage when she was nine. pedo.
@brebsss see their you go, you’ve just confirmed your ignorance, you’ve just said what I expected you to, so predictable, what you will do now is continue to use false Zionist propaganda as factual evidence to support your argument as Salman did before you, you can talk trash all day but your not being realistic in your argument, learn islam through orthodox muslim teachings and not via Zionist tunnel vision misinformation, your really distorting reality and im not sure if its intentional ?????
And people deny this has anything to do with religion....
MrEstarmes 1 day ago
The more I learn about Islam, the more confused I am. My Muslim friends are the most peaceful people I've ever had the privilege of knowing. It's clear that peace is a tenet of their faith. Then I hear stories like this & I'm puzzled as to how the Koran & Islam's teachings can foster such different attitudes/views While I can clearly see why Muslims would be so offended/outraged, the violent response seems to contradict what I've learned. And what happened to Cat Stevens & The peace train!!
dwayners13 3 days ago
Rushman salty
TensionManORG 4 days ago
"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby" - Ayatollah Khomeni.
Credibility destroyed I'd say.
Daveyboyroy 5 days ago
The first two examples of what people did in response to Salman Rushdi's earlier books and characterisations just highlights the difference between civilised cultures and Islam. Two other people didn't like what was written so one banned the book and the other sued. The threat to kill shows a backward, uncivilised, tribal and animalistic mindset that belongs in the 7th century.
Daveyboyroy 5 days ago
What a brave man. We need more people like him, Robert Spencer, Aayan Ali, Nonie Darwish, Brigitte Gabriel and others to help aid the decline of Islam.
Daveyboyroy 5 days ago
Rushdie reduced himself to let everyone in the world know what a little weasel of a man he really was.
hamzah938 1 week ago
@hamzah938 Better to be a weasel than a man who had sex with a child and murdered his critics.
Daveyboyroy 5 days ago
Don't mess with Texas, er Iran.
hamzah938 1 week ago
Where did they get the books to burn them? The book had just been released! If you want to buy a book for $26.95 and choose to burn it soon afterwards, you be a 'fool'- Rushdie gets a financial reward.
hamzah938 1 week ago
Who in their ri
baan58adam 2 weeks ago
Khomeini's first book was Kashf al-Asrar, aka Secrets Unveiled, was published in 1942 Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. Ayatollah Khomeini
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
Ayatollah Khomeini If they have intercourse with a cow and sheep and camel their [the animals] urine and dung becomes unclean and drinking their milk will also be unlawful and they [the animals] must be killed and burned without delay, and the person who had intercourse with them must pay money to the owner. Further, if he had intercourse with any beast its milk becomes unlawful. Fatwa #2632.
ritchloui 2 weeks ago
there was tow DONKYS in iran one of them there and the other is a ser in uk
nickyrostem1 2 weeks ago
People are pretty stupid.
swiftyJ88 2 weeks ago
And this is going endear me to muslims, who think more irrationally than a crazy psychopath when a stupid Ayatollah gives them an order as if he was the last word of god!?
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harrysafraz 3 weeks ago
As a christian I love muslims...i love everyone. This does not mean though that I have the right to go around insulting people, but it does mean that I tell the truth that Jesus is the only way to heaven, which means all who trust in Jesus to take them to heaven are going there, whereas those who do not believe that Jesus is the only way, will not get to heaven.
Only those people who are written in the book of life are getting into heaven...is your name written in the book of life dear friend?
empirestatebuilding1 3 weeks ago
Narcistics seldom take criticism. Islam in this case. Truth is, that as true Christians follow Jesus's teaching so true muslims follow Muhammed. He was somewhat of a violent person. like against Jews in Khaybar. Mere brutality. Thus claims of Islam being for peace is just taqqiya - a lie.
Ironically islam keeps fulfilling the endtime prophecies of the Bible to a letter.
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harrysafraz 3 weeks ago
MAY THIS NOVEL"SATANIC VERSES" TO BE PRESENTED TO IDIOT ZAKIR NAIK... SO THAT HE COULD LEARN SOME FACTS OUT OF THIS BOOK...
priyamjeetable 1 month ago 2
@priyamjeetable
learning facts from fiction writers is like learning to have sex from someone who has never seen a woman.
DraughtOfPeace 2 weeks ago
@DraughtOfPeace I have told "FACTS"... Fiction writings might have it's own style of perceiving but it Indicates towards some FACTS... Which is real...
So it's like THE KAMASUTRA(Indian sex novel)...lollll
priyamjeetable 2 weeks ago
@priyamjeetable
my comment went so over your head, it got hijacked and flown into a major landmark... sigh. Never mind.
DraughtOfPeace 2 weeks ago
@DraughtOfPeace oye Mr. peace.. think my previous comment once again and then talk... I think my comment goes over your Silly Brain..
priyamjeetable 2 weeks ago
(quote) Almansor, the German writer Heinrich Heine "Where they burn books, so too will they in the end burn human beings." He was referring to the burning of the Qur'an during the Spanish inquisition. People should never think it is a benign act, it symbolizes the literal desire to obliterate the very ideas that form a human being and place imaginary fetters. It is all so Orwellian or more aptly Fahrenheit 451.
vgrasomni 1 month ago 4
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Al-Quran is only for the thinking people, not for the short-minded people.
1. Search
2. Learn
3. Judge
But most of the short-minded people directly jump to step 3.
so they're only talking without knowledge and facts to satisfy their hatred.
Please learn Islam from the real Muslims
WorldWiedNews 1 month ago
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Salman Rushdie is a vain,ego maniac.He wouldn't be missed...
lagutoboy82 1 month ago
Superstar2011 why don't you stand up to the bulls it ayatollahs or crooked leaders in the middle east, you domrealise thye have killed many housands while rushdie killed none. notice the ayatollahs always send someone else son to be a suicide bomber never their own. your just a coward.
mPky1 1 month ago 4
@tomfynn you might want to check the bible, where the jews say and boast they have the right to kill, enslave, murder, and steal from their neighbors. notice they never kill poor pagans, thus we can ony conclude they are just bandits and its njo about god.
mPky1 1 month ago
this guy is a cunt, he should be beheaded. fact is freedom of speech doesnt exist. press tv has been taken of the air about their views wheres freedom of speech here? ur being told a lie by the zionist culprits when will people wake up and realise the world is run by the devil.
kayzed786 1 month ago
Fucking dumb muslims...
BTW fuck religion, stupid fairy tale
MrBuffaloGrill 1 month ago 3
Bottom Line: Religions are fucking Dumb! PERIOD.
lanuevagranada 1 month ago 3
Despite the complexities of this whole affair i still find myself at the end of this documentary saying 'all this over a book that 1 man out of over 6 billion people in this world decided to write'.
My take is that he was wrong to profess such views but that's his right and nobody should take his life just because they have a view that is different to his.
KingRooney89 1 month ago 2
I would love to meet Sir Salman Rushdie someday. Hope he comes back to Bombay one day.
anirvanroy84 1 month ago
@anirvanroy84 why what r u goin to do to him
TheKingyusuf250x 1 month ago
@TheKingyusuf250x Lol.. get an autograph from him on my copy of the Satanic Verses.. and if he has time for an ordinary fan like myself, then maybe a hear a few anecdotes over some tea.
anirvanroy84 1 month ago 2
Islam is a cult..fcuking shit..
2135897 1 month ago
@2135897 shut the fuck up.go fucking sell your mum n have sex with your sister.
SuperStart2011 1 month ago
another pointless video LOL
AFGHAN21100 1 month ago in playlist satanic verses
VERY INTERESTING
cancerianer 1 month ago
to see the Khomeini fatwa, go to 0:35:35 & for those who also get upset seeing mockery of Jesus, can give a me thumbs up!
AliAbraham51 1 month ago
There's serious hypocrisy in all of this. Why does Salman Rushdie get police protection whereas Ernst Zundel got put in jail? What Zundel wrote was evil and controversial, yes, but free speech applies to everyone. The Satanic Verses was as offensive to Muslims as Zundel's writings were offensive to Jews.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya Asshole. Zundel denied the fact of the holocaust. Rushdie got a price on his head because someone felt he insulted his invisible friend.
Do not dare to compare these two.
TomFynn 1 month ago
@TomFynn To a Palestinian who doesn't have the basic right of self-determination afforded to him because of Israel's occupation, his situation is as bad as the Holocaust. Perspective is everything. I'm not justifying what Zundel wrote. At the end of the day however, that's not the argument. It's what people take offense to. And to the Muslims it's as offensive as anything Zundel said or wrote is to the Jews.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya Taking offence is not an argument, was not an argument and will never be an argument. What matters is what is true. And the truth is this: whatever happens to the Palestinians is not the same as the systematic extermination of six million people. Period.
TomFynn 1 month ago
@TomFynn That may well be. But freedom of speech doesn't exist so that I may say A but not say B. Freedom of speech exists so that people can say controversial things -- and if you don't agree with them you don't listen to them (or you condemn them) -- but you don't arrest people.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@TomFynn As far as the Palestinian situation is concerned, there has been ethnic cleansing there too; there has been killing and oppression there too. It may not be six million Jews, but whether it's six million Jews or thousands of Palestinians I hold both to be heinous crimes. You can't redress a crime by committing another. Just as you can't deny the Holocaust, you can't trivialize the suffering of the Palestinians.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya Definition of ethnic cleansing: "rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group."
Definition of genocide: "the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group"
You see the difference.
TomFynn 1 month ago
@TomFynn So what are you saying? Are we to ignore the Palestinian situation because there's no genocide there, but ethnic cleansing? Is that how your sense of morality works? It's all about degrees?
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya I'm saying you should not compare things that are not comparable.
TomFynn 1 month ago
@TomFynn And I'm saying it's important to get some perspective before you wilfully condemn something.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya First you claimed "offense", then "ethnic ceasing". Both are not at all comparable withe the systematic killing of six million people. *That* is perspective.
TomFynn 1 month ago
@TomFynn My point throughout has been that freedom of speech is freedom of speech. You can't have double standards on it.You must condemn someone for denying the truth of the Holocaust, but you have no right to put them in prison. Similarly, I don't think the Iranian government has any right to threaten Rushdie either. Denying the holocaust may be more heinous, but the degree of something/whether it is true or not is not the argument here. It's what a government can or can't do.
adi87tya 1 month ago
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@adi87tya How is denying the holocaust more heinous than threatening someone with death?
mikelheron20 1 month ago
@adi87tya In Germany denying the holocaust carries up to five years sentence. Which is just as well. Lying is *not* covered by free speech.
And what's the issue here was that *you* compared an outright liar (Zundel) with a writer of fantasy tales (Rushdi) about whose book someone took "offense".
TomFynn 1 month ago
@TomFynn That's my point, you shouldn't put people in prison just for denying the holocaust. Free speech means you should be free to spout untruths as well -- people in society will then condemn you and call you a liar, and that's perfectly fine. I wasn't comparing Rushdie and Zundel -- I'm just saying that in a Western liberal society we should be ready to defend the right to free speech of both these individuals.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya No. Zundel deserved to be put in jail because he told outright, demonstrable lies. Lies about a terrible, real event that to lie about is a direct insult to the survivors and the relatives of those millions that died in it.
Rushdie has the right to write his books under the right of free speech, since he never claimed them to be anything but fantasy, pure imagination. If people find that offensive, especially to their imagined friend, so fucking what?
TomFynn 1 month ago
God forgive us
youstinkypoonumber2 1 month ago
You'd think the proper response to Rushdie is another literary work undermining his. That would be the civilized thing to do, not rally the believers to kill him.
What an opportunity it was for Islam to assert itself gently into the hearts of the rest of the world, yet squandered it. Either their leaders are not too bright, or the ideology is intended by the divine for the less intelligent class of our humankind. But what am I saying, Islam is political first, religion last.
loremdolorfu 1 month ago 12
@loremdolorfu
"You'd think the proper response to Rushdie is another literary work.."!!
"another"!!..where is the first one??.. you call that 'literary work'??
He wasn't "criticising" Islam.. he was insulting muslims..
"..not rally the believers to kill him.."!!
That was done by one man.. after a WHOLE year.. ie political reasons..
Unfortunately.. that made him even more famous..
sfyr 1 month ago
@sfyr Insult? Yes, I grant you that. But ones "faith" is not diminished by the opinions of others, surely. Certainly taking the offense to the extreme by taking the individual's life, might deny him the opportunity of coming to appreciate your superior point of view as it were, in some future time.
The effort of formulating convincing arguments to win over that individual must account for much more in the eyes of the divine. Do you agree?
loremdolorfu 3 weeks ago
@loremdolorfu
100%..
Like I said.. the 'fatwa' against him was made for political reasons..
It was stupid.. made him more famous..
Muslims dont insult other religions.. it's only fair to expect the same in response..
sfyr 3 weeks ago
@loremdolorfu
I think the problem is that Islam assumes the veracity of the Koran and mingles it with politics. That is why the World Trade Center was destroyed.
creationcenterTV 4 weeks ago
@creationcenterTV No, it's all Hadith (alleged sayings of the prophet) which Muslims unequivocably believe in as mandate but non-Muslims don't know about it. This is why most Muslims are called 'Sunni', they follow the 'Sunna' or (alleged hearsay about the prophet). The Quran actually says this about apostatcy:Those who believe, then disbelieve and then believe, then disbelieve, and then increase in disbelief, GOD will never pardon them, nor will He guide them unto a way.
NoHadithForMe 4 weeks ago
@NoHadithForMe
Doesn't the Koran command the death of all infidels?
creationcenterTV 4 weeks ago
@creationcenterTV In regards to the context, which is temporary, the answer is NO. The 'kuffar' and 'mushrikeen' are a specific group who oppressed Muslims, kicked them out of Makkah and stole their houses. Many Muslims interpret verses according to Sunna, there lies the error. Read about the history of Islam, how the message emerged and who was the opposition. regards.
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loremdolorfu 3 weeks ago
@creationcenterTV The quran unfortunately promotes sectarianism, an utterly, utterly horrendous thing. The concept is rooted in materialism by dint of identifying with material labels rather than a transcendental concept of the self. I'm flabbergasted as to how any intelligent person can submit to it.
loremdolorfu 3 weeks ago
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loremdolorfu 3 weeks ago
@loremdolorfu 'THE IDEOLOGY, INTENDED BY THE DIVINE FOR THE LESS INTELLIGENT CLASS OF HUMANKIND'.. NO TRUER WORDS AVE BEEN ARTICULATED SO SIMPLY TO APTLY DECRIBE THE TRUTH ABOUT ABOUT WAT REALLY ISLAM IS . KUDOS.
REXXBAILEY 4 weeks ago
Fuck Rushdie he is the devil. Mother fucker he should kill himself. Dirty bustard.
SuperStart2011 1 month ago
@SuperStart2011
I think the world would be a better place if you died.
Mrmoc7 1 month ago
@Mrmoc7 why dont you say the world better without you.you child killer.ppl like you needs to get educate and show some respect for others.
SuperStart2011 1 month ago
@Mrmoc7 if i die i wont die like u big eaters.ill proud to die for my ppl n my religion what about you dick head?
SuperStart2011 1 month ago
@SuperStart2011
When I die I'm going to be eaten by bacteria which will release nutrients into the environment, nutrients that a mango tree will use to grow mango and nourish the people who are still alive. F*ck you, F*ck your religion, and F*ck your God.
Mrmoc7 1 month ago
@Mrmoc7
We are all sick and tired of you. The world would be a better place if Muhammad never existed. You lots are nothing but a bunch of vile scum; you are nothing but a burden on the rest of us. I wish you and your fake gods would just disappear from human consciousness.
Mrmoc7 1 month ago
@Mrmoc7 here, here
vgrasomni 1 month ago
@SuperStart2011 Well arnt you just a disgusting human being
DarkPrince0fWGTN 1 month ago
@DarkPrince0fWGTN am not like you.when you support disease like him.then u are disgusting not me.
SuperStart2011 1 month ago
ohhhh poor muslims...do u want your mother you cry baby fucking children grow a backbone
akadaka69 2 months ago
BTW! If the book would not catch fire b/c of the wind, then perhaps G-d didn't want it to burn? HMMM?
fishzima 2 months ago
Burning books....typical religious people!
fishzima 2 months ago
All this because of a one damn book! Rushdie is a Lord Byron of our times.
324wilson 2 months ago
what the hell was all that bullshit about converting to islam. he was scared for his life he's a pussy! why is it that freedom of speech and expression is only used when it comes to bashing islam in what ever way someone wants
101alir 2 months ago
@101alir he is a coward. He wrote a satanic book and was knighted for it? Typical.
Aooza bila he mina Shaytan a rajeem Bismila he Raman ir Raheem.
NWONoWorldOrderNWO 2 months ago
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Here is how the Quran once read with the "Satanic Verses" which spoke of Allah have 3 Pagan Gods as Daughters :
Quran 53.19 - "Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (Goddess), Manat ?"
Quran 53.21- "These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries), whose intercession is to be hoped for."
Muhammad later Retracted this enormous error of mentioning Pagan Gods in Quran and denied his culpability in the matter by conveniently accusing Satan of having put the offending words in his mouth.
forgottenmemories63 2 months ago
read the quran for yourself!
zbvvc 2 months ago
The guy with the glasses is such a dick
neilandruthswedding 2 months ago 2
book burning eh? makes sense! :-/
neilandruthswedding 2 months ago
Using the old testament as either an excuse for, or deflection off of what is done in the name of islam for allah and ol' moe, is a usual ploy but it doesn't work. Our laws take perps that are pedophiles, murderers, and treats them as such. In islam, pedophilia is called 'marriage', murder of non-moslems is ok because the koran dehumanizes them and then says it is ok to torture and/or kill them. So anyone who wants to say to stop criticizing islam - no. I will not obey sharia.
staffsgt7 2 months ago
Kill him so god could punish him sooner.
Afghan1Pride 2 months ago
@Afghan1Pride u are an ape
akadaka69 2 months ago
I would gladly kill this Pig Rushdie.
Afghan1Pride 2 months ago
@Afghan1Pride And I'd gladly slit your throat, sir.
omicida4991 2 months ago
@omicida4991 of course you would you satanic bastard
Afghan1Pride 2 months ago
@Afghan1Pride if you dont belivie in god then how can you belivie in satan.
zbvvc 2 months ago
@zbvvc Thats always supposing that Allah is God... but what if he is Satan, Allah seems to have more in common with Satan... being a lover of war, violence and all that good stuff!
dowhatthouwiltful 2 months ago
@dowhatthouwiltful so your saying satan is bigger then god. how come muslims practice their religion more then any other religions and what do you mean god loves war and vilonce how come islam is growing in jail where murderes or gangbangers becomes peacefull it seems like you writing down things from someone you heard talking crap. but one thing you have to understand that we are humans and humans are not perfect nothing is supposed to be perfect life is a test thats what islam teaches.
zbvvc 2 months ago
@zbvvc Nah Islam teaches you to "kill em all where you find them" does it not? Isn't Jihad an excuse for having a good old blood bath? Not that I'm against blood baths :-D
dowhatthouwiltful 2 months ago
@Afghan1Pride Off course you would!! Barbaric animals tend to want to do that. No surprise there
Hermy1138 2 months ago
@Afghan1Pride - lovely peaceful religion you hypocritical and ignorant arse.
since you like to repress another with your freedom of speech, than i will throw some back at you, i would gladly like to offend and fuck your moham-mad of your lies and hateful religion.
peace, not ignorance.
scaryb69 1 month ago
I am glad to live in a country where the 'official' religion is not even practised by the majority and is only a minor irritation, It sounds like Islamic countries are uncomfortable places to live for people who do not believe in God.
CaptainJones32 2 months ago
Fuck
FreeeeS 2 months ago
we must always fight for the rights of man and freedom of speech. humanity before all religions!!!
Albereon 2 months ago 3
agreed! fully!!
wulfsragar 1 month ago
And what do we get from moslems who are the ones behind violence and murder everywhere? More whining and wailing from them that they are the victims. waaaaa waaaaa waaaaa - they want to continue their murders without having to others to know that it is their shitran and ol' moe behind the violence! The koran is nothing but a book of hate and dehumanizing non-moslems.
staffsgt7 2 months ago
@staffsgt7 Why don't you rather criticize Christianity which is all around you as an American citizen? There's murder, rape and racism all over the old testament, and is yet accepted all over the world.
omicida4991 2 months ago
@omicida4991 Christianity is openly criticized and examined in America and the rest of the world without having to worry about receiving death threats for doing so. Why is Islam so scared of honest examination and criticism? If it is truly gods revelation to men it should be able take criticism without resorting to death threats to shut peoples questioning up. Any belief that can't stand up to scrutiny isn't worth believing.
photonrayswaves 2 months ago 11
Even the Indians are telling us the moslems are nothing but overreactive barbarians. islam is an ideology and MUST be criticized and unfortunately, it is ridiculous so should be ridiculed.
staffsgt7 2 months ago
It's amazing the Muslims were surprised their street book burning didn't go so well.
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craigpsimpson 2 months ago
I've even more respect for Rusdhie now after watching this - and that's quite a claim given that he's been one of my favourite authors and political commentators for a number of years. Astonishing, though not in the least bit surprising, to hear seemingly educated people defend book burning. The barbarians couldn't look any more pathetic even if they tried.
TheSingh501 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
Dont let the old book lead your life. God gave you a brain use it.
MrShahidpakistani 2 months ago
@MrShahidpakistani what do you thonk Nietzche did? "God is dead" - Nietzche
FreeeeS 2 months ago
The best way of promoting a book or movie is prohibiting it.
guimuy 2 months ago
Thank you for this! Superb stuff - it's such a joy listening to Rushdie discussing The Satanic Verses.
TheSingh501 2 months ago
The muslims banning the book are crybabies. GET over it.
XforeverlongingX 3 months ago 7
@XforeverlongingX I don't agree with the Muslim reaction/banning the book, but some things are offensive. Isn't Holocaust denial, for example, illegal in so many European countries? I think if we are to protect free speech we shouldn't have any double standards about it.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya Forget about banning the book. They put a bounty on his head to kill him! YES it is a double standard for"Holocaust denial" to be illegal. It's a scandal what happened to David Irving!
XforeverlongingX 1 month ago
@XforeverlongingX the danish cartoon thing was a joke. i remember this...i was 13 and i can never forget it. salman was given level 1 protection...that's like the secret service putting you in a safe house.
AliAbraham51 1 month ago
freedom of speech yes
freedom of criticism yes
freedom of insulting no
PITBULLELDIABLO 3 months ago
@PITBULLELDIABLO How about freedom to issue death threats? :P
1990whoops 2 months ago
satanic verses is pure comedy
qmoney000 3 months ago
rushdie is a hero
thescorpionking2020 3 months ago 20
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AhsanKhania0558 1 month ago
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@thescorpionking2020 i will write a novel and will use name of your mother, and will tell the world how i stimulate your mom, how i put my penis in her mouth and ejaculated into her throat, how a expand her ass hole giving her toys. As a Champion of freedom of speaking and i hope you would called me "Hero" . Btw i pity on you , do you know exactly from which sperm of which dick you came into existence ? in fact this all abt your culture ans society. "freedom of spreading sperms"
AhsanKhania0558 1 month ago
Book of Leviticus chapter 24 : verse 16] " And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord ; he shall surely be put to death" - no mercy shall be shown him, no reprieve or pardon granted him , there is no atonement for it, by repentance, or chastisements, or the day of atonement: so blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is not forgiven, neither in this world nor in that which is to come - [Matthew chapter 12: verse 31] " [and] all the congregation shall certainly stone him" - till he dies
shahzadtheprince 3 months ago
rusdhie pawned islam so bad lol..........
thescorpionking2020 3 months ago 3
Oh I just want to say that I do not mean all Muslims put Muhammad on a pedestal, yet there seems to be some that make Muhammad divine or semi-divine.
Hotleather31 3 months ago
I am confused because I thought that Muslims were not supposed to put Muhammad on a pedestal like that, yet they make him seem more important than Allah! Isn't that blasphemous? Thanks so much for posting the vid cause it was very interesting!
Hotleather31 3 months ago
Salam Rushdie is an interlectual who have fought for freedom of speech and free thinking. Those who try to become part of any religion before becomming humans turn into animals like Khamaini who does not have mental ability to distinguish between right and wrong. Today there are so many rushdies in muslims. Victory to Salman Rushdie.
Nice1768 3 months ago 2
also there is one and only truth that we all have to say is true and that is that we are all human beings,there is nothing else more truthful then that,so why the fuck cant we all just get along no matter what our opinions and differences,oh and the only thing we should be concerning ourselves with is how we treat each other and our planet and the beautiful creatures of this world,everything else is just crap we put in our way to stop us from loving and understanding each other,THE END
humanbeingscanb2evil 3 months ago
also if there is a god i dont think he would be to happy with the things we have done and continue to do to one another in his name,also i point out religion is a man made thing and maybe it was created just so we could have another excuse to kill each other,cause looking at history and the present this is all we have ever done,you dont believe in my religion then im gonna kill you(yeah excuses)human beings are so hateful and we will find any reason to continue the hate,religion,money,color,etc.
humanbeingscanb2evil 3 months ago
satanic verses proof of mohammad being a charlatan and an opportunist
thescorpionking2020 3 months ago
Muslims: "Burning a book's no big beal - I'll kill you if you burn the Koran."
BlackPawedLion 3 months ago
Exist some Tidiness in World : exactly when I wished to hear about Salman Rushdi's book, I find this with friendly help of Ambekarite men.Thanksvery muhc.Last week , ago only 4 days i think : I must know this.
erikeholerzs42 3 months ago
"There are laws in civilised society that are not written in statute books." So he wants freedom of expression and speech for himself but not for those who want to burn his book? I have no love for Islam or religion, but this is the height of illogic.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@nyscholartist brilliant, finally, someone that’s able to inject some logical and rational observations into this discussion, Salman clearly did it out of political needs, he is intensely egotistical and arrogant ……… and clearly a menace
beg4samson 3 months ago
@beg4samson Agreed, yes, he is. I do not support the fatwa on him. Nor do I think his or anyone else's books should be banned. But that is entirely consistent with the idea that the reaction to the book-burning was irrational and bigoted.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@nyscholartist
It represents the suppression of freedom of speech however.
BlackPawedLion 3 months ago
@BlackPawedLion It does not. It represents its exercise. Writing a nasty book is as much the product of one's right to free speech as burning it. You can't praise one and bitch about the other unless you believe only certain people in society enjoy the right to free speech.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@nyscholartist
Destorying someone elses speech so symbolically represents the supression of speech: The destruction of The Satanic Verses, NOT "bitching" about it.
To suggest that symbolic destruction of a book in such a way represents mere critisism is a delusion. Critisism is critisism; the attempted censorship of an individual and the use of such actions to represent that is not.
BlackPawedLion 3 months ago
@BlackPawedLion No. First of all, it's "criticism," not "critisism." Secondly, nowhere is it written that criticism can only take one form. Burning a book is in and of itself a form of criticism. It is hateful, vacuous, and provocative; it is certainly not persuasive or effective criticism. But it is a form of criticism nonetheless. And it is protected by free speech, whether you like it or not. They are free to call for censorship, too, but the state is not obliged to listen to them.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@BlackPawedLion Also, one could say something similar about Rushdie's book. It is hateful, vacuous, and provocative. It is badly written. It is not an effective criticism of Islam or the Prophet because it relies on falsehoods to construct a fictitious narrative. So if the book-burning should be considered a violation of free speech on those particular grounds, so too should the publication of Rushdie's book.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@BlackPawedLion In the end, either you call for free speech for all or free speech for none. Picking and choosing what you subjectively regard as legitimate "criticism" does away with the concept of free speech altogether. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@nyscholartist
Even if I called for your death and threatened you?
Picking and choosing what you subjectively regard as legitimate free speech?
"The attempted censorship of an individual and the use of such actions [as book burning] to represent that is not critisism."
Either way, I never called for the banning of "burning"; but it makes it no less vile, and makes the people involved no less filthy in the head.
BlackPawedLion 3 months ago
@BlackPawedLion Calling for someone's death might fall afoul of laws against public incitement to violence. We weren't discussing that. We were discussing the burning of the book. "The attempted censorship of an individual," again, can take many forms, the overwhelming majority of which are or should be protected by free speech. It might well be vile and filthy, but that's not relevant to the issue of free speech.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@nyscholartist
Nono. You said "In the end, either you call for free speech for all or free speech for none."
Therefore we WERE discussing incitements of violence, and you technically brought it up.
BlackPawedLion 2 months ago
@BlackPawedLion ppl can say whatever they want about the bible and jesus,its called ppls right to say whatever they want(freedom of speece if you like)but in todays world anyone with a brain in their head say thats fine you are entitled to your opinion,this is why i no longer beleive in religion,cause they all bitch and bicker and fight each other,personnally me i think if there is a god he would be just as happy if we prayed to him while sitting on the shitta .religion seems to me to breed hate
humanbeingscanb2evil 3 months ago
It's not clear why this business of book-burning is such a big deal. The lady at 26:00 says that it was a "horrific symbolic event" because it reminded her of the Nazis. The Nazis did far worse than burn books, lady. And there's no logical or necessary connection between burning books and burning people. Clearly, it's not just the religious nutters here who are getting emotional.
nyscholartist 3 months ago
@nyscholartist
while there is no causal connection between book burning and the gassing of prisioners in Nazi Germany, there is a clear connection which shows that in certain social strata, among the European intelligensia for example, private libraries were often burned prior to the incarceration of the libraries owner. My father is a case in point. He was arrested and survived life in 2 concentration camps-the last being the infamous Dachau.He was a medical doctor & a Polish Roman Catholic
ChimaeraSiriusBlack 3 months ago
democracy = slavery
beg4samson 3 months ago
religion = loss of critical thinking
dpiston 3 months ago 26
@dpiston Islam = loss of life
rakeshmanmohan 2 months ago
This is the problem with religion, it turns rational people insane! Hopefully Islam will grow out of this idiotic idea of killing in the name of religion just like Christianity grew out of it many years ago. Hopeful Islam will be able to brought into modern thinking and hopefully be reasoned out of power, just like Christianity!
dpiston 3 months ago
@dpiston
Except only irrational people can be consumed by religion.
BlackPawedLion 3 months ago
Seventy thousand religious idiots protesting in London can't be wrong...
100cjkennedy 3 months ago
Salman Rushdies problem is he's introduced himself to islam through second hand sources, instead of learning what muslims understand to be islam through orthodox islamic universities, he's done it via bogus unsupported false documents which he's used to base a critical view ............ he is totally incompetent and from what ive learnt today dumb
beg4samson 3 months ago
@beg4samson Actually he was born to muslim parents in pakistan, and was a very faithful muslim until he was about 18. Didn't you watch the movie? He did many many years of research before writing that novel and has won numerous prestigious writing awards... he is the best of the best, what have you done to make you an authority over the matter.
brebsss 3 months ago
@brebsss excuse me, his sister clearly stated he had no idea regarding islamic practices, "he used to go to the mosque and when he asked how do i pray they told him just go up and down like everyone else" , he only won prestigious writing awards based on political circumstances, read some of his critics reviews, i dont claim to be an authority on anything, you implied it, im just simply reflecting on my thoughts......... although i personally think he is a sordid and vile individual
beg4samson 3 months ago
@beg4samson Maybe because talking to yourself is a sign of serious mental issues? Who can blame him for not wanting to do it. He won the awards BEFORE he wrote satanic verses fool. He was a literal genius... Hes won the booker prize numberous times over the decades for different works.
Still yet to state WHY he is vile?
We have copious traditions relating Muhammad’s marriage proposal when Aisha was six or seven years old, as well as his consummation of that marriage when she was nine. pedo.
brebsss 3 months ago
@brebsss see their you go, you’ve just confirmed your ignorance, you’ve just said what I expected you to, so predictable, what you will do now is continue to use false Zionist propaganda as factual evidence to support your argument as Salman did before you, you can talk trash all day but your not being realistic in your argument, learn islam through orthodox muslim teachings and not via Zionist tunnel vision misinformation, your really distorting reality and im not sure if its intentional ?????
beg4samson 3 months ago