Y'all are all acting silly when Moses got sent to Egypt God said call me I am why u think you have some secret revelation is beyond me everyone has different names in different languages it's no big deal really God is also alpha and omega you think he cares if you change it from first and last or beginning and end?all the same thing mean the same thing and on top of everything I wanna see a phd in ancient Hebrew and Greek. Nother example when the 120 got the holy spirit they were able to speak
@johnboyakaflamingo Where does it say to call HIM "I am"? Not in Ex.3:14, but He does say His Name is YHWH in the next verse (Ex.3:15) and He says that's His Name "forever" and His memorial to all generations. Please study more about His Name, for you are following the false ideas of men and ignoring the Word of YHWH unfortunately.
"God" is the name of a pagan deity, see Is. 65:11 in the original tongue. Try viewing "HaShem Revealed" on youtube. Best Wishes to you.
@natzrim The name of the Most High is in the language IBar (eye-bahr), which is Ancient Hebrew in its own language. In IBar, the letters are phonetically spelled as such:
Ah, Ba, Ga, Da, Ha, Wa, Za, Chaa (like in Arabic, but harder), Ta, Ya, Ka, La, Ma, Na, Sa, I (as in 'eye'), Pa, Taza, Qa, Ra, Sha, and Tha.
Taking the Most High's name all the way back to IBar (which is the first language, with many written variations), it phonetically translates to Ya-Ha-Wah ('h' is a silent Ha).
@Apprentice700 Your claims do not agree with what I have learned the ancient waw means: Add, Secure, Hook, and it has the sound of a "w, o", or a "u". Where do you get your information? How can you make such a claim without any proof? I'M OPEN TO HEAR YOUR CLAIMS BUT PROOF MUST BE GIVEN.
@natzrim What I think your talking about is Modern Hebrew. What I'm talking about is Ancient Hebrew. There is a BIG difference. Modern Hebrew is an alternate form of Yiddish. Ancient Hebrew is . . . ancient. I don't really know how to prove the existence of a language; it's just there. However, I can direct you to a page that says the same thing (even though there are a couple mess-ups and a missing letter, but it's okay):
@Apprentice700 Try ancient hebrew dot org. Also watch "messengerofthename", be sure to watch his video "HaShem Revealed".
If the hey (H) is silent in YHWH then how would you pronounce YHWDH? I've spoken with Nehemia Gordon of Israel and he says the most likely Katav Ivri pronunciation of the Name of YHWH is Yah-oo-ah. He's a graduate of Hebrew University and is a translator of ancient documents. What are your credentials?
@natzrim Your domain does not exist. And again, they are different languages. DIFFERENT languages. That's like saying a Korean translator doesn't agree with a Indonesian translator on what the word 'sarang' means (love in Korean, nest in Indonesian). Or saying a Spanish man pronounces Michael different from an Arabic man. You keep talking about Modern Hebrew, I'm talking about IBar (Ancient Hebrew)
P.S. I would assume YHWDH would refer to YaHaWaDah, which is Judah in English.
@Apprentice700 No I'm speaking of ANCIENT HEBREW. If you will send me your email address I'll send you links to show you. My email is yahudim@live.com.
YHWDH is Yahudah, every scholar I know agrees about this. Who is your scholar or scholarly source?
@natzrim The "Ancient Hebrew" in that site is nothing but Modern Hebrew with Proto-sinaitic characters. I know this because their phonetic spelling is the SAME. Try this:
@Apprentice700 The site you recommended is interesting but without any real worth since most of it is mere opinion. I read several articles but the "12 tribes of Israel" is the real telling of just how far man will go to lead men astray with their own teachings of which they have no authority to teach. Your words about the ancient Hebrew are misguided and without any real worth for they are without any historical or factual evidence. Don't trust men with empty words. Shalom.
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Yahuah is a false pronunciation it is JUPITER IOVA = Romans Deity!
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And for this cause YHWH shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thess: 2:8-12And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Messiah shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
You are correct, the name of the Father is YHWH, not Lord; you are also correct in that Lord is literally, another name/title for Baal, a.k.a. - Satan!
@MrsQuietBuck I don't think most of the false name users even read the Scripture references we give them most of the time. So, do they really want to know the truth? I don't think so. But I'm not going to stop praising YHWH and loving the poor ignorant souls enough to tell them about YHWH and His Ways.
@pretoshohmoofc You don't know Messiah. He is YHWH. 1Cor. 10:1-4 says He was the Rock in the exodus. Deut. 32:1-4 says the Rock is YHWH. Since no man has ever seen the Father of heard Him at anytime according to the Messiah and the Apostle John then all those that heard and seen YHWH saw the Messiah YHWH!
You don't know whom you worship, and you certainly are a "bastard", yeah that "foul" word found in the KJV that describes those who will not hear the Word of YHWH.
@pretoshohmoofc John 1:18 No one has ever seen Elohim.(1) The only brought-forth Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He did declare.(2) Footnotes: 1See 5:37, 6:46, 1 John 4:12. 2The pre-existent Son declared, and was the One who appeared to men.
Learn the Truth or be a bastard that can't be corrected by the Word of YHWH. Worship false deities and false names. You have that right, but I warned you and you wouldn't listen. To Satan you shall go by your choice.
@natzrim Also, you never answered my questions regarding the Jews reaction to everything BUT Christ using the divine name. Please answer each and every one of them please. I will not believe until you answer those questions.
@pretoshohmoofc If you idolize knowledge and the cunning of man you already are in bondage to Satan. Believe the lies that knowledge can save you if you want, but it will take you straight to the lake of fire..
@natzrim When he uses the name "Father" in the verse, what does that tell you. Even he used "Father" in Matt 6:9 "our FATHER ...hallowed be your name..."
If Jesus said YHWH or Our Lord, hallowed be your name,..."
You'd have a point. But the Jews tryed to stone him for introducing "Father" to the Jews.
"Also would you please prove the apostles wrote "Lord" and even "Jesus" if you can. Thanks."
We know that they did because the only manuscripts to ever show up ONLY CONTAINED 'Jesus' and 'Lord' in them. I too can argue that jesus real name was bob" but evil scribes removed it for jesus. But I don't have to because it isn't me who is making the claim that the Christian scriptures have been tampered with... YOU ARE. So the burden of poof is NOT on me, but on YOU to prove the other.
@pretoshohmoofc There is not one First Century Greek manuscript of the New Testament that has "Jesus" or "Lord" in it for the name of the Savior. You are the one claiming that "Jesus" and "Lord" were written by the apostles. They would never refer to the Messiah as "Jesus"or "Lord".
You've been deceived by translation. Names have meanings, but the meaning does not negate the proper name pronunciation. It didn't change the names of many demons, idols and even Satan, did it?
@natzrim Translation? You really don't know what you are talking about do you? I'm not talking about translations. I'm talking about the original koine greek manuscripts like P46. There is no divine name YHWH or the greek equivalent PIPI in the greek manuscripts. Anywhere, AT ALL.
@pretoshohmoofc According to you and all the lying bastards that claim the Name of the Father was not used in the First Century, the Savior lied when he said in John 17:6 "I have manifested thy name unto the men.." Just because you can not find the Name of YHWH in COPIES of letters that are far removed from the originals then you bastards ignore the Word of YHWH that proves you are liars. You annul the Word of YHWH, and without any hesitation you oppose His teachings. Bastards!
@natzrim According to you and all the lying bastards that claim the Name of the Father was not used in the First Century
In John 5:18 Christ called God his Father. This got a reaction from the Jews. Show me in the NT where the Jews reacted to Jesus using the divine name please.
@pretoshohmoofc@pretoshohmoofc You've no clue what happened in Acts 9:14 do you? You want to remain ignorant, therefor you are! Read the references I already sent you that they knew and used the Name you deny and despise. You are like your father the devil. To hell with you, you lying bastard. You love the lies (2Thess.chp. 2).
You and all lying bastards to stay off my channel, unless you can dialogue and reason properly within ALL the Word of YHWH. No Marcionist here!
@pretoshohmoofc On the same subject, in Acts 26:14-15 Shaul says he heard a voice in the Hebrew language speaking to him. And the mistranslation in verse says it was j sus speaking which is impossible because there is no letter "j" in the Hebrew language, or the greek or latin. So we know the Mashiyach was Hebrew, so what Name did He give Shaul?
@natzrim Besides all of your rantings, you've never answered any of my questions. Not one. All you did, was to demand and insist and call names. Well, Sir, name calling is the sign of a failed argument.
@natzrim in John 17:6 "I have manifested thy name unto the men.."
Re-read John 17:1 "Father, the hour has come..."
If he was saying, "Jehovah, the hour has come", then you'd have a point. but Jesus never called the Father Jehovah. Only when he was quoting scripture, and this was him saying "kurious". Not YHWH. There is no evidence for the other.
@natzrim In Luke 19:7 When Jesus entered the house of a sinner, the Jews freaked out. and yet, you are telling me that Jesus walked around saying "Jehovah this, and Jehovah that.." and not one single Jew even commented to him about this? NOT ONE?
@natzrim In Luke 11:38 when the Pharisees saw that Jesus never washed his hands before eatting, the blew up, but you are telling me that he was saying "YHWH this, and YHWH that in the first century and not one single Jew even questioned him about it?
@natzrim Even the Christian Jews like Peter questioned God in Acts 10:11-14 about eatting non clean food. And Peter being this good Jew in the first century didn't question Jesus using the divine name?
@natzrim Even other Christian Jews freaked out when gentiles came into the church in Acts 11:1. But not a single one, even asked or inquired about reinstating the divine name?
@natzrim The apostle Paul even started to teach that once Christians are saved, they can now call God "Father" in Rom 8:15
But you are trying to tell me that not one single Jew who lived in the first century along with Josephus even thought to bring up the idea that the divine name was now allowd again? Give me a break. You haven't worked out the details yet.
@pretoshohmoofc YOU CAN NOT PRODUCE ONE SINGLE FIRST CENTURY GREEK MANUSCRIPT THAT HAS "JESUS" OR "LORD" IN IT. NOT ONE. SO, PUT IT UP HERE OR KEEP OFF MY CHANNEL. IF YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT REPENT FROM SPREADING LIES THEN I'M SURE YOU BE ONE OF THOSE BASTARDS DESCRIBED IN HEBREWS 12:8. SO WE'LL JUST ADD YOU TO THE BASTARD LIST THAT DESPISES THE WORD OF YHWH. READ THE WHOLE MESSAGE FROM YHWH THEN TELL ME HE IS JESUS THE LORD, AND SEAL YOUR FATE IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
@natzrim You are arguing from silence. Josephus in his work The Antiquities of the Jews. chapter 12:4 is recorded as saying, "Where upon God delcared to him [Moes] his holy name, which had never been discovered to men before; concerning which it is not lawful for me to say anymore."
Josephus was a first century Jew who lived in the time when the apostles wrote the New Testament. So anyone who would have spoken the name, was stoned to death. There is no meation of the NT breaking this law.
By the beginning of the first century the divine name had been removed from the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) and according to Josephus the pronouniation of the divine name was unlawful. So even if some Versions of the Septuagint DID contain the divine name in it, the Jews ALWAYS read "adoney" over the divine name because they believed it to be too Holy to say. Again, there isn't a single NT manuscript that is in existance that contains the hebrew word YHWH. Not ONE!!!
@pretoshohmoofc If this is true then why does the codex Sinaiticus, the oldest complete Greek New Testament, NOT have the name of Iesous or Jesus in it? If you'll study seeking the Truth instead of only accepting what you already believe, then you might have a chance to become enlightened by the Truth of YHWH. Now prove "Jesus" was used by the apostles as you say or keep quite please.
@natzrim If I said to you that, " that watermellons are really blue on the inside until you cult them open, prove me wrong," Only a fool would chase this tail.
Seeing as we have only observed red watermellons, the the burden of proof is on the one who is making the claim that they are infact blue.
Or in other words,I don't have to prove A NEGATIVE. YOU DO. If they used the divine name in the NT you need to prove it. Give reason why you believe it.
@pretoshohmoofc John 17:6 "I have manifested thy name unto the men.." John 17:26 "And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it..." Acts9:14 "...all that call on thy name." Zep 3:9 “For then I shall turn unto the peoples a clean lip, so that they all call on the Name of יהוה,..."
You contradict the Word of YHWH, and the Savior, and you will not repent. You are an "anti-Christ"(1Jn.2:18) and a false teacher (Mt.5:19), and a lying bastard(Heb.12:8).
@natzrim No, YOU contradict the Word of YHWH, and the Savior, and you will not repent. You are an "anti-Christ"(1Jn.2:18) and a false teacher (Mt.5:19), and a lying (Heb.12:8).
@natzrim Zep 3:9 To “call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus” Act_22:16; Rom 10:13 is the very title of Christian worship; “all that called upon the Name” Jesus, the very title of Christians Act 9:14, Act 9:21; 1Co 1:2.
@pretoshohmoofc :This point you make using watermelons. Let's see. I have lived in other countries where the inside of some watermelons are Yellow! Therefore, just because you don't realize it exists doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I've lived abroad for many years. Other countries folk mock notions such as those you use here as arguments. Scripture explains clearly. Very clearly! Sir, I ask you seek our Father's face as He asks, much will become quite clear to you.
@pretoshohmoofc This post really shows your ignorance of the Word that Messiah taught, for He clearly taught the Name of YHWH as John chp. 17 shows. In Acts 9:14 they were destroyed for using the forbidden Name of YHWH, and you can't see that either. SO you think the high priest rent his robe b/c Messiah spoke His own Name or said "father"! How ignorant can a false namer be? Real ignorant; they don't know the Word, not even the so-called "New Testament". Stay off my channel!
The apostles wrote in the New Testament "Lord` kurios in Greek. They followed the tradition of the jews. If the apostles found nothing wrong with saying `Lord`then I don`t.
@pretoshohmoofc The oldest Greek manuscripts do not contain "kurios". Please explain, "they followed the traditions of the jews". Also would you please prove the apostles wrote "Lord" and even "Jesus" if you can. Thanks.
@natzrim Seeing as you have never seen a New Testament Greek text that did NOT contain the greek word kurios, your whole argument hinges on begging the question which is a fallacy. There is no such thing in existance as a New Testament manuscript with the divine name in it. 100% of them that have been found ONLY CONTAINS kurios in them. So your argument is easy to disregard.
@pretoshohmoofc Keep in mind kurios is not a proper name, like Baal. Now scholars say Baal means lord,and kurios means lord. Also lord means kurios, but this does not properly convey the Name of the Messiah, or the meaning of His Name. Show us the Name of the Messiah in the oldest Greek manuscript of the N.T. that has "kurios" or "Iesous" instead of the nomina sacra in place of His Name. Refute Origen and the Mishnah that says the sacred Name was used by the apostles, or hush.
what makes your translation right? king james that was written/translated 1600 years after yeshuah died? acts 4:24 YHWH is called soverign LORD. also show me the proof that its pronounced as you say instead of YAHWEH and JEHOVAH. you can't...
@bigmikey1979 NEVER is YHWH called soveriegn LORD in any of the earliest manuscripts of Hebrew or Greek that I can find. So where exactly is YHWH called "Sovereign LORD" as you proclaim?
@bigmikey1979 You don't read Hebrew do you? The Hebrew says Adonai YHWH, not Sovereign Lord. The Greek texts I have read that you referenced do not contain Sovereign either, and as far as kurios goes I don't accept this word as ever being used to apply to YHWH b/c this was never done in the earliest manuscripts of the Septuagint. Men deviated from the use of YHWH's Name around 150 A.D.. Can you prove the use of theos or kurios in the earliest manuscripts of Scripture? Why not?
@bigmikey1979: Quote from Concordance "The word "Sovereign" doesn't occur in the KJV."
Jer 50:25 Master YHWH. Luke 2:29 YHWH, now lettest thou... Acts 4:24 ...their voice to YHWH with one accord, and said, YHWH, thou art Elohim.... Rev 6:10 ...loud voice, saying, How long, O YHWH, holy and true,...
Quote by you "We have been lied to for the last 70 years+". Realize the lies have gone on for far far longer. You woke some (media, etc) but have a lot to still wake up too, Pro 1:5.
@bigmikey1979 All you have to do is study the Hebrew language and go back to the oldest uses of the paleo Hebrew alephbet. "Study to show thyself approved". You haven't realized you are promoting the curses and destruction of this world by advocating using words that change YHWH's Word, see YahshaYahu (Isa.) 24:5-6.
@bigmikey1979 You don't read paleo Hebrew so can't prove anything to you until you learn more than you already know about the etymology of YHWH. You can find paleo Hebrew lessons online, just start studying and you'll find what you are looking for. Doesn't Isa. 52:5-6 say His people know His Name, why can't you believe that? BTY there is no "J" in the Hebrew, Greek, or Latin, and no "J" in the old English, so we can't have a Jehovah or a Jesus without lying.
@bigmikey1979: Yahweh is Latin for Jupiter, study Latin to realize this. Jehovah is rooted to hovah, H1943, defining as ruin, trickery, deception. The letter J was not around at the time scripture was written, it was the last letter added to the alphabet. Clearly neither is YHWH's name.
@MinisterQuietBuck Yahweh is Latin for Jupiter? It's yourself that's in the 3rd grade! What absolute nonsense you write. Just like the Koine Greek, Latin had no letter 'Y' in its alphabet.
@adysaxman77: Since you refuse scripture, I end this discussion. You are too high minded to learn. Take note who does not profit in Heb 13:17
2Tim 2:22-23 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on YHWH out of a pure heart. But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Matt 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
@MinisterQuietBuck I don't refuse Scripture at all! It's yourself that tries to change it. Answer this ... When David named Baal-Perasim thus, did he do it to glorify the storm god Baal? Or did he name it that way to glorify the 'Lord' of the breakthroughs that brought about his victories???? And you say that I am 'too high minded to learn' !*!*! Take the plank out of your own eye, and admit the error of your ways.
The ISR uses the Textus Receptus [NT] and the Masoretic text [OT] as it's base text. Those are the same base texts for the King James Version. They then modified those texts as they saw fit, by utilizing the Nestle-Aland texts and Shem Tob. The ISR omits the reference to the Messiah's Deity [Theos/God] from 1 Timothy 3:16, do you believe that Messiah is Elohim? If so, why then do you read and advocate a so-called Bible that is blasphemous?
@Faithlikeachild777 So what Scriptures do you read and obey? I don't know of a perfect translation from the original languages to the English, do you?
@natzrim It's not myself that condemns people for not using the name that I personally call upon, and it's not myself that is promoting a 'new bible' (IRS) which goes against THE major tenet of the Scriptures which has come down through millennia, found in every other Bible that I personally am aware of, (excluding the J.W's abomination) undoubtedly proclaiming that Elohim was manifest in the flesh 1 Tim 3:16. The Bibles which I read do not omit this! You promote one which does, why?
@Faithlikeachild777 So which "Bibles" do you read? Do you not read in Matthew 12 that Messiah identifies Beelzebub", the lord of the dung, as Satan? I don't agree 100% with any translation, do you, if so which one/s? Also, do you advocate "Lord, God and Jesus" as being in the oldest Scriptures available to us? So, "Jesus", was the quoted name of the elohim manifest in the flesh in Yahrushalim in the 1st Century in your "Bibles" that are not blasphemous, is that correct?
@natzrim You don't agree 100% with any Bible, but you promote one (IRS) that has vitally important Scripture 'missing', (1 Tim 3:16) again, why? The Bible states that Messiah's name was written in Hebrew, Greek & Latin (John 19:19-20) so, do you dispute that the Messiah's name at the time of His crucifixion was readily transliterated into two languages,other than that of 'Hebrew'? I read in Matthew 1:23 a virgin shall conceive (same as Greek Septuagint) .. see the Hebrew Isaiah 7:14
@Faithlikeachild777 Well, what was His Name at the time of the execution of Messiah?
Can you not answer the simple questions I previously asked you? If you can't answer my simple questions then how is this dialogue going to work? You just keep being an asshole and I'll just block you, or you can straighten up and we'll keep talking. So what will it be? Now, do you agree 100% or not with any version?
@natzrim I asked you this question 2 days ago .... The ISR omits the reference to the Messiah's Deity [Theos/God] from 1 Timothy 3:16, do you believe that Messiah is Elohim? If so, why then do you read and advocate a so-called Bible that is blasphemous? Yet you haven't answered, but twisted the question around to what Bibles I read, and what I advocate as being 'oldest scriptures'. I didn't make the video nor promote the IRS bible, but you did! Answer this, and refrain from name calling.
@Faithlikeachild777 I answered your question, and I don't promote the ISR; I promote YHWH's Name. Who is the Rock according to 1Cor. 10:1-4? What's His Name? Read Deut. 32:1-4 and look up the horrible word "LORD" and you'll find It is "YHWH" (H3068) in the Strongs. So, does that answer your question. Now answer my questions, and please tell me when the replacement name of "Jesus" was first used in the translations of the Greek text of Scripture also please? Thanks.
@natzrim I asked you this 9 months ago ... Tell me, what Bible do you read? You most likely have a few, but what is the one that comes the closest to an accurate translation in your opinion? This was your reply ... There is no perfect translation as far as I know at this time. I have The Scriptures (ISR) I use when reading and teaching. etc., Yet you claim that you don't promote the ISR? The word LORD is taken from the Greek kyrios, which came from the Hebrew translators of the LXX cont ...
@Faithlikeachild777 The earliest LXX DID NOT have "Kyrios" in place of the Name of YHWH they actually had the Name of YHWH in the paleo Hebrew script. Change is not always good.
I also use the KJV, HOT, LXX, RSV, NAS, Peshitta, Young's Literal and other translations when I study or teach. Please prove what you say or that I'm wrong about "kyrios" not being in the earliest LXX. If you can I'll apologize, if not, then you apologize and admit you are wrong. I'm waiting.
@natzrim Papyrus Rylands 458 (the oldest LXX) The manuscript has been used in discussions about the Tetragrammaton, although there are actually blank spaces in the places where some scholars such as C. H. Roberts believe that it contained letters.[3] According to Paul E. Kahle, the Tetragrammaton must have been written in the manuscript where these breaks or blank spaces appear. Blank spaces = Paleo Hebrew letters does it? Is that intellectual enough for you?
@natzrim 1 Corinthians 8:6 ἀλλ' ἡμῖν εἷς Θεὸς ὁ Πατήρ, ἐξ οὗ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἡμεῖς εἰς αὐτόν, καὶ εἷς Κύριος Ἰησοῦς Χριστός, δι' οὗ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἡμεῖς δι' αὐτοῦ. But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. This is New Testament in Greek, is it intellectually 'sound' for you? Or would you prefer Paleo letters which are Phonecian in origin?
@Faithlikeachild777 When did Koine Greek have a "J" letter or sound in it? When was the first "J" sounding letter ever written in the Greek language? What about the Phonecian language was there a "J" sound or letter in it? What about the Latin was there a "J" sound in it? So, how would the Name of the Messiah have been pronounced in the 1st Century?
@natzrim Again, when Pilate ordered the inscription to be written in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, (John 19:20) two of the said languages didn't have either a 'Y' or a 'Sh' sounding, so they used an equivalent that were in the paramaters of that language = Iesous, Were they wrong to do this? The English language changed or developed over the centuries to replace a 'Y' with a 'J' is that wrong? Does that change the personage of Messiah, does it change His identity?
@Faithlikeachild777 The oldest manuscripts have the nomina sacra and not Iesous. So, how can we be sure that the nomina sacra was a name, like iesous, and not a title?
Why should translate a name through a series of languages when all we should do is transliterate it from the original language into our own tongue. Jorge is pronounced "George", but when addressing a Mexican male with this name we say "Hor-hay" b/c that is how he introduced himself. It's a matter of respect.
@natzrim We can be sure because the N.T reveals that Pilate had the name of Yehoshua written in two other languages = Greek & Latin = John 19:19-20, which proves the Hebrew name of Messiah was known in those other two languages. Maybe it would be common courtesy to pronounce a name in the home of the language itself such as 'Hor-hay' in Mexico, but Christianity spread to Greek speaking nations, therefore it was courtesy to give to them its Greek transliteration already available.
@Faithlikeachild777 It changed His Name, and that's wrong. What if your pay check was written out to a name that did not belong to you? And if your wife was to call you by an old boy friend and tell you that your name isn't important, could you easily accept that?
@natzrim If my pay cheque had been written in my name of Yochanan and I lost it, and then it was unearthed 2,000 years later and sent to a far of country where some of my traceable descendants had moved to, and they spoke in the language whereby the 'Y' had hardened to a 'J', then I wouldn't mind at all if they chose to call me Johnathan, why would that bother me? I don't understand your analogy of my wife calling me by a former boyfriend's name? Please explain.
@Faithlikeachild777 I will not waste any more of your time or mine. You're blind to the Truth now, perhaps you'll be able to see someday soon. Your reasoning and excuses are childish and ridiculous. YHWH never changes and His Name is the same forever and It is the "only Name" where there is salvation and protection. Use your false pagan names like the Baal worshipers and you'll fall as they did. Read Rev.16:9 and try to understand what it means. I hope you wake up soon.
@natzrim What is your problem with the letter 'J' ? There are many countries with different languages that don't use a J letter, some call the Messiah 'Yesu', so they don't have the 'shua' pronunciation to the Herbrew / Aramaic name of Messiah, what about those in your 'language political correctness book'?
@Faithlikeachild777 The problem is simple, unless you are someone that doesn't adore and respect the Name of YHWH, If Messiah was called Yahushua (H3091) as Strong's says, and His Name means Yahu saves then why would we desecrate YHWH's Name and make JE saves the meaning of Yahushua? He was a Hebrew and "SUS" means horse in Hebrew, so was Messiah a horse? What's your problem with calling Messiah the same Name He was called in the 1st Century and before? "ONE NAME" not enough?
@natzrim You clearly have little understanding of the etymology of words, and the different phonetics of words transliterated into another language. The ending sound of “ah” which would be a vowel sound is not allowed in Greek, therefore, an “s” was added which is how masculine names always end in Greek, i.e Gaius, Archippus, Tychicus etc., Messiah cannot be a horse, and the only way he could be one, is through your faulty understanding of languages.
@Faithlikeachild777 You clearly do not understand YHWH never changes. You do not know the Torah of YHWH therefore you unable to comprehend the Way of YHWH. Why call YHWH by a Greek, Latin, or English name or title that has no connection to the etymology of His Name whatsoever. Even a 2nd grader understands there is no connections between "LORD" and "YHWH" phonetically, or alphabetically. Study to prove what you should believe according to the Word Of YHWH, forget traditions.
@natzrim The Bible reveals that 42,000 Ephraimites lost their lives because of their inability to pronounce the Hebrew word 'Shibboleth' from their very own language, saying instead (at the cost of their lives) 'Sibboleth' (see Judges 12:4-6). The Greek language doesn't even contain a 'sh' sounding, I'm sure our learned friend 'MrsQuietBuck' will inform you. How much longer do you believe the Good News would have taken to spread in the Greek speaking nations taking this fact into account?
@Faithlikeachild777 : The problem with the letter J is that it has nothing to do with the Messiah's Name. Satan spends his entire existence trying to mislead people. What can't you see? If you read scripture, it even states that another will come using his own name and him you will follow. And with billions following the J versions...I'm sorry, YHWH is crystal clear on His Name.
@MrsQuietBuck Another will come in his own name? So Satan has changed his name to Jesus has he? Then he can't be fulfilling Scripture by your own inane reckoning then can he? If Satan comes in the name of Satan, pray tell, who's going to trust in him? You seriously need to look at the Greek word oànoma and realize it has several meanings and is not restricted to one.
@Faithlikeachild777 I speak Greek fluently and lived in Greece for many many years. Do You speak Greek fluently? Have you studied hours upon hours upon the Name and all the translations? The answer is in John. 5:43. I stand by YHWH and not transliterated changed names nor church taught Nicene created changes. Thank you ma'am for showing me ignorance to a high level. Even 8eos, is not our Creator's Name, but a term. He specifically tells us to call His Name.
@MrsQuietBuck Go Sister!! This person is a swine that loves unclean things. We are wasting precious time; I am letting Satan have faithlikeachild777. We've admonished many times and to no avail. He/she has no desire to know YHWH or what YHWH has said; he doesn't care what Messiah said in John chp. 17, or anywhere else for that matter. But he likes the changes men have made to YHWH's Name and His Words; Isaiah 24:5-6 will be his reward for loving the changes.
@natzrim Messiah taught us how to pray = 'our Father' and not 'our YHWH' so why do you kick against the pricks? Show me just once, where the four Hebrew letters are found in the N.T. You're letting Satan have me are you? According to your ramblings, he has me already hasn't he, with myself calling (on occasion) the Father by way of the title 'Lord' or God, (see 1 Corinthians 8:5-6) or the name of Jesus ? Pray tell, how are you going to accomplish handing me over to Satan?
@Faithlikeachild777 You already are Satan's; I've given up that you can change your reprobate mind. Tell me what you think Kefa actually said in Acts 2:21 on that day of Shavuot when he quoted Yoel 2:32? Did Kefa say "the Lord" or "YHWH" is the Name to call upon on that day?
@natzrim According to the majority of sacred namers, Messiah was condemned for blasphemy of daring to mention the 'ineffable' name, in direct opposition to the Pharasaic tradition of not mentioning it. So, in light of this, I would say that Peter in Acts 2:21 would have used the substitute 'Adonai', otherwise the crowd would have stoned him for blasphemy also.
@Faithlikeachild777 They did use the Name of YHWH. Read Acts 9:14, & 26:11. They did not use Adonai when the Name was clearly being called upon. Some of the disciples were stoned for using the Name of YHWH.
Just try to try and understand what all the Scriptures teach about the Name of YHWH. Please rid your self of the blasphemous names and begin to call upon YHWH. You are free to choose what you want to call YHWH, but you need to find out what it means to "qara" on His Name
@natzrim Acts 9:14 is the name of Yehoshua not the four letters Yod Hey Waw Hey. The Father's name wasn't clearly being called at all, it's like you want to assume (as do the majority of sacred namers) that they crucified Messiah for the sin of blasphemy (what sacred namers interpret as the Pharasaic stance of uttering the divine name audibly) whilst at the same time everyone else was 'free to do so' without it being blasphemy, and no fear of punishment!
@Faithlikeachild777 Read and quote 1Cor. 12:3 from the Aramaic and then tell us all who Yahushua is if you will according to this verse. If you can't post the Truth about this verse found in the Aramaic Peshitta then I'll do it for your sake and everyone else that is seeing these comments. But I want you to be the one to tell us what it says or stay off this channel, cause you are only arguing to prove what you teach not what the Scriptures teach, but we'll await your reply.
@natzrim Acts 26:11 what do you believe Paul meant? Here's a clue for you from the Aramaic Bible in plain English. " And I was torturing them in every Synagogue as I was pressing them to blaspheme the name of Yeshua, and I was filled with great rage against them. I was also going out to other cities to persecute them.” Hope this helps your misunderstanding.
@Faithlikeachild777 You don't remember or read my replies do you? YHWH is who Messiah actually is. Read 1Cor.10:1-4 and then Deut. 32:1-4 and try to understand who Messiah actually is so you'll stop trying to prove it's okay to blaspheme His Name with Satan's changes to YHWH's Word.
@Faithlikeachild777 Godbless you but i wanted to correct you. Lord just means master. In the ancient times lord was given to monarks and empores. My lord or master is what they called these monarks. Also ya hu wah sounds like ja hov a. We have to just keep the bible as it is which is God words. Also i have one question where you baptised under yahuwah or jesus?
in the only hebrew text where Jesus name is mentioned (later by Jews as being the illegitimate son of Mary) is Yesua In greek is Iisu-s syrian Yesu arabic Isa hebrew Yesua S must have been part of the name that most probably was Yes(h)ua why would you say its Yahuwah?
is it bcoz ...i quote from below"YHWH is who Messiah actually is" is he ? there is no difference between God the Father and God the Son?
@delagrazia The difference is no man has seen or heard the Father at anytime, Jn.1:18; 5:37;& Jn. 6:46. Messiah is YHWH (Yah-oo-ah) according to 1 Cor. 10:1-4 and Dewt. 32:1-4. They are not the same being, one is the Father YHWH, and the other is YHWH the Son. The Son was sent here by His Father, as the above Scriptures prove He is the Rock, YHWH, read the verses given above. Please let me know if you can see this too. Thank you.
@Faithlikeachild777 How can you keep on with your unlearned remarks? "Yahushua" is what YHWH was called when He was born as a human child into this word by His earthly mother. However, His real identity or proper name is YHWH, pronounced Yah-oo-ah. "Isa. 43:11 “I, I am יהוה, and besides Me there is no saviour." Since no man had ever heard or seen the Father (Jn. 1:18; Jn.6:46) then all those who had heard the Savior heard the Son whose Name is also YHWH.
@Faithlikeachild777 He also said "Sacred is Thy Name" and He also said, "I have made your Name known" in Yochanon (JN.) chp. 17. He also said "I have come in My Father's Name". He said to Ephesus in Rev. 2:13, "you hold fast to My Name". In Rev. 3:8, " you have not denied My Name." You do not hold fast to His Name and you blaspheme His Sacred Name with your Greek, Latin, and English replacements. Will Mal. 3:16-18 awaken you, and will your name be in that book?
@Faithlikeachild777 Isa 52:5 “And now, what have I here,” declares יהוה, “that My people are taken away for naught? Those who rule over them make them wail,” declares יהוה, “and My Name is despised all day continually.
Isa 52:6 “Therefore My people shall know My Name, in that day, for I am the One who is speaking. See, it is I.”
You have denied, despised, blasphemed, desecrated, and taught lies against YHWH long enough. Rev. 16:9 accurately predicts your future.
@natzrim Can you show me in the N.T anywhere that Messiah uttered the pronunciation of the 4 Hebrew letters of YHWH? In-turn, I will show you multiple examples of how Messiah approached the Creator of Heaven and Earth .... as FATHER! I note that you had nothing to say regarding the Ephraimites' inability to pronounce the 'sh' in Shibboath (Judges 12:4-6), don't sacred namers say that Ephraim represents the Gentiles? There lies the answer! The Greeks = no problem uttering Iesous.
@Faithlikeachild777 YHWH Messiah could call YHWH the Father, "Abba" as it is for us to do the same as well. But His Name is YHWH, and we are told to call (Qara) upon His Name. You've got to come to terms that the Greek manuscripts are copies and many are several years removed from the original letters. You don't have any answers worth considering for your just another blasphemer that loves pagan ways and names. I don't mean any disrespect, just giving it to you straight.
@natzrim I don't mean any disrespect, but the language that a person speaks does not 'in itself' signify that person to be 'pagan', rather, the manner or by what means the person worships their false deity, other than the true Almighty. The Father confused the single language into many languages at Babel, so by your inane methodology, does that make the Father in-turn pagan? You use one slant of the word blasphemy and you take it to the extreme. That my friend is dogmatism.
@Faithlikeachild777 "“I am יהוה your Elohim (Ex.20:7)." For I, יהוה your Elohim am a jealous Ěl, (Ex.20:5). Exo 20:7 “You do not bring1 the Name of יהוה your Elohim to naught, for יהוה does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught.
Psa 44:20 If we have forgotten the Name of our Elohim... You have taught against the Word and Name of YHWH and will not repent, so it is you that will fulfill the curse you have brought upon your self due to your sins.
@Faithlikeachild777 : Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
I own the Greek New Testament. Do you have the original NT in Greek? I don't. I have the modern. I had many friends who were priests and monks in Greece. Even They will tell you scripture has been infiltrated. But they must teach what they teach
@Faithlikeachild777 :Cont. To KEEP THEIR JOBS! So they can speak to those who will listen while they risk their souls. My walk with YHWH is NOT for the faint of heart. I would not speak with conviction if I hadn't had the walk I had! Therefore, with my learning in baby steps, in which I too, was ignorant, I am humbled by the fact we all have been lied to!!!!
@MrsQuietBuck YHWH are four letters that form a part of the name, I'm not dogmatic by trying to enforce on anyone what I believe makes up the vowels that go with the consonants. I certainly don't judge anyone for using the language that their parents taught them, for by doing so I would be asking them to break the 5th Commandment. The Father confused the languages at Babel, so why do you believe that languages that the Father Himself confused, are a 'stench' to His nostrils?
@Faithlikeachild777: Sir or Madam, whomever I am addressing here, Please do not put words in my mouth. As the wife of a minister who spends most of his day in studies, Scripture speaks clearly. I shall not waste my time anymore with this debate. I am not trying to force you to believe anything, trying to open your eyes to scripture that you refuse to listen to. It is not me you contend with but scripture itself. Ask and you shall receive. Simple as that.
@Faithlikeachild777 Do you know what dogmatic means and how it is used in the Scriptures? It's the teachings or thoughts of men, so I'd have to say you're about as dogmatic as anybody I've ever talked to. It's obvious the disciples knew and used the Name of YHWH, but you dogmatically hound those of us that follow Messiah and the disciples trying to get us to relent and see your ideas instead of YHWH's, so yeah, you're dogmatic, and you oppose the teachings of Messiah.
@Faithlikeachild777 The Muslims have one they call upon - the false one, that is the one you must be careful not to follow. We are bretherine in Christ.Messiah gave us the name FATHER as in " Our FATHER which art in heaven " we become as his children, do not children call upon their FATHER and we were instructed to call no man father.Does one need to be a linguist to know who his father is , does the Most high not know his own and can he not read the hearts of men?
@Faithlikeachild777 In the oldest manuscripts there was no "Ἰησοῦς Χριστός" dear neighbor. So, what do you want people to do about that? Just accept a lie, or a false name? No, I can't do that. Jesus Christ is a pure lie and can not possibly be the name of the Messiah. Check out P46. Shalom.
@natzrim Dear neighbour, in the oldest (Greek) manuscripts there was no "יהשוה" either! So what do you want to do about that? Accept a pronunciation that totally is dependant on vowel points, inserted a full 700 - 1,000 years after the Messiah by Masorite Jews? How can you possibly know that your pronunciation is the 'true one' ? What about Origen, do you accept all his other doctrine, or just when it concerns languages that adhere to your understanding?
@Faithlikeachild777 Look to the oldest manuscripts for answers. The manuscripts that have the sacred names are more accurate according to Origen; they should at least have the nomina sacra instead of the terms that were used later to replace them, i.e. theos, kyrios, Iesous, and Christos. There is no need to keep the insults up. Thanks.
@natzrim as there wasn't a 'Y' letter in the Greek, they used what was available to them and what befits in that language = Kyrios. Obviously the letter 'J' is part of another alphabet as it developed, it's like saying "show me in the Greek scriptures 'email' is it not?
@Faithlikeachild777It's not obvious to you that "kyrios" is an addition and a change to YHWH's Word, is it? No, it's not like saying "show me...email" b/c they didn't have email and they did have the Name of YHWH and the Name of the Messiah, and these Names were given in the earliest Septuagint and then later changed to remove the Names of salvation. Your arguments are seriously flawed and without any concrete facts. Please use intellectual arguments and facts in your reply.
@natzrim You asked ... and please tell me when the replacement name of "Jesus" was first used in the translations of the Greek text of Scripture also please? Thanks. In which event it is like asking me to show/ prove the word email was extant in the Greek Scriptures, because give or take a few hundred years, both the concept of the letter 'J' and of the word email came about much, much later, than the time that the Scriptural texts were written in the Koine Greek language. Hope this helps.
@natzrim So blasphemy is saying the Hebrew name of Messiah in another language? Is that what you are implying? There was a tremendous gap between the writings of Moses (circa 1,400 B.C) and the oldest extant Hebrew manuscripts (Dead Sea Scrolls) circa 250 B.C, over 1,000 years! So how do you know that the letters have been 'unchanging' over that time span? Languages change over time don't they? There is a far lesser time gap between the writings of the N.T and the oldest Greek texts.
Natzrim... I found this video when you first put it out (I am comment #6 from a yr ago). I had no clue you were under this kind of attack. I will frequent this video more often to assist in speaking truth to those who resist sound doctrine. Have a good sabbath.
Ps 34:3 O magnify YHWH with me, and let us exalt his name together.
@MinisterQuietBuck Shabbat Shalom Achi, YHWH bless you. I would appreciate the help. If there is ever anything I can do to help you also, just let me know. BTY I like your channel. Thanks again.
this is absolutely false disinfo. JESUS is called lord of lords, king of kings. yahwehs son is called lord as well as him. not just satan. you are splitting hairs. duet. 10:17 says GOD is LORD OF LORDS. YES YOU SHOULD USE OUR CREATORS NAME, BUT IN INSTANCES YOU CAN SAY LORD. HE KNOWS YOUR HEART. MAL. 3:1.... 1 CO.8:5 THERE ARE MANY GODS AND MANY LORDS... EPH. 4:5 ONE lord,ONE FAITH,ONE BAPTISM... 1 TIM.6:15. JAMES 2:1, . GET REAL...
Ex 3:15 And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YHWH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: THIS IS MY NAME FOR EVER, and this is my memorial unto ALL GENERATIONS.
Ps 145:21 My mouth shall speak the praise of YHWH: and let all flesh bless HIS HOLY NAME for ever and ever.
Ps 113:3, Ps 99:3, Deut 28:58, Mic 4:5, 1Ch 16:10, Ez 39:7, Ps 116:13, Pro 18:10
@AchreousD Show exactly where the words, Lord, God, and Jesus are used in the oldest manuscripts. Adonay does not mean "LORD" especially since YHWH is what was in the oldest texts of Scripture then Adonay, or Adonai was used to replace His Name. You proved this when you gave the definitions of these two different words that have different meanings in a previous comment. SO you amen something you've already proven to be a lie. You love lies, see your description in 2Thess. chapter 2.
@bigmikey1979: J name is false, Jn 5:43, Is 7:14, Ex 3:14-15. The L word is a name for baal, Jer 23:27, Hos 2:13. Yahweh is Latin for Jupiter, not YHWH's name nor found on any scroll, stone. Splitting hairs, Mal 3:6, Pro 24:21? Define troop, Is 65:11, H1408 (G word).
Is 42:8 I am YHWH: THAT IS MY NAME: and my glory will I NOT give to another, NEITHER my praise to graven images.
Ps 124:8 OUR HELP is in THE NAME name of YHWH, who made heaven and earth.
@bigmikey1979 You are using a blasphemous translation which is teaching lies. I know this sounds harsh, but Truth is harsh when it shows us we are wrong. The word "LORD" was not ever used to refer to Elohim, i.e., the Father, His Son, or His Spirit, in the original or oldest texts of the Scriptures. We are tested to prove our love for YHWH.
Show me one verse that says "Lord" is YHWH's Name and I'll show thousands that say His Name is YHWH. Try to prove what you say & be objective.
Okay, this is getting annoying, not the subject or your error, but the writing back and forth. So, I will make a video response... Hopefully you will allow it to been seen here... Peace unto you and yours...
@AchreousD Good, make a video. Please tell us what Ex. 3:15 says, and other passages like: Gen. 4:26; 13:4; Isa. 43:11, and Psa. 74:18. There are thousands of verses that use YHWH that the masorites vowel pointed out to say Adonay, so it is you that keep the traditions of those that change YHWH's Name, not I. I'm not fooled by lies; I know what YHWH said. So quote Exo. 3:15 and 15:3 on your video and post it now on this page for all to see, or repent. Thanks.
Y'all are all acting silly when Moses got sent to Egypt God said call me I am why u think you have some secret revelation is beyond me everyone has different names in different languages it's no big deal really God is also alpha and omega you think he cares if you change it from first and last or beginning and end?all the same thing mean the same thing and on top of everything I wanna see a phd in ancient Hebrew and Greek. Nother example when the 120 got the holy spirit they were able to speak
johnboyakaflamingo 6 days ago
@johnboyakaflamingo Where does it say to call HIM "I am"? Not in Ex.3:14, but He does say His Name is YHWH in the next verse (Ex.3:15) and He says that's His Name "forever" and His memorial to all generations. Please study more about His Name, for you are following the false ideas of men and ignoring the Word of YHWH unfortunately.
"God" is the name of a pagan deity, see Is. 65:11 in the original tongue. Try viewing "HaShem Revealed" on youtube. Best Wishes to you.
natzrim 5 days ago
It's not 'Yahuwah', it's 'Yahawah'. There is no 'u' in Ancient Hebrew.
Apprentice700 1 week ago
@Apprentice700 Are you sure that the Waw doesn't have an "oo" sound?
natzrim 1 week ago
@natzrim The name of the Most High is in the language IBar (eye-bahr), which is Ancient Hebrew in its own language. In IBar, the letters are phonetically spelled as such:
Ah, Ba, Ga, Da, Ha, Wa, Za, Chaa (like in Arabic, but harder), Ta, Ya, Ka, La, Ma, Na, Sa, I (as in 'eye'), Pa, Taza, Qa, Ra, Sha, and Tha.
Taking the Most High's name all the way back to IBar (which is the first language, with many written variations), it phonetically translates to Ya-Ha-Wah ('h' is a silent Ha).
Apprentice700 1 week ago
@Apprentice700 Your claims do not agree with what I have learned the ancient waw means: Add, Secure, Hook, and it has the sound of a "w, o", or a "u". Where do you get your information? How can you make such a claim without any proof? I'M OPEN TO HEAR YOUR CLAIMS BUT PROOF MUST BE GIVEN.
natzrim 1 week ago
@natzrim What I think your talking about is Modern Hebrew. What I'm talking about is Ancient Hebrew. There is a BIG difference. Modern Hebrew is an alternate form of Yiddish. Ancient Hebrew is . . . ancient. I don't really know how to prove the existence of a language; it's just there. However, I can direct you to a page that says the same thing (even though there are a couple mess-ups and a missing letter, but it's okay):
freewebs (dot) com/israelitenation/learnhebrew.htm
Apprentice700 1 week ago
@Apprentice700 Try ancient hebrew dot org. Also watch "messengerofthename", be sure to watch his video "HaShem Revealed".
If the hey (H) is silent in YHWH then how would you pronounce YHWDH? I've spoken with Nehemia Gordon of Israel and he says the most likely Katav Ivri pronunciation of the Name of YHWH is Yah-oo-ah. He's a graduate of Hebrew University and is a translator of ancient documents. What are your credentials?
natzrim 1 week ago
@natzrim Your domain does not exist. And again, they are different languages. DIFFERENT languages. That's like saying a Korean translator doesn't agree with a Indonesian translator on what the word 'sarang' means (love in Korean, nest in Indonesian). Or saying a Spanish man pronounces Michael different from an Arabic man. You keep talking about Modern Hebrew, I'm talking about IBar (Ancient Hebrew)
P.S. I would assume YHWDH would refer to YaHaWaDah, which is Judah in English.
Apprentice700 1 week ago
@Apprentice700 No I'm speaking of ANCIENT HEBREW. If you will send me your email address I'll send you links to show you. My email is yahudim@live.com.
YHWDH is Yahudah, every scholar I know agrees about this. Who is your scholar or scholarly source?
natzrim 1 week ago
@natzrim The "Ancient Hebrew" in that site is nothing but Modern Hebrew with Proto-sinaitic characters. I know this because their phonetic spelling is the SAME. Try this:
thehouseofdavid(.)info/hebrew_our_true_language.html
This explains it better than I can.
Apprentice700 1 week ago
@Apprentice700 The site you recommended is interesting but without any real worth since most of it is mere opinion. I read several articles but the "12 tribes of Israel" is the real telling of just how far man will go to lead men astray with their own teachings of which they have no authority to teach. Your words about the ancient Hebrew are misguided and without any real worth for they are without any historical or factual evidence. Don't trust men with empty words. Shalom.
natzrim 1 week ago
@Apprentice700 Try ancient hyphen hebrew dot org. and see if that works.
natzrim 1 week ago
I meant your help not 'you' help I should have proof read that
yackyick 1 month ago
@yackyick Don't worry about that, I do stuff like that all the time. YHWH bless you and keep you. Shalom.
natzrim 1 month ago
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YAAQUBEL 1 month ago
Thank you I really appreciate you help with The Name.~May YHWH heap blessings upon you~
yackyick 1 month ago
Please give me the references to how you believe the name is Yahuwah(sorry not sure how to spell that name)
yackyick 1 month ago
And for this cause YHWH shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
MrsQuietBuck 1 month ago
2 Thess: 2:8-12And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Messiah shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
MrsQuietBuck 1 month ago
You are correct, the name of the Father is YHWH, not Lord; you are also correct in that Lord is literally, another name/title for Baal, a.k.a. - Satan!
MuchTooLearnUSH 2 months ago
@MuchTooLearnUSH Thanks for the comment. It's refreshing to see that there are those that realize A+B= B+A and other simple truths. YHWH bless you.
natzrim 2 months ago
John 5:37-47.
MrsQuietBuck 2 months ago
@MrsQuietBuck I don't think most of the false name users even read the Scripture references we give them most of the time. So, do they really want to know the truth? I don't think so. But I'm not going to stop praising YHWH and loving the poor ignorant souls enough to tell them about YHWH and His Ways.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim
Proverbs 1:25
But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
This is the blessing. The love you have for YHWH...scripture is a delicious food to be digested. :)
MrsQuietBuck 2 months ago
So let's recap shall we?
A) You can't show me one single manuscript that supports you.
B) you can't show me one single time in the NT where the Jews reacted to Jesus using the divine name.
C) All I got was silence from you when I showed you Josephus quote.
D) You can't even read Acts 9 correctly. Acts 9:17 clearly shows who was talking to Ananias.
E) All you did, was name call and demand that I leave your channel because you couldn't answer me.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc You don't know Messiah. He is YHWH. 1Cor. 10:1-4 says He was the Rock in the exodus. Deut. 32:1-4 says the Rock is YHWH. Since no man has ever seen the Father of heard Him at anytime according to the Messiah and the Apostle John then all those that heard and seen YHWH saw the Messiah YHWH!
You don't know whom you worship, and you certainly are a "bastard", yeah that "foul" word found in the KJV that describes those who will not hear the Word of YHWH.
natzrim 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc John 1:18 No one has ever seen Elohim.(1) The only brought-forth Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He did declare.(2) Footnotes: 1See 5:37, 6:46, 1 John 4:12. 2The pre-existent Son declared, and was the One who appeared to men.
Learn the Truth or be a bastard that can't be corrected by the Word of YHWH. Worship false deities and false names. You have that right, but I warned you and you wouldn't listen. To Satan you shall go by your choice.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim Also, you never answered my questions regarding the Jews reaction to everything BUT Christ using the divine name. Please answer each and every one of them please. I will not believe until you answer those questions.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc If you idolize knowledge and the cunning of man you already are in bondage to Satan. Believe the lies that knowledge can save you if you want, but it will take you straight to the lake of fire..
notyranny1 2 months ago
@natzrim When he uses the name "Father" in the verse, what does that tell you. Even he used "Father" in Matt 6:9 "our FATHER ...hallowed be your name..."
If Jesus said YHWH or Our Lord, hallowed be your name,..."
You'd have a point. But the Jews tryed to stone him for introducing "Father" to the Jews.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
Isaiah 66:5
Hear the word of YHWH, ye that tremble at his word;
your brethren that hated you,
that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let YHWH be glorified:
but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.
MrsQuietBuck 2 months ago
Jeremiah 8:8
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of YHWH is with us?
Lo, certainly the lying pen of the scribes hath made it falsehood.
MrsQuietBuck 2 months ago
"Also would you please prove the apostles wrote "Lord" and even "Jesus" if you can. Thanks."
We know that they did because the only manuscripts to ever show up ONLY CONTAINED 'Jesus' and 'Lord' in them. I too can argue that jesus real name was bob" but evil scribes removed it for jesus. But I don't have to because it isn't me who is making the claim that the Christian scriptures have been tampered with... YOU ARE. So the burden of poof is NOT on me, but on YOU to prove the other.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc There is not one First Century Greek manuscript of the New Testament that has "Jesus" or "Lord" in it for the name of the Savior. You are the one claiming that "Jesus" and "Lord" were written by the apostles. They would never refer to the Messiah as "Jesus"or "Lord".
You've been deceived by translation. Names have meanings, but the meaning does not negate the proper name pronunciation. It didn't change the names of many demons, idols and even Satan, did it?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim Translation? You really don't know what you are talking about do you? I'm not talking about translations. I'm talking about the original koine greek manuscripts like P46. There is no divine name YHWH or the greek equivalent PIPI in the greek manuscripts. Anywhere, AT ALL.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc According to you and all the lying bastards that claim the Name of the Father was not used in the First Century, the Savior lied when he said in John 17:6 "I have manifested thy name unto the men.." Just because you can not find the Name of YHWH in COPIES of letters that are far removed from the originals then you bastards ignore the Word of YHWH that proves you are liars. You annul the Word of YHWH, and without any hesitation you oppose His teachings. Bastards!
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim According to you and all the lying bastards that claim the Name of the Father was not used in the First Century
In John 5:18 Christ called God his Father. This got a reaction from the Jews. Show me in the NT where the Jews reacted to Jesus using the divine name please.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc @pretoshohmoofc You've no clue what happened in Acts 9:14 do you? You want to remain ignorant, therefor you are! Read the references I already sent you that they knew and used the Name you deny and despise. You are like your father the devil. To hell with you, you lying bastard. You love the lies (2Thess.chp. 2).
You and all lying bastards to stay off my channel, unless you can dialogue and reason properly within ALL the Word of YHWH. No Marcionist here!
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim Acts chapter 9 is about Paul seeing Christ on the road to Demascus.
Vs.4-5 "Who are you Lord, ..I am Jesus."
Vs 13 is about the Lord appearing to Ananias in a vision.
Vs 17 "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus who appeared to you ...has sent me so that you may regain your sight. "
Talk about Blind. Please read you bible like a book and not a dictionary. Please.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc On the same subject, in Acts 26:14-15 Shaul says he heard a voice in the Hebrew language speaking to him. And the mistranslation in verse says it was j sus speaking which is impossible because there is no letter "j" in the Hebrew language, or the greek or latin. So we know the Mashiyach was Hebrew, so what Name did He give Shaul?
eldorod 2 months ago
@natzrim Besides all of your rantings, you've never answered any of my questions. Not one. All you did, was to demand and insist and call names. Well, Sir, name calling is the sign of a failed argument.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
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@natzrim in John 17:6 "I have manifested thy name unto the men.."
Re-read John 17:1 "Father, the hour has come..."
If he was saying, "Jehovah, the hour has come", then you'd have a point. but Jesus never called the Father Jehovah. Only when he was quoting scripture, and this was him saying "kurious". Not YHWH. There is no evidence for the other.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim In Luke 19:7 When Jesus entered the house of a sinner, the Jews freaked out. and yet, you are telling me that Jesus walked around saying "Jehovah this, and Jehovah that.." and not one single Jew even commented to him about this? NOT ONE?
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim In Luke 11:38 when the Pharisees saw that Jesus never washed his hands before eatting, the blew up, but you are telling me that he was saying "YHWH this, and YHWH that in the first century and not one single Jew even questioned him about it?
Not one?
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim When Jesus healed on the Sabbath, the Pharisees blew their tops. but not one of them got mad at him for using the divine name?
Really?
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim Even the Christian Jews like Peter questioned God in Acts 10:11-14 about eatting non clean food. And Peter being this good Jew in the first century didn't question Jesus using the divine name?
Come on!
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim Even other Christian Jews freaked out when gentiles came into the church in Acts 11:1. But not a single one, even asked or inquired about reinstating the divine name?
this blows my mind.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim The apostle Paul even started to teach that once Christians are saved, they can now call God "Father" in Rom 8:15
But you are trying to tell me that not one single Jew who lived in the first century along with Josephus even thought to bring up the idea that the divine name was now allowd again? Give me a break. You haven't worked out the details yet.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc YOU CAN NOT PRODUCE ONE SINGLE FIRST CENTURY GREEK MANUSCRIPT THAT HAS "JESUS" OR "LORD" IN IT. NOT ONE. SO, PUT IT UP HERE OR KEEP OFF MY CHANNEL. IF YOU CAN NOT AND WILL NOT REPENT FROM SPREADING LIES THEN I'M SURE YOU BE ONE OF THOSE BASTARDS DESCRIBED IN HEBREWS 12:8. SO WE'LL JUST ADD YOU TO THE BASTARD LIST THAT DESPISES THE WORD OF YHWH. READ THE WHOLE MESSAGE FROM YHWH THEN TELL ME HE IS JESUS THE LORD, AND SEAL YOUR FATE IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim You are arguing from silence. Josephus in his work The Antiquities of the Jews. chapter 12:4 is recorded as saying, "Where upon God delcared to him [Moes] his holy name, which had never been discovered to men before; concerning which it is not lawful for me to say anymore."
Josephus was a first century Jew who lived in the time when the apostles wrote the New Testament. So anyone who would have spoken the name, was stoned to death. There is no meation of the NT breaking this law.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim YOU CAN NOT PRODUCE ONE SINGLE FIRST CENTURY GREEK MANUSCRIPT THAT HAS "JESUS" OR "LORD"
And you can't produce one single first century greek manuscript that DOESN'T. So you are arguing from silence, which is a fallacy.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim As for the rest of your comment, big deal, it's just your opionion.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc: The burden of proof is within the book of truth.
Jer 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of YHWH is with us? Lo, certainly the lying pen of the scribes hath made it falsehood.
1611 KJV doesn't have jesus. No scroll nor stone contains jesus. The name is barely 500 yrs old. Messiah told you his name in Jn 5:43.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
By the beginning of the first century the divine name had been removed from the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament) and according to Josephus the pronouniation of the divine name was unlawful. So even if some Versions of the Septuagint DID contain the divine name in it, the Jews ALWAYS read "adoney" over the divine name because they believed it to be too Holy to say. Again, there isn't a single NT manuscript that is in existance that contains the hebrew word YHWH. Not ONE!!!
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc If this is true then why does the codex Sinaiticus, the oldest complete Greek New Testament, NOT have the name of Iesous or Jesus in it? If you'll study seeking the Truth instead of only accepting what you already believe, then you might have a chance to become enlightened by the Truth of YHWH. Now prove "Jesus" was used by the apostles as you say or keep quite please.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim If I said to you that, " that watermellons are really blue on the inside until you cult them open, prove me wrong," Only a fool would chase this tail.
Seeing as we have only observed red watermellons, the the burden of proof is on the one who is making the claim that they are infact blue.
Or in other words,I don't have to prove A NEGATIVE. YOU DO. If they used the divine name in the NT you need to prove it. Give reason why you believe it.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc John 17:6 "I have manifested thy name unto the men.." John 17:26 "And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it..." Acts9:14 "...all that call on thy name." Zep 3:9 “For then I shall turn unto the peoples a clean lip, so that they all call on the Name of יהוה,..."
You contradict the Word of YHWH, and the Savior, and you will not repent. You are an "anti-Christ"(1Jn.2:18) and a false teacher (Mt.5:19), and a lying bastard(Heb.12:8).
Apathetic too
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim And this name was "Father". this is why the Jews reacted to him using it in John 5:18.
Acts 9:14 is talking about Jesus, not the Father.
Vs. 5 "Saul saul, why are you persecuting me? Who are you Lord? He said, "I am Jesus." Even my bible shows Christ's quotes in Red.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim No, YOU contradict the Word of YHWH, and the Savior, and you will not repent. You are an "anti-Christ"(1Jn.2:18) and a false teacher (Mt.5:19), and a lying (Heb.12:8).
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim “For then I shall turn unto the peoples a clean lip,?
You, using such foul languae should talk about clean lips.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@natzrim Zep 3:9 To “call upon the Name of the Lord Jesus” Act_22:16; Rom 10:13 is the very title of Christian worship; “all that called upon the Name” Jesus, the very title of Christians Act 9:14, Act 9:21; 1Co 1:2.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc :This point you make using watermelons. Let's see. I have lived in other countries where the inside of some watermelons are Yellow! Therefore, just because you don't realize it exists doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I've lived abroad for many years. Other countries folk mock notions such as those you use here as arguments. Scripture explains clearly. Very clearly! Sir, I ask you seek our Father's face as He asks, much will become quite clear to you.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck :Sorry, I was on my husband's acct. by accident. The previous response was done by me.
MrsQuietBuck 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc This post really shows your ignorance of the Word that Messiah taught, for He clearly taught the Name of YHWH as John chp. 17 shows. In Acts 9:14 they were destroyed for using the forbidden Name of YHWH, and you can't see that either. SO you think the high priest rent his robe b/c Messiah spoke His own Name or said "father"! How ignorant can a false namer be? Real ignorant; they don't know the Word, not even the so-called "New Testament". Stay off my channel!
natzrim 2 months ago
The apostles wrote in the New Testament "Lord` kurios in Greek. They followed the tradition of the jews. If the apostles found nothing wrong with saying `Lord`then I don`t.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc The oldest Greek manuscripts do not contain "kurios". Please explain, "they followed the traditions of the jews". Also would you please prove the apostles wrote "Lord" and even "Jesus" if you can. Thanks.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim Seeing as you have never seen a New Testament Greek text that did NOT contain the greek word kurios, your whole argument hinges on begging the question which is a fallacy. There is no such thing in existance as a New Testament manuscript with the divine name in it. 100% of them that have been found ONLY CONTAINS kurios in them. So your argument is easy to disregard.
pretoshohmoofc 2 months ago
@pretoshohmoofc Keep in mind kurios is not a proper name, like Baal. Now scholars say Baal means lord,and kurios means lord. Also lord means kurios, but this does not properly convey the Name of the Messiah, or the meaning of His Name. Show us the Name of the Messiah in the oldest Greek manuscript of the N.T. that has "kurios" or "Iesous" instead of the nomina sacra in place of His Name. Refute Origen and the Mishnah that says the sacred Name was used by the apostles, or hush.
natzrim 2 months ago
what makes your translation right? king james that was written/translated 1600 years after yeshuah died? acts 4:24 YHWH is called soverign LORD. also show me the proof that its pronounced as you say instead of YAHWEH and JEHOVAH. you can't...
bigmikey1979 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979 NEVER is YHWH called soveriegn LORD in any of the earliest manuscripts of Hebrew or Greek that I can find. So where exactly is YHWH called "Sovereign LORD" as you proclaim?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim ps.73:28 , jer. 50:25 , luke 2:29 , acts 4:24 , rev.6:10 ALL say soverign lord
bigmikey1979 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979 You don't read Hebrew do you? The Hebrew says Adonai YHWH, not Sovereign Lord. The Greek texts I have read that you referenced do not contain Sovereign either, and as far as kurios goes I don't accept this word as ever being used to apply to YHWH b/c this was never done in the earliest manuscripts of the Septuagint. Men deviated from the use of YHWH's Name around 150 A.D.. Can you prove the use of theos or kurios in the earliest manuscripts of Scripture? Why not?
natzrim 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979: Quote from Concordance "The word "Sovereign" doesn't occur in the KJV."
Jer 50:25 Master YHWH. Luke 2:29 YHWH, now lettest thou... Acts 4:24 ...their voice to YHWH with one accord, and said, YHWH, thou art Elohim.... Rev 6:10 ...loud voice, saying, How long, O YHWH, holy and true,...
Quote by you "We have been lied to for the last 70 years+". Realize the lies have gone on for far far longer. You woke some (media, etc) but have a lot to still wake up too, Pro 1:5.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979 All you have to do is study the Hebrew language and go back to the oldest uses of the paleo Hebrew alephbet. "Study to show thyself approved". You haven't realized you are promoting the curses and destruction of this world by advocating using words that change YHWH's Word, see YahshaYahu (Isa.) 24:5-6.
natzrim 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979 You don't read paleo Hebrew so can't prove anything to you until you learn more than you already know about the etymology of YHWH. You can find paleo Hebrew lessons online, just start studying and you'll find what you are looking for. Doesn't Isa. 52:5-6 say His people know His Name, why can't you believe that? BTY there is no "J" in the Hebrew, Greek, or Latin, and no "J" in the old English, so we can't have a Jehovah or a Jesus without lying.
natzrim 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979: Yahweh is Latin for Jupiter, study Latin to realize this. Jehovah is rooted to hovah, H1943, defining as ruin, trickery, deception. The letter J was not around at the time scripture was written, it was the last letter added to the alphabet. Clearly neither is YHWH's name.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck Yahweh is Latin for Jupiter? It's yourself that's in the 3rd grade! What absolute nonsense you write. Just like the Koine Greek, Latin had no letter 'Y' in its alphabet.
adysaxman77 2 months ago
@adysaxman77: Since you refuse scripture, I end this discussion. You are too high minded to learn. Take note who does not profit in Heb 13:17
2Tim 2:22-23 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on YHWH out of a pure heart. But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
Matt 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck I don't refuse Scripture at all! It's yourself that tries to change it. Answer this ... When David named Baal-Perasim thus, did he do it to glorify the storm god Baal? Or did he name it that way to glorify the 'Lord' of the breakthroughs that brought about his victories???? And you say that I am 'too high minded to learn' !*!*! Take the plank out of your own eye, and admit the error of your ways.
adysaxman77 2 months ago
The ISR uses the Textus Receptus [NT] and the Masoretic text [OT] as it's base text. Those are the same base texts for the King James Version. They then modified those texts as they saw fit, by utilizing the Nestle-Aland texts and Shem Tob. The ISR omits the reference to the Messiah's Deity [Theos/God] from 1 Timothy 3:16, do you believe that Messiah is Elohim? If so, why then do you read and advocate a so-called Bible that is blasphemous?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 So what Scriptures do you read and obey? I don't know of a perfect translation from the original languages to the English, do you?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim It's not myself that condemns people for not using the name that I personally call upon, and it's not myself that is promoting a 'new bible' (IRS) which goes against THE major tenet of the Scriptures which has come down through millennia, found in every other Bible that I personally am aware of, (excluding the J.W's abomination) undoubtedly proclaiming that Elohim was manifest in the flesh 1 Tim 3:16. The Bibles which I read do not omit this! You promote one which does, why?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 So which "Bibles" do you read? Do you not read in Matthew 12 that Messiah identifies Beelzebub", the lord of the dung, as Satan? I don't agree 100% with any translation, do you, if so which one/s? Also, do you advocate "Lord, God and Jesus" as being in the oldest Scriptures available to us? So, "Jesus", was the quoted name of the elohim manifest in the flesh in Yahrushalim in the 1st Century in your "Bibles" that are not blasphemous, is that correct?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim You don't agree 100% with any Bible, but you promote one (IRS) that has vitally important Scripture 'missing', (1 Tim 3:16) again, why? The Bible states that Messiah's name was written in Hebrew, Greek & Latin (John 19:19-20) so, do you dispute that the Messiah's name at the time of His crucifixion was readily transliterated into two languages,other than that of 'Hebrew'? I read in Matthew 1:23 a virgin shall conceive (same as Greek Septuagint) .. see the Hebrew Isaiah 7:14
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 Well, what was His Name at the time of the execution of Messiah?
Can you not answer the simple questions I previously asked you? If you can't answer my simple questions then how is this dialogue going to work? You just keep being an asshole and I'll just block you, or you can straighten up and we'll keep talking. So what will it be? Now, do you agree 100% or not with any version?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim I asked you this question 2 days ago .... The ISR omits the reference to the Messiah's Deity [Theos/God] from 1 Timothy 3:16, do you believe that Messiah is Elohim? If so, why then do you read and advocate a so-called Bible that is blasphemous? Yet you haven't answered, but twisted the question around to what Bibles I read, and what I advocate as being 'oldest scriptures'. I didn't make the video nor promote the IRS bible, but you did! Answer this, and refrain from name calling.
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 I answered your question, and I don't promote the ISR; I promote YHWH's Name. Who is the Rock according to 1Cor. 10:1-4? What's His Name? Read Deut. 32:1-4 and look up the horrible word "LORD" and you'll find It is "YHWH" (H3068) in the Strongs. So, does that answer your question. Now answer my questions, and please tell me when the replacement name of "Jesus" was first used in the translations of the Greek text of Scripture also please? Thanks.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim I asked you this 9 months ago ... Tell me, what Bible do you read? You most likely have a few, but what is the one that comes the closest to an accurate translation in your opinion? This was your reply ... There is no perfect translation as far as I know at this time. I have The Scriptures (ISR) I use when reading and teaching. etc., Yet you claim that you don't promote the ISR? The word LORD is taken from the Greek kyrios, which came from the Hebrew translators of the LXX cont ...
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 The earliest LXX DID NOT have "Kyrios" in place of the Name of YHWH they actually had the Name of YHWH in the paleo Hebrew script. Change is not always good.
I also use the KJV, HOT, LXX, RSV, NAS, Peshitta, Young's Literal and other translations when I study or teach. Please prove what you say or that I'm wrong about "kyrios" not being in the earliest LXX. If you can I'll apologize, if not, then you apologize and admit you are wrong. I'm waiting.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim Papyrus Rylands 458 (the oldest LXX) The manuscript has been used in discussions about the Tetragrammaton, although there are actually blank spaces in the places where some scholars such as C. H. Roberts believe that it contained letters.[3] According to Paul E. Kahle, the Tetragrammaton must have been written in the manuscript where these breaks or blank spaces appear. Blank spaces = Paleo Hebrew letters does it? Is that intellectual enough for you?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@natzrim 1 Corinthians 8:6 ἀλλ' ἡμῖν εἷς Θεὸς ὁ Πατήρ, ἐξ οὗ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἡμεῖς εἰς αὐτόν, καὶ εἷς Κύριος Ἰησοῦς Χριστός, δι' οὗ τὰ πάντα καὶ ἡμεῖς δι' αὐτοῦ. But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. This is New Testament in Greek, is it intellectually 'sound' for you? Or would you prefer Paleo letters which are Phonecian in origin?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 When did Koine Greek have a "J" letter or sound in it? When was the first "J" sounding letter ever written in the Greek language? What about the Phonecian language was there a "J" sound or letter in it? What about the Latin was there a "J" sound in it? So, how would the Name of the Messiah have been pronounced in the 1st Century?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim Again, when Pilate ordered the inscription to be written in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, (John 19:20) two of the said languages didn't have either a 'Y' or a 'Sh' sounding, so they used an equivalent that were in the paramaters of that language = Iesous, Were they wrong to do this? The English language changed or developed over the centuries to replace a 'Y' with a 'J' is that wrong? Does that change the personage of Messiah, does it change His identity?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 The oldest manuscripts have the nomina sacra and not Iesous. So, how can we be sure that the nomina sacra was a name, like iesous, and not a title?
Why should translate a name through a series of languages when all we should do is transliterate it from the original language into our own tongue. Jorge is pronounced "George", but when addressing a Mexican male with this name we say "Hor-hay" b/c that is how he introduced himself. It's a matter of respect.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim We can be sure because the N.T reveals that Pilate had the name of Yehoshua written in two other languages = Greek & Latin = John 19:19-20, which proves the Hebrew name of Messiah was known in those other two languages. Maybe it would be common courtesy to pronounce a name in the home of the language itself such as 'Hor-hay' in Mexico, but Christianity spread to Greek speaking nations, therefore it was courtesy to give to them its Greek transliteration already available.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 It changed His Name, and that's wrong. What if your pay check was written out to a name that did not belong to you? And if your wife was to call you by an old boy friend and tell you that your name isn't important, could you easily accept that?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim If my pay cheque had been written in my name of Yochanan and I lost it, and then it was unearthed 2,000 years later and sent to a far of country where some of my traceable descendants had moved to, and they spoke in the language whereby the 'Y' had hardened to a 'J', then I wouldn't mind at all if they chose to call me Johnathan, why would that bother me? I don't understand your analogy of my wife calling me by a former boyfriend's name? Please explain.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 I will not waste any more of your time or mine. You're blind to the Truth now, perhaps you'll be able to see someday soon. Your reasoning and excuses are childish and ridiculous. YHWH never changes and His Name is the same forever and It is the "only Name" where there is salvation and protection. Use your false pagan names like the Baal worshipers and you'll fall as they did. Read Rev.16:9 and try to understand what it means. I hope you wake up soon.
natzrim 1 month ago
@natzrim What is your problem with the letter 'J' ? There are many countries with different languages that don't use a J letter, some call the Messiah 'Yesu', so they don't have the 'shua' pronunciation to the Herbrew / Aramaic name of Messiah, what about those in your 'language political correctness book'?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 The problem is simple, unless you are someone that doesn't adore and respect the Name of YHWH, If Messiah was called Yahushua (H3091) as Strong's says, and His Name means Yahu saves then why would we desecrate YHWH's Name and make JE saves the meaning of Yahushua? He was a Hebrew and "SUS" means horse in Hebrew, so was Messiah a horse? What's your problem with calling Messiah the same Name He was called in the 1st Century and before? "ONE NAME" not enough?
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim You clearly have little understanding of the etymology of words, and the different phonetics of words transliterated into another language. The ending sound of “ah” which would be a vowel sound is not allowed in Greek, therefore, an “s” was added which is how masculine names always end in Greek, i.e Gaius, Archippus, Tychicus etc., Messiah cannot be a horse, and the only way he could be one, is through your faulty understanding of languages.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 You clearly do not understand YHWH never changes. You do not know the Torah of YHWH therefore you unable to comprehend the Way of YHWH. Why call YHWH by a Greek, Latin, or English name or title that has no connection to the etymology of His Name whatsoever. Even a 2nd grader understands there is no connections between "LORD" and "YHWH" phonetically, or alphabetically. Study to prove what you should believe according to the Word Of YHWH, forget traditions.
natzrim 1 month ago
@natzrim The Bible reveals that 42,000 Ephraimites lost their lives because of their inability to pronounce the Hebrew word 'Shibboleth' from their very own language, saying instead (at the cost of their lives) 'Sibboleth' (see Judges 12:4-6). The Greek language doesn't even contain a 'sh' sounding, I'm sure our learned friend 'MrsQuietBuck' will inform you. How much longer do you believe the Good News would have taken to spread in the Greek speaking nations taking this fact into account?
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 : The problem with the letter J is that it has nothing to do with the Messiah's Name. Satan spends his entire existence trying to mislead people. What can't you see? If you read scripture, it even states that another will come using his own name and him you will follow. And with billions following the J versions...I'm sorry, YHWH is crystal clear on His Name.
MrsQuietBuck 2 months ago
@MrsQuietBuck Another will come in his own name? So Satan has changed his name to Jesus has he? Then he can't be fulfilling Scripture by your own inane reckoning then can he? If Satan comes in the name of Satan, pray tell, who's going to trust in him? You seriously need to look at the Greek word oànoma and realize it has several meanings and is not restricted to one.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 I speak Greek fluently and lived in Greece for many many years. Do You speak Greek fluently? Have you studied hours upon hours upon the Name and all the translations? The answer is in John. 5:43. I stand by YHWH and not transliterated changed names nor church taught Nicene created changes. Thank you ma'am for showing me ignorance to a high level. Even 8eos, is not our Creator's Name, but a term. He specifically tells us to call His Name.
MrsQuietBuck 1 month ago
@MrsQuietBuck Go Sister!! This person is a swine that loves unclean things. We are wasting precious time; I am letting Satan have faithlikeachild777. We've admonished many times and to no avail. He/she has no desire to know YHWH or what YHWH has said; he doesn't care what Messiah said in John chp. 17, or anywhere else for that matter. But he likes the changes men have made to YHWH's Name and His Words; Isaiah 24:5-6 will be his reward for loving the changes.
natzrim 1 month ago
@natzrim Messiah taught us how to pray = 'our Father' and not 'our YHWH' so why do you kick against the pricks? Show me just once, where the four Hebrew letters are found in the N.T. You're letting Satan have me are you? According to your ramblings, he has me already hasn't he, with myself calling (on occasion) the Father by way of the title 'Lord' or God, (see 1 Corinthians 8:5-6) or the name of Jesus ? Pray tell, how are you going to accomplish handing me over to Satan?
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 You already are Satan's; I've given up that you can change your reprobate mind. Tell me what you think Kefa actually said in Acts 2:21 on that day of Shavuot when he quoted Yoel 2:32? Did Kefa say "the Lord" or "YHWH" is the Name to call upon on that day?
natzrim 1 month ago
@natzrim According to the majority of sacred namers, Messiah was condemned for blasphemy of daring to mention the 'ineffable' name, in direct opposition to the Pharasaic tradition of not mentioning it. So, in light of this, I would say that Peter in Acts 2:21 would have used the substitute 'Adonai', otherwise the crowd would have stoned him for blasphemy also.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 They did use the Name of YHWH. Read Acts 9:14, & 26:11. They did not use Adonai when the Name was clearly being called upon. Some of the disciples were stoned for using the Name of YHWH.
Just try to try and understand what all the Scriptures teach about the Name of YHWH. Please rid your self of the blasphemous names and begin to call upon YHWH. You are free to choose what you want to call YHWH, but you need to find out what it means to "qara" on His Name
natzrim 1 month ago
@natzrim Acts 9:14 is the name of Yehoshua not the four letters Yod Hey Waw Hey. The Father's name wasn't clearly being called at all, it's like you want to assume (as do the majority of sacred namers) that they crucified Messiah for the sin of blasphemy (what sacred namers interpret as the Pharasaic stance of uttering the divine name audibly) whilst at the same time everyone else was 'free to do so' without it being blasphemy, and no fear of punishment!
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 Read and quote 1Cor. 12:3 from the Aramaic and then tell us all who Yahushua is if you will according to this verse. If you can't post the Truth about this verse found in the Aramaic Peshitta then I'll do it for your sake and everyone else that is seeing these comments. But I want you to be the one to tell us what it says or stay off this channel, cause you are only arguing to prove what you teach not what the Scriptures teach, but we'll await your reply.
natzrim 1 month ago
@natzrim Acts 26:11 what do you believe Paul meant? Here's a clue for you from the Aramaic Bible in plain English. " And I was torturing them in every Synagogue as I was pressing them to blaspheme the name of Yeshua, and I was filled with great rage against them. I was also going out to other cities to persecute them.” Hope this helps your misunderstanding.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 You don't remember or read my replies do you? YHWH is who Messiah actually is. Read 1Cor.10:1-4 and then Deut. 32:1-4 and try to understand who Messiah actually is so you'll stop trying to prove it's okay to blaspheme His Name with Satan's changes to YHWH's Word.
natzrim 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 Godbless you but i wanted to correct you. Lord just means master. In the ancient times lord was given to monarks and empores. My lord or master is what they called these monarks. Also ya hu wah sounds like ja hov a. We have to just keep the bible as it is which is God words. Also i have one question where you baptised under yahuwah or jesus?
jesussavior1364 1 month ago
@jesussavior1364 Yes and our Lord is our only Master.
in the only hebrew text where Jesus name is mentioned (later by Jews as being the illegitimate son of Mary) is Yesua In greek is Iisu-s syrian Yesu arabic Isa hebrew Yesua S must have been part of the name that most probably was Yes(h)ua why would you say its Yahuwah?
is it bcoz ...i quote from below"YHWH is who Messiah actually is" is he ? there is no difference between God the Father and God the Son?
delagrazia 1 month ago
@delagrazia The difference is no man has seen or heard the Father at anytime, Jn.1:18; 5:37;& Jn. 6:46. Messiah is YHWH (Yah-oo-ah) according to 1 Cor. 10:1-4 and Dewt. 32:1-4. They are not the same being, one is the Father YHWH, and the other is YHWH the Son. The Son was sent here by His Father, as the above Scriptures prove He is the Rock, YHWH, read the verses given above. Please let me know if you can see this too. Thank you.
natzrim 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 How can you keep on with your unlearned remarks? "Yahushua" is what YHWH was called when He was born as a human child into this word by His earthly mother. However, His real identity or proper name is YHWH, pronounced Yah-oo-ah. "Isa. 43:11 “I, I am יהוה, and besides Me there is no saviour." Since no man had ever heard or seen the Father (Jn. 1:18; Jn.6:46) then all those who had heard the Savior heard the Son whose Name is also YHWH.
natzrim 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 He also said "Sacred is Thy Name" and He also said, "I have made your Name known" in Yochanon (JN.) chp. 17. He also said "I have come in My Father's Name". He said to Ephesus in Rev. 2:13, "you hold fast to My Name". In Rev. 3:8, " you have not denied My Name." You do not hold fast to His Name and you blaspheme His Sacred Name with your Greek, Latin, and English replacements. Will Mal. 3:16-18 awaken you, and will your name be in that book?
natzrim 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 Isa 52:5 “And now, what have I here,” declares יהוה, “that My people are taken away for naught? Those who rule over them make them wail,” declares יהוה, “and My Name is despised all day continually.
Isa 52:6 “Therefore My people shall know My Name, in that day, for I am the One who is speaking. See, it is I.”
You have denied, despised, blasphemed, desecrated, and taught lies against YHWH long enough. Rev. 16:9 accurately predicts your future.
natzrim 1 month ago
@natzrim Can you show me in the N.T anywhere that Messiah uttered the pronunciation of the 4 Hebrew letters of YHWH? In-turn, I will show you multiple examples of how Messiah approached the Creator of Heaven and Earth .... as FATHER! I note that you had nothing to say regarding the Ephraimites' inability to pronounce the 'sh' in Shibboath (Judges 12:4-6), don't sacred namers say that Ephraim represents the Gentiles? There lies the answer! The Greeks = no problem uttering Iesous.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 YHWH Messiah could call YHWH the Father, "Abba" as it is for us to do the same as well. But His Name is YHWH, and we are told to call (Qara) upon His Name. You've got to come to terms that the Greek manuscripts are copies and many are several years removed from the original letters. You don't have any answers worth considering for your just another blasphemer that loves pagan ways and names. I don't mean any disrespect, just giving it to you straight.
natzrim 1 month ago
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Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
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@natzrim I don't mean any disrespect, but the language that a person speaks does not 'in itself' signify that person to be 'pagan', rather, the manner or by what means the person worships their false deity, other than the true Almighty. The Father confused the single language into many languages at Babel, so by your inane methodology, does that make the Father in-turn pagan? You use one slant of the word blasphemy and you take it to the extreme. That my friend is dogmatism.
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 "“I am יהוה your Elohim (Ex.20:7)." For I, יהוה your Elohim am a jealous Ěl, (Ex.20:5). Exo 20:7 “You do not bring1 the Name of יהוה your Elohim to naught, for יהוה does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught.
Psa 44:20 If we have forgotten the Name of our Elohim... You have taught against the Word and Name of YHWH and will not repent, so it is you that will fulfill the curse you have brought upon your self due to your sins.
natzrim 1 month ago
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adysaxman77 1 month ago
@natzrim It not you who decides who Satan has or does not have! You do not write in the names in the book of life!
yackyick 1 month ago
@natzrim You do sit high upon YOUR THRONE!
yackyick 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 : Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
I own the Greek New Testament. Do you have the original NT in Greek? I don't. I have the modern. I had many friends who were priests and monks in Greece. Even They will tell you scripture has been infiltrated. But they must teach what they teach
MrsQuietBuck 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 :Cont. To KEEP THEIR JOBS! So they can speak to those who will listen while they risk their souls. My walk with YHWH is NOT for the faint of heart. I would not speak with conviction if I hadn't had the walk I had! Therefore, with my learning in baby steps, in which I too, was ignorant, I am humbled by the fact we all have been lied to!!!!
MrsQuietBuck 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 : You use the Names on your channel...so why are you fighting the YHWH Name?
MrsQuietBuck 1 month ago
@MrsQuietBuck YHWH are four letters that form a part of the name, I'm not dogmatic by trying to enforce on anyone what I believe makes up the vowels that go with the consonants. I certainly don't judge anyone for using the language that their parents taught them, for by doing so I would be asking them to break the 5th Commandment. The Father confused the languages at Babel, so why do you believe that languages that the Father Himself confused, are a 'stench' to His nostrils?
Faithlikeachild777 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777: Sir or Madam, whomever I am addressing here, Please do not put words in my mouth. As the wife of a minister who spends most of his day in studies, Scripture speaks clearly. I shall not waste my time anymore with this debate. I am not trying to force you to believe anything, trying to open your eyes to scripture that you refuse to listen to. It is not me you contend with but scripture itself. Ask and you shall receive. Simple as that.
MrsQuietBuck 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 Do you know what dogmatic means and how it is used in the Scriptures? It's the teachings or thoughts of men, so I'd have to say you're about as dogmatic as anybody I've ever talked to. It's obvious the disciples knew and used the Name of YHWH, but you dogmatically hound those of us that follow Messiah and the disciples trying to get us to relent and see your ideas instead of YHWH's, so yeah, you're dogmatic, and you oppose the teachings of Messiah.
natzrim 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 The Muslims have one they call upon - the false one, that is the one you must be careful not to follow. We are bretherine in Christ.Messiah gave us the name FATHER as in " Our FATHER which art in heaven " we become as his children, do not children call upon their FATHER and we were instructed to call no man father.Does one need to be a linguist to know who his father is , does the Most high not know his own and can he not read the hearts of men?
yackyick 1 month ago
@Faithlikeachild777 In the oldest manuscripts there was no "Ἰησοῦς Χριστός" dear neighbor. So, what do you want people to do about that? Just accept a lie, or a false name? No, I can't do that. Jesus Christ is a pure lie and can not possibly be the name of the Messiah. Check out P46. Shalom.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim Dear neighbour, in the oldest (Greek) manuscripts there was no "יהשוה" either! So what do you want to do about that? Accept a pronunciation that totally is dependant on vowel points, inserted a full 700 - 1,000 years after the Messiah by Masorite Jews? How can you possibly know that your pronunciation is the 'true one' ? What about Origen, do you accept all his other doctrine, or just when it concerns languages that adhere to your understanding?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777 Look to the oldest manuscripts for answers. The manuscripts that have the sacred names are more accurate according to Origen; they should at least have the nomina sacra instead of the terms that were used later to replace them, i.e. theos, kyrios, Iesous, and Christos. There is no need to keep the insults up. Thanks.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim as there wasn't a 'Y' letter in the Greek, they used what was available to them and what befits in that language = Kyrios. Obviously the letter 'J' is part of another alphabet as it developed, it's like saying "show me in the Greek scriptures 'email' is it not?
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@Faithlikeachild777It's not obvious to you that "kyrios" is an addition and a change to YHWH's Word, is it? No, it's not like saying "show me...email" b/c they didn't have email and they did have the Name of YHWH and the Name of the Messiah, and these Names were given in the earliest Septuagint and then later changed to remove the Names of salvation. Your arguments are seriously flawed and without any concrete facts. Please use intellectual arguments and facts in your reply.
natzrim 2 months ago
@natzrim You asked ... and please tell me when the replacement name of "Jesus" was first used in the translations of the Greek text of Scripture also please? Thanks. In which event it is like asking me to show/ prove the word email was extant in the Greek Scriptures, because give or take a few hundred years, both the concept of the letter 'J' and of the word email came about much, much later, than the time that the Scriptural texts were written in the Koine Greek language. Hope this helps.
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
@natzrim So blasphemy is saying the Hebrew name of Messiah in another language? Is that what you are implying? There was a tremendous gap between the writings of Moses (circa 1,400 B.C) and the oldest extant Hebrew manuscripts (Dead Sea Scrolls) circa 250 B.C, over 1,000 years! So how do you know that the letters have been 'unchanging' over that time span? Languages change over time don't they? There is a far lesser time gap between the writings of the N.T and the oldest Greek texts.
Faithlikeachild777 2 months ago
Natzrim... I found this video when you first put it out (I am comment #6 from a yr ago). I had no clue you were under this kind of attack. I will frequent this video more often to assist in speaking truth to those who resist sound doctrine. Have a good sabbath.
Ps 34:3 O magnify YHWH with me, and let us exalt his name together.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
@MinisterQuietBuck Shabbat Shalom Achi, YHWH bless you. I would appreciate the help. If there is ever anything I can do to help you also, just let me know. BTY I like your channel. Thanks again.
natzrim 2 months ago
THANK YOU ACHI FOR SHARING MY BURDEN
natzrim 2 months ago
@spcjanose:
Ex 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
this is absolutely false disinfo. JESUS is called lord of lords, king of kings. yahwehs son is called lord as well as him. not just satan. you are splitting hairs. duet. 10:17 says GOD is LORD OF LORDS. YES YOU SHOULD USE OUR CREATORS NAME, BUT IN INSTANCES YOU CAN SAY LORD. HE KNOWS YOUR HEART. MAL. 3:1.... 1 CO.8:5 THERE ARE MANY GODS AND MANY LORDS... EPH. 4:5 ONE lord,ONE FAITH,ONE BAPTISM... 1 TIM.6:15. JAMES 2:1, . GET REAL...
bigmikey1979 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979 Amen, Yehowshuwa is LORD of Lords and KING of Kings.... YHWH Is just one of God's names... Not the only one...
AchreousD 2 months ago
@AchreousD:
Ex 3:15 And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YHWH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: THIS IS MY NAME FOR EVER, and this is my memorial unto ALL GENERATIONS.
Ps 145:21 My mouth shall speak the praise of YHWH: and let all flesh bless HIS HOLY NAME for ever and ever.
Ps 113:3, Ps 99:3, Deut 28:58, Mic 4:5, 1Ch 16:10, Ez 39:7, Ps 116:13, Pro 18:10
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
@AchreousD Show exactly where the words, Lord, God, and Jesus are used in the oldest manuscripts. Adonay does not mean "LORD" especially since YHWH is what was in the oldest texts of Scripture then Adonay, or Adonai was used to replace His Name. You proved this when you gave the definitions of these two different words that have different meanings in a previous comment. SO you amen something you've already proven to be a lie. You love lies, see your description in 2Thess. chapter 2.
natzrim 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979: J name is false, Jn 5:43, Is 7:14, Ex 3:14-15. The L word is a name for baal, Jer 23:27, Hos 2:13. Yahweh is Latin for Jupiter, not YHWH's name nor found on any scroll, stone. Splitting hairs, Mal 3:6, Pro 24:21? Define troop, Is 65:11, H1408 (G word).
Is 42:8 I am YHWH: THAT IS MY NAME: and my glory will I NOT give to another, NEITHER my praise to graven images.
Ps 124:8 OUR HELP is in THE NAME name of YHWH, who made heaven and earth.
MinisterQuietBuck 2 months ago
@bigmikey1979 You are using a blasphemous translation which is teaching lies. I know this sounds harsh, but Truth is harsh when it shows us we are wrong. The word "LORD" was not ever used to refer to Elohim, i.e., the Father, His Son, or His Spirit, in the original or oldest texts of the Scriptures. We are tested to prove our love for YHWH.
Show me one verse that says "Lord" is YHWH's Name and I'll show thousands that say His Name is YHWH. Try to prove what you say & be objective.
natzrim 2 months ago
Okay, this is getting annoying, not the subject or your error, but the writing back and forth. So, I will make a video response... Hopefully you will allow it to been seen here... Peace unto you and yours...
AchreousD 2 months ago
@AchreousD Good, make a video. Please tell us what Ex. 3:15 says, and other passages like: Gen. 4:26; 13:4; Isa. 43:11, and Psa. 74:18. There are thousands of verses that use YHWH that the masorites vowel pointed out to say Adonay, so it is you that keep the traditions of those that change YHWH's Name, not I. I'm not fooled by lies; I know what YHWH said. So quote Exo. 3:15 and 15:3 on your video and post it now on this page for all to see, or repent. Thanks.
natzrim 2 months ago