wow.. he looks & sounds like nik turner... i thought i would check out some crass after my local pub put a crass burger on there menu and got a sweet visit from one of there members..:) nice 1
While the power/knowledge/control matrices have evolved in ways that were unimaginable when anarcho-punk was at its peak in the early 80s, what has not evolved in any way shape or form is the stories we tell each other about ourselves judging by the comments below. We were having the same conversations (albeit face to face) thirty years ago about punks and hippies and you would have thought by now such tired binary oppositions would have been consigned to the dustbin of cultural history by now.
@pancrack I'd say working class with some middle class values. Not or never have been a "hippie" as I've always worked whereas hippies are known for their laziness, well sometimes. But rather than ask a question you could agree with me surely pumpkin? What I said is basically true.
@MickeyLove01: If I believed in what u said was basically true I could agree with you. But I dont and I dont believe in class either - whatever class - punk and hippy to me were distinctly against such restrictive conventional conservative notions! Tear down the walls and know the real enemy. And question everything. Punk, peace n organic pumpkins
for me class distinction is a remnant of industrialism/imperialism, and its obviously been successful, as many working class folk (am one) seem to do all the fighting to keep their landlord/boss/lord's work force seperated from the rest of society.
fuk the lot, drop out, time for a shift... but isnt it always?
and then, most of the precious working class punx i kno just get pissed, take speed and wallow in their egos and pub kudos
STONERS are known for their laziness who ever they are... any hippies i kno are out working all the time, (dont get work and job confused), like running co-ops, volunteering for various schemes the government wont fund, or corporates wont support, helping support villagers and islanders get up and running with real sustainable developemnt schemes. organic farming, running a commune... but then, what is a hippy? and why are we still going on about class? job or work? boss or freedom?
@earinsound it all depends buddy. you'll always get little circles of folk in each town, or enclaves in the cites that use marijuana and pschedelix really well and they get some good useful scenes together. but in the housing scheme i grew up kids get sold full stength weed and get fukt up.
the last few "hardcore" punk events i was at half were speed freaks flexing muscles and egos, the other half were drug free and rascist. i got fed up and left
@pancrack In other words Crass was educating people about the ACTIVIST SYSTEM while mocking Communist and Socialist extreme changes. What are you? A revolutionary?
I just dont believe in censorship. I want to be as rad as the U.S.A. version of Crass. They were total activists making music to mock the system but the music was the system's satire and that's all I have time for. Crass was made by EMI and they were 100% for activism and Capitalist changes in music business and what people can buy. They changed consumerism at a base level.
Penny's not some GIJoe race action figure. He very much fakes like he's one to interviewers but I wonder why he hides that EMI made it for them. Were just EMI SONY WMG and UMG.
I get the sense that Penny lives in fear of Communists sometimes and what he can or can't say. Look, music is a business. If you don't like it, do it as a hobby. Crass really only made about $10,000-$25,000, I think.
@MickeyLove01 What are you? A male chauvinist who needs everyone to be seriously revolting 24-7 in the ENTERTAINMENT business? Let's see where you end up. You'll end up in prison or dead for starting a real revolution.
@MickeyLove01 Who cares what so called class you come from, it doesn't have to stop you being who you are, its only idiots that cling to class labels that think it matters where you come from, it is what you do, how you do it and where you are going with it that matter , so he changed his name, like so many others, again just a label that really doesn't matter, he and Crass, and many others made my generation stop thinking everything was okay and would get better, made us think and do something
While I lay spreadeagled whipping in self flagellation, the Christmas tree flickering and the torn wrapping forlorn across the cheap laminated floor, I had a thought-Penny Rimbaud is authentic.
A beautiful human being - a rare commodity particularly in the music industry. To stay true to your core beliefs and actively seek to shape your own life takes guts and courage. Like digitalPOO Crass make me smile for all the right reasons too!
@IDKSOMTHIN I certainly feel 'Punk' started with Crass but realistically the evolution from the pistols was essential so I value what they did as well....
i can not absorb or agree on everything he talks about and i'm not a particular fan of Crass-there are/were more intresting bands than Crass at the time,but i've read his books like Shiboleth and i do share his opinions/views on capitalism for instance, which i think are very important, very very inspiring person
tone 2287 you are american and very young. If I am a Worm Im proud of it . You wasnt even born in the 70`s. The whole history of Crass was interesting. But some members went back to there middle class routes.I wont elaborate hear cant be arsed. They did have a point but.......Wake up and smell the Coffee lol!
They are middle class pricks unfortuantley. This is funny 35 years later :) I like there music irrespective ;) As we used to say in England tone2287 "Fuck off and Die "lol! I hope as an American you get the Irony lol! Good nite god bless lol! May Obama save u ;)
what are you going to be doing come the time?....nothing apathy rules...who cares...Penny yer a guiding light ...punks n hippies = same agenda faster chords same music
I always thought there was a dearth of humour with these bands....shame really; the Damned, Motorhead, Larry Wallis, Pink Fairies all saw the funny side.
It's funny... I always thought Crass had a sense of humor, albeit a subtle one that most people didn't catch. The problem is that half the bands associated with Crass Records and an overwhelmingly huge majority of Crass fans are leftist robots who don't think for themselves. I don't think Crass ever was supposed to become a model of who you are supposed to be or how you are supposed to act. Think for yourself was always part of their message, but you know how kids are...
Its good to see Penny after 40 years. Back when I was an art student at Loughton College he was one of my teachers with Janet, David, Phil ,Paul et al. I'm in SF. does anyone know if he will be in the bay area for any reason.
its great to hear penny talk and it is very inspiring, so thanks to whoever is responsible for posting this. It's good to be reminded that anything you want is only a positive action away, it can be easy to forget.Its a shame that so many travellers in the nineties forgot some of these truths as I think we really had something for a while there
This is quite a weird question, but I think my ex once said something once about her uncle having been involved with Crass. (Or I might have dreamed it). Did someone involved with the band die of diabetes because there was no insulin available?
@pancrack It's unlikely.. you are more likely to die from too much insulin, dying from high blood sugar takes a long time... I work with a resident who's blood sugar levels are higher than the meter can read... still alive after many years of sugar abuse :-)
Echo the comments below; these guys are more interesting than I thought. I suppose I was too young to realise it in the 80s. A lot of what he says about the coercion of the British is absolutely right, and really needs to be said.
Crass are sadly omitted form a lot of punk retro films...but to a lot of people punk was sid n nancy, snot n puke and gone by 79 so wtf. The best programme for me was The punk years which is on youtube narrateed by John Robb and in about a dozen parts.
At last ! Great stuff , as always , full marks for the editing , where'd you get those early photos from ? Penny would be proud ......if he was on the internet !
wow.. he looks & sounds like nik turner... i thought i would check out some crass after my local pub put a crass burger on there menu and got a sweet visit from one of there members..:) nice 1
gibsones295sturbo 4 weeks ago
@gibsones295sturbo ha! whats in the Crass burger????
pancrack 4 weeks ago
While the power/knowledge/control matrices have evolved in ways that were unimaginable when anarcho-punk was at its peak in the early 80s, what has not evolved in any way shape or form is the stories we tell each other about ourselves judging by the comments below. We were having the same conversations (albeit face to face) thirty years ago about punks and hippies and you would have thought by now such tired binary oppositions would have been consigned to the dustbin of cultural history by now.
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MickeyLove01 9 months ago
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He's a phony, a middle class twerp called jeremy for fucks sake.
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01 are you genuine working class hippy Mr. Love? or a "name-ist" inverted snob??? :-)
pancrack 1 year ago 4
@pancrack I'd say working class with some middle class values. Not or never have been a "hippie" as I've always worked whereas hippies are known for their laziness, well sometimes. But rather than ask a question you could agree with me surely pumpkin? What I said is basically true.
MickeyLove01 1 year ago
@MickeyLove01: If I believed in what u said was basically true I could agree with you. But I dont and I dont believe in class either - whatever class - punk and hippy to me were distinctly against such restrictive conventional conservative notions! Tear down the walls and know the real enemy. And question everything. Punk, peace n organic pumpkins
pancrack 1 year ago 4
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gnowave 4 months ago
for me class distinction is a remnant of industrialism/imperialism, and its obviously been successful, as many working class folk (am one) seem to do all the fighting to keep their landlord/boss/lord's work force seperated from the rest of society.
fuk the lot, drop out, time for a shift... but isnt it always?
and then, most of the precious working class punx i kno just get pissed, take speed and wallow in their egos and pub kudos
gnowave 4 months ago
STONERS are known for their laziness who ever they are... any hippies i kno are out working all the time, (dont get work and job confused), like running co-ops, volunteering for various schemes the government wont fund, or corporates wont support, helping support villagers and islanders get up and running with real sustainable developemnt schemes. organic farming, running a commune... but then, what is a hippy? and why are we still going on about class? job or work? boss or freedom?
gnowave 4 months ago
@gnowave
are you sure that people who smoke pot are lazy and worthless?
earinsound 2 months ago
@earinsound it all depends buddy. you'll always get little circles of folk in each town, or enclaves in the cites that use marijuana and pschedelix really well and they get some good useful scenes together. but in the housing scheme i grew up kids get sold full stength weed and get fukt up.
the last few "hardcore" punk events i was at half were speed freaks flexing muscles and egos, the other half were drug free and rascist. i got fed up and left
gnowave 2 months ago
@pancrack In other words Crass was educating people about the ACTIVIST SYSTEM while mocking Communist and Socialist extreme changes. What are you? A revolutionary?
mediattackrecords 9 months ago
I just dont believe in censorship. I want to be as rad as the U.S.A. version of Crass. They were total activists making music to mock the system but the music was the system's satire and that's all I have time for. Crass was made by EMI and they were 100% for activism and Capitalist changes in music business and what people can buy. They changed consumerism at a base level.
mediattackrecords 9 months ago
Penny smoked alot of Pot and got the same schizoaffective disorder as me.
mediattackrecords 9 months ago
Penny's not some GIJoe race action figure. He very much fakes like he's one to interviewers but I wonder why he hides that EMI made it for them. Were just EMI SONY WMG and UMG.
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I get the sense that Penny lives in fear of Communists sometimes and what he can or can't say. Look, music is a business. If you don't like it, do it as a hobby. Crass really only made about $10,000-$25,000, I think.
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@MickeyLove01 What are you? A male chauvinist who needs everyone to be seriously revolting 24-7 in the ENTERTAINMENT business? Let's see where you end up. You'll end up in prison or dead for starting a real revolution.
mediattackrecords 9 months ago
@MickeyLove01 Who cares what so called class you come from, it doesn't have to stop you being who you are, its only idiots that cling to class labels that think it matters where you come from, it is what you do, how you do it and where you are going with it that matter , so he changed his name, like so many others, again just a label that really doesn't matter, he and Crass, and many others made my generation stop thinking everything was okay and would get better, made us think and do something
ynotyrrebrac 4 months ago
@ynotyrrebrac Good for you. Stand up for what you believe in.
MickeyLove01 4 months ago
@MickeyLove01 dont be such a sucker
wyrda222 4 months ago
Respond to this video... dunno what he expected out of the clash..so what if joe strummer had a mercedes?
wyrda222 4 months ago
While I lay spreadeagled whipping in self flagellation, the Christmas tree flickering and the torn wrapping forlorn across the cheap laminated floor, I had a thought-Penny Rimbaud is authentic.
MILITARYONIONS 1 year ago
I had the pleasure of meeting Penny and he was a top top bloke and very entertaining
grears81 1 year ago
See Steve Ignorant in No More Propaganda, 77 minute DVD.
sidandzillah 1 year ago
A beautiful human being - a rare commodity particularly in the music industry. To stay true to your core beliefs and actively seek to shape your own life takes guts and courage. Like digitalPOO Crass make me smile for all the right reasons too!
condec65 1 year ago
the old days with crass stencils all over the underground
DEWIDRAGON88 1 year ago
still got a sharp mind, i don't mean despite being old i mean despite all the peer pressure to shut up and consume
GriefTourist 1 year ago
I Think I'd Rather Associate The Start And Success Of "Punk" With Crass And Not The SHIT Pistols Or The CASH. Fuck The Pistols And The Clash.
IDKSOMTHIN 1 year ago
@IDKSOMTHIN I certainly feel 'Punk' started with Crass but realistically the evolution from the pistols was essential so I value what they did as well....
MrSiddeney 1 year ago
i can not absorb or agree on everything he talks about and i'm not a particular fan of Crass-there are/were more intresting bands than Crass at the time,but i've read his books like Shiboleth and i do share his opinions/views on capitalism for instance, which i think are very important, very very inspiring person
TheMotorcityfive 2 years ago
John Lennon junior!
LustForHate 2 years ago
for fucks sake, had my head phones in at the begging, gave me a bloody heart attack haha
great guy
XpunkXanarchistX 2 years ago 2
seems like a great / wise man
scurlcube 2 years ago
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Penny is a SERMONIST, not a punk.
LustForHate 2 years ago
He's a fucking human like the rest of us.
Threaders85 2 years ago
he's a street punk.
bradattax 2 years ago
Essential punk band! Penny is a quality human being. And Crass always made me smile for all the right reasons,still do in fact!
digitalPOO 2 years ago 12
Middle class pricks!
Magicalmike1 2 years ago
@Magicalmike1 YOU MAY CALL THEM BUT ONLY WORMS SPEAK YOUR TONE.
tone2287 2 years ago
tone 2287 you are american and very young. If I am a Worm Im proud of it . You wasnt even born in the 70`s. The whole history of Crass was interesting. But some members went back to there middle class routes.I wont elaborate hear cant be arsed. They did have a point but.......Wake up and smell the Coffee lol!
Magicalmike1 2 years ago
They are middle class pricks unfortuantley. This is funny 35 years later :) I like there music irrespective ;) As we used to say in England tone2287 "Fuck off and Die "lol! I hope as an American you get the Irony lol! Good nite god bless lol! May Obama save u ;)
Magicalmike1 2 years ago
and god bless the queen, mate
tone2287 2 years ago
@Magicalmike1 Stop spreading gossip. It's really sad. Crass were always very coherent. Prove they're hypocrites, or shut up.
Spauracchio1 1 year ago
what are you going to be doing come the time?....nothing apathy rules...who cares...Penny yer a guiding light ...punks n hippies = same agenda faster chords same music
akastuntfish 2 years ago
There's humour and fun in CRASS, it's just that they are an angrier band, they were fighting the good fight. Still are, right?
brain3864513 2 years ago 2
I always thought there was a dearth of humour with these bands....shame really; the Damned, Motorhead, Larry Wallis, Pink Fairies all saw the funny side.
hugobear1 2 years ago
...and i would have to agree... humour to make a serious point...dead kennedys married the two to good effect.
pancrack 2 years ago
or our local (anti) heroes The Anti Nowhere League
hugobear1 2 years ago
but they were a corny joke band with nowt to say..
pancrack 2 years ago 2
@hugobear1
It's funny... I always thought Crass had a sense of humor, albeit a subtle one that most people didn't catch. The problem is that half the bands associated with Crass Records and an overwhelmingly huge majority of Crass fans are leftist robots who don't think for themselves. I don't think Crass ever was supposed to become a model of who you are supposed to be or how you are supposed to act. Think for yourself was always part of their message, but you know how kids are...
freewriter101 1 year ago
Its good to see Penny after 40 years. Back when I was an art student at Loughton College he was one of my teachers with Janet, David, Phil ,Paul et al. I'm in SF. does anyone know if he will be in the bay area for any reason.
jacquelinet101 2 years ago 5
its great to hear penny talk and it is very inspiring, so thanks to whoever is responsible for posting this. It's good to be reminded that anything you want is only a positive action away, it can be easy to forget.Its a shame that so many travellers in the nineties forgot some of these truths as I think we really had something for a while there
onetwohook 2 years ago
thanks for this.
GriefTourist 3 years ago
love the whole documentary. I find it very inspiring... seeing it for the 2nd time
thundermik 3 years ago
This is quite a weird question, but I think my ex once said something once about her uncle having been involved with Crass. (Or I might have dreamed it). Did someone involved with the band die of diabetes because there was no insulin available?
dakaranandayo 3 years ago
not to my knowledge
pancrack 3 years ago
@pancrack It's unlikely.. you are more likely to die from too much insulin, dying from high blood sugar takes a long time... I work with a resident who's blood sugar levels are higher than the meter can read... still alive after many years of sugar abuse :-)
MrSiddeney 1 year ago
Echo the comments below; these guys are more interesting than I thought. I suppose I was too young to realise it in the 80s. A lot of what he says about the coercion of the British is absolutely right, and really needs to be said.
Thanks for posting.
btw where the hell is his grey hair if he's 64
dakaranandayo 3 years ago
under the hairdye, he is a punk right?
Crass are sadly omitted form a lot of punk retro films...but to a lot of people punk was sid n nancy, snot n puke and gone by 79 so wtf. The best programme for me was The punk years which is on youtube narrateed by John Robb and in about a dozen parts.
pancrack 3 years ago
"we'd play at universities mostly...because there security wasn't very good'
hahahah i laughed so hard at that. penny seems cool as hell. thanks alot for posting this!!
mommyimadeapoopy 3 years ago 3
Amazing Documentary, really unveiled their personality.
pdxpunk85 3 years ago 3
great work, thanks alot for this.
suzukign1255 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading.
Very inspiring and nice editing
paulclargo 3 years ago
great stuff man.
top dollar nice.
markusa 3 years ago
Thanks! Most complete interview i've seen yet and the crass snippets are great.
nempozpag 3 years ago 2
cheeeers! worth doing i think , quite a document huh!
pancrack 3 years ago
At last ! Great stuff , as always , full marks for the editing , where'd you get those early photos from ? Penny would be proud ......if he was on the internet !
More relevant than ever .....sadly
martin65 3 years ago 2
cheers - Penny has seen it and said it was "fkn excellent!" gosh!
pancrack 3 years ago