I think you should be saying Julia Gillard doesn't believe in "a god" rather than "believe in god" as there are a number of gods that humans believe in.
France and Belgium have found this out where what they're doing is essentially what the religious conservatives in other countries like the US do which is ram their ideals down everyones throats and forget that whilst yes the church and state are separate, the people have the right to believe or not too believe that is a personal choice and something the state should not interfere with
France and Belgium have found this out where what they're doing is essentially what the religious conservatives in other countries like the US do which is ram their ideals down everyones throats and forget that whilst yes the church and state are separate, the people have the right to believe or not too believe that is a personal choice and something the state should not interfere with
France and Belgium have found this out where what they're doing is essentially what the religious conservatives in other countries like the US do which is ram their ideals down everyones throats and forget that whilst yes the church and state are separate, the people have the right to believe or not too believe that is a personal choice and something the state should not interfere with
France and Belgium have found this out where what they're doing is essentially what the religious conservatives in other countries like the US do which is ram their ideals down everyones throats and forget that whilst yes the church and state are separate, the people have the right to believe or not too believe that is a personal choice and something the state should not interfere with
@brono25 You´re funny. Do you demand people to back up "claims" about not believing in everything there´s no evidence for existing? Like that they should explain why they don´t believe in St:a Claus and unicorns? And do you back up why you don´t believe in all thousands of gods you probably don´t believe in?
@katnils Umm, if you make a positive claim about something then the burden of proof is on you. If you claim Santa isn't real, than if anyone cared, you'd have to prove it. Its how it works. Just read the post I was replying to.
Whats funny is you think I'am a theist, I'am an atheist who cant stand weak arguments on my side.
and:
"God doesnt exist. If you dont agree, prove that god exist." is an awful/flawed argument.
@brono25 how about, "There is no reason to think god exists." is that better? How about someone who makes the claim "god does exist." what do they say to back that up? or someone who claims that everything in the bible is true, or any other religious text. or someone who claims that jesus loves them, how do they back that up?
Iran is NOT a secular country. Iran has a state sponsored religion. This lack of secularism has definitely hurt that country. Australia, on the other hand, does not have a state sponsored religion and I would say that has helped it very much.
@JohnfromPerth No need to be rude. The laws of Australia are based on Christian values. Try:
You shall not steal.
You shall not commit murder.
You shall not bear false witness.
Six days to work and one to rest.
It's very simple. The people who founded this country where Christian and the society they made reflects that. Iran is an example of a country based on non-Christian beliefs.
@jwheat65 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."(Leviticus 20:13 NAB). Seems pretty straight forward to me.
I though Christians followed both the New and Old Testament, yet you seem not to adhere to it or you seem to not be willing to admit that you do. Very strange.
@jwheat65 Well done, you have again used the 'out of context' sham of an argument so to keep your ridiculous beliefs afloat.
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)"
How about that? Is that out of context? Because to me, it seems very obvious that God demands the death of any perpetrators of adultery. Leviticus 17-20 seem to be a broad list of laws that have no context. Very miscellaneous.
@Mad1093 Just please stop. Try to educate yourself by reading what you're quoting and stop posting misinformed rubbish for the world to see before you embarrass yourself any further.
Quoting out of context is not recognised as a smart thing to do in any sphere.
@jwheat65 Please, I beg you, inform me on how this was out of context. Please explain why The Bible does not say that homosexuals or adulterers should be punished with death.
@Mad1093 Lev 18 & 20 are about fertility rites and sexual rituals performed in Egypt and Canaan as part of their heathen worship. It is not refering to homosexuality in the modern sense.
God does not say that homosexuality is wrong, BUT also does not say that it is ok.
He speaks about marrage. "Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband." 1 Corinthians 7:1-2
@jwheat65 But God is warning His people of these sexual acts that are performed in Egypt and Canaan, telling His people not to do them and then stating the punishment for them in Lev 20. Is He not clearly stating that these acts are sins to His people and then telling the punishment (like death for adultery)?
If He was not referring to modern time homosexuality, then want kind of homosexuality and why is it so severe that the punishment is death?
@Mad1093 If you have this many questions and are genuinely interested in finding out what the Bible has to say, you should get a good study bible and/or seek out a Bible based church and speak to the pastor.
The acts described were performed as part of worship of a false god. God gets very angry when false gods are involved.
@jwheat65 But Gods constant reiteration of his jealousy would make outlawing these acts so unnecessary if they were for worshiping a false God. It isn't stated that these are unlawful because they can be done in worship of another God, they are just outlawed. The isn't a link.
Julia Gillard is athiest: okay. Julia Gillard is a woman: okay. Julia Gillard swings both ways with her flaps in the wind: okay. Julia Gillard pulls funny faces when trying to argue in the House of Reps: Australia Says "NO!"
"the financial system expanded rapidly before collapsing entirely in a sweeping financial crisis. Iceland had to obtain emergency funding from the International Monetary Fund and a range of European countries in November 2008."
"...Landsbanki, Kaupþing Bank and Glitnir went into administration in early October 2008. The Althing granted the Icelandic Financial Supervisory Authority sweeping powers over banks as its financial system tottered and its currency plunged"
@JohnfromPerth In case you didnt know but religion is belief and im sure you believe in something even believing in nothing is a religion. It's a choice we all make.
This is the guy who wants to get rid of Muslims and those Roman Catholics that would like to see us all Roman Catholics. Yet they have the Australian Flag right behind them, yet have no idea what the Flag means or the Starts. The Southern Cross. The stars of David and the lineage down to Jesus Christ and the King of David.
I have heard from a few sources now that Julia Gillard is gay/bi & that the "first bloke" is not her current partner, but there as a smoke screen. I personally don't care if she is gay/bi but if it is true ... then I don't like that she is lying to us all about it. So maybe we really haven't seen the 'Real Julia' yet!
as you can notice most people being put in to power ,by powerful people are gay and against religion ,lots of judges high priests and congressmen and even now supreme court judges and also senators ,the evil take care of each other soon their NWO will be complete and everyone in the world will be made to suffer ,these people will lie cheat and steal at every opportunity until they acquire the power they seek .
the funny thing is, Christian morals have changed so much over the last 2000 or so years they arent relevant. there's a reason secular government (meaning laws based on logic instead of religious doctrine) has become the norm. hell, most of the sects of Christianity now are branched from protestantism, which came to be because the roman catholic church was trying to control government. to make a decision for your vote based on someone's religious preferences is stupid and backwards.
@whostoleaceius vote based on the polices of the party, because as we've just seen with krudd being ousted, you're not voting in a prime minister, you're voting in a party.
and if i hear my grandmother go on about the boat people one more time i'm gonna lose it. 1% of the problem.
Good grief!! You don't think it matters that Gillard is an athiest? Australia is a country built and based on Christian beliefs, morals and standards. An athiest in a position of power over policies and laws in this country is just plain scary! She will use her influence to allow "tollerance" of other religions such as islam to get a hold in Australia and destroy the country our fathers and grandfathers knew, fought for and loved. Shame. It does matter. We didn't vote her in. VOTE HER OUT!!!
Australia is *not* a secular country. Our laws, history, values, standards and yes the morals reflected by those are based on the Christian beliefs and Values of the founders of this great country.
Aren't you glad they are?
Would you like to live in Iran?
The degrading of these values and standards by governments, do-gooders, the apathetic and the ill-informed is dangerous and very concerning to the Australians who love this country the way it is.
@jwheat65 Secularism means that a country's government is neutral to all religions. Australian does not have a state sponsored religion. Iran, on the other hand, does (Islam).
Christianities 'morals' are twisted, brutal and down right idiotic. Do you honestly agree with the morals of the Bible and do you really think they are and continue to be values that Australia is built upon? Do you think we should kill homosexuals? Should we still hunt for witches? Please answer truthfully.
@Mad1093 The "secular" state of Australia is a result of the degrading of the values and standards by governments and apathetic people as I have already pointed out.
You are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity and the Bible's Old Testament laws with the New Testament.
Atheism in government and particularly a prime minister who is openly athiest is dangerous and another "Move backwards" for Australia.
@jwheat65 Well done, you have successfully dodged my question. I do not know what branch of Christianity you believe in (Catholicism, Orthodox etc) but the foundation of Christian beliefs lie within the Old and New Testament. You can't just reject the teachings of the Old Testament because you do not like them but still call yourself a believer. You seem to want people to abide to morals that even you will not admit to believing in.
@Mad1093 I don't think i dodged anything. I'm a Christian but that's probably not completely relevant here. Perhaps you should ask your questions in another forum; and good on you, that's how we learn. :-) No matter what you believe you need to think about the future of this country. If you have no God, you have no accountability. Nothing matters. There are no consequenses. I don't want to live in a society that believes that. Do you? VOTE GILLARD OUT!
@jwheat65 Of course it is relevant. Your stating that because JG is an atheist and does not adhere to Christian "morals", she will ruin the country. Yet you still dodge the question on whether you even adhere to those "morals" that you peddle.
Also, of course there are consequences. But within this life time. It almost seems that you are only a believer in fear of eternal damnation. You should really educate yourself further on what Atheism is instead of coming up with false assumptions.
@jwheat65 so what you are basically saying is "look how good religiously founded australia is, so much better than those religiously founded nations like Iran"
@jwheat65 Secondly, Australia *IS* secular (the power of secularism is much weaker in our constitution than that of the USA however) and I am not an expert on this, however section 116 of our constitution specifically states that the government is NOT allowed to act in a way that "imposes any religious observance", neither can they pass any law to establish a state religion. It would be ILLEGAL for Australia to be anything other than secular. EPIC FAIL
@jwheat65 You obviously are a secular country now, if you weren't before.
I'm glad that Australia, and my own country, are not based on "Christian values'. I'm not into the whole treat women like objects, stone non-christians, murder disobedient children type of society.
@jwheat65 the laws are based on basic Judeo-Christian values but the Constitution implies secularism when it mentions that no state religion may be imposed on the people of Australia
@jwheat65 Really, because I have never seen Australians cut off their hands if they sin with them, or slaughter neigboring countries killing all women and children except for the virgin girls, or executing people for eating shellfish. Funny that you asked if people would like to live like Iran. Of course they don't want a theocracy. I am so glad that you are wrong. I am so glad that Australians are more moral than the biblical god.
@jwheat65 Yes. Let's create an "other" an "enemy", someone to hate. How many Iranian people do you know? Have you conducted interviews with a broad spectrum of the Iranian community to arrive at your "Iran is a terrible country" opinion. And the degrading of values! What a ridiculous statement to make. You're right, and they're wrong, right? I don't feel I need a "man" (how absurd) in the sky watching over me to be a good person, nor an enemy upon which to project my fear, for my god is love.
@jwheat65 - Australia needs to become a fiercely secular society. Religious dellusions and controls have no place in a modern society. If you have some faith - keep it in your church or in your home.
@IncognitoShhh I'll give an example, France and Belgium have this problem where like the religious conservatives in say the US they're ramming their ideals down everyones throats, Secularism is merely the separation of church and state, it has nothing to do with personal beliefs, Constitutionally Australians have the right to hold/not hold any religious beliefs
@irishgodfatherchris - all humans have the right to choose. and those who educate themselves lean towards an enlightened view of the world. i personally am a secular humanist. Separation is not enough. If people wish to have supernatural "beliefs" so be it. But not in schools, and not discussed in the mainstream media like it's real. I repeat my original comment - keep it in your home or in your church. no-one else should be forced to respect these "beliefs"
@IncognitoShhh exactly my point was is that countries like France and Belgium are so secular that they don't respect their people's inalienable right to a freedom of belief.
@jwheat65 Yes I'm glad our society is based on Chritians values etc.. but is the compromise we have to believe in a god we can't see, have no scientific facts it actually exists and is actually also declared a muslim in Islam. Why not have a society based on intelligent design rather that a pre medievil, bronze age myth. Atheist's are all for morals and fundermentals. Just not the hocus-pocus and extremisim of religion.
@jwheat65 Oh wow. Do you seriously think we are based on christian beliefs? Why is it legal to go to work on Sunday? Why is slavery illegal here? Why don't we kill people who disrespect their parents? You are seriously deluded if you think we are a christian nation.
@Moppy1988 Yes I do and no I'm not. God loves you! Read a bible and try to understand it before you start critising and making yourself look like an idiot. :-)
Of course Atheists have killed people but not in the name of Atheism.
Christians, Muslims and Jews have killed millions over the course of human history for their religion. All killing each other because God told them it was a good idea.
@Mad1093 Maybe so but I just get sick of the argument that everyone else is bad but hey, we`re OK. "Christian", Atheist, Jew. No one is any better than anybody else. The human race is a waste of good air.
@1WhoSeeks Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things. But our beliefs are the motives behind that and I hate to see some peoples beliefs so grounded in superstition and bigotry, who also are extremely devout and can never be persuaded otherwise.
Yes, humankind is fucked up but it also very entertaining and interesting. So lets all sit back and enjoy the show until we disappear back into non-existence.
Having education on the Bible and being able to quote bible passages, gives someone their own right to choose if they believe what's written in it or not.
Graham you would be better talking about Christpher Pyne.
0:20-0:25..... exactly who is saying not to vote for gillard because she doesn't believe in god? i've not heard one espousal to this effect. all i've heard so far on this area of things is that people who identify themselves as religious that have been asked in the street, say the opposite. the reality is, she's a fuckin labour candidate you douche..christians are mostly told by the church to vote liberal regardless, as the policy structure suits their right wing agenda. this video is retarded.
@squiggz90 ~ We don't have a bill of rights and whether she is an atheist or not, swearing on the bible is just a formality of respect for the Australian constitution and its citizens; not for religion not for "god". More on topic, we live in a secular society not a religious state. Also we don't really vote in a leader, we vote in a party; they vote in the leader to represent them so they can function and properly govern the country, regardless of what belief system the leader pertains to.
Actually we go on values and ethics handed down to us by good parents with a good background in religion. Which means telling the truth and honesty. We still have all the good values from a bible, such as giving to others and looking after those less off than ourselves.
We still respect the bible as a means for truthfullness.
If children are nurtured with love and a sense of their true selves from good parents they have carried all these precious values.
people are always painting a picture of religious Australians as being intimidated by a female athiest, "oooh what a travesty to my middle class church going redneck family!"
grow up, we are not all as youd like us to be, in fact for most this will not affect our vote.
your theological opinion is not important in politics nor your gender.
thank's to media shaping meaning and our perceptions, the word redneck is no longer only referring to those who 'work out in the sun'. The common understanding of the word 'redneck' used in this context refers to the stereotype of western american, church going racists an homophobics. I think you understand what I mean and your nitpicking is entirely trivial.
huh? make up her own mind about what? whether or not the bible is true? Why didnt she have to learn as much abt Hinduism, Islam, or Buddhism and then 'make up her own mind' on those?
I was commenting on how absurd it is that people would NOT prefer someone who didnt have a religious bias.
And while 'many' atheists havnt been christened or have gone to church (oh, what a fright), most have been. Religious indoctrination for kids is still extremely prevalent.
Don't you see the problem with the correlation between what people 'believe' with what their parents 'believe'? It's QUITE peculiar if you ask me. And don't give me 'the bible can be interpreted in many ways'. The teachings of different religions have conflicts that make it impossible for all to be right.
TONS of people are still being 'Christened'/baptised. I don't even know what your point is there.
gosh, I'm sometimes embarrassed to be part of a species of such weakminded people
i don't get the point of the history lesson. Moving on though, I gather youre the type of person who looks to bible for moral inspiration, focusing on the parts you agree with in the 1st place, and ignoring the rest (human/animal sacrifice, not eating shellfish, killing unruly children).
That's called having ur OWN morals. How could you possibly give credit to the bible for telling you to be kind to others?Youre kind to others because youre a social animal with compassion and empathy
I don't believe that you can really believe there is a god by just reading the bible, You have to experience it, from inside. To have visions of a more powerful energy source. We are all different from one another. Each one should be respected for how they feel inside and their beliefs.
Julia works more on her left side the intelligent side. I work more on my right and my middle eye. Very much like Hindu and Egyptian and Celtic.
yea, I totally agree that reading the bible doesnt make someone believe there is a god. I think there's a lot more to it (fear of dying, fear of the unknown, wanting so badly to know how the universe is here that one is willing to make something up and convince him/her self that it's true, wanting to live forever in paradise, wanting to appease family and society by accepting what they are told to believe).
I feel bad for you if you think that having visions of a 'more powerful energy source' (w/e that means) is reason to believe there is a god. Are you even remotely familiar with what our minds are capable of doing? I'm sure you dreamt last night...were the visions of (enter dream here) your idea of reality?
People can 'see' things that are not really there.
People all over the world 'feel' strongly that their religion is the right one. They can't all be right, but can all be wrong.
@squiggz90 What? Do you mean Julia Gillard? She didn't swear on the bible. She took an affirmation oath. And there is no Bill of Rights in Australia. That's American.
As you said, why didn't they learn about Hinduism, Islam, or Buddhism that is the reason i left a religion up to my own children to decide.
One of my son's tends to like Buddhism teachings, although he's not a Buddhist.
I myself like Hinduism, Buddism and Pagan. Not much difference between them really. Or American indian, or dreamtime. If we want to learn about other religions we can. We have our own choices.
2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
How many times do I have to tell you people! Must I resort to SHOUTING? WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT, I repeat - do not (now I'm wispering) elect the PRIME MINISTER!!!! (back to wispering) the lower house (the House of representatives) elects the PM, you stupid child like idiots. Yes yes yes, of course, of course, of course that depends on the Party or Coalition of Parties who COMMAND a simple majority of votes in that place. This ends lesson 1.
Lesson 2. Now it follows that the Party or Coalition of 2 or more Parties, with a simple majority of votes (and some disipline to keep the votes united) in the house of R. decides who will be their Fuhrer. This always happens before an election. But that mob can change their Fuhrer at any time. The Fuhrer then becomes the Prime Minister. Now, we the People need to be governed, yes? Here ends lesson 2 of 3 lesons.
Why elect a PARTY? Well, we need to avoid electing "single issue" candidates. Government can not be achieved by a mob of single issue people unless they unite. That what your local M.P. is. A single issue (your area) . Give the Shooters Party FREE GUNS & they are like Peg-Leg the Pirate - without a peg. They fall over, & maybe the gun goes off. They can only think DEEPLY about gun issues. That's why we have PARTIES. They tap the talents of the many to find the devil in the details of new laws.
PS: And remember, the Prime Minister is not accountable to you mongels, you idiots THE PEOPLE. You have no iBLOODY dea about anything. YOU are just self interested individual PIGS. Or MORONS concerned about nothing but stupid FASHION and GOSSIP. No, the P.M. is accountable only to the PARLIAMENT so YOU SHUT UP A YOUR MOUTH.
lol it's good she is an atheist, it means she won't be wasting time trying to convince us god is somehow a key part of Australian politics and fixing the problems this country faces..
I feel more comforted to know she doesn't believe in God. Without God, she can actually focus on the real things happening in our country, and not judge them based on a centuries old book.
Is not that she is an atheist thats the problem. I want our PM to have pollicies that are based with chrisitian values. Thats important to me plus her being in the labour party doesnt help.
garagecrap is so right...why should people who just want to be human and have human wants and needs be categotised by such a religious term,its just societies stereotypical need to seperate people into groups for social or political agenda's,unfortunely majorities and minorities have more power than sensible humans...tbh athiests are sick of all the shit that religious factions bring to the world,funny part is if there is a god i'm sure god would feel the same way...lol.
WTF is Atheist anyway?! Just because some people don't believe, they have to be branded with some name? How about just a "HUMAN" huh? Not fucking good enough?
God is the one whom raises up and brings down.Julia Gillard being in the top job of a government not of God will make no difference.World events are preordained and are continually manipulated and adjusted by God.So that all that is written will come to pass as it is written,If one believes it or not.
I hold her in even higher regard because she's admitted to that. Who gives a fuck what she believes in - so long as she does the right thing. There's no god anyway, so why bother wasting your time believing in a myth? Put your energies into something that matters!
I am so proud of our new Prime Minister Julia Gillard. She certainly has balls to come out and say she is an atheist on public television. I hope she follows on with Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau who reckons that police had no business in people's bedroom and was forthcoming with the bill for Gay rights in the 60's.
What does one do Graham when one views all PMs as people who serve financial agendas and not the people? She’s going to push for a carbon tax among other things; most of us know that’s all a pack of lies, the religious and sexual gender thing means nothing to me, it’s the pushing taxes on people for fictitious reasons, that’s criminal activity in my book.
least she has a good head on her shoulders...and shes not blinded by some "higher being" that actually doesnt exist...means she will most likely make appropriate decisions..and she wont be under the pump from a jealous non existant god who is spiteful and wants to kill everyone all the time...i mean come on can you seriously beleive that shit? life is what you make it, and being good to your fellow human being is all you should really take into life morally!
I'm glad she's been honest and admitted to being an Atheist, but i'm not sure if it's the best decision for votes, there is a large population of religious people who will be affected in their vote.
I believe in "a" god or higher power, but not in christianity, or any specific religion.
I'm dissapointed that she's said that there should not be gay marriage. I'm surprised by that. (ps; i'm not gay).
Gay Aussies are your friends ,neighbours,relatives,shop keepers, solicitors, doctors, garbage collectors,nurses,librarians, teachers, police, ambo;s, and you probably never know it, unless they let you.
Why? Please explain WHY/
Australia is the best country..lets keep it ours.
I am enjoying Gillards publicity...lets see if she can look after our needs and rights to stay an AUSSIE Culture. Oi, Oi ,Oi
According to christians no matter how much a good person you maybe if you don't believe in god in a christians eyes you aren't a good person, moral etc.
I thinks its a good thing since an athiest will treat everybody else the same as they would anybody else.
She isn't a good person, she stabbed Krudd in the back via an insidious party revolt against him . Hardly morally virtuous is she? Rudd's policies were co-created with her.
Furthermore, self adulating atheists are usually cold hearted socialists with no substance and display the usual hatred of the human race.
I'm glad a Female Athiest can be PM. However nothing in this world can convince me to put Senator Steve Conroy anything but LAST on my ballot paper when I get it. (I'm in Melbourne, so I will literally get Conroy on my ballot paper.)
So Julia, Kick out Conroy, and you get my vote. Don't, and...
Oh who am I kidding, I'm not voting for Abbott without first getting a lobotomy.
i think Gillard is gay too, she looks like a lesbo, cmon look at her, shes gotta be gay.
she looks like the red head off sex in the city who is gay.
3Slim3Shady3 5 months ago
Interesting comparison . Iceland has an openly gay Prime Minister and Australia has a closet gay Prime Minister.
TheGladeGirl 7 months ago
I think you should be saying Julia Gillard doesn't believe in "a god" rather than "believe in god" as there are a number of gods that humans believe in.
killrazer1 9 months ago
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France and Belgium have found this out where what they're doing is essentially what the religious conservatives in other countries like the US do which is ram their ideals down everyones throats and forget that whilst yes the church and state are separate, the people have the right to believe or not too believe that is a personal choice and something the state should not interfere with
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
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irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
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irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
France and Belgium have found this out where what they're doing is essentially what the religious conservatives in other countries like the US do which is ram their ideals down everyones throats and forget that whilst yes the church and state are separate, the people have the right to believe or not too believe that is a personal choice and something the state should not interfere with
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
erm.... this guy actually has friends ..... that arnt imaginary ? ..... lolol
Braddles5000 10 months ago
I don't care what religion Juilia Guillard has what I care about is that Juilia is a homophobic bitch who needs to treat everyone as an equal.
Bobster930 10 months ago
Why is there a Gay Match Maker ad on your video???
LanceMurtagh 11 months ago
God doesnt exist.
If you dont agree, prove that god exist.
NO SCIENTIFIC evidence, just plain waste of time.
Artharrex123 1 year ago
@Artharrex123 "God does not exist" is a claim. Who ever makes the claim has to back to up. Thats how it works.
brono25 10 months ago
@brono25 You´re funny. Do you demand people to back up "claims" about not believing in everything there´s no evidence for existing? Like that they should explain why they don´t believe in St:a Claus and unicorns? And do you back up why you don´t believe in all thousands of gods you probably don´t believe in?
"That´s how it works."
You are very funny.
katnils 7 months ago
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@katnils Umm, if you make a positive claim about something then the burden of proof is on you. If you claim Santa isn't real, than if anyone cared, you'd have to prove it. Its how it works. Just read the post I was replying to.
Whats funny is you think I'am a theist, I'am an atheist who cant stand weak arguments on my side.
and:
"God doesnt exist. If you dont agree, prove that god exist." is an awful/flawed argument.
brono25 7 months ago
@brono25 how about, "There is no reason to think god exists." is that better? How about someone who makes the claim "god does exist." what do they say to back that up? or someone who claims that everything in the bible is true, or any other religious text. or someone who claims that jesus loves them, how do they back that up?
thesearewarningsigns 1 month ago
@thesearewarningsigns Yes thats better. They cant back it up.
brono25 1 month ago
hell no if it was me the people was right ok....FUCK iceland thats another topic....
Men has to rule ok, not being rasict but its truth
ballhanging 1 year ago
@ballhanging sorry just can't let this one go, do you believe that men and women are from different races
binkygong 1 year ago
@binkygong Are you joking or just plain stupid
Laceytube1 11 months ago
@ballhanging Are you joking or are you actually that stupid?
Bobster930 10 months ago
Why are people using Iran as an example?
Iran is NOT a secular country. Iran has a state sponsored religion. This lack of secularism has definitely hurt that country. Australia, on the other hand, does not have a state sponsored religion and I would say that has helped it very much.
Mad1093 1 year ago
I heard this from an inside source a few years back. Apparently, she`s not the only one.
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
who cares if shes atheist
jayok99 1 year ago
the PM being an atheist is the least of our worries lmao
ReallyShitTV 1 year ago
@JohnfromPerth No need to be rude. The laws of Australia are based on Christian values. Try:
You shall not steal.
You shall not commit murder.
You shall not bear false witness.
Six days to work and one to rest.
It's very simple. The people who founded this country where Christian and the society they made reflects that. Iran is an example of a country based on non-Christian beliefs.
It is a very simple concept. Please don't swear.
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 You forgot some other Christian values, such as:
Stoning disobedient children.
Killing people who commit adultery.
Killing homosexuals.
Killing witches.
Killing non-believers.
Maybe you should read the rest of the Bible.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 Good grief, again!
You are taking parts of the Old Testament out of context. :-)
Jesus says that he is the way, and believers (Christians) should follow his teachings.
You really are doing youself a disservice to not read the Bible, or to actively fight against God who loves you and only wants the best for you.
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."(Leviticus 20:13 NAB). Seems pretty straight forward to me.
I though Christians followed both the New and Old Testament, yet you seem not to adhere to it or you seem to not be willing to admit that you do. Very strange.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 You seem to think you know a lot about what other people believe. Hmmm.
Again you are quoting the Bible out of context.
Leviticus chapters 18 and 20 are written about (and warning against) Egyption and Canaan heathen temple prostitution.
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Well done, you have again used the 'out of context' sham of an argument so to keep your ridiculous beliefs afloat.
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)"
How about that? Is that out of context? Because to me, it seems very obvious that God demands the death of any perpetrators of adultery. Leviticus 17-20 seem to be a broad list of laws that have no context. Very miscellaneous.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 Just please stop. Try to educate yourself by reading what you're quoting and stop posting misinformed rubbish for the world to see before you embarrass yourself any further.
Quoting out of context is not recognised as a smart thing to do in any sphere.
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Please, I beg you, inform me on how this was out of context. Please explain why The Bible does not say that homosexuals or adulterers should be punished with death.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 Lev 18 & 20 are about fertility rites and sexual rituals performed in Egypt and Canaan as part of their heathen worship. It is not refering to homosexuality in the modern sense.
God does not say that homosexuality is wrong, BUT also does not say that it is ok.
He speaks about marrage. "Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband." 1 Corinthians 7:1-2
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 But God is warning His people of these sexual acts that are performed in Egypt and Canaan, telling His people not to do them and then stating the punishment for them in Lev 20. Is He not clearly stating that these acts are sins to His people and then telling the punishment (like death for adultery)?
If He was not referring to modern time homosexuality, then want kind of homosexuality and why is it so severe that the punishment is death?
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 If you have this many questions and are genuinely interested in finding out what the Bible has to say, you should get a good study bible and/or seek out a Bible based church and speak to the pastor.
The acts described were performed as part of worship of a false god. God gets very angry when false gods are involved.
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 But Gods constant reiteration of his jealousy would make outlawing these acts so unnecessary if they were for worshiping a false God. It isn't stated that these are unlawful because they can be done in worship of another God, they are just outlawed. The isn't a link.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@jwheat65 The slaughter of aboriginal Australians is in direct contradiction to 3 of your 4 points. We were not founded on 'Christian values'.
If you wander over to your library, you may be lucky to find between Harry Potter and Narnia a book on Australian history.
All the best.
astudyofeverything 1 year ago
It is all about not being able to trust what she says...she is just a liar.
TheGladeGirl 1 year ago
Julia Gillard is athiest: okay. Julia Gillard is a woman: okay. Julia Gillard swings both ways with her flaps in the wind: okay. Julia Gillard pulls funny faces when trying to argue in the House of Reps: Australia Says "NO!"
lloydgar01 1 year ago
@JohnfromPerth but einstein was jewish/agnostic and he was pretty smart if you ask me.
lloydgar01 1 year ago
Hmmm. ICELAND.
"the financial system expanded rapidly before collapsing entirely in a sweeping financial crisis. Iceland had to obtain emergency funding from the International Monetary Fund and a range of European countries in November 2008."
"...Landsbanki, Kaupþing Bank and Glitnir went into administration in early October 2008. The Althing granted the Icelandic Financial Supervisory Authority sweeping powers over banks as its financial system tottered and its currency plunged"
ahay321 1 year ago
@JohnfromPerth In case you didnt know but religion is belief and im sure you believe in something even believing in nothing is a religion. It's a choice we all make.
GreenLikeEnvy 1 year ago
This is the guy who wants to get rid of Muslims and those Roman Catholics that would like to see us all Roman Catholics. Yet they have the Australian Flag right behind them, yet have no idea what the Flag means or the Starts. The Southern Cross. The stars of David and the lineage down to Jesus Christ and the King of David.
chavrons1 1 year ago
I have heard from a few sources now that Julia Gillard is gay/bi & that the "first bloke" is not her current partner, but there as a smoke screen. I personally don't care if she is gay/bi but if it is true ... then I don't like that she is lying to us all about it. So maybe we really haven't seen the 'Real Julia' yet!
TheGladeGirl 1 year ago
@TheGladeGirl i know, but really who cares. we voted in a priminister to be open about politics, not their personal life.
lloydgar01 1 year ago
as you can notice most people being put in to power ,by powerful people are gay and against religion ,lots of judges high priests and congressmen and even now supreme court judges and also senators ,the evil take care of each other soon their NWO will be complete and everyone in the world will be made to suffer ,these people will lie cheat and steal at every opportunity until they acquire the power they seek .
poisonplumbs 1 year ago
Looks like she's won.
dougyoolikeme 1 year ago
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Religion has no place in politics
Defcom96 1 year ago
bahahahah well at least shes honest.
msmellybuu 1 year ago
Yep, Labour, socialism, athiesm, it's all bad. For goodness sake vote this party out before they can do any more damage.
jwheat65 1 year ago
the funny thing is, Christian morals have changed so much over the last 2000 or so years they arent relevant. there's a reason secular government (meaning laws based on logic instead of religious doctrine) has become the norm. hell, most of the sects of Christianity now are branched from protestantism, which came to be because the roman catholic church was trying to control government. to make a decision for your vote based on someone's religious preferences is stupid and backwards.
whostoleaceius 1 year ago
@whostoleaceius vote based on the polices of the party, because as we've just seen with krudd being ousted, you're not voting in a prime minister, you're voting in a party.
and if i hear my grandmother go on about the boat people one more time i'm gonna lose it. 1% of the problem.
whostoleaceius 1 year ago
Yep, she's an athiest. Yep she will help to destroy the country I love.
Nobody voted her in. Lets vote her out.
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65
Rather an atheist than a child molesting turn a blind eye christian...
cutthecrapable 1 year ago 8
She is the Antichrist for Australia. God save us from the 666.
mmedrano57 1 year ago
I am an atheist, I'd vote for her, but I'm voting for the Greens this election... sorry Julia.
steveseason 1 year ago
@steveseason
Same here. Sorry Julia, its the Greens for me this election.
DireDowns 1 year ago
derrrp
coopadupa 1 year ago
gillard is a tranny
meakd 1 year ago
Good grief!! You don't think it matters that Gillard is an athiest? Australia is a country built and based on Christian beliefs, morals and standards. An athiest in a position of power over policies and laws in this country is just plain scary! She will use her influence to allow "tollerance" of other religions such as islam to get a hold in Australia and destroy the country our fathers and grandfathers knew, fought for and loved. Shame. It does matter. We didn't vote her in. VOTE HER OUT!!!
jwheat65 1 year ago 2
@jwheat65 "Christian morals"? Are you being sarcastic?
Would those morals include killing people who cheat on their partners and killing homosexuals? What about the Bible's endorsement of slavery and rape?
Australia is secular country and is successful for that very reason.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 Not being sarcastic. (??)
Australia is *not* a secular country. Our laws, history, values, standards and yes the morals reflected by those are based on the Christian beliefs and Values of the founders of this great country.
Aren't you glad they are?
Would you like to live in Iran?
The degrading of these values and standards by governments, do-gooders, the apathetic and the ill-informed is dangerous and very concerning to the Australians who love this country the way it is.
jwheat65 1 year ago 8
@jwheat65 Secularism means that a country's government is neutral to all religions. Australian does not have a state sponsored religion. Iran, on the other hand, does (Islam).
Christianities 'morals' are twisted, brutal and down right idiotic. Do you honestly agree with the morals of the Bible and do you really think they are and continue to be values that Australia is built upon? Do you think we should kill homosexuals? Should we still hunt for witches? Please answer truthfully.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 The "secular" state of Australia is a result of the degrading of the values and standards by governments and apathetic people as I have already pointed out.
You are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity and the Bible's Old Testament laws with the New Testament.
Atheism in government and particularly a prime minister who is openly athiest is dangerous and another "Move backwards" for Australia.
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Well done, you have successfully dodged my question. I do not know what branch of Christianity you believe in (Catholicism, Orthodox etc) but the foundation of Christian beliefs lie within the Old and New Testament. You can't just reject the teachings of the Old Testament because you do not like them but still call yourself a believer. You seem to want people to abide to morals that even you will not admit to believing in.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 I don't think i dodged anything. I'm a Christian but that's probably not completely relevant here. Perhaps you should ask your questions in another forum; and good on you, that's how we learn. :-) No matter what you believe you need to think about the future of this country. If you have no God, you have no accountability. Nothing matters. There are no consequenses. I don't want to live in a society that believes that. Do you? VOTE GILLARD OUT!
jwheat65 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Of course it is relevant. Your stating that because JG is an atheist and does not adhere to Christian "morals", she will ruin the country. Yet you still dodge the question on whether you even adhere to those "morals" that you peddle.
Also, of course there are consequences. But within this life time. It almost seems that you are only a believer in fear of eternal damnation. You should really educate yourself further on what Atheism is instead of coming up with false assumptions.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@jwheat65 so what you are basically saying is "look how good religiously founded australia is, so much better than those religiously founded nations like Iran"
Plausiblesarge 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Secondly, Australia *IS* secular (the power of secularism is much weaker in our constitution than that of the USA however) and I am not an expert on this, however section 116 of our constitution specifically states that the government is NOT allowed to act in a way that "imposes any religious observance", neither can they pass any law to establish a state religion. It would be ILLEGAL for Australia to be anything other than secular. EPIC FAIL
Plausiblesarge 1 year ago
@jwheat65
Don't you think Juia Gillard had a Christian education?
So what?
You are mixing up apples and oranges and end up with the forbidden fruit.
I know a snake if I see one, but what about you?
schusterlehrling 1 year ago
@jwheat65 You obviously are a secular country now, if you weren't before.
I'm glad that Australia, and my own country, are not based on "Christian values'. I'm not into the whole treat women like objects, stone non-christians, murder disobedient children type of society.
LikeALeadZeppelin 1 year ago
@jwheat65 the laws are based on basic Judeo-Christian values but the Constitution implies secularism when it mentions that no state religion may be imposed on the people of Australia
irishgodfatherchris 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Really, because I have never seen Australians cut off their hands if they sin with them, or slaughter neigboring countries killing all women and children except for the virgin girls, or executing people for eating shellfish. Funny that you asked if people would like to live like Iran. Of course they don't want a theocracy. I am so glad that you are wrong. I am so glad that Australians are more moral than the biblical god.
trueleroix 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Yes. Let's create an "other" an "enemy", someone to hate. How many Iranian people do you know? Have you conducted interviews with a broad spectrum of the Iranian community to arrive at your "Iran is a terrible country" opinion. And the degrading of values! What a ridiculous statement to make. You're right, and they're wrong, right? I don't feel I need a "man" (how absurd) in the sky watching over me to be a good person, nor an enemy upon which to project my fear, for my god is love.
fran22cis 11 months ago
@jwheat65 Rather have a country free of religion and crappy prime minsters.
Bobster930 10 months ago
@jwheat65 - Australia needs to become a fiercely secular society. Religious dellusions and controls have no place in a modern society. If you have some faith - keep it in your church or in your home.
IncognitoShhh 10 months ago
@IncognitoShhh there is such a thing as being too secular
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris - no there isn't.
IncognitoShhh 10 months ago
@IncognitoShhh I'll give an example, France and Belgium have this problem where like the religious conservatives in say the US they're ramming their ideals down everyones throats, Secularism is merely the separation of church and state, it has nothing to do with personal beliefs, Constitutionally Australians have the right to hold/not hold any religious beliefs
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris - all humans have the right to choose. and those who educate themselves lean towards an enlightened view of the world. i personally am a secular humanist. Separation is not enough. If people wish to have supernatural "beliefs" so be it. But not in schools, and not discussed in the mainstream media like it's real. I repeat my original comment - keep it in your home or in your church. no-one else should be forced to respect these "beliefs"
IncognitoShhh 10 months ago
@IncognitoShhh exactly my point was is that countries like France and Belgium are so secular that they don't respect their people's inalienable right to a freedom of belief.
irishgodfatherchris 10 months ago
@IncognitoShhh Keep your lack of faith at home
scoooty 2 months ago
@jwheat65 Yes I'm glad our society is based on Chritians values etc.. but is the compromise we have to believe in a god we can't see, have no scientific facts it actually exists and is actually also declared a muslim in Islam. Why not have a society based on intelligent design rather that a pre medievil, bronze age myth. Atheist's are all for morals and fundermentals. Just not the hocus-pocus and extremisim of religion.
killrazer1 9 months ago
@jwheat65 Oh wow. Do you seriously think we are based on christian beliefs? Why is it legal to go to work on Sunday? Why is slavery illegal here? Why don't we kill people who disrespect their parents? You are seriously deluded if you think we are a christian nation.
Moppy1988 4 months ago
@Moppy1988 Yes I do and no I'm not. God loves you! Read a bible and try to understand it before you start critising and making yourself look like an idiot. :-)
jwheat65 4 months ago
@jwheat65 if god loves me, why would he send me to hell?
Moppy1988 4 months ago
@Mad1093 And Atheists have never killed anybody, right?
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
@1WhoSeeks I never said that. At all.
Of course Atheists have killed people but not in the name of Atheism.
Christians, Muslims and Jews have killed millions over the course of human history for their religion. All killing each other because God told them it was a good idea.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 Maybe so but I just get sick of the argument that everyone else is bad but hey, we`re OK. "Christian", Atheist, Jew. No one is any better than anybody else. The human race is a waste of good air.
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
@1WhoSeeks Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things. But our beliefs are the motives behind that and I hate to see some peoples beliefs so grounded in superstition and bigotry, who also are extremely devout and can never be persuaded otherwise.
Yes, humankind is fucked up but it also very entertaining and interesting. So lets all sit back and enjoy the show until we disappear back into non-existence.
Mad1093 1 year ago
@Mad1093 Amen.
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
@jwheat65 Not to mention, that most Atheists I`v met are haters.
1WhoSeeks 1 year ago
I think the way too piss off the idiots; Julia GIllard saying that she is a lesbian, hemaphrodite that is actually part indigenous,
Julietteisme 1 year ago
haha. you're subtlety funny
meohmy217 1 year ago
Excellent video - it is their actions we must judge, not their spiritual convictions
Klingschor 1 year ago
@Klingschor i agree. i'm catholic.. but im voting for her.
meohmy217 1 year ago
We are not going to vote for somebody who believe in god. She is godless.
fairkoala 1 year ago
It is about time Australia got a rational prime minister.
blabby102 1 year ago
@blabby102
True.
They should have a closer look at Christopher Pyne than Gillards partner.
chavrons1 1 year ago
Graham,
Having education on the Bible and being able to quote bible passages, gives someone their own right to choose if they believe what's written in it or not.
Graham you would be better talking about Christpher Pyne.
chavrons1 1 year ago
What language is this?
Viconiuz 1 year ago
0:20-0:25..... exactly who is saying not to vote for gillard because she doesn't believe in god? i've not heard one espousal to this effect. all i've heard so far on this area of things is that people who identify themselves as religious that have been asked in the street, say the opposite. the reality is, she's a fuckin labour candidate you douche..christians are mostly told by the church to vote liberal regardless, as the policy structure suits their right wing agenda. this video is retarded.
eyeflow9 1 year ago
I think you made some great points. A person should only be elected on their merits and not their religion or lack there of.
(I know this is insulting but I can't help myself.)
When you laugh you remind me of Jabba the Hut.
tpro83 1 year ago
Loose some pounds before you go on youtube and stay of the drugs.
djanth747 1 year ago
@squiggz90 ~ We don't have a bill of rights and whether she is an atheist or not, swearing on the bible is just a formality of respect for the Australian constitution and its citizens; not for religion not for "god". More on topic, we live in a secular society not a religious state. Also we don't really vote in a leader, we vote in a party; they vote in the leader to represent them so they can function and properly govern the country, regardless of what belief system the leader pertains to.
MrDeadmonkey7 1 year ago
@MrDeadmonkey7
Actually we go on values and ethics handed down to us by good parents with a good background in religion. Which means telling the truth and honesty. We still have all the good values from a bible, such as giving to others and looking after those less off than ourselves.
We still respect the bible as a means for truthfullness.
If children are nurtured with love and a sense of their true selves from good parents they have carried all these precious values.
chavrons1 1 year ago
people are always painting a picture of religious Australians as being intimidated by a female athiest, "oooh what a travesty to my middle class church going redneck family!"
grow up, we are not all as youd like us to be, in fact for most this will not affect our vote.
your theological opinion is not important in politics nor your gender.
newerawearer 1 year ago
@newerawearer
Redneck refers to those who work out in the sun.
It's an American term not australian.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@chavrons1
thank's to media shaping meaning and our perceptions, the word redneck is no longer only referring to those who 'work out in the sun'. The common understanding of the word 'redneck' used in this context refers to the stereotype of western american, church going racists an homophobics. I think you understand what I mean and your nitpicking is entirely trivial.
newerawearer 1 year ago
how could people NOT prefer an atheist. ugh..makes me so sick.
whyiaskyou79 1 year ago
@whyiaskyou79
Many atheists haven't even been christened or have gone to Church.
At least she has had the education from a church and a bible to make up her own mind.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@chavrons1
huh? make up her own mind about what? whether or not the bible is true? Why didnt she have to learn as much abt Hinduism, Islam, or Buddhism and then 'make up her own mind' on those?
I was commenting on how absurd it is that people would NOT prefer someone who didnt have a religious bias.
And while 'many' atheists havnt been christened or have gone to church (oh, what a fright), most have been. Religious indoctrination for kids is still extremely prevalent.
whyiaskyou79 1 year ago
@whyiaskyou79
Because our parents have a religion Whyiskyou.
The churches we go to, could be Pres, R/C, United Church, Anglican, Methodist ect.
We usually go to churches our parents belong to.
Wether or not there is such a thing as a god Whyisask you.
You can still get good teachings out of the bible which ever way you translate it.
A bible can be translated in many different ways depending on your religion.
Not many in this Generation are Christened these days Whyiskyou.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@chavrons1
Don't you see the problem with the correlation between what people 'believe' with what their parents 'believe'? It's QUITE peculiar if you ask me. And don't give me 'the bible can be interpreted in many ways'. The teachings of different religions have conflicts that make it impossible for all to be right.
TONS of people are still being 'Christened'/baptised. I don't even know what your point is there.
gosh, I'm sometimes embarrassed to be part of a species of such weakminded people
whyiaskyou79 1 year ago
@whyiaskyou79
My ancestor was The Archbishop of York, Hugh Puiset.
He was R/C. Then they changed to Baptist after Queen Eliz, got rid of the R/Cs.
What i get from the bible Whyiaskyu and my parents are the values, of giving to others and helping those less off than yourself.
I go with what's inside of me. What I feel. My ancestories were also Celts.
At the time of Jesus many of the were Celts. Mary Magdalene's mother was a Celt. Joan of Arc was a Celt before she was a Catholic.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@chavrons1
i don't get the point of the history lesson. Moving on though, I gather youre the type of person who looks to bible for moral inspiration, focusing on the parts you agree with in the 1st place, and ignoring the rest (human/animal sacrifice, not eating shellfish, killing unruly children).
That's called having ur OWN morals. How could you possibly give credit to the bible for telling you to be kind to others?Youre kind to others because youre a social animal with compassion and empathy
whyiaskyou79 1 year ago
@whyiaskyou79
I don't believe that you can really believe there is a god by just reading the bible, You have to experience it, from inside. To have visions of a more powerful energy source. We are all different from one another. Each one should be respected for how they feel inside and their beliefs.
Julia works more on her left side the intelligent side. I work more on my right and my middle eye. Very much like Hindu and Egyptian and Celtic.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@chavrons1
yea, I totally agree that reading the bible doesnt make someone believe there is a god. I think there's a lot more to it (fear of dying, fear of the unknown, wanting so badly to know how the universe is here that one is willing to make something up and convince him/her self that it's true, wanting to live forever in paradise, wanting to appease family and society by accepting what they are told to believe).
whyiaskyou79 1 year ago
@chavrons1
I feel bad for you if you think that having visions of a 'more powerful energy source' (w/e that means) is reason to believe there is a god. Are you even remotely familiar with what our minds are capable of doing? I'm sure you dreamt last night...were the visions of (enter dream here) your idea of reality?
People can 'see' things that are not really there.
People all over the world 'feel' strongly that their religion is the right one. They can't all be right, but can all be wrong.
whyiaskyou79 1 year ago
When she swore on the bible "in God we trust" (Bill of rights) did she mean it?
she does not trust in God so why should Australia trust in her?
squiggz90 1 year ago
@squiggz90 She didn't swear on the bible. Why does she have to believe in your God for Australia to trust her.
Your God is not real so fuck off.
neomysterio 1 year ago
@squiggz90 What? Do you mean Julia Gillard? She didn't swear on the bible. She took an affirmation oath. And there is no Bill of Rights in Australia. That's American.
portantwas 1 year ago
@squiggz90
God has different meanings to different people.
If you swear on the bible to tell the truth and the whole truth how many people that are Religous tell lies ?????? Many i am sure.
chavrons1 1 year ago
@squiggz90
As you said, why didn't they learn about Hinduism, Islam, or Buddhism that is the reason i left a religion up to my own children to decide.
One of my son's tends to like Buddhism teachings, although he's not a Buddhist.
I myself like Hinduism, Buddism and Pagan. Not much difference between them really. Or American indian, or dreamtime. If we want to learn about other religions we can. We have our own choices.
Education. A lot depends on how we feel inside.
chavrons1 1 year ago
2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
valu777 1 year ago
Graham, imagine Senator Penny Wong as our first Chinese-Australian lesbian as Australian PM. Anything could happen.
DeafFret 1 year ago
How many times do I have to tell you people! Must I resort to SHOUTING? WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT, I repeat - do not (now I'm wispering) elect the PRIME MINISTER!!!! (back to wispering) the lower house (the House of representatives) elects the PM, you stupid child like idiots. Yes yes yes, of course, of course, of course that depends on the Party or Coalition of Parties who COMMAND a simple majority of votes in that place. This ends lesson 1.
listen2meokidoki 1 year ago
Lesson 2. Now it follows that the Party or Coalition of 2 or more Parties, with a simple majority of votes (and some disipline to keep the votes united) in the house of R. decides who will be their Fuhrer. This always happens before an election. But that mob can change their Fuhrer at any time. The Fuhrer then becomes the Prime Minister. Now, we the People need to be governed, yes? Here ends lesson 2 of 3 lesons.
listen2meokidoki 1 year ago
Why elect a PARTY? Well, we need to avoid electing "single issue" candidates. Government can not be achieved by a mob of single issue people unless they unite. That what your local M.P. is. A single issue (your area) . Give the Shooters Party FREE GUNS & they are like Peg-Leg the Pirate - without a peg. They fall over, & maybe the gun goes off. They can only think DEEPLY about gun issues. That's why we have PARTIES. They tap the talents of the many to find the devil in the details of new laws.
listen2meokidoki 1 year ago
PS: And remember, the Prime Minister is not accountable to you mongels, you idiots THE PEOPLE. You have no iBLOODY dea about anything. YOU are just self interested individual PIGS. Or MORONS concerned about nothing but stupid FASHION and GOSSIP. No, the P.M. is accountable only to the PARLIAMENT so YOU SHUT UP A YOUR MOUTH.
listen2meokidoki 1 year ago
I think her being an Atheist is better because she won't favor 1 religion and spend money on it and stuff.
Xienux 1 year ago
Id vote for her just because she's an atheist.!
Id much rather jabb Kristina.
Bite008 1 year ago
one fine feature about julia Gillard: she's an atheist
DonnnixD 1 year ago
She better fix up the environment, or were all DOOOOOOMED. (plays Gothic organ music)
stoodOnAnArk 1 year ago
God loves everyone. Well, you know... unless ur gay.
insertcashhere 1 year ago
As long as she respects the cock, who cares if she's an atheist!
Zebonka 1 year ago
funniest evil laugh i hav ever heard @ 1:15
hahahahah!!!
jassanjassan 1 year ago
The comment at 00:39 was funny as.
goraxus 1 year ago
lol it's good she is an atheist, it means she won't be wasting time trying to convince us god is somehow a key part of Australian politics and fixing the problems this country faces..
wogacelli 1 year ago
I feel more comforted to know she doesn't believe in God. Without God, she can actually focus on the real things happening in our country, and not judge them based on a centuries old book.
Timberly0293 1 year ago
Is not that she is an atheist thats the problem. I want our PM to have pollicies that are based with chrisitian values. Thats important to me plus her being in the labour party doesnt help.
smicko77 1 year ago
garagecrap is so right...why should people who just want to be human and have human wants and needs be categotised by such a religious term,its just societies stereotypical need to seperate people into groups for social or political agenda's,unfortunely majorities and minorities have more power than sensible humans...tbh athiests are sick of all the shit that religious factions bring to the world,funny part is if there is a god i'm sure god would feel the same way...lol.
beakill 1 year ago
WTF is Atheist anyway?! Just because some people don't believe, they have to be branded with some name? How about just a "HUMAN" huh? Not fucking good enough?
garagecrap 1 year ago
God is the one whom raises up and brings down.Julia Gillard being in the top job of a government not of God will make no difference.World events are preordained and are continually manipulated and adjusted by God.So that all that is written will come to pass as it is written,If one believes it or not.
RogVMax 1 year ago
I hold her in even higher regard because she's admitted to that. Who gives a fuck what she believes in - so long as she does the right thing. There's no god anyway, so why bother wasting your time believing in a myth? Put your energies into something that matters!
GitarStu 1 year ago
I am so proud of our new Prime Minister Julia Gillard. She certainly has balls to come out and say she is an atheist on public television. I hope she follows on with Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau who reckons that police had no business in people's bedroom and was forthcoming with the bill for Gay rights in the 60's.
LeCanadienerrant 1 year ago
Welcome to Australia Run by old sterotypes that is holding this place down
like you all i care about is if she does good
Mrbob200 1 year ago
NO vote, shes labor
elmav 1 year ago
how does her faith have an impact on her decision on how to run the country?
NeArMisSeD 1 year ago
What does one do Graham when one views all PMs as people who serve financial agendas and not the people? She’s going to push for a carbon tax among other things; most of us know that’s all a pack of lies, the religious and sexual gender thing means nothing to me, it’s the pushing taxes on people for fictitious reasons, that’s criminal activity in my book.
coit7 1 year ago
i wouldnt vote for any one who is religious, i get a funny feeling julia could be gay?!
1GOD1JESUS 1 year ago
looove the end bud
camcamey 1 year ago
least she has a good head on her shoulders...and shes not blinded by some "higher being" that actually doesnt exist...means she will most likely make appropriate decisions..and she wont be under the pump from a jealous non existant god who is spiteful and wants to kill everyone all the time...i mean come on can you seriously beleive that shit? life is what you make it, and being good to your fellow human being is all you should really take into life morally!
RadioHomicide666 1 year ago
I'm glad she's been honest and admitted to being an Atheist, but i'm not sure if it's the best decision for votes, there is a large population of religious people who will be affected in their vote.
I believe in "a" god or higher power, but not in christianity, or any specific religion.
I'm dissapointed that she's said that there should not be gay marriage. I'm surprised by that. (ps; i'm not gay).
JAYRAY00 1 year ago
Why bring Gay people into it like it a bad thing?
Gay Aussies are your friends ,neighbours,relatives,shop keepers, solicitors, doctors, garbage collectors,nurses,librarians, teachers, police, ambo;s, and you probably never know it, unless they let you.
Why? Please explain WHY/
Australia is the best country..lets keep it ours.
I am enjoying Gillards publicity...lets see if she can look after our needs and rights to stay an AUSSIE Culture. Oi, Oi ,Oi
MitchGnomee 1 year ago
According to christians no matter how much a good person you maybe if you don't believe in god in a christians eyes you aren't a good person, moral etc.
I thinks its a good thing since an athiest will treat everybody else the same as they would anybody else.
MrNintoku 1 year ago
She isn't a good person, she stabbed Krudd in the back via an insidious party revolt against him . Hardly morally virtuous is she? Rudd's policies were co-created with her.
Furthermore, self adulating atheists are usually cold hearted socialists with no substance and display the usual hatred of the human race.
Samsgarden 1 year ago
That 500 character limit is annoying...sorry for the multiple posts Graham! ;)
TrancedNRG 1 year ago
I don't like Gillard too much but I'm so thankful we have a leader with no religious background. It's the way it should be.
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AstgferAllah 1 year ago
I'm glad a Female Athiest can be PM. However nothing in this world can convince me to put Senator Steve Conroy anything but LAST on my ballot paper when I get it. (I'm in Melbourne, so I will literally get Conroy on my ballot paper.)
So Julia, Kick out Conroy, and you get my vote. Don't, and...
Oh who am I kidding, I'm not voting for Abbott without first getting a lobotomy.
musicalaviator 1 year ago
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iceland was completely stuffed by the G.F.C. thanks to their reckless policies on lending. this guy is a complete fool.
donellan 1 year ago