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  • Excellent overview!

    One question, what bible version are you using here?

  • I posted this AS THE TRUTH THAT IT IS and got a verbal smack in the mouth by a person that insists that WE WILL GO THROUGH THE TRIBULATION........LOL Praise You Jesus that I'll be with the Bride of Christ BEFORE the trib.

  • Great work Scott! Loved your breakdown brother! ;)

  • One thing: what is the point of sealing his people if they won't go through tribulation? I read Deuteronomy 6:4-9 where the Israelites are told to mark their heart, their mind, their forehead and their doorposts with his commands--described just like Rev 13:16-17 (mark of the beast in the hand and forehead) and Ex 12:23 (passover lamb's blood on doorframes). The Israelites stayed on earth yet were kept safe because of a mark; YHWH is consistent, so why will it be different in the future?

  • Scottie, if you answer the questions made by 1339girlisback you will see that your questions starting at 5:37 of this video are moot. I asked you to consider all the suffering by the children of God up to this point as tribulation being upon us for hundreds of years. The family of God has always suffered in the ways you say God would never allow His children to suffer.

    There are several people on your response list here urging you to reconsider your view, dont let pride sideswipe you here.

  • Yews but these things was to happen shortly or near, so why does that mean 2000 years into the future?

    OK remember that John wrote of the anticrists (plural, not singular). John wrote of people who were opposed to Christ, not a singular antichrist.

    So why does John write in rev 1:3 that the time is near (or at hand). The time is near for those of the 1st century, not us. Yet in 1 tim Paul writes of his time is at hand which was true since he dies soon after.

    God Bless you and your family.

  • Is not revelation used as symbolic in nature?

    1 Thes Paul is speaking to those about who just died. Read the context of the passage, Paul is speaking to a group of followers and not a future group of believers.

    In Matthew 24 Jesus is not speaking to us. He is speaking to the followers of His day. Notice the word usage. 2 “Do you see all these things?” Notice Jesus is using a present tense term of you. He is not speaking to future generations some 2000 years into the future but to His people.

  • What about all the saints that have already been crucified, stoned, burned at

    the stake, beheaded, drawn and quartered etc.? That includes most of the

    apostles. Why would only the end time church, the lukewarm church be

    spared? These scriptures are not talking about saving our bodies, they are

    referring to saving our souls from these things. The conflicting viewpoints

    come from reasoning in the spirit and reasoning in the flesh. This sounds

    good if you are reasoning in the flesh. God is spirit.

  • @niksilvourboat

    There are two resurrections. Once when Christ retuns just prior to the 1000 years, and then the wicked dead are not resurrected till after its over.

  • You present a great case by scripture picking, yet I think you are sincere in your belief, so may GOD help you see all of His Word from an entire epistle. Just one example. How can you use 1 Thes 4:13-18 for rapture theory, then jump to chapter 5:9 about not being appointed to wrath, yet verses 1-8 plainly state when they say peace & safety, sudden destruction cometh on them cause they are of the night, but THAT DAY should not overtake you, ur children of light. May GOD bless you. PeaceB2All

  • "How is it a comfort that we are going through a tribulation and that this would be the end of it"- my brother, you clearly have a sheltered life if you think that others aren't IN their own tribulation RIGHT NOW. I doubt you would ever tell that to a starving Coptic Ethiopian follower of our Messiah, or our brothers in Iran and Iraq whose wives and daughters are being raped and beheaded for their testimony. pray on this, my brother.

  • There's no rapture, my friend. It is a horrible Christian fairy tale. There is no such thing as a "church age". That's a man-made idea. Revelation 20:4 plainly describes the dead in Christ rising AFTER the beast is defeated and AFTER the thousand year reign of Yashoshua Ha Mashiach. That's the game. Any pre, mid, or pre-wrath rapture theory falls with a single verse.

  • In content-Matt 24:29 Immediately AFTER the tribulation.30.And THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man31.And he shall sent his ANGELS with a great sound of a TRUMPET,and they shall gather together his ELECT.1 Thes.4:16 For the Lord shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT,with the voice of the ARCHANGEL,& the TRUMP of God:and the DEAD in Christ shall rise FIRST.John 6:39 ALL which the Father hath givin me I should loose nothing but should RAISE IT AGAIN at the LAST DAY! Love u all in Christ!

  • History-Israel not takin out of Egypt when God sent pleges on Egypt.Was protected through it.Danel was cast into lions den,God protected though it,Shad,Mesh,&Abed went through firey funace & was protected from flames.Lot was takin out of Sodom same day it was utterly destroyed not 7 years before.Noeh was saved through the flood.Rahab the harlot was saved as Jerrico fell all around her & her family.Isaiah 57:1-2 is those who escape.Tares are reaped 1st then the wheat Matt 13:30 1thes4:13-5:2 DOL

  • Scottie Great message very up lifting and encouraging. The rapture seems to so much clearer. keep up the good work.

  • you are such a blessing! in agreement with others that you explained pretrib and outline of Rev. so well. Please YHWH, may it be that all the bride be gathered soon and the rest of God's plan unfold. we pray for those without faith in Jesus that they will not be deceived, but turn to Christ and reject the beast empire

  • You explained this so well brother :o) Many blessings to you and Praise God for His love and His coming...I simply can't wait.... There is only one reason I want to wait and that is for the ones who are not ready...I want our Father to have His biggest hope and wish and that is for His babies in His arms....where we belong...Please pray for this brothers and sisters.... Much love and blessings to you all

  • Excellent teaching!

  • Probably one of the best breakdowns of the pre tribes rapture I've ever seen, I too believe in the pre trib rapture...God bless you, this was encouraging :)

  • @rapturewatcher82 Thank you, I appreciate it! God bless you.

  • @ppdrawings it is indeed an interesting quote in the bible.... I think that it actualy means heaven, and the lord is gathering together the saints/bride that will return with him to earth. But of course my knowledge is pretty small.... :-) bless u

  • @zebastianviden

    Paul gave the same order of events as Jesus did in Matthew 24, and same with Peter for the most part. Showing that the day of the Lord,and our gathering, occurs after the man of sin is revealed. For the longest time I ignored this, and tried to change verses to mean something other than what they said.

    To put it bluntly, there is no verse that shows pre-trib,other than us reading something into a vese as a hope to avoid what is coming.

  • haha! im sorry but all you post-tribbers out there need to pop out of your bubble and realise what the bible really says, remember we take the bible literally as christians and if the book of revelations is in chronological order and rev 1-3 is the church age and then at the start of rev 4 john says himself " he was changed to the spirit" thats what we are to take it as, and it wouldnt make sense to even think about post trib it would make more sense to be mid,even tho its still wrong godbless!

  • I believe post trib,but i did watch your whole video.Have you ever studied the other views in depth without bias?

  • @crucibull Thanks. Yes, I was a bit of a pre-wrather/mid-tribber early last year. Some of the scriptures that got me away from that view, I mention here. I could never swallow post trib theory. Peace!

  • @eternalrhythmflow The Pastor of the church im attending is pre trib,and he's got a wealth of knowledge,and schooling.We talk about this topic quite often.It doesnt bother me to hear a pretrib view,but ive noticed an unease when i present the case other than pre.Its always in a respectful manner of course,and is nothing to argue over,but i just dont see hermeneutics that support pre at all.

  • @eternalrhythmflow Hi I am a pre trib believer. Have you heard of dewey bruton daniel's timeline? this was back in 2008 I believe. And here it is 2012. You heard about all the sign in 2011? Humm we are missing something are we not? First of all let me tell you what I do know, Jesus is to fulfill 3 feast that are left, feast of trumpet is first in line. This feast is know as "no man know the day or hour" This is the feast the rapture will happen on.

  • @eternalrhythmflow The rapture will happen on the feast of trumpet. This was a clue given by Jesus. What year is the ?. There must be an events that has to take place first before the rapture or trib can start. I believe this is what we are overlooking. Some believe that the church is removed before the antichrist is revealed other believe shortly after he is revealed. There is tension in the mideast as we speak I believe psalm 83 and ezekiel 38-39 must come first.

  • @arjmcf We have to remember that Jesus also said that He is coming at an hour that we think not. If He meant that He would come during a "feast of the trumpets" many people would only get righteous and make sure they were ready during that time of the year, every year.

    Jesus is also talking about His coming - not the rapture. Are these the same event or two separate events? If they are the same event - then there is no pre trib discussion at all because we all know the second coming is post.

  • @ppdrawings will you stop an think about what you said? Why do you only believe part of what Jesus said? I know there is two differ events one is the rapture and the other is He 2nd coming. Why would Jesus say " no man know the day or hour" and then have a feast day that mean "no man know the day or hour"? Tell me this, What will Jesus fulfill on the feast on trumpets? Do you do what this feast is about? And the other thiing related to this feast?

  • @arjmcf We need to remember that our thoughts are not His thoughts. I don't think the Lord is doing anything based on our timing or our days (any more) When Jesus said it is finished (on the cross) everything was fulfilled at that time. We are the ones that are still stuck on feast days and still following time which Jesus did when He was in the flesh but now, God exists outside of time. Its my opinion, I know. But I don't believe we can narrow it down at all, not even to a few days.

  • @ppdrawings WOW I never said the Lord is doing anything based on our timing or our days. When Jesus said it finish everything was fulfill up to that time, well sort of pentecost was later. And that is one of seven the feast of Israel. But not all is fulfill yet. If you beleive differ then you are stuck my friend. There is much more for you to learn, not saying I know it all, there much more for me to learn as well. Check the web and you will find there is more.

  • @arjmcf Everything that you have said is correct about the feast days and all of that. We still can't pinpoint when Christ is coming back. If we could then I think Jesus would have been able to as well but instead, he said He didn't even know the timing. If it could be narrowed down to a few days, I think Jesus would have narrowed it down. My point is, it doesn't matter when it actually is. We have a lot to face before then which we won't be ready for if our focus is on not being here.

  • @ppdrawings You right about no one when Jesus is coming back, I never said I knew. I said the feast of trumpet is the holiday the rapture will happen on.It id a 48 hr feast so no one know the day or hour or year, just that it happen on this feast. Jesus said to the jew priest that they will not see him again until they cry out for Him. This is at the end of trib. But you are forgetting something the word harpazo to snatch out of harm way.

  • @ppdrawings Harpazo means to snatch out of harm way. This is what you need to watch for. What events is to happen that will cause people around the world to be rapture or harpazo from danger? You see tension building up in the mideast, something happen to where a man the anitchrist will sept up and stop something before it get really bad. Or some very bad will happen that need to be stop. This is watch we should be watching for.

  • @arjmcf Yes, you're right!! I'm watching for the revelation of the antichrist and i'm also watching for what Jesus told us to watch for in Matthew 24. Many of Gods people are blinded to what is really going on in the world as it relates to these end times. I'm glad to hear you bring up the tension in the middle eastern countries. Keep your eyes open and remain strong.

  • @ppdrawings Jesus is also talking about His coming - not the rapture.??? How do you know this?? How do you know He is not talkimh about the rapture or both? You don't! Nor do I. I do know that the feast of trumpet is the pic of the wedding. You say people would get righteous during this feast, HAS THAT HAPPEN? No And even if they did don't you think Jesus would see right threw then? Here the BIG ? what is Jesus to fulfill on this feast????

  • @arjmcf The way we know that Jesus is talking about His coming is because He says "They shall see the son of man (Jesus) coming in the clouds". That is a coming!!

    about your other question, I don't think Jesus is going to fulfill anything on a feast day. It sounds like you don't know that these feasts happen every year. Thats why I said "people would make sure they were right at that time every year".

  • @ppdrawings OK first of all, they shall see the son of man (Jesus) coming in the clouds this is use twice that I know of one He will come in the clouds for the bride, and 2nd He will come back on the cloud as a warror. two differ events. Yes these feast happen every year like God command the jews to do it is a rehearsal> yes I know all about the feast of Israel. Jesus fulfill the first 4 feast there are 3 left. If you don't know this I will be happy to show you them.

  • @ppdrawings That why I say Jesus wpuld see that they only get right on this day. You can not fool the Lord Jesus. Just as I believe that Jesus would not mislead us when He said "no man know the day or hour" This was and is a clue of the season we are to always watch for. No other day of the year does the rapture fit so well as the feast of trumpet. Yes Jesus will fulfill something on this day.

  • I am excited for the rapture to come but I am also sad because I have parents, other family members, and friends who haven't come to Christ yet.

  • Great video brother! I strongly concur on what you have shared here...Rightly dividing the Word of truth, in the best manner that it is commonly understood....Peace to you Scott, and I look very forward to meeting you one day in our Father's Kingdom!

  • @eternalrhythmflow I have gone back and forth on how I believe in the tribulation. I was raised believing in pre-trib, but have since heard and tried to decide why I believe what I believe. I wanted to ask who you think the great multitude is in rev 7:9 right after the 144,000 get sealed?

  • @keeptruthseeking Rev 7:14 I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    Also known as: Tribulation saints. Those left behind who have come to Jesus after the rapture.

  • @RaptureMeJesus Agreed.

  • @RaptureMeJesus In that chapter, the trib is still far from over. At the second coming, Jesus will send his angels to gather His elect from the four corners of the earth - - - Are you saying that there is a pre trib rapture for the saints, then a rapture in chapter 7:14 for the ones who were not ready, then another gathering when Jesus returns at the second coming???

  • @ppdrawings Would that pose a problem for anyones theory? There are at least 8 "raptures" found in scripture. They are quite common actually. Maybe pre, mid and post trib theorys all have some truth to them.

  • @RaptureMeJesus Good point. I have found 10 different rapture scenarios thus far. I may make a video about that. Not many Christians know this.

  • @eternalrhythmflow I hope you DO make another video,,I am new to the tube and there isn't 'teachings' really now,its all about who gets the most views and/or warning other believers about this one or that one because the warner 'has a bad feeling about' whoever,,your teachings are wonderful,full of love,kindness,and you're very humble,A true teacher,you should be PASTOR Scott,you teach 'deep' a few 'pastors' I have watched shouldn't even try as its all 'pushed' at you.This is your calling

  • @ppdrawings But to answer your question, in Rev 7:14, it is not my belief that the tribulation saints here are "raptured" so to speak. The passage clearly states that they made their robes white in the blood of the Lamb. They most likely did that through faith and then physically perished at the hands of the world government.

  • @RaptureMeJesus Three raptures would really contradict all of the theories and it would also contradict the word of God. When I study all scriptures involved with all sides of all three theories, I see the rapture happening just days before the second coming (Dan12) I've never heard anyone teach that!! It doesn't make anyone happy to know that hard times are ahead but to say that they're not is simply not biblical, so you're probably right about them being killed during the trib.

  • @ppdrawings About the cornsers of the earth: If you refer to Matthew 24:30 it actually says "31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, -->from one end of 'heaven' to the other<--." Heaven - not the earth.

  • @zebastianviden Yes, I wasn't trying to quote it but thats exactly what it says. I know that the four winds mean (from everywhere) but I wonder what the "ends of heaven" are? Could be just another another way of saying "from everywhere".

  • SaWeet!! Just shared this AND your "Second Best Rapture..." on my facebook! : )

  • Hi Scottie...I finally had some time to sit with my notebook and focus on this vid! God Bless You and thank you Brother for taking the time to school us again...it was much needed!  PRAISE JESUS!!

  • The Bible says God is not a God of confuse and yet many are confuse when the Bible makes it clear, even Jesus made it clear. "Days of Noah or he wiill appear to those who look for him or in revelation when Jesus said I will keep from the hour of temptation THAT WILL TEST THE ENTIRE WORLD. Simple, how are people/christians confused? I believe that only a few believe Jesus is going to come back and are getting prepared, but there are many who knows he is coming and aren't getting prepared.

  • @777NewSaint well said my friend,,GOD Bless you

  • this video was better than perry stones rapture series. God bless you for taking the time to record it. Those minute little details are what causes everyone to misinterpret scripture. Maybe, you can answer this question for me, what happens during the 45 day time difference in Daniel12 11:12? Again, God bless you!

  • Many churches have instilled such a fear of the tribulation into their flock. And that is going to be the one thing that causes many to fall away because they believe it will be a time of such horror and terror that they couldn't possibly have the will or strength to endure. They'll reach the point of doubting because they won't understand why such a loving God would make them go through it, etc.

    My friends, remember you can do all things through Christ who strengthens you...Remember that...

  • you have nothing to fear from him who can destroy the body. The disciples found comfort during their trials and tribulations and if you keep in the faith, you will be given the strength of Christ to endure.

    Look at the people going through trials in other countries, famines, pestilences...earthquakes...pe­rsecution...if they can handle it and remain in the faith and find comfort, why can't you? Why are you going to be spared when no one else has been? Yes, this is worse than any other time..

  • in history. No other time has ever seen such war, disease and famine in the world. We are already living in a worse time than all history, and it's going to get even worse. We are not any more special then the disciples who died for their faith early on.

    Oh ye of little faith..why can you not trust that the Lord would give you the strength to overcome? Do you trust him so little? He promised strength, and that when we see these things to look up for our redemption draweth nigh...Our blessed...

  • hope is that when Christ returns we will go to be with him and find life everlasting. That if you believe, he will return for you because you have been bought with a price. That you won't be left to rot and perish.

    Don't fear this world, but look forward to his return..you have a hope that others do not have because you believe. Why have you let pastors and others make you fear what doesn't need to be feared?

  • @InformedTexasVoter You fail to understand the meaning of "tribulation" that is used in this video. It is not regular tribulation that is discussed. It is "The Tribulation Period", aka "Daniels 70th Week" that Scott is refering to. Yes, we all go through various tribulations in life and first century Christians had it worse, but the final days scripture refers to is widely known as The Tribulation Period, 7 years of the worst the world has ever seen. This clearly begins when the Bride leaves.

  • The real question is why was Paul telling the first C.Corinthian Church to take comfort in the resurrection? Was he speaking exclusively of a great trib of the endtimes (which they weren't even close to in time) or the tribulation they were under at that time? The first century christians experienced persecutions like being fed to lions, impaled, and other horrific things that God did not rescue by rapture his church. Time is running out on the pre-trib clock. None of the things that Pre-trib..

  • Sounds good to me. But the 24 elders are the 12 sons of Abraham and the 12 Apostles.

  • Christ says:

    Jhn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Jhn 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    Jhn 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day

    more...

  • Jhn 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

    These verses teach that those who have died will be raised on the last day. These are they who have died in the faith...now Thessalonians says that those who are alive will not precede those who have died.

    There will be many who die with in the Lord during the tribulation...if we will not precede those who have died in Christ who can the rapture be before the tribulation?

  • In regards to the last trump mentioned. Remember Paul speaks of it being as a mystery:

    1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed...

    One of the reasons why people connect the last trump to the trumpet in revelations is this:

    Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    The mystery of God should be finished...

  • just as the last trumpet begins to sound, matching with 1 corinthians 15:51.

    You asked: how is it any kind of comfort that we would be going through the tribulation and that this would happen at the end?

    Do you think the disciples had comfort during their tribulation? Paul did tell them to comfort each other with those words that Christ would return for them and they would be raised incorruptible.

    Did they not rejoice in the blessed hope despite what they went through? You don't need to...

  • be removed to find comfort in tribulation and trials, or believe that you will avoid them to find comfort.

    ---

    Please bear with me as I have a few more things I'd like to share:)

    What do we obtain salvation from? Is it the period of seven years that was to come upon the world at the end of time? Surely the people in Moses time were not focusing on the time the antichrist, the final seven years on this earth..the messiah hadn't even come the first time around yet...

  • To obtain salvation from their sins and be spared the second death, the lake of fire. Not being appointed to wrath has nothing to do with being taken out before the tribulation, otherwise those who get saved in the tribulation would be appointed to wrath since they are there.

    If they don't have to be raptured out to avoid the wrath of God and still obtain salvation in Christ, why do we have to be?

    What about the verse that speaks of being kept from the hour of temptation that...

  • is to come upon the earth?....The bible also says that he will keep us from evil, and keep us from falling...if he doesn't have to rapture us out to keep us from evil an keep us from falling...why does he have to rapture us out to keep us from the hour of temptation?

    He'll give us the strength to overcome in difficult times just as he did for the disciples. He gave them strength and courage, and kept them from the temptation to deny him.

  • that the son of perdition must be revealed before the gathering occurs, and the gathering occurs on the day of the Lord, the day of Christ. The day which no man knows..and comes as a thief in the night is the day of the Lord, which occurs at the end of the tribulation when the sun no longer gives her light, and the moon becomes blood.

    In Matthew 24, Jesus gives us full description of what will happen, including mentioning the rapture after the tribulation of those days when he gathers us..

  • What would happen if you were facing the tribulation and the pre-trib rapture didn't happen? Would your faith stand the test? If anyone has any questions or just wanna chat feel free to respond or private message me:)

  • @Myhopeisinhim LOLOLOL ahhhhh man! ! ! You are saying the exact same thing that I have said - time and time again. These jokers are not reading the bible at all. They are leaning on their own understanding. Stay strong brother.

  • @ppdrawings

    The desire to believe in a pre-trib is so strong. I remember my journey through it's teaching and how much I didn't want to let go, even though Jesus himself stated that our gathering was after the tribulation of those days. And then seeing Paul re-iterate what Jesus said, all the while thinking that he was giving a different order because I believed what someone told me.

    Until their heart believes they can weather any storm in Christ, they won't let go.

  • @ppdrawings Rodney, I have always been kind to you and have never called you names because you disagree with my theology. That said, I do not appreciate you coming to my channel and my videos to backhandedly call me and those who believe in a pre-trib rapture, "jokers". Is that how Jesus would want you to act? Unsubscribe if my videos cause a problem for you. Leaving comments here is a privilage. Remember that.

  • @eternalrhythmflow I'm sorry I hurt your feelings!! That comment was not meant for that. I deleted it. Thanks!

  • @ppdrawings Please do not put words in my mouth. I never said my feelings were hurt. I simply don't appreciate the name calling. Thank you for deleting the comment, Rodney. Be blessed.

  • @eternalrhythmflow ~ Excellent "SIMPLE" Explanation on this HIGHLY CONtroversial subject! You Explained this "ALMOST" as Simple as the GOSPEL!! LoL! Isn't it Funny how the Deceivers have made us BELIEVE that the Millennium started in 2000?? LoL! & That people actually Believed Hilarious Harold who went Campings Rapture prediction when Gods Book told Us No Man knows the Day or time?? Except the Father.. Hmm?? God Bless you Brother! William :)

  • @SuperWilliam2424 Thank you Sir. Blessings to you as well!

  • @eternalrhythmflow My good man,you truly walk after our LORD JESUS CHRIST..great example you are for fellow believers,the way others SHOULD be also.LOL,we have a mutual friend by the way,MyMosli,she would bite her tongue off before she'd say anything close to hurtful-she's leaving youtube due to all the judgemental comments,saying when she first came on there were wonderful teachings,but only a few left,the rest are about the views and such,she pointed me to you,she is right,great teachings

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  • The church of Philadelphia is the one which Jesus was truly pleased with.Notice that the church of Laodicea is the last one mentioned. Of course I'm not trying to imply it's completely cut+dry but....it's obvious that the Laodicean church is the overall "condition" of the present church age!! We all need to be ready so that we will be counted worthy to escape the hour of trial which will come upon the whole earth.Time to be serious with God or that time come on you like a snare+are left here.

  • @777endtimesnow THose born again of Faith only in Jesus are ready!  Nothing else needs be done!

  • Amen Scottie....you rock...God's richest blessings to you!!! love ya

  • Scott is mentioning the wedding chamber+there will be the bride of Christ attending the marriage supper of the Lamb.There is also the judgement seat of Christ which pertains 2 Christians who will have their works tried(not part of salvation...but motives of them)in which some will be rewarded+others suffer loss.It's only the bride which will be raptured(those who truly live for God)+tons will be left behind..Rev.3:16 describes this.They'll be in Heaven but will have to be beheaded at that time.

  • @777endtimesnow Heresy! All born again are the bride! Your works are as rubbish! The only work the Father desires is to believe in His son whom He sent! Do that and you are born again and have done all He wants!!

  • @Billthesheepdog Hey...I wouldn't say it's heresy...seriously?? I know our works are as rubbish...but at the Judgement Seat of Christ we will have our works tried...some will be rewarded, others will suffer loss. All that's required for salvation is faith in Christ+repentance(without there is no salvation!!) Why would we be told to pray always that we will be found worthy to escape hr. of trial,if we all do?His bride has made herself ready..why?Rev. 3:16..who's Jesus talking 2

  • @777endtimesnow Simple. You either trust in Faith that Jesus keeps His promises or you don't. If you try to earn your salvation with works you call Jesus a liar. Works done by HIM thru you are rewarded. Works you think is a good thing are not! Simple as that. Who is worthy to escape? Only those born again in faith! Thats the whole simple enough for a child deal! Faith + Works is another gospel!

  • I don't think that the Tribulation is a time of the wrath of God. It's a tribulation for us Christians. The wrath of God will occur after the Tribulation, that's why we are raptured out of here. There must be a falling away of the Church and the anti-Christ must appear before we are raptured. "Falling away" does not refer to the Rapture, but to apostacy.

  • @PirateXzibit You don't think the last 2000 years has been a tribulation time for Christians? The falling away has already happened. They call themselves catholics and Mormons and every other name under the sun but they are not born again! The AC does not appear until after we are gone. He is here now but not as the man of peace who stops the war (Psalms 83). Are you born again in Faith only? Not faith + works!

  • @PirateXzibit Amen!

  • Many Blessings Scottie!!! Looking forward to another video!!! Much love, encouragement, and hugs to you!!

    -Jerrilyn

  • I only have one question. IF the pre-trib rapture does NOT happen and we go through a tribulation period will you be ready? Mentally, spiritually, and physically.

  • @paulgem123 Thats like saying will we be ok if the sun never comes up again. The sun shall rise and Jesus is as good as His word! Why not just believe Him?

  • @Billthesheepdog Not really the pre-trib rapture was not even known before the 1800's. So noit is not anything like the sun coming up again......Why not study the origins of the pre-trib rapture out?

  • @paulgem123 Not known before the 1800's? Who are you listening to? Paul the Apostle spoke about it! Listen to the bible !

  • @Billthesheepdog Yup. We will go through the tribulation

  • @paulgem123 If you are not born again you will. I will not!

  • @Billthesheepdog I am born again. What is you are wrong? I know you think that you are not but WHAT IF YOU ARE? Like I said this doctrine has only been around since the 1800's. This is historically documented. You can ignore it and you probably will but it doesn't change the facts. There are three theories Pre-Mid-Post if you ignore any of these possibilities you are just being lazy to do the research.

  • @paulgem123 Justification by faith only came around int he middle ages when Luther taught it, or did it exist prior to that supressed by the catholic church? I think the latter. The rapture was taught back int he day, you can easily google or investigate that but like justification by faith it was another doctrine supressed by Rome because it takes away their power, the power of control, purgatory, paying indulgences etc etc, if believers are going to be caught up to heaven, they need not pay.

  • @tommy3lions

    Do you have pre-rome sources that say that a pre-trib rapture was believed back then? I've seen certain early writings where people tried to glean that teaching from, but further research shows that the writer didn't mean what it sounded like because further study of their writings showed they believed we'd face it.

  • @Myhopeisinhim Personally I go by what I see in the scrips mate, not sure what you mean by pre rome, what do you think of as rome mate? Cheers

  • @tommy3lions

    You mentioned that you believe the pre-trib doctrine was taught before but then suppressed by Rome. I'm curious as to know where you heard that from.

  • @Myhopeisinhim Aaah with ya mate, sorry lost me marbles briefly.Yeah geez, to me its the scrips which testify of 2 differing comings somewhat like the scrips give 2 seperate comings to the jews as messiah but they only saw the conquering king one not the suffering servant one, but there are early writings such as ephream the syrian as an example of early reference, you have to remember a rapture would cancel out popish doctrine so a rc kingdom such as europe would hide it like faith alone etc

  • @tommy3lions

    Thanks for referencing the two comings of the Messiah:) that proves my exact point. There are two comings. First he would come as a lamb and die upon the cross. That is the one the people kept missing. The one that they were thinking of is when he would come as a lion of Judah and free them from their enemies.

    Those are the two comings of the messiah. The first, and now we are waiting for the second when he'll come and destroy his enemies and rescue his people.

  • @Myhopeisinhim ha ha, like what ya did there mate, your a cheeky charlie aren't ya?

  • @tommy3lions

    Hehe, I suppose I can be sometimes*lol*

  • @Myhopeisinhim ;-) Lord bless ya mate.

  • People often misuse Ephraem in an attempt to prove that the early church taught pre-trib, especially as there is no direct reference in scripture to a pre-trib rapture.

    Did you know that Ephraem also taught that the only event that was imminent was the rise of the wicked one? If one continues to read his sermon you can see that the confusion that is mentioned in the earlier part of his writing is the confusion that occurrs upon his return. It's not a pre-trib reference.

  • I would encourage you to read his sermon in full instead of just taking a small portion to try and prove what not even the bible says.

  • Part 3.I'm not writing any of this to stir things up (or say Scott is wrong...he seemingly nailed it on feast of trumpets, as we were also convinced would be the timing) but based on our understanding,we don't have a full 7 yrs. left.EVERYBODY PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT...will bring insight to confusion about timing of things. choicesforlivingdotcom/spirit/­part3/rapture.htm This is not based on works,but where each individual Christian is at....Bride vs.the church+outcome of ones' standing

  • Part 2. Israel already had two 70yr. grace periods to embrace their Messiah b4 they were judged.So, fig tree parable+last grace period+incorrect length of generation, all bring us to 2018! Relax guys...my best friend had all this knowledge+revelation,I'm just a messenger.So seeing as we're (or were)pre-trib,we're both scratching our heads!!! So when dates are used+scripture righly divided,it's like?? We're convinced it will be soon,b4 wrath is poured out,but not a complete 7 yrs. of trib.period!

  • I'm puzzled myself why we're still here.We are actually already in the 70th wk.because the fig tree parable brings us to 2018(as others pointed out.)God in His infinite wisdom had the "dates work out"even if misinterpreted.1948-Israel became a nation-psalms says 70 yrs. for a generation,but fig tree parable(when read closely)refers to growth-1967 tripled as a nation.Matthew1 provides time of generation which is 51.5yrs.either works.Also Israel is now given final 70 yr. grace period.1948+70=2018

  • love your songs brother....Blood Moon Rising.....awesome!

  • With respect, I strongly disagree. I also have studied this very deeply for many years. I believed and taught pre-trib. My conclusion now is that the Bible does not support this. In my humble opinion, most pre-trib teachers are very badly confusing the word TRIBULATION with the word WRATH. It is not the same thing. I promise you that God's wrath, that is mentioned in Revelation, will not take years. With respect and best wishes - mike

  • @disciplemike1 Amen my brother! i use to be in the pre-trib. camp. because that was just the common belief of a great majority of protestant believers. But when i started reading "THE APOSTOLIC FATHERS",Letters that "Ignatius",and Polycarp. They counted it of the UTMOST GLORY,AND HONOR TO DIE A MARTYR FOR JESUS! This just completely blew my mind. Because most of all these pre-tribers'. Seem to think it to be a curse,and horrible to think they may have to do the same! Makes me wonder...

  • thank you so much brother that clarifies so much for me, Ive been having so many troubles with this, thank you god bless!!!!

  • It will all be so clear afterwards. Great presentation. God bless you in Jesus' name.

  • mid trb rapture

  • it seems to me the anti christ will show befor rapture .

  • Titus 2:11-13 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.....

    The BLESSED HOPE is the rapture. What HOPE is there in a post-trib rapture?

  • @firecharger It is this kind of mentality that will put immature Christians at risk of apostacizing the faith when they recognize that trib is here, yet no rapture. Our blessed hope is not defined as avoiding persecution. Good grief. Our blessed hope is in everlasting life w/Yeshua, despite what we have endured on earth! Do a word search on hope and see how often it occurs in scripture w/tribulation. We are 5 years from the next Jubilee, prepare spiritually bc trib is coming & we will be here.

  • @InformedTexasVoter Amen, Amen, and Amen

  • Thank you very much for this tape.Now I understand.You are a great teacher.God bless you!!!!! :)

  • This has to be the best Pre-Trib Video i have ever seen. Well done !!!

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  • Thanks!!!

    Concerning the beginning of the tribulation though is found right here

    Daniel 11:45 "And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him."

    This was just fulfilled when Obama put his troops in Israel.

    If you read on to Daniel 12 He makes it clear Michael is going to stand up and then there will be trouble such as never been. But those who are written in the book shall be delivered.

  • Thanks for the encouragement Brother Scottie.  Well done, and looking forward to meeting you with Jesus soon!

  • I always thought that the we would be delivered from this place when God's wrath was to pour out on the earth! Shared this with my 15 year old daughter!! Thanks Scottie for spreading the gospel and getting the truth out! Holy is the lamb that was slain! Holy is he! Maranatha!

  • And as it awaits men TO DIE ONCE and after this the judgment, so also the Messiah,having  been offered once to bear the sins of many,shall appear a SECOND time, apart from sin,to those waiting for Him unto deliverance. Ibrim/Hebrews 9:27-28

    BLESSED and SET APART is the one having part in the FIRST RESURRECTION. The second death possesses no authority over these, but THEY shall be priests of Elohim and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. Revelation 20:6 'The Scriptures'

  • excellent video...great job presenting the Word.

  • Thank you Scottie, so encouraging love your videos. We need to stand strong and keep running the race just our beloved Paul did. My fellow watchers on the wall I pray for you all, Scott and fellow watchers something that I watched that was very interesting, Check this out on you tube: JONATHAN CAHN interview with SID ROTH, THE HARBINGER. It it 2 parts but as Scott says we are in that time line, this video will add to that thought. All praise to our Father in Heaven and Jesus our Groom.

  • GREAT video. Well done eternalrhythmflow...ill be seeing you soon :)

  • having met the spirit of christ is a little church in 1961, and am almost 60 years old now, for the life of me i cannot understand why folks spend so much time dissecting this rapture/trib thing. can you not hope for the best and plan for the worst? a handful of scriptures and you have to come to a settled conclusion? you , sir, are not important enough to make these conclusions. he;s coming alright, when you die and expect him he will be there.

  • @jamesraymondsmith Dear Brother in Christ, Jesus already paid the price as we both know, I don't think our bridegroom wants his church whom he laid his life down for to go through wrath, we are grafted into the vine therefore as our Jewish brothers and sisters, God in his mercy will protect his children I believe. And if for some reason we have to go through trials, our Savior will be standing with us. All praise to our Savior Jesus, your sister in Faith.

  • Another question: You say the church has been raptured in the first 3 chapters of Revelation, however the 144,000 aren't sealed until chapter 7. These are all Israelites, 12,000 from each tribe, God's chosen people. Why are they not raptured early on with everyone else? They seem to be pretty valuable to The Most High God.

  • You also seem to make it as if the God of Israel would not want us to go through hardship to prove our faith. He allowed his own son to go through torments to show the rest of us what we must be prepared to face if we uphold his word and keep the faith. In Matthew 13, the parable of the sower, one of the seeds hears the word, but doesn't hold to it when tribulation comes because of the word. How can you truly prove your faith without being tested?

  • This video gives me many questions. First, where did this term Rapture even come from? It's not in the Bible at all. The conspiracy theorist in me questions the Rapture since it's being pushed by the same people who are pushing Pagan teachings and traditions in mainstream Christianity (i.e. Christmas). Also, I would like to know where I can go in the Bible to see that the "last trump" in 1 Corinthians is referring to something other than the one in Revelation.

  • (Continued) If anyone here wants to know the BIBLICAL TRUTH about the Rapture, you can look at the video series called "The Pre-Tribulation Rapture EXPOSED" via my channel page. Pre-Trib Rapture is an end times' DOCTRINE OF DEMONS which takes verses out of context and TWISTS the Scriptures, just as the above video did with 1 Thess 4:18 - DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIES! Every Pre-Trib LIE can be EXPOSED by the LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE. God wants us to know His TRUTH!

  • If you Pre-tribbers would KEEP VERSES IN CONTEXT, then you would know that 1 Thess 4:18 has nothing to do with "COMFORT" about a Pre-Trib Rapture! Go back to the SUBJECT of this passage 5 verses earlier! Paul says he doesn't want YOU to be IGNORANT, brother, CONCERNING those who have PREVIOUSLY DIED, lest they should SORROW over their departed loved ones. The COMFORT is that their loved ones in Christ will RISE FIRST, that they will be RESURRECTED, and all believers will be TOGETHER with Christ.

  • im back to Jesus and realy hold him dear ..when Jesus said he died for oure sins i took his word for granted ..im a sinner and i love life ..i have a good heart but make sins everyday its my way of life :)

  • WONDERFUL

    Thank you sooo much brother Scott

    God bless you in Yeshua's name

  • Wow, Scott, thank you! God has blessed you will some wonderful teaching! So exciting to see other brothers and sisters....."ON FIRE" for God, and the soon return of our Lord, Jesus! We will not relent!!

  • Crazy video Scotty! me and my brother in Christ both watched this and told each other about it because it has so much truth and wisdom in it! even though im 16 and he is 15 we love hearing about this and it only makes us more eager for the rapture! much love from Australia!

  • Very good timeline but you didn't show the witness that will be here on there???

  • God bless this video. I have used the scriptures you found to back up pre-trib in my discussion forms on facebook. Thank you Scottie you kick ass!!!!!

  • Also Scott...my brother, I have two vital pieces to your puzzle on this message to the watchers. Pm me.

  • The Antichrist makes war with the Tribulation saints...and OVERCOMES them.

    Revelation 13:7:

    And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

  • @truthtracker2011 Christ said, upon this rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell shall NOT prevail against it.....the saints in Revelations are Israel. Not the Church. Christ is not a liar. The 7 years are JACOBS trouble, not the bride of Christ. The entire tribulation is for the salvation of Isreal after the closing of the time of the Gentiles.

  • Know this. Once the Tribulation begins...NO raptures will take place....and ONLY the nation of Israel will be protected by Yah,just as the Church is today by Grace.

  • @truthtracker2011 YAH will protect Yasarel. It is the only called out nation. Peace

  • There are no third chances. There is a group going up for the marriage supper (pretrib) the next group is for the actual marriage (Israel). In between these... those who were not ready and looking to meet him at the rapture will come up in droves through tribulation.

  • brother you look different without your beard