Ok, first off, this is NOT thew USAF at all -- it is the United States of America NAVAL ACADEMY. Second, this is NOT a "dual" (nor is it a duel) -- it is an example of some fairly good Close Order Sword Drill.
And third, if any of you people claiming that either of these two NAVAL CADETS "suxed" just because they happen to have dropped their sword while performing this Sword Drill - give it a try for yourself. Be sure to put the video here for everyone to see just how much YOU "suxed" at it.
@anberlene If that "calvery" saber you "spun" weighed 12 pounds, it should have been more than obvious that it was a FAKE. I have handled and swung REAL "Viking" broadswords, REAL Mediaeval Scottish "claymores", REAL Swiss zweihander Landesknecht swords -- and I have NEVER found any "calvery" saber to come even close to the 10-15 pounds that these swords can weigh. Even my hand-forged Celtic leaf-blade battle sword weighs less than THREE pounds -- and I have used it to split firewood!
@jkmarshall001 This isn't USAF sword drill -- it's U.S NAVAL ACADEMY. U.S. Air Force Dress Uniforms are BLUE -- not white. Those two doing the sword drill are Midshipmen.
@archerdude001 I'm aware of the uniform colors, thank you, though. The title of the video says USAF (I'm now aware that it is mis-titled) and I took it as a specialized ROTC uniform. My comments, however, still stand.
@DrillMasterTraining From "your" original comment: "The cadets'' routine was at least thought out, but could have been executed much better. There is a lack of training in the displayed routine. Practice, practice, practice." Hmm..."lack of training"... They obviously had plenty of training to be able to do what they did, or they would not have been able to do it even as well as they did. Perhaps you meant "lack of perfection".
@archerdude001 Not enough training to pull off the performance. I have a suggestion, I've written an article on judging military drill, I cannot post web links here but I would like to send the link to you in a message, maybe from the article you may see what I'm talking about.
In any event I will go into further detail: there is a lack of perfection, sure, but that does not describe the situation; I am not talking solely about perfection, I'm talking about training and... more:
@archerdude001 2. the display of training. When a performer trains, a qualified judge can tell by what is displayed in the performance and the reverse is also true.
The cadets display training to a certain point and no further. This performance shows a lack of "comfort" with the chosen piece of equipment: fumbles and drops occur as you can see. My comments are not meant to tear down, but to build up. It is nothing personal, only comments on a performance so that the... more:
@DrillMasterTraining No, I know what training is and what it means. The one who dropped his sword had training - but not nearly enough PRACTICE. Likely comfortable with the routine, but not doing it with another, as with many dance routines. I have seen THAT many times. What these cadets did is not so much different from any choreographed dance routine - they are simply "dancing" with their swords.
@archerdude001 Nice try, but I know exactly what you are talking about. I've been training and judging in the marching arts for many years. You've been nothing but defensive and have attacked the posters here. You seem to have taken this personally and have come from a know-it-all stance.
I would suggest asking questions to understand what another is saying rather than trying to beat your point into someone else.
@DrillMasterTraining I have attacked others here, eh? Well, I'm not the one pointing fingers and calling others a know-it-all. Good try, though. Buh-bye!!
@DrillMasterTraining I know that even Barishnikov fumbled in his dancing in his early days, before he had practiced certain moves enough. But when you fumble, is it the training or the trainee which is at fault? Even the best training available will never help someone who fails to PRACTICE.
@Jags05 USAF Academy doesn't use sabres, nor does the USN Academy. Please do some more research. Plus, if anyone were to try doing with a SABRE what these were doing with their SWORDS, they would definitely break at least some fingers -- when they get caught in the hand guard.
OMG the drops are too much!
florestiner12312 1 month ago
Ok, first off, this is NOT thew USAF at all -- it is the United States of America NAVAL ACADEMY. Second, this is NOT a "dual" (nor is it a duel) -- it is an example of some fairly good Close Order Sword Drill.
And third, if any of you people claiming that either of these two NAVAL CADETS "suxed" just because they happen to have dropped their sword while performing this Sword Drill - give it a try for yourself. Be sure to put the video here for everyone to see just how much YOU "suxed" at it.
archerdude001 2 months ago
This dual suxed. hell he dropped it more times than i could count!!
rudeboy7464 2 years ago
where is the dual? They look like gay robotic tin soldiers.
No wonder the mice in the nutcracker sweet kicked their asses
NewZealfighter 2 years ago
gay
ThisIsWorthOneDollar 2 years ago
wow gay, stick to rifles guys.
Fortis2010 2 years ago
this is the easy stuff, try spinning a 12 pound calvery saber, those things will snap your wrist, its happened to me
anberlene 3 years ago
Neither the Army/AF officer M1902, nor the 1840 USMC sword weigh anywhere near 12 pounds. Maybe you should work on strengthening your wrist, champ.
eazyrider17 2 years ago 4
@anberlene no such thing
TheDoggyProductions 1 year ago
@anberlene no real sword was anywhere near 12 pounds blades of this type often were closer to 12 ounces
lockbreak12 1 year ago
@anberlene cool story bro
AmericanRifleSpinner 7 months ago
@anberlene If that "calvery" saber you "spun" weighed 12 pounds, it should have been more than obvious that it was a FAKE. I have handled and swung REAL "Viking" broadswords, REAL Mediaeval Scottish "claymores", REAL Swiss zweihander Landesknecht swords -- and I have NEVER found any "calvery" saber to come even close to the 10-15 pounds that these swords can weigh. Even my hand-forged Celtic leaf-blade battle sword weighs less than THREE pounds -- and I have used it to split firewood!
archerdude001 2 months ago
damn! i never heard of sword spinning lol thats hot but uhh not for me i'll stick to rifles
R0TCKeyznPercussi0n 3 years ago
This tandem performance is NOT with sabers, it's with swords. The AF does not use sabers (curved blade), they've only used swords (straight blade).
The cadets' routine was at least thought out, but could have been executed much better. There is a lack of training in the displayed routine.
Practice, practice, practice.
DrillMaster
jkmarshall001 3 years ago
@jkmarshall001 This isn't USAF sword drill -- it's U.S NAVAL ACADEMY. U.S. Air Force Dress Uniforms are BLUE -- not white. Those two doing the sword drill are Midshipmen.
archerdude001 2 months ago
@archerdude001 I'm aware of the uniform colors, thank you, though. The title of the video says USAF (I'm now aware that it is mis-titled) and I took it as a specialized ROTC uniform. My comments, however, still stand.
DrillMaster
DrillMasterTraining 2 months ago
@DrillMasterTraining From "your" original comment: "The cadets'' routine was at least thought out, but could have been executed much better. There is a lack of training in the displayed routine. Practice, practice, practice." Hmm..."lack of training"... They obviously had plenty of training to be able to do what they did, or they would not have been able to do it even as well as they did. Perhaps you meant "lack of perfection".
archerdude001 2 months ago
@archerdude001 Not enough training to pull off the performance. I have a suggestion, I've written an article on judging military drill, I cannot post web links here but I would like to send the link to you in a message, maybe from the article you may see what I'm talking about.
In any event I will go into further detail: there is a lack of perfection, sure, but that does not describe the situation; I am not talking solely about perfection, I'm talking about training and... more:
DrillMasterTraining 2 months ago
@archerdude001 2. the display of training. When a performer trains, a qualified judge can tell by what is displayed in the performance and the reverse is also true.
The cadets display training to a certain point and no further. This performance shows a lack of "comfort" with the chosen piece of equipment: fumbles and drops occur as you can see. My comments are not meant to tear down, but to build up. It is nothing personal, only comments on a performance so that the... more:
DrillMasterTraining 2 months ago
@archerdude001 3. cadets and others reading my comments may understand and possibly grow, even though my words were very few.
If you permit me, I will send the links or you can search Squidoo for DrillMaster.
DrillMaster
TheDrillMaster (dot) org
DrillMasterTraining 2 months ago
@DrillMasterTraining No, I know what training is and what it means. The one who dropped his sword had training - but not nearly enough PRACTICE. Likely comfortable with the routine, but not doing it with another, as with many dance routines. I have seen THAT many times. What these cadets did is not so much different from any choreographed dance routine - they are simply "dancing" with their swords.
archerdude001 2 months ago
@archerdude001 You've missed what I was talking about. Too bad.
Take care,
DrillMaster
DrillMasterTraining 2 months ago
@DrillMasterTraining And you've missed what I am talking about. Too bad.
archerdude001 2 months ago
@archerdude001 Nice try, but I know exactly what you are talking about. I've been training and judging in the marching arts for many years. You've been nothing but defensive and have attacked the posters here. You seem to have taken this personally and have come from a know-it-all stance.
I would suggest asking questions to understand what another is saying rather than trying to beat your point into someone else.
DrillMasterTraining 2 months ago
@DrillMasterTraining I have attacked others here, eh? Well, I'm not the one pointing fingers and calling others a know-it-all. Good try, though. Buh-bye!!
archerdude001 2 months ago
@DrillMasterTraining I know that even Barishnikov fumbled in his dancing in his early days, before he had practiced certain moves enough. But when you fumble, is it the training or the trainee which is at fault? Even the best training available will never help someone who fails to PRACTICE.
archerdude001 2 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This is not even a sword dual. The army fucks old traditions up. I'm giving this video a fucking zero.
Vordum24 4 years ago
What does the Army have to do with this XD?
jkmarshall001 3 years ago
@Vordum24 Since you cannot tell the difference between the Army and the NAVY -- you get a big fat zero as well.
archerdude001 2 months ago
Ya, I do have to say, spinnin a sabre is hard, i tried it one day after drill practice for the heck of it and almost broke a sabre.
JMHSDRILL 4 years ago
wanna see exhibition performances for events? come and see the other vids that I have posted about the USAFA Sabre Drill Team.
Jags05 4 years ago
@Jags05 USAF Academy doesn't use sabres, nor does the USN Academy. Please do some more research. Plus, if anyone were to try doing with a SABRE what these were doing with their SWORDS, they would definitely break at least some fingers -- when they get caught in the hand guard.
archerdude001 2 months ago
That looked pretty cool, but two drops is a lot of penalties...
chronoserpent 4 years ago
lol
vacationxinxhell 4 years ago
Holy jesus, this is the AIR FORCE ACADEMY? They suck.
PushyLittleKid 5 years ago
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
fliparsenal 5 years ago
looks better in a team format
stooopud 5 years ago
I dont even think dropping the sabre was a foul up, i mean, comon, the balance on a sabre is different from a 1903. kudos to you guys.
Gnelo89 5 years ago
@Gnelo89 Too bad they weren't sabres -- they were SWORDS. Yes, in the Military there is a very huge difference.
archerdude001 2 months ago
Very cool idea...
fireangeldte 5 years ago
Just wow....
AndrewDotExe 5 years ago