@FerdinandMagellan08 The drain looks very similar to one if that's what you're referring to, but it's an exact clone of the Cadet of the same time period except for the exterior design.
I have this style in 3 colors: seafoam green, butter yellow, and silver/gray. It's American Standard #4033. Got them off of craigslist. These heavy-duty toilets have character, unlike the boring 1.6 gallon toilets sold in the stores today.
That has a green logo on it. The chain on the flapper needs adjusting. It also has a replacement handle, which is probably why the orginal is gone from holding it down so much. :)
The toilet is also bone color. The insides of the tank have been replaced with a fluidmaster fill valve and new flapper. The chain was fine it seemed, so I don't know why I had to hold down the handle.
It needs to be adjusted...If you can, take all the slack out of the chain links and re-connect to the holes in the handle part to the furthest to the left. See what happens. :)
You don't need to hold the handle so long actually. To save water and create the true siphonic action, you can release it as soon as the vortex forms in the water and the toilet starts sucking. Just my 2 cents :)
Well potentially, since this one didn't have a really strong flush to begin with. But it is true that the older toilets (better ones imho compared to today's toilets) got most of their power from siphonic/suction action. These days, the toilets mostly just rush to force everything out of the bowl as fast as possible and it just isn't the same, even though it might save some water. I think the 3.5 gpf toilets were the happy medium and shouldn't have been replaced. But oh well lol.
I agree. Most of the 3.5s were pretty good toilets and they should still be made in the USA. Maybe I'll move to Canada where they still sell them lol.
The Compact traveled the same path as Cadet. Around 1959-60, flushing action became more aggressive just like Cadet in the same time period. Blended jet trapway became a round-jet trapway.
This is an American Standard COMPACT model. It was call the Compact. Like the Cadet with the same trapway and flushing action. Different styling and tank.
The Compact was a deluxe or upscale toilet a little more expensive than Cadet. Yet internally - same toilet. I've seen only very few Compacts in my travels through the years. In the 1960s, the Compact became a different toilet entirely. Extremely rare toilet.
This couldn't possibly be a Cadet, let alone one from 1956, otherwise it would look identical to my Cadet as that generation of mine first came out in 1954.
Everything about it looks different from mine, the tank is way different, the bowl too. the bowl on mine has a curved rim this one has sharp corners like a modern toilet, also the footprint pattern is different on the bowl.
Yeah I see what you mean after I watched your video of your Cadet. The bowl is also shaped differently on the outside. Maybe the Cadet went through a design change within the 56-59 period? Or perhaps this is a variation on the Cadet that we didn't know about until now.
No, my Cadet did not go through any design changes in that time period, the generation of Cadet's like mine were at the time last redesigned in 1954. Even the pre 1954 Cadet had a large resemblance to the 1954-1961 Cadet.
Honestly I'm not sure what model that particular toilet is in your video but I don't think there was another Cadet variation.
It seems like that this would be a 1950's version of the Plebe.
FerdinandMagellan08 1 year ago
@FerdinandMagellan08 The drain looks very similar to one if that's what you're referring to, but it's an exact clone of the Cadet of the same time period except for the exterior design.
sanders8323 1 year ago
I have this style in 3 colors: seafoam green, butter yellow, and silver/gray. It's American Standard #4033. Got them off of craigslist. These heavy-duty toilets have character, unlike the boring 1.6 gallon toilets sold in the stores today.
sivlesky 2 years ago
@sivlesky Cool. This toilet here was actually a grayish color. And they do have more character I agree!
sanders8323 2 years ago
Could you do a vid of them.
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
Perhaps I'll get around to it someday. Cheers!
sivlesky 2 years ago
OK :)
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
@sivlesky I'd like to see your seafoam green one, to compare it against the Cadet I used to have.
andrewps84 11 months ago
This is basicly a cadet.
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
Yeah it is, but the tank, base, and outside of the bowl are all different.
sanders8323 2 years ago
I just figure its got an oval drain so I just slap cadet on it.
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
Yeah that's what I thought too.
sanders8323 2 years ago
That has a green logo on it. The chain on the flapper needs adjusting. It also has a replacement handle, which is probably why the orginal is gone from holding it down so much. :)
Landaux 2 years ago
The toilet is also bone color. The insides of the tank have been replaced with a fluidmaster fill valve and new flapper. The chain was fine it seemed, so I don't know why I had to hold down the handle.
sanders8323 2 years ago
It needs to be adjusted...If you can, take all the slack out of the chain links and re-connect to the holes in the handle part to the furthest to the left. See what happens. :)
Landaux 2 years ago
You don't need to hold the handle so long actually. To save water and create the true siphonic action, you can release it as soon as the vortex forms in the water and the toilet starts sucking. Just my 2 cents :)
flushboyaz 2 years ago
That's true, but then things would probably get left behind in the bowl. It'd probably be OK for #1 but not #2.
sanders8323 2 years ago
Well potentially, since this one didn't have a really strong flush to begin with. But it is true that the older toilets (better ones imho compared to today's toilets) got most of their power from siphonic/suction action. These days, the toilets mostly just rush to force everything out of the bowl as fast as possible and it just isn't the same, even though it might save some water. I think the 3.5 gpf toilets were the happy medium and shouldn't have been replaced. But oh well lol.
flushboyaz 2 years ago
I agree. Most of the 3.5s were pretty good toilets and they should still be made in the USA. Maybe I'll move to Canada where they still sell them lol.
sanders8323 2 years ago
At my church they have american standard cadet.
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
An older one?
sanders8323 2 years ago
A 1969 american standard cadet.
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
get some video of them! :)
flushboyaz 2 years ago
Im going to church on thursday (thanksgiving) and ill film it. And Ill also do a vid of my aunts black pegasus toilet.
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
Also its a little dark in the church bathroom. But ill turn on my cam light
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
You've prob herd of the church. The name of the church is st. odilia catholic on paseo del norte in tucson.
bakedpotato1678 2 years ago
The Compact traveled the same path as Cadet. Around 1959-60, flushing action became more aggressive just like Cadet in the same time period. Blended jet trapway became a round-jet trapway.
thesmart67 2 years ago
This is an American Standard COMPACT model. It was call the Compact. Like the Cadet with the same trapway and flushing action. Different styling and tank.
thesmart67 2 years ago
Thank you!
sanders8323 2 years ago
The Compact was a deluxe or upscale toilet a little more expensive than Cadet. Yet internally - same toilet. I've seen only very few Compacts in my travels through the years. In the 1960s, the Compact became a different toilet entirely. Extremely rare toilet.
thesmart67 2 years ago
This couldn't possibly be a Cadet, let alone one from 1956, otherwise it would look identical to my Cadet as that generation of mine first came out in 1954.
gusherb94 2 years ago
It was made in '56 it says in the tank. How does it look different from yours?
sanders8323 2 years ago
Everything about it looks different from mine, the tank is way different, the bowl too. the bowl on mine has a curved rim this one has sharp corners like a modern toilet, also the footprint pattern is different on the bowl.
gusherb94 2 years ago
Yeah I see what you mean after I watched your video of your Cadet. The bowl is also shaped differently on the outside. Maybe the Cadet went through a design change within the 56-59 period? Or perhaps this is a variation on the Cadet that we didn't know about until now.
sanders8323 2 years ago
No, my Cadet did not go through any design changes in that time period, the generation of Cadet's like mine were at the time last redesigned in 1954. Even the pre 1954 Cadet had a large resemblance to the 1954-1961 Cadet.
Honestly I'm not sure what model that particular toilet is in your video but I don't think there was another Cadet variation.
BTW what tells you this toilet is a Cadet?
gusherb94 2 years ago
I thought it was a Cadet because the inside of the bowl looks just like the first Cadets made.
sanders8323 2 years ago