why did they drop this plot? seriously, after a scene like that, there is no mention of Bens obsession over Juliet at all. he doesn't even ask if she's still alive in later seasons. talk about discontinuity.
@Aellla They don't meet up. Ben spends rest of the time in Season 4 either off island or with Locke away from her. Season 5 she helps save him as a kid but she's in the past and he's 30 years ahead of her, nobody to ask. Then she dies at the start of Season 6 and he's dealing with the fact his whole life was a set-up to kill Jacob by Smokey.
@MultiFeral But still, he shows so much passion about her (I'm not saying it's love, but he is feeling some strong emotion towards her) and then nothing? Really, he didn't even ASK about her when there was an occasion and he could do that during the 5th season, or at least show concern. It's not about him not having time to worry about Juliet, it's lousy writing (as much as I love Lost).
@Aellla Maybe he would have once back on the island but then he was dealing with the fact that a guy he killed came back fom the dead to take over the Others from him or so he thought. And he was threatend by the Monster looking like the girl he considered the daughter that he let die. And he didn't know about time travel, he left that to Eloise. He did tell "Locke" he would help him if he needed Jacob to get bsavk to his people. Maybe he would have later tried Juliet if he saw her, but he busy
@MultiFeral And at the end of the series? If he at last said "sorry" to her it would be somehow resolved(he had time then). Really, don't make excuses for the writers, if they wanted to see this through they would've written few things differently. They could show him confused when they met the other group, then ask someone what happened with Juliet, and later they could have showed him mulling over it looking sad, all of that in one episode. Not so hard, is it?
@Aellla Season 5 sort of brought this in when jack was starting to leave things to fate and a lot of people didn't exactly like Juliet/Sawyer (Skaters in particualr) it showed Juliet has a noble haert cause even though he emotionally tortured her with her sister and nephew and seeing all the would-be mothers and unborn babies die, she still wouldn't let him die as a kid like Sayid tried to do.
@Aellla Putting it on-island in Season 6 would bring Sawyer into it which the writers never put those two together until the finale and having it come up them wouldn't flow with the focus or pace of the finale. Sideways Juliet had an illusion son by Jack after not meeting her nephew,watching her those people die with their unborn babies, and the hints she died on the island pregnant by James. Th writers chose to focus on Ben aplogizing to Locke, and saying he wil work on aplogizing to Alex,
@Aellla Danielle, etc. Juliet found happiness with Sawyer and once she finally got to expirence motherhood, so she had no need for the Sideways, she had no need to stick around. She had just let the issues with him go. Could the writers have expanded on that? Oh yeah, but they chose not too, same with stuff like Annie. Who turned out to be only to prove Ben could love and has a trace of a heart when we are first getting to know him as the evil Others's leader and Juliet looked like dead mommy.
Ok, about his pansy walk up the hill.... He IS supposed to have a giant tumor on his spine. That might cause a LITTLE pain walking uphill. I thought it was a brilliant addition on Emerson's part. (Although I do giggle every time I see it!) :D
yes he loves her but in a way he doesn't know how to love her because (as far as we know maybe besides annie) he doesn't have much experience with women.
Who could look more like Juliet than Juliet? Little kid Ben remembers Juliet treating him after the gunshot and falls for her when she comes back when he's an adult.
But Richard said he wouldn't remember anything, and if he said anything I would think he meant anything, not some things with a few fleeting memories still in tact. But I don't know, we don't really even know the full extent of what he meant by that anyway, would he just forget his whole childhood, or that one specific incident, would he not remember past Juliet and the others getting there, who knows really?
I think that what makes her so awesome. She is so calm in almost every situation. The only times I remember her actually freaking out is when she was about to fall down the hole and when Charles Widmore wanted to chop her hands off.
All because he forgets everything (or is about to), it doesn't mean he's not going to meet Juliet again. We've still got...a lot more to see. I have a feeling lil Ben will see Juliet again.
I still see this scene and find Ben creepy. xD Even though I totally think they'd be an odd yet acceptable couple. EVEN THE BENRY NEEDS LOVE.
"Well how bout that" this totally make sense that Ben wasn't excited, because Jack in the Dharma days didn't help little Ben when he was shot by Sayid. Grown up Ben knew Jack wasn't going to help him that easily. which is why he did the things he did to force Jack into doing the surgery.
No, Harper says "you look just like her," in which she was referring to Ben's mother. In the season 3 episode "The Man Behind the Curtain," little Ben saw and talked to the apparition of his mother. That is why he took interest in Juliet.
@mscubana I think the "you look just like her" line was referring to Annie, the little girl he liked as a kid who gave him the wood carving, and not his mother. Either that or some other love interest we never saw when he was younger.
@TheAutumnEffect9 I thought Annie wasn't a blonde? I mean, it seemed more reasonable to connect Juliet with Ben's mother because they do seem somewhat similar, and Ben never knew his mother, so I thought that's why he took interest in Juliet.
What do you mean with "back than". I mean when Ben turned the island at the end of season 4. The consequence of this was, that he was expelled from the island and can never return (he says so). And I don't say that Ben has anything to do with making Jack an alcoholic (although you can not be 100% sure by Lost). He is not responsible for everything bad that happens. But the good things he does, even if they also help others directly, he always provides from it in some way.
Ben is only helping himself, even if it seems he doesn't. The only exception might be the act of (SPOILER!!!)
moving the island instead of tricking Locke into doing so (Locke didn't know you leave the island if you turn the wheel). But every thing else he done was to reach his own aims.
This is why LOST is such a great show. That body has served so many different purposes. It was found by Eko and Jin and it was horrifying then we saw how it first got their and was really action packed w/ Ana Lucia (RIP). Now here its this really great tool for sadness and creepy Benness! I luv this SHOW!
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I feel this was a weak episode, when has he ever shown any kind of feelings for another person, other than Alex? It was a forced love relationship... just done really poorly. I still love Lost, but I hope we don't get anymore Fluff episodes.
i would have grabbed bens face and kissed him after he said your mine. then we would have hot monkey sex in the jungle. and i would be putting my clothes back on, and he would have said "take as much time as you need" and then as he was walking up the hill, he would have tripped. perfect.
And in the first episode where Jack opens that door and the water comes flooding in Ben runs to safety and shuts the door right into her face, and not to mention killing Goodwin!
Whats funny is when she came back the the survivors camp, sawyer said "What the hell is she doiung here" and three years later he was planning on merrying her.
@Shalimar1 Ben was never/ has never been psychotic... The reasons are thus: natural genetic competition and tactical impartiality; Ben sees everything as Machiavellian tactics, he more or less lets people choose if he will kill them, not that his is necessarily right.
What you have there is a bias that prevents you from seeing the big picture; humans kill and history suggests its a natural part of life. But you don't have to choose it, there is alwayse free will, thats what tactics rob you of.
In his eyes, perhaps, but when you compare the woman from Ben's flashback episode in season 3, I think it's more like Juliet's the idolised version of what Ben believes to be his mother.
I must be twisted, because that "You're mine" line made every inch of my body purr. I don't know what it is about Ben, but he does it for me. Michael is a wonderful actor, and there is something in that icy stare... Definitely a flavor that suits my taste. A wonderful show. An amazing character. Yep. I have a crush. Just a little. LOL!
"Why? You're asking me why after everything I've done to get you here, after everything I've done to keep you here? How can you possibly not understand that you're mine? Take as much time as you need." Yeaaah i love Ben !Ben is the Best ! Michael Emerson is a very great actor !
haha yah... i agree, it's not that little... ben and juliet are my 2 fave characters, and seeing them together so much was great, but this is just plain creepy :)
oh yes, ben, I am yours...
repogirl56 2 months ago
She belongs to ben !
biggestbuccofan 7 months ago
"How could you possibly not understand!? that YOU ARE MINE!!!"
Another bad ass scene from Ben :D
MaximumPayne12 1 year ago
why did they drop this plot? seriously, after a scene like that, there is no mention of Bens obsession over Juliet at all. he doesn't even ask if she's still alive in later seasons. talk about discontinuity.
Aellla 1 year ago 5
@Aellla They don't meet up. Ben spends rest of the time in Season 4 either off island or with Locke away from her. Season 5 she helps save him as a kid but she's in the past and he's 30 years ahead of her, nobody to ask. Then she dies at the start of Season 6 and he's dealing with the fact his whole life was a set-up to kill Jacob by Smokey.
MultiFeral 1 year ago 2
@MultiFeral But still, he shows so much passion about her (I'm not saying it's love, but he is feeling some strong emotion towards her) and then nothing? Really, he didn't even ASK about her when there was an occasion and he could do that during the 5th season, or at least show concern. It's not about him not having time to worry about Juliet, it's lousy writing (as much as I love Lost).
Aellla 1 year ago
@Aellla Maybe he would have once back on the island but then he was dealing with the fact that a guy he killed came back fom the dead to take over the Others from him or so he thought. And he was threatend by the Monster looking like the girl he considered the daughter that he let die. And he didn't know about time travel, he left that to Eloise. He did tell "Locke" he would help him if he needed Jacob to get bsavk to his people. Maybe he would have later tried Juliet if he saw her, but he busy
MultiFeral 1 year ago
@MultiFeral And at the end of the series? If he at last said "sorry" to her it would be somehow resolved(he had time then). Really, don't make excuses for the writers, if they wanted to see this through they would've written few things differently. They could show him confused when they met the other group, then ask someone what happened with Juliet, and later they could have showed him mulling over it looking sad, all of that in one episode. Not so hard, is it?
Aellla 1 year ago
@Aellla Season 5 sort of brought this in when jack was starting to leave things to fate and a lot of people didn't exactly like Juliet/Sawyer (Skaters in particualr) it showed Juliet has a noble haert cause even though he emotionally tortured her with her sister and nephew and seeing all the would-be mothers and unborn babies die, she still wouldn't let him die as a kid like Sayid tried to do.
MultiFeral 1 year ago
@Aellla Putting it on-island in Season 6 would bring Sawyer into it which the writers never put those two together until the finale and having it come up them wouldn't flow with the focus or pace of the finale. Sideways Juliet had an illusion son by Jack after not meeting her nephew,watching her those people die with their unborn babies, and the hints she died on the island pregnant by James. Th writers chose to focus on Ben aplogizing to Locke, and saying he wil work on aplogizing to Alex,
MultiFeral 1 year ago
@Aellla Danielle, etc. Juliet found happiness with Sawyer and once she finally got to expirence motherhood, so she had no need for the Sideways, she had no need to stick around. She had just let the issues with him go. Could the writers have expanded on that? Oh yeah, but they chose not too, same with stuff like Annie. Who turned out to be only to prove Ben could love and has a trace of a heart when we are first getting to know him as the evil Others's leader and Juliet looked like dead mommy.
MultiFeral 1 year ago
ohhh, you're MY WIFE nowwwww.....
zionravescene 1 year ago
love how he did this line: "you're mine!"
kinda lion's roaring
likewolfcub 1 year ago 7
i've been wondering the same thing ! :D
Baller4everr1120 1 year ago
Juliet is so fuckin' hot!!!
davestheman83 1 year ago
@davestheman83 Language.
NintendoWarrior1 1 year ago
haha xD
bulve 1 year ago
ben very hostest and very nice
alejandravertigo 2 years ago 3
I love Ben.
1JanosAudron 2 years ago 6
Ok, about his pansy walk up the hill.... He IS supposed to have a giant tumor on his spine. That might cause a LITTLE pain walking uphill. I thought it was a brilliant addition on Emerson's part. (Although I do giggle every time I see it!) :D
mjaya89 2 years ago 11
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
HeartsMeNeko 2 years ago
Interrupting the current discussion:
OH I LOVE BEN.
I'd be his anyday. xD
'Nuff said.
>______>;
Love this clip, thanks for putting it up!
hotgimmicklove564 2 years ago 7
What is the point of him saying that? Does he love her?
wanpijid 2 years ago
yes he loves her but in a way he doesn't know how to love her because (as far as we know maybe besides annie) he doesn't have much experience with women.
Shutter2fly 2 years ago 5
in her flashbacks, i always end up feeling so bad for her...and it's always Ben's fault.
TotallyAwesomeSocks 2 years ago 4
Who could look more like Juliet than Juliet? Little kid Ben remembers Juliet treating him after the gunshot and falls for her when she comes back when he's an adult.
Besides, juliet looks nothing like Ben's mom
AidenAbette 2 years ago
Did you miss the episode where Richard brings him to the temple and says that afterwards he wouldn't remember anything?
pistan360 2 years ago 2
I beg to differ that he would forget some things but he would still have fleeting memories of other things, like Juliet for example.
Sephilocke 2 years ago
But Richard said he wouldn't remember anything, and if he said anything I would think he meant anything, not some things with a few fleeting memories still in tact. But I don't know, we don't really even know the full extent of what he meant by that anyway, would he just forget his whole childhood, or that one specific incident, would he not remember past Juliet and the others getting there, who knows really?
pistan360 2 years ago
Considering he went back to live with the Dharma Initiative for another 15 years, I'm gathering he remembered a minute amount.
Sephilocke 2 years ago
he meant he wouldn't remember getting shot. He remembered his whole child hood aside from getting shot. that was obvious
CreepNarrator 2 years ago
lmao
RAAWRRRRRRRRR 2 years ago
YOU'RE MINE!
technologic21 2 years ago
lmao take as much time as you need
TuxedoZombie 2 years ago
she's quite sexy for some reason. I guess its her calmness.
PikolUploader 2 years ago 6
I think that what makes her so awesome. She is so calm in almost every situation. The only times I remember her actually freaking out is when she was about to fall down the hole and when Charles Widmore wanted to chop her hands off.
macsApples 2 years ago 5
All because he forgets everything (or is about to), it doesn't mean he's not going to meet Juliet again. We've still got...a lot more to see. I have a feeling lil Ben will see Juliet again.
I still see this scene and find Ben creepy. xD Even though I totally think they'd be an odd yet acceptable couple. EVEN THE BENRY NEEDS LOVE.
purnipity 2 years ago
"Well how bout that" this totally make sense that Ben wasn't excited, because Jack in the Dharma days didn't help little Ben when he was shot by Sayid. Grown up Ben knew Jack wasn't going to help him that easily. which is why he did the things he did to force Jack into doing the surgery.
zexpow 2 years ago
except, according to Richard, Ben didn't remember that stuff when he got shot.
wrdonerd 2 years ago
that has always been my favorite scene the first time i saw it i almost cried but now each time i see it i lol come on he says"you are mine"
lostpedia8 3 years ago 2
he´s never gonna get her that way he acts ..she´s in love with jack and I think jacks the best thing that could happen to her.
Kellyrowan15 3 years ago
Even more than for her looks, he wants her for her mind, which is strange for a man to do.
moonlightof1982 3 years ago
do you think lost is gonna end before we find out if ben is a virgin?lol
igrivea 3 years ago 43
Juliet is such a poon tank
rmuth25 3 years ago
i think he likes juliet because she reminds him of annie.
wally815 3 years ago 4
Another thing, Juliet looks like his mother.. Someone else on LOST said, " she looks just like her."
steph
XrayhatchSteph 3 years ago
he likes juliet because he remembers her from when he was a child.
and that's why she says "you look just like you"
marcusinHD 2 years ago
No, Harper says "you look just like her," in which she was referring to Ben's mother. In the season 3 episode "The Man Behind the Curtain," little Ben saw and talked to the apparition of his mother. That is why he took interest in Juliet.
mscubana 2 years ago
are you suggesting that ben wants to have sex with his mother? and that's the only reason why he's attracted to juliette?
marcusinHD 2 years ago
Look up Oedipus complex
TheAnxiousMan 2 years ago 3
@mscubana I think the "you look just like her" line was referring to Annie, the little girl he liked as a kid who gave him the wood carving, and not his mother. Either that or some other love interest we never saw when he was younger.
TheAutumnEffect9 1 year ago
@TheAutumnEffect9 I thought Annie wasn't a blonde? I mean, it seemed more reasonable to connect Juliet with Ben's mother because they do seem somewhat similar, and Ben never knew his mother, so I thought that's why he took interest in Juliet.
mscubana 1 year ago
@mscubana Ahhh well that makes sense, too. I guess you could interpret it in many ways.
TheAutumnEffect9 1 year ago
What do you mean with "back than". I mean when Ben turned the island at the end of season 4. The consequence of this was, that he was expelled from the island and can never return (he says so). And I don't say that Ben has anything to do with making Jack an alcoholic (although you can not be 100% sure by Lost). He is not responsible for everything bad that happens. But the good things he does, even if they also help others directly, he always provides from it in some way.
Prowsky 3 years ago
Ben is only helping himself, even if it seems he doesn't. The only exception might be the act of (SPOILER!!!)
moving the island instead of tricking Locke into doing so (Locke didn't know you leave the island if you turn the wheel). But every thing else he done was to reach his own aims.
Prowsky 3 years ago
Yeah, but that's because everything Ben does is badass. XD
tommytonebender 3 years ago 22
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Ben is a sick controling weak man. What a creep.
COG777777 3 years ago
this part shows ben's little nerd in him, YOU'RE MINE, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MINE and such. haha
djtoocool4u 3 years ago
This is why LOST is such a great show. That body has served so many different purposes. It was found by Eko and Jin and it was horrifying then we saw how it first got their and was really action packed w/ Ana Lucia (RIP). Now here its this really great tool for sadness and creepy Benness! I luv this SHOW!
midge1509 3 years ago 7
Ben is an outstanding actor. Hopin he wins an Emmy for his performance in LOST. It would be well deserved.
CosmicLights 3 years ago 8
YOU'RE MINE!... take as much time as you need.
lol
sanitythroughmadness 3 years ago 3
HA! His walk up the hill is pretty gay...agreed.
emmablair52 3 years ago 3
ha ha yeah, tis v funny
penelopedesouza 3 years ago
lol look at his big gay walk up the hill
liamondo3 3 years ago 3
WOW!!!
This shows Ben at his freakiest!!!
BloomingSparrow 3 years ago 4
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I feel this was a weak episode, when has he ever shown any kind of feelings for another person, other than Alex? It was a forced love relationship... just done really poorly. I still love Lost, but I hope we don't get anymore Fluff episodes.
Chonen 3 years ago
Many people used to think that Ben had unrequited feelings of love for Juliet in season 3 but they turned it into a full blown obsesion this season.
Anyways, I love these 2 characters and the actors are fantastic. It's too bad that we probably won't get any scenes with them in season 5.
Hamburgo100 3 years ago
YOU'RE MINE!!!!
Take as much time as you need...
thomasfan001 3 years ago 5
He is in love. For a moment in his eyes you can see love.
PeaceFrida 3 years ago
Everything should be Michael Emerson talking scored by Michael Giacchino.
simpleton7 3 years ago 5
i would have grabbed bens face and kissed him after he said your mine. then we would have hot monkey sex in the jungle. and i would be putting my clothes back on, and he would have said "take as much time as you need" and then as he was walking up the hill, he would have tripped. perfect.
mzspock 3 years ago 6
Yes, I totally agree. XD
princezzpink007 3 years ago
excellent scenario
penelopedesouza 3 years ago
LOL anyone else catch ben's little pansy walk there at the end =P
hollywoood11 4 years ago 7
And in the first episode where Jack opens that door and the water comes flooding in Ben runs to safety and shuts the door right into her face, and not to mention killing Goodwin!
Shalimar1 4 years ago
I don't like the Ben/ Juliet ship, he is a psychotic killer, I think Juliet deserves someone who loves her and cares for her.
Shalimar1 4 years ago 8
haha Ben and Juliet are my 2 fave characters, but I agree that Juliet deserves someone like JACK!
coffeecrisp7 4 years ago 9
@coffeecrisp7 Ummmm....someone like Sawyer! And they'll be happy forever!!!! :))) My two favs together!
RoguishBlonde 1 year ago
@coffeecrisp7 Boy were you wrong... tehe...
Elephantintheroom01 1 year ago
Ben hasn't killed anyone to my knowledge... he just orders "other" people to do it!
gt2007tv 4 years ago
He shot Locke... He killed his father and everyone of the Dharma initiative... I'd call that murder.
Jafje 4 years ago 2
He killed 40 people and his father. Plus he shot Locke and Charlotte, and killed 2 africans.
RDawg5555 3 years ago 3
@Shalimar1
LOL!
I can see how being incredibly creepy and psychotic can be a turn off.
MattAlbie 1 year ago 2
@Shalimar1
Whats funny is when she came back the the survivors camp, sawyer said "What the hell is she doiung here" and three years later he was planning on merrying her.
Chris22090 1 year ago
@Shalimar1 Ben was never/ has never been psychotic... The reasons are thus: natural genetic competition and tactical impartiality; Ben sees everything as Machiavellian tactics, he more or less lets people choose if he will kill them, not that his is necessarily right.
What you have there is a bias that prevents you from seeing the big picture; humans kill and history suggests its a natural part of life. But you don't have to choose it, there is alwayse free will, thats what tactics rob you of.
Elephantintheroom01 1 year ago
Ben seems depressed when he comes in to the office.
I hope it works between them. I know I am stupid to wish so, but I really like the Ben/Juliet ship.
OffhandAgent 4 years ago
The "you're mine!" makes it seem like Juliet is a tou..like the dolls given to him my Annie
Garp397 4 years ago
That was a pretty hot WTF face
BigDyno 4 years ago 6
Juliet or Ben?
Prowsky 3 years ago
Juliet.
BigDyno 3 years ago
I hoped you mean Juliet! And you're right!
Prowsky 3 years ago
BAHAHAHAHHA
Juliet is like WHAT THE HELL!!!
ben just overdid it a tiny bit in this scene.
THanks for uploading
bigbonesfan 4 years ago
Ben "overdid"? Ben's freakin' scary.
Jafje 4 years ago 4
I agree, and soooo creeeepy! But the last line? "Take as much time as you need", geez! hilarious! xD If I was Juliet I would be veeeery scared!
Create2002 4 years ago 6
Makes you admire the fact that she risked his wrath by asking Jack to let him die... This episode confirmed a few ideas I had about Juliet though.
Jafje 4 years ago 5
OMG Ben is sooooo evil, and yet I still love him :)
shmyshmys 4 years ago 11
Ben can get "lost" in my bedroom anytime ;)
mzspock 4 years ago 8
anyone thing she look like ben mum
Siobhananders 4 years ago
In his eyes, perhaps, but when you compare the woman from Ben's flashback episode in season 3, I think it's more like Juliet's the idolised version of what Ben believes to be his mother.
Jafje 4 years ago
I must be twisted, because that "You're mine" line made every inch of my body purr. I don't know what it is about Ben, but he does it for me. Michael is a wonderful actor, and there is something in that icy stare... Definitely a flavor that suits my taste. A wonderful show. An amazing character. Yep. I have a crush. Just a little. LOL!
QueenCleobethra 4 years ago 13
"Why? You're asking me why after everything I've done to get you here, after everything I've done to keep you here? How can you possibly not understand that you're mine? Take as much time as you need." Yeaaah i love Ben !Ben is the Best ! Michael Emerson is a very great actor !
LOSTADDICT38 4 years ago 20
I love how he stumbles up the hill lol.
moulee01 4 years ago 7
Ben is a sexy man.
Phobos15 4 years ago 4
Ben= Scarey Man
FleurIsLostt 4 years ago 2
JUST A LITTLE?
SteeleaFan 4 years ago
haha yah... i agree, it's not that little... ben and juliet are my 2 fave characters, and seeing them together so much was great, but this is just plain creepy :)
coffeecrisp7 4 years ago
Desmond calling Penny and Ben saying You're Mine are the coolest moments of season 4 so far.
Hitchcockfan101 4 years ago 8