The EMpire still lives on.... with most of the former colonies resources and assets still firmly in British / American hands. The British Empire is arguably one of the main causes for civil unrest in many countries all over the world, especially due to its indiscriminate border drawing, and due to the rape of resources all over its conquered countries.
Thats known as capitalism and drives the modern world. Why should I business abandon all its investment because the ruler of a land changes?
I can only presume your border argument is based on the middle east which has to be said has almost never been a peaceful place thanks to the three Abrahamic religions. British Empire is the reason slavery has been stopped in the "civilised" world. Why children get free education, why many countries have free universal healthcare.
Despite the wrongs that the British Empire have done, whether anti Imperialists want to admit it or not, They have payed a huge contribution for man evolving around the world, and when they want to bring up Africa, They should know that Africa was in much better shape when it was under British Rule. Video put it best, just look at Canada USA, Australia etc
@ismeans1 --- they are the cause of Hitler rising to power. That was good? They are the cause of the current middle east crusade. Is that good? all in the name of the crown....
@TheChineseEmpire Really? Are you really that thick? Hitler came to power because of many reasons:The Wall street crash, The weakness of the Weimar system of goverment in place since 1919, The 'harshness' of the treaty of Versailles, Political intimidation led by the SA and Mass disillusionment. Notice how I didn't mention the British empire, which had been crumbling even before Hitler was born. Get your facts right Chinese man
AOTEAROA NZ MAORI THE MOST FORMIDDABLE INDIGENOUS WARRIORS THE BRITISH EMPIRE HAD EVER FACED, IN SAYING THAT KING EDWARD ANNOUNCED THAT NEW ZEALAND BE A ROYAL MONARCHY SOVEREIGN ISLAND.
erm i did an 7000 word project on eugenics, the British created the idea of reproducing the strongest to replace the lost generations from WW1 and the spanish flu, people throughout europe also agreed with these ideas. The British did NOT give forward the idea of racial cleansing, which the Nazis performed. The only idea the Nazis took from the british empire was making a stronger race through mass reproduction of the 'best' of German society.
Broadband01 has just made a smashing comment - relevant and amusing - which I have had to delete, because of a final sentence which was unacceptable to 14-year-olds.
Please everybody note the parameters that this is aimed at 14-year-old pupils, and moderate your language appropriately.
@insanelylogical Just remember what language u speak, because the flag just pissis back at ya lmao. U forget, u speak the language of the GREAT BRITISH EMPIRE. The empire that named ur cities, as a testament of its great achievements. An old empire, that ruled the waves, so don't u forget it !!!!
The only Empire to ban slavery, include locals in national rule, improve sanitation, develop countries infrastructure and give democracy. Real evil. Considering ALL other empires Id take the British one Anyday. What other group of people in history have ever made such a huge contribution to the world?
Nicely put together but the British Empire did not contain England, Scotland, and Wales. These are the constituents parts of Britain itself. Also appartheid was very much a Dutch Boer driven system rather than British. The term "concentration camp" is very much of WW2 origins and has been applied retrospectively to the Boer War tactic of coraling families of Boer fighters. Dysentry and disease spread but great efforts were made by British to remedy and British press very critical of policy.
"Contrary to popular belief the British Empire was not a benign and gentle democacy." Perhaps this is popular belief in Britain, but it certainly isn't the popular belief in any country which was subjected to the brutal, exploitative, hubristic enterprise that was the British Empire.
I am amazed that some British people still think the Empire was a force for good. Britain's disgraceful legacy has made it one of the most hated states in the world.
Visiting Commonwealth countries, many people certainly Dont hate the BE. Not to mention the fact they they choose to remain in the Commonwealth speaks for itself on their opinion of it.
@WolfytheWolf5667 I have never celebrated or been part any Empire day?, empires are not made of small almost inhabitable rocks in the middle of nowhere, if you think by any measure that what we hold today as BOT’s is an empire then your on drugs, to call what little we have left an empire is an insult to what was our empire.
@WolfytheWolf5667 Who told you, you piece of shit, that Britain rules the Commonwealth? In 1949, India even threw out the name "British Commonwealth" and replaced it by "Commonwealth of Nations". India is a republic and the bitch of Buckingham wont fetch a 100 rupees if she put up her pussy on the market. You think you rule India? Right now, Britain is America's dog...you are barely a sovereign country. If you dare, send your soldiers and we will make your mothers eat their roasted children.
@WolfytheWolf5667 lol! Dude! India is part of the CIS? ROTFL.... Wow...you might just be the dumbest person I have met on Youtube. Get an education....you fool. No wonder you love absolute monarchy...
Hey...I really want to know more about your opinions. Please go on with your comedy (opinions). This is sooo damn hilarious... India in the CIS... ROTFL!
@MasterGamingUK And we Indians are going to return the favour to Britain, dont worry. Those thousands of British natives in our factories, look how we are giving them employment. We will even teach you to make rockets. Hell...even the union jack will be good for something...shining our shoes.
In about 20 years, the Indian conquest of Britain will be complete. Then, you can thank us.
Well, Celts don't exist anymore, so no British natives...
We have over 50 nuclear warheads stationed in remote areas so if you indians want to charge at us with your turbans and swords whilst on horseback then go ahead, we're ready.
How can you shine shoes if your country cannot afford them? You have sandals.
This conquest will end with a new India. GOD SAVED THE QUEEN.
Give it about... 20 years and you will be regretting saying this.
@MasterGamingUK Not really. We have a 9:1 advantage in main battle tanks and remember that you will not be allowed to even touch a gun unless your American masters allow you to. You dont even own your little military, so shut up.
You don't like shoes...fine. We can use the Union Jack to wipe our sandals clean.
Did you see your PM grovelling in Delhi, eagerly taking in our spit with his tongue? That is the future. Believe it.
It is actually the union flag. And if you think you guys are so tough, then why did a tea company take over your country within 2 hours? Not so tough...
And we know how to stop your tanks... Shoot the men who are pushing it.
@MasterGamingUK If the Brits are so tough, why did their Tornadoes get knocked out of the sky easily by India's Su-30s in joint exercises? Remember that we have more Su-30s than your entire RAF combat strength. These Su-30s are then backed by 100s of other fighters.
Beat Libya first. Now imagine what would happen if faced with India. We would still have turbans and swords at the queen's royal ass fucking after the war, though. We would want her ass innaugurated with all pomp and splendour.
@MasterGamingUK That's what the queen said ... when her ass was getting fucked so hard that our sperm shot out of her mouth. What a dirty whore she is...swears like a bitch.
@Mrparrot73 We have raped your Indian ass before, took your recorces and shagged your women. We can do it again. Oh yes I am so scared about your crappy made Su-30's maybe we'll just fling a cow at you.
@dannydowning1 Yes, dude...you can do conquer us 1000 times if you want. I am sure Macedonia is just as confident as you are :) You must watch out for superpower Macedonia....
@Mrparrot73 To be frank, Mr parrot toucher, The Macedonian empire led by a certain 'Alexander the Great', ever heard of him? Was the largest empire ever seen back then, from 'Macedonia' to 'India'. That's right, loser, even the Macedonians conquered you, ha ha. So referring to your earlier comment, you should have been watching out for Macedonia, superpower Macedonia.
@dannydowning1 Actually, Alexander never conquered India and in fact, the Macedonians under Selukos Nikator were defeated and sent back by the Indian Maurya Emperor. As a tribute, Selukos daughter helen later married the Indian Emperor.
But Alexander of course was a world famous conqueror. Superpowers die. Yours is dead.
@MasterGamingUK Ya...you must be one of those BNP types. You should read how the RAF got knocked silly in joint exercises in India. Wake up and smell the coffee, er...tea loyalists of the bitch of Buckingham.
What're you gonna do in 20 yrs? Show us Elisabeth's bare ass so we can fuck it? Try an invasion of India and we'll make the queen eat her roasted soldiers while we fuck her ass.
Maybe a map of the commonwealth would not go astray. As an Australian I pray for closer ties with Great Brittan if only to stay of the en-crouching yanks and their modern Empire of proxy governments.
The first official system of apartheid was practiced by the British in Ireland. It was not based on race but religion. That does make the British seem more like the Nazis then in that case, persecuting people for their religion.
And after all that they have the gall to criticize people in Northern Ireland for sectarianism which has its roots in the Penal Laws instituted in the 17th century and keep alive by the British for about 200 years and re-introduced in 1921.
I don't understand how British people try to justify their past. The Germans don't do it about theirs. The French don't try to glorify the Algerian War of 1963. It really shows a lack of progression and an unwillingness to move with and live in the modern world.
I could say that Hitler built good roads and created employment but that doesn't justify what he did. Murder is murder. Oppression is oppression.
@duinedubh Exactly how did the British oppress? They introduced democracy to many places they went to where it wasnt before.
Not to mention places such as India had their population TREBLE thanks to British improving of sanitation and healthcare. Not to mention the stopping of India and Irelands warring states during rule.
The Commonwealth is on average the worlds healthiest, wealthiest, most democratic place to live.
I believe that the racism section is unfairly biased.
Apartheid was instituted after the British left and was condemned by the British immediately. Furthermore the notions of racial supremacy had long been held in the European though in ever colonial power, not just the British. It is totally incorrect to say that the British contributed to Hitler`s views seeing as the Empire was one of the most diverse Empire`s ever.
@greenfield99 Racial segregation was practiced, but it was not instituted as an official law until the British left, and was implemented in 1948 in the petty apartheid as it was called. It was not until later that full apartheid was implemented, and it was openly criticized by Harold Macmillan in the Winds of Change Speech. And if you did your research you would find that almost every other European power was far more brutal with the natives than the British. See Algeria and Congo.
@xpo50 The WORD Apartheid was coined after 1948, but the laws that regulated the blacks'existence in and out the homelands started in 1913 when the UK still governed South Africa (together with a few Afrikaners that were too afraid to oppose Britain for the memory of the CONCENTRATION CAMPS in the Anglo Boer War when Britian burnt farms food churches animals, whipped women kids elderly disabled onto soiled animal trucks and starved up to 65% of kids in the camps. Google: Lizzie van Zyl.
@xpo50 hey wait a minute, I was told that England supported the Apartheid in South Africa, and another thing I read that the British also supported The Confederacy during the civil war, so I think the racial issue shown in the video is right
@Blanqueador They supported the confederacy only out of trade obligations, not out of a love of slavery,which by the way had long been abolished in Great Britain by that point. Britain was dependent upon the Southern cotton trade, as Britain was thriving ont he textile industry with most of Europe's clothes made in England.
Though to expand around the world as the UK did took guts tenacity and intelligence the fundamental problem is/was that the colonised nations did not want our presence and opposed it with varying levels of violence.
Similarly many oppose the colonisation of the UK that has taken place since about 1950.
Unfortunately demographics will ensure that ultimately the colonisers gain control of the body politic of the UK.
The one thing that people always fail to point out about the empire is the expression "expanding the realm" (which later became "filling in the pink") is presicly what is meant by the word Reich. The British empire was infact a Reich.
''A reich''...Interesting way of putting it,,,,I thought the term only desribes the German Empires. The First Reich being the Holy Roman Empire, the Second Reich being the Kaiser's Germany, and the Third ofcourse being the Nazis...
@suryavajra Only since the House of Hanover, to be more specific. It would be more fair to say they were Hanoverian since German did not exist when the house came to power.
@temporaldisplacement Reich only has a negative connotation because Hitler used it, otherwise Reich really just means an Empire, expanding your holdings like any power does.
@Togepi001 If you're intrested in a book about the British Empire, I'd recommend "The Rise And Fall Of The British Empire", by James Lawrence. It pretty much sums up everything about it.
You forget that we British were not the only ones going out trying to take nations for ourselves, we were just better at it. A lot of good came out of it aswell, it wasn't all bad. Most the people talking crap about the empire, about 90% of you only say it because it was the British who did it.
Well global communication brings the world in greater contact, sure. But if anything that can be divisive as well. I mean not so long ago, 2 World Wars were waged, indeed the two most terrible wars ever fought in the history of mankind. All in the age after industrialization and the development of global communication.
Oh dear, there's a whiff of Jealousy and hypocrisy coming from certain people who don't like the fact the British empire was bigger than the Mongol Empire, the Roman Empire, The Qing Dynasty, The Ottomon Empire, Imperial Japan, African waring nations, the Mayan and Aztec empires etc etc...Sorry are we not supposed to mention non-white empires?.
@TheMightyKing100 They are better than letting people shit in the streets, Im sorry what would become streets because people are too worried about self determination. Opposing colonialism is essentially racist because most people would think that the original rulers who oppressed their people were better to rule simply because they were the same skin colour as those they ruled.
hmm.. Empires come and go, but ultimately it has been empires that have given the human race a kick up the ass to get advancing. If Empires never existed where the hell would we be today? I tell you were, down the stable getting our horses hooves pimped up...
Alot of critism of the British Empire but every major country in world had an empire or attempted to create an empire. The British were the most succsesful and bear in mind the size of the country and there very limited manpower resource pool, it is nothing short of one of the worlds greatest achievements. I think you can best judge the British Empire by looking at its legacy .... Canada, USA, India, Australia, Singapore and more well of countrys.
Please note that this forum is for school pupils to place their comments about the British Empire, not for random political and racist rants. Thank you suryavajra for always trying to inject a note of academia and reason.
Thank you greenfield for your appreciation!! I was worried that some of my comments were getting overly political for this forum there....
But yes, hope the pupils will get to read this history as well and make their minds up for themselves. As long as they start to think about how history affects how life is today and understand what an interesting and important subject it is!!
@AnatolyaTurkiye: nice comment from the "Sick man of Europe", shall we compare the British Empire of liberty and law with the Ottoman Empire? I feel the list of achievements will be a touch longer in one column than the other.
And just FYI from 1815 onwards the BE was the guarantor of the Ottoman Empire (despite contempory loathing the barbaric OE, the politicians were more afraid of the Russian one)
@Pithyoneliner uk was called the sick man of europe by Putin. Hurts that time changes yes. Do compare a list, we lasted twice as long in areas that are 100000 times tougher to colonize. Additionally, the UK empire grew only by the finances of Jewish bankers. Dont cry that your history is barbaric slave making of less developed people. The slaves grandchildren are making uk pay. Times change seems it hurts the English piglets.
@Pithyoneliner The numbers are more than a single family. They are not English since their family are all over Europe and the wider world. Those families are responsible for the death of the soldiers from your country. That is treason most would argue. Comparing the empires wont benefit the Brit empire. The slavery is synonymous with the empire of Britain.
You really don't know your history... first <major> nation to outlaw the slave trade, Britain 1807. The Royal Navy patrolled the western seaboard of Africa to intercept slavers throughout the 19th century.
The OE did not stamp out the slave trade until the foundation of the Turkish Republic in the 20th century.
Rothschilds can't be British because they have family in other countries? Too ridiculous to respond to. Do you believe in the Protocols of Zion too?
@Pithyoneliner The Arabs had the slave trade for twice as long as the Brits but people do not complain about that. You can use that against people who complain about the British slave trade or USA slave trade. Besides, everybody is a slave to some, the employer is a slave master. I dont mind the Brits but they should get a reality check with the success of their precious empire.
@AnatolyaTurkiye An Empire that Spanned a Quarter of the World, a Universal Language, Locamotion, Globalisation, Industrialisation, A Navy at the Time and now has Naval Supremacy over the then British World and the Fact that if a country was fighting a losing war, asking for help from the British getting it and in return winning their war in return for having power over their country and turning it into a wealthy, prosperus nation in which they could fight for Queen and Country
Trully the greatest empire of all time. We in germany were envious. At least hitler was lol. nice empire britain, i know some countries are very jealous of your empire and so try to put you down we. but we in germany admire the british empire and see it for the great empire it was. some countries hate the fact that it was so successful.
Why would you admire the British Empire when most of it consisted of people who never wanted to be part of it??
Wouldn't it make more sense to be proud of your Otto Von Bismark who united the German states into the Second Reich or Frederich Barbarossa of the Holy Roman Empire?? Or how about how Frederich the Great of Prussia and how he was able to take on the three most powerful states in Europe during the Seven Years War??
@suryavajra Because the british empire basically made the modern world and had the largest empire of all time and controled pretty much the whole world for 2 centuries not just europe, it was the closest thing to world domination ever. like i said, there ae some people who hate that fact and try to talk this empire down. further more the british people are decended from germanic people so this also makes me proud as a german.
To try to conquer all under the heaven in vain attempt to have them all under you is nothing more than vanity. The Empire was never what they said it was or justified it to be. You ought to read the truth and find out more.
I personally have more respect for a Bismarck or the Friedrich the Great for what those guys accomplished, to be honest...
@suryavajra oh here we go, another frenchman or woman who cant admit how great the british empire was, lolit makes me laugh. your biggest worry should be germany not britain so why cant you just admit that the british kicked your ass, it looks like you are just scared to admit the british empires power, which was really an anglo saxon empire from germany as the english are german, just admit it we germanic peoples crushed the french!! mein fuhrer!!!
''Mein Fuhrer''....you said you were pro-Second Reich. And keep in mind that the British partitioned the Second Reich, when all was said and done. How much of your land did you lose in 1919, ehhh?? How many Germans did the Commies kill post-1945??
callin, you, the French, and Brits are all in the same boat. Now y'all are good little boys and girls for the EU. Congrats!!! hahaaha!
@suryavajra yea the AU. American Union.. there is aleady a North American Union. Canada, Mexico, and the United States. based on the EU, haven't u herd of the Amero? haha i told you to do your homework on it b4..
like i said to you, your to stuck in the past to see the fufure ;)
There you go....North America Union NOT American Union. And even if there was such a thing, it would never get off the ground, and it certainly would never be accepted in the good ol' US of A.
@suryavajra like i said your to stuck in the past to see the fufure.. maybe you should read 1984 by george orwell.. funny how pretty much everything he says a about a 3 world superpower is coming true lol.. and do you thing the ppl of the europe wanted the euro?
@suryavajra logical deductions about the future? im sorry but there is nothing logical about the way you think about the futuer, and that is because you are not willing to think outside the box. history repeats itself for a reason. so its basically its more War, famine, genocide. mass murder, poverty ext ext ext sound grate..
Third world Superpowers? i said a 3 world superpower.. what i mean is the world is ruled by three superstates
@suryavajra I have to concur with my learned colleague, NAFTA is not a Union, it is a free trade agreement (the clue is in the name), and even the modest acheivements of NAFTA are a cause of much wailing and nashing of teeth by your democratic party, further intergration, actual union? no chance...
Thats true what you say about germanic people im English and have traced my family name Elson like admiral Nelson back to saxony in germany. Apparently saxon tribes populated Britain Hence Anglo saxon. Strange we went to war twice really no wonder Hitler wanted England as an ally although we did beat Napoleon germany being prussia then.
@callin2427 haha the Brits are not German or germanic we are classed as anglo saxon but we are a mix of Celts, Romans, Anglo saxon and Normans. There was also ppl here long b4 all of them.. and for your info the anglo saxons where not German. Anglo-Saxons settlers were a mixture of people from north Germany, Denmark and northern Holland. Most were Saxons, Angles and Jutes. There were some Franks and Frisians too
But I do long for greater German+UK alliance within the EU, If Germany, NL and the UK (top three net contributers to the budget) were to ally we could block French insanity such as the CAP, expansion of the Eurozone to include Greece etc.etc. I do not understand Germany's constant siding with France... Historically UK, NL and Prussia were always natural allies (other than of course a brief period of unpleasantness)
@suryavajra when you look at an empire its not just about who you conquer. You also look at what that empire has left behind. Not only did the british defeat many european powers in making the empire, but it also planted its people on, what are today, 4 major anglo countries to multiply and flourish. no other empire has done that. the british empire was diverse and successful with the results to see.
Well actually the Hellenistic Empire did that back in the day when they left behind many powerful Hellenistic successor kingdoms ie the Ptolemaic of Egypt, Selecuid of Asia, Antgonids of Macedonia, and the kingdom of Epirus. And they flourished for a period of 100-200 years after the death of Alexander....
As for being diverse, one can say the same thing about the old Czarist Empire or that of the Hapsburgs....
The British empire slumbers today under the guise of the commonwealth just waiting for Jerry to stir so we can take the cane from the cupboard and give him a damn good thrashing. wot wot
Is it just me or was the world a better place when we were running it?
The problem is that the current Hegemon is too powerful, whereas the BE was built on a shoestring by a tiny island nation, who always realised the necessity of negotiation and of allies and very rarely took unilateral action.
"who always realised the necessity of negotiation and of allies and very rarely took unilateral action".
Is this true? What about 'splendid isolation'? The Zulu wars, the Boers Wars, Amritsar, Suez? I suspect the BE was as much built on arrogance as any empire is.
Splendid Isolation - a myth! To my knowledge there was only major war the BE fought alone, that was the US Revolution and look how that turned out! Contrary to most US opinion that was fought versus US, France, Spain and the Netherlands, it is highly doubtful that the Colonists could have done it alone. (Suez: UK, F, Is, Amritsar: was an 'internal' rebelion, Zulu wars - a bit one sided! Boer Wars is a good example of rare unilateralism, caused by the BE seriously underestimating the Afrikaners)
Probably half of the American Revolution was fight by the colonists against the British without the official support of allies. From the first shots at Lexington and Concord all the way to the Battle of Saratoga, the Continental Army and the various colonial militias were fighting alone.
Otherwise known as the half they were losing, Saratoga was the first win in a string of defeats. The war lasted 1776 to 1783, the French supported the colonists materially from the very beginning entered the war in 1778, by my count that ain't half even in purely chronological terms...
Do you believe the colonists could have won without French / international assistance? While that scenario is up for debate, to say the colonists did it alone is just not true...
That is only part way right. There were French soldiers and officers who came over and fought for the cause, like Marquis de Lafayette. But it was only after Saratoga that the French crown officially supported the Patriot cause.
I think the Patriots would of inflicted such bloodshed and mayhem against the Brits, that eventually other powers would of come in and joined the Americans in driving out the Brits.
No the French crown supported the colonists with arms and cash - it was French made muskets they were firing at the redcoats. There is another argument that the revolution was never as clear cut as since presented, there were a great many "undecideds". Had international support not arrived, the rebels could well have found their support withering, likewise French involvement cemented British intransigence and a compromise may otherwise have been possible
Well really it was clandestine support. Think about it. Using your logic, you would think that any guy firing an AK-47 is getting backing from the Russian government. That is not neccesarily true there!!
In this case there was covert support. Arms and funding. But remember there's a difference in degree between covert support and all-out, open alliances.
Remember one more thing. The British had their chance to come to a compromise and squandered it.
The AK47 argument doesn't hold water: the French shipped arms and cash to the rebels from the outset. Which you admit. They actively entered the war in 78 and played a pivotal role at Yorktown. which is widely seen as "the beginning of the end" for the Brits. Surely you can't argue with my original point, "the rebels did not do it alone"!
But I certainly can't argue that Lord North made a pigs ear of it and could on many occasions have reached a compromise but refused to negotiate.
Well to use an analogy, The Russians and Chinese sent many, many weapons to the tribes and insurgency groups in sub-saharan Africa. Some whom they officially supported, and some they supported under the table, if you will. The arms by themselves do not specifically indicate overt and official support.
I'd say this about the Patriots. Whether you make the argument that they did it alone or did it with the help of many allies, that in and of itself is going on a tangent.
I think that until the Boston Massacre, probably for another one or two years, the British authorities could of settled the problem in the colonies at the negotiating table. But from atleast what I had been taught at school, by 1773 and 1774 it became more and more clear that there would be no compromise...
Many would say later than that, Jefferson and moderates on both sides bemoaned the lack of a peaceful solution right up to Treaty of Paris. Nice debating with you, an erudite chap like you may enjoy Laurence James' Rise and Fall of the British Empire, didn't much care for the last third myself ;o)
It's been great talking to you as well!!! I'd love to check it out!
But yeah...who knows what might have happened if there was a compromise. I remember reading somewhere that the reason the whole Dominion concept was developed was because of the American Revolution.
I also enjoyed watching the movie about George III for the first time on Public TV. Never knew how hard the American Revolution hit him.
The problem is, that you are looking at this in a conventional mindset. If your objective was to defeat in the Continental Army in more battles, you did that. But that doesn't mean you were on the verge of crushing the Revolution or even crushing the Continental Army. It's one thing to defeat an army in a series of engagements and it's another to completely destroy them. Washington knew this and shrewdly applied the Fabian strategy.
Of course the consequences were a massacre and indefensible, my point was that the cause was rebellion, not unilateral action. And Amritsar death count: 379, consequences of a poorly executed exit, 1M dead, yes I'd say the latter was worse...
You could argue that the famines under British rule (greater loss of life) were the greatest crime, especially as there has been none on that scale since independence, but there is no evidence to suggest they were deliberate, the Raj was just incompetent.
The Raj knew exactly what was happening. Infact let me give them credit where credit's due. When the Bengal famine broke out, Viceroy Lord Wavell begged Churchill for any and all assitance. So in one instance they were trying. But White Hall itself refused any and all aid. Churchill goes so far to add, ''Why isn't Gandhi dead yet?''
As for the cause, it was not a rebellion. The cause were people gathering and protesting their grievances in which a rogue general
The things I'm thankful about the British is that they established the US,Industrial Revolution,Subway system,The Beatles,and the English Language.
98bigbutt 3 months ago
The EMpire still lives on.... with most of the former colonies resources and assets still firmly in British / American hands. The British Empire is arguably one of the main causes for civil unrest in many countries all over the world, especially due to its indiscriminate border drawing, and due to the rape of resources all over its conquered countries.
TheWall2000 4 months ago
@TheWall2000
Thats known as capitalism and drives the modern world. Why should I business abandon all its investment because the ruler of a land changes?
I can only presume your border argument is based on the middle east which has to be said has almost never been a peaceful place thanks to the three Abrahamic religions. British Empire is the reason slavery has been stopped in the "civilised" world. Why children get free education, why many countries have free universal healthcare.
animesis 2 weeks ago
We should never have opened our doors up to the Commonwealth or the EU.
HULLOHULLO15 4 months ago in playlist SLAVERY AND ABOLITION
Despite the wrongs that the British Empire have done, whether anti Imperialists want to admit it or not, They have payed a huge contribution for man evolving around the world, and when they want to bring up Africa, They should know that Africa was in much better shape when it was under British Rule. Video put it best, just look at Canada USA, Australia etc
ismeans1 5 months ago in playlist The British Empire, the E.U. and Britain's son the U.S.A.
@ismeans1 --- they are the cause of Hitler rising to power. That was good? They are the cause of the current middle east crusade. Is that good? all in the name of the crown....
TheChineseEmpire 4 months ago
@TheChineseEmpire Really? Are you really that thick? Hitler came to power because of many reasons:The Wall street crash, The weakness of the Weimar system of goverment in place since 1919, The 'harshness' of the treaty of Versailles, Political intimidation led by the SA and Mass disillusionment. Notice how I didn't mention the British empire, which had been crumbling even before Hitler was born. Get your facts right Chinese man
dannydowning1 1 month ago
AOTEAROA NZ MAORI THE MOST FORMIDDABLE INDIGENOUS WARRIORS THE BRITISH EMPIRE HAD EVER FACED, IN SAYING THAT KING EDWARD ANNOUNCED THAT NEW ZEALAND BE A ROYAL MONARCHY SOVEREIGN ISLAND.
H2DAEMZ 8 months ago in playlist Anthems
long live the Commonwealth!
TalonMercenary 9 months ago
erm i did an 7000 word project on eugenics, the British created the idea of reproducing the strongest to replace the lost generations from WW1 and the spanish flu, people throughout europe also agreed with these ideas. The British did NOT give forward the idea of racial cleansing, which the Nazis performed. The only idea the Nazis took from the british empire was making a stronger race through mass reproduction of the 'best' of German society.
bulldogEK1 9 months ago
good video, but u need to slow it down a bit
Kr8mer 10 months ago
Broadband01 has just made a smashing comment - relevant and amusing - which I have had to delete, because of a final sentence which was unacceptable to 14-year-olds.
Please everybody note the parameters that this is aimed at 14-year-old pupils, and moderate your language appropriately.
greenfield99 10 months ago
Britain has been an evil, imperialistic force for thousands of years. Now, their stolen "empire" is no more, and they are quickly withering away,lmao.
I took a nice, long piss on the egglish flag the other day. I must say it felt good.
insanelylogical 10 months ago
@insanelylogical Just remember what language u speak, because the flag just pissis back at ya lmao. U forget, u speak the language of the GREAT BRITISH EMPIRE. The empire that named ur cities, as a testament of its great achievements. An old empire, that ruled the waves, so don't u forget it !!!!
scot676767 10 months ago
@insanelylogical Britain colonised your country and most Americans have some British ancestry.
Bwmz 10 months ago
@insanelylogical
I do say sir, that was rather rude.
I do so believe I should throw a grenade at your rectum, just like our Grenadier's did to the same people who said that.
WolfytheWolf5667 10 months ago
@insanelylogical what's the "egglish flag"? The flag of Eggland? Retard LMAO
Kr8mer 10 months ago
@insanelylogical
The only Empire to ban slavery, include locals in national rule, improve sanitation, develop countries infrastructure and give democracy. Real evil. Considering ALL other empires Id take the British one Anyday. What other group of people in history have ever made such a huge contribution to the world?
animesis 2 weeks ago
Nicely put together but the British Empire did not contain England, Scotland, and Wales. These are the constituents parts of Britain itself. Also appartheid was very much a Dutch Boer driven system rather than British. The term "concentration camp" is very much of WW2 origins and has been applied retrospectively to the Boer War tactic of coraling families of Boer fighters. Dysentry and disease spread but great efforts were made by British to remedy and British press very critical of policy.
66scampi 11 months ago
@66scampi - good comments, thank you.
greenfield99 11 months ago
"Contrary to popular belief the British Empire was not a benign and gentle democacy." Perhaps this is popular belief in Britain, but it certainly isn't the popular belief in any country which was subjected to the brutal, exploitative, hubristic enterprise that was the British Empire.
I am amazed that some British people still think the Empire was a force for good. Britain's disgraceful legacy has made it one of the most hated states in the world.
broigheall 11 months ago
@broigheall : and of course you're not biased in any way.
:)
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WolfytheWolf5667 11 months ago
@broigheall Only by the "always an axe to grind" Irish. Grow up and get over it.
66scampi 11 months ago
@broigheall
and of course England abolished Slavery 60 years before America, and yet America had a N v S war over it and still has Slavery "down in the bayou".
So we're not in anyway to blame. Don't blame us for America's mistakes, equality for colours didn't even come up to 1970's.
England had it probably a decade before that.
WolfytheWolf5667 10 months ago
@WolfytheWolf5667
What are you blathering on about?
broigheall 10 months ago
@broigheall
Visiting Commonwealth countries, many people certainly Dont hate the BE. Not to mention the fact they they choose to remain in the Commonwealth speaks for itself on their opinion of it.
animesis 2 weeks ago
@WolfytheWolf5667 why would we celebrate empire day, we dont have an empire ?
UKOGBN 1 year ago
@UKOGBN
we don't celebrate Empire day because we HAVE an empire, we celebrate it because it's our greatest achievment.
Why should we disband Empire day, only for the UN's satisfaction? The UN are a bunch of assholes.
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
@WolfytheWolf5667 I have never celebrated or been part any Empire day?, empires are not made of small almost inhabitable rocks in the middle of nowhere, if you think by any measure that what we hold today as BOT’s is an empire then your on drugs, to call what little we have left an empire is an insult to what was our empire.
UKOGBN 1 year ago
@UKOGBN
we have 54 nations under our control. We rule the Commonwealth with over 1.2 billion people in it.
That's better than America.
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
@WolfytheWolf5667 Who told you, you piece of shit, that Britain rules the Commonwealth? In 1949, India even threw out the name "British Commonwealth" and replaced it by "Commonwealth of Nations". India is a republic and the bitch of Buckingham wont fetch a 100 rupees if she put up her pussy on the market. You think you rule India? Right now, Britain is America's dog...you are barely a sovereign country. If you dare, send your soldiers and we will make your mothers eat their roasted children.
Mrparrot73 8 months ago
@Mrparrot73
yes yes, India can join the filthy Chinese.
India is part of CIS, that makes it an enemy of the world.
As depicted by 1991.
I am a fan of absolute Monarchy, because mainly...well it works better than Democracy.
Plus, those filthy people, Indians, are destroying 20% of the Amazon.
WolfytheWolf5667 8 months ago
@WolfytheWolf5667 lol! Dude! India is part of the CIS? ROTFL.... Wow...you might just be the dumbest person I have met on Youtube. Get an education....you fool. No wonder you love absolute monarchy...
Hey...I really want to know more about your opinions. Please go on with your comedy (opinions). This is sooo damn hilarious... India in the CIS... ROTFL!
Mrparrot73 8 months ago
@Mrparrot73 America's dog? WE FUCKING MADE YOU
MasterGamingUK 7 months ago
@MasterGamingUK And we Indians are going to return the favour to Britain, dont worry. Those thousands of British natives in our factories, look how we are giving them employment. We will even teach you to make rockets. Hell...even the union jack will be good for something...shining our shoes.
In about 20 years, the Indian conquest of Britain will be complete. Then, you can thank us.
Mrparrot73 6 months ago
Well, Celts don't exist anymore, so no British natives...
We have over 50 nuclear warheads stationed in remote areas so if you indians want to charge at us with your turbans and swords whilst on horseback then go ahead, we're ready.
How can you shine shoes if your country cannot afford them? You have sandals.
This conquest will end with a new India. GOD SAVED THE QUEEN.
Give it about... 20 years and you will be regretting saying this.
MasterGamingUK 6 months ago
@MasterGamingUK Not really. We have a 9:1 advantage in main battle tanks and remember that you will not be allowed to even touch a gun unless your American masters allow you to. You dont even own your little military, so shut up.
You don't like shoes...fine. We can use the Union Jack to wipe our sandals clean.
Did you see your PM grovelling in Delhi, eagerly taking in our spit with his tongue? That is the future. Believe it.
Mrparrot73 6 months ago
We own our military, just like we own the US.
America? The continent? Damn your stupid...
It is actually the union flag. And if you think you guys are so tough, then why did a tea company take over your country within 2 hours? Not so tough...
And we know how to stop your tanks... Shoot the men who are pushing it.
MasterGamingUK 6 months ago
@MasterGamingUK If the Brits are so tough, why did their Tornadoes get knocked out of the sky easily by India's Su-30s in joint exercises? Remember that we have more Su-30s than your entire RAF combat strength. These Su-30s are then backed by 100s of other fighters.
Beat Libya first. Now imagine what would happen if faced with India. We would still have turbans and swords at the queen's royal ass fucking after the war, though. We would want her ass innaugurated with all pomp and splendour.
Mrparrot73 6 months ago
Oh fuck off. CBA talking to a turban wearing, cow shagging, slum loving, belly dancing paki bastard.
MasterGamingUK 6 months ago
@MasterGamingUK That's what the queen said ... when her ass was getting fucked so hard that our sperm shot out of her mouth. What a dirty whore she is...swears like a bitch.
Mrparrot73 6 months ago
Go make my shirt you smelly cow shagging dick sneeze.
MasterGamingUK 6 months ago
@MasterGamingUK Agreed,
dannydowning1 1 month ago
@Mrparrot73 We have raped your Indian ass before, took your recorces and shagged your women. We can do it again. Oh yes I am so scared about your crappy made Su-30's maybe we'll just fling a cow at you.
dannydowning1 2 months ago
@dannydowning1 Yes, dude...you can do conquer us 1000 times if you want. I am sure Macedonia is just as confident as you are :) You must watch out for superpower Macedonia....
Mrparrot73 1 month ago
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dannydowning1 1 month ago
@Mrparrot73 To be frank, Mr parrot toucher, The Macedonian empire led by a certain 'Alexander the Great', ever heard of him? Was the largest empire ever seen back then, from 'Macedonia' to 'India'. That's right, loser, even the Macedonians conquered you, ha ha. So referring to your earlier comment, you should have been watching out for Macedonia, superpower Macedonia.
dannydowning1 1 month ago
@dannydowning1 Actually, Alexander never conquered India and in fact, the Macedonians under Selukos Nikator were defeated and sent back by the Indian Maurya Emperor. As a tribute, Selukos daughter helen later married the Indian Emperor.
But Alexander of course was a world famous conqueror. Superpowers die. Yours is dead.
Mrparrot73 1 month ago
@MasterGamingUK Ya...you must be one of those BNP types. You should read how the RAF got knocked silly in joint exercises in India. Wake up and smell the coffee, er...tea loyalists of the bitch of Buckingham.
What're you gonna do in 20 yrs? Show us Elisabeth's bare ass so we can fuck it? Try an invasion of India and we'll make the queen eat her roasted soldiers while we fuck her ass.
Mrparrot73 6 months ago
Maybe a map of the commonwealth would not go astray. As an Australian I pray for closer ties with Great Brittan if only to stay of the en-crouching yanks and their modern Empire of proxy governments.
Long live the Queen
long live the Commonwealth!
miyelir 1 year ago
The good far far far out weighs the bad! Without Great Britain, many of the worlds developed countries would be here.
DaveandNic4eva 1 year ago
whats the name of the song played?
therealmeteora 1 year ago
@therealmeteora: Rule Britannia
greenfield99 1 year ago 2
Good points on both sides of the argument.
I agree that British Empire created huge problems but did create the world we know ti today, like it or not.
@xpo50 you didn't mention the abolition of slavery?
cleaningsfun 1 year ago
I understand that much brutality was involved in creating the Brit Empire.
So was much ingenuity guts tenacity and intelligence.
When looking back to the past you must judge by the values of those times.
I think so anyway.
Socially many nations that are relatively civilsed today were less so then.
Many that were uncivilised then still are today.
It seems clear to me that many African nations would be better off if still run by the Brits .
Zimbabwe for example
I am sure you agree lol.
divvy1400yam600 1 year ago
The first official system of apartheid was practiced by the British in Ireland. It was not based on race but religion. That does make the British seem more like the Nazis then in that case, persecuting people for their religion.
And after all that they have the gall to criticize people in Northern Ireland for sectarianism which has its roots in the Penal Laws instituted in the 17th century and keep alive by the British for about 200 years and re-introduced in 1921.
How proud you must be!
duinedubh 1 year ago
@duinedubh cry me a river?
UKOGBN 1 year ago
I don't understand how British people try to justify their past. The Germans don't do it about theirs. The French don't try to glorify the Algerian War of 1963. It really shows a lack of progression and an unwillingness to move with and live in the modern world.
I could say that Hitler built good roads and created employment but that doesn't justify what he did. Murder is murder. Oppression is oppression.
duinedubh 1 year ago
@duinedubh Exactly how did the British oppress? They introduced democracy to many places they went to where it wasnt before.
Not to mention places such as India had their population TREBLE thanks to British improving of sanitation and healthcare. Not to mention the stopping of India and Irelands warring states during rule.
The Commonwealth is on average the worlds healthiest, wealthiest, most democratic place to live.
animesis 2 weeks ago
I believe that the racism section is unfairly biased.
Apartheid was instituted after the British left and was condemned by the British immediately. Furthermore the notions of racial supremacy had long been held in the European though in ever colonial power, not just the British. It is totally incorrect to say that the British contributed to Hitler`s views seeing as the Empire was one of the most diverse Empire`s ever.
xpo50 1 year ago
@xpo50: Thanks for the comment, though if you research you will find out that you are wrong on all three counts.
greenfield99 1 year ago
@greenfield99 Racial segregation was practiced, but it was not instituted as an official law until the British left, and was implemented in 1948 in the petty apartheid as it was called. It was not until later that full apartheid was implemented, and it was openly criticized by Harold Macmillan in the Winds of Change Speech. And if you did your research you would find that almost every other European power was far more brutal with the natives than the British. See Algeria and Congo.
xpo50 1 year ago
@xpo50 The WORD Apartheid was coined after 1948, but the laws that regulated the blacks'existence in and out the homelands started in 1913 when the UK still governed South Africa (together with a few Afrikaners that were too afraid to oppose Britain for the memory of the CONCENTRATION CAMPS in the Anglo Boer War when Britian burnt farms food churches animals, whipped women kids elderly disabled onto soiled animal trucks and starved up to 65% of kids in the camps. Google: Lizzie van Zyl.
riebeekkasteel 1 year ago
@xpo50 hey wait a minute, I was told that England supported the Apartheid in South Africa, and another thing I read that the British also supported The Confederacy during the civil war, so I think the racial issue shown in the video is right
Blanqueador 1 year ago
@Blanqueador They supported the confederacy only out of trade obligations, not out of a love of slavery,which by the way had long been abolished in Great Britain by that point. Britain was dependent upon the Southern cotton trade, as Britain was thriving ont he textile industry with most of Europe's clothes made in England.
xpo50 1 year ago
Though to expand around the world as the UK did took guts tenacity and intelligence the fundamental problem is/was that the colonised nations did not want our presence and opposed it with varying levels of violence.
Similarly many oppose the colonisation of the UK that has taken place since about 1950.
Unfortunately demographics will ensure that ultimately the colonisers gain control of the body politic of the UK.
tel that to your beloved 14 year olds.
Ignore most things uttered by Jack Straw.
divvy1400yam600 1 year ago
@divvy1400yam600 It not take gut, teacity ad intelligence, it took brutality and a disregard for human dignity and life!
duinedubh 1 year ago
@divvy1400yam600 It not take gut, tenacity ad intelligence, it took brutality and a disregard for human dignity and life!
duinedubh 1 year ago
this is one of the reasons why im studying english now....
Blanqueador 1 year ago
When did the empire end? You can't technically be saying it has ended, when there are 14 colonies left, on which the sun still never sets.
flosssock 1 year ago
@flosssock
Oh please flossock. They are little islands, some of which are inhabited, to your credit...lol!!
The Empire's sleeping with the fishes...lol!
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra The UK could fit more than 6 times over into those 'little islands'.
flosssock 1 year ago
@flosssock
get out of here...lol!
suryavajra 1 year ago
RULE BRITANNIA!!
MrRyan200 1 year ago
The one thing that people always fail to point out about the empire is the expression "expanding the realm" (which later became "filling in the pink") is presicly what is meant by the word Reich. The British empire was infact a Reich.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement
''A reich''...Interesting way of putting it,,,,I thought the term only desribes the German Empires. The First Reich being the Holy Roman Empire, the Second Reich being the Kaiser's Germany, and the Third ofcourse being the Nazis...
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra Well yeah ...and what nationality is the british monarchy?
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement
You mean what nationality were they originally?? Well ofcourse they were German.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra Only since the House of Hanover, to be more specific. It would be more fair to say they were Hanoverian since German did not exist when the house came to power.
xpo50 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement Reich only has a negative connotation because Hitler used it, otherwise Reich really just means an Empire, expanding your holdings like any power does.
xpo50 1 year ago
@xpo50 Exactly.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
Im Welsh and if they want to count us as british.. put us on the flag
elbeavo11 1 year ago
@elbeavo11
Fair comment!
greenfield99 1 year ago
@elbeavo11 I've been arguing for a big ol' dragon SMACK over the whole jack for donkeys now.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement eh?
elbeavo11 1 year ago
@elbeavo11 Why not have the dragon over the jack. .....or change the jack entirely to have a stag a lion and a dragon on it.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@elbeavo11
That's a good point....
suryavajra 1 year ago
Thankyou! This has really helped me gain a better understanding of the unit I am currently Studying for A Level History1
Togepi001 1 year ago
@Togepi001
A pleasure!
greenfield99 1 year ago
@Togepi001 If you're intrested in a book about the British Empire, I'd recommend "The Rise And Fall Of The British Empire", by James Lawrence. It pretty much sums up everything about it.
rulebritannia9 1 year ago
You forget that we British were not the only ones going out trying to take nations for ourselves, we were just better at it. A lot of good came out of it aswell, it wasn't all bad. Most the people talking crap about the empire, about 90% of you only say it because it was the British who did it.
TheCrump3t 1 year ago
@TheCrump3t
Oh yeah?? What was the good then?? Don't say Masterpiece Theater.... lol!
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra Unifying the globe with railways, telegram wires and protected shipping lanes. ...to name a few.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement
That's increasing global communication, sure. But uniting the world?? Not really....
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra What is global communication; if not unification?
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement
Well global communication brings the world in greater contact, sure. But if anything that can be divisive as well. I mean not so long ago, 2 World Wars were waged, indeed the two most terrible wars ever fought in the history of mankind. All in the age after industrialization and the development of global communication.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra Well people can talk to each other in the streets ....doesn't stop them from kicking each others heads in does it.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement
HAHA!! Fair enough. But I think again, unification kinda goes towards more of the cultural and political, not necessarily on the technological...
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra Also a fair comment. Technology is an enabler ...shall we say.
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
@temporaldisplacement
sure...Like a catalyst.
suryavajra 1 year ago
Oh dear, there's a whiff of Jealousy and hypocrisy coming from certain people who don't like the fact the British empire was bigger than the Mongol Empire, the Roman Empire, The Qing Dynasty, The Ottomon Empire, Imperial Japan, African waring nations, the Mayan and Aztec empires etc etc...Sorry are we not supposed to mention non-white empires?.
JohnPurchaseArt 1 year ago
lol
papadoc711 1 year ago
World Trade, capitalism and globalization are not necessarily good things
TheMightyKing100 1 year ago
@TheMightyKing100 They are better than letting people shit in the streets, Im sorry what would become streets because people are too worried about self determination. Opposing colonialism is essentially racist because most people would think that the original rulers who oppressed their people were better to rule simply because they were the same skin colour as those they ruled.
xpo50 1 year ago
@xpo50
That is a load of bull crap you just wrote there, bru....LOL!!!
You're a funny guy...
suryavajra 1 year ago
hmm.. Empires come and go, but ultimately it has been empires that have given the human race a kick up the ass to get advancing. If Empires never existed where the hell would we be today? I tell you were, down the stable getting our horses hooves pimped up...
BoroKyle 1 year ago
Well done really good video informative and entertaining
paladinzorro 1 year ago
@Bonde2002
Except that has nothing to do with ACTUAL historical events even if you accept that something as convoluted as Race exists.
suryavajra 1 year ago
Alot of critism of the British Empire but every major country in world had an empire or attempted to create an empire. The British were the most succsesful and bear in mind the size of the country and there very limited manpower resource pool, it is nothing short of one of the worlds greatest achievements. I think you can best judge the British Empire by looking at its legacy .... Canada, USA, India, Australia, Singapore and more well of countrys.
ADZ01982 1 year ago
Please note that this forum is for school pupils to place their comments about the British Empire, not for random political and racist rants. Thank you suryavajra for always trying to inject a note of academia and reason.
greenfield99 1 year ago
@greenfield99
Thank you greenfield for your appreciation!! I was worried that some of my comments were getting overly political for this forum there....
But yes, hope the pupils will get to read this history as well and make their minds up for themselves. As long as they start to think about how history affects how life is today and understand what an interesting and important subject it is!!
suryavajra 1 year ago
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@greenfield99
"Please note that this forum is for school pupils to place their comments about the British Empire, not for random political and racist rants."
In short, this forum is for Guardian readers by a Guardian reader.
oarfrost 1 year ago
@oarfrost: wrong on both counts, and outrageous. Merely exercise self-restraint, please, aware that your audience is aged 14.
greenfield99 1 year ago
@oarfrost: wrong on both counts, and outrageous. Merely exercise self-restraint, please, aware that your audience is aged 14.
greenfield99 1 year ago
The british empire took over underdeveloped regions who used sticks as weapons. nothing to be proud of there.
who wants to take over countries like Indians, Australians and Africans. they stink like shit.
loser empire
AnatolyaTurkiye 1 year ago
@AnatolyaTurkiye: nice comment from the "Sick man of Europe", shall we compare the British Empire of liberty and law with the Ottoman Empire? I feel the list of achievements will be a touch longer in one column than the other.
And just FYI from 1815 onwards the BE was the guarantor of the Ottoman Empire (despite contempory loathing the barbaric OE, the politicians were more afraid of the Russian one)
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner uk was called the sick man of europe by Putin. Hurts that time changes yes. Do compare a list, we lasted twice as long in areas that are 100000 times tougher to colonize. Additionally, the UK empire grew only by the finances of Jewish bankers. Dont cry that your history is barbaric slave making of less developed people. The slaves grandchildren are making uk pay. Times change seems it hurts the English piglets.
AnatolyaTurkiye 1 year ago
You call the the Rothschilds et al Jewish bankers, I am proud to call them my countrymen, We do not define "englishman" by race or creed.
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner The numbers are more than a single family. They are not English since their family are all over Europe and the wider world. Those families are responsible for the death of the soldiers from your country. That is treason most would argue. Comparing the empires wont benefit the Brit empire. The slavery is synonymous with the empire of Britain.
AnatolyaTurkiye 1 year ago
You really don't know your history... first <major> nation to outlaw the slave trade, Britain 1807. The Royal Navy patrolled the western seaboard of Africa to intercept slavers throughout the 19th century.
The OE did not stamp out the slave trade until the foundation of the Turkish Republic in the 20th century.
Rothschilds can't be British because they have family in other countries? Too ridiculous to respond to. Do you believe in the Protocols of Zion too?
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner The Arabs had the slave trade for twice as long as the Brits but people do not complain about that. You can use that against people who complain about the British slave trade or USA slave trade. Besides, everybody is a slave to some, the employer is a slave master. I dont mind the Brits but they should get a reality check with the success of their precious empire.
AnatolyaTurkiye 1 year ago
@AnatolyaTurkiye An Empire that Spanned a Quarter of the World, a Universal Language, Locamotion, Globalisation, Industrialisation, A Navy at the Time and now has Naval Supremacy over the then British World and the Fact that if a country was fighting a losing war, asking for help from the British getting it and in return winning their war in return for having power over their country and turning it into a wealthy, prosperus nation in which they could fight for Queen and Country
MrPaddyR 1 year ago
@AnatolyaTurkiye you're so full of shit, did a englishman fuck your wife or something?
sepiasilence 1 year ago
@sepiasilence a chav? LOL
Chavs are dirty scum.
AnatolyaTurkiye 1 year ago
@AnatolyaTurkiye what?
sepiasilence 1 year ago
*salutes*
meandor90 1 year ago
Trully the greatest empire of all time. We in germany were envious. At least hitler was lol. nice empire britain, i know some countries are very jealous of your empire and so try to put you down we. but we in germany admire the british empire and see it for the great empire it was. some countries hate the fact that it was so successful.
callin2427 1 year ago
@callin2427
Why would you admire the British Empire when most of it consisted of people who never wanted to be part of it??
Wouldn't it make more sense to be proud of your Otto Von Bismark who united the German states into the Second Reich or Frederich Barbarossa of the Holy Roman Empire?? Or how about how Frederich the Great of Prussia and how he was able to take on the three most powerful states in Europe during the Seven Years War??
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra Because the british empire basically made the modern world and had the largest empire of all time and controled pretty much the whole world for 2 centuries not just europe, it was the closest thing to world domination ever. like i said, there ae some people who hate that fact and try to talk this empire down. further more the british people are decended from germanic people so this also makes me proud as a german.
callin2427 1 year ago
@callin2427
To try to conquer all under the heaven in vain attempt to have them all under you is nothing more than vanity. The Empire was never what they said it was or justified it to be. You ought to read the truth and find out more.
I personally have more respect for a Bismarck or the Friedrich the Great for what those guys accomplished, to be honest...
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra oh here we go, another frenchman or woman who cant admit how great the british empire was, lolit makes me laugh. your biggest worry should be germany not britain so why cant you just admit that the british kicked your ass, it looks like you are just scared to admit the british empires power, which was really an anglo saxon empire from germany as the english are german, just admit it we germanic peoples crushed the french!! mein fuhrer!!!
callin2427 1 year ago
@callin2427
HAHAHA!!!!! I am neither.....lol!!! Try again...
''Mein Fuhrer''....you said you were pro-Second Reich. And keep in mind that the British partitioned the Second Reich, when all was said and done. How much of your land did you lose in 1919, ehhh?? How many Germans did the Commies kill post-1945??
callin, you, the French, and Brits are all in the same boat. Now y'all are good little boys and girls for the EU. Congrats!!! hahaaha!
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra yea and America will soon be being good little boys and girls for the A.U. hahahaha
GoGetDaGimp 1 year ago
@GoGetDaGimp
A.U.....don't know what you're talking about here...
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra yea the AU. American Union.. there is aleady a North American Union. Canada, Mexico, and the United States. based on the EU, haven't u herd of the Amero? haha i told you to do your homework on it b4..
like i said to you, your to stuck in the past to see the fufure ;)
GoGetDaGimp 1 year ago
@GoGetDaGimp
There you go....North America Union NOT American Union. And even if there was such a thing, it would never get off the ground, and it certainly would never be accepted in the good ol' US of A.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@suryavajra like i said your to stuck in the past to see the fufure.. maybe you should read 1984 by george orwell.. funny how pretty much everything he says a about a 3 world superpower is coming true lol.. and do you thing the ppl of the europe wanted the euro?
GoGetDaGimp 1 year ago
@GoGetDaGimp
Maybe it's precisely because I read about the past, that it allows me to make logical deductions about the future.
As for Third world Superpowers, you've had them many times in history. They're merely getting back to where they once were, once upon a time.
suryavajra 1 year ago
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@suryavajra logical deductions about the future? im sorry but there is nothing logical about the way you think about the futuer, and that is because you are not willing to think outside the box. history repeats itself for a reason. so its basically its more War, famine, genocide. mass murder, poverty ext ext ext sound grate..
Third world Superpowers? i said a 3 world superpower.. what i mean is the world is ruled by three superstates
GoGetDaGimp 1 year ago
@suryavajra I have to concur with my learned colleague, NAFTA is not a Union, it is a free trade agreement (the clue is in the name), and even the modest acheivements of NAFTA are a cause of much wailing and nashing of teeth by your democratic party, further intergration, actual union? no chance...
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@callin2427
And judging from the name on your profile, I assume that you are a woman??
Callin, you are pretty far off the mark when it comes to history, that you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn....lol!!!!
suryavajra 1 year ago
Thats true what you say about germanic people im English and have traced my family name Elson like admiral Nelson back to saxony in germany. Apparently saxon tribes populated Britain Hence Anglo saxon. Strange we went to war twice really no wonder Hitler wanted England as an ally although we did beat Napoleon germany being prussia then.
steve1mufc 1 year ago
@callin2427 haha the Brits are not German or germanic we are classed as anglo saxon but we are a mix of Celts, Romans, Anglo saxon and Normans. There was also ppl here long b4 all of them.. and for your info the anglo saxons where not German. Anglo-Saxons settlers were a mixture of people from north Germany, Denmark and northern Holland. Most were Saxons, Angles and Jutes. There were some Franks and Frisians too
GoGetDaGimp 1 year ago
French = Franks = Germans
But I do long for greater German+UK alliance within the EU, If Germany, NL and the UK (top three net contributers to the budget) were to ally we could block French insanity such as the CAP, expansion of the Eurozone to include Greece etc.etc. I do not understand Germany's constant siding with France... Historically UK, NL and Prussia were always natural allies (other than of course a brief period of unpleasantness)
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@suryavajra when you look at an empire its not just about who you conquer. You also look at what that empire has left behind. Not only did the british defeat many european powers in making the empire, but it also planted its people on, what are today, 4 major anglo countries to multiply and flourish. no other empire has done that. the british empire was diverse and successful with the results to see.
callin2427 1 year ago
@callin2427
Well actually the Hellenistic Empire did that back in the day when they left behind many powerful Hellenistic successor kingdoms ie the Ptolemaic of Egypt, Selecuid of Asia, Antgonids of Macedonia, and the kingdom of Epirus. And they flourished for a period of 100-200 years after the death of Alexander....
As for being diverse, one can say the same thing about the old Czarist Empire or that of the Hapsburgs....
suryavajra 1 year ago
The British empire slumbers today under the guise of the commonwealth just waiting for Jerry to stir so we can take the cane from the cupboard and give him a damn good thrashing. wot wot
jacksawild 1 year ago
@jacksawild
LOL!!! The Commonwealth lies in a drunken stupor borne out of its own incompetence.
suryavajra 1 year ago
Long live the Queen !!!
thank you for the video and as we can see more than half of the video were plus's to the Empire, but the negatives were quite bad
Carboose957naptime 1 year ago
Is it just me or was the world a better place when we were running it?
The problem is that the current Hegemon is too powerful, whereas the BE was built on a shoestring by a tiny island nation, who always realised the necessity of negotiation and of allies and very rarely took unilateral action.
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago 5
"who always realised the necessity of negotiation and of allies and very rarely took unilateral action".
Is this true? What about 'splendid isolation'? The Zulu wars, the Boers Wars, Amritsar, Suez? I suspect the BE was as much built on arrogance as any empire is.
greenfield99 1 year ago
Splendid Isolation - a myth! To my knowledge there was only major war the BE fought alone, that was the US Revolution and look how that turned out! Contrary to most US opinion that was fought versus US, France, Spain and the Netherlands, it is highly doubtful that the Colonists could have done it alone. (Suez: UK, F, Is, Amritsar: was an 'internal' rebelion, Zulu wars - a bit one sided! Boer Wars is a good example of rare unilateralism, caused by the BE seriously underestimating the Afrikaners)
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
Probably half of the American Revolution was fight by the colonists against the British without the official support of allies. From the first shots at Lexington and Concord all the way to the Battle of Saratoga, the Continental Army and the various colonial militias were fighting alone.
suryavajra 1 year ago
Otherwise known as the half they were losing, Saratoga was the first win in a string of defeats. The war lasted 1776 to 1783, the French supported the colonists materially from the very beginning entered the war in 1778, by my count that ain't half even in purely chronological terms...
Do you believe the colonists could have won without French / international assistance? While that scenario is up for debate, to say the colonists did it alone is just not true...
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
That is only part way right. There were French soldiers and officers who came over and fought for the cause, like Marquis de Lafayette. But it was only after Saratoga that the French crown officially supported the Patriot cause.
I think the Patriots would of inflicted such bloodshed and mayhem against the Brits, that eventually other powers would of come in and joined the Americans in driving out the Brits.
suryavajra 1 year ago
No the French crown supported the colonists with arms and cash - it was French made muskets they were firing at the redcoats. There is another argument that the revolution was never as clear cut as since presented, there were a great many "undecideds". Had international support not arrived, the rebels could well have found their support withering, likewise French involvement cemented British intransigence and a compromise may otherwise have been possible
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
Well really it was clandestine support. Think about it. Using your logic, you would think that any guy firing an AK-47 is getting backing from the Russian government. That is not neccesarily true there!!
In this case there was covert support. Arms and funding. But remember there's a difference in degree between covert support and all-out, open alliances.
Remember one more thing. The British had their chance to come to a compromise and squandered it.
suryavajra 1 year ago
The AK47 argument doesn't hold water: the French shipped arms and cash to the rebels from the outset. Which you admit. They actively entered the war in 78 and played a pivotal role at Yorktown. which is widely seen as "the beginning of the end" for the Brits. Surely you can't argue with my original point, "the rebels did not do it alone"!
But I certainly can't argue that Lord North made a pigs ear of it and could on many occasions have reached a compromise but refused to negotiate.
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
Well to use an analogy, The Russians and Chinese sent many, many weapons to the tribes and insurgency groups in sub-saharan Africa. Some whom they officially supported, and some they supported under the table, if you will. The arms by themselves do not specifically indicate overt and official support.
I'd say this about the Patriots. Whether you make the argument that they did it alone or did it with the help of many allies, that in and of itself is going on a tangent.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
I think that until the Boston Massacre, probably for another one or two years, the British authorities could of settled the problem in the colonies at the negotiating table. But from atleast what I had been taught at school, by 1773 and 1774 it became more and more clear that there would be no compromise...
suryavajra 1 year ago
Many would say later than that, Jefferson and moderates on both sides bemoaned the lack of a peaceful solution right up to Treaty of Paris. Nice debating with you, an erudite chap like you may enjoy Laurence James' Rise and Fall of the British Empire, didn't much care for the last third myself ;o)
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
It's been great talking to you as well!!! I'd love to check it out!
But yeah...who knows what might have happened if there was a compromise. I remember reading somewhere that the reason the whole Dominion concept was developed was because of the American Revolution.
I also enjoyed watching the movie about George III for the first time on Public TV. Never knew how hard the American Revolution hit him.
suryavajra 1 year ago
I was going to say "If only we'd had Lord Durham" but thought the reference too obscure!
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
What was this about Lord Durnham?? Was he a moderate in the Parliament??
suryavajra 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
Oh I see the context!! He must have been the guy who pioneered the concept?
suryavajra 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
The problem is, that you are looking at this in a conventional mindset. If your objective was to defeat in the Continental Army in more battles, you did that. But that doesn't mean you were on the verge of crushing the Revolution or even crushing the Continental Army. It's one thing to defeat an army in a series of engagements and it's another to completely destroy them. Washington knew this and shrewdly applied the Fabian strategy.
suryavajra 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
Amsristar and internal rebellion?? LOL!!!!!
Riiiiight. More like an internal massacre....
suryavajra 1 year ago
Of course the consequences were a massacre and indefensible, my point was that the cause was rebellion, not unilateral action. And Amritsar death count: 379, consequences of a poorly executed exit, 1M dead, yes I'd say the latter was worse...
You could argue that the famines under British rule (greater loss of life) were the greatest crime, especially as there has been none on that scale since independence, but there is no evidence to suggest they were deliberate, the Raj was just incompetent.
Pithyoneliner 1 year ago
@Pithyoneliner
The Raj knew exactly what was happening. Infact let me give them credit where credit's due. When the Bengal famine broke out, Viceroy Lord Wavell begged Churchill for any and all assitance. So in one instance they were trying. But White Hall itself refused any and all aid. Churchill goes so far to add, ''Why isn't Gandhi dead yet?''
As for the cause, it was not a rebellion. The cause were people gathering and protesting their grievances in which a rogue general
suryavajra 1 year ago