Under-rated according to whom? Cannonball was always among the very top masters in my book. Ask any good saxophonist if they don't study Cannonball, impossible. No band swings like this one.
Under-rated according to whom? Cannonball was always among the very top masters in my book. Ask any good saxophonist if they don't Cannonball, impossible. T
I happened to wait on Cannonball's sister-in-law at a gardening center! She said her family always called him Julian, and she had some wonderful stories about him. She said they missed him every single day. I told her I hoped she would write these remembrances down one day. She said to promote jazz in the schools, the sooner the better. Cheers!
I say Bird was the greatest of all time for his innovation and creativity. But Cannonball had that and a more soulful expression, so I list him as my personal favorite. I like the stuff in the first half of his recorded output '55 to '65 best.
Actually, that song is "scotch and water", the Zawinul tune Cannon was introducing right before it starts playing. It's on the Live in New York album that this clip is about
i personally think he was better than bird. don't get me wrong, bird s unbelievable but i just think that cannonball's sound is better all around the horn.
Bird uses the same exact licks in every single solo. it gets old after a while. Cannonball always hits you with a curveball. That is why I like him more.
1. Really you think Cannonball was better. I don't really think you can compare them. I think in there own way they were both equally great. Canonball's blues and Birds blues show a different approach. Cannonball uses a lot of false fingerings which sounds great but Bird is the king of bebop rhythmic playing - Cannonball sounds academic in comparison. Cannonball is more imaginative at up tempo - (charlie uses a lot of clinched phrases especially in his later up tempo stuff).
2. On ballards the opposite happens. Bird is the greatest of all the Bebop ballard players - very imaginative. His note choices on the slow stuff is superior to Cannonball. (in my opinion). Cannonball's sax tone is much more consistant than Bird and so his his technique(Drug use really affects Birds playing). However poor technique with charlie Parker did not mean poor performance - His ballards usually become more intense and emotional. (see My little suede shoes hi hat 1953 live recording)
3. If you had said 'I prefer Cannonball Adderley to Charlie Parker' I would have accepted that. However to say he is better is simply wrong. They have both contributed enomously and so in my view they are equals. You can learn as much from listening to either player - and not learn the same things. Thats the beauty of being an individual in this music - you learn an individuals own approach.
- And this is my individual opinion not the Gospel.
@conn6m Cannonball is not the equal of bird for the obvious reason that he is COPYING bird! Innovation is a thousand times harder and more rare than imitation.
@Diomedes22 r u stupid? show me one example in cannonball's solos that are copied from bird. All of bird's solos are remarkably similar. Cannonball on the other hand, never used the same lick twice. dont even try to tell me that cannonball copied bird because that is an insult to his greatness. don't get me wrong. bird was amazing. but i feel like once ive heard one of his solos ive heard all of them.
@minicannonball13 - No Bird, no Cannonball. When Cannonball came to NY, he was considered the second coming of Bird, which had to be frustrating. Listen to the album called "Cannonball Takes Charge". The man says that Bird was playing "everything" and "more" in the video. I know what you mean with Bird's solos, but everytime I hear them, they STILL sound innovative. The fact that so many great musicians were influenced by Bird (Cannonball included) *should* be enough to convince anyone.
@minicannonball13 I'm sorry to say, but no, it's not true that Cannonball never used the same lick twice. Don't get me wrong, he's still my number 1 influence, but he does have some licks that he went to more or less frequently. The difference between his licks and Bird's is that his licks didn't become immortalized because of 1) his lack of notoriety in comparison to Bird (as discussed in the video) and 2) there was never an Adderley Omnibook (except for one that you can't get in stores).
@minicannonball13 You shouldn't say that Cannonball was better than Bird, even if that is your opinion.......comparisons are quite childish, and in very poor taste.
@minicannonball13 I share your opinion, I personally like better Cannonball than Bird, I dont know If one is better than the other one, that really doesn't matter, both are great, I just feel that Julian is more soulful and I just like him better...
@minicannonball13 To paraphrase of quote from Clark Terry, Bird was the assimilator, most were the imitators, but Cannonball and Woods were the innovators.
@minicannonball13 It's hard to compare great artist as they contribute there own interpretations but I loved Cannonball's lyrical style melodic wise. To each his own.
i doubt that, live albums being generally dispensable, with the exception of jerry lee lewis's live at the starclub madman performance. and the most underrated sax player is earl bostic, at least in my book
Cannonball was and will always be a giant...and you don't have to be an alto player to hear the impeccable time, storytelling character and sheer expressiveness of his music. Thanks for putting this up!
I was a drummer in my teens and through college and being such a Cannonball fan, I had this album the day it was released almost. Here, everyone plays his ass off and has there ever been a harder, cooking rhythm section than Sam Jones and Louis Hayes? And I learned that 3/4 could groove hard thanks to these great players. "Gemini" here and from the San Francisco album, "This Here".
I saw this exact band at Shelly's Manne Hole in LA.not long after this album came out.
Great job, OK! I concur, Cannon's not canonized the way he should be. His introductions, alone, are classics (my mom and I shared, and some of his language became ours...)
right on the spot!!! great video. i love cannonball. village vanguard live was one the very first jazz albums i ever bought and still one of my all time favourites.
Cannonball didn't do too badly in the fame stakes. Having a Top Ten hit single in Billboard with 'Mercy, Mercy, Mercy' in 1967 helped raise his profile.
I like your chain and your feeling about Jazz. I played as pianist in the best clubs in Paris and in Europe in the 60's, and had the opportunity to play an evening at the Taboo Club in Paris with Cannonball and Nat. I will send you a mail about this !
The 2nd to last tune that starts at 9:36 is called Planet Earth, written by Yusef Lateef. It's the 3rd track on the "In New York" album mentioned in the video.
I have the live in New York album. It is superb the way the band sounds with Yusef Lateef wading in on tenor.
MAJORSNODGRASS 3 months ago
to me he is the best alto player who ever lived. period. I love bird... but cannonball is cannonball.
standrick 5 months ago
@standrick He has few equals, that's for sure.
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Orin said it all. a genius..
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Under-rated according to whom? Cannonball was always among the very top masters. Ask any real saxophonist if they don't study Cannonball, impossible.
No band swings like this one does! No questions here.
lelakaplowitz 11 months ago
Under-rated according to whom? Cannonball was always among the very top masters in my book. Ask any good saxophonist if they don't study Cannonball, impossible. No band swings like this one.
lelakaplowitz 11 months ago
Under-rated according to whom? Cannonball was always among the very top masters in my book. Ask any good saxophonist if they don't Cannonball, impossible. T
lelakaplowitz 11 months ago
Thanks Bret, loved this..
danzbmw 1 year ago
his music seems strange...can he play yakety sax?
UmbrellaFitzgerald 1 year ago
I don't need the add,s
twochaudio 1 year ago
.....why the hell showed Miles up in the control room, that stupid arrogant fuck!
gogogroovedude 1 year ago
Love Cannoballs music, his album Somethin' Else w/ Miles Davis, Art Blakey Hank and Sam Jones is still one of my top 5 jazz albums.
Hashplant47 1 year ago
Mr Keepnews, you are a treasure! Thank you so much.
Mamasan41 1 year ago
I happened to wait on Cannonball's sister-in-law at a gardening center! She said her family always called him Julian, and she had some wonderful stories about him. She said they missed him every single day. I told her I hoped she would write these remembrances down one day. She said to promote jazz in the schools, the sooner the better. Cheers!
Mamasan41 1 year ago
こんなところでオリン・キープニュースの声が聴けるとは思わなかった。Great!
jintakah 1 year ago
One of my greatest idols of all time!! Thanks for uploading this!
lipsman92 1 year ago
cut to the music!
goldbeachsurfer 1 year ago
I say Bird was the greatest of all time for his innovation and creativity. But Cannonball had that and a more soulful expression, so I list him as my personal favorite. I like the stuff in the first half of his recorded output '55 to '65 best.
yurei8 1 year ago
I lllllllllllllllloooovecannonball adderly !! Sounds like the best jazz I ever heard!
HEADBANGING69 1 year ago
What's the name of that blues at 3:50?
XxSaxCannon921xX 2 years ago
its called Joe's Avenue
danfarrant1 2 years ago
What album is it on?
XxSaxCannon921xX 2 years ago
I'm not sure what cannonball album its from but i think its by Wynton Kelly and is on the albums Takin Charge and Pot Luck
danfarrant1 2 years ago
Actually, that song is "scotch and water", the Zawinul tune Cannon was introducing right before it starts playing. It's on the Live in New York album that this clip is about
deathofrats2000 1 year ago
@deathofrats2000 Yeah, ended up finding it somehow haha
XxSaxCannon921xX 1 year ago
A Cannonball Adderley's song played by Bill Evans and called "Know what I mean?".
bnicolas85 2 years ago
オープニングの曲はなんて曲ですか?
教えてください!
dukeekudcba 2 years ago
"Bill Evans" の "Know what I mean?"っていう曲です。
bnicolas85 2 years ago
Great vid, thanks Jazz Video Guy
Eorthecuz 2 years ago
"Miles Davis showed up to stand in the control room and glare at people in the studio."
priceless
gcrav 2 years ago 4
hiya,
does anyone know the song thats playin at the end (around 10:00 ? )
Hela. awesome.
g x
Faeriepunk23 2 years ago
@Faeriepunk23 "Blue Soul" by Blue Mitchell
chivasmexicano1 10 months ago
you guys are all douches..
just shut up and listen!
tracylee1981 2 years ago
Most great players of every instrument play the same licks. the really great ones use them in different ways each time. Byrd did.
4578a 2 years ago 3
mmmm... lo dudo
Nestorchumbo 2 years ago
Cannonball has such awesome voice. And hes an insane player freakin ridiculos
turnerdj 2 years ago
My all time favorite Altoist.........Cannonball Adderly.
peppersax 2 years ago
Great subject.
Very well done documentary.
Thanks for the energy invested & the sharing of the knowledge.
WorldGroovesVidz 2 years ago
Thanks to jazzvideoguy for posting these vids!
jazzmunky 2 years ago
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jazzmunky 2 years ago
wow he was amazing nearing altoist to bird, kenny garrett comes close tho
Rugt980 2 years ago
i personally think he was better than bird. don't get me wrong, bird s unbelievable but i just think that cannonball's sound is better all around the horn.
minicannonball13 2 years ago
Both Bird and Cannonball left us much, much, too soon.
JazzVideoGuy 2 years ago 8
@JazzVideoGuy Just saw this, and all I can say is, "Be serious!"
jamesdiggs 1 year ago
i prefer to hear cannonball's tone but i love to hear birds amazing very uptempo stuff, like ko ko and anthropology
Rugt980 2 years ago
Bird uses the same exact licks in every single solo. it gets old after a while. Cannonball always hits you with a curveball. That is why I like him more.
minicannonball13 2 years ago
1. Really you think Cannonball was better. I don't really think you can compare them. I think in there own way they were both equally great. Canonball's blues and Birds blues show a different approach. Cannonball uses a lot of false fingerings which sounds great but Bird is the king of bebop rhythmic playing - Cannonball sounds academic in comparison. Cannonball is more imaginative at up tempo - (charlie uses a lot of clinched phrases especially in his later up tempo stuff).
conn6m 2 years ago
2. On ballards the opposite happens. Bird is the greatest of all the Bebop ballard players - very imaginative. His note choices on the slow stuff is superior to Cannonball. (in my opinion). Cannonball's sax tone is much more consistant than Bird and so his his technique(Drug use really affects Birds playing). However poor technique with charlie Parker did not mean poor performance - His ballards usually become more intense and emotional. (see My little suede shoes hi hat 1953 live recording)
conn6m 2 years ago
3. If you had said 'I prefer Cannonball Adderley to Charlie Parker' I would have accepted that. However to say he is better is simply wrong. They have both contributed enomously and so in my view they are equals. You can learn as much from listening to either player - and not learn the same things. Thats the beauty of being an individual in this music - you learn an individuals own approach.
- And this is my individual opinion not the Gospel.
Thanks Jazzvidoguy. Great Vid 5*
conn6m 2 years ago 5
@conn6m Cannonball is not the equal of bird for the obvious reason that he is COPYING bird! Innovation is a thousand times harder and more rare than imitation.
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 r u stupid? show me one example in cannonball's solos that are copied from bird. All of bird's solos are remarkably similar. Cannonball on the other hand, never used the same lick twice. dont even try to tell me that cannonball copied bird because that is an insult to his greatness. don't get me wrong. bird was amazing. but i feel like once ive heard one of his solos ive heard all of them.
minicannonball13 1 year ago
@minicannonball13 - No Bird, no Cannonball. When Cannonball came to NY, he was considered the second coming of Bird, which had to be frustrating. Listen to the album called "Cannonball Takes Charge". The man says that Bird was playing "everything" and "more" in the video. I know what you mean with Bird's solos, but everytime I hear them, they STILL sound innovative. The fact that so many great musicians were influenced by Bird (Cannonball included) *should* be enough to convince anyone.
holygroove2 11 months ago
@minicannonball13 I'm sorry to say, but no, it's not true that Cannonball never used the same lick twice. Don't get me wrong, he's still my number 1 influence, but he does have some licks that he went to more or less frequently. The difference between his licks and Bird's is that his licks didn't become immortalized because of 1) his lack of notoriety in comparison to Bird (as discussed in the video) and 2) there was never an Adderley Omnibook (except for one that you can't get in stores).
mgafney 10 months ago
@minicannonball13 You shouldn't say that Cannonball was better than Bird, even if that is your opinion.......comparisons are quite childish, and in very poor taste.
TheRealKurtJames 1 year ago
@minicannonball13 I share your opinion, I personally like better Cannonball than Bird, I dont know If one is better than the other one, that really doesn't matter, both are great, I just feel that Julian is more soulful and I just like him better...
santuchoselpink 1 year ago
@minicannonball13 To paraphrase of quote from Clark Terry, Bird was the assimilator, most were the imitators, but Cannonball and Woods were the innovators.
1979saxman 1 year ago
@minicannonball13 Can you also think unpersonally?
walt7500 1 year ago
@minicannonball13 It's hard to compare great artist as they contribute there own interpretations but I loved Cannonball's lyrical style melodic wise. To each his own.
billroue 1 year ago
Now remember all you kiddies out there, funk had a different meaning back then. LOL!
Nice to see some cats out here in all of this new technology...
Thanx JVG!
FlamingoReaper 2 years ago 5
The most underrated sax player of all time! Nothing beats a live cannonball album.
jbowers2208 2 years ago 18
Amen!
JazzVideoGuy 2 years ago 2
i doubt that, live albums being generally dispensable, with the exception of jerry lee lewis's live at the starclub madman performance. and the most underrated sax player is earl bostic, at least in my book
stijnhouwer 2 years ago
i'm gonna have to throw in my vote for Steve Marcus
FLsaxman007 2 years ago
@jbowers2208 so true!
analbleediscool 1 year ago
@jbowers2208 I don't think he's underrated. Everybody knows he's a beast. He's pretty well known, as opposed to someone like Richie Cole.
mharbaugh 1 year ago
@jbowers2208 underrated!! i don't believe he is, most jazz lovers will tell you he sits right beside Charlie Parker. imho, no offense.
markseez 1 year ago
Cannonball was and will always be a giant...and you don't have to be an alto player to hear the impeccable time, storytelling character and sheer expressiveness of his music. Thanks for putting this up!
jmcgann00 2 years ago 7
I was a drummer in my teens and through college and being such a Cannonball fan, I had this album the day it was released almost. Here, everyone plays his ass off and has there ever been a harder, cooking rhythm section than Sam Jones and Louis Hayes? And I learned that 3/4 could groove hard thanks to these great players. "Gemini" here and from the San Francisco album, "This Here".
I saw this exact band at Shelly's Manne Hole in LA.not long after this album came out.
WestLAGuy 2 years ago 11
Those of us who lucky enough to hear this band live will NEVER forget it.
JazzVideoGuy 2 years ago 2
Whats the song at 9:40?!?!
elimenohpee182 2 years ago
"Planet Earth" from the album "In New York".
middlebit 2 years ago 3
"Something Else" in top 10 all time greatest jazz LPs
livegems 2 years ago 3
Great job, OK! I concur, Cannon's not canonized the way he should be. His introductions, alone, are classics (my mom and I shared, and some of his language became ours...)
UpSurgePix 2 years ago
nice
fireislandcats 3 years ago
right on the spot!!! great video. i love cannonball. village vanguard live was one the very first jazz albums i ever bought and still one of my all time favourites.
manolis29 3 years ago
Yes, it was an early favorite of mine, as well, which is why making this video was BIG FUN
JazzVideoGuy 3 years ago
Great video. Very interesting!
michaels337 3 years ago
the best of the keepnews collection is thelonious monk orchestra at town hall
communistmusic 3 years ago
either that or the incredible guitar of wes montgomery
communistmusic 3 years ago
Thanks sooo much for this! Amazing video!!
jaleelshaw 3 years ago
Charlie Parker bequeathed "Cannonball" his boots & he wore them well. Just listen to Barefoot Sunday Blues or Autumn Leaves.
freddo1939 3 years ago 2
Cannonball didn't do too badly in the fame stakes. Having a Top Ten hit single in Billboard with 'Mercy, Mercy, Mercy' in 1967 helped raise his profile.
Fnarge 3 years ago
Cannonball's my favorite alto player.
rockrhapsody123 3 years ago
let's not worry about cannonball's name being lesser known than perhaps it should have.
to anyone deep into jazz he's at the top and always will.
PRAISE THE GIFT TO HUMANITY!
patrickgamil 3 years ago
God, I love Bill Evans and Cannonball together.
First song is Know What I mean, the title of the album.
soraferret 3 years ago
I like your chain and your feeling about Jazz. I played as pianist in the best clubs in Paris and in Europe in the 60's, and had the opportunity to play an evening at the Taboo Club in Paris with Cannonball and Nat. I will send you a mail about this !
musipass 3 years ago
victor feldman was awesome played piano and vibes
dreadtodred 3 years ago
Yes he was born and raised in the UK he played with Ronnie Scott then moved to USA
Another great couple from UK were (ARE) Jonny Danworth and his wife Cleo Laine (Who I met)
sealerdave 3 years ago
P.s.
JazzVideoGuy posts the best videos. Thankyou
MontgomerylandFunk 3 years ago 3
what a great player
mhdalboukhari 3 years ago 3
whats the first song during the credits called?
its the second to last song in the whole video
damonomania 3 years ago
'Unit 7' by Sam Jones.
BuckshotLaFunke 3 years ago
Nice tune.
MontgomerylandFunk 3 years ago
sam jones was heavy duty
dreadtodred 3 years ago
The 2nd to last tune that starts at 9:36 is called Planet Earth, written by Yusef Lateef. It's the 3rd track on the "In New York" album mentioned in the video.
ClaytonDuncan 3 years ago
thank you
damonomania 3 years ago
5 stars
CbobbyB 3 years ago 2
this is awesome. The 1st piece of music - I ever owned. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Everydayguytv 3 years ago 2
Orrin is a live enciclopaedia. How about putting his videos for sale ?
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Growald 3 years ago
If he was alive, he would have been a terrific spokesman for Jazz. Great Cannon!
seiyuhosono 3 years ago
Wonderful.
lilbits 3 years ago 3