i was there and even i dont know the full truth. dont start pointing fingers until you are absolutly sure and have seen things with your own eyes. this is disrespectful to everyone that died there. atf and branch davidians
for the people going inside the building. the tanks were never fired. they used crvs to break through walls. people were allowed to escape. we shot holes in the walls with tear gas big enough for people to come out. we did make mistakes that day. we are agents of an agency that not many people know of, not soldiers, we were scared as hell. we never had that many people at one location. the only way you know the full truth is if you were there, and only then you might not know the full truth.
military troops:military equipment. theres a difference. the dude looked when he shot. people were shooting back at the atf. the atf was doing a very poor job. the comment about the guy shooting himself: even professionals make mistakes. how do you know they shot a dog. when you dont see rounds hitting the ground, it could be that they were hitting in front of the cars, poor video quality, or the fact that the atf were shooting at the people inside, makin them cover and creating a distraction
Oh yeah...did you see the fucking clown shoot himself in the leg? Practicing for months and you shoot yourself. Fucking idiot! Hey pal, cover me will ya?
Those pussies shot a mother dog and her puppies...you can hear them barking in the beginning of the film. With all of their kevlar, ballistic helmets and automatic weapons they were apparently afraid of a dog bite. How cowardly, just like the way they huddled against eachother behind their cars. You know they were all gung-ho before the raid, ready to pop their cherries. What a bunch of amateur faggot-ass bitches.
I don't see any shots hitting the ground but how could you with this terrible less than VHS quality video? We also only got to see about 5-10 seconds of video, so how can the narrator honestly suggest that the ATF shot first? There should be video of the ATF and FBI pulling up for the very first time THEN watch to see who shot first. I can't imagine the ATF or FBI lacking the sense to go into the compound of a religious group, expecting to be shot at. This is just crazy. And to speculate about
Also when the agent on the roof opened fire with his weapon it was almost at the exact same time rounds began going through the wall at him. Perhaps he was trying to cover the wounded agents inside. It showed him toss something in the room like a grenade. Could it not have been ammunition for the agents inside or possibly a medical kit since they were just shot and all would later die. Her "facts" are nothing more than hearsay. This shootout will forever be a great controversy.
The commentator of this video said multiple times that the ATF began firing and not the besieged. However, you then stated that the 4th ATF agent was killed prior to the raid when dismounting from the arriving convoy, meaning that the people inside initiated the firefight. And her "knowledge" of a gun fight is flawed. She stated you can't see the rounds impacting the ground when viewing the front. Just because you can't see the impacts doesn't mean they weren't being fired upon.
So they had guns right? They were protecting their home against unlawful entry. 2nd and 4th amendments. What were the atf agents there for? The atf agents fired first.
@PennHoo .. the local sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer in any jurisdication & could have served the search warrant weeks before. They didn't need the BATF to go in with guns blazing.
Yours is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on Youtube.
@ericssson I did look.. I don't buy it.. And "asshole" is one word.. Unless your not allowed to cuss in front of your mommy so you break it into two words so as not to get in trouble. If I wanted a real conspiracy I'd try to figure out whether to not you were breast fed or just a faggot
How is it that 3 agents that used to be Clinton's body guards happened to be on the same team that went in threw that same window and died, was the 4th agent who stayed outside that window also Clinton's body guard? How was that 4 man team picked for this operation? were the 3 agents bodies recovered, what was the cause of there death?
I like how all examples verified with video are cut off before a complete analysis can be made. This lady who is narrating must have been filled with Koresh Kum....
ATF is incompetently trained in weapons and proceedure. It's the blind training the blind. They have no combat experience. It is a bunch of college civilians playing Swat. They kill their own partners and any local police that dare to go with them on a raid.
TheBrody5@ Oh yeah this video is crap and the cnn version is genuine and true so shut the fuck up and go back to bed because cnn has figured out the whole story for ya ;)
fullonred1@ No you are the ignorant retard for believing EVERYTHING your government and establishment tell you. You should have seen the burned babies but let me guess they were conspiracy retards to and deserved it
@gotgank ok what did two that dide out side sit out so long one on the fence line and tower i dont know the how far that is but if you storm a place you take out the geards first ie the two fbi shoot first then make up faxs
thay go just keep it in mine for the next fuck thay do thay try with me and did not work by way fuck bush
@AngeredKabar WHY? The whole idea was a search warrant for illegal guns. No way could they get away with just shooting him in the opening seconds. ONE of the agents would have talked.
Thats how u know the US govt didnt do 911. Too many ppl would have been involved, and NO ONE has talked? Nah.
@Muxxyy there are no caves in Saudi Arabia, only luxury high rises, sprawling mansions and multi million dollar estates. The 911 hijackers were Saudi Arabian not goat herding, cave dwelling poor ass Taliban Afghans.
If someone was coming at my children with auto-weapons and tear gas I would shoot back too. More than once this man invited people to look around the house and talk anyone they wanted. Why would they throw tear gas in knowing there were children inside if they cared so much about those childrens welfare?
You Militia and Patriots you should have attacked after Waco. You had your chance. You missed your opportunity, because everyone hated the government. They saw how they murdered those women and children. You could have attacked Capitol Hill when they were voting on giving Israel more aid. You let them murder those children for nothing and now you let them pull off 9/11. What are you waiting for? If it's martial law you are screwing up. Your country will be full blown Communism in a year.
Anyone who saw the immediate network footage saw the bullets penetrating from under the roof hitting the agents. I felt ATF mounted an amateur and clownish raid (some with auto pistols only), but the bitch commenting on this video has no idea what she was talking about. It's laughable when she states that rhey tossed smoke grenades in - why would they impair their vision upon entry? Ridiculous tripe. Wow what propaganda!
Not many people care about this because they bought into the mass media lies but whether you care about it or not, understanding what the gov did at Waco and following it is the KEY to understanding OKC, the 93 bombing of the WTC and 9-11.
Go to MEXICO!!! The cartels will kill you in a matter of months. All of the agents that entered that room were killed by a gun man standing in that room. Thats why the agent fired shots into the room and why bullets came flying out of the buildings and through the walls.
Wow how can ppl believe what this person is saying... maybe part of the video was a training vid. Maybe when the 3 ppl go in and then they get shot later and that one other dude starts to shoot at the ppl who shot the first three ppl and leaves cause he gets shot also those waco ppl could of had guns and our government was just being cautios that's why they went all out.
ATF are a bunch of Pussy's. Colleuge Degree soldiers are what they are. No experience. LOl they were backing up hands raised. Retreating Bitches. If you want to conduct a Raid properly that you know is going to Be a shootout. Use Delta Force Operatives and Rangers. Thats what they are good at ....RAIDS. The Capture of a HVT...Not ATF
never has the atf used fully automactic rifles the 3 atf agents were already dead david koreshs room was right nxt to the room they went in 2 and he fired through the walls into them
Oh my God this perhaps this is worst doc. I have ever seen, and I'm 5 min in. The creators of this vid obviously have no knowledge of tactics..... at all. "Three bullet holes appear at the same time!" Face/palm
ROFL, why would the agent continue up the ladder if he'd just shot himself in the leg? There's also no proof at 5:05 that the agent on the roof is firing his weapon. I think he is just trying to see what is happening inside but is hampered by the large curtain and then he is shot by the dividians who have already killed the 3 agents who entered. The commentary is all so suggestive and not actually based on what can be seen in the video.
Lol this narrator is a fucking idiot, obviously with ZERO knowledge of military/police breaching techniques. Get the stick out of your ass Ms. NPR, read a book about standard military/police tactics.
"MP5 and M16 machine guns used by the agents" what a bunch of idiots. Assault rifle and SMG. Obviously no bullets hit the ground in front of the agents because the suppressive fire is working....
My late husband saw this a sick thing. Not as to the davidians but the ATF. He was happy the day that OK city bombing occured. At the time I thought he thought too much, now i've seen it all; trials, etc. change of record from the davidians to the sheriff; he was right. Meaning my husband. i would say rest his peace, but i'm an athiest, but he couldn't have found a better wife. I went to church and never told him.
Honestly people, its not that big of a deal. It was more than 10 years ago. Sure some innocent people died. Who said we live in a perfect country? I feel bad for anyone who dwells on this incident and actually feels anger over it.
For everyone blaming the ATF, please STFU. Also no I'm not WHITE! What the US government did here is correct. Kill a disease before it spreads. Please go research before you post anything up. I bet 95% of the people posting werent even 10 when this Waco incident happened. I know I wasn't! Also if you were over 10 when this happened, chances are your'e too old school to know how to post on youtube. You might be using a type writer!
@Invin86rs i was unaware that shooting, burning, and using NERVE gas was the"right thing to do"... why dont YOU go do some research. Stop letting the media tell you everything, go look at independent sources, or even the county sheriff from waco, or the people that did survive. THEN explane how the FUCK the government did the "right thing" "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson.
@Invin86rs I have to agree with lacrosse44 you need to shut the fuck up. Go do research and look at both sides of the story and then open your mouth you fucking pussy.
@Invin86rs Elaborate then asswipe (and dont just regurgitate what ignorant people say about cults). Was David koresh and other men of his group really raping women and children OR was it just speculation brought by the U.S. government and media that committed a fallacy of taking some truth and then falsely leading people to believe that one thing led to another concluding that David Koresh is raping women and children?? Dont just haste generalized cults because thats what ignorant people do.
@KINGARTHUR3341 Oh man here we go. First off, how does someone claim to be the messenger for GOD? DK did. Im speaking to a cultist on youtube? Wasting my time, good day sir! Also you like Justin Beiber :(
this video doesn't prove that the Koresh crew didn't fire on ATF first. After further review, the isn't enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. Do I think the authorities could have handled this better, yes. But I hardly think showing video from a perspective where you can not see the suspects isn't enough proof to carry this conspiracy theory. I call this debunking effort, debunked....
"Notice that the police are shooting at the building?" Ya... that's their line lol.
"Notice that no one is shooting at them as they climb the ladders?" Ya... obviously not you fucking moron. Anyone dumb enough to show their face at a window would get instakilled by a sniper. They were hiding inside away from the windows because the ATF had established their front already.
That's called tactics... who made this fucking bullshit.
@246trinitrotoluene exactly, hiding. And the incompetent ATF agents were opening fire on not only koresh and whoever was allegedly helping him, but on innocent kids. what have you seen that proves koresh or anyone fired back? You do realize that if they didn't fire back, they were initially at worst guilty of illegal firearms possession, even that we havn't seen evidence of. ATF failed at tear gas, how do you know they weren't trying to burn them out but went too far by mistake or anger?
They did not give them a chance to go to court. The idea of this operation was to kill them, not to try them in court. I love all the comments on hiw this video is bullshit, even when you see the proof. Second, all the strong opinions against this video are government snitches. If you are not a complete moron, then you are paid to post negative comments to ruin the credibility of such videos.
he was shot in the shoulder not the head and mike was left in a low ditch not on a fence and cmon if all this was to take out a couple agents they would have done it long before...YES they fucked up but its not some govt/clinton/nwo conspiracy thats fuckin stupid
I am absolutely disgusted by some of these comments. ATF needs to be held accountable for their actions and the monkeys that post comments for their support is apalling
This is so sad! I can't believe they planned this attack for months! What exactly was their plan? I don't care what anyone says, this should have not happened. And the ATF should have been more professical, they made to many mistakes.
wtf its human nature to shoot with out looking and yea i would finish a the guy off if he was responsible for killin my friend wtf is this?God, people make quick judgments off of one video that its main focus is to point out things thay did wrong. i dnt understand this they were just doin their job.Who r u to say they should all die because of that. the atf half the time werent being shot at was because they were scared and pinned down half the time they.the people in the house were out numbered
the gov. is shit whats new? I applaud those Two ATF agents that commented on ATF policy, people in other countries are more "free" than here in the "land of the free" if you dont believe me go to Mexico you can do whatever you want there, as long as you dont hurt or kill anyone.
what the drug war? hahaha more people die in the USA because of drug related violence, in Mexico its just sensationalized because as a "Catholic nation" you didnt really hear or see those things in the past, whats going on now is a power struggle of sorts between the Zetas that all the cartels hate and all the "legitimate" cartels, its like a dog biting the hand that feeds, and said dog is a very vicious breed, nevertheless I can assure you the "freedoms" we have in the USA are an illusion.
@0SatampraZeiros0 I think you're misinformed. Having lived in multiple 2nd and 3rd world countries for multiple years each I understand what you're trying to say... but at the same time don't know what you're saying. I know that in mexico (one of the countries in which I've lived) you may be able to buy whores, drugs, guns, or whatever without much police intervention, I feel you'd be hard pressed to enjoy "life, liberty, and property." you'll probably argue, but I don't care.
No comment on conspiracy and whatnot... but that "4th agent" who "Threw something into the window" looked more like he was just dealing with that TITANIUM CURTAIN OF DEATH, trying to draw a bead on someone blasting from in the room.
ummm, the stupid bitch obviously isnt even paying attetntion to what she is saying, she quotes that the military is not allowed to use force against amercian citizens but tanks were brought in from fort hood. last i checked, a tank is not a troop
Historically important document of a major crime. The attacking ATF agents were set up by their superiors. The dead agents probably did not realize that the operation they were ordered to execute was illegal and that they were manipulated by superiors to use unconstitutional -- and in Texas, fully defensible on the part of citizen victims -- excessive force.
obviously at 5:28 and later see that he is indeed ok. wolfuhnter is probably a cop himself. why would i feel sorry for them when they go after US citizens who didnt brake any laws. any officer who goes after women and children with a machine gun doesnt deserve a respect. and the ATF were invited to the compound to see for themself s whats going on there prior to that but they didnt go
hillery clinton wants the u.n small arms treaty taking our inalienable right to defend our selfs the gun control fanatics want this too every case of genocide in the 20th century all ways follows a big gun grab if guns are outlawed il wear a black hat and fly a black flag
"@verbalmilitia It's obvious that you believe every disaster that has happened in these Great United States is a conspiracy and you don't trust our government at all. You don't deserve to live here."
--Only my honest opinion..
jjmlambert 3 days ago
Your honest opinion only show's how little you know of The United States
and what a stupid fucking traitor to your country you
Hey dumbasses, take 30 minutes and watch this video and understand that it is all just one big conspiracy and there is a goal and that goal is world depopulation and world domination. Grow the fuck up.
The American Dream By The Provocateur Network
youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
Half you stupid fuckers don't even know what our constitution, not the document, is of The United States.
Jim Jones thought everything was a conspiracy as well and look how that ended. All you nutjobs need to keep that in mind. Paranoia can lead some to do crazy things and cult leaders define this type of personality.
This is such BS. There are SOOOO many assumptions made by the comentator that this is nothing more than a wild guess.
The Branch Davidions knew what they were doing and got what they deserved. Sad that they draged children into it. If the the ATF did anything wrong here it was trying to reason with madman and madwomen. I mourn the ATF asgents and the Children but thats about it.
lol wow so the atf is free to kill kids..... theres isnt much guessing involved in this, she doesnt reference where she gets her information from, but its actually done by a expert if you check out the waco revolations doc, and research the expert :) haha i would look up his name and all but im way to lazy, and i dont care about you
@sddraguta The Branch Davidions played a big part of what happened that day. The ATF didnt just show up to kill people.
David Koresh was a child raper and he was a control freak. He knew his days were limited and was bound and determined to take his people with him. Just like Jim Jones, he saw HIS end coming and he was to much of a scumbag to face it alone, in a prison cell.
I feel sorry for those poor children but, I think there in Gods arms now, instead of a rapist name Koresh.
@verbalmilitia It's obvious that you believe every disaster that has happened in these Great United States is a conspiracy and you don't trust our government at all. You don't deserve to live here.
I love my government. My government does not lie, it does not torture, it does not keep secrets, it does not practice rendition on its citizens, it does not illegally tax its citizens based on a lie and a scam, it does not imprison 25% of the world's population although they only have 5% of the world's population. My government isn't an Illegal All Powerful Fourth Branch of Government SCAM call the Federal Reserve, when its privately owned. It is a SCAM, grow the fuck up.
@jjmlambert Its obvious when they are government black ops because first of all the whole government is illegitimate and besides, they always make it known, by design as a system of control. If you don't think so Google 93 Wtc Admitted False Flag. Google History of US False Flags sometime.
Don't watch this if you want to keep your head up your ass and pretending that nothing is wrong.
Waco was a mass murder ritual to tell US Citizens that you do not stock pile weapons. The sinking of the Maine was an Inside Job. (admitted) The Gulf of Tonkin LIE never happened. (admitted) OKC was an Inside Job. Waco was an Inside Job. Flight 800 was an Inside Job. The '93 Bombing of the WTC's was an Inside Job. (admitted) The 1998 Embassy Bombings were Inside Jobs. The Bombing of the Cole was an Inside Job. 911 was an Inside Job. 7/7 London was an Inside Job. IRS Plane Attack Inside Job.
The last five 'thwarted' fake CIA Patsy Attacks were Inside Jobs all corresponding with and supposedly directed by this guy, Anwar Al-Alwaki, a US Citizen CIA Agent with a Fake Muslim name they don't even spell right in the lying mainstream military whore media.
Fort Hood, The Underwear Bomber, The Ink Cartridge Bomber were Inside Jobs.
The Gulf Oil Rig Bombing as an Inside Job.
The Federal Reserve Dollar Devaluation Scam is an Inside Job.
I'm not convinced of the opinion in this. To me, the holes did not appear in on the wall simultaneously at all. They appeared to come at the rate of automatic fire.
The "bad editing" could have been a period in which the 3 agents were overpowered and killed. The 4th agent, along this line, would have been attacking those people who had killed/captured his 3 team members and who were now using their guns to shoot through the wall.
ya know i think the bottomline is no one really know what went down..and this David guy brought it on in reality...i think both sides are responsible..and i think children are the true innocent in all this..if folk remember correctly,it was a stand off for ever..it was bound for disaster..what should have been done is ATF should have stood down and in the end lives would have been saved..or maybe not, as this David guy was unstable like Jim Jones was..fuckin religion just sux ass!
It's funny how someone can post a absurd video clip and a bunch of morons who lack much head cheese will believe it as the truth. Koresh hid behind children thinking they would not take his law breaking ass down.. He was wrong. Then you had a bunch of civil servants trying to act like they actually new what they where doing when they did not. If your tactics are bad then it matters not how much you practice them.. Koresh was a sick fuck who killed his followers just like Jim Jones. Not ATF
Trigger-happy Fascist thugs!!! The BATF trained for a deadly encounter and didn't tone down the raid even though they weren't met with resistance... they stormed the house with SWAT combat tactics as in training and they were the aggressors that day!! Media spin and censorship of the media is salt on the wound!!!
i was there and even i dont know the full truth. dont start pointing fingers until you are absolutly sure and have seen things with your own eyes. this is disrespectful to everyone that died there. atf and branch davidians
joshc123ify 1 week ago
for the people going inside the building. the tanks were never fired. they used crvs to break through walls. people were allowed to escape. we shot holes in the walls with tear gas big enough for people to come out. we did make mistakes that day. we are agents of an agency that not many people know of, not soldiers, we were scared as hell. we never had that many people at one location. the only way you know the full truth is if you were there, and only then you might not know the full truth.
joshc123ify 1 week ago
military troops:military equipment. theres a difference. the dude looked when he shot. people were shooting back at the atf. the atf was doing a very poor job. the comment about the guy shooting himself: even professionals make mistakes. how do you know they shot a dog. when you dont see rounds hitting the ground, it could be that they were hitting in front of the cars, poor video quality, or the fact that the atf were shooting at the people inside, makin them cover and creating a distraction
joshc123ify 1 week ago
Oh yeah...did you see the fucking clown shoot himself in the leg? Practicing for months and you shoot yourself. Fucking idiot! Hey pal, cover me will ya?
olafubtub 2 weeks ago
Those pussies shot a mother dog and her puppies...you can hear them barking in the beginning of the film. With all of their kevlar, ballistic helmets and automatic weapons they were apparently afraid of a dog bite. How cowardly, just like the way they huddled against eachother behind their cars. You know they were all gung-ho before the raid, ready to pop their cherries. What a bunch of amateur faggot-ass bitches.
olafubtub 2 weeks ago
@mikemyerz666 I hate commenting on videos on my iPhone, doesn't even post the entire comment!
mikemyerz666 4 weeks ago
I don't see any shots hitting the ground but how could you with this terrible less than VHS quality video? We also only got to see about 5-10 seconds of video, so how can the narrator honestly suggest that the ATF shot first? There should be video of the ATF and FBI pulling up for the very first time THEN watch to see who shot first. I can't imagine the ATF or FBI lacking the sense to go into the compound of a religious group, expecting to be shot at. This is just crazy. And to speculate about
mikemyerz666 4 weeks ago
Also when the agent on the roof opened fire with his weapon it was almost at the exact same time rounds began going through the wall at him. Perhaps he was trying to cover the wounded agents inside. It showed him toss something in the room like a grenade. Could it not have been ammunition for the agents inside or possibly a medical kit since they were just shot and all would later die. Her "facts" are nothing more than hearsay. This shootout will forever be a great controversy.
kadle51 1 month ago
The commentator of this video said multiple times that the ATF began firing and not the besieged. However, you then stated that the 4th ATF agent was killed prior to the raid when dismounting from the arriving convoy, meaning that the people inside initiated the firefight. And her "knowledge" of a gun fight is flawed. She stated you can't see the rounds impacting the ground when viewing the front. Just because you can't see the impacts doesn't mean they weren't being fired upon.
kadle51 1 month ago
So they had guns right? They were protecting their home against unlawful entry. 2nd and 4th amendments. What were the atf agents there for? The atf agents fired first.
jpete3027666 1 month ago
@jpete3027666 well with power comes responsiblyti then if you cross the line comes conciquences
007mikeandike 1 month ago
@jpete3027666 The ATF were serving a valid search warrant on the compound. This may be one of the dumbest videos that I have watched on Youtube.
PennHoo 1 month ago
@PennHoo .. the local sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer in any jurisdication & could have served the search warrant weeks before. They didn't need the BATF to go in with guns blazing.
Yours is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen on Youtube.
panzerkeil 6 days ago
@ericssson I did look.. I don't buy it.. And "asshole" is one word.. Unless your not allowed to cuss in front of your mommy so you break it into two words so as not to get in trouble. If I wanted a real conspiracy I'd try to figure out whether to not you were breast fed or just a faggot
ballisticxbuddha 1 month ago
american incompetence at it's best
ericssson 1 month ago
umm no he was hit on the shoulder lady god this bitch is fuckin stupid
slimshady1997ful 1 month ago
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briandbrian 1 month ago
U would think the pressure of a granade would blow the curtan out the window atleast
killer72084 2 months ago
How is it that 3 agents that used to be Clinton's body guards happened to be on the same team that went in threw that same window and died, was the 4th agent who stayed outside that window also Clinton's body guard? How was that 4 man team picked for this operation? were the 3 agents bodies recovered, what was the cause of there death?
fudgedogbannana 2 months ago
This is beyond stupid.
twobyfour 2 months ago
I like how all examples verified with video are cut off before a complete analysis can be made. This lady who is narrating must have been filled with Koresh Kum....
ballisticxbuddha 2 months ago
@ballisticxbuddha just look ass hole
ericssson 1 month ago
Georgetown puppet Clinton's a mass murderer.
Islandretreat 2 months ago
I think both sides were in the wrong and there couldn't really be a good outcome no matter what happened :/
kingkitty7 2 months ago
i cant believe that dude threw a grenade at his fellow officers and shot at them
JL0183 2 months ago
4:58 "In the midst of this gunfire, three bullet holes appear AT THE SAME TIME!"
Gee, you think it could have been multiple gunmen spraying and praying? What about a shotgun blast? Stupid bitch.
SecretService80 2 months ago
So what is the point, those mad man inside the house were saints ?
uliqed 2 months ago
You can post whatever lie you want here, the religious idiots are dead, and will stay dead!
They took their own kids hostages (many of them kids of the leader, who was also a pedo..) Get the real facts!
Phantombatman 2 months ago
Waco was a complete hoax. David Koresh was a part of it.
anastasia2657 2 months ago
ATF is incompetently trained in weapons and proceedure. It's the blind training the blind. They have no combat experience. It is a bunch of college civilians playing Swat. They kill their own partners and any local police that dare to go with them on a raid.
MindMyLost 3 months ago
You tax dollars at work! This makes me want to move to Iran!
2469jeff 3 months ago
OMFG EVERYONE STOP THE FLAMEWARS
EWillard44 3 months ago
TheBrody5@ Oh yeah this video is crap and the cnn version is genuine and true so shut the fuck up and go back to bed because cnn has figured out the whole story for ya ;)
wishingfreedom 3 months ago
fullonred1@ No you are the ignorant retard for believing EVERYTHING your government and establishment tell you. You should have seen the burned babies but let me guess they were conspiracy retards to and deserved it
wishingfreedom 3 months ago
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hehh666 3 months ago
conspiracy retards...........I
fullonred1 3 months ago
dumb ass agents
spoof1 3 months ago
WAIT WAIT WAIT. An Agent was killed as he EXITED the cattle car?? BEFORE they approached the house?? I guess that answers who shot 1st.
gotgank 4 months ago
@gotgank ok what did two that dide out side sit out so long one on the fence line and tower i dont know the how far that is but if you storm a place you take out the geards first ie the two fbi shoot first then make up faxs
thay go just keep it in mine for the next fuck thay do thay try with me and did not work by way fuck bush
scouttroop291 3 months ago
@gotgank Except that I think an ATF agent opened fire at Koresh from a vehicle as Koresh greeted them at his doorway.
AngeredKabar 2 months ago
@AngeredKabar WHY? The whole idea was a search warrant for illegal guns. No way could they get away with just shooting him in the opening seconds. ONE of the agents would have talked.
Thats how u know the US govt didnt do 911. Too many ppl would have been involved, and NO ONE has talked? Nah.
gotgank 2 months ago
@gotgank so it makes more sense to think that some people in the cave managed to cause 911 with no outside help and NO ONE noticed? good one....
Muxxyy 2 months ago
@Muxxyy Hate to tell u, but at that time, hijacking 4 airliners wasnt that hard. I could have planned it. Airport security was a joke.
gotgank 2 months ago
@gotgank you still believe that airplane fuel is capable of destoying the buildings as it did? really?? do you kno ANYTHING about physics at all?
Muxxyy 2 months ago
@Muxxyy I actually know a great deal about fire fighting and construction. Look up "Metal truss construction".
gotgank 2 months ago
@Muxxyy there are no caves in Saudi Arabia, only luxury high rises, sprawling mansions and multi million dollar estates. The 911 hijackers were Saudi Arabian not goat herding, cave dwelling poor ass Taliban Afghans.
fudgedogbannana 2 months ago
i know they was crazy butt the atf did start the shoot out
jy15963 4 months ago
this video is crap and false
TheBrody5 4 months ago
If someone was coming at my children with auto-weapons and tear gas I would shoot back too. More than once this man invited people to look around the house and talk anyone they wanted. Why would they throw tear gas in knowing there were children inside if they cared so much about those childrens welfare?
EndlessFireStorm 4 months ago
Down with the ATF! Idiots shooting themselves, what a pathetic joke! This is the future of law enforcement in America!
Brilliantatheist 4 months ago
Bring the FBI in to replace the ATF ? The fox minding the chickens.
3 ATF killed to protect some Clinton Dirt ? By a CIA operative within the ATF.
800 K's of coke a week coming in to Mena ? Bill has a nose like a vacume cleaner. ?
Oklahoma City, ? Just to get everybodies mind off Waco.
commins100 4 months ago
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You Militia and Patriots you should have attacked after Waco. You had your chance. You missed your opportunity, because everyone hated the government. They saw how they murdered those women and children. You could have attacked Capitol Hill when they were voting on giving Israel more aid. You let them murder those children for nothing and now you let them pull off 9/11. What are you waiting for? If it's martial law you are screwing up. Your country will be full blown Communism in a year.
amerikaiscommunist 5 months ago
Anyone who saw the immediate network footage saw the bullets penetrating from under the roof hitting the agents. I felt ATF mounted an amateur and clownish raid (some with auto pistols only), but the bitch commenting on this video has no idea what she was talking about. It's laughable when she states that rhey tossed smoke grenades in - why would they impair their vision upon entry? Ridiculous tripe. Wow what propaganda!
channelonesuite 5 months ago
Not many people care about this because they bought into the mass media lies but whether you care about it or not, understanding what the gov did at Waco and following it is the KEY to understanding OKC, the 93 bombing of the WTC and 9-11.
rrrrw999 5 months ago
Go to MEXICO!!! The cartels will kill you in a matter of months. All of the agents that entered that room were killed by a gun man standing in that room. Thats why the agent fired shots into the room and why bullets came flying out of the buildings and through the walls.
mzipperlen 5 months ago
Wow how can ppl believe what this person is saying... maybe part of the video was a training vid. Maybe when the 3 ppl go in and then they get shot later and that one other dude starts to shoot at the ppl who shot the first three ppl and leaves cause he gets shot also those waco ppl could of had guns and our government was just being cautios that's why they went all out.
Corruptedace95 5 months ago
but it was true david bought several fully auto weapons, no i dont think atf should had went in full force.
scor9977 6 months ago
Our Government is the most evil, murderous bunch of degenerates on the face of the earth.
heartfire451 6 months ago
Shame its not a bit louder..
monsoon270275 6 months ago
What ATF did at Waco was an absolute disgrace.
paulrprichard 6 months ago
I feel like someone deliberately made this to make the people sympathizing with the Davidians look like idiots.
WHOOTIEWOO 6 months ago
ATF are a bunch of Pussy's. Colleuge Degree soldiers are what they are. No experience. LOl they were backing up hands raised. Retreating Bitches. If you want to conduct a Raid properly that you know is going to Be a shootout. Use Delta Force Operatives and Rangers. Thats what they are good at ....RAIDS. The Capture of a HVT...Not ATF
dynasticmatt95 6 months ago
never has the atf used fully automactic rifles the 3 atf agents were already dead david koreshs room was right nxt to the room they went in 2 and he fired through the walls into them
SuperTdub2 6 months ago
ATF used a smart strategy of handling this. Much like their ''Fast and Furious'' strategy.
capnhands 7 months ago
Oh my God this perhaps this is worst doc. I have ever seen, and I'm 5 min in. The creators of this vid obviously have no knowledge of tactics..... at all. "Three bullet holes appear at the same time!" Face/palm
historyman9 7 months ago
ROFL, why would the agent continue up the ladder if he'd just shot himself in the leg? There's also no proof at 5:05 that the agent on the roof is firing his weapon. I think he is just trying to see what is happening inside but is hampered by the large curtain and then he is shot by the dividians who have already killed the 3 agents who entered. The commentary is all so suggestive and not actually based on what can be seen in the video.
22ness0hayden 7 months ago
@22ness0hayden
I agree, and the woman narrating is an idiot...
bradleywalters1 6 months ago
OMFG he is NOT firing a MACHINE GUN! This woman is a total idiot...
bradleywalters1 7 months ago
Lol this narrator is a fucking idiot, obviously with ZERO knowledge of military/police breaching techniques. Get the stick out of your ass Ms. NPR, read a book about standard military/police tactics.
bradleywalters1 7 months ago
"MP5 and M16 machine guns used by the agents" what a bunch of idiots. Assault rifle and SMG. Obviously no bullets hit the ground in front of the agents because the suppressive fire is working....
bradleywalters1 7 months ago
My late husband saw this a sick thing. Not as to the davidians but the ATF. He was happy the day that OK city bombing occured. At the time I thought he thought too much, now i've seen it all; trials, etc. change of record from the davidians to the sheriff; he was right. Meaning my husband. i would say rest his peace, but i'm an athiest, but he couldn't have found a better wife. I went to church and never told him.
susanbcork 7 months ago
Honestly people, its not that big of a deal. It was more than 10 years ago. Sure some innocent people died. Who said we live in a perfect country? I feel bad for anyone who dwells on this incident and actually feels anger over it.
wiggabear3 7 months ago
Koresh rules
Vegas1Joker 7 months ago
fake and gay
jjmcsw9923 8 months ago
this video is hippy bullshit.
Jake11bravo 8 months ago
10:00 that is m1 abrams, simple proof that they wanted to kill them all, period.
Moution23 9 months ago
Alright,
More than 50% of all Texans have centerfire to fully-automatic weapons. -Fact.
You don't raid a house because you have "Intelligence" that they may have a automatic weapons cache.
Second, you, don't, open, fire, in the direction of your own men, EVER.
Third, you don't use Incindiery grenades on a wooden house, who would have guessed?
Fourth. ATF, your a bunch of fucking dumbassess who don't know your ass from your brain, oh wait your a branch of the federal gov't. Your good.
hean34 9 months ago
i dont get it every tragedy that happend has some kind of conspiracy why does the goverment do dis ?
MrFERMIN214 9 months ago
For everyone blaming the ATF, please STFU. Also no I'm not WHITE! What the US government did here is correct. Kill a disease before it spreads. Please go research before you post anything up. I bet 95% of the people posting werent even 10 when this Waco incident happened. I know I wasn't! Also if you were over 10 when this happened, chances are your'e too old school to know how to post on youtube. You might be using a type writer!
Invin86rs 9 months ago
@Invin86rs i was unaware that shooting, burning, and using NERVE gas was the"right thing to do"... why dont YOU go do some research. Stop letting the media tell you everything, go look at independent sources, or even the county sheriff from waco, or the people that did survive. THEN explane how the FUCK the government did the "right thing" "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson.
TheLacrosse44 9 months ago
@Invin86rs I have to agree with lacrosse44 you need to shut the fuck up. Go do research and look at both sides of the story and then open your mouth you fucking pussy.
KINGARTHUR3341 8 months ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 I did look at both sides you cult LOL. Cults are diseases, they rape women and children and claim to be Jesus etc...
Invin86rs 8 months ago
@Invin86rs Elaborate then asswipe (and dont just regurgitate what ignorant people say about cults). Was David koresh and other men of his group really raping women and children OR was it just speculation brought by the U.S. government and media that committed a fallacy of taking some truth and then falsely leading people to believe that one thing led to another concluding that David Koresh is raping women and children?? Dont just haste generalized cults because thats what ignorant people do.
KINGARTHUR3341 8 months ago
@KINGARTHUR3341 Oh man here we go. First off, how does someone claim to be the messenger for GOD? DK did. Im speaking to a cultist on youtube? Wasting my time, good day sir! Also you like Justin Beiber :(
Invin86rs 8 months ago
@Invin86rs YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU ARE A WASTE OF MY TIME.. OHH BTW THATS NOT MY VIDEO
KINGARTHUR3341 8 months ago
typicak yanks ,,,shoot first , ask questions later ..nice one "BOYS"
klnine 9 months ago
As an foreign outsider I have to ask the people who made this . What is your point?
MegaWolfgang 10 months ago
This is so fucked up.
SaraCHAIII 10 months ago
this video doesn't prove that the Koresh crew didn't fire on ATF first. After further review, the isn't enough evidence to overturn the call on the field. Do I think the authorities could have handled this better, yes. But I hardly think showing video from a perspective where you can not see the suspects isn't enough proof to carry this conspiracy theory. I call this debunking effort, debunked....
legacylee 10 months ago
Who made this fucking video?
"Notice that the police are shooting at the building?" Ya... that's their line lol.
"Notice that no one is shooting at them as they climb the ladders?" Ya... obviously not you fucking moron. Anyone dumb enough to show their face at a window would get instakilled by a sniper. They were hiding inside away from the windows because the ATF had established their front already.
That's called tactics... who made this fucking bullshit.
246trinitrotoluene 10 months ago
@246trinitrotoluene exactly, hiding. And the incompetent ATF agents were opening fire on not only koresh and whoever was allegedly helping him, but on innocent kids. what have you seen that proves koresh or anyone fired back? You do realize that if they didn't fire back, they were initially at worst guilty of illegal firearms possession, even that we havn't seen evidence of. ATF failed at tear gas, how do you know they weren't trying to burn them out but went too far by mistake or anger?
99Eternal 10 months ago
@99Eternal
I agree that the ATF mishandled this... to the extreme. A complete blunder, but the "proofs" presented in this video are laughable.
If Koresh was a real man he would have surrendered himself to save his family(ies) and taken the fight to the courts.
246trinitrotoluene 10 months ago
@246trinitrotoluene But not in a jury-rigged court filled with sheeple to the brim.
purpleravenstar 10 months ago
@purpleravenstar
why not.
instead of going to jail, he chose death, not for himself, that's not important, but for the people who looked up to and trusted him.
for that, koresh is a fucking dirtbag.
246trinitrotoluene 10 months ago
@246trinitrotoluene
They did not give them a chance to go to court. The idea of this operation was to kill them, not to try them in court. I love all the comments on hiw this video is bullshit, even when you see the proof. Second, all the strong opinions against this video are government snitches. If you are not a complete moron, then you are paid to post negative comments to ruin the credibility of such videos.
rawbarbie 8 months ago
FUCKING COWARDS!!!
Bigbadred23 10 months ago
Theres a hell of a lot of holes in this presentiton. No matter what the truth.
madelefant05 10 months ago
@madelefant05
This video is complete trash.
Anyone with have a brain will see how bad the analysis of the video is.
246trinitrotoluene 10 months ago
David was sleeping with young girls and that alone was enough to cause them to go in there......
sandyhembree 10 months ago
Respond to this video... what does ATF have to do with that? IF your right which your not
CY0PS 10 months ago
@sandyhembree Yeah-that's what the media, police and government said. And we all know, they never lie.
HippyWitchGal 10 months ago
@sandyhembree
yeah go in there
and kill those girls in cold blood
and then squash them with a tank.
The818211187 9 months ago
he was shot in the shoulder not the head and mike was left in a low ditch not on a fence and cmon if all this was to take out a couple agents they would have done it long before...YES they fucked up but its not some govt/clinton/nwo conspiracy thats fuckin stupid
kermit368 11 months ago
@kermit368 wake up fool
CY0PS 10 months ago
why did they do this? why would they deceive us? what would they gain?
someone inform me about why they did tjis?
menacinghat 11 months ago
@menacinghat watch the ruby ridge show and you will see. it is a 5 video show
twitchtwitchreel 11 months ago
OKC was planned too. God Bless Timothy Mcveigh. One of the CIA's finest patsies.
type2s13 11 months ago 13
@type2s13 No bullshit there.
endthedrugwar 9 months ago
I am absolutely disgusted by some of these comments. ATF needs to be held accountable for their actions and the monkeys that post comments for their support is apalling
AryanLCK 11 months ago
This is so sad! I can't believe they planned this attack for months! What exactly was their plan? I don't care what anyone says, this should have not happened. And the ATF should have been more professical, they made to many mistakes.
busaboo 11 months ago
the only thing fake here is the person who posted this shit
michaeldavis678 11 months ago
@michaeldavis678 cash your goldman sachs check SHILL
CY0PS 10 months ago
@letsflogthezog
So if one of your family member was a cop on this raid.
You tell that person he or she,
that they deserves to die.?
wolfhunter8635 1 year ago
wtf its human nature to shoot with out looking and yea i would finish a the guy off if he was responsible for killin my friend wtf is this?God, people make quick judgments off of one video that its main focus is to point out things thay did wrong. i dnt understand this they were just doin their job.Who r u to say they should all die because of that. the atf half the time werent being shot at was because they were scared and pinned down half the time they.the people in the house were out numbered
54hershey 1 year ago
sorry for the three cap
wangdu34 1 year ago
are they really cap ?
wangdu34 1 year ago
the gov. is shit whats new? I applaud those Two ATF agents that commented on ATF policy, people in other countries are more "free" than here in the "land of the free" if you dont believe me go to Mexico you can do whatever you want there, as long as you dont hurt or kill anyone.
0SatampraZeiros0 1 year ago 9
@0SatampraZeiros0 LOL are you serious? Have you seen what has been happening in Mexico recently?
sfljdfiug 8 months ago
what the drug war? hahaha more people die in the USA because of drug related violence, in Mexico its just sensationalized because as a "Catholic nation" you didnt really hear or see those things in the past, whats going on now is a power struggle of sorts between the Zetas that all the cartels hate and all the "legitimate" cartels, its like a dog biting the hand that feeds, and said dog is a very vicious breed, nevertheless I can assure you the "freedoms" we have in the USA are an illusion.
0SatampraZeiros0 8 months ago
@0SatampraZeiros0 If you're so convinced, I'll help you move into a nice apartment in Juarez. Just let me know, I'll help you pack.
dkkhoward 8 months ago
@dkkhoward Im already in Mexico, enjoy whats left of the USA once the dollar bombs.
0SatampraZeiros0 8 months ago
@0SatampraZeiros0 Me alegro entonces, que lo disfrutes ahi en mexico y hare' lo mismo donde estoy yo.
dkkhoward 8 months ago
@0SatampraZeiros0 I think you're misinformed. Having lived in multiple 2nd and 3rd world countries for multiple years each I understand what you're trying to say... but at the same time don't know what you're saying. I know that in mexico (one of the countries in which I've lived) you may be able to buy whores, drugs, guns, or whatever without much police intervention, I feel you'd be hard pressed to enjoy "life, liberty, and property." you'll probably argue, but I don't care.
dkkhoward 8 months ago
and what "liberties" might those be?
0SatampraZeiros0 8 months ago
@0SatampraZeiros0
You know, Canada is not that far away...maybe you should get your ass out. You're not wanted here.
bradleywalters1 7 months ago
@bradleywalters1
boards of canada
EATshitanddrinkbleac 6 months ago
@0SatampraZeiros0 Actually you can kill people in Mexico, if you got enough money.
Imhornydadcomeinside 7 months ago
No comment on conspiracy and whatnot... but that "4th agent" who "Threw something into the window" looked more like he was just dealing with that TITANIUM CURTAIN OF DEATH, trying to draw a bead on someone blasting from in the room.
Beauxdeauxfinglok 1 year ago
ummm, the stupid bitch obviously isnt even paying attetntion to what she is saying, she quotes that the military is not allowed to use force against amercian citizens but tanks were brought in from fort hood. last i checked, a tank is not a troop
hotwing5185 1 year ago
@hotwing5185 surely, remote controlled tanks are not troops
sekulaadam 1 year ago
Historically important document of a major crime. The attacking ATF agents were set up by their superiors. The dead agents probably did not realize that the operation they were ordered to execute was illegal and that they were manipulated by superiors to use unconstitutional -- and in Texas, fully defensible on the part of citizen victims -- excessive force.
pkpapers 1 year ago
All I know is that if I were one of those ATF agents, I would probably kill myself. All of those innocent babies and children...man, how sickening!
whatanightmare1 1 year ago
obviously at 5:28 and later see that he is indeed ok. wolfuhnter is probably a cop himself. why would i feel sorry for them when they go after US citizens who didnt brake any laws. any officer who goes after women and children with a machine gun doesnt deserve a respect. and the ATF were invited to the compound to see for themself s whats going on there prior to that but they didnt go
EXPLOITEDFIGHT 1 year ago
Okay at 5:10: You hear the lady thats talking say : Then the Atf agent is hit with a round.
Then at 5:28: she said he was not hurt.
Really?
They are making these guys sound like hero's.
What about the cops doing their job. that died on the raid
i want this bitch to go and do a story about how the family members felt.
wolfhunter8635 1 year ago
@wolfhunter8635 you got that right my friend
hotwing5185 1 year ago
hillery clinton wants the u.n small arms treaty taking our inalienable right to defend our selfs the gun control fanatics want this too every case of genocide in the 20th century all ways follows a big gun grab if guns are outlawed il wear a black hat and fly a black flag
jamesgnostic 1 year ago
Very interesting! Unfortunately I can't see the third part because it's censured in France -as tends to happen...Wonder what's in part 3...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 year ago
I didnt hear that agent firing into the window...not sayin this aint dirty though lol.
Raskass27 1 year ago
FUKING DIRTY FAG ATF !
mikedk1978 1 year ago
Someone was shooting at them. There's a bullet hole in the panel on the van at 00:21 that was not there at 00:16
muntenated 1 year ago
"@verbalmilitia It's obvious that you believe every disaster that has happened in these Great United States is a conspiracy and you don't trust our government at all. You don't deserve to live here."
--Only my honest opinion..
jjmlambert 3 days ago
Your honest opinion only show's how little you know of The United States
and what a stupid fucking traitor to your country you
are along with any children you may have
because they will never no
any better.
VERBALMILITIA
marc27
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
Hey dumbasses, take 30 minutes and watch this video and understand that it is all just one big conspiracy and there is a goal and that goal is world depopulation and world domination. Grow the fuck up.
The American Dream By The Provocateur Network
youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
Half you stupid fuckers don't even know what our constitution, not the document, is of The United States.
Any government only represents the apathy
or the courage of its citizens.
VERBALMILITIA
marc27
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
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verbalmilitia 1 year ago
Congrats on killing innocent kids!! You guys are are real heros, something we can all look up to.
MrGottabefree 1 year ago
Wow obviously they are being shot at you wern't there, you have no idea what went on other then this very badly edited vid. of the thing.
loganrobison14 1 year ago
Jim Jones thought everything was a conspiracy as well and look how that ended. All you nutjobs need to keep that in mind. Paranoia can lead some to do crazy things and cult leaders define this type of personality.
2727taterbug 1 year ago
@2727taterbug
If you don't know that Jim Jones was a CIA Op then you probably
shouldn't be speaking except to maybe buy stuff.
VERBALMILITIA
marc27
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
THIS IS BULLSHIT
jumbi100 1 year ago
This is such BS. There are SOOOO many assumptions made by the comentator that this is nothing more than a wild guess.
The Branch Davidions knew what they were doing and got what they deserved. Sad that they draged children into it. If the the ATF did anything wrong here it was trying to reason with madman and madwomen. I mourn the ATF asgents and the Children but thats about it.
Scumbag fanatics......
marcusdolby1 1 year ago 2
lol wow so the atf is free to kill kids..... theres isnt much guessing involved in this, she doesnt reference where she gets her information from, but its actually done by a expert if you check out the waco revolations doc, and research the expert :) haha i would look up his name and all but im way to lazy, and i dont care about you
sddraguta 1 year ago
@sddraguta The Branch Davidions played a big part of what happened that day. The ATF didnt just show up to kill people.
David Koresh was a child raper and he was a control freak. He knew his days were limited and was bound and determined to take his people with him. Just like Jim Jones, he saw HIS end coming and he was to much of a scumbag to face it alone, in a prison cell.
I feel sorry for those poor children but, I think there in Gods arms now, instead of a rapist name Koresh.
marcusdolby1 1 year ago
WOW, verbalmilitia, paranoid much? i recommend (and im not a Dr) that you get back on your meds. it would be for your own good
hotwing5185 1 year ago 2
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taking Action online as a Group.
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
@verbalmilitia It's obvious that you believe every disaster that has happened in these Great United States is a conspiracy and you don't trust our government at all. You don't deserve to live here.
--Only my honest opinion..
jjmlambert 1 year ago
@jjmlambert
I love my government. My government does not lie, it does not torture, it does not keep secrets, it does not practice rendition on its citizens, it does not illegally tax its citizens based on a lie and a scam, it does not imprison 25% of the world's population although they only have 5% of the world's population. My government isn't an Illegal All Powerful Fourth Branch of Government SCAM call the Federal Reserve, when its privately owned. It is a SCAM, grow the fuck up.
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
@jjmlambert Its obvious when they are government black ops because first of all the whole government is illegitimate and besides, they always make it known, by design as a system of control. If you don't think so Google 93 Wtc Admitted False Flag. Google History of US False Flags sometime.
Don't watch this if you want to keep your head up your ass and pretending that nothing is wrong.
The American Dream By The Provocateur Network
youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU
VERBALMILITIA
marc27
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
foxnews. com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-dined-pentagon-months/
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
The last five 'thwarted' fake CIA Patsy Attacks were Inside Jobs all corresponding with and supposedly directed by this guy, Anwar Al-Alwaki, a US Citizen CIA Agent with a Fake Muslim name they don't even spell right in the lying mainstream military whore media.
Fort Hood, The Underwear Bomber, The Ink Cartridge Bomber were Inside Jobs.
The Gulf Oil Rig Bombing as an Inside Job.
The Federal Reserve Dollar Devaluation Scam is an Inside Job.
Our Words are Weapons,
Our Ammo, the Truth.
marc27
verbalmilitia 1 year ago
Waco the big lie HAHAHA, what a moron, the davidians fired first and the ATF returned fire, you get what you ask for
hotwing5185 1 year ago
Notice that you need to shut the fuck up
SGTCHEETO420 1 year ago
I'm not convinced of the opinion in this. To me, the holes did not appear in on the wall simultaneously at all. They appeared to come at the rate of automatic fire.
The "bad editing" could have been a period in which the 3 agents were overpowered and killed. The 4th agent, along this line, would have been attacking those people who had killed/captured his 3 team members and who were now using their guns to shoot through the wall.
arthurneddysmith 1 year ago
ya know i think the bottomline is no one really know what went down..and this David guy brought it on in reality...i think both sides are responsible..and i think children are the true innocent in all this..if folk remember correctly,it was a stand off for ever..it was bound for disaster..what should have been done is ATF should have stood down and in the end lives would have been saved..or maybe not, as this David guy was unstable like Jim Jones was..fuckin religion just sux ass!
ltuomela 1 year ago
It's funny how someone can post a absurd video clip and a bunch of morons who lack much head cheese will believe it as the truth. Koresh hid behind children thinking they would not take his law breaking ass down.. He was wrong. Then you had a bunch of civil servants trying to act like they actually new what they where doing when they did not. If your tactics are bad then it matters not how much you practice them.. Koresh was a sick fuck who killed his followers just like Jim Jones. Not ATF
SuperBigblue19 1 year ago
@SuperBigblue19 yeeeeeeeea...funny i posted then read yours..seems we are on the same page..and that is common sense...
ltuomela 1 year ago
Trigger-happy Fascist thugs!!! The BATF trained for a deadly encounter and didn't tone down the raid even though they weren't met with resistance... they stormed the house with SWAT combat tactics as in training and they were the aggressors that day!! Media spin and censorship of the media is salt on the wound!!!
threepercenter03 1 year ago
The ATF fighting an imaginary battle against themselves
DhunamiCE 1 year ago