Idolizing the Cross - The Teachings of Paul

[healthyone100]

GOD hates womens and mens sexuality mostly women  i am a attractive man and have no problem atracting women which i do not do i have not been with a women in 26 years Idon"t hate WOMEN but i HATE there SEXUALITY with a passion if i just see a women i ifeel i haved sINNED even though i haven't LUSTED after her it hurts my SPIRIT these sex bitch women GOD hates there sexy lust O.J. should have cut her head all the way off

[healthyone100]

i follow the ESSENE teachings who YESUHA was a member of the most important thing we can do to please GOD is to take care of his temple (our BODY) 1COR 3:17 GENESIS 1:29 the ESSENE gospel of peace are the true words of christ and true way to salvation

[poneyboy23]

So Mr. yells a lot teaches that Paul was not of God? Interesting.

[KRU78]

Many that lack indepth understanding fail to see how Paul not only taught Torah but did it n such a way that he could shine forth unto the gentiles. Paul never taught againt Torah (Acts. 25:8;28:7) and neither did Yeshua. Those who would like to throw out need for atonement and claim to be as righteous as Messiah would naturally disagree. They follow their own puffed up minds and traditions of men rather than The Word. Discusting perversion, perhaps they do so out of lack of knowledge

[oldpreach]

Wow....this is one mixed up young man. Please pray for him.

[LiveForGodsKingdom]

@Blazer7x70

When you talk to a Mormon or a Jehova Wittness they will tell you what they read from their book is the truth because the founders of their organization but it together and made it that way. The Bible was put together by the Catholic church. The true scriptures are in the Bible and are clearly different than the lies found in it. The only reason a Christian does not understand is because they are blinded to the truth by the reading the tares Yehshua warned us about.

[torahyeshua]

Peter affirms Pauls writings: II Peter 3:15, even as our BELOVED brother Paul also according to the WISDOM given unto him hath written unto you;

As also in ALL HIS EPISTLES, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked,

[adysaxman77]

@Revelation6v8In 1973, some ossuaries were found in a first century cave near Bethany. These ossuaries had etched on them various Greek and Jewish names. Many of these names are also found in the New Testament, and some of the ossuaries were etched with crosses, which probably indicates that the bones in them were of people who had been Chrstians.

The first century Christians didn't regard the cross as a 'pagan idol' or they wouldn't have etched it on the ossuaries would they?

[bigbadboriqua]

Every time someone quotes Peter's words from 2Peter 3:15,16, claiming that Peter called Paul's writings Holy Scripture, they are fulfilling Yahshua's prophecy concerning Peter. For it is they who are helping Paul to bind Peter, and are taking Peter (his testimony) where neither he nor Yahshua wanted him to go... in support of Paul... against the Law!

[bigbadboriqua]

Paul was filled with the spirit but because of his Ego the Spirit left him. You need to discern the book of Acts to understand why the Spirit of the Most High left brother Paul. Thus, Yahoshua prophesy came true after his resurrection. "Feed my sheep. Most assuredly I say to you, when you were younger, you bound yourself and walked where you wished; but when you are old, you will stretch forth your hands, and another will bind you and lead you where you do not wish."

[jesusloveisrael]

Romans 14 4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. 5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

[jesusloveisrael]

At the cross at the cross where i first saw the light it was their that my heart was rolled away. It was their by faith i reseved my sight and their ill be happy all my days. I believe and support my 1611 King James version. I truley have a relation with Christ and spirit filled . You ought to try him you woulding be acting like a freack in a side show

[LiveForGodsKingdom]

Friend,

Your statement shows that the cross is being idolized because you never received anything form the cross. Scripture tells us that you receive sight and the renewing of the heart through repentance and turning to and abiding in Yehshua the Messiah. Please friend, give glory to the Heavenly Father by giving proper testimony to salvation in Yehshua not the cross or some murder device.

[techmanjesus]

@jesusloveisrael Don't argue with him, he gets off on it. He has no revelation whatsoever. He's so delusional be believes his own rants. This is what happens when you become a schizophrenic!

[leadstring66]

First of all....... יהושע was not crucified on a "cross

the greek word used......Stauro

is an upright pale or stake

constantine when he paganized christianity, adopted the mystic Tau which he says he was told to conquer with...

wich is the sign of the Egyptian god Tammuz...

are you weeping for Tammuz?

[tonoslim]

my brother you are sadly mistaken: if you reject the things Paul said you might as well reject the Word of God as a whole. This is contrary teaching. I do agree people should not worship a cross or any other thing but we can't accuse people of being paganistic if they wear a cross. It is a symbol of our faith and the cross represents the crucifixtion and the resurrection of our Lord. The first scripture of you mention tells it all! My brother I am praying for you.

[wahine984]

We're trying to watch several messages and there are a few that will not play. We'll keep trying

[marykat1977]

if you believe Paul was a false apostle - do you reject most of the New Testament???

[leadstring66]

I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance.

Matt 3:11

For this is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins Matthew 26:28

And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sin Luke 3:3

This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

I Corinthians 11:24-25

LOL, you dont see the glaring contridictions????

[MDIS]

Dear brothers , in the scriptures to deny oneself and to pick up the " cross " does not mean or actually represent the physical cross but rather the " heart and spirit of oneself " to follow Yeshua and to Worship God Alone and No One Else.

Saul taught otherwise ; which denotes the heavy reliance on symbolisms and worship of the cross instead of God.

Yeshua on the Cross shouted ;

Lord Lord why did you forsake me?

Yeshua was worshipping God not himself or the Cross.

[TLCTugger]

NoCirc: Romans 2:29, Romans 3:30, Acts 15:10, I Corinthians 7:18, I Corinthians 12: 18, Galatians 5:6, Galatians 5:2, Galatians 6:15, Philippians 3:2, Colossians 2:12, Matthew 9:12

3 versions of the story of Abraham did not have circumcision in them before 600 BCE.

THOU SHALL NOT STEAL was handed down hundreds of years after the Hebrew covenant of the 8th day. Taking healthy normal body parts without consent can only be stealing.

Foreskin feels REALLY good. HIS body, HIS decision.

[motley416]

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 2 Peter 3:15-16

!!! Peter puts Paul's letters on par with "other scriptures"?! case settled for me...

[motley416]

I need to address Paul. Here's a guy that went from violently opposing Christians to starting churches all over the Roman empire. Since he was "false" were his churches false as well? John later wrote to those churches in Revelation, so I suppose John is false as well? And then all those martyrs who came from the churches Paul started... Guess they died for nothing? Better toss out Luke, Paul's companion as well then. No record of him being opposed by the other apostles? Repent Live. Shame on ya

[LiveForGodsKingdom]

Yes the "churches" Paul founded were false that is why the 7 he wrote to are not the 7 that Yehshua told John to write to. John is not false he walked with Yehshua and had the promise of the Holy Spirit (John 14:26). Luke and Paul never walked with Yehshua they were not Apostles according to Yehshua in Mathew 19:28 & 10:2. Paul's message is totally different from Yehshua's.

[motley416]

Thank you for replying. Seems like an awfully wild claim to me to be honest. Many of the points you make are very true... but Paul? Luke? I don't see the contradictions, And why didn't the other apostles oppose them. Also, seems doubtful you arrived at these conclusions independently. If you don't mind me asking who holds these views, I would like to look more into them.

[leadstring66]

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[SHEEPinWOLFskin]

Follow Yehoshua to יהוה of hosts!

[motley416]

Christ said love your enemies. The cross is Christ doing the thing He told us to do. He suffered through the shame, humiliation, and violence, and continued showing His love to us right up to the moment we killed Him. He even pleaded for us saying, "Father forgive them..." To follow Him is to take up that same Cross and love our enemies with His love in us, even if they kill us. The early Christians did this. Not enter politics, not legislate morality, but be witnesses.

[motley416]

Please don't misunderstand me... I saw the word witness used there... I am certainly not a Jahovahs Witness, nor am I catholic or protestant, or anything else. I used to be a mainline protestant, but now I am just a guy with my Bible. I believe we are in the great apostasy period, and that deceit is rampant in the churches, so it's just me and my Bible now. = )

[sk4treasure2]

@motley416 i agree with you these poor souls are so deceived but put most believers to shame in there zeal of trickery from the enemy.... beware of false teaching and false prophets, pray you are doing well with your walk with your bible, ...me too but still reach out in fellowship/as a witness to truth. be encouraged time is short keep up the faith in Christ Jesus and be filled with the His Spirit he left for us :)

[msjonesbitches]

hey LIVE

are you a witness? i was raised one so its coo i like your messages and im passin them on peace

[vasiliosrigos]

Revelelation 14; 12

Here is the patience of the saints; here ARE those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

love peace wisdom faith

a humble servant