The conflict stems from the fact that the doctrine of baptism was still evolving. In Acts 2:38 the Apostles were still baptizing with a "baptism of repentance" just as John the Baptist did. Later, John the Baptist's concept of repentance was completely eliminated and it was simply a baptism in to the name of the Lord. See Acts 19:3-5
in mark 16-16 . the writer reference is not the word order which is believe and baptise. but if we read the whole passage it only says the qualification who baptise or belive or belive baptize that whoever have this qualification, when ever they drink poision noting happened
st mark was not one of 12 apostole. but he was a diciple of st paul. st mathew 28;18-20. now that is say at the begining? there it say baptize and advise. and see mathew is from one of the 12 apostile.
means first time, someone belived and baptised yes but a child born and we r waiting for him to get the knowledge which we think everybody know eveything in a certain age and give them baptism?
what if that child at the age of 10 died? at that time he is not quet a little child.
and what makes us to think children dont know eveything.
at certain age children hide something and someone say did u see it, he lie sometime.
where that came from - adamic sin. jesus circusmcised at child.
now what is the purpose of baptism , that once abraham called by god. and his followeres or generation who become rightious to god, god give them a sign of circumcison. which seperate from others.
through baptism as a member in christ we are equalize the rightiousness people in the old testiment. means instead of circumcison then new member baptised and equalize.
again why we baptism because of adamic sin. we born to world and reborn in christ.
but must be washed with holy sprit. when jesus baptised it happened and the witness reported it.
if bible say adult baptism is necessary it should be noted.
yes bible does not say about infant baptism. but baptism is needed once.
when people from other faith baptised in the beginin yes that was an adult baptism and while in their christian life when they had children they probably took infant baptism.
DR? Mark 16 Messiah said He that believeth AND is baptised shall be saved. Gal 3:27, ROM 6:4 Buried with Him in baptism into death. 1 Peter 3:21 saved by baptism. Its not hard to believe the truth.
Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
THEN HE WAS ALLOWED TO BE BAPTIZED INTO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
What did Phillip say to the people about the Kingdom of God that made them want to be baptized immediately? Phillip preached about Jesus, why He came and what we must do to enter the kingdom of God. Jesus said; "If you are NOT born again of water & spirit you will NOT enter my Kingdom" WOW! This was the message of the desciples.
The message of Jesus & the desciples was to be born again by water & spirit. Peter preaching Acts4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
John 20:31 , that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
@Corinth777 if the disciles where not baptized the right way WHY would peter tell people to do something that was not needed or wronge the day GOD fulfilled Pentecost the very first time the Spirit was poured out he preached the wronge thing !? you would think somewhere in the bible God would of made someone come and say opps thats wronge lets do this other thing instead but no it happed 4 more times and was never changed .acts 2:38-acts 8-16-acts 10-48 acts 19-5 jesus said it in luke 24-47!
he cannot enter the kingdom of God. It is at water baptism we recieve forgiveness or remission of sins, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16,arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Yes it is essential for salvation, the New Birth.
Look, if a person is already saved before they get baptized, than there is absolutely no scriptural reason for a person to get baptized. It is apart of God's divine plan for humanity to get baptized for a specific reason and purpose, or not.
When we look at scripture, Jesus said over in mark 16:16; He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. 1Peter 3:21; The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us. John 3:5; Except and man be born of the water and the Spirit,
1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." When one is baptised for the right reasons, they contact the saving blood of Christ in baptism and receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 22:16 says baptism washes away sins. Rev.1:5 says the blood of Christ washes away sin. Therefore, its in baptism one contacts the blood of Christ spiritually.
"And he came into all the country...preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins"“He who believes and is baptized will be saved““Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins”“We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death,so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father,we too might walk in newness of life.”"...whereunto even baptism doth also now save us..""Repent, and be baptized every one of you...for the remission of sins.."777denny
Sorry, but that is POOR scholarship. I can quote DOZENS of versions ,and they ALL say the same thing, "Repent AND be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ IN ORDER THAT (unto) your sins may be forgiven." God does not waste one drop of Jesus' blood on someone who is not willing by faith to bury their old man with Christ. It's not "works", it's an act of FAITH and appropriation. "He who believes AND is baptized shall be saved (sealed by the Spirit)"
LOL @ "I would not undervalue baptism in the place of the Christian religion" OK, my best advice based upon THAT statement at 0:50 is NOT to spend the next 3 minutes trying to convince people that the meaning of "eis" in Acts 2: 38 is something OTHER than what the 101 translators of the ASV said: "Repent ... be baptized ... unto the remission of sins." One good thing: nobody would recall what Matt 12: 41 even SAYS if not for the shysters trying to use it against Acts 2: 38.
Key, accurate statement (1:03): "The Bible does not speak to us, really, about unbaptized Christians." Bingo! Precisely as he says: Unbaptized Christians do not appear nor or they contemplated in scripture! What never, never appears in scripture as an answer to the question, "What must I do to be saved:" "Just trust in God, accept Christ as your personal saviour -- and pray the sinner's prayer...." Friends, whom I love and appreciate -- why not just obey the gospel call, as did Paul?
This man says Christians "should be baptized" -- and then dismisses its value. The Bible, he says, commands something he, himself, dismisses. Heb. 11:7 - By faith Noah built an ark -- but who saved him? God saved him and his family by water (I Pet. 3:20-21). "The like figure whereunto baptism doth even now save us" - not by washing dirt off our bodies, but because our consciences have answered God -- and through faith in HIS operation we are raised in baptism, with Christ, by him. (Col. 2:11-12)
@408knw That's what they all say: you "should be", "oughta be", "good idea to be", "if-you-don't-you-weren't saved-to-begin-with", and just about everything else to dance around the fact that "preaching Jesus" includes "preaching baptism".
Mark 16:16 says, "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." I would say thats a pretty essential requirement for salvation wouldn't you?
1 Peter:3:21 "and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-" This water symbolizes baptism, not vice versa. The Bible does not refer to baptism as symbolic. Nowhere in the New Testament is there record of anyone just saying a prayer and being saved either.
We are saved by faith, but when does that faith manifest itself before or after we obey God? Baptism is essential for salvation. 1 Peter 3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 22:16, Acts 16:33, Acts 8:38, Col 2:12, Mark 1:4, Eph 4:5, Mark 10:39, Luke 12:50, Luke 3:3, Romans 6:4, Acts 10:37, Acts 13:24, Mark 11:30, Acts 1:22,
Salvation is by believing in Jesus,we should receive the Holy Spirit the same way the Apostles received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2. Peter said that is how Gentiles should receive the Spirit in Acts 15:8 so we don't have to practice Judaism to be saved. And James agreed with Peter later in Acts 15-so all of you who want to know the real interpretation of Acts 2:38 Dr. Cairns is right!
Seems like some people are misunderstanding what he is saying, I did too at first, but technically, he's not wrong. Baptism and salvation are not necessarily "sequential" events. The only requirement to be saved is a repentance, and baptism has nothing to do with a person repenting, it's symbolic. HOWEVER, baptism is ABSOLUTELY a requirement to get into heaven. Read John 3:5
I feel that if you go under water any other way besides Acts 2:38 as a sinner then you just come out as a wet sinner. You must be Baptized in Acts 2:38. Im Apostolic yall in Kentucky.
1 PETER 3:21 -- and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also -- not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ".
If we do not obey ,we are not doing the will of The Father!!!
Jesus said only he who dose the will of The Father will be saved.
Acts 2:38 was in answer to the cry "Men and Brethren what must we do?!!!"
Every case we see believers baptized and to argue against it is to teach people to not to do the will of The Father who said "This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased ,hear Him!!!"
Acts 2:38 is the fulfillment of Matt 28:19 and How shall we escape if we neglect so great a Salvation!!!!
You wrestle the scripture to your destruction. Ever learning never coming to the knowledge of truth. JESUS said, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; Now do what you want, but if you have a clear conscious, you will do as they did and be baptized. You fail to do so and you will be dammed. Acts 2:38 was the result of the direct commandment JESUS gave in Lk 24:47 that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
i guess jesus peter paul were all wrong John 3:3,5 acts 2:38 its funny u take out what you want from the bible. jesus was baptised peter was given the keys but i guess on the day of penticost he was out of order you listen to man ill believe the word. you dont even know what ur missing when u speak with tongues when you feel god shake you. your churches are so dead you better search the scriptures it is a heaven or hell issue.
@jinkyfc LOL That's about as intelligence as saying if Naaman went down into the water with leprosy, he came out with it. The phrase "for or unto the remission of sins" in Acts 2: 38 (eis aphesin harmartion) means "to obtain the forgiveness of sins" (Thayer, p. 94). The ASV translates it "unto". No standard translation renders it "because of". Repent? Why? Unto the remission of sins. Be baptized? Why? unto the remission of sins.
@edwardpf123 'If you go under the water unsaved, you will come up unsaved!'
This statement is an absolute lie from HELL !
Being reborn into the family of God and receiving the family name is critical to salvation as this is how you start a relationship with the Godhead. You can NOT believe your way into this family nor any other family period. It takes a rebirth, a remitting of sins/the curse of DEATH inherited from Adam and being converted unto LIFE by the power of the Holy Ghost.
@wilby1414 -Yes, that rebirth is by faith, not by water. see the comment below on Acts 8:37. If you think water baptism had anything to do with your salvation, you are still unsaved.
Acts:8:37: And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38: And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Emphasis, is on belief, and profession of faith BEFORE anyone has any business being water baptized in identification with the resurrected Jesus Christ.
@kjvonly01 Friend, with all due respect, can you read? Do you understand the grave crime of crippling the meaning of God's word by denying its context? Acts 8:35 says Philip began at Isaiah 53:8 and "preached to him Jesus." Clearly, inescapably, that preaching led to the real emphasis, his question, which you misrepresent: "See, here is water; what hindereth me to be baptized?" Clearly, "preaching Jesus" instructs penitent believers to be baptized into his death and raised in his resurrection!
The conflict stems from the fact that the doctrine of baptism was still evolving. In Acts 2:38 the Apostles were still baptizing with a "baptism of repentance" just as John the Baptist did. Later, John the Baptist's concept of repentance was completely eliminated and it was simply a baptism in to the name of the Lord. See Acts 19:3-5
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in mark 16-16 . the writer reference is not the word order which is believe and baptise. but if we read the whole passage it only says the qualification who baptise or belive or belive baptize that whoever have this qualification, when ever they drink poision noting happened
st mark was not one of 12 apostole. but he was a diciple of st paul. st mathew 28;18-20. now that is say at the begining? there it say baptize and advise. and see mathew is from one of the 12 apostile.
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means first time, someone belived and baptised yes but a child born and we r waiting for him to get the knowledge which we think everybody know eveything in a certain age and give them baptism?
what if that child at the age of 10 died? at that time he is not quet a little child.
and what makes us to think children dont know eveything.
at certain age children hide something and someone say did u see it, he lie sometime.
where that came from - adamic sin. jesus circusmcised at child.
abrbs 1 month ago
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abrbs 1 month ago
now what is the purpose of baptism , that once abraham called by god. and his followeres or generation who become rightious to god, god give them a sign of circumcison. which seperate from others.
through baptism as a member in christ we are equalize the rightiousness people in the old testiment. means instead of circumcison then new member baptised and equalize.
again why we baptism because of adamic sin. we born to world and reborn in christ.
abrbs 1 month ago
but must be washed with holy sprit. when jesus baptised it happened and the witness reported it.
if bible say adult baptism is necessary it should be noted.
yes bible does not say about infant baptism. but baptism is needed once.
when people from other faith baptised in the beginin yes that was an adult baptism and while in their christian life when they had children they probably took infant baptism.
now what is the purpose of baptism.
abrbs 1 month ago
without physcial water baptism 12 apostoles speak in toungues and filled with holy sprit.
when bible say about family baptism, there were included children
when it says in bible besides a family baptised it say couples. that means without childeren
children filled with holysprirt in mothers womb says in the bible. it means physical baptism did not take place.
what is the purpose of baptism that a comantment in the bible nobody reject it.
it only say that has to be done.
abrbs 1 month ago
DR? Mark 16 Messiah said He that believeth AND is baptised shall be saved. Gal 3:27, ROM 6:4 Buried with Him in baptism into death. 1 Peter 3:21 saved by baptism. Its not hard to believe the truth.
OBAMABInlaDENrublind 2 months ago
If Baptism has saving power...why did Christ die on the cross?
newj34 4 months ago
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Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
THEN HE WAS ALLOWED TO BE BAPTIZED INTO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wilby1414 7 months ago
Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
What did Phillip say to the people about the Kingdom of God that made them want to be baptized immediately? Phillip preached about Jesus, why He came and what we must do to enter the kingdom of God. Jesus said; "If you are NOT born again of water & spirit you will NOT enter my Kingdom" WOW! This was the message of the desciples.
wilby1414 7 months ago
The message of Jesus & the desciples was to be born again by water & spirit. Peter preaching Acts4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
John 20:31 , that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Acts 2:41
Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls
wilby1414 7 months ago
False, hes not quoting the whole thing, he has a catholic point of view...figures
madara7000 7 months ago
WHAT IS GODs NAME ? -----------> SEEMs IMPORTANT in the BIBLE.
2222pauline 8 months ago
@Corinth777 if the disciles where not baptized the right way WHY would peter tell people to do something that was not needed or wronge the day GOD fulfilled Pentecost the very first time the Spirit was poured out he preached the wronge thing !? you would think somewhere in the bible God would of made someone come and say opps thats wronge lets do this other thing instead but no it happed 4 more times and was never changed .acts 2:38-acts 8-16-acts 10-48 acts 19-5 jesus said it in luke 24-47!
MrDwaynedog911 8 months ago
@Corinth777 look up the word "baptize" friend, you can't baptize someone unless you have water. LOL.
MrApostolicdoctrine1 9 months ago
he cannot enter the kingdom of God. It is at water baptism we recieve forgiveness or remission of sins, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16,arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. Yes it is essential for salvation, the New Birth.
MrApostolicdoctrine1 9 months ago
Look, if a person is already saved before they get baptized, than there is absolutely no scriptural reason for a person to get baptized. It is apart of God's divine plan for humanity to get baptized for a specific reason and purpose, or not.
When we look at scripture, Jesus said over in mark 16:16; He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. 1Peter 3:21; The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us. John 3:5; Except and man be born of the water and the Spirit,
MrApostolicdoctrine1 9 months ago
1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." When one is baptised for the right reasons, they contact the saving blood of Christ in baptism and receive the Holy Spirit. Acts 22:16 says baptism washes away sins. Rev.1:5 says the blood of Christ washes away sin. Therefore, its in baptism one contacts the blood of Christ spiritually.
horseman528 1 year ago
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"And he came into all the country...preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins"“He who believes and is baptized will be saved““Repent and be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins”“We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death,so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father,we too might walk in newness of life.”"...whereunto even baptism doth also now save us..""Repent, and be baptized every one of you...for the remission of sins.."777denny
777denny1 1 year ago
Sorry, but that is POOR scholarship. I can quote DOZENS of versions ,and they ALL say the same thing, "Repent AND be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ IN ORDER THAT (unto) your sins may be forgiven." God does not waste one drop of Jesus' blood on someone who is not willing by faith to bury their old man with Christ. It's not "works", it's an act of FAITH and appropriation. "He who believes AND is baptized shall be saved (sealed by the Spirit)"
eflint1 1 year ago
LOL @ "I would not undervalue baptism in the place of the Christian religion" OK, my best advice based upon THAT statement at 0:50 is NOT to spend the next 3 minutes trying to convince people that the meaning of "eis" in Acts 2: 38 is something OTHER than what the 101 translators of the ASV said: "Repent ... be baptized ... unto the remission of sins." One good thing: nobody would recall what Matt 12: 41 even SAYS if not for the shysters trying to use it against Acts 2: 38.
lllllannalllll 1 year ago
Key, accurate statement (1:03): "The Bible does not speak to us, really, about unbaptized Christians." Bingo! Precisely as he says: Unbaptized Christians do not appear nor or they contemplated in scripture! What never, never appears in scripture as an answer to the question, "What must I do to be saved:" "Just trust in God, accept Christ as your personal saviour -- and pray the sinner's prayer...." Friends, whom I love and appreciate -- why not just obey the gospel call, as did Paul?
408knw 1 year ago
This man says Christians "should be baptized" -- and then dismisses its value. The Bible, he says, commands something he, himself, dismisses. Heb. 11:7 - By faith Noah built an ark -- but who saved him? God saved him and his family by water (I Pet. 3:20-21). "The like figure whereunto baptism doth even now save us" - not by washing dirt off our bodies, but because our consciences have answered God -- and through faith in HIS operation we are raised in baptism, with Christ, by him. (Col. 2:11-12)
408knw 1 year ago
@408knw That's what they all say: you "should be", "oughta be", "good idea to be", "if-you-don't-you-weren't saved-to-begin-with", and just about everything else to dance around the fact that "preaching Jesus" includes "preaching baptism".
lllllannalllll 1 year ago
Mark 16:16 says, "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." I would say thats a pretty essential requirement for salvation wouldn't you?
1 Peter:3:21 "and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-" This water symbolizes baptism, not vice versa. The Bible does not refer to baptism as symbolic. Nowhere in the New Testament is there record of anyone just saying a prayer and being saved either.
miket1m 1 year ago
We are saved by faith, but when does that faith manifest itself before or after we obey God? Baptism is essential for salvation. 1 Peter 3:21, Mark 16:16, Acts 22:16, Acts 16:33, Acts 8:38, Col 2:12, Mark 1:4, Eph 4:5, Mark 10:39, Luke 12:50, Luke 3:3, Romans 6:4, Acts 10:37, Acts 13:24, Mark 11:30, Acts 1:22,
One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism ~ Ephesians 4:5
miket1m 1 year ago
Salvation is by believing in Jesus,we should receive the Holy Spirit the same way the Apostles received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2. Peter said that is how Gentiles should receive the Spirit in Acts 15:8 so we don't have to practice Judaism to be saved. And James agreed with Peter later in Acts 15-so all of you who want to know the real interpretation of Acts 2:38 Dr. Cairns is right!
Judgement220 1 year ago
Read John 3 and Romans 6 and keep in mind that no man with sin in his heart will see the Kingdom of Heaven.
RedXtract 1 year ago
Seems like some people are misunderstanding what he is saying, I did too at first, but technically, he's not wrong. Baptism and salvation are not necessarily "sequential" events. The only requirement to be saved is a repentance, and baptism has nothing to do with a person repenting, it's symbolic. HOWEVER, baptism is ABSOLUTELY a requirement to get into heaven. Read John 3:5
HugosGarden 1 year ago
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miket1m 1 year ago
I feel that if you go under water any other way besides Acts 2:38 as a sinner then you just come out as a wet sinner. You must be Baptized in Acts 2:38. Im Apostolic yall in Kentucky.
RayRoark2009 1 year ago
and also, it clear states that,
He who believeth AND IS baptized shall be saved.
it isnt: He who believeth AND IS saved shall be baptized.
JesusIsThe0nlyWay 1 year ago
give this a thought..
If im on the titanic, and the captains says:
Those who believe that the ship is sinking and will get on the boat will be saved but those who will not believe the ship is sinking will die!
He who believeth and IS baptized shall be saved, those who will not believe will be condemned.
believing = ship is sinking
baptism = getting on boat
why do i die if i dont believe that the boat is sinking? because i cant ride the boat because the ship isnt sinking for me!
JesusIsThe0nlyWay 1 year ago
Let the Bible speak...
(ROMANS 10:9) -- if you confess w/ your mouth "Jesus is Lord..."
MATTHEW 7:21 -- not everyone who calls me Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven...
JAMES 2:17 -- show your faith by what you do, "You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that.
JAMES 24 -- "YOU SEE THAT A PERSON IS JUSTIFIED BY WHAT HE DOES AND NOT BY FAITH ALONE."
EriCLopEzSavEllanO 2 years ago
1 PETER 3:21 -- and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also -- not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ".
EriCLopEzSavEllanO 2 years ago
If we do not obey ,we are not doing the will of The Father!!!
Jesus said only he who dose the will of The Father will be saved.
Acts 2:38 was in answer to the cry "Men and Brethren what must we do?!!!"
Every case we see believers baptized and to argue against it is to teach people to not to do the will of The Father who said "This is my Beloved Son in whom I am well pleased ,hear Him!!!"
Acts 2:38 is the fulfillment of Matt 28:19 and How shall we escape if we neglect so great a Salvation!!!!
revelashaun68 2 years ago
You wrestle the scripture to your destruction. Ever learning never coming to the knowledge of truth. JESUS said, He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; Now do what you want, but if you have a clear conscious, you will do as they did and be baptized. You fail to do so and you will be dammed. Acts 2:38 was the result of the direct commandment JESUS gave in Lk 24:47 that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
kingpin1960 2 years ago
Faith without works is dead
Madameo8 2 years ago
i guess jesus peter paul were all wrong John 3:3,5 acts 2:38 its funny u take out what you want from the bible. jesus was baptised peter was given the keys but i guess on the day of penticost he was out of order you listen to man ill believe the word. you dont even know what ur missing when u speak with tongues when you feel god shake you. your churches are so dead you better search the scriptures it is a heaven or hell issue.
xshyromeox 2 years ago
Eph 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
KJV
JimQualls 2 years ago
Amen brother! If you go under the water unsaved, you will come up unsaved!
edwardpf123 2 years ago 4
Amen
thank you for you comment
jinkyfc 2 years ago
@jinkyfc LOL That's about as intelligence as saying if Naaman went down into the water with leprosy, he came out with it. The phrase "for or unto the remission of sins" in Acts 2: 38 (eis aphesin harmartion) means "to obtain the forgiveness of sins" (Thayer, p. 94). The ASV translates it "unto". No standard translation renders it "because of". Repent? Why? Unto the remission of sins. Be baptized? Why? unto the remission of sins.
lllllannalllll 1 year ago
@edwardpf123
ARE YOU STILL ALIVE ? THEN YOUR NOT SAVED FROM THIS LIFE YET ARE YOU?
1.SEARCH the SCRIPTURES for IN THEM-YOU THINK YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
2.HAVE YOU RECIEVED THE HOLY GHOST SENSE YOU BELIEVED.
3.I have FINISHED MY COURSE there is therefore a CROWN lay-up for me.
4.EVEN BAPTISM doth also now SAVE US
5. there is a WAY that seemth RIGHT to a man BUT the END is DEATH.
GOD shows SALVATION----- WHY NOT ASK HIM----- HE IS ALIVE YOU KNOW
2222pauline 8 months ago
@edwardpf123 'If you go under the water unsaved, you will come up unsaved!'
This statement is an absolute lie from HELL !
Being reborn into the family of God and receiving the family name is critical to salvation as this is how you start a relationship with the Godhead. You can NOT believe your way into this family nor any other family period. It takes a rebirth, a remitting of sins/the curse of DEATH inherited from Adam and being converted unto LIFE by the power of the Holy Ghost.
wilby1414 7 months ago
@wilby1414 -Yes, that rebirth is by faith, not by water. see the comment below on Acts 8:37. If you think water baptism had anything to do with your salvation, you are still unsaved.
edwardpf123 7 months ago
Acts:8:37: And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
38: And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Emphasis, is on belief, and profession of faith BEFORE anyone has any business being water baptized in identification with the resurrected Jesus Christ.
kjvonly01 2 years ago
you made a great series on this subject bro, thank you for your hard work
jinkyfc 2 years ago
@kjvonly01 Friend, with all due respect, can you read? Do you understand the grave crime of crippling the meaning of God's word by denying its context? Acts 8:35 says Philip began at Isaiah 53:8 and "preached to him Jesus." Clearly, inescapably, that preaching led to the real emphasis, his question, which you misrepresent: "See, here is water; what hindereth me to be baptized?" Clearly, "preaching Jesus" instructs penitent believers to be baptized into his death and raised in his resurrection!
408knw 1 year ago