2nd Week, Gay Protest at the LDS "Mormon" Temple in LA

[RCSVirginia]

If you have not seen them yet, two YouTube videos to definitely not miss are:

"'Home Invasion': No on Prop 8 ad directed toward Mormon Church" by jonahtrainer

-and-

"Mrs. Betty Bowers: Less is Mormon!" by MrsBettyBowers

[lindalds]

Those against prop 8 raised somewhere between $3-6mil. MORE than those for prop 8. So, they can't say they didn't have enough money. They had the money, they just didn't know what to do with it.

[foxrat123]

Behind every gay group ther is a Jew communist.

[cryan71]

"1st I want to thank all the poeple that where at the temple to protest. For that reason thousands of poeple will investigate the church and hundreds will be baptised."

Pew research poll shows a negative growth rate for the Mormons. This is probably why the official church website is only posting 2008 statistics in 2010. They lost members.

" so why is it ok for them to attack the other side"

Mormons start a fight, and then don't expect people to attack back? Go and hide.

[TheAna262]

1st I want to thank all the poeple that where at the temple to protest. For that reason thousands of poeple will investigate the church and hundreds will be baptised. 2nd nobody question or jepardize the civil rights of prop 8 opponents to vote or speak their views so why is it ok for them to attack the other side.

[Michael123BooDog]

Bigots for God are in for a big surprise when you all go to slobber with greed on the gold and pearl gates you think are so important to what you pretend is God !

[Emsusus]

my dad and uncle are gay you uninformed retards... you guys realize how many more gays there are than mormons and how many of them are religious and perfectly kind people?

[SonOfAdam777]

America's destruction has been delayed because of the Mormons. Thank God for the Mormons (True Believers in Christ)

[SonOfAdam777]

Thats when democracy becomes chaos, when the mob can vote in whatever lawlessness they choose.

[SonOfAdam777]

Don't these gay people think that Mormons should have the freedom to choose and donate their money as they see fit? Its called freedom and democracy. When there is a majority of gays and supporters they can push through bills to end traditional marriage and families. What a wonderful world that will be!

[eVVVVV]

A warning from a Founder of this nation;

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes."

--Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, 1813. ME 14:21

After all these years, Jefferson's reminder of organized religion's attacks on civil rights and free civil government still fit well.

[eVVVVV]

Cant see the forest for the trees Miss 'kitty'? Let me help you.

Religious fascism places itself above all religions and all people.

Religious fascism does not respect cultural plurality.

Religious fascism does not respect the civil rights of all fellow citizens and forces its will on others if it can. It is therefore an un-American institution.

Religious fascism places its own beliefs above researched facts to the contrary.

Religious fascism promotes lies and hysteria to achieve its goals.

[oOKitty86Oo]

I don't know if I agree with your get the government out of it opinion, we need our government to help us organize, without them, anarchy.

However, I do like that you pointed out the the gay culture is more often than not, an Anti-Christian one. They themselves spread alot of hate toward the church, and for what?

Picking on people who just expressed their opinions in the voting booth?

[Adzee81]

ummmm..... last time I checked. Marriage is a legally Binding Contract. One between The two parties. Pretty sure that means the Government is involved some way or another

[eVVVVV]

Jefferson declares the independence of civil rights from religion;

"Our civil rights have no dependence upon our religious opinions more than our opinions in physics or geometry." --Thomas Jefferson: Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. ME 2:301, Papers 2:545

Yet the irrational excuses to restrict "marriage" to one man and one woman delegate a 'special right' to that group. Hypocrisy in the name of 'god'.

How typical of the blind arrogance of religious fascism, even wearing a mask of love.

[oOKitty86Oo]

Okay, religion aside, what about people's rights? To vote that is.

Majority voted Yes on 8. Laws aren't changed just the compromise everyone so that a small group can feel good about themselves, thats not the way democracy works, nor should it.

Who cares why people voted the way they did, that is honestly, NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. They excercised their right, just like everyone else.

[eVVVVV]

Miss 'Kitty' proclaims; "Who cares why people voted the way they did, that is honestly, NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. They excercised(sp) their right, just like everyone else."

So let me get this str8... MY rights are your business... yet YOUR rights are none of my business.

Religious fascism seems not only arrogant but blind as well.

Do inform yourself that we live in a Constitutional Republic where the rights of the individual should be respected. Your choices should not be forced on another.

[oOKitty86Oo]

"So let me get this str8... MY rights are your business... yet YOUR rights are none of my business"

-I'm sorry, what? This comment doesn't even make any sense.

Oh and is it possible to make a good solid logic based argument without putting down other's beliefs, randomly throwing out the word "facism" even though it doesn't make much sense in this context,

or without blindly throwing out the whole "just because its my right" assertion?

People have the right to vote as they choose.

[eVVVVV]

Losertarian "Its rediculous to change marriage for everyone just so a few can have a "feel good" moment."

Your perspective is all wrong. Now wonder you are confused about the issue. Marriage is not all about sex.

Why is it your side always obsesses about other peoples sex life? When people like you begin to see us as regular folks who are a bit different in this or that then you'll not feel so threatened.

On the topic of sex, there's nothing that queer folks do that str8ts don't.

[eVVVVV]

Yes on 8 folks need to realize that marriage is a civil institution, not necessarily a religious one.

It may be difficult, but you need to investigate the differences between your beliefs and the actual facts. But you have to do it with discipline and humility. I say that because there seems to be a lot of blind arrogance in the perspectives of the pro-prop 8 side about rights.

Hints; You live not in a theocracy but a Constitutional Republic! Freedom of religion also means freedom from it!

[carlindelco]

You know this was a vote not a coup by the Morman Church, are they not allowed to have an opinion, man homos really don't Tolerate anyone opposing their sick view on the world do they, all these years of being brainwashed to have an "open mind" and the ones selling it are hard core facist...dictators..

[bernardwilliams]

Please don't call gay people homos. It's insulting.

[carlindelco]

please don't refer to homos being married it's insulting to my marriage. Homo is a truncation of Homo-sexual.. I understand that homos call us "breaders" which is pejorative.. now who is insulting who.

[bernardwilliams]

I have never referred to such a thing. Many homosexuals do not call straight people 'breeders', you can't just lump all homosexuals together in this respect.

[megethealthy]

It wasn't just mormons who got to vote on this, everyone got to vote it was fair and the majority rules.......case closed.

[carlindelco]

Right on! This is a democracy, and the legal vote won!! Thank God!.. Homosexuals seem to act like spoiled children when they are told "no" they throw a temper tantrum..disgraceful

[megethealthy]

power to the people!!!!!

[texanrob]

@megethealthy Black people didn't have the majority vote on their rights, the courts passed their rights, So if the people spoke they wouldn't have rights either. But wait you don't like blacks either. Lets take away your rights and then here you say case closed.

[omiolo1]

actually Mormons were in California first =)

[omiolo1]

The Mormon temple in Westwood was closed Thursday afternoon after an envelope filled with an unidentified white, powdery substance was delivered to temple employees, Los Angeles police said.

the self proclaimed people of tolerance strike again.

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

I condemn this act of terror, no matter which side was responsible, or whatever individual wahcko.

[omiolo1]

"I condemn this act of terror, no matter which side was responsible, or whatever individual wahcko. "

thank you, it will NOT stop until everyone on the NO side says that!

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

Thank you Omiolo, please share my video WE DON'T BRING YOU POWDERS with everyone, I am trying to avert a potential tragedy by getting the word out that TERRORISM is bigger than CIVIL RIGHTS and gays must have signs saying 'NO POWDER, TALK LOUDER" "NO TERROR TACTICS FOR LGBT" and "ITS UNAMERICAN TO POWDER"

Love

Ms. LaReina

[omiolo1]

"Thank you Omiolo, please share my video WE DON'T BRING YOU POWDERS with everyone"

absolutely not!

You are blaming this on the Mormons. Yet, it is the GLBT people that have been threatening to do this for a while. They intimidate us, vandalize our sacred places of worship, cost the state millions in police, hack our websites with pornography and get people to lose their jobs. And then blame it on us.

SHAME ON YOU!!

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

I am the ONLY PERSON CALLING FOR COOLER HEADS here at this moment, and I'm not sure how many more of me there will be, so show me a little respect. My video IS ATTACHED to a Mormon lady who will explain it to you.

[omiolo1]

Mormons are getting threats ALL the time. After the churches were vandalized, we get communications saying this is nothing compared to what we have in store for you. It is WAR!

We take these threats pretty serious.

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

Anyone who makes threats is investigated, and it is wrong to make them. Whoever is making themyou should turn them in, instead of generalizing about gay people.

[omiolo1]

"Anyone who makes threats is investigated, and it is wrong to make them."

why don't you guys learn to police yourselfs?

why do we have to spend millions of dollars and police effort every time someone gets angry?

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

POLICE ourselves???  We don't even TALK to each other!! Have you ever BEEN to a gay bar?

[LaReinaDelBarrio]

They also see you attacking when I am trying to wave an olive branch around, and that is SO not me... I feel terrorism is wrong no matter by whom but assuming it is the gays behind this is as wrong as attacking Muslims who had nothing to do with 9-11.

[omiolo1]

"I feel terrorism is wrong no matter by whom but assuming it is the gays behind this"

It is the No on Prop 8 people whether they are gay or not is irrelevent.

You can't beat on Grandmothers and hve the rest of society turn a blind eye. You can get away with vandalizing churches, mob intimidations, constant threats, forcing people out of jobs and burnings. But for some reason society draws the line at beating on Grandmothers, and terroristic letters.

[omiolo1]

Help me understand this. The state of California is nearly bankrupt, but the No on Prop 8 people are siphoning millions of dollars because they have to be policed because of their RAGE.

SHAME ON THEM!!

[enyalid]

Homosexuality is just sick and wrong!