Okay... I think the 1:1 could be reproduced by re-installing the "redundant bars" and placing the router bearing parallel to the center point (router) at the apex of the outermost parallelogram shape. (I hope this makes sense.) Maybe... I could be smoking crack again. You never know.
i'll be honest, this is genius. i would gladly pay twice, even three times more for the plans for this device, rather than your more than fair price of 18 dollars. i will be subscribing
You could do a joint in the shape of a heart etc. I think i saw a video a while back, that made an oversize joint,and then made an inlay for the gap in the joint,that was in a different colour.
@SuperCheezyGuy But then he would have the issue of running the business (which he may or may not be good at), insuring the product in case of a products liability claim, and many other responsibilities that come from starting a company rather than just selling the designs. So I guess I'm saying I agree with you. He could do what you're saying, but my response is why do that when he seems to be very good at what he's doing and is making money.
@SuperCheezyGuy Do you have any idea what it costs to patent an invention as complex as this? He'd have to have financial investors before he even had a patent secured. As of now, he has about 6 months left. You have to file for a patent within 12 months of publishing an invention. Mr. Wandel is brilliant and I get the feeling that he's not doing this to become a millionaire (or more).
Thank you!! Make an equal or similar device to yours (pantorouter) it does a couple of weeks behind, I had to use metal elements and wood to be able to construct it, though to perfect still you dire that that works and very well ... thank you again for the idea ... probably one of these days raises it to youtube ... in order that you see it...
Sir, I bow humbly to your incredible mind and skills as a woodworker. Now I will remove my jaw from the floor and continue watching your other videos. Thanks for showing this amazing machine.
Do you think it is possible to face mount the router on the pantorouter like it is done on router tables? It seems to me that it would be easier to mount using the holding points the factory made than to wrap about the body which is never perfectly round.
@Matthiaswandel I realized my mistake. I was thinking that the motor could be face mounted but it doesn't have the fasteners the fasteners are in the body. Mounting the motor like you did is the only way to do it without adding something to the motor.
Hi, The only thing I see wrong with this device is the dust collection. Have a look at my video's and you might figure out a way to make this thing dust free. Awesome!
I have a question. You have amazing engineering skills in mechanics and electronics. Wouldn't building a CNC 3-dimension milling machine be more versatile?
Yes, but it would be bigger, slower (unless it had servo motors), need a computer and a program. Plus that's been done before, so no need for me to do it.
Thank you! a lot thank you! you are the first person that I had subscribed, and you are amazing! Many things that you talked in the video, I haven't known them until now @@
Let me preface this by saying I am an enormous fan of Matthias' videos and I think this machine is extraordinary. However, everyone is commenting that it should be patented so he can make a lot of money. First of all, I'm sure Matthias' goal is to keep making wonderful devices and fantastic wood creations - not money. Secondly, this is not the first machine of it's kind. Go through the related videos to find many (inferior) versions of pantograph router mechanisms.
just out of curiosity, your templates have to account for the diameter of your roller bearing. do you design these with a specific bit diameter in mind and just stick to using that bit on the machine? perhaps a bit that is exactly half the diameter of the bearing?
What kind of wood do you use for your machines? Don't you find that changes in temperature and humidity effect the fit of your components and therefore the accuracy or repeatability of your machine? I play guitar and see the tuning effected daily just on minor fluctuations in temperature and humidity. I guess certain finishes can lessen the effect. I would love to see a video from you on wood types, finishes and dimensional stability.
@ploetzlich30 They already make this tool. It involves a chainsaw and a mechanism that grips the log with teeth. Look up Northern Tool in the Logging section.
If he starts commercialising these devices like everyone is suggesting, there will not be much time left to come up with new ones, which is obviously what he enjoys doing. Inventing things is not necessarily something you do to make a profit from it.
Matthias, as I said on the other video, this is a great design.
I do have one thought, would it be more convenient & precise if the table slide stops were mounted on machine screws? The open slot design seems to be a bit hit-or-miss. I haven't seen the plans for your machine so my comment may not apply; you may have another feature that simplifies the adjustment process that I haven't seen.
That is pure genius, how can one man design and build so many amazing machines. Everyone who's seen any of Matthias' videos must be awe of his genius.
Just look at the Likes/dislikes count. Everybody loves his work.
There's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said, so I guess I will have to repeat previous comments. Matthias, you are a genius! Am I correct in saying that you are an engineer? Because if you're not, you are in the wrong field of work, my friend! I hope that I can one day have the workshop you have full of handmade engineered tools and machines like you do. Mega props to you, Sir! Your videos are always worth the wait!
Matthias, I can't help but think it could be a pain to align two pieces that will end up mating - I.e. the piece with the mortise and the piece with the tenon... I notice the table holding the workpiece has no fence or alignment faces to push the workpiece up against, and I also notice your templates float up or down on the frame.
So how do you ensure the tenons will be placed exactly where they need to be so that the outside faces will align?
Did you get a patent for this invention yet?, I know that this type of a routing technique / mechanism do exist, in small scale at least, I have used one in high school to make a plastic custom lettered key-chain. But I never seen one this big and in this kind of wood routing application. I think you still have scope for a patent unless some major wood working company already incorporates this technique in there product manufacturing. So research on that. before investing too much money,
Brilliant, elegant, and useful. You've outdone yourself and just about everyone else in the process! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!
Quick question... how close to exactly 2:1 is the ratio? With even the best human craftsmanship, I'd think you'd be bound to end up with something like a 1.95:1 ratio. Can you post measurements of the template and product for something simple, like a tenon?
The ratio is probably somewhere in the range of 1.995 to 2.005. The ratio is just one of many things that can be inaccurate - it's more likely that there are subtle distortions that aren't a simple ratio. It's easier to make sure the machine and it's parts are accurate enough than it is to try to calibrate the inaccuracies.
Very impressive, I know from experience how hard it is to get this kind of accuracy with "wooden machines". You do on a consistent basis, and my hat is off to you sir.
@OldSchool People like you are what has made this country great.The computer now creates the opportunity for all of us to learn from one another. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
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I would love to see a video on how to use this for dovetails as i am using dovetails on a wooden chess board at school and am finding them quite hard and time consuming and would love to see an alternate way of doing them. Thanks
You probably thought of this already , but maby make one with pins to set varioius scale sizes or variable adjustable one. I've only heard of those pantagraphs before, so I havent experimented to see if it's possible, I'm guessing it is.
Thanks Matthias ! i bought your plans and create the machine now :)
HiManRU 2 days ago
Bella Macchina BRAVO!!
settiklavio 4 days ago
That's one of the nicest wooden machines I've seen. You must be an engineer?
ditesco 4 days ago
Okay... I think the 1:1 could be reproduced by re-installing the "redundant bars" and placing the router bearing parallel to the center point (router) at the apex of the outermost parallelogram shape. (I hope this makes sense.) Maybe... I could be smoking crack again. You never know.
armanflint 6 days ago
Mathias, you are a true craftsman in the style of the old masters. Something the world really needs in today's age of "near enough is good enough".
I'm no woodworker but I love watching your the videos on your beautifully made innovations.
ozzirt 1 week ago
You are one incredibly intelligent dude! God bless you man.
Absolute27 1 week ago
beautiful
vincent7520 1 week ago
i'll be honest, this is genius. i would gladly pay twice, even three times more for the plans for this device, rather than your more than fair price of 18 dollars. i will be subscribing
electronaut21 1 week ago
you drew a mushroom
viktorbublic 3 weeks ago
why don't you build machines like this of aluminum or steel for sale , you shal try,see you and thanks.
varelaarcadio4 1 month ago
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Nittykitkat 1 month ago
Like the drawing
TechInSight11 2 months ago
Bravo ottimo!!!
cibuzza 2 months ago
Very clever. Great invention. very well explaned. Top marks. Mike.
ufokitchens 2 months ago
sos un genio !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vanderkoffken 3 months ago
absolutely great ! Well done ! al the best
urutuc 3 months ago
You could do a joint in the shape of a heart etc. I think i saw a video a while back, that made an oversize joint,and then made an inlay for the gap in the joint,that was in a different colour.
express375 4 months ago
I suspect you don't own a TV!........ i'm going to sell mine and then i'm going to spend more time in my workshop!.
Mr2at 4 months ago
Dude you will be so amazed by a CNC machine :)
cornboy3 6 months ago
what is the name of the bits what use
santoniosable 6 months ago
You will have to make a wedge and mount your workpiece on that.
Matthiaswandel 6 months ago
Is it possible to make angled mortisons with the pantorouter ???
I want to build a pantograph because i can do more different things with it .
i need to make angled mortison, to repair dinnerchairs
FragNet0 6 months ago
First the marble crossbow, and now this? You sir are truly inspiring. Thank you very much.
muddann 6 months ago
fricking amazing.
zkte009 7 months ago
How many routers do you have?!
homosapienssapiens19 7 months ago
GENIO ! ! !
Elio594 7 months ago
You should sell this design to companies for lots of money.
SuperCheezyGuy 8 months ago
@SuperCheezyGuy Or he could just sell the design / plans to people for a lot of money and cut out the companies.
jallenmorris1 7 months ago
@jallenmorris1 Or he could design machines that create pantorouters and create a buisness.
SuperCheezyGuy 7 months ago
@SuperCheezyGuy But then he would have the issue of running the business (which he may or may not be good at), insuring the product in case of a products liability claim, and many other responsibilities that come from starting a company rather than just selling the designs. So I guess I'm saying I agree with you. He could do what you're saying, but my response is why do that when he seems to be very good at what he's doing and is making money.
jallenmorris1 7 months ago
@SuperCheezyGuy Do you have any idea what it costs to patent an invention as complex as this? He'd have to have financial investors before he even had a patent secured. As of now, he has about 6 months left. You have to file for a patent within 12 months of publishing an invention. Mr. Wandel is brilliant and I get the feeling that he's not doing this to become a millionaire (or more).
jallenmorris1 7 months ago
dude
if i build some of your things
i could mass produce things easy!
HoneyIShrunkTheKids2 8 months ago
Just quick question, could not find it on the webpage but what size router do you use. Horsepower etc..
Gilleseg 8 months ago
Got to the page about the plans and click on specificatoins
Matthiaswandel 8 months ago
Davinci would be proud!
FHomeBrew 10 months ago
Thank you!! Make an equal or similar device to yours (pantorouter) it does a couple of weeks behind, I had to use metal elements and wood to be able to construct it, though to perfect still you dire that that works and very well ... thank you again for the idea ... probably one of these days raises it to youtube ... in order that you see it...
osvaldonc 10 months ago
This is truly amazing!
thegolfer8810 11 months ago
That machine is beautiful! I can see many applications for that one.
SvenOkonomi 1 year ago
Sir, I bow humbly to your incredible mind and skills as a woodworker. Now I will remove my jaw from the floor and continue watching your other videos. Thanks for showing this amazing machine.
KregJig 1 year ago
i was wondering, if anyone bought your plans and build his own pantoframe?
ploetzlich30 1 year ago
Excellant adaptation of the concept and very practical. Well done.
MrToshTogo 1 year ago
How long does it take you to go from idea to working product?
kingmike40 1 year ago
See where on the end of the video it says "for more info"?
That's a good way of getting more info.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
@herpderpdiddlydoo How do you know he is not?
kingmike40 1 year ago
Do you think it is possible to face mount the router on the pantorouter like it is done on router tables? It seems to me that it would be easier to mount using the holding points the factory made than to wrap about the body which is never perfectly round.
kingmike40 1 year ago
If you can think of a way to do it, go ahead. I couldn't.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
@Matthiaswandel The design you have is most likely the best one but I have another idea. Make the table pivot for angle cuts.
kingmike40 1 year ago
@Matthiaswandel I realized my mistake. I was thinking that the motor could be face mounted but it doesn't have the fasteners the fasteners are in the body. Mounting the motor like you did is the only way to do it without adding something to the motor.
kingmike40 1 year ago
Mathias, I wish I could private message you. Would you be interested in suggestions in how to make that thing dust free?
woodentoolcompany 1 year ago
Hi, The only thing I see wrong with this device is the dust collection. Have a look at my video's and you might figure out a way to make this thing dust free. Awesome!
woodentoolcompany 1 year ago
ok
now who disliked this???
ihatestupidvideos 1 year ago
so far the coolest thing you made
Dechristian3 1 year ago
Wow. This is amazing. You are a genius, my friend!
stevinmarin 1 year ago
Do you apply for patents before releasing these video's? I hope so haha youre a genius
joelbyrne 1 year ago
Thank you+++++
iztollah 1 year ago
Matthias: Since this is a 2-to-1 ratio, does the 'stylus' also have to be twice the diameter of the router bit you use?
TomKaren1994 1 year ago
More on that in the articles. Just click the link in the description.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
I have a question. You have amazing engineering skills in mechanics and electronics. Wouldn't building a CNC 3-dimension milling machine be more versatile?
dbraven 1 year ago
Yes, but it would be bigger, slower (unless it had servo motors), need a computer and a program. Plus that's been done before, so no need for me to do it.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
@dbraven For the cost of a cnc and the time it would take to program or do cad a person could have the parts done using this machine.
kingmike40 1 year ago
This is the only 7000+ video i have ever seen without a vote on the dislike side. And for good reason. This is an amazing bit of cleverness.
tr0nb0y 1 year ago
Thank you! a lot thank you! you are the first person that I had subscribed, and you are amazing! Many things that you talked in the video, I haven't known them until now @@
trungveso 1 year ago
This is a dumb question, but... What kind of wood is that that its made out of? Is it available at like lowe's or home depot?
TheScientist0000000 1 year ago
Let me preface this by saying I am an enormous fan of Matthias' videos and I think this machine is extraordinary. However, everyone is commenting that it should be patented so he can make a lot of money. First of all, I'm sure Matthias' goal is to keep making wonderful devices and fantastic wood creations - not money. Secondly, this is not the first machine of it's kind. Go through the related videos to find many (inferior) versions of pantograph router mechanisms.
Sully800 1 year ago
you should get this patented as quick as possible.
gus23a 1 year ago
he was making the base for this when he made the video on glides!
homosapienssapiens19 1 year ago
just out of curiosity, your templates have to account for the diameter of your roller bearing. do you design these with a specific bit diameter in mind and just stick to using that bit on the machine? perhaps a bit that is exactly half the diameter of the bearing?
nak5ive 1 year ago
Yes. See the webpage linked from the video.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
When can we expect more videos on this machine? Fantastic work, you are so ingenious. :)
Gplumbz 1 year ago
Lovely work, it's very effective and yet the design isn't overly complicated or too elaborate.
Nitwit77 1 year ago
very cool. i love how you took some flaws into consideration and fixed them however you needed to. great job.
95Barqs1 1 year ago
What kind of wood do you use for your machines? Don't you find that changes in temperature and humidity effect the fit of your components and therefore the accuracy or repeatability of your machine? I play guitar and see the tuning effected daily just on minor fluctuations in temperature and humidity. I guess certain finishes can lessen the effect. I would love to see a video from you on wood types, finishes and dimensional stability.
threeque 1 year ago
The finish doesn't help much. It's all about keeping that in mind as you build the machines, and knowing what you can get away with.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
I love you!!!!
dicer250 1 year ago
Matthias, well done! Could you use this machine to control the depth of the cut? Like for example making kids wooden train track etc...
tagi3d 1 year ago
Great machine! But what's next - 3D :-) ?
andreisuvorov 1 year ago
if i could request a tool, i would request tool to cut logs into boards as precise as possible by hand.
ploetzlich30 1 year ago
@ploetzlich30 They already make this tool. It involves a chainsaw and a mechanism that grips the log with teeth. Look up Northern Tool in the Logging section.
Superhambone 1 year ago
@Superhambone, i was thinking about a handpowered version. a chainsaw is way to loud to rip a log in the basement, or on the balcony!
ploetzlich30 1 year ago
Now, if you could add a template for the depth, you could work three-D cuts.
I think such a thing exists as a sculpture duplicator.
Mauser712 1 year ago
If he starts commercialising these devices like everyone is suggesting, there will not be much time left to come up with new ones, which is obviously what he enjoys doing. Inventing things is not necessarily something you do to make a profit from it.
TirianB 1 year ago
Matthias, as I said on the other video, this is a great design.
I do have one thought, would it be more convenient & precise if the table slide stops were mounted on machine screws? The open slot design seems to be a bit hit-or-miss. I haven't seen the plans for your machine so my comment may not apply; you may have another feature that simplifies the adjustment process that I haven't seen.
deezynar 1 year ago
That is pure genius, how can one man design and build so many amazing machines. Everyone who's seen any of Matthias' videos must be awe of his genius.
Just look at the Likes/dislikes count. Everybody loves his work.
TheFsxmad 1 year ago
Awesome! Simple and beautiful. What cad software do you use?
threeque 1 year ago
@lapispinoza Good One! LOL
BradburyGuy 1 year ago
This machine really takes the cake! This would make a German engineer proud!
jasonlajoie 1 year ago
This machine really takes the cake!
jasonlajoie 1 year ago
man, i just hope your'e a millionarie, if not sell your creations to the masses.
awesome , genius..
homerlikesbeer 1 year ago
fucking genius
steeeeeezy 1 year ago
absolute genius. that is all i can say.
thdominat0r 1 year ago
There's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said, so I guess I will have to repeat previous comments. Matthias, you are a genius! Am I correct in saying that you are an engineer? Because if you're not, you are in the wrong field of work, my friend! I hope that I can one day have the workshop you have full of handmade engineered tools and machines like you do. Mega props to you, Sir! Your videos are always worth the wait!
locoken 1 year ago
Muss schon soagn, des hasch echt guat gmacht.. :-) Deine Vorrichtungen sind schon erste Sahne.. Grüssle aus dem weit entfernten Allgäu. Andy
catforce 1 year ago
genial. Felicidades por tu imaginación.
brachichito 1 year ago
Matthias, I can't help but think it could be a pain to align two pieces that will end up mating - I.e. the piece with the mortise and the piece with the tenon... I notice the table holding the workpiece has no fence or alignment faces to push the workpiece up against, and I also notice your templates float up or down on the frame.
So how do you ensure the tenons will be placed exactly where they need to be so that the outside faces will align?
TrimbleEpic 1 year ago
Did you get a patent for this invention yet?, I know that this type of a routing technique / mechanism do exist, in small scale at least, I have used one in high school to make a plastic custom lettered key-chain. But I never seen one this big and in this kind of wood routing application. I think you still have scope for a patent unless some major wood working company already incorporates this technique in there product manufacturing. So research on that. before investing too much money,
LTF85199 1 year ago
Brilliant, elegant, and useful. You've outdone yourself and just about everyone else in the process! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!
Quick question... how close to exactly 2:1 is the ratio? With even the best human craftsmanship, I'd think you'd be bound to end up with something like a 1.95:1 ratio. Can you post measurements of the template and product for something simple, like a tenon?
entropomorphic 1 year ago 3
The ratio is probably somewhere in the range of 1.995 to 2.005. The ratio is just one of many things that can be inaccurate - it's more likely that there are subtle distortions that aren't a simple ratio. It's easier to make sure the machine and it's parts are accurate enough than it is to try to calibrate the inaccuracies.
Matthiaswandel 1 year ago
Very impressive, I know from experience how hard it is to get this kind of accuracy with "wooden machines". You do on a consistent basis, and my hat is off to you sir.
pumkinvine 1 year ago
Brilliant Idea man! Thanks ;]
Demoman42 1 year ago
ah i love this channel :)
tagi3d 1 year ago
After watching your videos I always feel like I need a brain transplant!
BradburyGuy 1 year ago 12
One day he's going to build a machine that completely replaces him.
DEATHBYFLYINGCDS 1 year ago 2
@DEATHBYFLYINGCDS lmao
rom901 1 year ago
Hats off to your creativity, Matthias. It's refreshing to see an intelligent person with such passion for their work.
Carbunkal 1 year ago 3
@OldSchool People like you are what has made this country great.The computer now creates the opportunity for all of us to learn from one another. Thanks for sharing your ideas.
tracybrislin 1 year ago
Absolutely brilliant. Thats all I can think of to say!
senorquax 1 year ago
I'm absolutely amazed. You're such a genius.
channelsurferbf 1 year ago
Matthiaswandel - making youtubers feel more inferior with every video he posts.
Sully800 1 year ago
@Sully800 You say that like it's a bad thing. :D
asaguda 1 year ago
Genius!
sooth15 1 year ago
Thumbs up!
2x7 1 year ago
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rivengle 1 year ago
@rivengle im pretty sure even if he didnt have it patented (which he obviously does) these videos would be living proof that he made it first.
Gh0sty1 1 year ago
human powered cnc machine
yacrafter 1 year ago
SAVANT!!
wvb93 1 year ago
I hate you...you're way to smart for your own good.
BLIX5445 1 year ago
Very cool! :) I like how you explain the intuition and concept on how it works.
cowboy219 1 year ago
This is why I love you. You have nice brains.
spinafire 1 year ago
i love machines. this is porn.
grandexandi 1 year ago 7
can this be repeated to infinity, where you can multiply something by 2 every time?
RYDERkN 1 year ago
the stuff you make is just amazing i love it
TheGregoryfw 1 year ago 2
Thanks for showing us how this works. I liked the size too.
Nososhell 1 year ago
you file for patent for you designs. AWESOME stuff man!
ojneb123 1 year ago
Unreal, your videos are by far my favorite and I look forward to them every week. Thanks for taking the time!
mdmccat 1 year ago
@herpderpdiddlydoo guess he isnt interested into fortune
Shuhnyxia 1 year ago
Your my woodworking engineering hero!
ecasequin 1 year ago
Seriously, your cool
viatus 1 year ago
what cant you make...?
Gater1337 1 year ago 2
If there existed a master woodworker rank, you'd have it.
joshcryer 1 year ago 2
That is really incredible, love how your special tools are made almost entirely of wood.
oOoxelAoOo 1 year ago
Machines to reproduce keys work like this, but great idea for woodwork :)
1hdsquad 1 year ago
:O
just genius!, getting used to this from you men, great work!
Cheers from Chile
groggycl 1 year ago
your a genious!
dillydean 1 year ago
Patent this!
Bartalon 1 year ago
I would love to see a video on how to use this for dovetails as i am using dovetails on a wooden chess board at school and am finding them quite hard and time consuming and would love to see an alternate way of doing them. Thanks
AscariGood 1 year ago
Better patten this.
EuroPowa 1 year ago
You better paten that now bud!
MatthewTS22 1 year ago 3
@MatthewTS22 Of course and fast before anybody steel the idea!
PhilStPierre 1 year ago
mad effing respect man, mad effing respect
cavedude80 1 year ago
You're a genious!
TheTocksic 1 year ago
@TheTocksic Genius*
dragster178 1 year ago 2
@dragster178 And apparently i'm not... lol
TheTocksic 1 year ago
i want 1
dwubsly 1 year ago
This is awesome! Brilliant!
Yeti22 1 year ago
cool machine... dude you so smart!! respect
paulius360 1 year ago
Really really awesome ;)
ownage500 1 year ago
Matthias you are great. Love the designs.
scarmenl 1 year ago
You are a wizard.
randomviewer896 1 year ago 3
You probably thought of this already , but maby make one with pins to set varioius scale sizes or variable adjustable one. I've only heard of those pantagraphs before, so I havent experimented to see if it's possible, I'm guessing it is.
trailkeeper 1 year ago
Thank you. I really enjoyed watching this video!
Neropatti 1 year ago
amazing!
cubeMaster018 1 year ago
awesome
pczaban 1 year ago
you are so cool , a genius in woodworking :)
mihaiviteazu5 1 year ago
you must be a reincarnation of god
jvcrules 1 year ago
@jvcrules god isnt dead
and yet he is all
robot797 1 year ago
Omfg! Can I have one too?? You could make heaps if you sold these idea's.
175myles 1 year ago
genius! wow
OO7ACEMASTER 1 year ago