Good way to do the comparisons by playing identical pasages on each. Thanks for the answer to my first question. I would imagine that even just using the same amp, like in this demo, but with the Recto2 on one side and say the Brit 4 x 12 on the other, they might compliment each other and give better dimension and depth to the overall sound. Have you, or can you post a demo of that. I realize that this medium is very limited for the actual sound.
@jackbad2 I'd love to go nutts and post tons of stuff. I have no freakin' time anymore!!!! I got the real amps too and want show an A/B comparo. I have learned this and I believe it is fact: "it REALLY is in YOUR technique - the TONE you get is a reflection of MOSTLY your technique. Finger pressure is a HUGE factor". You can sound good with just about ANYTHING. The feel you get from an amp is a different story - the better the feel, the better you play as you feed off of that.
@Voodutube Thanks for your response. It is most appropriate. As you obviousely know, as you can "Pull" the sound out of tubes with your own articulation and technique, is what I think everyone is referring to as the "Feel" that is related to tube amps. Is the Axe FX able to respond to your technique similar to tubes, in your opinion?
@jackbad2 I say yes it does to an extent, but the tone out of the axe-fx is super consistent and "ideal" - like it is almost too even. Hard to explain. With a tube amp, you have to be on your toes to squeeze out good consistent tones, but the axe is more forgiving where it just always sounds like you are "on" - most would se this as a good thing. People understand the work that goes into playing a tube amp and when you play the axe, it is like you won the right to stop working so hard!!!! :0)
@jackbad2 Yes - two totally independent amp paths - 2 amps two cabs two sets of effects - all panned wherever or jump back and forth - two amps into one cab, one amp into two cabs. One amp gets phaser one doesn't - one signal chain is clean one totally distorted. Thats just the amp paths - you can branch into 4 parallel signal paths from there. Literally ANY combination in ANY order!!!!! You could run reverb into a cab into a phaser into a delay then into an amp if you wanted.
I thought the 25w would be the greenbacks, RECTO V30s, and the 75w or BRIT would be T-75s, but then they have GREEN/V30/T75, as well as a JCM2000 which would be T75s also... what gives?
Honestly there isn't much tweaking you HAVE or NEED to do. I just pick an amp, pick a cab and I'm ready to go - they sound great as-is. A few minutes of tweaks like adding a mic, turing up the master volume or MAYBE adjusting a power amp parameter - but that is about it for me. The axe-fx has parameters for everyone, but not everyone needs all the parameters!!!! As far as which cab to choose? Depends on mood. I switch between Cali, Recto, V30 and German cabs for most of my sounds....
cool...everything i see on here says these things are awesome. I so used to being disappointed with the line 6 stuff that i'm gun shy about these modelers now. they always are missing a little something, especially on the heavy stuff. the axefx seems like the real deal though and i would be hard pressed to pick out the difference between one and a real amp.
I agree - I SWEAR the sound I got from my MK IV or IIC+ mic'd thru my mesa 4x12 w/v30's with an sm-57 is spot on to the axe-fx simulation - even captures the "bad elements" of the sound too.
have you tried the ultra? sometimes companies mess up some of what was great originally on version 2, so i'm curious if it is even better than this original axefx?
From what I know there is no TONE difference between any version. The ultra has more horsepower and features, but no better simulation. Its a PC basically with room to add more amps and cabs and such.....
Yeah all of the amp sims and effects are the same with the exception of the reverb and pitch blocks. The reverb has an extra diffuser stage and the pitch has slightly better detection.
Every gear demo should be done this way!!! It could be a bit boring for you....but with the same riff and rythm + solo parts differences are really clear (main display highlighted is great).
Any chance to have another video showing different amp sim, without fx?
I know there are a ton of setting in amp sims....but hearing just the main tone differences while playing always the same riffs would be great! I've seen zillions axefx videos and noone is doing a proper demo.
Good way to do the comparisons by playing identical pasages on each. Thanks for the answer to my first question. I would imagine that even just using the same amp, like in this demo, but with the Recto2 on one side and say the Brit 4 x 12 on the other, they might compliment each other and give better dimension and depth to the overall sound. Have you, or can you post a demo of that. I realize that this medium is very limited for the actual sound.
jackbad2 1 year ago
@jackbad2 I'd love to go nutts and post tons of stuff. I have no freakin' time anymore!!!! I got the real amps too and want show an A/B comparo. I have learned this and I believe it is fact: "it REALLY is in YOUR technique - the TONE you get is a reflection of MOSTLY your technique. Finger pressure is a HUGE factor". You can sound good with just about ANYTHING. The feel you get from an amp is a different story - the better the feel, the better you play as you feed off of that.
Voodutube 1 year ago
@Voodutube Thanks for your response. It is most appropriate. As you obviousely know, as you can "Pull" the sound out of tubes with your own articulation and technique, is what I think everyone is referring to as the "Feel" that is related to tube amps. Is the Axe FX able to respond to your technique similar to tubes, in your opinion?
jackbad2 1 year ago
@jackbad2 I say yes it does to an extent, but the tone out of the axe-fx is super consistent and "ideal" - like it is almost too even. Hard to explain. With a tube amp, you have to be on your toes to squeeze out good consistent tones, but the axe is more forgiving where it just always sounds like you are "on" - most would se this as a good thing. People understand the work that goes into playing a tube amp and when you play the axe, it is like you won the right to stop working so hard!!!! :0)
Voodutube 1 year ago
Can you run two independent chains in parallel with two different amps, Cabs, etc. for some real depth plus the regular effects?
jackbad2 1 year ago
@jackbad2 Yes - two totally independent amp paths - 2 amps two cabs two sets of effects - all panned wherever or jump back and forth - two amps into one cab, one amp into two cabs. One amp gets phaser one doesn't - one signal chain is clean one totally distorted. Thats just the amp paths - you can branch into 4 parallel signal paths from there. Literally ANY combination in ANY order!!!!! You could run reverb into a cab into a phaser into a delay then into an amp if you wanted.
Voodutube 1 year ago
Really interesting demo. Also ordered my ultra from Fractal, coming on Friday. Really excited!
cheopsnet 1 year ago
I thought the 25w would be the greenbacks, RECTO V30s, and the 75w or BRIT would be T-75s, but then they have GREEN/V30/T75, as well as a JCM2000 which would be T75s also... what gives?
21fretsalute 1 year ago
can I ask where you purchased yours? Thanks
gantman 2 years ago
got it direct from fractal audio - sent the next day. never looked back....
Voodutube 2 years ago
@gantman I liked the cali and v30 the best! but wow! thanks for the vid man...
dwg116 1 year ago
probably the best amp modelling I've heard, look forward to the vst version coming out.
timspriggs 2 years ago
nice job i was thinking about doing same thing for amp sims lol
adamp2 2 years ago
thx, an amp sim demo would be great - a big undertaking - good luck.
Voodutube 2 years ago
how much is the cheapest axe-fx?
i NEED one of them things
KirisuteGomen17 2 years ago
$1,500. I sold my old stuff and have never been so geeked about my soundz..... Worth every cent.
Voodutube 2 years ago
im doing the same same, which includeds a mesa head (im buying a rackmount vht) please tell me there is nothing wrong with this unit
drivenad66113355 2 years ago
very pro demo, you can see the differences totally with the same guitar parts, well done mate great help to all looking at getting a axe fx
jabbertheferb 2 years ago
excellent demonstration! i think i liked recto 2 best. how do you choose just one? those axefx units must be tweak city all day.
99voltsdotcom 2 years ago
Honestly there isn't much tweaking you HAVE or NEED to do. I just pick an amp, pick a cab and I'm ready to go - they sound great as-is. A few minutes of tweaks like adding a mic, turing up the master volume or MAYBE adjusting a power amp parameter - but that is about it for me. The axe-fx has parameters for everyone, but not everyone needs all the parameters!!!! As far as which cab to choose? Depends on mood. I switch between Cali, Recto, V30 and German cabs for most of my sounds....
Voodutube 2 years ago
cool...everything i see on here says these things are awesome. I so used to being disappointed with the line 6 stuff that i'm gun shy about these modelers now. they always are missing a little something, especially on the heavy stuff. the axefx seems like the real deal though and i would be hard pressed to pick out the difference between one and a real amp.
99voltsdotcom 2 years ago
I agree - I SWEAR the sound I got from my MK IV or IIC+ mic'd thru my mesa 4x12 w/v30's with an sm-57 is spot on to the axe-fx simulation - even captures the "bad elements" of the sound too.
Voodutube 2 years ago
have you tried the ultra? sometimes companies mess up some of what was great originally on version 2, so i'm curious if it is even better than this original axefx?
99voltsdotcom 2 years ago
From what I know there is no TONE difference between any version. The ultra has more horsepower and features, but no better simulation. Its a PC basically with room to add more amps and cabs and such.....
Voodutube 2 years ago
Yeah all of the amp sims and effects are the same with the exception of the reverb and pitch blocks. The reverb has an extra diffuser stage and the pitch has slightly better detection.
sujayakar314 2 years ago
ok. thx. love ur vids...keep em coming.
99voltsdotcom 2 years ago
Every gear demo should be done this way!!! It could be a bit boring for you....but with the same riff and rythm + solo parts differences are really clear (main display highlighted is great).
Any chance to have another video showing different amp sim, without fx?
I know there are a ton of setting in amp sims....but hearing just the main tone differences while playing always the same riffs would be great! I've seen zillions axefx videos and noone is doing a proper demo.
Thanks, 5 stars for you!
fantasyl 2 years ago
THX and I agree - may be boring to some, but you need to have the SAME riff and notes to do an accurate comparison. Will do more in future....
Voodutube 2 years ago