Hey Nutn, are you ever going to come back to this and re-review it? A friend of mine is seriously considering buying one of these. All I can find online are a bunch of armchair-generals who just either say it's really awesome or their 9mm could beat it. I'd prefer a full on review from you though.
I hope nutnfacy actually has time to go out and shoot the five seven. I'm actually thinking about owning a five-seven, even if people hate it for its caliber.
so now that it is 2012 could you do a update one the 5.7x 28 plz im looking at geting one and i would love to see what you think about it being out for 6 years now
lol alright, so i just finished all 4 of the 5-7 reviews. i gotta say i love how detailed nutnfancy is. however i am a young handgun owner. (obtained at 19, be 20 in February). i own a Glock 19 passed through my family and i gotta say i love it, but almost done upgrading it. but i have a delema. im interested in buying a new pistol when im 21 and i plan on getting my ccw. the options i have are, FN 5-7, H&K Usp .45(compact or full, cant choose), or possibly the HK.45.
ive always loved H&K but im falling for this FN. im now watching nutns review on the usp to the glock 23 so ill repost this on there as well. thank you
I fucking hate it how people are trying to get it banned, due to it's rounds. They say terrorists might use it. Fuck that, terrorists also use AKs, M4s, you might as well ban guns. How many desert monkey terrorists are gonna get a 1000 dollar gun anyway. This is the perfect gun, and with everything else that is perfect, a bunch of upper middle class pussy soccer mom housewives with nothing to do have to complain because they think it will somehow effect there stupid little children.
@Bloodyvains71 they are trying to disregard and stop the historical arms race in small arms. We need improvements in one system to show flaws in another, to therefore make improvements in armor and new pistols. I dont imagine it will stop until peaceful jedi with lightsabers all perfectly protect us all with the force.
I bought one 4 months ago - I love it. Low recoil, which makes it alot easier for ME to shoot. That said, the weight is done well for what is going on mechanically. The slide is where the weight is, and its positioned in a way that makes muzzle bump minimal(for me anyway). Easier on the wrist than some .44's I have shot, but not as much kick either. Although that should go without saying, the 5.7 rd is alot more potent than the .22, but I have shot many .22's that kick more than the 5.7.
I would like to see a follow-up to this cartridge. I realize TNP has a lot on the table, but its been 3 years and I love all the information and standards (POU, Threshold of armament, all that stuff) that TNP put into all their videos. I am still on the rail with this one. Is it catching on?
Ft Hood was just one instance of its lethality. 2 other SWAT situations also proved its lethality. Dont know the details but both were one shot drops. One of the SWAT situations ended by the BG's heart being split in half due to the tumbling 5.7 round. Very few situations exist proving this a capable cartridge, but all of them are strong proof that this bullet is effective.
Unfortunately, Ft. Hood showed that the 5.7x28 is a very efficient round. If California ever changes it's laws on the 10 round limit, I would purchase this pistol.
God, I am so ashamed to be from the Commie-Hippy Republic of California. There is no reason here! High corruption from government and law-enforcement officials that criminalize the law-abiding in their right to protect them lives and property, while rewarding and giving criminals a free ride on our tax dollar. Disgusting. Long live true Americans and the Constitution.
@cshgeo Don't you love the bills Brown just signed. I don't want leave California; I want to see a fundamental change. Maybe, the courts will see how oppressive California gun laws and over rule them. I can only vote and hope for change here.
Great job Nutn, as always. Would still love to see you do a car/auto carry/survival type kit, I'm sure EVERYONE would love to see you do a vid like that. Thanks again Nutn, keep up the great work!!!
@backingslowly He did a review....something you haven't been able to accomplish. AND...105,000 people have watched it (good luck making THAT happen yourself). YouTube is full of people who don't do jack squat themselves, but like to drag the people who DO make things happen down. It makes them feel better about their sad little lives. -- Veri
@nutnfancy, I would really like to see the ps90 in a run and gun video / Review. I recently purchased one and REALLY enjoy it. I wonder what you have to say about it. Thanks! -Sentll
no its not, its mostly polymer. its metal wer it needs to be. just like the glock, and many other new weapons that are stepping down off their high-horses and realizing how well polymer is. just cuz it has "plastic" doesnt mean its not a good weapon. hope this helpd, have a nice day.
oh, I thought you just meant that in general the polymer guns are crap. ya, alot of people like full metal over the new polymer guns. no prolm with that, but glocks and others are still good, very trustworthy weapons. have a nice day.
I'm actually surprised that nutnfancy actually thinks that this round has "stopping power" or is a "man-stopper". Stopping power is a myth. It all depends on your shot placement and where you shoot the target. There was an incident in which a undercover narcotics agent was shot by a suspect multiple times in the chest with .45ACP from point blank range and lived to shoot the suspect in the face with a .38 special and the suspect died instantly...
@RayAir1 I wouldn't say the 5.7 round is an amped up .22. The round is in it's own league. It has abilities that no other handgun round has. No other conventional handgun round has the ability to shoot flat at 1800+ FPS, have the ability to penetrate body armor, and manage to tumble inside your body creating a larger wound cavity, and NOT over penetrate the target. If there is another handgun round out there that can do all of that, then please let me know!
@RayAir1 ok smart guy the one that can pierce body armor at distance is the one you can't buy (SS190) the EA does not pierce armor like the SS190 can(it is lead free), you have to stand about 4x closer with EA ammuniton than with the ss190 to get almost similar results so that about kills its usefullness, it would be just as effective to buy a Tokarev chambered for 7.62x25mm
You never mentioned that the 5.7 has almost no recoil making follow up shots spot on and all 30 rounds can be dumped into several targets right where you need them. Also, the 5.7x28mm is VERY ACCURATE and I can put rounds in a 10 inch plate at 100 yards easy. However, rounds cost $22 for 50 and to me that's expensive but I still love my Five Seven.
@Pre5tigeMau5Official Heh, fat Ass. You're Funny. Fuckin Belligerent Prick making Stereotypical Remarks On shit you Dont Know About. Go back to your seat there, couch commando.
@Pre5tigeMau5Official ...Noooo.. im not Wrong. I Know Almost every Weapon FNH has made sense they began to make guns... BUT, the Splinter Cell Series Has Been a HUGE Marketing advantage for The Gun... So quiet being a dip shit, and stfu.
Quickly became my favorite gun. Tough to find, I went in to "just look around" 3 weeks ago and the owner said he had 2 of these left in stock. A black one and an olive one. He had them priced at $1299 each , I got him down to $925 each so I bought them both. Possibly the greatest purchases I've ever made. Gave my wife the olive one and I'm getting the feeling she love's it more than she love's me. Belgium hit a home run with this gun!
This is not a "stopping power" round. Its a high velocity "penetrating" round. A kind of small rifle cartridge in a pistol. Its only a 40 grain bullet. But LE loads go over 2100FPS with a steel penetrator. Through a kevlar vest and helmet. Or through a wall to hit the perp.
Does this honestly have any stopping power? don,t get me wrong, its an awesome gun that i'm sure is extremely well made, but how does a 5.7mm round stop anything?
From what I've read the round "starts a controlled tumble once it enters a soft medium." It might not have the blunt force of a heavier round, but I certainly wouldn't want something "tumbling" inside of me, especially something that was going 2000ish feet per second. Hope that helps to answer your question
I would love to purchase this pistol because of the unique round size, sexy look and just to have it in a collection! Very interesting gun. Nutn, have you fired it yet?
You've mentioned the P90 a few times, I thought that sounded familiar. That's the weapon they use in the Stargate TV show. ^^ It seemed like a good weapon, but for some reason I never looked into it.
@gumarro72 I think that they may find it to be something of a status symbol due to it's expensiveness. And maybe the assumed and misinformed belief that it'll beat body armor. Low recoil and uber coolness are just great bonuses
@LOKIUNCIA When i hear about the five-seven, i think of the first time i was introduced to it from the old Counter-Strike on PC. Fuck Splinter Cell, lol
Rare ammo come doomsday, won't be worth much when you are trying to barter for some water and meat compared to 9mm. Expensive ammo so practice at the range (the only true measure of how deadly and effective a gun is) is harder. Penetrates too much for home defense.
Have a 5.7 Shot a 25lb propane tank @ 40 yds Pierced it and dented the back, so not totally through. .45, 9mm, & .40s&w only dented the front from 20 yds .223 totally through @ 75 yds
@03SRT10 the way the 5.7 is made is so that it doesnt over penetrate so it will peirce the armor and stay in the person you are trying to shoot maim/kill that is the purpose of those rounds it actually turns 90 degrees so it doesnt over penetrate. try shooting it at 75 yards and seeing if it will still go through part of the tank i would love to hear the news.
Well, that's forty minutes I'll never get back! nutnfancy you are one massively wordy fellow. In all that time, no stats, no ballistics, no firing. What kind of a review is that? Get the stat/facts, shoot the pistol, THEN give a review and EDIT the darn thing to one vid.
Thanks for spending so much time reviewing this gun, but $1000 for a polymer gun is no doubt expensive. You can buy 2 glocks at this price, and the ammo is 2x as expensive than the standard 9. In a communist state of america, max is 10 rounds, and it's illegal to get Kevlar penitrating ammo. So there's basically no use getting this gun.
@rickylain I have this gun. I have two 20 round clips and a 30 round clip. I have the armor piercing ammo that I bought in bulk at a gun show. $20/box if you buy in bulk as I did. You CAN buy two glocks with the same amount of money, but the 9mm round holds no candle to the 5.7 x 28 round.
@ruinerfixxxer Good for you. I don't own mercedes or ferraris. But it's certainly nice to look at this gun, the same reason I look at exotic cars. When it comes to putting out the hard earned cash for it, I'll have to pass.
@mimixownzall Caps off and calm the fuck down. Jesus. I bet you're one of those people who have to correct every little thing if someone's a little off. I think everyone knows what he's talking about. Don't be such a technical douchebag know it all.
@nutnfancy Have you considered doing a revisit to the five.seven with some more hands on experience? I would enjoy that very much, as I am sure others would too.
Major Nidal Malik Hasan fired over 100 rounds and killed 13 people. This is a 13% kill ratio. I would think if he fired 100 rounds of 45 ACP, 45 Colt, or 44 magum, there would have been even more deaths. I don't think it has the killing power touted. If he had a 45 ACP, I "think" it would have been much worse. It does seems designed to penetrate armor.
the FN 20 round mags - had he carried a different gun there is a good chance he would have had the same number of mags - but less shots - up to half. Also, the range and accuracy is improved with the FN 5-7 . A long rang 45 ACP would have likely been less accurate - so perhaps he misses more often. I can only guess - but I think he misses more and shoots fewer rounds with some other gun - given the same number of mags.
So how did Major Nidal Malik Hasan get an FN5.7 before his attack at Fort Hood injuring and killing over 30 U.S. Service Personel? The Five Seven was the subject of a U.S. federal ban in 2005 that failed. A Second Investigation into a U.S. Ban of the Pistol is under review as of Feb 2010 due to further concerns of Law Enforcement Test results in failures of over penetration with FN 5.7x28 SS196 (Non Armor Piercing) failing recent test.
FN Designed this pistol but the sporting SS197 ammo is now also being manufactured by Federal Cartridge and can still penetrate 13 layers of kevlar, This pistol is about to hit a restricted listing to Military and Gov only, if you got one get ready to bury it.
The ss190 AP round for 5.7x28 has put the ss109 penetrator 5.56x45mm to shame being capable of defeating 40 layers of kevlar (YES 40), The most controlled round of ammo in the U.S. the FN 5.7 is the current Service pistol for the U.S. Secret Service. This gun was designed Specifically by FN for the Soviets to defeat Body Armor. Research and Realize, Most lethal pistol ever created and it will be banned. Make no mistake this pistol was designed for Mil/Gov and not civilians, USG being U.S. Gov
@catacombshadows Major Nidal Malik Hasan fired over 100 rounds and killed 13 people. This is a 13% kill ratio. I would think if he fired 100 rounds of 45 ACP, 45 Colt, or 44 magum, there would have been even more deaths. I don't think it has the killing power touted. If he had a 45 ACP, I "think" it would have been much worse.
this would be a good bet for those sites that bet on all the crazy stuff; short term and long term alike. I've got 50 that says it'll be dead in 5. Unless some other manufacturers start chambering major runs for it, I don't think it'll survive on FN's back alone. That said, I still want a Five-Seven.
The SS109 is banned from imporation, and no more will probably come in to the USA ever. It puches straight through armor at 200+ meters. Since its banned now, there is only very little left. Thats why it is $4-6 compared to $.30 for the non armor peircing stuff.
@8888Duke8888 people are afraid that their use in crimes would lead to more cop deaths. As most people watching gun videos on youtube, I don't trust the guvmint with anything they don't trust me with.
The 5.7x28mm has the same concept as the 5.56x45mm. Theoretically its suppose to dump all its energy in to the bad guy, fragment and tumble. Giving your devastating stopping power from a bullet that's, I think not much different from the .22mag in length and bullet size, pretty small. Now about the accuracy part should be pretty good considering its a pistol.
i'm just a gun geek...I've never actually fired a weapon...but i have to say...this gun is very very cool to me, it has the firepower, the range, the ergonomics,all the cool stuff.
Five-seveN® Tactical pistols and SS190 round team up to defeat the enemy in all close combat situations in urban areas, jungle conditions, night missions and any self defense action.
i read this on FNs webpage. "accurat" to 200 meters is good!
Highly Accurate
The flat trajectory of the 5.7 x 28 mm ammunition guarantes a high hit probability up to 200 m.
I believe this weapon is way ahead of it's time. Don't be surprised to see your local law enforcement carrying these in the next decade. I have really been interested in this piece since it first came out. Very good reviews thank you for the insight.
price for piece, the glock has a lot over the 5.7, my uncle used to own both about 2 years ago, and he said however accurate the 5.7 at 200 yards the glock beats it with its equal fit and finish.. your paying double for a gun that is 5% more accurate.
@Eritu 200 yards?? you're not really gonna be shooting at someone with a pistol 200 yards away in a self defense situation... Dont listen to what people tell you about a gun because all shooters are different go out and shoot it who knows how you will like it
let me first say this gun is one amazing pistol. however, it is not a good carry gun or home defense gun in my opinion. it has way too much potential for over penetration and hitting unintended targets. secondly, it does not have the stopping power that a personal defense weapon should have. i have seen enemy combatants in Afghanistan shot 5 or 6 times before going down from an m4. similar round except longer. this weapon (technically the round) is intended for defeating body armor.
In war they shoot full metal jackets, and I would say that getting shot by a Ballistic tip 5.7 round would be alot worse than getting shot by one with a FMJ in it. Its definately not as good as a .45 for self defense but i still think that it is a very good gun for self defense simply because there is lack of recoil and 20 round mags, My wife loves hers and can shoot it very well.
Lightweight bullets at a higher velocity have always had proponents. Slower heavyweight bullets at a slower velocity have always enjoyed a good rep for stopping power. Higher speed projectiles depend on creating a large wound cavity sometimes these occur in places that have little or no effect. Larger projectiles usually do more damage without overpenetration / exit wound. This is one reason the good ol' .45 does just about as well as the .357 in one shot stops without the exit wound of a .357.
Here in S.C. the price is $950.00. Yea, it was used in the fort hood shooting. This thing is a dream to shoot and the 20 round mag. its a great plinker. The super light weight makes it a great carry piece!
@pbellis100 teflon coated bullets do nothing but lubricate the barrel. The only reason they were banned was because of a bad public rep like an ak 47 or m 16.
How about this scenario, A Glock was used in the VT shooting s, and nobody was calling for police organizations and private citizens to ban them. Cops did not call for than ban of them.
Yeah, we have equal opportunity in America and obviously let this individual in the military. He obviously cracked from the pressure of his future tour in Afghanistan. That and the nut made the violent reaction of the shooting.
He obviously had some planning, this gun has a hefty price tag and rare ammo.
This is not the time to call for a ban of the weapon, they keep mentioning how it is armor piercing, thats a lie, it did not have the right ammo. But they were unarmored.
I don't have an update for stopping power, but I DO have an update for ammo availability and even platforms OTHER than the Five-seveN and P90/PS90 that chamber this round!
I read an article in the February 2010 issue of Combat Handguns (pp. 20-24) about it. (Before you call BS, sometimes magazines come early to Navy bases! =P) There's a company called Elite Ammunition that also loads the 5.7MM. They even have hand-loading supplies! ImpactGuns also has "AR57" upper receivers. Guess what caliber?
The cool part about the 5.7x28 round is that it rotates about 90 degrees in a few inches after impact and it will stop after about 8 inches through soft tissue. Also the shock delivered to the target will be around 3-4 times that of a 9mm. So if you hit a bone or hard tissue almost if not all the energy will be transferred.
Hey Nutn, are you ever going to come back to this and re-review it? A friend of mine is seriously considering buying one of these. All I can find online are a bunch of armchair-generals who just either say it's really awesome or their 9mm could beat it. I'd prefer a full on review from you though.
chaff5 2 weeks ago
getting 1 very soon !!! awesome awesome pistol !!
SneakaSeeka 2 weeks ago in playlist Handgun Reviews
I hope nutnfacy actually has time to go out and shoot the five seven. I'm actually thinking about owning a five-seven, even if people hate it for its caliber.
Arata414 3 weeks ago
so now that it is 2012 could you do a update one the 5.7x 28 plz im looking at geting one and i would love to see what you think about it being out for 6 years now
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hyska47 1 month ago
lol alright, so i just finished all 4 of the 5-7 reviews. i gotta say i love how detailed nutnfancy is. however i am a young handgun owner. (obtained at 19, be 20 in February). i own a Glock 19 passed through my family and i gotta say i love it, but almost done upgrading it. but i have a delema. im interested in buying a new pistol when im 21 and i plan on getting my ccw. the options i have are, FN 5-7, H&K Usp .45(compact or full, cant choose), or possibly the HK.45.
hyska47 1 month ago
ive always loved H&K but im falling for this FN. im now watching nutns review on the usp to the glock 23 so ill repost this on there as well. thank you
hyska47 1 month ago
I fucking hate it how people are trying to get it banned, due to it's rounds. They say terrorists might use it. Fuck that, terrorists also use AKs, M4s, you might as well ban guns. How many desert monkey terrorists are gonna get a 1000 dollar gun anyway. This is the perfect gun, and with everything else that is perfect, a bunch of upper middle class pussy soccer mom housewives with nothing to do have to complain because they think it will somehow effect there stupid little children.
Bloodyvains71 2 months ago 12
@Bloodyvains71 they are trying to disregard and stop the historical arms race in small arms. We need improvements in one system to show flaws in another, to therefore make improvements in armor and new pistols. I dont imagine it will stop until peaceful jedi with lightsabers all perfectly protect us all with the force.
jmyersv1 1 month ago
I bought one 4 months ago - I love it. Low recoil, which makes it alot easier for ME to shoot. That said, the weight is done well for what is going on mechanically. The slide is where the weight is, and its positioned in a way that makes muzzle bump minimal(for me anyway). Easier on the wrist than some .44's I have shot, but not as much kick either. Although that should go without saying, the 5.7 rd is alot more potent than the .22, but I have shot many .22's that kick more than the 5.7.
theschotty 3 months ago
Hey nutn have you ever thought about re-doing this review with some trigger time on it and more experience with it and what not?
JSCincorporated 4 months ago
I would like to see a follow-up to this cartridge. I realize TNP has a lot on the table, but its been 3 years and I love all the information and standards (POU, Threshold of armament, all that stuff) that TNP put into all their videos. I am still on the rail with this one. Is it catching on?
Werfed 4 months ago
Ft Hood was just one instance of its lethality. 2 other SWAT situations also proved its lethality. Dont know the details but both were one shot drops. One of the SWAT situations ended by the BG's heart being split in half due to the tumbling 5.7 round. Very few situations exist proving this a capable cartridge, but all of them are strong proof that this bullet is effective.
lEgaLiZeVOLVE 5 months ago
Unfortunately, Ft. Hood showed that the 5.7x28 is a very efficient round. If California ever changes it's laws on the 10 round limit, I would purchase this pistol.
GhostFishSlayer 5 months ago
@GhostFishSlayer
God, I am so ashamed to be from the Commie-Hippy Republic of California. There is no reason here! High corruption from government and law-enforcement officials that criminalize the law-abiding in their right to protect them lives and property, while rewarding and giving criminals a free ride on our tax dollar. Disgusting. Long live true Americans and the Constitution.
cshgeo 4 months ago
@cshgeo Don't you love the bills Brown just signed. I don't want leave California; I want to see a fundamental change. Maybe, the courts will see how oppressive California gun laws and over rule them. I can only vote and hope for change here.
GhostFishSlayer 4 months ago
i want one whats the price
ftw7827 5 months ago
I am a confident that the ammo will be compete with the 9mm, 40 S&W, and .45 ACP.
SuperRip7 6 months ago
I can't believe that it holds 30 rds that's amazing
MrDobans13 6 months ago
@MrDobans13 Actually 20 + 1 With a 10rd extension it's so, of cours. Only costs 15 bucks for the extension, and it looks badass.
mrrogue72 2 months ago
Seriously liking this gun.
thatguy66ish 6 months ago
Wow, do you ever shoot the gun??
4 parts of conversation, but no shooting on video?
CD318 7 months ago
@CD318 That's why they call it a "table top review". =) -- Veri
nutnfancy 7 months ago 10
best handgun for womans !
budojon 8 months ago
its like a future luger
MultiAngryRussian 8 months ago
Great job Nutn, as always. Would still love to see you do a car/auto carry/survival type kit, I'm sure EVERYONE would love to see you do a vid like that. Thanks again Nutn, keep up the great work!!!
MrChuckwagon55 8 months ago
@backingslowly He did a review....something you haven't been able to accomplish. AND...105,000 people have watched it (good luck making THAT happen yourself). YouTube is full of people who don't do jack squat themselves, but like to drag the people who DO make things happen down. It makes them feel better about their sad little lives. -- Veri
nutnfancy 9 months ago
review ps90!!!
03vetdude 9 months ago
@nutnfancy, I would really like to see the ps90 in a run and gun video / Review. I recently purchased one and REALLY enjoy it. I wonder what you have to say about it. Thanks! -Sentll
sentll 9 months ago
it's full plastic? it's a joke !
druisten3 9 months ago
@druisten3 no, it's a high quality polymer lower reciever with a polymer encased metal slide
SonyFoLife 9 months ago
@SonyFoLife
ok ! thank
druisten3 9 months ago
@druisten3
no its not, its mostly polymer. its metal wer it needs to be. just like the glock, and many other new weapons that are stepping down off their high-horses and realizing how well polymer is. just cuz it has "plastic" doesnt mean its not a good weapon. hope this helpd, have a nice day.
humboldtgunguy 8 months ago
@humboldtgunguy
yes ... but i love old firearm , full steel , full hand mades
so for me glock and other are a joke
have a nice day
friend
druisten3 8 months ago
@druisten3
oh, I thought you just meant that in general the polymer guns are crap. ya, alot of people like full metal over the new polymer guns. no prolm with that, but glocks and others are still good, very trustworthy weapons. have a nice day.
humboldtgunguy 8 months ago
well luckily for me i've got czech surplus sitting around
SolarEmp1re 9 months ago
review the ps90 please!!!!!!!!
03vetdude 10 months ago
I think the Islamic Terrorist at Ft. Hood put all the "lacks stopping power" folks to bed.
The 5.7x28 round in any form is very effective at what it was designed to do.
Keep in mind, the "Sporting round" was used in TX, there are much faster, and more deadly bullet designs for this pistol, and the PS90 carbine.
Combined, it's the best PDW on the market today. (And the US Secret Service must agree, as they use it every day to protect our leaders.)
AdjusterFZ1 10 months ago
I'm actually surprised that nutnfancy actually thinks that this round has "stopping power" or is a "man-stopper". Stopping power is a myth. It all depends on your shot placement and where you shoot the target. There was an incident in which a undercover narcotics agent was shot by a suspect multiple times in the chest with .45ACP from point blank range and lived to shoot the suspect in the face with a .38 special and the suspect died instantly...
CJL1290 10 months ago
@RayAir1 I wouldn't say the 5.7 round is an amped up .22. The round is in it's own league. It has abilities that no other handgun round has. No other conventional handgun round has the ability to shoot flat at 1800+ FPS, have the ability to penetrate body armor, and manage to tumble inside your body creating a larger wound cavity, and NOT over penetrate the target. If there is another handgun round out there that can do all of that, then please let me know!
CJL1290 10 months ago
The only reason I might want this gun is because certain rounds can penetrate up to 30 layers of Kevlar.
RayAir1 11 months ago
@RayAir1 have fun in jail, 5.7 FMJ is illegal in the US
SolarEmp1re 9 months ago
@SolarEmp1re
No stupid you can buy it legally online from EA ammunition. It isn't the restricted round STUPID.
RayAir1 9 months ago
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SolarEmp1re 9 months ago
@RayAir1 ok smart guy the one that can pierce body armor at distance is the one you can't buy (SS190) the EA does not pierce armor like the SS190 can(it is lead free), you have to stand about 4x closer with EA ammuniton than with the ss190 to get almost similar results so that about kills its usefullness, it would be just as effective to buy a Tokarev chambered for 7.62x25mm
SolarEmp1re 9 months ago
@SolarEmp1re
Only if you could get the steel case or steel core Tokarev.
RayAir1 9 months ago
If i hear him say "Glock" one more time...
cbroadhurst11 11 months ago 3
You never mentioned that the 5.7 has almost no recoil making follow up shots spot on and all 30 rounds can be dumped into several targets right where you need them. Also, the 5.7x28mm is VERY ACCURATE and I can put rounds in a 10 inch plate at 100 yards easy. However, rounds cost $22 for 50 and to me that's expensive but I still love my Five Seven.
ajohnson 11 months ago
Would rather go buy another AR-15 than go drop $1200 for an FN 5.7 (aka- amped up .22)
RayAir1 1 year ago
@RayAir1 LOL, amped up 22, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Youre so funny.
Kylef7735 11 months ago
@RayAir1 You seem to miss the difference between an Assault Rifle and a Pistol.
BigJoeker 11 months ago
i think i know why third Echelon want to give this gun to the splinter cells because it weight , it ammo and more
mactavish911 1 year ago
@Pre5tigeMau5Official Heh, fat Ass. You're Funny. Fuckin Belligerent Prick making Stereotypical Remarks On shit you Dont Know About. Go back to your seat there, couch commando.
LOKIUNCIA 1 year ago
@Pre5tigeMau5Official ...Noooo.. im not Wrong. I Know Almost every Weapon FNH has made sense they began to make guns... BUT, the Splinter Cell Series Has Been a HUGE Marketing advantage for The Gun... So quiet being a dip shit, and stfu.
LOKIUNCIA 1 year ago
Quickly became my favorite gun. Tough to find, I went in to "just look around" 3 weeks ago and the owner said he had 2 of these left in stock. A black one and an olive one. He had them priced at $1299 each , I got him down to $925 each so I bought them both. Possibly the greatest purchases I've ever made. Gave my wife the olive one and I'm getting the feeling she love's it more than she love's me. Belgium hit a home run with this gun!
Tampaslice 1 year ago
This is not a "stopping power" round. Its a high velocity "penetrating" round. A kind of small rifle cartridge in a pistol. Its only a 40 grain bullet. But LE loads go over 2100FPS with a steel penetrator. Through a kevlar vest and helmet. Or through a wall to hit the perp.
thallium200 1 year ago
Does this honestly have any stopping power? don,t get me wrong, its an awesome gun that i'm sure is extremely well made, but how does a 5.7mm round stop anything?
trp11078 1 year ago
@trp11078
From what I've read the round "starts a controlled tumble once it enters a soft medium." It might not have the blunt force of a heavier round, but I certainly wouldn't want something "tumbling" inside of me, especially something that was going 2000ish feet per second. Hope that helps to answer your question
ickyickyyaya2000 1 year ago
no wonder sam fisher uses thin pistol
legohalospartan315 1 year ago 2
I would love to purchase this pistol because of the unique round size, sexy look and just to have it in a collection! Very interesting gun. Nutn, have you fired it yet?
EverythingisFire 1 year ago
Ps-90, semi auto version. P-90 full auto version (no civilian sales).
mata777jal777 1 year ago
@mata777jal777 what's the point of your post?
Sevival 1 year ago
You've mentioned the P90 a few times, I thought that sounded familiar. That's the weapon they use in the Stargate TV show. ^^ It seemed like a good weapon, but for some reason I never looked into it.
Spectre426 1 year ago
One blew up on the range today
MCGCRifleman 1 year ago
Its loud! But love mine!
OpenEye73 1 year ago
quite a pretty gun :D
CODwontons 1 year ago
hitmen in Colombian drug cartels love Five Sevens.
I guess the high capacity comes in handy for them
gumarro72 1 year ago
@gumarro72 I think that they may find it to be something of a status symbol due to it's expensiveness. And maybe the assumed and misinformed belief that it'll beat body armor. Low recoil and uber coolness are just great bonuses
taskforce437 1 year ago
The reason they sell so well? Mexican criminal organizations like to use them.
Davidsmoothflo 1 year ago
@Davidsmoothflo lol I don't they could afford them. these are $1,000 each
nblincoe 1 year ago
The Reason they Sell So Well? 2 Words... Splinter Cell...
LOKIUNCIA 1 year ago 40
@LOKIUNCIA lol
iMagUdspEllr 1 year ago
@LOKIUNCIA gamers and real life shooters are far far away from each other. the game hasn't anything to do with the popularity
keesurt 1 year ago
@keesurt Not True. im a Gamer, and An excellent Shooter As Well.
LOKIUNCIA 1 year ago
@LOKIUNCIA Sam Fisher is a sexy man and you know it.
sonamy123 1 year ago 3
@LOKIUNCIA When i hear about the five-seven, i think of the first time i was introduced to it from the old Counter-Strike on PC. Fuck Splinter Cell, lol
joe735 1 year ago
@LOKIUNCIA man what about counter strike
skumar8 11 months ago
@skumar8 :P Never played, sorry.
LOKIUNCIA 11 months ago
@LOKIUNCIA First off, not true for many reasons.
Second, just because a gun was in a videogame doesent mean it needs to be pointed out on videos concerning the actual gun.
Makes no sense to me, yet it will continue to happen.
Again and again and again.
2142Unknown 11 months ago
@LOKIUNCIA and naw 2 more words modern warfare 3
peterd1234567890 1 month ago
Hey, there ought to be an update to FsN review considering it has survived since this review and is doing quite well.
wbrock001 1 year ago 2
@wbrock001 FNP9 Update: "Coolness Confirmed" by Nutnfancy
Chriznak 1 year ago
@Chriznak I watched that but nothing about the FsN pistol...just the fnp9 update?
wbrock001 1 year ago
@wbrock001 my bad
Chriznak 1 year ago
i love tom clancy and giving sam fisher this gun
Mdude667 1 year ago
@Mdude667 tom clancy didnt write the scenario for splinter cell dude
LedKenji666 1 year ago
Thanks for nice review.
broadmeadow26871 1 year ago
Rare ammo come doomsday, won't be worth much when you are trying to barter for some water and meat compared to 9mm. Expensive ammo so practice at the range (the only true measure of how deadly and effective a gun is) is harder. Penetrates too much for home defense.
DrJLo08 1 year ago
@DrJLo08 Well, smart people will have enough ammo for doomsday.
I currently have 5k rounds and stocking more.
mimixownzall 1 year ago
OK I'm gettin a bigger bunker...
DrJLo08 1 year ago
@DrJLo08 Thats why food and water is just as important as guns and bullets.
If you need anything when WROL hits, youre screwed, cause its not gonna be possible to get, no matter what it is.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
Have a 5.7 Shot a 25lb propane tank @ 40 yds Pierced it and dented the back, so not totally through. .45, 9mm, & .40s&w only dented the front from 20 yds .223 totally through @ 75 yds
Love my 5.7
03SRT10 1 year ago 23
@03SRT10 the way the 5.7 is made is so that it doesnt over penetrate so it will peirce the armor and stay in the person you are trying to shoot maim/kill that is the purpose of those rounds it actually turns 90 degrees so it doesnt over penetrate. try shooting it at 75 yards and seeing if it will still go through part of the tank i would love to hear the news.
bloodlust52 11 months ago
@03SRT10 and thatwith hp not with the banned fmj
ashisturtwig123 9 months ago
@03SRT10 the cartridge i think was designed to pierce armor which it does pretty well but i have no idea how it does
dog33100 8 months ago
Well, that's forty minutes I'll never get back! nutnfancy you are one massively wordy fellow. In all that time, no stats, no ballistics, no firing. What kind of a review is that? Get the stat/facts, shoot the pistol, THEN give a review and EDIT the darn thing to one vid.
dcxplant 1 year ago
@dcxplant At this point, he wasnt a youtube partner yet, he had to post 10 minute videos.
And if you dont like his style of reviews, hes not for you, go find someone else.
Kylef7735 1 year ago
ruinerfixxer is lying the man already said only way to get armor piercing is if you are law enforcement unless you buy on the black market
BOYWOODU 1 year ago
@BOYWOODU Maybe he is law enforcement dumbass
gentlemanmachine 1 year ago
Thanks for spending so much time reviewing this gun, but $1000 for a polymer gun is no doubt expensive. You can buy 2 glocks at this price, and the ammo is 2x as expensive than the standard 9. In a communist state of america, max is 10 rounds, and it's illegal to get Kevlar penitrating ammo. So there's basically no use getting this gun.
rickylain 1 year ago
@rickylain I have this gun. I have two 20 round clips and a 30 round clip. I have the armor piercing ammo that I bought in bulk at a gun show. $20/box if you buy in bulk as I did. You CAN buy two glocks with the same amount of money, but the 9mm round holds no candle to the 5.7 x 28 round.
ruinerfixxxer 1 year ago
@ruinerfixxxer Good for you. I don't own mercedes or ferraris. But it's certainly nice to look at this gun, the same reason I look at exotic cars. When it comes to putting out the hard earned cash for it, I'll have to pass.
rickylain 1 year ago
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SAR0311 1 year ago
@ruinerfixxxer MAGAZINE NOT A FUCKING CLIP FOR CHRIST'S SAKE
mimixownzall 1 year ago
@mimixownzall Caps off and calm the fuck down. Jesus. I bet you're one of those people who have to correct every little thing if someone's a little off. I think everyone knows what he's talking about. Don't be such a technical douchebag know it all.
gentlemanmachine 1 year ago
@mimixownzall -blond question- duuuh would you read a magaziine?? so imah take a magazing out of a gun and read it??? loool jks
KittyPunter0724 1 year ago
hey guys you get a free light inimpact wiht a buy of a five seven
nightshade288 1 year ago
@nutnfancy Have you considered doing a revisit to the five.seven with some more hands on experience? I would enjoy that very much, as I am sure others would too.
Stein0mite 1 year ago
the only reason hasan didnt hit shit is because he was a fucking POG
marksey182 1 year ago
Car-been, car-byne, and now car-bin!?
FLATblacktical 1 year ago
@FLATblacktical we don't discriminate.
Timisso1337 1 year ago
I LOVE The FN Five seveN
Cutlerylover7 1 year ago
man nutnfancy, I freaking love these reviews !
ff939606 1 year ago
im surprised this went to four parts. it doesnt seem like something that woud have a lot to talk about
fartx211 1 year ago
I'm in love !!!
MrFuriousStylez 1 year ago
Major Nidal Malik Hasan fired over 100 rounds and killed 13 people. This is a 13% kill ratio. I would think if he fired 100 rounds of 45 ACP, 45 Colt, or 44 magum, there would have been even more deaths. I don't think it has the killing power touted. If he had a 45 ACP, I "think" it would have been much worse. It does seems designed to penetrate armor.
frankgon4 1 year ago
@frankgon4 dont you mean traitor,pussy,bitch, and lets not forget terrorist not major he lost all rank and credit
redmule02 1 year ago
@frankgon4 Some other points to consider:
the FN 20 round mags - had he carried a different gun there is a good chance he would have had the same number of mags - but less shots - up to half. Also, the range and accuracy is improved with the FN 5-7 . A long rang 45 ACP would have likely been less accurate - so perhaps he misses more often. I can only guess - but I think he misses more and shoots fewer rounds with some other gun - given the same number of mags.
FreeAgain2 1 year ago
good review,
but its a hideous looking pistol
murdoch2486 1 year ago
So how did Major Nidal Malik Hasan get an FN5.7 before his attack at Fort Hood injuring and killing over 30 U.S. Service Personel? The Five Seven was the subject of a U.S. federal ban in 2005 that failed. A Second Investigation into a U.S. Ban of the Pistol is under review as of Feb 2010 due to further concerns of Law Enforcement Test results in failures of over penetration with FN 5.7x28 SS196 (Non Armor Piercing) failing recent test.
catacombshadows 1 year ago
FN Designed this pistol but the sporting SS197 ammo is now also being manufactured by Federal Cartridge and can still penetrate 13 layers of kevlar, This pistol is about to hit a restricted listing to Military and Gov only, if you got one get ready to bury it.
catacombshadows 1 year ago
The ss190 AP round for 5.7x28 has put the ss109 penetrator 5.56x45mm to shame being capable of defeating 40 layers of kevlar (YES 40), The most controlled round of ammo in the U.S. the FN 5.7 is the current Service pistol for the U.S. Secret Service. This gun was designed Specifically by FN for the Soviets to defeat Body Armor. Research and Realize, Most lethal pistol ever created and it will be banned. Make no mistake this pistol was designed for Mil/Gov and not civilians, USG being U.S. Gov
catacombshadows 1 year ago
@catacombshadows Major Nidal Malik Hasan fired over 100 rounds and killed 13 people. This is a 13% kill ratio. I would think if he fired 100 rounds of 45 ACP, 45 Colt, or 44 magum, there would have been even more deaths. I don't think it has the killing power touted. If he had a 45 ACP, I "think" it would have been much worse.
frankgon4 1 year ago
does anyone think the 5.7x28 will go the way of the dodo bird within 5 years ?
sonick808 1 year ago
It will not
captainvirgilHilts 1 year ago
this would be a good bet for those sites that bet on all the crazy stuff; short term and long term alike. I've got 50 that says it'll be dead in 5. Unless some other manufacturers start chambering major runs for it, I don't think it'll survive on FN's back alone. That said, I still want a Five-Seven.
sonick808 1 year ago
@sonick808
Some have been saying that 5.7mm will be dead in __ years for two and a half decades......
captainvirgilHilts 1 year ago
I meant SS190 in my last comment.
thecombatmaster 2 years ago
You can still buy SS109 AP ammo, its just $4-6 a shot.
thecombatmaster 2 years ago
@thecombatmaster really - that much?
isn't 5.7mm x 28 less than 30 cents normally.
you think its taxed that much or is it made of some crazy hard shit?
8888Duke8888 1 year ago
The SS109 is banned from imporation, and no more will probably come in to the USA ever. It puches straight through armor at 200+ meters. Since its banned now, there is only very little left. Thats why it is $4-6 compared to $.30 for the non armor peircing stuff.
thecombatmaster 1 year ago
@8888Duke8888 people are afraid that their use in crimes would lead to more cop deaths. As most people watching gun videos on youtube, I don't trust the guvmint with anything they don't trust me with.
MrBertGurt 1 year ago
Man this is the most sexy handgun ever. I only pray i am lucky enough to own one some day. You cant go wrong with 20 rounds.
f0rumrr 2 years ago
so what all r the reqiyermints to owning a heand gun ? i think u haf to be 21 rite any thing elts?
NickJak1 2 years ago
@NickJak1 Be able to spell.
supressorgrid 1 year ago
i love that gun so nice looking and aperently prity badass
NickJak1 2 years ago
The 5.7x28mm has the same concept as the 5.56x45mm. Theoretically its suppose to dump all its energy in to the bad guy, fragment and tumble. Giving your devastating stopping power from a bullet that's, I think not much different from the .22mag in length and bullet size, pretty small. Now about the accuracy part should be pretty good considering its a pistol.
wigtrimer 2 years ago
2:23 Bad guy?? :O
asmdann 2 years ago
the "e" at the end of Porsche isn't silent.
Molo9000 2 years ago
what is the price of the gun
kimbo418194 2 years ago
@kimbo418194 3:15
Xanatos712 2 years ago
950-1200 US dollars
UltraXryder 2 years ago
Little over $1000 depending on the version. The fixed sights version is more expensive than adj. sights version.
dtaylorxdm 2 years ago
i'm just a gun geek...I've never actually fired a weapon...but i have to say...this gun is very very cool to me, it has the firepower, the range, the ergonomics,all the cool stuff.
very "second kind of cool" to me
Driftingsiax 2 years ago
Five-seveN® Tactical pistols and SS190 round team up to defeat the enemy in all close combat situations in urban areas, jungle conditions, night missions and any self defense action.
i read this on FNs webpage. "accurat" to 200 meters is good!
Highly Accurate
The flat trajectory of the 5.7 x 28 mm ammunition guarantes a high hit probability up to 200 m.
halla369 2 years ago
I believe this weapon is way ahead of it's time. Don't be surprised to see your local law enforcement carrying these in the next decade. I have really been interested in this piece since it first came out. Very good reviews thank you for the insight.
jmgrant2468 2 years ago
price for piece, the glock has a lot over the 5.7, my uncle used to own both about 2 years ago, and he said however accurate the 5.7 at 200 yards the glock beats it with its equal fit and finish.. your paying double for a gun that is 5% more accurate.
Eritu 2 years ago
@Eritu 200 yards?? you're not really gonna be shooting at someone with a pistol 200 yards away in a self defense situation... Dont listen to what people tell you about a gun because all shooters are different go out and shoot it who knows how you will like it
MizterOrtiz 2 years ago
most all guns are more capable of shooting great distances but it all depends on the shooter.
wigtrimer 2 years ago
maybe price is to high but i think that is beter gun than any glock
gjetodoraci 2 years ago
let me first say this gun is one amazing pistol. however, it is not a good carry gun or home defense gun in my opinion. it has way too much potential for over penetration and hitting unintended targets. secondly, it does not have the stopping power that a personal defense weapon should have. i have seen enemy combatants in Afghanistan shot 5 or 6 times before going down from an m4. similar round except longer. this weapon (technically the round) is intended for defeating body armor.
virus8275 2 years ago
In war they shoot full metal jackets, and I would say that getting shot by a Ballistic tip 5.7 round would be alot worse than getting shot by one with a FMJ in it. Its definately not as good as a .45 for self defense but i still think that it is a very good gun for self defense simply because there is lack of recoil and 20 round mags, My wife loves hers and can shoot it very well.
crowdogr6 2 years ago
@virus8275 I doubt you have been there.
TheBelva85 2 years ago
One thing not mentioned ( I don't think) is that the US Secret Service carries the this gun and the p90 under their arm.
jtodd900 2 years ago
Lightweight bullets at a higher velocity have always had proponents. Slower heavyweight bullets at a slower velocity have always enjoyed a good rep for stopping power. Higher speed projectiles depend on creating a large wound cavity sometimes these occur in places that have little or no effect. Larger projectiles usually do more damage without overpenetration / exit wound. This is one reason the good ol' .45 does just about as well as the .357 in one shot stops without the exit wound of a .357.
TheGunslinger5854 2 years ago
Glock 17 now 590$ and up now
seven47katana 2 years ago
Here in S.C. the price is $950.00. Yea, it was used in the fort hood shooting. This thing is a dream to shoot and the 20 round mag. its a great plinker. The super light weight makes it a great carry piece!
EDB0223 2 years ago
We are already seeing the inane media comments regarding the "cop killer" gun.
Any handgun can fire "cop killer" ie teflon coated bullets, and can defeat body armor.
pbellis100 2 years ago
@pbellis100 teflon coated bullets do nothing but lubricate the barrel. The only reason they were banned was because of a bad public rep like an ak 47 or m 16.
VivaLaDuche 2 years ago
Right now in Michigan, the price is $1,300 at my local Gander Mountain
filo4life11 2 years ago
sorry to bring this up ,
this is supposedly the weapon ,used by the Fort Hood shooter......
heard it on cable network news cast...
gunlover2010 2 years ago
@gunlover2010
How about this scenario, A Glock was used in the VT shooting s, and nobody was calling for police organizations and private citizens to ban them. Cops did not call for than ban of them.
FromyColdeadHands 2 years ago
very true......
the crazed nut pulled the trigger,this alleged firearm can't shoot itself...
not being a racist,but why was i not SURPRISED this shooter was an Arab-Muslim..? in service to the United States Army
who did not want to be sent to Iraq.
gunlover2010 2 years ago
@gunlover2010
Yeah, we have equal opportunity in America and obviously let this individual in the military. He obviously cracked from the pressure of his future tour in Afghanistan. That and the nut made the violent reaction of the shooting.
He obviously had some planning, this gun has a hefty price tag and rare ammo.
This is not the time to call for a ban of the weapon, they keep mentioning how it is armor piercing, thats a lie, it did not have the right ammo. But they were unarmored.
FromyColdeadHands 2 years ago
i heard that he DID want to be deployed to Iraq, but was going to be deployed in Afghanistan instead.
DomingoHMaCoolstein 2 years ago
I don't have an update for stopping power, but I DO have an update for ammo availability and even platforms OTHER than the Five-seveN and P90/PS90 that chamber this round!
I read an article in the February 2010 issue of Combat Handguns (pp. 20-24) about it. (Before you call BS, sometimes magazines come early to Navy bases! =P) There's a company called Elite Ammunition that also loads the 5.7MM. They even have hand-loading supplies! ImpactGuns also has "AR57" upper receivers. Guess what caliber?
Excedrine 2 years ago
Any updates on the stopping power of the Fn five-seven?
sylvainh2o 2 years ago
The cool part about the 5.7x28 round is that it rotates about 90 degrees in a few inches after impact and it will stop after about 8 inches through soft tissue. Also the shock delivered to the target will be around 3-4 times that of a 9mm. So if you hit a bone or hard tissue almost if not all the energy will be transferred.
roydog741 2 years ago 2
Wow that's the kind of answer i like! :) Any sources you know where i can read more about it?
sylvainh2o 2 years ago