Guitar body repair and shielding with coper foil tape.

[KeithWasHere1]

where is a good place to get copper foil shielding tape..ebay is alittle expensive...can you get it buy the roll? (without having to sell a kidney!)...will aluminum foil tape,used on air ducts and air trunk lines in the HVAC industry suffice? (15 dollars a roll at Lowe's) any help is appreciated,thanks.

[HarderThanCalculus]

nice work dude!



[PauloEPedroso]

@HarderThanCalculus Thanks pal.

[badbulletvideo]

Good video.  Thanks. Looks neat and well planned out.

[PauloEPedroso]

@badbulletvideo Thanks, but believe me, I haven´t planed it at all but last minute plans. The result is I completely forgot to record the assembling part. :-)

[videos12344444444]

me diga uma coisa pedroso.... sinceramente... qual a diferenca perceptivel entre uma guitarra nao blindada e um guitarra blindada? (por ex, nessa guitarra q vc deu o trampo.... vc sentiu uma diferenca razoavel na eliminacao de ruido?

[PauloEPedroso]

@videos12344444444 Olá, para saber eu teria que ter montado a guitarra sem a blindagem antes, testar e depois blindar e testar de novo. Como isso daria muito trabalho, não fiz. Blindei pq vi o resultado na guitarra de um amigo e achei o resultado interessante. Captadores passivos são mais sujeitos a interferências e ruídos e os que instalei são um pouco fortes. Por isso blindei logo de cara. Valeu.

[videos12344444444]

@PauloEPedroso hmm... eu tava pensando em fazer na guitarra do meu irmao.... lembro quando ele trouxe a "colméia" dele aqui (o ruído era tão forte, que parecia um enxame de abelhas x)...)... No caso da guitarra dele, eu consegui remover pelo menos uns 60% do ruído, simplesmente dando um aperto no jack (e no positivo q tava frouxo), e nos potenciometros (nao entendi a lógica, mais quando eu dei um aperto nos pots, o ruído diminuiu consideravelmente)...vlw a resposta aew. abraço.

[PauloEPedroso]

@videos12344444444 Então, jack solto pode causar bastante ruído, principalmente quando a parte interna não dá contato 100% do tempo, as vezes só de balançar o cabo, pode dar ruído. Sobre os pots, nunca ouvi falar que aperta-los reduz o ruído, de repente, se forem os originais de fábrica, podem ser de má qualidade e apertando-os pode ter "fechado a caixa", se é que entende. Que marca é a guitarra dele? Abraço.

[videos12344444444]

@PauloEPedroso eh uma golden strat hahahaha x)(modelo exato, deus n me respondeu =-(). Os pots eram assim.... quando a guita chegou aki, eu liguei no amp, e óbviamente, levei um susto!!!.... então comecei a testar ela para ver o que acontecia. Primeira coisa q observei, é que ela tah aterrada  na ponte (quando encosto na corda, ela acalma)... segunda coisa, é que quando eu aterro ela pelo plug do cabo (que é metalico, e tem contato com o anel do jack) ela fica quietinha...

[videos12344444444]

@videos12344444444 ... e quando eu seguro na corda, no cabo e empurro o botao do pot com um pouco de força... a guitarra simplesmente "amanteiga"... fica super clean... Então chacoalhei os pots e o jack, e reparei que estavam soltos (provavelmente, "apertado" na mão)... então pensei:" vou apertar isso"... tirei a tampa dos pots, dei uma forçadinha no positivo do jack para dar mais pressão, e apertei o jack com uma chave de boca... liguei pra testar, e o chiado diminuiu um pouco...

[videos12344444444]

@videos12344444444 ..então desliguei, tirei os botões dos pots, e dei um aperto nos mesmos, que também estavam frouxos... pra minha surpresa, quando eu liguei, o chiado praticamente sumiu!!..claro que ainda chia quando usa os singles com distorção no máximo e volume no meio (e treble no máximo), mais quando coloca o amp no médio, ela fica quetinha!!eu nem acreditei..por isso estou motivado para forrar a caixa com aluminio, sinto que vou ter uma melhora. por isso perguntei . abraço.

[videos12344444444]

podia ter falado em portugues e colocado legenda neh x)... mais um otimo tuto cara, otimo trabalho.

[PauloEPedroso]

@videos12344444444 Olá, não faço nada em português. Inglês todo mundo entende. Abraço.

[journeyquest1]

Fletchers memorial , one of my favorite solos of Gilmoure. Right on man. I have a Jaguar and a Strat i am working on.

[PauloEPedroso]

@journeyquest1 Hi, this one is my ring tone too! Send me some pics of your guitar when its ready! Thanks for watching.

[takusamadotcom]

Why do you connect copper foil with solder, if copper foil is conductive??

I think it is a must only for alluminium foil... or I'm wrong??

Nice video anyway!!

[PauloEPedroso]

@takusamadotcom Hi, I didn't notice it was a conductive cooper foil. Anyway, I believe I would have put some soldering on it because this is not the kind of job you want to do twice. :-) Thanks

[takusamadotcom]

@PauloEPedroso ehehe surely I believe it... and maybe I'll do the same ;) Again thanks!

[HudCouto]

ei Paulo! legal seu trabalho de blindagem!

Onde vc conseguiu a folha de cobre? Já procurei em todas as lojas de elétrica/eletrônica de brasília e não achei ;P

abraços

[PauloEPedroso]

@HudCouto Oi cara, desculpa a demora mas o YouTube não me avisou da sua mensagem. Eu mandei importar, acho que esse tipo de material não vende aqui. Eu tenho um rolo ainda, se tiver interessado, posso ver o valor pra vc. Abraço.

[buckethead30001]

can i do this but with every day aluminum? kitchen aluminum?

[PauloEPedroso]

@buckethead30001 Hi, sorry taking a bit long to answer. I've heard about people using this kind of material to shield a guitar but I would never try it. It should be not easy to glue it on the wood and it's not meant for that but for cooking turkey :-)

Try buying a few meters on eBay, you won't regret it.

[hombrebuen]

hi! nice vid :) it helped me with some things...

may i ask?

what is the name of the cement you applied on the hole?

i wish i have those kinds of pick ups :( huhuhu....

im using a generic guitar with generic pick-up and my guitar sounds really bad... and really noisy.. although the shielding helped put out some noise still its noisy... buzzy buzzy buzz buzz... :(

[PauloEPedroso]

@hombrebuen Hello. I don't know how to name the cement in english, it's some kind of finishing cream for wood. Alike the ones used on brick walls before painting.

About your pups, while they're buzzing, turn yourself in several directions relative to your amp. Like in front of it, then start turning until he's on your side. Try several positions. If the buzz goes back and forth I believe it's the pups. Otherwise it might be a bad cable.

[hombrebuen]

@PauloEPedroso

oh.. :) thanks a lot, i'll try to look for one of those on the store :) and ill use it with the scratches and some holes on my guitar :(

and about my pups yepyep im doing that sometimes... and when i get the right position i can't move anymore because a single move would make the noise back again.. :)\

well if only i could buy a good pup... but i dont really have the money.... and pups are soooo expensive specially here in the philippines..

[hombrebuen]

and is there any way wherein i can rewire my pup so that the sound will be better?

[PauloEPedroso]

@hombrebuen Well, you can always rewire the pups, I have never done that and I don't know how to do it. All I know it's not an easy task and you can ruin them or make them worse. There's a little science behind it and I really don't know anything about it. My advice is, save some money and order new pups on eBay, it worths the hassle.

[rockexpert]

@hombrebuen Try out some Seymor Duncan and be sure to check out the triple shoot

[hallobaaaby]

Very nice informative vid--thanks friend! I'm also on strat type--by Vintage-brand (before the nowaday's reissued models). Makes very nice sounds! One curiosity is that on some positions the potentiometers would be very active on the first quarter of the active zone...

[PauloEPedroso]

@hallobaaaby Hello, I'm sorry taking this long to answer. And yes, the potentiometers have this nice feature. Thanks to that Gilmour was able to make that seagull sound using a wah pedal connected backwards and moving only one potentiomenter.

[EddieBsB]

Great video Mr. Paulo Pedroso ! =)

[AlphaQGoode]

Also at 4:30, thanks.

[PauloEPedroso]

@AlphaQGoode By the way your video helped learning more about this stuff before putting the hands on my guitar, thank you. :-)

[AlphaQGoode]

Hi,

What's the name of the song that kicks in around 3:06?

[PauloEPedroso]

@AlphaQGoode Hi, the first one is The Fletcher Memorial Home from The Final Cut album. The second one is called Marooned from The Division Bell album. Both from Pink Floyd.

[AlphaQGoode]

@PauloEPedroso thanks for that, nice video too it gave me some good ideas for what I want to do with my strat. Appreciated, thumbs up.

[hafstrat]

I neve saw a US strat with that kind of body routing before.

[PauloEPedroso]

My luthier said it's rare but authentic.

[northlander30]

@hafstrat Fender is doing this a lot now with the routing. It is called the swimming pool route. It is so the buyer can customize with humbuckers later on.

[StevenDeedle]

Hey there, my guitar its got a hb in the bridge and the neck, it's a peavey predator plus exp - do you know how much it would cost for the music shop to shield a guitar? it is right to say that if a guitar is shielded that nothing will interfere with it weather it has single coil or humbuckers? Hope you can answer my question :) btw your video was really cool and you seem to know what you're doing, very professional :)

[PauloEPedroso]

Hi, I don't know how much it would cost. I don't know much about electronics and I can't tell weather it will reduce or kill interference, all I know is the single coils get more silent than before. I researched a lot on how to shield it, spoke with some friends and learned a lot on the fly. Thanks.

[shortbusheros4]

i don't understand what the soldering on the shielding is for

[PauloEPedroso]

@shortbusheros4 Hello. The soldering is to ensure the overlaping foil tapes are really connected. Some models has conductive adhesive, thus they don't need soldering as both sides of the foil are conductive. No matter how you do it, you have to ensure the whole cavity is connected. Did that answer your question? Thanks for watching, Paulo.

[TerdVader]

It seems like half the videos that make reference to Gilmour, and Pink Floyd are from Brazil. It's cool to know that people in that country have great musical taste and passion.

[stratman7000]

I don't think that you need to use solder on that copper shield... That guitar was already shielded with paint... I guess you could never be to sure...=)

[PauloEPedroso]

@stratman7000 Hi, I don't think one would do a cosmetic paint the inner cavity of a guitar, but the thing is, regardless of the conductive paint, the shield was not established. There was a hole in the body to house the 9v battery (I don't understand too much of electronics but I read the shield should be totally closed), there was no electric communication between the cavity and pickguard and the pickups were not ground wired to the body.

[Maanel]

só é pena não ter uma guitarra para conseguir acompanha-lo como gostaria visto que tenho uma Fender Classic Player 50's Strat

[Maanel]

mas o david gilmour é do melhor que há!

[PauloEPedroso]

David Gilmour é realmente o melhor.

[fredericiscool]

How exactly did you screw the wire into the guitar body?

Do I need to do this?

Thanks. :)

[PauloEPedroso]

Yes, you do need to do this once the ground wire should be in touch with the shielding. I soldered a metal ring in the wire and then I screwed it within the wood (wood screw). Just put the screw and twist it until it starts to move down the wood.

[Maanel]

ok eu estava a espera que fosse de portugal para assim me poder ia dizer onde poderia comprar a tal fita de cobre autocolante. mas obrigado muito gentil

[Maanel]

sorry were are you from?

[PauloEPedroso]

I'm from Brazil