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  • This is very strange. Normally, US examiners are happy to grant patent for things that are already published. Bad luck old fruit.

  • @IlRezzonico While I understand you are trying to be a sarcastic anal retentive troll, your assertion is actually correct. While studying gasification patents I have found mutliple patents concerning catalysation that are vertually the same. The persons who own those patents must have been like you, low on brains with a lot of money to blow. That is what the corporate patent Nazis like. Even Obama and the US Congress are learning that. SMCADB.

  • This guy obviously didn't understand how claims are examined and should have retained a patent attorney.

  • This is why you need a patent attorney or patent agent. A good one would have pointed out what must be a mountain of prior art which makes your bike at best obvious and more likely not novel (i.e. all of the features are present in a single reference.) Electric powered bikes are very old and a quick search on google patents will find many many examples of every feature you mention.

  • The US government then classified his patent and this prevented him from developing his device. The US Patent Office has unfairly classified 4000 energy patents. Their helpless inventors will be jailed for 20 years if they work on, develop, make, sell, write about, or even simply talk about their inventions. (wwwDOTrenseDOTcom/general72/o­inventDOThtm)

  • @res8898 - the patent office has no control over which applications are classified.

  • are you kidding. It's just another jew ripoff. Einstein was placed at the patent office. 2 years after a french and a dutch psychicists published the theory of relativity. E=mc2, Einstein copied it and published it, mind you, 2 full years later and then the jew media, won't mention them, even though the scientific world knew Einstein to be a con. A talmudic jew. Research it. Jews aren't smarter they are crooks. Their holy book the talmud preaches it is their duty to cheat the goyim.

  • running into the same problem right now. The examiner has failed where a 5 year old could figure it out. I have never dealt with such a money making scheme in my life. The lawyers and the USPTO are making out like bandits. Lawyer said this was a very simple patent, and would only run me 3,100 to file, circling it many times. Well, after over 5,000 the patent was submitted and then denied which ran me another 750.00 to only be denied again via office action, another 2,000. This is extorsion

  • @isaac19delta why not handle it yourself then? Much cheaper than using a lawyer or patent attorney!

  • Invention is something that is both new and useful/reasonable.

    "Mid-drive" described in Japan patent uses the same transmission as rider's muscles, so they work in sync. Electric motors work efficiently in wider RPM range than ICE, so no extra variable transmission is needed.

    For case of no pedaling at all, just add another freewheel instead.

    May be you should educate self in engineering first, before wasting your life fighting "ZioNazis."

    Learn Optibike or Kalkhoff designs, for example.

  • @currishev I was going to actually debate you and challenge you but then I went to your channel for a visit and found out you are the actual real life inventor of the panty-waist. I am now awed by your intelligence and inventiveness and am totally certain you are correct in everything you say from your bar stool Sir.

  • so tell us why exactly you need a patent? that is not protection from anything. Look at what happened to Tesla. Just do your own thing, don't worry about profit, you'll be crushed anyways if you try to make it.

  • @freqazoidiak Well if you want to mass produce something, you need investors and I thought investors like patents, they do. That is why the patent bitch gave my patent to sieko epson. They are corporate Nazis and the US is run by the greediest war monger sadistic ZioNazis on the planet. Did you know that a certain sect of Jews made a deal (Havaara) with Hitler and helped finance him? The spawn that run the US behind the scenes are Satans Beast! Walk Like an Egyptian!

  • If you spent lees time trying to protect your "invention" and working on another idea you would be wise.

    Even if you were granted a Patent, you would most likely loose it on first appeal, and you would be flat broke.

    Patents are only to enrich attorneys.

    Only about 25% of all patents make it past the second appeal.

    No patent attorney will disclose that to you.

    That is where the fraud is!!!

  • @cmfluteguy yes..that's right :D these people have been crimnals since the inception. That was the point.

  • @cmfluteguy Yes that is what I am doing. The Energy Bootlegger. It is almost done. If you are an inventor instead of buying a patent buy a gun :)

  • Friend, I fave practiced patent law for 23 years. I have reviewed your patent application. The drawings are fine, and much of the technical disclosure is fine. However, the "claims" section is utter nonsense. I think the USPTO was generous to even attempt to examine it. I'm sorry to sound harsh, but you need to know the truth. This is what happens when people attempt their own patent applications - a possibly allowable patent fails due to poor patent drafting.

  • If you think you got screwed, look up Antonio Meucci.

    --- italianhistorical(dot)org/page­42.html

    Seriously.

    BTW, Isn't there an appeals process you can pursue?

  • Maybe someone has already mentioned this but have you heard of General Patent Corporation? They apparently protect the little guy at no cost.

  • The situation you got yourself in is unfortunate. You will get no help from any of the 3 letter agencies as they are all controlled by the same people that control the patent office. The patent office is a gate keeper operation. Make more sense now? Your only true option is to produce and sell your invention privately or give the plans away for the benefit of all or both. Watch AmericalFreedomToFascism for the heads up.

  • I invented a breakthrough source of energy thet violates the law of conservation of energy. I have a proof that there are phenomena that violate the law of conservation of energy. I am looking for $6M for a prototype and patents.

    H. Tomasz Grzybowski

    tel. +48-512-933-540

  • @henrykay01

    ask for official sponsorships if you are serious about this although I am 100% sure that you didn't invent anything that violates nature's laws.. people are smart, not giving you money for nothing you dumbass!

  • Sorry to break it to you but a guy I knew had pretty much the exact same thing you have here on his bike and he bought it at a bike shop and installed it...over ten years ago. This isn't new.

  • Don't give up!! I'm afraid you've taken the PTO's rejection too personally. Your invention surely has merit. The application was simply not submitted in a format that the Office can examine. The Written Description just needs to be cleaned up and you need to submit a proper set of claims. Without them, the Office simply can't give you a meaningful response.

  • Sorry to hear about your experience. Your invention surely has merit. And the Offices

  • Wow, live and learn. The amount of anger...

    I doubt getting rid of whomever you are referring to would be a good thing. I would prefer the current establishment ahead of persons like you, full of hatred and bile.

    I think it's sad that you're so full of hatred.

  • Do you have a court case yet?

  • No I have no $ here in the US where they put 'in god we trust' on money. If you can't find your place in the pecking order of hierocracy you are dead in this excuse of a nation, the same people in power here now supported Hitler and sold the poison gas to Saddam. And yes that does have a great deal to do with why I can't do the good works for mankind I want to. If I wanted to make money I'd have to design a version of the electric horse with bombs on it or something? Thx for kind comment PL&H K

  • ...but the system is too professionalised for non-professionals to just go and be successful on their own. It's possible, but difficult. Professionals like myself have a couple of advantages, obviously. A major one is that we know the case law so we know the difference between good and bad arguments and how to respond to the USPTO. Your claims could have been improved tremendously by professional counsel.

    Please get help next time. It's worth it.

    Good luck in the future! I hope it works out!

  • Hi Sean: Thnx for your comment, sincerely. Check, 11/647104, still listed if you go to USPTO Public Pair. When you compare my multi-gear ratio transmission inside the vacancy of the frame, batteries being also inside that area & not on the back end, designed for the bevel gear to fit onto standard bike equipment la di da...mine differs, my utility prototype works. I will build them & NZ USPTO of Amerika can take a flying F%#*K They are lairs, US not built upon lies. USPTO illegitimate liars

  • Then look at the only claim in 11/647104. If you know anything about the patent rules, you would see the problem. It is not with the patent office. The imperfect system - maybe. But most likely the problem in 11/647104 was the applicant.

    He who knows and knows he knows is a wise man; follow him. He who knows not and knows he knows not is a student; teach him. He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool; shun him.

  • No problem. I understand your frustration. In my opinion they should have found the document that I cited. I didn't go into detail and I wouldn't begin to give my professional opinion except say that there are some similarities. For sure the document cited by the USPTO is not nearly as relevant. Looking at your application, I think a professional would have had a lot to work with to defend your application. I know it's not the what you want to hear...(continues above)

  • Have a look at US 5,487,442.

  • Other people do know how to deal with the patent office, but you chose a frankly arrogant "anti-establishment" approach. How can you possible be surprised that the establishment did not like your argument?

  • Then what is your version of what the patent office should do in cases like yours? i.e. if a person makes something work better (e.g. your lighter more powerful moped and only discloses the old ingredients without ever taking the time to understand his own invention and disclosing "why" certain combinations work better) then the patent office should complete it for him and just give him a patent for the asking? Then the alpha dogs would have even more power over you.

  • Yes. Miyazawa disclosed a gear box for simultaneous human and electric power - Not your invention. A patent examiner need not use only the claims in another prior art. The examiner can use just some words or sentences which are prior disclosed to anticipate your invention. To sugggest that she was "paid" off by some rich corporation is pure speculation and even a bit of dangerous "crazy" conspiracy theory. The system may be slanted to the alpha dogs, but that examiner did her job.

  • The "practice" of rewriting your claims for you would not help this application. Your only claim written by you was nothing but an argument. The Examiner then cannot help you decide what your invention is. Is it a "moped"? Done Before. Is it a variable gear ratio transmission? Done Before. Is it direct friction (on tire) drive force. Done Before ... battery powered motorbicycle drive train? Done before, Miyazawa and others.

  • I am with you on the anthropormorphic dude not existing. And I am also with you on the "Cause" I am just befuddled how a smart guy can lack the humility to admit he is wrong once in while. You took no time what-so-ever to try and "really" learn about patents. Your application is nothing but argument. You chose the "anti-establishment" approach from the beginning in your patent prosecution. You failed to realize that patenting, by definition, is about the establishment - monopoly power.

  • Nope, she clearly wrote "disclosed" by Miyazawa and that is a lie. I revised by claims once and then twice but she already had a final rejection in the works on the basis of a lie. If my claims were not understandable how could they have been disclosed by someone else? To the contrary she was able to understand my claims exactly and attribute them to a million$ billion$ corporation. Here are two laws you should be aware of as a god of the patent and legal world:

  • "A claim is anticipated only if each and every element as set forth in the claim is found, either expressly or inherently described, in a single prior art reference." Verdegaal Bros. v. Union Oil Co. of California, 814 F.2d 628, 631, 2 USPQ2d 1051, 1053 (Fed. Cir. 1987).

  • MPEP 707.07(j)When Claims Are Allowable [R-5]700 Examination of Applications: 707.07(j) State When Claims Are Allowable[R-5]INVENTOR FILED APPLICATIONS:When, during the examination of a pro se application it becomes apparent to the examiner that there is patentable subject matter disclosed in the application, the examiner should draft one or more claims for the applicant and indicate in his or her action that such claims would be allowed if incorporated in the application by amendment.

  • This practice will expedite prosecution and offer a service to individual inventors not represented by a registered patent attorney or agent. Although this practice may be desirable and is permissible in any case deemed appropriate by the examiner, it will be expected to be applied in all cases where it is apparent that the applicant is unfamiliar with the proper preparation and prosecution of patent applications.

  • By the way Bro' I don't believe in god, Jesus said a lot of good things about being a good Samaritan and treating others as you wish to be treated. My higher power is nature. If you choose to believe in an anthropomorphic dude god and it makes you happy that is your prerogative. Please consider that what we do while we are alive are the only things we leave behind. After life is what lives after we are gone.

  • The Health well-being and longevity of our species matters and maybe someday our species will go past the speed of light or discover the unified field that always was and always will be. Alpha dogs in the image of god, lord, master lead the way to extinction. Collective cooperative effort for the good of all make the best path toward any possible eternal connection.

  • Wisco Kiddd,

    Your are not the God of the Universe who gets to make up the patent rules and then complain when the Examiner doesn't follow your rules. Your invention could be patentable if you would simply follow what is being told to you. Three criteria to take note of when drafting your claims are that they should clear, complete, and supported. Every claim must be one sentence, as long or as short a sentence as required to be complete.

  • No 2003 application found, but a 2006 application was published in 2008. The only claim is 1732 words, two paragraphs, 60 or sentences. The Patent rules state that a claim needs to be ONE (1) complete sentence. I am not "cursing" sort, but my only comment to your claim language is "WTF". Look at the IFW (file wrapper) in PAIR. Your claim was unclear and ambiguous. Examiner added possible patentable subject matter would be anticipated by Miyazawa.

  • Dude - While you clearly know a bit about motorized bicycles you apparently don't know jack about patents. You show in your video a comparison of the drawings...so what. The drawings are merely illustration of embodiments of the invention. How about posting your "Claims". That is how patents are defined. To quote Bugs Bunny...."What a maroon!"

  • The problem with Youtube and Americka is so many people love to criticize others without ever trying, doing or even investigating things themselves. My patent and revisions are available at USPTO Public Pair. So if I'm a moron, what does that make you?

  • EXACTLY! Please reread what you wrote You criticize the examiner (accuse him publicly of being a criminal) without investigating that perhaps you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to patents. Your reaction is publicly accuse...because YOU couldn't possibly be wrong could you. Go read a patent book or hire a patent attorney and learn something. And yes I did read your amended claims, they are as crappy as the first set. Spend some money & do it right and quit being so whiny.

  • Rejections by the USPTO happen all the time; I hate to say that you'll get absolutely nowhere by reporting it as a crime. The examiner is just doing his/her job. Look careful at how you can interpret your claims and make sure that they cannot be used to describe the previously disclosed invention. You need to distinguish your invention from the Japanese document, perhaps by putting in the claims that the bike may be powered while the pedals do not receive leg force.

  • Thnx yb: 1. I think the following code section is in response to the American Inventors Protection act: MPEP 707.07(j).

    2. "A claim is anticipated only if each and every element as set forth in the claim is found, either expressly or inherently described, in a single prior art reference." Verdegaal Bros. v. Union Oil Co. of California, 814 F.2d 628, 631, 2 USPQ2d 1051, 1053 (Fed. Cir. 1987). Go to USPTO Public Pair and enter 11/647104 if you are interested. I filed FBI complaint.

  • You need to check out the section on 'obviousness' as well; that is another common form of rejection by examiners. Amend your document... don't bother with the FBI or arguing with the examiner unless you make changes to the patent application as filed.

  • The question is, would one of ordinary skill in the art, think of using an electric motor indepenent of the pedals?

    Well, why dont you just appeal the Examiner's decision?

  • Why didn't they build one then? Why are over 20 patents granted with variations on the pedal motor configuation yet I can't get a patent? You are simplifying my design to one question. Beside that the examiner said the other patent "disclosed" things it did not and that is an outright straight up bold face lie and a crime. I don't have another $400 right now because greedy Nazi Capitalist corporate pathological reptiles rule the planet. Are you a Lawyer or what?

  • Having a patent and actually building something are two different things. Not every piece of technology out there has a patent behind it.

  • The tranny will have to be custom made and I need investors who would want to protect their invertment with patent rights. Thanks for your interest. PL&H Ken

  • Hey Ken,

    We just watched this. It's your best yet. Tell us who to contact.

    Dan & Margaret

  • your bike looks to be original ! the other 1 is fake ! go back to the pat office and try again only this time take your video camera ! most likely you will get your patent ? also great bike ! i would buy 1

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