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  • LOOK AT THOSE CRACKERS, GUDDANNMMM .. KILLERS

  • where di you find this video?

  • hi rpagliari - on YT somewhere - it's thomas edison film footage

  • Wait..... IS THAT A CAR!?!?!? well I wouldn't be surprised if its in London. Y'all over there

    Actually sit down and think. I wish we can do that.

  • hi Addiskrilla - i bet on a big screen we'd find a lot of surprising things in this footage - i love the old signs - like Lipton's Tea

  • is it CCTV ?

  • @moradkos - London, so maybe BBC?

  • This is the time to ask for thumbs up if you are watching this in 2012.

  • hi TCfoxs - yep, thumbs up all round.

  • Before WWI and WWII.

  • hi TCfoxs - yes, soooo long ago

  • Ive already taken part on this thread this year, but must say what a pleasure it is to take part in a discussion on this site without having to put up with foul mouthed rantings, racism and all the other rubbish that seems to pervade this site.

  • hi chanctonbury63 - much f the pleasure of having a channel is the chat that follows an upload - i learn so much from people and hope to share a little. with this in mind i delete any offensive remarks, racist, sexist and generally discriminatory - as well as the few obscene comments from those who like to do that. on a cherry note, i hope to be in touch again. best from sydney, nick

  • My Great Aunt told me a story of her father going to work on the horse and cart.

    Every day he would pull up outside a bakers and buy a bun for the horse.

    One day he was late and said to the horse keep going I am late.

    The horse stopped outside the bakers and would not move until he got his bun.

    My aunt lived to 93 years and I have given one of her letters to a museum in the USA.

    I'ts storys like this that people need to put down before they get forgotten.

  • hi Catherineone - it's amazing how many stories come out of peoples' watching this footage - wonderful stories! thanks for sharing. cheers

  • Lipton Tea and Nestle Milk were already there! :D

  • hi SamKashimoto - yes, amazing life some products have - and i bet there were a whole lot more that began back then and are still with us today

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  • Claire de Lune by Debussy is a wonderful soundtrack to this video, both historically and dramatically!

  • hi wks1978 - thanks - it just seemed to fit the kind of reflective mood i felt the first time i saw the footage. cheers

  • 2:45 nice traffic jam

  • hi davidvh - yes, it's the beginning of the end - LOL! cheers

  • I love it at 3:57 when out pops...a horseless carriage! The only one I can see on this reel.

  • hi oldcremona - hard to imagine a carl-ess society and not so very long ago!

  • My favorite opera star of history, Jessie Bond, was alive and well though retired when this was filmed. Many people shown undoubtably saw her perform. I find that deeply moving.

  • hi oldcremona - yes, an amazing thought - and she lived on to be nearly 90 in 1942 - there's a lovely photo of her on Wikipedia, cheers

  • I'm a lecturer in Media at Wolverhampton University in the UK. Regards, Steve Arnott

  • Dear Nick, where did you find the footage? I'd like to use part of it in a project I'm working on. Best wishes, Steve

  • hi steve - honestly i don't remember where it originally comes from - i found it on you tube - it will be out of copyright and, as copyright cannot be taken up by a third party when its first term is run, it's in a sense open source now, so a lawyer friend tells me - his speciality is intellectual property. if i can helpin any way, just contact me again, best, nick

  • Hello Nick,

    this is great, and totally enhanced by the music, I have always loved it, but embarrassed to say Iv forgotten what its called and composer. Would You or anyone else mind enlightening Me please?

    Thank You,

    Paul.

  • hi paul, the music seems to fits a reflective reading of the footage - hope not too rose coloured spectacles! it's Claude Debussy's 'Claire de lune' - i think i over use it with my videos! good to hear from you. best

  • @nickwallacesmith Hello Nick,

    Thank You, sorry, I thought I should get an alert of Your answer

    but didnt, and not been on here for a while, so only just seen it.

    Best wishes,

    Paul.

  • hi realpawl - YT is not sending email alerts to me any more either - not sure whther this is a temporary thing or YT streamlining itself. cheers

  • Luxurious hats! EVERYONE HAD HATS!!

  • hi Gzero91 - and BIG hats!

  • It's amazing such chaotic traffic in those days. I wonder how coaches didn't collide or pedestrians didn't get run over. Such a crowd in a very tiny room. Public transportation running nonstop one after the other. It's amazing, it's even worse than nowadays and there is much more people now than then.

    This video really has an historic interest. For us it's a window to watch the past.

  • hi olarcial - this piece of film is for me endlessly fascinating - i always see new things in it. and yes i was surprised how chaotic the traffic was back then - i imagined a more leisurely less polluted age - did you notice how chocked the air is at certain points? cheers

  • Some things haven't changed- Kodak, Nestles, Lipton...

  • hi 44032 - yes i saw all the signs - amazing some companies just go on and on - when i worked in the strand it was with a compnay (allied services) who had lipton's tea as a subsidiary - and i had to clear out a basement archive of old documents - one was a will of 1667 - still had it's seals attached - i was told i could keep what i liked and throw the rest - i still have some of these old documents - they wouldn't be thrown these days!

  • Just think, all those busy streets, so full of people who are no longer with us, the streets just teeming with people who are gone now.........

  • hi fairiegirlga - yes, it's so strange to think they've all passed on - as have all the vehicles and many of the buildings

  • @nickwallacesmith Hi nickwallacesmith, yes, I agree, but I do so love watching old, early movies and looking at old photos from that era, I alwyas hvae felt that I lived during that time.......previous lif maybe......

  • hi fairiegirlga - i love looking at old photos and movies - for me it's like time travel - i can almost feel myself in the bustling streets filled with dust (many roads weren't sealed). i uploaded some film of paris at the same time - did you see it?

  • @nickwallacesmith Yes I did, I love all of your movies, please do more !!! Especially any vintage wedding movies. Thank you sir so much !

  • hi fairiegirlga - i love putting this old film up on you tube so no thanks are necessary! BTW, i guess you saw the wedding i posted 'Lord Baden Powell Attends A Wedding" - it's so intimate and you get a real sense of the nervousness of the guests - it's like being there, cheers

  • @nickwallacesmith Hi Nick ( is that your first name ), I do plan on seeing it as well and I just subscribed to your channel ! Please check out my stuff when you have a minute, My husband is from France and we were in Europe in '09, plan on going back very soon, I see that you are a "Aussie", we both want to vist there as well, we are going to a concert tomorrow night to se Sia ! Just love her ! Cheers to you as well !!!

  • hi fairiegirlga - my back ground is french and i've spent a fair bit of time in france - enjoy your trip back - and you might like australia for a change of pace some time in the future. best, nick

  • @fairiegirlga It was "the present" to them. The past is a series of presents. The present is living history we are priviledged to witness. Watching old films, I try to imagine muslef in them or that they are some distant memory of my own. Those people were "us" at one time. And someday people will look at us and wonder what it was like back then.

  • anyone else see the car drive past at 4:00 ? Must have been someone rich!

  • hi HeinzizBaKeD - yep, cars then were only for the rich - like the way it beatles through the traffic

  • I'm an Upstairs/Downstairs fan and the first episodes take place in 1903. Beautiful rendition of "Clair De Lune" as well. Thanks.

  • hi 44032 - i'm Upstairs/Downstairs fan too - i see 'Rose' about still in movies - 'claire de lune' seems to create the right atmosphere for the footage - glad you like the performance - it's maria koalszki, cheers

  • @nickwallacesmith There's another post on U-Tube with the same footage, (a sharper image), that uses a more jazzy musical theme to emphasize the busyness of the London streets. I prefer your "dreamier" post. But it's interesting to compare them- two different ways of looking at it. The other is labeled "Old London Street Scenes (1903)"

  • hi 44032 - yes, it's been put up on you tube quite a lot - with a whole range of different kinds of music - i like the one you mentioned with the jazzy music. i used to work in the Strand, near the Wren church, St Mary-Le-Strand - it's amazing to see how much has not changed .... and how much has!

  • @nickwallacesmith The jazzy one has a better copy of the images. It give it a "you are there" feel. Yours is dreamier, like a distant memory. Both are wonderful in their own way.

  • hi 44032 - i agree - i guess reflecting different intentions - i was in a reflective mood, and i suspect i had some rosy coloured specs on too! so the erik satie seemed perfect. but i love the more upbeat 'you're there now!' music! cheers, nick

  • hi 44032 again! i actually added debessy's 'claire de lune' here, not the satie. and yes the other footage is much clearer - i came across it well after i'd uploaded mine - must do a better version for here. cheers, nick

  • @nickwallacesmith Actually I prefer the "dreamy" look of yours for Clair de Lune. The sharp one works better for the jazzy piece.

  • hi 44032 - yes, i know what you mean - the blurriness is a bit like looking through misty rose-coloured spectacles into the distant past and 'claire de lune' goes with this look of the footage! cheers

  • wow looks like alot of traffic lol

  • @solgirl3 - the first traffic jam! LOL

  • damn so many white people....

  • hi ingravegreen - i'm looking forward to uploading more of edison's london footage - there's a lot about - i've already put quite a lot his paris film of 1900 - have you seen it? glad you're enjoying what i've added so far! and yes how simple or hard depending on your position on the socio-economic scale - we have a few more chances these days if not born with chances

  • London was much smaller then. My Great Great Aunt lived in South Kensington around 1900. She said that if she walked West down Old Brompton Rd for 15 minutes she would be amongst farms and fields! Now youve got pass Heathrow to see anything that vaguely resembles a field. She died in 1966. Amazing woman, she met Prime Ministers and Queen Victoria. She was still betting on the horses the day before she died. Born in 1868!!!

  • hi chanctonbury63 - i used to live in knightsbridge as a kid - just down the road from south ken - and often wondered what it was like 100 years before. amazing that that walk got you to farms! amazing the people your aunt met - the big movers and shavers! makes you feel in touch with these historical figures

  • @nickwallacesmith Hi nick, I knew her for the first 6 years of my life. Trouble is that at that age you tend to live only in the moment. Its not until later that you really begin to take in the context of where you are in the scheme of things.

  • hi chanctonbury63 - i was lucky as a kid cos i met some well-known people and was aware how lucky i was doing so - i remember thinking i must remember all the interactions i had with each one - so it didn't just pass in a rush on to other childish things - we've both been lucky!

  • @chanctonbury63 Your Great Great Aunt sounds like she was an amazing lady. Every time I see footage like this I wish I could jump into the scene and live there for a day ... appropriately attired of course!

  • What amazes me is how chaotic traffic was back then. Pedestrians just walk haphazardly across the streets like nobody's business, no traffic lights or cops in sight!

  • hi Marzipancat - yep, pretty chaotic - i guess it was all at a slower speed so (not too many) deaths? certainly the protocols for getting about in cars hadn't been developed - was there a desginated side of the road then for traffic going in each direction?

  • 2:41 whoever is the heir to liptons teas right now must be like yaaaa back in the day advertising!

  • @chicseeker - yeah, be great to be the heir ... and the sole heir even better!

  • I would take my kids back to when my husband and I were their age so they could see how well we got along without ytv, videogames and mp3's

  • hi tarantula9200 - tangentially, i was lucky enough to get the chance to ride a pennyfarthing bike as a kid - some real challenge - once you got going it was very difficult to stop

  • 2:27 NESTLES MILK...HAHA

  • hi a31128 - yep, and i've spotted a number of other well-known brands - like lipton's tea

  • SUCK MA WHANG EDISON!!!!!!!!!!

  • At 4:00 you can see one of th3e first combustion engine vehicles driving by to the right. Pretty cool. This was during the time when horses were still in high demand and the combustion engine industry was just taking it's first steps.

  • hi vulkein - one section of another film of london at the same time shows the thick pollution produced way back then - together with all the emissions from industry, the city used to have 'pea soupers' in winter when the air was totally chocked up and hard to see through

  • HOLY CRAP AND LIPTON TEA TOO!!!!

  • hi vulkein - did know about lipton's tea - worked as a late teenager in london with allied services who owned lipton's tea among other companies - they had a section with all the old papers from the old companies they controlled - i remember seeing a will of 1667 of one of lipton's employees

  • HOLY DRAP!!!! one of those trucks was an old Nestley milk truck o_O

  • hey vulkein - me too - didn't realise Nestles was a way back then product

  • hmm all those people...all deceased.

  • What would I give for just one day? Dawn till dusk. To go back in time and wander those streets and take it all in, in period clothes so as not to draw attention to myself.

  • @chanctonbury63 - i have this wish often! even a few hours would be ok - a day of course would be better - i'd love going into shops and taking to people, have a meal somewhere, go to the theatre and see a famous actor ... .

  • @nickwallacesmith Id go and spy on my ancestors!

  • @chanctonbury63 - now that's a thought! see your grandmother as a girl ... or a baby

  • @nickwallacesmith I know where most of them lived too. I wonder how long it would take to get to Sussex or Yorkshire? More than a day I fancy.

  • hi nickwallacesmith - maybe longer, if you were not near the station you'd need to wait for a carriage to rumble slowly along dirt roads - worth it though!

  • @nickwallacesmith Its alaways worth keeping an eye out in these old films because on occasion people do spot one of their forebears. Im one of them. Discovery Channel did a 2 part series on the battle of the Somme. In one of them, clear as daylight, there is about 5 secs of my Grandpa hurrying his infantry along. All my family agree its him. He looks right into the camera from around 10 feet.

  • @chanctonbury63 - amazing - but perhaps not so strange to have seen your grandfather - i see footage of Lyon where my ancestors come from and see people crossing the street and going into shops - and i wonder if i'm seeing a great parent or great uncle or aunt

  • @chanctonbury63 y'know, just like in the past where photographs then audio and finally footage was invented and used to record history; Im sure the future will hold an even greater, more accurate, inventions that further records our history. Perhaps virtual simulations that are recorded from ones experiences in his or her lifetime. the videogames and simulations most young people play are the first steps toward that reality of actually being able to re-live a different life including past ones.

  • Wow. So many people.... one wonders what became of each. Sure, there are all dead and gone, but as they skipped through the frames of this video, they each went on to do amny things, live, love, laugh, cry and die and yet... we can see them alive and strong here. Awesome video and thank you for it. .... I wonder where all of the horses were kept and I noticed that they were already using the wrong side of the street :)

  • hi LMSTactical - i've had the same thoughts myself about all those lives you momentarily see in this film - and wonder what how they lived their lives and happened to them - are their descendants wandering around the same streets - it's like time travelling, even if on the wrong side of the street (LOL) - glad you liked it!

  • @nickwallacesmith Do you ever look at a photo and think that waaaaaaaay beyond the person that was the intended subject..... far far far away.... a thousand miles behind them... in the photo.. everything was captured in time at the moment the shutter clicked? we can't see it but if we could zoooooom in for an unlimmeted time, think of all of the lives and things that we could see. Lives that were captured in time at the moment a photo was taken. Life is strange hahaha. Stay safe my friend

  • hey LMSTactical - yep, i often like to look beyond the intended subject at the things accidentally caught in a photo too - keep safe too!

  • @LMSTactical I like your comment. I think about things like this all of the time. Really fascinating.

  • @LMSTactical Actually there is firm evidence in the South of England that the Romans drove on the left too!!

  • @chanctonbury63 Good point and an interesting one at that! :) Thanks .

  • @LMSTactical Theres a quarry in Somerset (I think) that was used in Roman times and archaeologists have found the old access road that is on a slope. The ruts on the left side are much deeper than those on the right (as you leave the quarry) which suggests that the loaded carts went on the left and the lighter empty ones to the right.

  • @chanctonbury63 Very interesting and cool information :) Thanks for that my friend. I love those kind of investigative facts.

  • looks like a different world....^^ so wonderful

  • hi KiwieCake - yes, and so lucky to have it recorded so we can in a sense time travel back to 1900 - in paris and london and other places too

  • Thank You, Nick.

  • hi denise196445 - you're welcome

  • video, okay. but the language of TheParanormalpunk is uncalled for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • hi denise196445 - yep, not sure why TheParanormalpunk is so upset - as though someone made some bad comment about the video and is defending it, good to hear from you, nick

  • video, okay. but the language of TheParanormalpunk is uncalled for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • who ever dislikes this video FUCK YOU!!! YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE!!

  • grazie!

  • @lemoire23 - no problem!

  • very thoughtfully put together - especially the music

  • hi spacemanGoldie - thanks - the music just seemed to fit perfectly - at least my mood when i was putting it together!

  • Nick,

    Not had a chance to look through your site just yet, but you can browse many of the Huntley film archives online for free, but go to there website instead of there youtube presence.

    Have you seen the firework museum Im creating?,....just look at my youtube page URL (wells at amberley).

  • hi whu58 - having trouble doing anything but see the titles they are holding - maybe this is what they allow - they then offer purchase - which is good too

    haven't seen your firework museum yet - off to check it now!

  • Thanks Nick,

    I finally found the title & composer after I commented, and no its not too self- indulgent on your part,.... I love the victorian/edwardian era - which fits nicely with my interest in Londons social history.

    Have you looked at the Huntley film archive pages?,...in there vaults somewhere, they have some old footage of my ancestors business that I hope they will show some day on youtube.

  • hi whu58 - i guess if you've looked around my site here you'll see im interested in social history - read george trevelyan's 'English Social History: A Survey of Six Centuries from Chaucer to Queen Victoria (1944)' as a kid and have been hooked on histories of the less than largest events - only as they effect things at a social or domestic level. thanks for the pointer to the Huntley film archive - do you need to join or can you just peruse the archive as an outsider? i'll look at the site now!

  • Hi nickwallacesmith,

    great footage,

    Please can you tell me what this piece of music is? and who by?

  • hi whu58 - the music is debussy's 'claire de lune' - it seems to fit the footage exactly - well, for me! it's beautiful, isn't it - maybe a bit too self-indulgently nostalgic on my part!

  • This is a breath of fresh air from the past, I love watching these old clips its the closest to going back in time. Great post thanks for making me smile..

  • hi mcyclecollector - not sure exactly what it is but i can't seem to get enough of old footage like this - it's the time travel thing mainly i think 

  • omg quite busy back then!

  • @Scrabbler27 - and smoggy!

  • wonderful footage of the past and ace music to foot that time of the centry

  • hi maasplodge - there is parallel footage taken by edison of paris - equally interesting - and i've added Dmitri Shostakovich's 'Romance' (from The Gadfly)

  • Great window into another time.

  • hi NorthStar20121 - isn't it! and the one by edison on paris is the same

  • yeah they r all stiffs

  • theyre all dead :(

  • hi LowleyUK - and if there're not dead they'll be in the Guiness book of records

  • @nickwallacesmith hahaha yeh!, nice video by the way, the music complements the footage very well, thanks for uploading!

  • hi LowleyUK - yeah it's great footage - and thanks about the music - i like the piece a lot and always looking for an opportunity to use it! i did a similar one on Paris at the same time - did you see it?

  • Look at all the people walking in and around the carriages and wagons. No traffic lights or cops/ laws telling them they must be "safe".

  • hi MrCombat1965 - yep, i looks safe - the pollution seems pretty severe though in some other footage i have of london round that time - the pea-soupers were still happening - where the air is thick with smoke and fog. but i'd still love to time travel back for, say, a week or two!

  • Awesome film.

    All that dirt flying up from the road. Now I know why people always carried hankerchiefs. What must have it been like during the rain with all those open carraiges and muddy roads. Incredible time!!!

    Thank you so much for sharing!!

  • hi larkatmic - yep different standards od a bygone era - i love this footage and glad you do too - i've posted one on paris at the same time which i like even more. best, nick

  • It was almost suicidal crossing the roads near Bank Station. I 'm amazed how people managed to avoid accidents and collisions

  • hi ginecologist - thanks for the background information - much appreciated. best, nick

  • Great film. There was no pollution in those days; the only fumes came out of the horse's backside There was horseshit everywhere, THOSE WERE THE GOOD OLD DAYS!!!!!!

  • @ginecologist There was plenty of pollution in those days. London being in a big bowl frequently suffered inversions with smogs so bad you could hardly see your hand in front of you. My Mother recounts an occasion (in the mid 60`s!!!) when she had to walk in front of the car my Father was driving to guide him home. These smogs killed hundreds of thousands. It came from coal burning. Also at this time the River Thames was a cess pit. It sometimes caught fire!

  • hi chanctonbury63 - i remember these being called 'pea soupers' - with pollution on the rise everywhere it's nice there has been some pulling back of smog in the air since the 60s - but i guess we need to still be careful of carbon emissions and the devastating effects that could reek on the planet, cheers

  • @ginecologist Hi, Check out `Killer Fog` Part 1 and 2 on here for example.

  • amazing to see how thick "traffic" was in London back then.. also notice they drive on the left side of the road, even back then! I always thought that rule/custom did not start untill the 20's or so.

  • hi sheppytim - and we think that city pollution is bad now but seems even worse back then - a real surprise to me - not that it's god in either case

  • Claire du lune (sp) By Debussy? Beautiful!

  • hi kennethj1956

    yes, the calm gentle reflective quality seems

    to be right for at least my mood when i watch

    this footage, good to hear from you, best, nick

  • Now I know where the word Horsepower came from! on another thought, imagine a red Lamborghini showing up there in the middle of the street and screaming it's engine like a wild cat! what would they think of it?

  • they'd think aliens from outer space!

  • I wish I had a time machine so bad. It would be cool to go back in time to see how people lived.

  • hey switchfoot

    so do i - sadly this is the closest we get - it seems almost as though we're back in the past (to me) with these bits of old film

    best, nick

  • cool video

  • like time travel!

  • hey ioet

    yeah, i look at it again and again!

  • fantastic!

  • hey Jetmech01

    yep, the footage really seems to put youy back into 1900 - i look at people just going about their ordinary business and captured quite incidentally - this is what brings it up close and personal for me. cheers

  • Truly amazing footage. Makes you wonder what it was like to live back then. Thanks.

  • hi Talulah1997

    glad you liked it - loved putting it together

    best

    nick

  • Thanks for sharing this fantastic footage.... :-)

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