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  • i love it... idra takes 80% of the map but who cares the 3 base prot just walks over lol

  • I miss when I could play this style, 4 different unit types all on one hotkey...no wait, that shit was BOOOOOORING

  • "Plays an unpredictable style with many different possible strategies" LOL 

  • if idra had made more hydralisks to deal with those void rays he coulda won. though he shouldnt have suicided those corruptors into that void ray fleet.

  • People dont get this game, " aaaww Protos is OP, Terran is OP ! "

    I played all 3 races, They all have Benefits' It's about putting yourself in the position to use these benefits, Playing Protos as my main race' i found it very hard to get 2 base, or to win off 1base' vs Zerg. And losing mid-late game to a Mass Eco Zerg.

    But when i played Zerg, i found Terran to be OP' untill i started knowing how it were done, IN THE END; It comes down to the player himself.

  • @mukkohaha how the fuck is it hard 2 get 2 base ffe or 1gate expand ez, hard 2 win off 1 base double stargate ez, lose to mid -late game vs eco zerg maybe try and get a third base once ur main is mined out, zergs benefits are far overshadowed by its weaknessses

  • @mukkohaha protoss: 2 gate zealot rush into 4 gate warp rush, cannon rush, hidden void ray tech, hidden dark templar, etc... terran: 5 barracks rush, 1 1 1 hellion, banshee rush, bunker rush, scv+2 barracks rush into mules, etc... zerg: 6 pool, 7 pool, 8 pool, 10 pool, roach rush(never works against prot cause of sentries and againt terran b/c all their units outrange roaches against a walll in... yep its reallly balanced cause terran can never be punished and prot units are just OP

  • @chaosrave Are you full retarded ? the simple fact That Zerg appears in all tournament and wins some even, What does that tell you ?

    If 2 Races were simply better, No one at the Pro level would play the " weakest " Race. It's about bringing food on the table for these people and your a Full Retard, From your Noob perspective and Lame Gaming skills and Low intelligence it appears to you that Zerg is under powered i understand that sure..

  • @mukkohaha im not a zerg player im a protoss player lol... im not stupid or id play zerg because they suck so much and so easy to cheese... even in macro games... and i cant talk for the pros because they live and breath starcraft... i am a normal gamer.. besides people like idra always complain about zerg sucking but the reason they wont change races is because they already spent hundreds of hours practicing that race and switching now would be worse... dumbass lol

  • @chaosrave Zerg requires more skill, we both agree about that, But zerg is a special race, in the right hands it's unbeatable. Terrans and Prots, looks very much like the same player up in grand master.

    But Zerg is kinda Scaling with the skills of the player. I always thought of Zerg as a " Special " joker race, That required a lot of creativity. But as i have seen again and again,  In the Right hands, Zerg is not Under powered ;) their are better ppl then idra.

  • @chaosrave i understand the game in fact, and i see your point, Somehow Zerg would be the nomination for the least OP race, but in the right hands Zerg Will win a whole tournament, i agree Zerg Takes alot of skill tho.

    Not a race to start out with ;) Sorry for my rude behavior i have a mental problem.

  • @mukkohaha i guess i kind of agree on that fact... well w/e blizzard is pretty good at balancing, hopefully as HOTS and legacy of the void come out by the end everything will be almost perfectly balanced

  • let's spoiler it: Cruncher wins

  • Idra's a wiener...

  • I want a ringtone that when i get a text it shouts 'IDRA RAGE'

    

  • lol day9 just "MHMM'd" too close to the mic

  • Holy 1-sided commentary batman

  • every match i try to find of Idra here he loses, what gives man?

  • @ataraxia60

    people mostly upload ones where he loses (even though he wins WAY more than loses) because they don't like him.

  • @CarboKill lol your stupid they upload were he loses cause he doesn't put out replay packs so when someone beats him they want to be like yes i beat him and upload

  • @iBeFamouZzZ

    Wow, you fucking nerd. It wasn't necessary to call me stupid, especially when I'm not. Hang yourself you retarded piece of fat basement dwelling shit who will never have a relationship. Fucking loser.

  • @CarboKill maried with 2 children bruh

  • @CarboKill ez

  • Idra is such a baby.

  • Cruncher crush

  • no gg wtf that shit was dope

  • ZvP was way to imbalanced in 1.2

    idra had 80% of the map the entire game, protoss was like 2,5 base the entire game but still won.

    I didnt think idra didnt any huge mistakes.

  • @peAkkkTF2 Yeah Idra didn't throw out all of his corrupters in the middle of the game when he threw 'em at the void rays and he didn't make 200 supply of corrupters at the final battle of the game instead of making a large ground force.

  • RESEARCH FORCEFIELDS< ICANT STRESS THAT ENOUGH!!

  • @pistoljunky you serious? that would result in toss getting screwed by terran early pressure with 3 rax

  • Why does no one ever use the corrupter 20% damage ability?

  • lol wtf, he made like 80 drones

  • @Repanocho thats good

  • @samusaran13372 ye, but that may be the cause he lost

  • @Repanocho Nope

  • @samusaran13372 :(

    nice answer

  • @Repanocho I can tell you that having 80 drones is good macro. Good macro = how you win.

  • @samusaran13372 but he lost :O

  • @Repanocho cuz he got 20 corruptors vs void rays

  • gsl is higher stage to compete star2 each other

  • IdrA 2:0'ed MC. That means

    Cruncher > IdrA > MC

  • @ppshchik You an idiot

  • @ppshchik U saw Revanche between IdrA and MC ... MC won BO7 4:0 ... So MC will beat everyone !

  • @SoleMoZz lol... ye

  • Gotta love the commentators swinging from Idra's nuts for several minutes at the start of the game.

  • he lost cause this game was played like a day before the infestor buff.

  • IDRA RAGE........Great player, but he really needs to grow up.

  • Idra could have won, but he did so many bad descions

  • @khanhogamir: As is often the case when a person loses a game.

  • 14:41 proof that zerg players have zero micro skill. 1 pylon powering 6 cannons, and is completely ignored.. fuck this game for all its imbalances, zerg are OP, despite 2 basing cruncher lost this game, and only won because of rage quiting.. not only that, but the retard could have made broodlords.. w/e tho, just proves how retarded zerg players are.

  • @ODOMAN123 ....Combat Ex ? ... Is that you !?

  • @Te4RHyP3 nope.. but i guess he agrees with me..

  • @ODOMAN123 broodlords would not have helped Idra - blink stalkers + voids would have creamed them. he needed the corrupters to take the voids down fast as they were the units he was having trouble with and at the point in time getting the attack upgrade was the better decision, although the best decision was probably applying more early pressure and trying to reduce the void count to avoid that situation to begin with.

  • @ODOMAN123 Cry

  • @hasimirfenring1 suck my cock troll.

  • @ODOMAN123

    Dear Rock,

    Your op, but paper is ok.

    Signed, scissors.

    See? Its only op when you don't like it. So instead of crying like a little bitch for everyone to see and then getting all offended when someone calls you on it, why don't you go play something a little more appropriate for you, like solitaire. If the game is SO imbalanced, then stop playing and stop bitching.

  • @hasimirfenring1 shhh suck my cock troll. you went through a list of comments and found one a MONTH OLD and decided to troll.. shhh get back suckin cock... nobody needs to listen to you on how to deal with 50 dollars wasted.... if you think the game is balanced after a year's release, then you truly are a cock suckin ignorant little cunt... it took blizzard 4 years to balance the original.. stupid cock suckin troll.

  • @ODOMAN123 u mad bro?

  • no wow that was pretty ridiculous if u look at the statistics idra really shouldve won that. tbh if that was me i wouldve raged

  • Anyone know the song?

  • hahaha what a fucking loser

  • why doesnt idra ever attack from two sides ? Every game i see idra play he just gets a big ass ball and keeps attacking from one direction he doesn't bounce left and right or push to attack minerals :/

    Idra expanded too much and droned up too high to make a difference

  • Idra is good, but no excuses here, he was outplayed this game by protoss.

  • AND THERE IS THE NO GG!

  • BLIZZARD, HOW DO YOU FU CKING COUNTER THIS? THERE IS

    NO REASON TO GG BECAUSE YOU CANT COUNTER THIS ARMY!!!

  • @MsMiker1 how do you counter that? dont let him get that in the first place.

  • @MsMiker1 i mean, if you LET protoss get that many vr, there isnt much you can do.

  • @MsMiker1 fungal growth the voids... get ultras to take care of the stalkers and collosus

  • idra was at 200/200 like forever this game, but I felt, as he mustve felt, that it simply wasnt enough against that toss ball, which became quite evident in the end.

  • there the no gg....

  • 6:04

    PFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTT

  • @blahuga

    It almost sounds like Day9 saying "mmhmm" in agreements to DJWheat. Possibly while finishing a drink of something

  • @ShinsoShikai hey when is the next TSL? i hate these fucking korean fags that make u pay to watch old tournaments and sometimes even live tournaments

  • IdrA is a sack of shit. LOL

  • did the commentator fart down mic at like 6:05 ?

  • 6:04 someone farted?

  • lawl noob rays

  • maybe im wrong but shouldn't idra have built tons of macro hatches in order to replace lost units faster?

  • honestly idra needs to learn some manors, he complains every game he loses when he should have gone tech switches. then on games when he gets lucky he just brags about how amazing he is. needs to learn some respect.

  • well if this isnt op, nothing is

  • wow, the co-commentator really loves idra. bit biased?

  • @mvoulgaropoulos you have no right to call day9 or DJwheat biased becasue idra deseves it

  • @Thomasstarcraft a bit too much tho. mind you i have to admit im biased the other way due to his comments sometimes

  • use void rais for dmg absorb while stalkers and colosai happyli eating whole zerg army... briliant

    nice game, thanks CrunCher :)

  • LOL!!! chruncher just totally played idra like a fool at the end when idra attacked chruncher for the final attack

  • "strong personality" under Idra, atleast it doesn't say "strong mannered"

  • People commenting saying that Zerg can beat the Protoss deathball simply by going mass unit X plus mass unit Y aren't helping the issue. SC2 is quite a bit more complex than that, and unit "counters" don't even exist as people imagine them. There's other factors to consider, like micro, upgrades, push timings, etc.

    Protoss is SUPPOSED to have huge, powerful units. That's their thing. As Zerg one must be creative and reactive. Watch Spanishiwa, he stomps over 'toss all the time, it's awesome.

  • @Klanktastic Spanishiwas mass queen build only works vs early aggression. it kills every 4gate for sure. but lategame protoss is something different. go listen to the last state of the game podcast. they discuss this very game. idra, day9, tyler etc.

  • The Zerg is a reactive race ya'all, the protoss is the most srongest race, BUT has many many counters, and the terrans have the mobile army i.e medivacs. Who ever said that hydras need 150hps are fuking idiots that can't play for sheit. Sure the game is imbalanced but not to the point where you can't play the game. The #1 reason why most people lose to protoss is because they don't scout (hurrr durrrr). Also, heres a fact Blizzard took 15 years to balance SC1, and they'll do it to SC2 as well.

  • idra might be good and can beat alot of people, but his still a jerk. total nob. bad sportsmanship

  • @ArchiMasterMovie yes you are noob.

  • yes you are.

  • idra just dont know how to play with 200supply toss.

    the solution will be mass baneling drop,roaches,mass corrupters,plus mass whatever to counter remain units.

  • its hilarious how mondragon doesn't even play and he's already better than idra

  • Oh god i jumped at 14:08, that was loud as hell

  • Geez... Sounds like Day9 is commentating with Jerry Springer

  • What a noob. He could've just contaminated the void rays with his corrupters. If he'd have done that, than the void rays would've been no match for the corrupters.

  • Thumbs up for Day[9] ^-^

  • Teir 1 units vs teir 3 plus upgrades plus he didnt saterate all his bases idra's a moron who gets a bunch of bases then tosses everything at the front door with no strategy ever only reason he can compete with pro level gamers is it works same with using cheap combos in mortal kombat

  • @maurer1737 Idra didn't use any tier 1 units. he had tier 1.5-2 with upgrades vs the protoss's 0-0-0 upgrades. Corrupters are supposed to counter colossus, but what counters void ray if he has colossus? Can't really stop a protoss deathball when its done...

  • i woudent gg to that shit. Protos is not skill at all only stay on 2-3 base create a deathball and win. Fucking shit race

  • @FinalWords has far more units than the other races it's incredibly hard to do anything else. Take siege tanks for example, they have 13 range, you set them up and don't have to touch them, they shoot anything in range. Rine/rauder, most cost effective units in the game and the easiest units to micro Ever. +FKN STIM!! Put them up against a race like z where you have an overwhelming amount of units and have to compete against an OP T. Good luck finding the APM to harass anything even as a top pro

  • @FinalWords yes, but when one of the world's best/fastest players doesn't have time to harass his opponent you have a problem. That's the problem with zerg, they're a much different race than any other traditional RTS race, which are usually much more like T (queue up units, then go attack.) Zerg mechanics are completely differen't, they race requires far more APM and really just skill to play. With SC2 you're not limited to the number of units you can control at once so as zerg, the race that

  • I find it frustrating how idrA is at hmm...7 bases. and Cruncher is at 3 bases and hes able to completely own idrA with this overpowered deathball. Seriously protoss 200/2000 is overpowered and idrA owns all the trash talking assholes here.

  • escudo your right..UNBALANCED!!! zerg is weak... idra is a lot better than this guy... gg

  • @thejusticar9 Yeah, I know. That's what I was saying. Oh the irony of calling me a "stupid cunt" when you have the reading comprehension skills of a 6 year old. Have fun dying a virgin you pathetic sack of shit ;)

  • pv makes me want to kill myself

  • Yea Toss needs a nerf or Zerg needs a buff seriously... Maybe give Hydras 150hp itll be good help

  • @AsianStyled

    No retard.

    The way to fix the imba protoss is to give colossus a different upgrade bay.

    Like Vehicle weapons for Terran.

    IDIOT.

    Colossuses MELT ALL GROUND UNITS.

    Void rays + stalker rape CORRUPTERS.

  • @Romansteel13 QQ start me on youtube go start me

  • @Romansteel13 This game is designed on a countering system. Every unit has a feasible counter that will work if used properly. Idra wiped the floor with Huk in MLG Dallas. Wouldn't an imbalance of your description mean that Idra should lose every time to a pro toss player like Huk? Because I can guarantee that winning as Zerg doesn't come down to whether or not the Toss player fucks up.

  • @Skope111

    Sir, i'll try to be as pleasant as possible.

    I've played both Huk and IdrA.

    Huk has a worst case of BM than IdrA.

    Huk is also far less skilled, he hovers around 100-150 APM, while IdrA fluctuates around 200-250.

    "If Huk didn't play Toss, he wouldn't beat anyone."

    - IdrA.

    Good day. 

  • @Romansteel13 Fair enough... (I don't play Toss anyway, I just like to find the best in every game.)

    But.... when and where did Idra say that because thats fucking gold.

  • @Skope111

    MLG dallas april 3rd interview its on youtube.

  • @AsianStyled you are so right.. zerg is just up.. but the weird thing about sc2 is that everyone plays the race which he holds for the weakest

  • @EscudoGER zerg is least played race, except in bronze league iirc

  • They should increase the mas supply count for zerg to 250-300!

  • im sick of this kind of pvz. it's a shame that zerg can win only if its opponent is a lower skilled player. :S :(

    (pun mi je kurac ovakvog sranja od pvz-a)

  • One of the problems is that there's no units that are cost efficient (including supply) vs void rays aside from queen, which are too slow and too weak vs ground units.

  • When idra says GLHF he means Good luck in losing and have fun If I win. lol

  • @TiMe4FiGhT lol who doenst mean that?

  • i think idra is ♥ = )

  • @Hammerzeiterr Could you beat him? No you couldn't GG

  • Wow, I was about to complement Idra on his creep spread, but then his roach hydra corrupter got MOLLYWHOPPED... and I was like eehhhh..

    Conclusion: NEED MORE SPANISHIWA.

  • Idra's so good but I don't see why he has to rage sometimes.

  • Lol colossi/void ray is hard amirite? zerg literally has no answer to that combo, Cruncher working off far fewer bases and lower econ, can turtle up completely safely and win anyway.

  • Get off Idra's nuts Day9!

  • camera operator isnt the best. Day9 is explaining Crunch's walloff while we get to watch drones mine without anything happening.

  • it's funny cuz idra would completely own everyone who's trash talking him in the comments here.

  • @HaileyTV91 Its funny for the commentors though cause Idra is a douchebag

  • @HaileyTV91 yup... indeed but idra is a fucking beast and macro zerg vs toss is just a real pain in the ass to win...

  • @HaileyTV91 Please (in a shitfaced sarcastic way). He hasnt won anything in the longest time. Im sure i could beat him.

  • @tumortim666 lmao... the dude does nothing but play starcraft, he's won almost every major tournament, and he's lived and trained in korea for like 2 or 3 years. if you played 100 games against him I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't win a single one (no shitfaced sarcasm here)... could you be more of a jealous hater rofl

  • @HaileyTV91 I know that no-names like me beat him ALL THE TIME. its what gave Cruncher his jump-start and made him popular. Im pretty sure i wouldnt win the majority, but I would definitely get around even. He is slipping.

  • @tumortim666 gosh i really hope you aren't being serious... oh dear

  • @HaileyTV91 he loses in real life though

  • @HaileyTV91 idras a skinny ass little twig, who would get completely owned by me if he ever talked the same shit to me that he does online. so ill gladly call his dumb little baby ass a fag any day.

  • @bukk3t a shit talking homophobic internet tough guy. how cute.

  • @HaileyTV91 Him being able to own people still doesn't rule out him being an arogant ass.

  • @HaileyTV91 Still a bitch tho. Besides I'll just cave his face in if he beats me.

  • @HaileyTV91 Its funny cuz that doesnt matter and he still got shit on

  • @HaileyTV91 probably not. they'd just hallucinate some void rays and he'd leave

  • @HaileyTV91 its funny how everyone could completely own him in irl

  • @HaileyTV91 So..? It doens't explain why he's a fucking douche. Also you can't ensure everyone here is below his skill level. What if Cruncher, or any other good player, makes a comment? Idiot.

  • @HaileyTV91 well it seems like in truth he owns you and keeps you in his ass

    he's a good player, but displays terrible attitude and sportmanship all the time. ofc he would beat everyone here in a game which is his life, and probably most people would own him in other parts of life where he's seriously lacking. nothing really justifies his behavior and btw his achievements aren't so special either in the sc2 scene, he's not like a bonjwa or something who can pull off shit like this

  • @HaileyTV91 @HaileyTV91 Of course he would. He has no life. He plays SC2 12 hours a day. If I played 12 hours a day I would be that good too.

  • hahah idra is a little bitch but im not gonna lie, this was pretty stupid, idra fuckign controlled the entire map and he rocked, was kinda painfull to watch

  • watching idra getting raped makes me feel warm inside

  • @kalab00kas dont thumbs up u ruining the game for us idiots.

  • @MrScrapy360 dont read the comments first idiot

  • @MrScrapy360 i wasnt reffering to u, i was talking to the idiots that voted up. But hey u ware 1 lol

  • LOL !!!

  • bad zerg is bad

  • @cfisette halarious idra rage is halarious!

  • You know what else Idra brings to the table?

    The attitude and maturity of a 4 year old.

  • Don't you just love it when IdrA loses?

  • mass corruptors, zero corruptions. fail zerg need to keep failing

  • all zerg need is a hydra buff, it would fix so much stuff.

    they are just obsolete atm

  • Did Idra ever GGd a lose?

  • @fecmasterrocker yes in gsl

  • I think Idra must rearrange his thoughts, It's true toss is very strong and void rays are hard to stop, but if he didnt quite attacked early on and waited for cruncher to max out and tried to counter void rays with corrupters?? Sorry but then just get a few infestors or something

  • How do you counter that death ball?

  • @TheGreatestAjax infestor, brute lords

  • @TheGreatestAjax infestors!

  • Obviously Idra rage quitted again, he didn't say a thing lol/

  • Heh, alot of things would make the difference... Like not 1aing your army into the same choke over and over... Realizing there is such a thing as focus fire... Or infestors...

  • Its kinda funny you must not allow protoss to get 200/200 that is okay, but zerg having 75% of the map and still loose that is okay LMAO. Balance where are you ? oh out the window.

  • Infestors would make the difference, I think...

  • Guys can you help me 'thumbs down' the spoilers at the top please?