Chris Matthews: The Surge Is Working

[tomitstube]

Sounds like Vietnam. The neo-con warhawks keep getting their way, and we just keep getting deeper into a "failed strategy".

I am so sick of David Brooks.

[Annie22203]

how will we know if we've won?

[danboyd12]

Annie22203:

The fact you have to ask that is a testament to the failure of the american publics lack of ability to think.

[djbro16]

to won you must at some point win. To have failed you must first fail. We win for as long as Iraq is stable and growing as a free nation as it is now. There will always be challenges, unless of course you choose to fail, which would make you a failure.. then you will have no challenge. Terror prefers no challenge on your part, they prefer failure on your part. Being speculative as you are about victory, defining it in an impenetrable way is what terrorist love.

[cobwebhead]

Sure most people agree that violence is down. What they forget to mention is that:

a) we're no closer to "winning Iraq" (whatever it might mean this month) or

b) by staying in Iraq we are creating terrorists, not defeating global terrorism, or

c) we can't afford the $ or the soliders.

I believe those have been Obama's points all along.  It's odd they don't mention it.

[djbro16]

War is not black and white

A)War is not a game, you dont win-lose-tie, you achieve victory after victory.. This war is not Coats versus rebels, its complex, if you keep expecting something else you are insane

B)That's absurd, so you say by not surrendering to terror, we perpetuate it,.. no actually surrendering to terror perpetuates it.

C)The military branch accounts for 25% of the US budget, we can easily afford that especially when the money is paying to our men and women.

Obama has no points.

[saully1966]

This latest flack about Obama should send a message to progressives...STOP GIVING REPUBLICANS AMMUNITION TO UNDERMINE THE CANDIDATE WE NEED TO WIN!!!!!!! Focus people! The MSM is retarded and EXTREMELY BIASED TOWARDS MCCAIN! We are fighting the wrong enemy!

[hippieCy08]

pretty much Robguy66.....little fact worth ignoring when it comes to mainstream media. The dumper and clueless Americans are, unless the gutless Dems enlighten them.....the more likely such a lie is sold to the public.

after all, 80% of Americans believed Iraq had something to do with 9-11 before the invasion, thanx to the media!

[Robguy66]

Of course the surge is working. We're paying billions of dollars to warring factions to not shoot at us. How long do you think we'll keep throwing billions?

[deanrdd]

If enough people vote for McCain, we will find out.

[Nutrino2179]

Whatever the outcome in Iraq, there is no outcome that will vindicate the immoral and criminal actions of George W Bush that got us into this war, or his heinous policy of regime change and spreading democracy militarily. I'm sensing the press is starting to make the case that a 'victory' is vindication, and that's a very dangerous premise.

BTW: Our generals were asking for more troops for at least three years before John McCain invented The Surge - you can check that out on Al Gore's Internet.

[likes2p]

WOW! How ignorant.

[derpified]

IT HASN'T SUCCEEDED, assholes.

[Wendy62]

The press: McCain's base.

Count on Matthews to say what makes his candidate look good :P

[deanrdd]

Article (2):1st — Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation:

(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.

Article (3): Iraq is part of the Islamic world and its Arab people are part of the Arab nation.

Directly from the Iraq consitution. This is what McCain wants Americans to die to protect. The Iraq ruling party is called the "Supreme Islamic Council". Yea John, looks like we won. Bless you. You idiot.

[Wendy62]

Yeh. As long as we keep lots and lots of troops there, we can have our own pet Islamic theocracy.

[lamouchemorte]

I am glad we have the media to think for us. Anybody who follows their lead is a moron and deserves to be bankrupt.

[driubi]

mccain also wanted to bomb north korea - of course he wanted more troops in iraq, he wants more troops everywhere

[masterhook]

The Surge Is not working. The thing is that people think that its about the violence is the only thing that the surge was to stop, no. it was to set up a time for the government to set up more stuff and get things on track so we can get out of there sooner. That part is not working. they have not done anything big to fix things and the longer we are there the more of are men get killed and the real war is left with out the men it needs to win it.

[Wendy62]

Well said!

[PussycatGoGo]

I give up on Mathews. He doesn't even believe African Americans are "regular" Americans. The guy is a walking gafe.