The West Wing - You wanna be the guy the guy counts on

[grumpytosnowwhite]

Now that's a heavy Josh/Leo comparision if I ever saw one. And hey, didn't Bartlet also say that Sam was going to run for president one day? I think I know what's going to happen a few years down the road...:) Bartlet would be proud.

[thelonedissenter]

@grumpytosnowwhite was elected twice - and in this day and age, you don't get elected without having the traits of a traitor. In Season 5, towards the end, there's a flashback when President-Elect Bartlet points to Leo and says "You should be the one, Leo, not me". Two episodes later, he shows Leo the finger, indirectly, of course.

At least, for me, the writers showed that dark side of Bartlet with very subtle hints, and I loved it.

[grumpytosnowwhite]

@thelonedissenter Dude, what the hell? Season five was a festival of shitting all over the characters. Bartlet being elected and still being a good guy was intentionally the exception, not the rule. What kind of a miserable misanthrope are you "you don't get elected without having the traits of a traitor"? Do you think it's "cool" or "edgy" or something to think that way? Sorry bud — it's just immature and makes you look like a teenager who thinks he/she is relevant and hardcore.

[jimbopumbapigsticks]

@grumpytosnowwhite

I totally agree. There was no character development after season four because they stopped being the same characters. Writers couldn't understand how characters that sharp and funny could exist without dumping on each other constantly.

[chrissline77]

All my friends know the low rider, the low rider is a little higher. The low rider drives a little slower, low rider is a real good goer

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how

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this is hows it should be