N1 soviet moon rocket / N1-7L Launch

[IASOU2005]

N1 looked so awful., as I'd it was designed to kill

[stellaruniversexmpls]

theres was no shit on space stations they made Salyut-1 to Salyut-7

and Mir space station.

[fensterchunster]

Star Trek is real !

[BigRIJoe]

That dead soyuz crew wuz not dead. they wuz bois who liked hairy men giving them mouth 2 mouth. aight! peace out

[spacegeek5]

I wish it worked after we went to the moon

[SkyyCaptainn]

The first stage of N1 is the most powerful rocket stage ever made and likely to hold this record for decades to come, it had 40 - 50 % more liftoff thrust that SaturnV. Too bad it always failed.

[bombarderoazul]

The russians have done some cool things in space, i read somewhere that they are only country that has orbited heavy satellites powered by nuclear reactors in space. This is actually important for deep space travel, because solar panels cause drag and slow the spacecraft over time, and because the farther away you go in space the less sunlight there is. So nuclear reactors in space must be used, and only the russians have done so.

[plavins1]

@bombarderoazul

Got to love russian space achivements, but voyager and voyager 2 also used nuclear reactors to power their equipment...

[bombarderoazul]

@plavins1 I don't think voyagers one and two had nuclear reactors, but they were rather powered by a plutonium isotope. It was more of a battery that produces power by the radioactive decay of the plutonium. The Cassini probe currently around Saturn, also uses this same technology. I did a little research and the russians launched two satellites powered by nuclear reactors. Cosmos 1818 and cosmos 1867. They were launched in the mid eighties and are still in orbit around earth. but are abandoned.

[plavins1]

@bombarderoazul

oh really? i though voyagers used nuclear reactors thanx. always learn something new on youtube!:D:D

[matatan69]

@Goodcapcay Too late, he is already dead and helped the USA to beat the soviets. however Korolyov was killed by the CIA. ha,ha,ha

[matatan69]

@Goodcapcay , If von Braun was caught by the soviets and he helped you all the way to the moon then you wouldn't be so sad, lucky enough the Americans took him to NASA to make your lives sour ever after! ha,ha,ha.

[Suyamu]

@matatan69

So you've got von Braun and Soviet Union still built the best rockets...

I'd ask for my money back.

[harmsworth1]

RIP Soyuz Crew, I hope you are looking down with pride at the Russian Space Program today.

[KFodor]

The Soviets were much better than the Americans...at least at first...in the idea of "clustering" rockets to create maximum thrust. The Americans, instead, developed more powerful engines. The N-1, as I've researched it, yes...did have 30 engines clustered in its first stage, because they felt some would fail on liftoff, so better to have too much than too little. We, did it, though with 5 F-1 engines.

But, had N-1 worked, it could have created far more thrust than Saturn 5. More like Nova.

[metermatch]

@KFodor 30 engines means 30 things to go wrong, versus 5 with the american Saturn. Sorry, but the Soviet way of 30 engines was a mistake.

[KFodor]

@metermatch Actually, there's no disagreement between us here. Please note I said "at first" the Soviets were better than the Americans at clustering rockets. Obviously, we improved.

And yes, though I agree 5 is better than 30, let us not forget that there were 5 million 6 hundred-thousand parts on that Saturn 5. It's amazing we had the success that we have with so many things that could have gone wrong.

[jawajawa350]

@Goodcapcay And a big hand for Wernher Von Braun for making Saturn V possible!

[jorgetechful]

La historia espacial es muy extraña, mas aún si se habla de la historia rusa, existen muchas preguntas ¿Por que trataron de destruir a Korolev?, ¿Por que si aterrizaron sondas espaciales en venus, nunca lograron llegar exitosamente a marte?¿por que no desarrollaron en mejor forma el N-1?

[SeverEnergia]

If only Chelomei had got the job... :(

[hunterziegelmann]

This is a win becuase it got airborne befor exploding If there were people on board this i feel sorry for them tho...

[Andrewmcmelonse]

that thing had like 35 engines right

[david245611]

did an n1 ever made it to the moon?

[Segasaturn95]

No, only 4 were ever launched for testing, none of which performed perfectly. The program was canceled and no people were launched.

[stev1212]

No but given another year it would of.

[rossco1966]

nope. I doubt it made it past 100,000 ft. if flew 4 times and blew up every time. I think twice just of the pad, one after about 30 secs , one after about 1.5 mins....

russians flew an unmanned lunar lander in earth orbit to test it but didnt tell anyone till the 90s. They also landed lots of robots on the moon very successfully from 70 onwards till about ?76? which returned rock samples on a small take off stage...

[antimatterXXXIII]

@rossco1966 The last one made it to about 25 miles - first stage burned for a minute and a half. This was a bad rocket - steered by varying the thrust in the colossal ring of 24 small engines. One variable thrust engine was a difficult enough problem (LM descent). 24 of them? And the plumbing and pumps? What were they thinking??

[irishguy200007]

The N1 was designed to fly even if it lost some of it's first stage engines.The opposite engine would simply turn off and the N1 would continue on course.However the control for doing this was not tested statically due to budget constraints.

[DiamZz]

Nobody died on this accident ?????!

[rossco1966]

nope unmanned. Russians launched 4 x N1 launches and all were reportedly unmanned. There was roumours there was a last ditch attempt to man the july 69 launch to at least put a russian around the moon whilst neil walked on it to steal some thunder (they were also landing a robot rover at the same time to fly back rocks ahead of apollo 11 but it crashed). the 7/69 launch blew up but the escape system fired to yank the capsule off. Rare you would fit an active escape system to unmanned mission

[Thunda407]

The first stage of this rocket had 30 engines, therefore the possibility of a cascading component failure was almost 100% - even if the engines were a reliable design like Sergei Korolyev's were.

The race to the moon effectively was over in 1961 after Korolyev died - his death was needless - Stalin tortured Korolyev in the gulag, which deformed his face, and thus he couldn't receive the oxygen/artificial respiration which would have saved his life.

[irishguy200007]

The problem with the N1 is that they never static tested the first stage to make sure they control system worked properly.With modern computers the N1 would fly perfectly.The individual engines on the first stage work to this day without any problems.

[Thunda407]

Yep - give credit where credit's due - the Russian 'build-on' approach is very practical. Us Americans, well... we just can't resist the urge to reinvent the wheel every so often... which is why the Russians could fly about 4 Soyuzes for every one Shuttle launch.

It would be interesting to rebuild both the N1 and the Saturn V with modern materials and avionics, though....

[rossco1966]

and the F1A engine for the sat V that was built, test fired, slated for apollo 18 onwards and never flown. Theres a few in museums. I think it was like 25% more efficient and about the same percentage lighter. Multiply that by 5 engines on your sat V first stage and you get the picture. Moon polar landing - no problem - mars fly by? - venus orbital? they were ALL real posibilities. Then nixon and the vietnam war screwed it all. Wierld similar to whats happening right now...

[rwboa22]

Korolyev actually died in 1966 during a botched operation. Not only did the gulag affected him, but the pressures from Nikita Khruschev for aimless Soviet space "firsts," along with a fight between him and Chelomei (and his "Proton-on-steroids" moon rocket) also took their toll.

[rossco1966]

Agree.... Russia really stuffed up the mid game which guaranteed a big FAIL on the end game to the moon. They had no equivalent to gemini other than a space walk. Then never practiced real manned rendevous, long duration, high orbit, serious plane changes etc. They figured a few unmanned tests in the late 60s and over reliance on ground control (i.e. 60s cosmonauts sadly had no more real input than liaka for most of the flights!) would be fine for the moon. that bit stuns me...

[dag214]

All of the Saturn V stages were transported on their sides until stacked in the VAB.

[montipellier]

This is good footage. Notice how it is being transported sideways. This could have contributed to its failure. Von Braun never allowed this to happen with the Saturn V as it remained upright 100% of the time.

[DiscoverRussia]

Nazi Von Braun faild to make US icbm for long time !

You have used bombers insted of that !

It is realy shame that we havent droped some termonuclear warheads on your country !

[MusicalFan1701]

What exactly would dropping thermonuclear warheads on any country accomplish?

[camilleri63]

Thanks to DiscoverRussia, I have now learned that the USSR was in possession of the little known 'Termonuclear' warhead, which functioned by ejecting millions of radioactive termites to eat enemy buildings to death :) Of course we hear little of its American 'Antinuclear' counterpart :p

[fedeaer737]

i have a question. HOW IT COULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO ITS FAILURE?

[Florhusband]

The immediate cause (if I remember correctly, according to Wikipedia) was uncontrolled oscillation, which led to a breakdown of a pipe. That flight ended just shy of 69 seconds from launch. However, the deeper cause was the death of Sergei Koroloev, the Soviet space program's chief designer. After he died, no one in the USSR had the right combination of technical expertise and sheer bullying power to push their manned lunar projects to fruition.

[GendPzTrSchmidt]

Maybe it wasn't fueled at this stage.

[mashamorgan]

Apparently the Soviets lost many cosmonauts between 1958-61. We'll never know the truth I do believe they did lose brave men and perhaps a woman who would never be acknowledged for their bravery and exploits

[Arcmate]

I disagree. The truth is known about lost cosmonauts. Komarov was killed in Soyuz 1 and the crew of Soyuz 11 were lost on their return. Beyond that, a cosmonaut was lost in training when he was burned to death in an isolation room ( Valentin?) there have been no other deaths. A Soyuz was lost at first stage separation but the crew ejected safely and another crew ejected on the launch pad due to a failure on the rocket and subsequent fire again landing safely.

[mashamorgan]

Bondarenko.

[woodman19]

the Russian space program simply lacked the funding to properly develop the N1 and its engines, otherwise they would of been on the moon with the american's in the early 70's

[monkeyman1140]

The N-1 had too many engines. Balancing the power of its dozens of engines was beyond the capabilities of Soviet technology of the time. Saturn had 5 engines.

[jawajawa350]

The problem with the N1 was that due to political reasons its engines were designed by Kuznetsov, an aircraft engine designer who had little experience with rocket engines. The engines ended up small and low powered, leading to the large number needed. The engines themselves were very advanced, making use of fuel injected into the exhaust outlets which would mix with air taken in from the upper stages to give more power at high altitude. The problem was simple... the complex plumbing.

[dag214]

I am glad you stated this, you are 110% correct. There is a lot written about the bad plumbing. And all of the Saturn V was transported on there sides until stacked in the VAB.

[Arcmate]

In the early part of the clip it seems as though there are medical crews attempting to revive the crew of Soyuz 11 after their return from the Salut station. They died when their capsule accidentally depressurised.

[montipellier]

Yeah Russians didn't have their shit together.

[jawajawa350]

Well, they had their shit together enough to put the first satelite, dog, man, woman and three man capsule into space, as well as the first space walk, and the first space station, and the first robot on the moon, and the first rocket to mercury...like it or not, that's a lot of shit.

[Plutoplatter]

Hey, Jawa, let's be careful here...the firsts that you cite for the Soviets weere primarily stunts, meaning little from the technology could be rolled over to truly meaningful uses, for mankind, like launching weather satellites or geostationary-orbit communications satellites. Plus, the Soviets did not launch any rocket to Mercury, and never have. And their Lunikhod robot was okay, but it arrrived there after we already had landed and returned moonsoil to Earth for analysis.

[jawajawa350]

Sorry, my mistake, it was Venus, not Mercury, as for the other firsts being 'stunts', isn't that what all space exploration is? After all, we can't do an awful amount up there really...apart from weather and communication satelites which you point out...what has really been achieved? Space exploration has been about prestige more than anything else.

[loperspest]

Knowledge my friend. Sure, to get the funding scientists are willing to jump through a lot of political hoops. But the hunger, the unending hunger for new knowledge, the ever burning human capacity for curiosity, the wanting to know.

"Ex astris, scientia"

[amsedelm]

Sorry, but you're wrong. Zero gravity science aboard the Shuttle and ISS has led to advances in textile strength, medicine manufacturing, human physiology, heat resistant materials, and many more. That couldn't have been accomplished here on earth. But, I agree that the main impetus, and still a big obstacle, is politics. What else is new? lol! But, Russia also acheived the only photographs from the Venusian surface. Those were astonishing.

[jawajawa350]

Of course, zero gravity has its uses, but its one hell of an expensive way to develop a new medicine, or textile...and I would guess it was wasn't the main reason to go into space. I stand my my prestige theory...after all, the greatest space exploits to date, the moon missions were all about prestige.

[TonyFirelli]

@jawajawa350 If you say who accomplished more in the Space race then we won, but if the moon then...

[jawajawa350]

@TonyFirelli Russia accomplished more in real terms... that is what I am saying.

[mihajlo777]

@jawajawa350 and not to mention that americans had never ben in the moon all that was big fake cause they lost space race with russians !!!

[matatan69]

@mihajlo777 Even the russians admitted that the americans where the first to land on the moon, get a life and ge over your frustrations..

[mihajlo777]

@matatan69 lol what moon man all i saw is one video nothing else sure americans would send more expeditions on moon and make dosent's of videos it is obvious americans whas never on the moon whole world know that it was a big farse cause Rusians beat you in every aspect of space race in that time so dont forghet who is first man in space Jurij Gagarin !!!

[matatan69]

@mihajlo777 , Hey asshole, nobody is disrespecting Yuri Gagarin, the Americans even left his name and a bunch of soviet medals along with the names of the apollo 1 crew on the moon surface to commemorate the fallen astronauts and cosmonauts who died in the space race, the only one being disrespectfull here is you. To our pride and satisfaction history books will continue teaching my children and yours about Neil Armstrong while in few years you'll die and be forgotten like a common NOBODY!

[mihajlo777]

@matatan69 lol only ashole is you i dont see any evidence about americans going to moon no evidence only 1 video o comon man it is the moon it had to be more than few pictures and one video, it is fake fake fake your childrens learning lies in school launched by youre government who lies you all the time, so have a nice day !

[matatan69]

@mihajlo777 , Your english writing resembles that of Tarzan the king of the monkeys. My conclusion is that you are a complete retarded who just want to sound smart by discussing rocket science and conspiracy theories. I bet that you haven't even finish the elementary school.

[mihajlo777]

@matatan69 all you can say is tarzan and monkeys and how my english is good or bad man that is not the point... USA whas never on the moon and that's a fact i see no evidence... so suck it up !!!

[artwleb]

@jawajawa350 The real space race was the Soviets trying to beat the US to major events. The US was not really racing the USSR on the same footing. As to the first 3 man spacecraft that was a one man Vostok with 3 men inside. No ejection seats

and no pressure suits. A real stunt with no value.

[jawajawa350]

@artwleb The US leapfrogged the Soviets with a lot of cash and Von Braun, all through the 60's the Soviets lead the way... as the US did all through the seventies... but those days are now gone... the US is a very different 'nation' now... watered down as a people and in real terms bankrupt, where as Russia could still recover and break more frontiers in space.

[t5239857289578947594]

@jawajawa350 Spacelab was the first space station I think.

[jawajawa350]

@t5239857289578947594 No, it was salyut 1 launched in April 1971...Space lab didn't go up until 12 years later by which time the Soviets had launched 9 space stations.

[MGR1900]

@jawajawa350 And the first country to collapse under the weight of its' own failed philosophy.

[hdufort]

@jawajawa350 , You forgot to mention landing a probe on Venus.

[Blahblobify]

@jawajawa350

LOL most of those "firsts" was repeating the same shit...we put a dog in space!!! now a man!!! Now a woman!!!!

Claim all the firsts for them you want, they lost the race to the moon. Worse than that, 42 years later they have yet to cross the finish line.

[AustrianChaos]

@Blahblobify

You know that the goal of the Russian space program actually was to create reliable IBCMs to carry atomic bombs, right?

Civil spaceflight always was kind of an unloved stepchild of the political leadership - plus, the leader of the Soviet space program, Sergei Korolev, died in 1966.

Under those circumstances, it's actually astonishing they managed to do those feats nevertheless.

[Blahblobify]

@AustrianChaos

Yes I know that and they lost that race too.

During the '62 Cuban Missile Crisis the US had several hundred RELIABLE and ACCURATE ICBM's ready to launch, the Russians had only FOUR liquid fueled ICBM's, which required 24 hours to prepare had they decided to launch, and they would have either blown up or missed their target anyway if they did launch them.

[AustrianChaos]

@Blahblobify

Well, gotta thank those German scientists, eh? ;)

Either way, should the crisis have escalated, there would have been more than enough potential for MAD on both sides.

Apart from that, the you still gotta admit that it's pretty impressive what the soviet scientists managed to do, given the inferiority of their economic and political system.

[monkeyman1140]

The Russians have Energia and Soyuz, we have nothing. Our space program is dead in the water right now with the ending of the shuttle program and no active replacement. I don't think we are brave enough right now to be strapping our astronauts to the tops of leftover Titan ICBMs so we will have to use Russia to loft our astronauts to the ISS

[bombarderoazul]

I know what you mean, The Russians will launch 4 soyuz flights this year, which is unusual, since they have only been doing 2 flights per year for the last ten years or so. This means that they are getting ready to put more people in space, in 2010 the space shuttle will be retired, and soyuz will be the only way to go to space, unless we invite the chinese and use their aircraft.

[kapitankartoon]

WOW! Such good film footage! It is such a shame the Russians could not get it to work.