Deffinately using a mirror. Theres bound to be at least 3 three. As he looks off into like three different areas all the time. If you was to do it without looking you would of just stared at the guitar all the time. If your going to attempt to make yourself look like a even worse of a idiot, at least to it properlly.
1st u think ur pro at warcraft 3 now u think u can play Guitar hero 3 wit out looking first one get it pluged 2nd 1 learn da song so u don't muk up evry1 knows ur m8 is playing becuase u kept mucking up song learn it and mabey u could do it wit out freind and if u were playing try get a reflection or try to atleast plug ur controller into 2nd pad and get ur m8 to do 1st player so it looks more real
You are all fags lmao... you all probably never heard of a hobby... and most of you are like... "ZOMG WHAT A NO LIFE U SPENT ALLTHAT TIME DOIGN THAT SHIET AND STUFF... AND U PROLLY NEVER GET A GF..." ya.... are you guys awake? i mean seriously if you guys know what kinda lives are cool then why bother come on youtube and watch videos...
congradulations u spent weeks just to play a video without lookin ur a total hard ass i just feel sorry u wasted weeks tryin to do that now why dont u get a life
Nice to see he has a Dreamcast and N64 in the background... Good job man..... But should of showed his score and note ratio at the end cause he did miss alot of notes.....
why are there always people that think the person is cheating, not just at guitar hero, fucking everything, theres always people looking 4 faults in the videos, why?
lol this guy isnt looking in a mirror... hes looking in the camera and on the floor and out the window as he plays :P this guy is just one of them 1337 gamers that kick ass :P lol awesome dude
you can tell that another person was playing because when it was playing GY G GY he was playing GY GY GY or maybe I'm wrong and he really is playing XD I dunno, but it looks fake.
good job i cant do that even with my eyes open and looking straight at the goddamn thing, buuuuuuuuut, you might have a mirror infront of you, but i dont think so. so that is why i think that's really good,now, can you do the same thing with RUSH YYZ.
His friend is playing. You just cant see them. The guy you can see has his controller unplugged. Look at his face. He looks like he is trying not to bust up laughing.
lol he not playing he fakeing because at the start he wasnt strumming and as you can tell the wires go right so the ps2 is over there with some1 else playing on it with a controller or another guitar
seriously this guy aint lookin in a mirrir...its not a hard song to play and if he was looking in a mirror in sure he could do better than he did u fucking morans this guy is average and ppl dont have to cheat to play this game good cos it aint hard.. i can play every song on expert except jordan on GH2 u guys just all suck and cant accept the fact that some one is better than you.
You all are frickin retards. If his friend was in the background playing, how could he get everything right? Look at his fuckin fingers and the screen. And if it was a mirror, it would all be backwards, making it harder for him. You all are so fucking retarded. He is good and you all cannot accept it.
wtf does age have to do with anything lol, just depends on how much of your life your willing to spend practicing, and if you were not looking in a mirror or cheating on this somehow, that pretty fucking sweet :)
if you have good memoryit basically repeats itself so i mean it wouldnt be hard and btw i can do it but that doesnt mean i have too much time just not enough things to do what with me living around abunch of old people
i think its kinda well really nerdy to learn a song on guitar hero backwards as it means u mus tplay it all day and night for weeks or a t least a week in order to learn it so NERD NERD ! !
ok, you retards. Why are you wasting your time arguing about what difficulty level it's on? BIG DEAL! it's hard to do, mirror or not. At some points, his head/eye movements and facial expression give off the possibility of a mirror being used. It'd still be hard, since he'd be reading the screen backwards. Jesus, Joseph and Doggy-Style Mary, why argue about difficulty!?
Dude thats like the easiest song to remember in the whole game. its mostly the same repeating notes all the time. I do give him credit for actually doin it. There is no mirror you MORONS!!!!
few things memorizing a gong on guitar hero is hard bc once you learn on a real guitar how to read tabs its easier to remember numbers then sets of nodes.even if it was a mirror its hard looking at it backwards an doin it plus he looked in different places.he also had his fingers right the whole time so shut it haters an great job
lol dont care what anyone says, because hes looking around the entire time and his hands are actually going along with the song, he owns. even if he does look like a nerd... lol
just looking at i realized its not as hard as it seems to memorize that song just gotta remember the transitions after you know the song well enuf im trying to do the same thing with smoke on the water but memorizing that solo is imposibizle!~
and im gonna say that he didn't have a mirror because that is possible but it looks like he just looks randomely around the room as he plays, so i dont know.
for all of the people who said there is a mirror, He'd have to see through himself before he saw the screen in the mirror because by the way his room is, it looks as if there is nowhere else he could put it and even it was a mirror he'd have to get used to that as well and that is difficult.
Fucking awesome job dude. You fucking people are retarded. Even if there was a mirror, I dare you to try it. Just because some of you suck, you don't have to hate the kid. Fuck of you people full of hate!
If he used a mirror then he would have to loo at it all tthe time, he barrely ever looks at the same place and at one point he gets a load of it wrong so if he had a mirror he would look at it to correct himself! so meh
haha everyone comments bad cuz they can't do it so don't think its possible... oh DDR stealth they must manipulate the footage to hide arrows themselves???
and you must all have lives watching videos all day posting stupid comments...
Even if he is looking at a mirror he isnt looking at all times which is pretty impressive. I can do alot of songs without looking alot but I have to look most times. Hes good and we shouldnt duss him. fuck all people do is rag on people because they can do no better
I've seen better, and actually that's a common song to do that with Not all that hard, no mirror or second TV required. Still, pretty good though. I'm not getting the games till Christmas though.
this song is very easy!
britoury1991 6 months ago
puts mizeravi
orreidanoite 10 months ago
i like the mirror ur lookin into ;)
SuperXbox360player 1 year ago
he is not playing he has a friend in the room playing wiht another guitar
lunahd4 2 years ago
@lunahd4 He's clearly playing. Watch his fingers and the screen at the same time everytime he messes up it does the wrong note sound
foodstampsandmagnets 8 months ago
Spoko 5/5 Nice
odine140 2 years ago
Nobody cares little shit.
Flurolamp 2 years ago
did you know some people play guitar without looking at the screen.... oh wait they have been doing that for years
Awesomo4003 2 years ago
nerd
lewigooie 2 years ago
Sorry for being rude, But thats an easy song to memorize. Been there, done that.
IanSparta 3 years ago
if you check out my channel you will find i have a blindfolded video of a song thats not too easy to memorize
PaddleMaster47 3 years ago
hi hows it going dudew this is awsome i cant belive u can do tht
kaufmanboy1 3 years ago
sorry for my rude comment but this song is prolly the best on that game...
mda40000 3 years ago
This would be legit only if you showed whats in front of you. No one is that stupid... youre using a mirror.
IPwnYou4Eva 3 years ago
Idiot :/.
If he was using a mirror, you'd see him staring in front of him. Not having his eyes closed/looking down.
Yaymudkip 2 years ago
Don't judge me. :(
IPwnYou4Eva 2 years ago
I judge thee
Yaymudkip 2 years ago
this kid looks retarded...
mda40000 3 years ago
lol
adizan09 3 years ago
This is legit, i can also do this. Will be posting a video.
bobvila187 3 years ago
yeah, theres mirrors. why else would he be laughing so long..weirdly??
Mirthless79 3 years ago
Autism?
jk good job!
Mirthless79 3 years ago
lol? he might not be playing or mirror and look s realy reasy to memorise
paulbrian808 3 years ago
idiot u have a mirrir lol and if u dont i think u need to get a life...
puppysaysftw 3 years ago
Kids like that need to get a life...
Tw1st3dM3ta1 3 years ago
Deffinately using a mirror. Theres bound to be at least 3 three. As he looks off into like three different areas all the time. If you was to do it without looking you would of just stared at the guitar all the time. If your going to attempt to make yourself look like a even worse of a idiot, at least to it properlly.
DanielsHungry 3 years ago
time - 3:01 rofl... nice mirror watching skills. lets not make it obvious now.
thatDPkid 3 years ago
where is the mirror?
clankherojordan 3 years ago
it looks pretty real i can play message in a bottle on medium not looking for like half the song so this looks legit.
Smokingtroll 3 years ago
he might be using a mirror
elitehunter101 4 years ago
he wasn't play
jorgemalky 4 years ago
1st u think ur pro at warcraft 3 now u think u can play Guitar hero 3 wit out looking first one get it pluged 2nd 1 learn da song so u don't muk up evry1 knows ur m8 is playing becuase u kept mucking up song learn it and mabey u could do it wit out freind and if u were playing try get a reflection or try to atleast plug ur controller into 2nd pad and get ur m8 to do 1st player so it looks more real
Graeme567 4 years ago
What?
senhordasempadas 3 years ago
wow... i can play it without lookin alot better than him...99 percent...
brutal7 4 years ago
If he wasn't playing don't you think he would proble um...be getting more right...
jordoice 4 years ago
hey you fags, you guys have no life or talent cos you obviously jealous, this guy probs like the song a lot and wants to show how good he is
whats wrong with being good at a game ?
im sure you all play video games right, and im sure some of you are rteally good at them
so what difference so guitar hero make ? nothing , cos your jealous retards :]
Terrorbore 4 years ago
You are all fags lmao... you all probably never heard of a hobby... and most of you are like... "ZOMG WHAT A NO LIFE U SPENT ALLTHAT TIME DOIGN THAT SHIET AND STUFF... AND U PROLLY NEVER GET A GF..." ya.... are you guys awake? i mean seriously if you guys know what kinda lives are cool then why bother come on youtube and watch videos...
zzzzzzzzzz098 4 years ago
congradulations u spent weeks just to play a video without lookin ur a total hard ass i just feel sorry u wasted weeks tryin to do that now why dont u get a life
tcal91 4 years ago
fucking homosexual gay go wash ur face mother fucker! and get a new lifa!!!!!!
merbili 4 years ago
Nice to see he has a Dreamcast and N64 in the background... Good job man..... But should of showed his score and note ratio at the end cause he did miss alot of notes.....
RaggaRasta 4 years ago
I SAW A MIRROR!!!! LOL j/k
Alienpubes 4 years ago
wow your amazing
Darknessfire911 4 years ago
He's not playing they just edited so it looks like he's actually playing
Koalapig898 4 years ago
You spent all that time to practice that and yoiu lost all your freinds and prolly never got a gf... get a life bro
Vital433 4 years ago
wow u must have no life. find a girlfriend. good luck
thejohnofsteel 4 years ago
it would be better if he wore a paper bag over his face.
macsull101 4 years ago
I bet he's lookin in a mirror. Unless he's just dont that soo many times he rememerized it.
UNlCORNS 4 years ago
its not fake lmfao.
i can play beast and the harlot with my eyes closed. its not hard.
just because u suck and u can't do it dosn't mean everyones cheating. watch his fucking fingers.
lastonestanding123 4 years ago
Woooooow. Good for you. You think anyone gives a shit?
FireBreathngSeaHorse 4 years ago
Why di always some people think he is cheeting his not you can se that bacause his not always looking strait.! dumasses
forvermusicinmymind 4 years ago
I dont think this guy is cheating, but it would be good if he wore a blindfold. Just to scare of unbelivers.
Hjernded 4 years ago
why are there always people that think the person is cheating, not just at guitar hero, fucking everything, theres always people looking 4 faults in the videos, why?
KungFuFighter252 4 years ago
cool man! your good
Jonte790 4 years ago
lol this guy isnt looking in a mirror... hes looking in the camera and on the floor and out the window as he plays :P this guy is just one of them 1337 gamers that kick ass :P lol awesome dude
superknast 4 years ago
he is good!
dabom117 4 years ago
dude hes looking in a mirror and he set it to left i would know.....-.-dumbass
zeauz 4 years ago
dude i agree with everyone cheater remove video. you fail at life.
orangegrapeus 4 years ago
BS that vids fake man he just got his friend to do it and he pretended
dodgeviper1345 4 years ago
you can tell that another person was playing because when it was playing GY G GY he was playing GY GY GY or maybe I'm wrong and he really is playing XD I dunno, but it looks fake.
MeiSakura14 4 years ago
lol its easy to do when your controllers unpluged and your friends playing the song
volcomman685 4 years ago
How fucking stupid are you?
Gotenssj500 4 years ago
ha i can do hanger 18 expert not lookn
loopedrope 4 years ago 4
u probably had a mirror lol
jonomunden 4 years ago
Get a real guitar loser.
iridiumdirge 4 years ago
O___O
bimbarock 4 years ago
hey retard thats on hard i memerized it too
dreamstoashes13 4 years ago
Sex is good for the soul.
ptfusion 4 years ago 5
Some1 else was playing the song behind the video camera
that1indiankid 4 years ago
lol NERD!
spideyfan56 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
you need to get laid
bethuese33 4 years ago
arnt you to busy having sex to be watching this video
Maddacheb 4 years ago
good job i cant do that even with my eyes open and looking straight at the goddamn thing, buuuuuuuuut, you might have a mirror infront of you, but i dont think so. so that is why i think that's really good,now, can you do the same thing with RUSH YYZ.
rushgeddylee 4 years ago 2
good job on not looking dude, i admire ur ability...haha i can get 85-90% on this song while headbanging...its intense lmao :P
greenbean82 4 years ago
Dude how old are you...get a life seriouisly u need a girlfriend
urmom234 4 years ago
Good Job! I can tell that's not fake though. Awesome, especially 4 a kid like me.
TotalDistinction 4 years ago
i say not fake imean its not that hard to memerize i mean i can play half of yyz not looking its all the same stuff
xtremepowner 4 years ago
ok its not fake....he looks up and down alot....the mirror is not gonna move....i say no fake
angus1wit1a1tippmann 4 years ago
His friend is playing. You just cant see them. The guy you can see has his controller unplugged. Look at his face. He looks like he is trying not to bust up laughing.
FireBreathngSeaHorse 4 years ago
If you look at the Guitar, he is playing the right notes. (except when he messes up.)
Zerce 4 years ago
y is everyone saying this is fake, what the fuck is the difference of memorizing a guitarhero song and an actual song on the guitar
Bassitup1 4 years ago
i am not saying its fake, it is just sad.
acidburnben 4 years ago
props 'g'
yotitosan 4 years ago
haha prolly lookin
into a miror
demaburt 4 years ago
HOLY HELL YOUR A FUCKING SAINT
1125CdM93 4 years ago
most people think its cheating and there retarded becase thats skill
musicfr33ks 4 years ago
Why do so many people think its fake, dude all it takes is a few plays to memorize a freakin song, god
KubanKevin 4 years ago
no, not really, not unless you are a guitar hero, or just really, really, pathetic.
acidburnben 4 years ago
lol he not playing he fakeing because at the start he wasnt strumming and as you can tell the wires go right so the ps2 is over there with some1 else playing on it with a controller or another guitar
SkySader2 4 years ago
in the strategy guide it says all of the notes to every song
xcardboardbox 4 years ago
seriously this guy aint lookin in a mirrir...its not a hard song to play and if he was looking in a mirror in sure he could do better than he did u fucking morans this guy is average and ppl dont have to cheat to play this game good cos it aint hard.. i can play every song on expert except jordan on GH2 u guys just all suck and cant accept the fact that some one is better than you.
Ph1l1Ph1l1 4 years ago
...are you still talking douche bag?
FireBreathngSeaHorse 4 years ago
a true talent.
passiveagresive 4 years ago
You all are frickin retards. If his friend was in the background playing, how could he get everything right? Look at his fuckin fingers and the screen. And if it was a mirror, it would all be backwards, making it harder for him. You all are so fucking retarded. He is good and you all cannot accept it.
whiteytann 4 years ago
*yawn* yes. everyone BUT you is retarded. sure. ok.
FireBreathngSeaHorse 4 years ago
wtf does age have to do with anything lol, just depends on how much of your life your willing to spend practicing, and if you were not looking in a mirror or cheating on this somehow, that pretty fucking sweet :)
hehasadarkside 4 years ago
wow u gus suk i could even do that and im only 10 and get a 100% u guys suk
FightxForxHonor 4 years ago
i played the song cows boys from hell and bark at the moon with out looking:D
zomgphats 4 years ago
i can play songs backwards...its not hard...the game only has 5 frets on the guitar...
FanboyHunter 4 years ago
to prove hes not looking in a mirror play ir with ur eyes closed
cholawa 4 years ago
loser ur fuckin looking in a mirror!!!
blasterball666 4 years ago
you guys suck like i said play it backwards n00bs
xXxSnowblindxXx 4 years ago
i could never do that thats koooooooool!
rainyday44 4 years ago
its so easy to play that backword u noob
NAED5895 4 years ago
this guy must have alot of time on his hands
smbretbret76 5 years ago
if you have good memoryit basically repeats itself so i mean it wouldnt be hard and btw i can do it but that doesnt mean i have too much time just not enough things to do what with me living around abunch of old people
Snuggles15 5 years ago
HERE'S how you know u have WAY too much time on ur hands....
OTsoccerplaya 5 years ago
guys i already know youre noobs so shutup about the MIRROR and put your viedo of YOU play'n back wards as$ holes!
xXxSnowblindxXx 5 years ago
you noobs you guys suck a mirror? hes looking ALL OVER THE PLACE
xXxSnowblindxXx 5 years ago
he has no mirror you guys try and play it backwards noobs!
xXxSnowblindxXx 5 years ago
skrew you guys he has no f***n mirror
xXxSnowblindxXx 5 years ago
i think its kinda well really nerdy to learn a song on guitar hero backwards as it means u mus tplay it all day and night for weeks or a t least a week in order to learn it so NERD NERD ! !
Hurse666 5 years ago
how can it be mirrors? he looks at the camera and ground, you guys are dumb.
rawker617 5 years ago
good job man thats man favorite song and dont listen to these posers!
Tamingthebeastlg 5 years ago
mirrors are no fun u dick try learning backwards for real
Zofo22 5 years ago
no it is helmet
fingerz00 5 years ago
musta took along time to memorize
spikey196 5 years ago
take the mirror ur looking at and shove it up ur stipid dick
trogdoritplz 5 years ago
if you wanna know who does this song it is Helmet
fingerz00 5 years ago
It's Ozzy you dumb fuck.
Billjo5 5 years ago
Dude, you're retarded. Its fuckin Helmet
BIGBIRDONCRAZYACID 5 years ago
thank you man this kid doesnt know what he is talkin about
fingerz00 5 years ago
its fucking helmet
nodnarb61 5 years ago
you are retarted it is Helmet you dumbass
bLaCkLaBeL027 4 years ago
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
POWER RANGERS GO.
Billjo5 4 years ago
ok, you retards. Why are you wasting your time arguing about what difficulty level it's on? BIG DEAL! it's hard to do, mirror or not. At some points, his head/eye movements and facial expression give off the possibility of a mirror being used. It'd still be hard, since he'd be reading the screen backwards. Jesus, Joseph and Doggy-Style Mary, why argue about difficulty!?
waterboy4655 5 years ago
Dude thats like the easiest song to remember in the whole game. its mostly the same repeating notes all the time. I do give him credit for actually doin it. There is no mirror you MORONS!!!!
rosycheeks53 5 years ago
who does this song
waitemaine 5 years ago
few things memorizing a gong on guitar hero is hard bc once you learn on a real guitar how to read tabs its easier to remember numbers then sets of nodes.even if it was a mirror its hard looking at it backwards an doin it plus he looked in different places.he also had his fingers right the whole time so shut it haters an great job
vladx 5 years ago
good job dude even if u were looking in a mirrior it doesnt matter thats still hard but u have too much free time
trogdoritplz 5 years ago
my high score is 345,897
johnrotten123 5 years ago
badass. :D and mirror? Is there mirrors all over the room cuz he doesn't look at one spot the whole time. Morons!
halo2chic 5 years ago
That is Expert.
VGFreak8 5 years ago
thats not even on expert its on hard
adam19933333 5 years ago
that aint on fukin expert its on hard
adam19933333 5 years ago
that game looks fun, good job
hughpearse 5 years ago
Guys stop being harsh on him.. if there was a mirror he wouldn't mess up as much. I bet he can pwn all of you in guitar hero.
Anyways, you did a awesome job. I can do the same thing.. however only on medium. And you look a lot like my friend :O. *favorited*
Tazzi2007 5 years ago
omg i love guitar hero!!! im good at it but i cant NOT LOOK AT THE SCREEN! good job :)
WitheringRose27 5 years ago
fuck you just learn to play guitar and stop being a pussy and thinking ur cool for playing guitar hero
tubularyube 5 years ago
mirror
maxydine 5 years ago
lol dont care what anyone says, because hes looking around the entire time and his hands are actually going along with the song, he owns. even if he does look like a nerd... lol
AussieHunter24 5 years ago
i dunno if hes playin it but not like it wud be hard its the same as memorizing a song on the real guitar except easier so i dont kno y he wudnt
joeb1823 5 years ago
wow that was just simply amazing.i wish i could do that
Antisoraman 5 years ago
Great job^^ and fuck these loosers trying to psych you down. they have no more life than the rest of us:P
SuperEgo1985 5 years ago
jeez more haterz they just suck at this game they cant remember sh!t so they think its hard to remember the notes to this song lmao
I love them little tacos
I loves them good...
HelloMan93 5 years ago
its a mirror
mikerune0 5 years ago
ya ok....yet he's looking around the entire fucking time
verdun 5 years ago
some one else is playing it
mikerune0 5 years ago
Well even if someone else is which there prob not he has his fingers in the right places at the right time for the whole vid?
arsenaltengu88 5 years ago
LOL
great!!!
:)
spencercapencer 5 years ago
just follow the rhydem
TheLatinSnake 5 years ago
GD work this guy reli has alot of free time on his hands
chairboy101 5 years ago
Think about it people, If he used a mirror the notes would be reversed on the screen which would be really confusing.
Qwiglee 5 years ago
just looking at i realized its not as hard as it seems to memorize that song just gotta remember the transitions after you know the song well enuf im trying to do the same thing with smoke on the water but memorizing that solo is imposibizle!~
chauchalink 5 years ago
o_0 Sweet Jesus! Mirror or not that was well good!
watermelon438 5 years ago
I give him props just for attempting to play this on expert!
jennyjen3306 5 years ago
he could be looking in a mirror but he's better than me anyway
rh117 5 years ago
im not gonna say that it was the greatest.
and im gonna say that he didn't have a mirror because that is possible but it looks like he just looks randomely around the room as he plays, so i dont know.
acooldude0 5 years ago
for all of the people who said there is a mirror, He'd have to see through himself before he saw the screen in the mirror because by the way his room is, it looks as if there is nowhere else he could put it and even it was a mirror he'd have to get used to that as well and that is difficult.
sakenem 5 years ago
Fucking awesome job dude. You fucking people are retarded. Even if there was a mirror, I dare you to try it. Just because some of you suck, you don't have to hate the kid. Fuck of you people full of hate!
DevilsCuz 5 years ago
Cool I could do most of the song without looking too probably not all of it though
IZIEIRIOI 5 years ago
This kid could very well not have jsut practiced this song over and over again.
For me my "warm up" song that I always play before playing i have nearly memoriized now (not that well) w
swp0291 5 years ago
thats good but you have way to much free time
bakersk8er 5 years ago
i love pie
HomoDude93 5 years ago
your a fuckin loser, get a life
vcr413 5 years ago
fauck u meng dont hate cause u aint a playa...oh well let the kid me
MafFilms 5 years ago
yeah I agree, probably a mirror and I'd definitely believe you if you had a blind fold on and didn't miss any notes. I've seen better.
spankypowerade 5 years ago
If he used a mirror then he would have to loo at it all tthe time, he barrely ever looks at the same place and at one point he gets a load of it wrong so if he had a mirror he would look at it to correct himself! so meh
123jonnyp123 5 years ago
haha everyone comments bad cuz they can't do it so don't think its possible... oh DDR stealth they must manipulate the footage to hide arrows themselves???
and you must all have lives watching videos all day posting stupid comments...
mattman133 5 years ago
me again get a LIFE
ujhn 5 years ago
Stop sucking cocks and you'll be as good.
DevilsCuz 5 years ago
dude get a life if u can remember a song on expert you absoluly have no life no girl and no friends p.s.MIRROR
ujhn 5 years ago
Even if he is looking at a mirror he isnt looking at all times which is pretty impressive. I can do alot of songs without looking alot but I have to look most times. Hes good and we shouldnt duss him. fuck all people do is rag on people because they can do no better
Martinbuff40 5 years ago
or he has no life and he wasted about every hour studying this song that he had a lot of time on his hands and just did exactly that.
Akumaryu700 5 years ago
I've seen better, and actually that's a common song to do that with Not all that hard, no mirror or second TV required. Still, pretty good though. I'm not getting the games till Christmas though.
theprimesuspect 5 years ago
Mirror or 2 Tvs
Masanian 5 years ago
Sit up straight.
NikovK 5 years ago
i reckon its some1 else playin
tonymontanascarface0 5 years ago