from these comments there appears to be intonation problems, i can say that i enjoy this full song including those problems. i believe the sound of the intonation problem brings more sadness to the song , maybe an instrument crying in some sort of way is how i hear it
Guys, IMO opinion there are no mistakes or a rusty player when it comes to someone like Dolphy or Ayler.Archie Shep sounds sloppy at the times but I am positive that it's not from lack of practice.Listen to the song as a whole piece rather to try and pick out"mistakes" that players made...Enes
As others have said (or could, or should have said) this playing surpasses any talk of "intonation problems". Yourockets: if there is a better recording of this track please tell us, as this Bb clarinet piece is one of the most sublime (words cannot do it justice, as it is music) track in jazz history. There are far 'riskier' (worse) performances by Eric. Flammesombres has it, but not quite: that squeak half way through just adds to the humanity of Eric's playing - he went for it...
file epeidi psaxnomai gia jazz me flaouto an mporeis steile mou mia lista me jazz kallitexnes pou xrisimopoioun to flaouto san kirio organo....tha s imoun idiaitera evgnwmon.
apanto giati vlepo eisai ellinas kai m'aresei po psahnese,
loipon, mas afisan hronous alla oi top sto flute gia jazz einai Hubert Laws kai Frank Wess (krystalo tono opoios borei na mou pei gia allo euprosdektos+ bravo pou asholise
Grandioso aquí DOLPHY con el clarinete bajo , al igual que cuando tocaba la flauta travesera o el saxo alto !!! Formidable !! ¡y muy buenos todos los demás!
This is such a pretty tune Mal Waldron was a great writer.Yes Eric had some intonation problems on this tune.Bob Weinstock was notorious for not paying the artist studio time to rehearse.None the less I simply love the pure beauty in this tune. Quite a few bass players in the middle 50's thru the early 60's played cello on record Oscar Pettiford,Sam Jones,Doug Watkins and of course Ron Carter on this very moving tune.
I can't agree - I'm really and totally a Dolphy fan, but I think this one is a bad recording. I think that Eric had difficulties with Bb clarinet - he rarely played it, probabily he disliked to play it and often had technical troubles ( maybe only caused by lack of practicing).
@yourockets You are right...i can hear that he has intonation problem and some articulation difficulties (1:14)...it is obvious he needs practise(i somehow wonder why they didn't record it multiple times till the problems go away).
But still the result is a piece of art (if you ''push'' out these facts)..:)
yes! I know music isn't just anything but technical skill - and it's true, this piece has its own atmosphere, mood and feeling :) and this is the real point...
by the way at times eric squeaked also with bass clarinet, but I never felt this being a problem, nor in a technical or musical way.
I grew up with new orleans clarinet players in my ears :) I know techique isn't the point at all.
@xatzidakis maybe because it sounds beautiful. like moles on lips, knots in trees, bugs caught in amber... purity is boring, if not impossible. embrace it. Dolphy clearly did, which is what made him so brilliant.
mother of Christ! I heard this 1965? 15-16? thought I;d died and gone to heaven..t had to special order back then... wore it out...still a masterpiece! hanks for posting...
most beautiful "intonation problems" I've ever heard.
bethellodge 1 month ago
Mal Waldron...Lady Day's favorite pianist* I didn't say it, she did !!!
william52648 8 months ago
He went for it. Absolutely right. Just love this performance.
numberninedoctor 11 months ago
from these comments there appears to be intonation problems, i can say that i enjoy this full song including those problems. i believe the sound of the intonation problem brings more sadness to the song , maybe an instrument crying in some sort of way is how i hear it
SLAYER0429 1 year ago 3
Guys, IMO opinion there are no mistakes or a rusty player when it comes to someone like Dolphy or Ayler.Archie Shep sounds sloppy at the times but I am positive that it's not from lack of practice.Listen to the song as a whole piece rather to try and pick out"mistakes" that players made...Enes
IxENESxI 1 year ago 5
The great "Joe" Benjamin on bass
colamesta 1 year ago
As others have said (or could, or should have said) this playing surpasses any talk of "intonation problems". Yourockets: if there is a better recording of this track please tell us, as this Bb clarinet piece is one of the most sublime (words cannot do it justice, as it is music) track in jazz history. There are far 'riskier' (worse) performances by Eric. Flammesombres has it, but not quite: that squeak half way through just adds to the humanity of Eric's playing - he went for it...
hybridmongrel 1 year ago 6
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xatzidakis 1 year ago
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apanto giati vlepo eisai ellinas kai m'aresei po psahnese,
loipon, mas afisan hronous alla oi top sto flute gia jazz einai Hubert Laws kai Frank Wess (krystalo tono opoios borei na mou pei gia allo euprosdektos+ bravo pou asholise
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DYNODRUM 1 year ago
Grandioso aquí DOLPHY con el clarinete bajo , al igual que cuando tocaba la flauta travesera o el saxo alto !!! Formidable !! ¡y muy buenos todos los demás!
LEONCODAJJ 1 year ago
He was a genius for sure !!!
AltoSaxBoss 1 year ago
@ clivatx
già sei il mio persecutore occulto :) e io qui a criticare uno dei miei idoli di sempre ...
yourockets 1 year ago
beautful- a warm canto!!!!!!
eric was great!
sigbangschmidt 1 year ago
intonation problems of course, but man Dolphy's playing is so utterly heartfelt. Truly unique guy.
flammesombres 1 year ago
This is such a pretty tune Mal Waldron was a great writer.Yes Eric had some intonation problems on this tune.Bob Weinstock was notorious for not paying the artist studio time to rehearse.None the less I simply love the pure beauty in this tune. Quite a few bass players in the middle 50's thru the early 60's played cello on record Oscar Pettiford,Sam Jones,Doug Watkins and of course Ron Carter on this very moving tune.
hremdldw 2 years ago 4
@hremdldw Thank you for the info!:)
xatzidakis 1 year ago
I can't agree - I'm really and totally a Dolphy fan, but I think this one is a bad recording. I think that Eric had difficulties with Bb clarinet - he rarely played it, probabily he disliked to play it and often had technical troubles ( maybe only caused by lack of practicing).
I prefer to think to his work on other horns.
yourockets 2 years ago
@yourockets You are right...i can hear that he has intonation problem and some articulation difficulties (1:14)...it is obvious he needs practise(i somehow wonder why they didn't record it multiple times till the problems go away).
But still the result is a piece of art (if you ''push'' out these facts)..:)
xatzidakis 2 years ago
yes! I know music isn't just anything but technical skill - and it's true, this piece has its own atmosphere, mood and feeling :) and this is the real point...
by the way at times eric squeaked also with bass clarinet, but I never felt this being a problem, nor in a technical or musical way.
I grew up with new orleans clarinet players in my ears :) I know techique isn't the point at all.
yourockets 2 years ago
@xatzidakis Bb clarinet is a lot different from Bass, the tongue placement also determines squeaks and what not, and chin placement.
Intelligentia100 8 months ago
@xatzidakis maybe because it sounds beautiful. like moles on lips, knots in trees, bugs caught in amber... purity is boring, if not impossible. embrace it. Dolphy clearly did, which is what made him so brilliant.
bethellodge 1 month ago
@yourockets
sempre a lamentarti tu... ti trovo anche qui ahahaha "maestro" :D
clivatxt 1 year ago
mother of Christ! I heard this 1965? 15-16? thought I;d died and gone to heaven..t had to special order back then... wore it out...still a masterpiece! hanks for posting...
ratherfam 2 years ago
@ratherfam you're welcome my friend!
xatzidakis 2 years ago
beautiful, man, beautiful.
Soulnik 2 years ago
Great music and presentation Thank Yoy :))))
trener66 2 years ago
sooo good.
askthemailman 2 years ago
Thanks...very special!!! 好いですよ＾＾＾
A true original with his own distinctive styles...
maidoodesu 2 years ago