WHAT?! Dear friend do a bit of research before you put your face up here for the world to see! The papcy made the "Gregorian calendar" and they say sunday is the first day of the week. So yes sunday is not the first day.
Ya know, I think I'm beginning to understand why Germans followed a lunatic like hitler at their own will....Lack of intelligence is the breeding ground for sheeps...
I dont know what calendar you have been using but monday is not the first day of the week sunday is the first day of the week. Monday is the 2nd day of the week thats why saturday is the 7th
Ok then... Have you seen Zeitgeist? Because I would love to hear your thoughts on that one. I was amazed when I saw the beginning of it, and now I'm wondering if it's all true.
Interestingly enough the definition of which is the seventh day isn't an issue its the definition of rest. Entering rest meant to stop your work and start God's work. The Jews had a tradition to do this every week and every seven years take a break from all work and then ever y seventy years taking 2 years of rest (Jubilee). The point was to have faith that God would provide but also let farm land replenish nutrients.
(The Jewish Sabbath day is on Saturday and The Lord's Day is on Sunday Revelation 1:10) The Lord's Day celebrates the New Creation, with Christ as our resurrected head. Also look into Romans 14:5 in regards to the Sabbath.)
Either day Saturday or Sunday you can choose to worship God. But Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath.
Sunday is not the seventh day, it is the first. Also the New Testament says the Christians worshipped on the first day, not the seventh. Christians aren't bound by the 10 commandments. Almost all except the one about the Sabbath are repeated. By the way, Sunday is the first day of the week in your country too, and Saturday the seventh.
The literal definition of Sabbath is a day of worship set aside during a week. What day varies according to the specific religion. What's important is that a day is officially set aside for the week. For Christians, this is Sunday, and anyone who works on Sunday should obviously be stoned to death. By the way, the girl in the video is cute. I wish I could have her as my slave.
the sabath day is actually Saturday (latin Sabado like in spanish). Our calendars are pretty acurate despite what many people say, in fact we go by lunar cycles. Interesting enough the bible says he placed stars in the sky to establish dates and times. I think God just wants us to take a break from work, and rest. It's good for the body and soul that's the reason for the commandment.
The Bible in Hebrew just counts the days. The days have no names, exept Shabbat, because this day is considered holy and seperate from the other "normal" days. The names of the days according to the Torah: (Litteral translation) "sun"-day: Yom Echad (Day one) "Mon"-day: Yom Sheni (Day two) "Tues"-day:Yom Shlishi (Day three) "Wednes"-day: Yom Revi'i (Day four) "Thurs"-day: Yom Chamishi (Day five) "Fri"-day: Yom haShishi (*The* sixth day) "Satur"-day: Shabbat (*Day of* rest) Shalom.
Oh, sorry. I read it wrong. Don't know what I was thinking. =D So they are wrong about it then.
But I forgot. What does it matter? Rest one day, and I think any god would be saitsfied with that... There are more important things to worry about, it seems...
Ok... Well, I'll take your word for it that it is a big deal for that god. I'm not going to follow any god that is so demanding, though. I want the most out of this life, in case it's the only existence i got, and I'm not going to waste it serving something that might not matter. I SHOULD be resting once a week, and I do. But that is to satisfy my own needs as a human being...
Saturday is the 7th day AND the right day. Sunday was forced on people by their governments! So if you rest on Sunday, you are actually disobeying the 4th commandment.
Oh, the discussion is live again! But... the main problem here is that we named all the days in a week after our own gods, and then the hebrew god came and demanded that we rest on the right day. But he apparently forgot to tell us wich it was. Lördag is the 6:th day in swedish culture, but supposedly it happens on the same day as some peoples sabbath, while we rest on the 7:th day, söndag. Now who can tell who is right?
lol...yeah i am repeating myself because the whole reason of me saying that Christ rose on SUNDAY the 1st day of the week..is to show that Sunday is the 1st day according to the Bible. I really dont know how else to put it. If He rose on sunday and the Bible says its the first day of the week...then the only other day that could be the seventh is SATURDAY!!
So it actually says in the Bible that when he rose it happened to be a SUNDAY? That's what you base your whole reasoning on, and so that is what I keep asking!
I believe it makes it clear because if sunday is when Jesus rose...and it states that that was the first day of the week, then from friday night to saturday night was the seventh day which is the Sabbath thus making saturday night to sunday night the firstday of the week and saturday the 7th.
If you have a quote with the word sunday, I will believe you. Otherwise, why would lördag be the seventh day? I feel like I'm repeating myself here, but so are you!
Also as I said in the previous note, if you believe that Jesus rose on sunday like most if not all Christians do...then Mark 1:1-2 makes it Clear. If He rose and sunday and the Scripture says that after the Sabbath was over Mary went to the toomb early on the first day..its clear that Saturday is the Sabbath...and Sunday is the 1st day of the week.
I'm not a believing christian, but that's beside the point. How does what you just wrote prove that sunday is the first day according to the bible? The only thing it proves is that Sabbath is the last day of the week... and that is the biblical week. Now even the calendar year and the church year differs in where it starts. There is reasons for that, but I'm not familiar with them.
I dont know what is available in Sweden...are you in Sweden? But try to find books containing this information. There is a book that is called "From Sabbath to Sunday...also try going to the library and ask them for information concerning this topic.
Yes. We named the weekdays in sweden before we where forced to become christians. And what is to say the sungod's day is the one to start counting from? It doesn't make any sence to me. And ALL the swedish calendars say the week start with the moon godess'es/god's day (måndag (monday)). I just wrote that I didn't know how to go about researching this, so your requesting that I research my info... Yes, but can you please point me to where I am supposed to find this info?
A good article about Shabbat and weekdays can be found at petahtikvah . com / articles
It's a Messianic Jewish site that teaches us the (Messianic) Jewish lifestyle and historyon these issues, and how pagan gods got involved and threw off the system G'd made for us.
The calendar has always started on Sunday..research your information...also its apparent that saturday is the seventh day because when you read your bible and the crucifixion..Im assuming you believe he rose on sunday..if so read Mark1:1-2 and it states that after the Sabbath had passed early that morning on the 1st day of the week Mary went to go see Jesus be he had risen...this shows that he was put in the tomb friday, rested on saturday (the Sabbath) and rose on sunday.
Wodensday turned into wednesday, Thorsday is indeed thursday, Freyasday is friday, and somehow Saturn got a day at the end. Great video, I just subscribed!
In sweden we are told Odens dag (day) -> onsdag wich is our word for wednesday. I think it's all very interesting. Sadly I don't know how to go about reasearching this...
I love your accent by the way :) oh, and another thing: Juidaism is one of the oldest western religions. Many of the customs stayed almost exactly the same as they used to be, which is why it's reasonable to assume saturday is the same shabbat it used to be 2500 years ago and christianity changed it to make the transition from paganism more comfortable. BUT this is interresting. I've already contacted a few rabbis I know to try and answer the question.. I'll post a vid response when I have one.
You make good points. But how do you know that oombachoomba is the seventh day? I mean, it all depends on what day you start counting on. The swedish word "lördag" isn't more related to the sabbat than oombachoomba...
Thanks for the compliment about the accent! But I wonder if our weekdays allways where "syncronized" whith the rest of the world's... I mean, did our "lördag" allways happen at the same time as your "saturday"? What is to say they did? =) Maybe there is more to this question than what appears on the surface?
Not if you go by the bible. I see what you guys mean, but if you go by hebrew (which is the language of the bible) then saturday is the one. You can call it oombachoomba in english, it still "falls" on SABBAT in hebrew, which is the day god ordered people to respect.
God "counted" and got to shabbat, not sunday. Sunday in hebrew is "Rishon" which is first...
I'm all for resting for 2 days btw. Makes much more sense :P
WHAT?! Dear friend do a bit of research before you put your face up here for the world to see! The papcy made the "Gregorian calendar" and they say sunday is the first day of the week. So yes sunday is not the first day.
messengerofthename 2 years ago
Ya know, I think I'm beginning to understand why Germans followed a lunatic like hitler at their own will....Lack of intelligence is the breeding ground for sheeps...
EvilZeroSc 2 years ago
I can just look at any calender! Here in sweden we count the weeks, and they start on monday. Just google or something.
viddeliten 3 years ago
viddel
I dont know what calendar you have been using but monday is not the first day of the week sunday is the first day of the week. Monday is the 2nd day of the week thats why saturday is the 7th
USisFacism 3 years ago
acctually, the Roman Catholic church changed it to sunday to honor the day that Christ died.
mondayafter 3 years ago
Ok then... Have you seen Zeitgeist? Because I would love to hear your thoughts on that one. I was amazed when I saw the beginning of it, and now I'm wondering if it's all true.
viddeliten 4 years ago
Interestingly enough the definition of which is the seventh day isn't an issue its the definition of rest. Entering rest meant to stop your work and start God's work. The Jews had a tradition to do this every week and every seven years take a break from all work and then ever y seventy years taking 2 years of rest (Jubilee). The point was to have faith that God would provide but also let farm land replenish nutrients.
gadimus 4 years ago
(The Jewish Sabbath day is on Saturday and The Lord's Day is on Sunday Revelation 1:10) The Lord's Day celebrates the New Creation, with Christ as our resurrected head. Also look into Romans 14:5 in regards to the Sabbath.)
Either day Saturday or Sunday you can choose to worship God. But Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath.
hope this helped
beachtides24 4 years ago
Sunday is not the seventh day, it is the first. Also the New Testament says the Christians worshipped on the first day, not the seventh. Christians aren't bound by the 10 commandments. Almost all except the one about the Sabbath are repeated. By the way, Sunday is the first day of the week in your country too, and Saturday the seventh.
BattleshipTx 4 years ago
This did not contribute any new information. Read all the comments.
viddeliten 4 years ago
The literal definition of Sabbath is a day of worship set aside during a week. What day varies according to the specific religion. What's important is that a day is officially set aside for the week. For Christians, this is Sunday, and anyone who works on Sunday should obviously be stoned to death. By the way, the girl in the video is cute. I wish I could have her as my slave.
stinky472 4 years ago
the sabath day is actually Saturday (latin Sabado like in spanish). Our calendars are pretty acurate despite what many people say, in fact we go by lunar cycles. Interesting enough the bible says he placed stars in the sky to establish dates and times. I think God just wants us to take a break from work, and rest. It's good for the body and soul that's the reason for the commandment.
coolguy98 4 years ago
Of course not... It's in like hebreic or something! =)
viddeliten 4 years ago
salman5748 4 years ago
So according to this, sunday really is the right day to chill? =)
viddeliten 4 years ago
Huh? what do you mean? Saturday is Shabbat, according to the Bible.
Check out 'The forgotten commandment' on YT =)
Shalom.
salman5748 4 years ago
Oh, sorry. I read it wrong. Don't know what I was thinking. =D So they are wrong about it then.
But I forgot. What does it matter? Rest one day, and I think any god would be saitsfied with that... There are more important things to worry about, it seems...
viddeliten 4 years ago
Well, not if you worship the G'd of the Bible, the G'd of Isra'el.
He takes it very seriously that we should rest on Shabbat. It's the fourth commandment afterall.
It's no problem if we wish to attend the churches and synagoges ALSO on another day, but we HAVE TO keep the original Shabbat.
Did you see 'the forgotten commandment'?
Very useful information.
Shalom.
salman5748 4 years ago
Ok... Well, I'll take your word for it that it is a big deal for that god. I'm not going to follow any god that is so demanding, though. I want the most out of this life, in case it's the only existence i got, and I'm not going to waste it serving something that might not matter. I SHOULD be resting once a week, and I do. But that is to satisfy my own needs as a human being...
viddeliten 4 years ago
That's okay by me, you do with your life what you will, I believe G'd gave us freedom of choice.
But, ever heard of Pascal's wager?
Also very interresting stuff.
Shalom.
salman5748 4 years ago
It doesn't ring a bell...
viddeliten 4 years ago
Ok, I had to look it up here on YT. watch?v=pAI2D_09Jtc
viddeliten 4 years ago
Saturday is the 7th day AND the right day. Sunday was forced on people by their governments! So if you rest on Sunday, you are actually disobeying the 4th commandment.
LinkinSwordSlayer 3 years ago
Oh, the discussion is live again! But... the main problem here is that we named all the days in a week after our own gods, and then the hebrew god came and demanded that we rest on the right day. But he apparently forgot to tell us wich it was. Lördag is the 6:th day in swedish culture, but supposedly it happens on the same day as some peoples sabbath, while we rest on the 7:th day, söndag. Now who can tell who is right?
viddeliten 3 years ago
Well what I find remarkable is that the names on the days means roughly the same thing in english as in swedish! Isn't that a bit curious? =)
I will have a great day, and hope you do likewise!
viddeliten 5 years ago
Is Woden same as Oden? The one eyed guy with the ravens (Hugin and Munin)?
You have the same meanings on the days as me, only sunday is söndag in swedish, wich makes me think about sons. Söner=sons in swedish.
viddeliten 5 years ago
True true no one ever knows if sunday is the sabbath!!! I never thought of that :)
lily350 5 years ago
Apparently you have no idea of what you're talking about.The idea of week starting on monday is fairly new.And yes that also applies to sweden.
HaraldTheRed 5 years ago
That IS true! I have NO idea what I'm talking about! Wich is why this conversation would be easier if people served me facts instead of FUD.
viddeliten 5 years ago
lol...yeah i am repeating myself because the whole reason of me saying that Christ rose on SUNDAY the 1st day of the week..is to show that Sunday is the 1st day according to the Bible. I really dont know how else to put it. If He rose on sunday and the Bible says its the first day of the week...then the only other day that could be the seventh is SATURDAY!!
Tnig08 5 years ago
So it actually says in the Bible that when he rose it happened to be a SUNDAY? That's what you base your whole reasoning on, and so that is what I keep asking!
viddeliten 5 years ago
I believe it makes it clear because if sunday is when Jesus rose...and it states that that was the first day of the week, then from friday night to saturday night was the seventh day which is the Sabbath thus making saturday night to sunday night the firstday of the week and saturday the 7th.
Tnig08 5 years ago
If you have a quote with the word sunday, I will believe you. Otherwise, why would lördag be the seventh day? I feel like I'm repeating myself here, but so are you!
viddeliten 5 years ago
Thing is, the ones coming here to make us christian must have taught us HOW to be christian... so if anyone is to blame, it's them!
viddeliten 5 years ago
Also as I said in the previous note, if you believe that Jesus rose on sunday like most if not all Christians do...then Mark 1:1-2 makes it Clear. If He rose and sunday and the Scripture says that after the Sabbath was over Mary went to the toomb early on the first day..its clear that Saturday is the Sabbath...and Sunday is the 1st day of the week.
Tnig08 5 years ago
I'm not a believing christian, but that's beside the point. How does what you just wrote prove that sunday is the first day according to the bible? The only thing it proves is that Sabbath is the last day of the week... and that is the biblical week. Now even the calendar year and the church year differs in where it starts. There is reasons for that, but I'm not familiar with them.
viddeliten 5 years ago
I dont know what is available in Sweden...are you in Sweden? But try to find books containing this information. There is a book that is called "From Sabbath to Sunday...also try going to the library and ask them for information concerning this topic.
Tnig08 5 years ago
Also sunday was formed as a day for the sun gods as...and these are Pagan.
Tnig08 5 years ago
Yes. We named the weekdays in sweden before we where forced to become christians. And what is to say the sungod's day is the one to start counting from? It doesn't make any sence to me. And ALL the swedish calendars say the week start with the moon godess'es/god's day (måndag (monday)). I just wrote that I didn't know how to go about researching this, so your requesting that I research my info... Yes, but can you please point me to where I am supposed to find this info?
viddeliten 5 years ago
A good article about Shabbat and weekdays can be found at petahtikvah . com / articles
It's a Messianic Jewish site that teaches us the (Messianic) Jewish lifestyle and historyon these issues, and how pagan gods got involved and threw off the system G'd made for us.
Pleas check it out:-)
Shalom.
salman5748 4 years ago
The calendar has always started on Sunday..research your information...also its apparent that saturday is the seventh day because when you read your bible and the crucifixion..Im assuming you believe he rose on sunday..if so read Mark1:1-2 and it states that after the Sabbath had passed early that morning on the 1st day of the week Mary went to go see Jesus be he had risen...this shows that he was put in the tomb friday, rested on saturday (the Sabbath) and rose on sunday.
Tnig08 5 years ago
Wodensday turned into wednesday, Thorsday is indeed thursday, Freyasday is friday, and somehow Saturn got a day at the end. Great video, I just subscribed!
UberGringo 5 years ago
In sweden we are told Odens dag (day) -> onsdag wich is our word for wednesday. I think it's all very interesting. Sadly I don't know how to go about reasearching this...
viddeliten 5 years ago
I love your accent by the way :) oh, and another thing: Juidaism is one of the oldest western religions. Many of the customs stayed almost exactly the same as they used to be, which is why it's reasonable to assume saturday is the same shabbat it used to be 2500 years ago and christianity changed it to make the transition from paganism more comfortable. BUT this is interresting. I've already contacted a few rabbis I know to try and answer the question.. I'll post a vid response when I have one.
mooeypoo 5 years ago
You make good points. But how do you know that oombachoomba is the seventh day? I mean, it all depends on what day you start counting on. The swedish word "lördag" isn't more related to the sabbat than oombachoomba...
viddeliten 5 years ago
Thanks for the compliment about the accent! But I wonder if our weekdays allways where "syncronized" whith the rest of the world's... I mean, did our "lördag" allways happen at the same time as your "saturday"? What is to say they did? =) Maybe there is more to this question than what appears on the surface?
viddeliten 5 years ago
Not if you go by the bible. I see what you guys mean, but if you go by hebrew (which is the language of the bible) then saturday is the one. You can call it oombachoomba in english, it still "falls" on SABBAT in hebrew, which is the day god ordered people to respect.
God "counted" and got to shabbat, not sunday. Sunday in hebrew is "Rishon" which is first...
I'm all for resting for 2 days btw. Makes much more sense :P
Thanks for the response though :) I enjoyed it!!
mooeypoo 5 years ago