Bought 1 of the 2 burners from walmart, got it home and it was dented so bad it was unusable, with the burners bent pointing twords the rear. Bought another one from walmart, and the piston wouldnt lock into the closed position, it wouldnt turn and lock. Has to use the tank from the broken one, on the good grill with the broken tank. Even then, very small yellow flame
Christ I hate those white-gas stoves. My dad and I used to take a Peak 1 up to the Sierras at 10,000 feet and it was always leaking and bursting into flames. Finally got a butane stove and no problems.
1) Never tip the stove when filling - you can overfill it.
2) You will need to re-pump very frequently - maybe every 2 minutes - if you run the stove on full power and the tank is full (because the pressure drops quicker in the small airspace as the fuel level falls).
My 550B settles down to a blue flame a bit quicker than these, provided it lights instantly. Even a couple of seconds' gas flow without ignition can make it flood, then it takes ages to settle.
I just recieved a 442 stove today off ebay. When I went to pump extra pressure in the tank after lighting it, fuel squirted out of the little hole on the pump handle. My hand was soaked with petrol but luckily didn't set fire. I found it quite disconcerting. Could it be something I'm doing wrong or is the stove faulty? It also seems to burn for a long time with a small flame after turning the lever to the off position (about 3 minutes).
@CreamPie9uy Bit of info' to help....the flame glow after turning stove off should be due to the fact there is still air pressure with fuel vapour in the pipe beyond the switch i.e. from switch to flame element where you place pot/pan/cup on burner. The warmer the weather the longer flame will take to fully exstinguish 1-2 mins. Plus make sure the switch (without forcing) is fully tilted to the off where the little metal protrussion is. Cheers
@CreamPie9uy Having a small flame linger after shutting off the fuel valve is normal with all liquid fuel stove or lantern. Expect a small flame will linger for up to 3 minutes after turning off the device. This is due to fuel and air still remaining in the pipe lines and in the generator beyond the shut-off valve and it needs to fully burn up before it extinguished itself. Fuel squiring out of the pump hole is not normal and I can only guess that the pump cups need to be replaced. Good luck.
I know this is a year late, but the fuel squirting out the pump handle sounds like a stuck check valve. This can be a very dangerous thing, and you need to fix it. Check out a Coleman collector's site for instructions. It can usually be fixed by adding one of a few different automotive de-gumming agents.
This old 502 stove brings back memories. Years ago, I used to carry this heavy stove in my backpack. It had a tendency to blow up. I remember having to deal with flames that were 4 feet high.
Or you could read the directions on the stove. (1) To light the 502 only open the valve 1/4 turn on starting, let flame turn blue, then open all the way. You will get a blue flame much faster if you do it the right way. (2) The lever on the suitcase stove does not clean the generator, the main control does. The lever lets air mix with fuel for the start up.
From your post it appears as though you have a 502. My grandpa had one... he died back in 1998 and it hasnt been used since then. But i recently busted it out and the thing light right up. The only problem is it's a little worse for wear and most of the instructions ect are worn completly off.
You wouldnt happen to know what type or types of fuel it burns would you? I'm assuming it's either Karoseen or Coleman fuel. Seeing as after 10 yearson a shelf it still lit right up =)
Coleman (or camp) fuel only*. Your grandfather left you a nice stove that probably means a lot to you, I hope you enjoy using it. Many would argue that the 502 is the best one-burner stove that Coleman ever made; just not the best for backpacking due to size.
*You are right, Coleman fuel (or equivalent) is going to give the best performance and least trouble. Avoid unleaded gasoline as it will clog up the generator and leave deposits in the fuel tank. Alcohol is too corrosive to metal and rubber gaskets, so don't use that. Kerosene can been used with some success, but it requires preheating the generator, something this stove is not made for. Also kerosene is going cause more carbon to build up in the generator.
On that note, the generator can be cleaned, but be careful taking it apart; spare generators can still be purchased and it might be worth having one on hand. The other part that can sometimes fail is the gasket on the gas cap. If that is getting old you may want to pick up a spare cap (you can also replace the gasket in the old one if you wish but save the old cap even if you don't fix it, it looks better).
Finally, put a few drops of oil (any kind, motor oil, mineral oil, 3 in 1, all ok) down the pump shaft occationally (once per camping trip for example), this is necessary to keep the pump cup flexible and sealing properly. Again, great stove and great memento.
I'll deffinetly do that, he had quite a few stoves, ect... i just cant belive that the stories I heard were all true about the 502's. I've always heard they will last 100 years and or generations. I've even heard stories about GI's taking them over sea's. And them getting dropped 300ft from or caught in a fire-fight which a tank didnt make it out of the battle... but these little stoves did, and still work to this day.
OK, those stories are probably a bit of a stretch. I doubt the 502 was used by GI's much -- it was strictly civilian as far as I know although some GI's may have used a personal stove. There was another stove, the 520, that did see a lot of use starting in WWII. Later on it was replaced by the 523 (M-1950). The M-1950 was introduced during the Korean conflcit and also used in Vietnam.
Most deffinetly... it was a GI who was fighting back in Nam. It deffinely wasnt military issue, he said his wife sent it to him as a gift.
I'm sure his storys were the same fishing stories we all here... about the fish being "this big". I'm willing to bet the 300ft fall out of a Helo was probably closer to 50 ft =)
BTW, my grand father also had a 1958 colman stove as well... do you have any idea what modles were around then? I belive it was a 500a but I'm not really sure.
The 500 and 500a were single burner stoves with large tanks and pot stand, and another good looking stove. I know the the 500a was still made in '57, so '58 could be right. Heat output is about the same as the 502, but they are very stable and have really good heat control. They are a fine cooking stove, but much too big to pack. Great for car camping, you should grab it if you can. Pretty much any stove from that era is a keeper, and any Coleman can be made to run with minimal work.
After getting his stoves to light i truly belive every story I've ever heard about these 502's. I highly doubt his saw an time overseas. But still for a 58' and 66' stove to sit on a shelf in a shed which leaked like a sive and has been on it's last leg for 20 years then to pull these stoves out and they light up on the first try. That deffinetly say's something.
I just hope with a little TLC, I'll be lucky enough to pass these beuties on to my kids =)
finally a 502 how too video, someone gave me a bunch of these new in box's! I was like how the fuck do i get this thing to work!?
PyR0Star 5 days ago
I like your hand writing :)
9ilest 6 months ago
Bought 1 of the 2 burners from walmart, got it home and it was dented so bad it was unusable, with the burners bent pointing twords the rear. Bought another one from walmart, and the piston wouldnt lock into the closed position, it wouldnt turn and lock. Has to use the tank from the broken one, on the good grill with the broken tank. Even then, very small yellow flame
iLoveMyGun89 6 months ago
can u use any type of fuel or just gasonline
starkilla21 7 months ago
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iLoveMyGun89 6 months ago
@starkilla21 depends on model. Some can use white gas.
RSOPVIDEOS 3 months ago
Good video, The two burner stove segment, you don't need to spin the air valve
around, it only lets air in to help with a cold start, there is no tip cleaner mechanism attached to that lever.
flash178 10 months ago
Where did you get that amazing Nalgene style fuel bottle?
holtzda 10 months ago
Christ I hate those white-gas stoves. My dad and I used to take a Peak 1 up to the Sierras at 10,000 feet and it was always leaking and bursting into flames. Finally got a butane stove and no problems.
Doggieman1111 11 months ago
Big Silly monster
Ramaniac007 1 year ago
Thanks a lot RSOP.... my used 502 can now cook thanks to your clear directions... more power to you... From the philippines with love
yee1st 1 year ago
رائع للرحلات وموفر للبنزين اتمنى لو يأتي معه قمع ( محقن)
vipmaktoob 1 year ago
@vipmaktoob You are welcome, glad it helped.
RSOPVIDEOS 1 year ago
What kind of fuel do you use ? Is it the same one as fuel for a oil lamp?
LetsCook2gether 1 year ago
I just got a dual fuel unit for an emergency stove so this information was very helpful. Thanks.
biscuitfarmer 1 year ago
1) Never tip the stove when filling - you can overfill it.
2) You will need to re-pump very frequently - maybe every 2 minutes - if you run the stove on full power and the tank is full (because the pressure drops quicker in the small airspace as the fuel level falls).
My 550B settles down to a blue flame a bit quicker than these, provided it lights instantly. Even a couple of seconds' gas flow without ignition can make it flood, then it takes ages to settle.
rogerzilla 1 year ago
I just recieved a 442 stove today off ebay. When I went to pump extra pressure in the tank after lighting it, fuel squirted out of the little hole on the pump handle. My hand was soaked with petrol but luckily didn't set fire. I found it quite disconcerting. Could it be something I'm doing wrong or is the stove faulty? It also seems to burn for a long time with a small flame after turning the lever to the off position (about 3 minutes).
CreamPie9uy 1 year ago
@CreamPie9uy Bit of info' to help....the flame glow after turning stove off should be due to the fact there is still air pressure with fuel vapour in the pipe beyond the switch i.e. from switch to flame element where you place pot/pan/cup on burner. The warmer the weather the longer flame will take to fully exstinguish 1-2 mins. Plus make sure the switch (without forcing) is fully tilted to the off where the little metal protrussion is. Cheers
MINDWISEMAN 1 year ago
@CreamPie9uy Having a small flame linger after shutting off the fuel valve is normal with all liquid fuel stove or lantern. Expect a small flame will linger for up to 3 minutes after turning off the device. This is due to fuel and air still remaining in the pipe lines and in the generator beyond the shut-off valve and it needs to fully burn up before it extinguished itself. Fuel squiring out of the pump hole is not normal and I can only guess that the pump cups need to be replaced. Good luck.
westernhunter38 1 year ago
@CreamPie9uy
I know this is a year late, but the fuel squirting out the pump handle sounds like a stuck check valve. This can be a very dangerous thing, and you need to fix it. Check out a Coleman collector's site for instructions. It can usually be fixed by adding one of a few different automotive de-gumming agents.
SansAuthoritas 3 weeks ago
That was well done. Thanks for sharing that.
teejate 1 year ago
This old 502 stove brings back memories. Years ago, I used to carry this heavy stove in my backpack. It had a tendency to blow up. I remember having to deal with flames that were 4 feet high.
MsSpy 1 year ago
@MsSpy The 501 was/is the dangerous stove; the 502 is fine.
hovanti 10 months ago
" Keep face clear of stove" Lol, really? :P
Mueiwark 1 year ago
that 1st Camp Stove was already warm
prickskytte 1 year ago
not sure on that one sorry.
RSOPVIDEOS 2 years ago
Will i be able to use the coleman stove with pure alcohol ?
5b4afq 2 years ago
typically the dual fuel stoves can use anything flammable as long as the fuel will ignite by vapor.
-just recently i used rubbing alcohol and wd-40 as fuel, burns just the same.
BOBKB3NZX 2 years ago
where can i get fuel bottle like that?
kbckiwi 2 years ago
excellent vid
EdVidz 2 years ago
Or you could read the directions on the stove. (1) To light the 502 only open the valve 1/4 turn on starting, let flame turn blue, then open all the way. You will get a blue flame much faster if you do it the right way. (2) The lever on the suitcase stove does not clean the generator, the main control does. The lever lets air mix with fuel for the start up.
beenerboy 2 years ago 2
From your post it appears as though you have a 502. My grandpa had one... he died back in 1998 and it hasnt been used since then. But i recently busted it out and the thing light right up. The only problem is it's a little worse for wear and most of the instructions ect are worn completly off.
You wouldnt happen to know what type or types of fuel it burns would you? I'm assuming it's either Karoseen or Coleman fuel. Seeing as after 10 yearson a shelf it still lit right up =)
SlapNutsPoonJab 2 years ago
Coleman (or camp) fuel only*. Your grandfather left you a nice stove that probably means a lot to you, I hope you enjoy using it. Many would argue that the 502 is the best one-burner stove that Coleman ever made; just not the best for backpacking due to size.
beenerboy 2 years ago
*You are right, Coleman fuel (or equivalent) is going to give the best performance and least trouble. Avoid unleaded gasoline as it will clog up the generator and leave deposits in the fuel tank. Alcohol is too corrosive to metal and rubber gaskets, so don't use that. Kerosene can been used with some success, but it requires preheating the generator, something this stove is not made for. Also kerosene is going cause more carbon to build up in the generator.
beenerboy 2 years ago
On that note, the generator can be cleaned, but be careful taking it apart; spare generators can still be purchased and it might be worth having one on hand. The other part that can sometimes fail is the gasket on the gas cap. If that is getting old you may want to pick up a spare cap (you can also replace the gasket in the old one if you wish but save the old cap even if you don't fix it, it looks better).
beenerboy 2 years ago
Finally, put a few drops of oil (any kind, motor oil, mineral oil, 3 in 1, all ok) down the pump shaft occationally (once per camping trip for example), this is necessary to keep the pump cup flexible and sealing properly. Again, great stove and great memento.
beenerboy 2 years ago
Thanks a ton for the advise!
I'll deffinetly do that, he had quite a few stoves, ect... i just cant belive that the stories I heard were all true about the 502's. I've always heard they will last 100 years and or generations. I've even heard stories about GI's taking them over sea's. And them getting dropped 300ft from or caught in a fire-fight which a tank didnt make it out of the battle... but these little stoves did, and still work to this day.
SlapNutsPoonJab 2 years ago
OK, those stories are probably a bit of a stretch. I doubt the 502 was used by GI's much -- it was strictly civilian as far as I know although some GI's may have used a personal stove. There was another stove, the 520, that did see a lot of use starting in WWII. Later on it was replaced by the 523 (M-1950). The M-1950 was introduced during the Korean conflcit and also used in Vietnam.
beenerboy 2 years ago
Most deffinetly... it was a GI who was fighting back in Nam. It deffinely wasnt military issue, he said his wife sent it to him as a gift.
I'm sure his storys were the same fishing stories we all here... about the fish being "this big". I'm willing to bet the 300ft fall out of a Helo was probably closer to 50 ft =)
BTW, my grand father also had a 1958 colman stove as well... do you have any idea what modles were around then? I belive it was a 500a but I'm not really sure.
SlapNutsPoonJab 2 years ago
The 500 and 500a were single burner stoves with large tanks and pot stand, and another good looking stove. I know the the 500a was still made in '57, so '58 could be right. Heat output is about the same as the 502, but they are very stable and have really good heat control. They are a fine cooking stove, but much too big to pack. Great for car camping, you should grab it if you can. Pretty much any stove from that era is a keeper, and any Coleman can be made to run with minimal work.
beenerboy 2 years ago
After getting his stoves to light i truly belive every story I've ever heard about these 502's. I highly doubt his saw an time overseas. But still for a 58' and 66' stove to sit on a shelf in a shed which leaked like a sive and has been on it's last leg for 20 years then to pull these stoves out and they light up on the first try. That deffinetly say's something.
I just hope with a little TLC, I'll be lucky enough to pass these beuties on to my kids =)
SlapNutsPoonJab 2 years ago
i like the looks of the snowpeak giga stove for compact stoves.
journeyquest1 2 years ago
Other trouble shooting considerations.
Clogged gas generator ( can be stripped and cleaned ) .
Worn gas tips.
Clogged Aif fuel tube in the vlave assembly.
I do like your fire gell idea but I use Methanol
northerbrewer 2 years ago
where did you get that awesome fuel bottle?
flash178 2 years ago
Yes that's the handiest little day can I have ever seen where did he buy it?
northerbrewer 2 years ago
Thanks ofr the info. I just purchased a used stove on ebay for 10 bucks. The video was a help...
Rampid469 3 years ago