Arch Linux - KDE 4.7 RC1 - What's new ?

[cinekcnx]

i like the way you present new features: very quick overview and that's all. I can't stand watching these so damn long presentations and listening to guys trying to express their unnecessary opinions.

[johonunu]

@cinekcnx thank you :)

[Gamerpinomato]

My opinion is Linux sucks and Windows 7 is better

[johonunu]

@Gamerpinomato good for you! Use what you want! Have a good day :P

[lasrocka]

@Gamerpinomato some day you will be able to see the matrix

[Gamerpinomato]

@lasrocka I hav seen the Matrix

[lasrocka]

@Gamerpinomato but you aint the one

[GathGealaich]

@Gamerpinomato That's like saying that rice sucks and potatoes rule. A bit of common sense wouldn't hurt. ;)

[bkroberts89]

It's awesome, but a bitch to set up correctly.

[johonunu]

@bkroberts89 I used to think like you, but take your time, read documentation on how to install Arch on Wiki, and after two times you will see how easy it is :)

[bkroberts89]

I've set it up quite a few times actually. And in comparison to other kernels like Ubuntu etc it's rather annoying to setup. But it's definitely worth the process. It's a lot like Kubuntu, but better and more fluid.

[reafras]

where the hell do you live?

look at the holidays!

[johonunu]

@reafras I live in hell called Montenegro

[ComputerScientist01]

I would also like to ask what the music track is, it's really great. I notice the other guy who asked below ( m1ker) got no response. I only ask because I would like to get it but don't know the artist or track name. Thanks

[johonunu]

@ComputerScientist01 It is one of the songs you can select when you use AudioSwap feature of youtube. It removes audio from your uploaded clip and replace it with song you select. I know that song it is in Electronic/Electro group, but I don't remember the name of the song! Sorry :(

[armageddon9696]

Is there a way to disable new snap borders without turning effects off?

[johonunu]

@armageddon9696 Go to System Settings->Desktop Effects->All Efects and disable "Outline" plugin. Now the snap borders will look like in KDE 4.6.

[linkoovi]

With GNOME 3 I'll definitely go KDE i'm waiting on Mint 11 and Fedora 16 and see whats what

[Zhinkk]

And enjoy the new memory leaks brought in with new versions... only thing that keeps me away from KDE.

[bartjoboy]

Looks nice! Thinking to go install Linux Mint 11 KDE Edition once it is released... got the normal GNOME version right now, but I like the elegance of KDE. :D

[rogeriopazduarte]

gnome is more beautiful

[johonunu]

@rogeriopazduarte That's your opinion, just as my opinion that Gnome 3 sucks ;)

[FrostArcaneMage]

@johonunu I agree that the new Gnome Shell sucks. There is still fallback mode, which I've been running for a while but it has it's problems and limitations. I am considering switching to KDE but I just love GTK too much.

[johonunu]

@FrostArcaneMage I loved Gnome 2, but Gnome Shell is just stupid. It looks like it's made for tablets and not for desktop users. For now I am sticking to KDE, it works great and gets job done :)

[m1cawber1]

@johonunu I agree completely. I've always used gnome until gnome shell came out. Gnome's main focus should be for DESKTOP users just like KDE is for desktops. If they wanted to get into touchscreen/tablet design they should've branched like KDE Active Plasma. Gnome 3 brought me to XFCE (which I've now come to favor over gnome2), but I'll be sticking KDE/AP on my ExoPC. (youtube search "active plasma")

[johonunu]

@m1cawber1 Exactly ! XFCE is very good also :) I heard of KDE Active Plasma, it looks promising!

[josian220]

@FrostArcaneMage You can still use GTK apps. While you are in KDE you are only bounded with plasma for desktop experience, you can choose not to use kde apps.

[FrostArcaneMage]

@josian220 yep, I installed KDE and realized that. KDE is better than I remember it being and it's alot nicer than Gnome3. But I recently decided to install the Gnome 2 Fork, Mate. I'm running it now, it's nice to see Gnome 2 again. Unfortunately it's a one man project so who knows how long it will last and how good it'll be.

[flyboy2000008]

@johonunu It does!

[Marcuz771]

GNOME 3 wallpaper LOL

[m1rker]

What's the name of the music track?

[XareSoft]

i don't know why, but is looks very very ugly

[MisterJ4512]

@XareSoft It's KDE, that's why. Personally, I'm a programmer and I use Qt a lot (a C++ framework) which KDE is based on. But I don't really like to have this KDE bullshit shell. Dunno why, though. Love Arch. Would never change it!

[alejandronova]

KWin has seen the most dramatic improvements: for the first time, blur performance is on par with Windows 7, the new snap is 100x better than the old one, and I haven't even tested KWin GL 2 ES. It's not just KWin, though; memory consumption is somewhat rationalized. We'll have to wait until KDE 4.7.1 though; Nepomuk is under a massive rewrite, and KDE 4.7.0 or 4.7.1 can show a jump in performance and a massive decrease of memory used by Nepomuk.

[princeofpersiaize]

Are there any performance boosts? Has Kwin Improved? Does it use OpenGL es 2.0 now ?

[johonunu]

@princeofpersiaize yes, kde now uses OpenGL ES. On my integrated intel card I don't see that much difference, but someone told me that Nvidia is working great now.

[martin77mdp]

Thanks for the vid!

As for the icons, if you too thinks they are horrible you may revert to 4.6.2 oxygen them or download the *beautiful* Hycons iconset from KDE-Look.org (they're easier on eyes than 4.6.2 oxygen them yet holds of its spirit).

BTW, KDE on Arch y fucking awesome: thanks Andreas and the whole team!

[lNeomito]

Los iconos esta horribles espantosos

[Linux4UnMe]

Most of this is not 4.7 specific new features. I can do all this in 4.6x

[johonunu]

@Linux4UnMe

What of this is not kde 4.7 specific ?

Because I didn't noticed any of this in kde 4.6 or am I wrong ?

[Linux4UnMe]

@johonunu

I am running 4.6.3. I have Snap Boarders, I can minimise the clutter of dolphin like yours on 4.6.4 (mandriva) The Desktop effects settings is the same on 4.6.3... Although just checked again and I havn't got the Kickoff navigation or holidays in calender... i'll have to have another look at 4.6.4 when i boot into it to make sure aswell... (seperate harddrive)

[johonunu]

@Linux4UnMe I know you have snap borders, but snap borders look like black rectangle and not using kde plasma theme. At least not for me. You can hide menubar in dolphin, but does it have screwdriver icon for "google chrome" like menu. I didn't noticed that too in kde 4.6. For desktop settings I am not that sure, it looked different :(

[Linux4UnMe]

@johonunu

looks exactly like this for snap borders for me.... the dolphin thing does have the screw icon thing the same as this on 4.6.4... dunno if mandriva ported the feature from 4.7 though, but it's on 4.6.4. Theres a couple things here I don't have though like the calender holidays and kickoff navigation addon. :)

[johonunu]

@Linux4UnMe thanks for the info :)

[johonunu]

@MrSimpleblue thank you :)

[dmaxel951]

How did you get Firefox to look the way it does in the video?

[johonunu]

@dmaxel951 I use Oxygen KDE Firefox theme. Look it up on kde-look.org ;)

[TuxGnome]

What are the specs of this system ?

[johonunu]

@TuxGnome added to description ;)

[xskydevilx]

Nice little improvements, thanks for the video ;)

[johonunu]

@xskydevilx thanks, you're welcome :)

[rajciok]

how about responsivity? is it fast enough?

[johonunu]

@rajciok It is fast, but my laptop, with Intel HD GMA, is not as fast as my desktop pc is :(