When I was younger I live at the boarding house he ran with his mom. He was a bit eccentric back in 94. I was 16 at the time and had problems at home. I guess the fact that he rented to me shows he did have some good in him.
Kinda sad how quickly people can change. I looked him up on the net and was surprized that he actually had votes. You are giving him more attention then he deserves
Brittany: you think you shouldn't be executed because one day you might have a job or be famous???? Sweetheart, NO ONE should be executed, whether they have a job, or are famous or not, or are gay, straight or bisexual - and for that horrible man to suggest otherwise is horrendous. I hope that he was not elected. No one should have to suffer a creature like him in any kind of a position of power.
music556 (32 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam yea...the reason why ur comment got 7 thumbs up is because u r a tard. fucking faggot! shes just standing up for what she believes in. what part of that dont you understand?
f you are so concerned about what she is standing up for, then why are you referring to me as a "faggot"? hypocrite.
fuck u! ur the tard. shes standing up for not only herself but what she believes in. and she has made alot of very good points! so shut the fuck up and get a life asshole!
yea...the reason why ur comment got 7 thumbs up is because u r a tard. fucking faggot! shes just standing up for what she believes in. what part of that dont you understand?
music556 (32 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam yea...the reason why ur comment got 7 thumbs up is because u r a tard. fucking faggot! shes just standing up for what she believes in. what part of that dont you understand?
f you are so concerned about what she is standing up for, then why are you referring to me as a "faggot"? hypocrite.
ur an ass! just admit to losing this arguement. you're the one who called her a dumb chick. she isnt dumb! shes just standing up for what she believes is right and you dont seem to understand that for i dont know what reason. so just shut the fuck up and admit to losing this god damn arguement.
ill admit you got me when i called u a faggot but you also have to admit that you did call her a dumb chick.
yes, because she is stupid...... fuck. so are you. i did not lose this argument at all since you contradicted yourself... she tries to sound smart but she talks like a tard. so cool man. you must be one cool guy.
"Why should we be executed? Someday we might become something important. Someday we all might have jobs, we all might be famous."
-Are you serious? You shouldn't be executed because you "might" become important? You "might" have a job someday? You "might" become famous? Horrible argument. How about you shouldn't be executed, because you are a human being, and being human entails a far greater value and dignity to a life then "maybe" being famous one day.
She bashes David for believing that all "homosexuals should be executed, but in the very next breath states: "We are canadians. Canadians have free will, we're allowed to have choice. We are allowed to believe in what we want to: god, our parents, our friends, nature even." This is a blatent contradiction, Is David not canadian? Are you saying he doesn't have the freedom to believe what he wants?
I don't think that encompasses enough of the demographic.
David Popescu is a hate monger, and a religious fundamentalist. It is disgusting, and a trite for us who want progressive government. All I can say to you all is, get out there and vote so these bastards can stop holding us under their political or religious views.
we will not be silenced by their hate, and we will show that we care enough about the fortune we have been given...
Brit, there really is no need for you to listen to KirkShelby as she is obviously a self-centered religious bigot, a moron with no political experience (no REAL experience at the very least) or a troll.
Thanks for agreeing with me and the parallel to being an alcoholic. You're born that way. You choose the behaviour you want to follow. Sucking on a bottle of booze, or a body part belonging to the same sex.
Well, anyone who would vote for him is very stupid, not only did he beat up his own mother he LIVES with because he felt she wasn't listening to him, but he was on probation for three years because of that and went for psychological reassessment. Yeah.
So anyone who votes for him wants to vote for a violent, bigotted, mentally unbalances moron.
As I said before, and I'd have said it a million times before people actually realize, taking your religion into politics end up with major fuckups
The credibility of the principal of the school should be reconsidered for not only allowing him to be in the debate but also for letting him anywhere near the students.
You should have read previous comments, they had to invite all candidates, it wasn't their choice in the matter, not that people even knew about Popescu.
The entire concept of FREE SPEECH was created to PROTECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, not INFRINGE on them.
If you choose to use your right to free speech to infringe on the rights of others it's in my view, you must face the legal consequence. This is entirely my individual paradigm, but, holds water in the legal system.
You have the RIGHT to do anything, you have the right to rob a bank and kill a few dozen people too! That doesn't mean that there aren't consequences
(cont.) Picture in your mind harrassment, isn't this by definition protected by freedom of speech and guided by a principle of freedom in the course of action? Sure, I have the right to bash someone into the ground all their lives, but there are legal consequences to it somewhere down the line.
I appreciate your comment, however, I emplore you to look to the underlying meaning of these "few words". If you choose to ignore the bigger picture and stay nestled in the superficial, then absolutely there's nothing to be offended about. Focus on teh macro here, there is a HUGE problem in this man's gay bashing.
Section 7:-How do words deprive you of the right to liberty and security?
Section 15: You misinterpreted it. Basically, everyone is equal under the law, and everyone receives equale benefits from the law. The law cannot discriminate.
Section 26: This basically states that ones right cannot supercede another's rights. If he were to actually kill someone then you have a case. Saying "all homosexuals should be executed" does not hurt any of your rights, you still have all your rights.
Article 1: Yes, all people have the same rights, he is allowed to believe whatever he wants, he is also allowed to say whatever he wants. You also have this right. The last part says we "should" work together, but it doesn't say we must because that would be infringing on our rights.
Article 12: Were you attacked? Or personally offended by his beliefs?
Article 30: Has what he said destroyed your rights and freedoms?
"I appreciate your comment, however, I emplore you to look to the underlying meaning of these "few words". If you choose to ignore the bigger picture and stay nestled in the superficial, then absolutely there's nothing to be offended about. Focus on teh macro here, there is a HUGE problem in this man's gay bashing."
Point of emphasis: bigger picture.
Look beyond the saying, look at the REAL issue here and not just interpretive bias. All of these sections have to do with the underlying meaning.
how does him saying this infringe or hurt you in any way
This is ridiculous, speak for yourself ok? Maybe, in your world view, words are infinitely painless for YOU. Try to show some fucking empathy! Imagine if you will dealing with oppression daily for just being yourself. Regardless of dogmatic principle, regardless of pious bullshit- it is HARD.
Would you tell a black person not to be offended by the n-word? No. Would you tell a Jew not to be fearful of neo-nazis or Islamic extremists? No.
We are talking about an oppressed people when it comes to LGBT peoples. Not only is your suggestion that HATE SPEECH is tolerable offensive, it's so unrealistic it hurts! If straight people were on the receiving end of oppression, don't you think they would feel the exact same way? It's universal- oppressed people will behave in a way relative to their oppression.
Open your eyes man. What you're saying completely lacks empathy.. it's frightening that you even have this view.
"We are talking about an oppressed people when it comes to LGBT peoples."
-Homosexuals have equal rights, so I don't know what you're talking about.
"Not only is your suggestion that HATE SPEECH is tolerable offensive, it's so unrealistic it hurts!"
-Woah, I didn't say we should tolerate it, I said free speech should be free to all the way. You don't have to tolerate it, but to say that a person is not allowed to say something because it offends you is wrong.
"Sure they're macro level issues, they're just not the underlying PROBLEM."
-The underlying problem in this case would be religion. Ask yourself, where is it that david gets this belief?
"The underlying issue is lack of total equality. "
-Wrong. Equality is set for everyone. Homosexuals are guaranteed to be equal as everyone under the charter. The issue is where these beliefs come from.
Even then, can you explain how equality is the issue?
No, I'm advocating CHANGE, PROGRSS, HUMANISM AND SOCIAL JUSTICE. Major difference =)
Sure ok, I'll fold. IN THEORY, homosexuals are equals. That's why i can't walk down the street holding hands with my boyfriend for fear that I will have the shit kicked out of me. That's why at every turn, I'm being told that I barely deserve to live, that I'm a nonhuman and that I'm ill by extremists that read a book and now think they're experts on the art of living.
And because I'm so equal, I'm afraid to tell people my sexuality because they might shun me or some people may even verbally or worse physically attack me. It's also why people still have the nerve to debate about my rights as a human being.
Yep. Our society is paradise.
Get what I'm saying? It's one thing to have it on paper and another for society to actually follow it. What good are constitutions or charters if they're not even followed? They don't just have inherent value from the get go.
-I have empathy, you were offended. But since when do you have a right not to be offended? Just because you're offended, he shouldn't have the right to speak? If this was the case, speaking wouldn't exist since everyone is offended by something all the time.
"Would you tell a black person not to be offended by the n-word? "
-I didn't say you shouldn't be offended, I said that just because you are offended doesn't mean a person is not allowed to say it
"type of paradigm is DANGEROUS. It tries to take away ALL rights"
-Yes, a theocracy is a dangerous thing, just look at the middle east. But what is the thing that allows a theocracy to exist in the first place?
"I'm not going to validate you refusing to look at the deeper issues. "
-You stop at equality. I go on to look at: Freedom of speech, Freedom of Religion, and Religion itself. Whose perspective is more broad? The type of equality your talking about is communism.
Now I'm not going to argue politics with you, so don't bother. And the freedom of speech, freedom of religion- now you're just talking in circles, I've already stated: it is in my view and in the view of the charter of rights and freedoms that one right is not to interfere with another right.
It's been a great conversation, sadly, it's gone nowhere.
If you would like to remove your dualistic lense for a short moment and continue this chat, feel free.
" it is in my view and in the view of the charter of rights and freedoms that one right is not to interfere with another right"
-Exactly! And he has not interfered in any one of your rights. You still have your right to life, your right to free conscience, etc. All you rights are still intact, even at the moment he said this. However, if you were to enact a law that stopped him from saying this, you'd infringe on his right to speech and religion.
"Look beyond the saying, look at the REAL issue here and not just interpretive bias"
-Ok, the real issue? Religion, Freedom of religion and Freedom of Speech. These are the macro level issues to look at. By you telling him that he shouldn't be saying that and lets say you enforce it on him, then you are infringing on his freedom of religion, and freedom of speech.
Religion, freedom of speech. Sure they're macro level issues, they're just not the underlying PROBLEM. The problem is that this man, and people like him are completely unwilling to dispose of tribal mentality and dualistic thinking. The problem is that this paradigm is still a majority and yet they, the majority, still see themselves as victims and lash out at everyone else. Slightly ironic isn't it? The underlying issue is lack of total equality.
Popescu won't get any votes. He is not representative of Canada's state of affairs. Not to mention the fact that he sounds like an absolute nut job straight out of the Westboro baptist church, and is also in violation, under Canadian law, of a hate crime.
You are right. This isn't about choice.Its about a behaviour.One a person partakes in or doesn't.Gay,like alcoholism, you are born with it. You chose to drink or not to. Same as homosexuality.You have gay sex, or you chose to follow the natural order of propagation of the species. Popescu has the right to state his views based on his religion.THAT is where he has protection under free speech. Get over yourself Brit.If it wasn't for your straight parents, you wouldn't be alive.
That's funny. Cause it says you are 41 on your profile. I DOUBT your a teacher at that school. and I DOUBT a student's there that is 41 years of age... and if they are, im pretty sure high school isn't the suitable place to be.
So you're probably a teen there (or a troll) and if you're lying about your age, I hope you know you can be banned for that, idiot.
KirkShelby. I don't mind him speaking his views, but at least he should get his facts straight. If he really studied the bible, and wants to take it literally he would be in for a surprise. The literal translation does not contain comments about homosexuality. Reseach answers a lot of questions.
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Homosexuality is a choice. Its not a defect and its not something you are born with. If one guy likes women all his life and decides to experiment with men and likes that more then becomes gay, that is a choice, he is not "born with gayness" I've known Gay men before and a few lesbians. they work their way into the sexuality and figure it out what they like better and then make the choice. Or they can say they like both and be bi sexual. it is a choice. and also David Popescu is a douche!
Some people are born with it, it's simply a matter of discovering themselves. But, I totally agree with the idea of homosexuality and bisexuality being a choice for some.
I've met many straight people and many gay people, and not one told me it was a choice. I have read about some who made a choice, so I buy that a choice can be made sometimes, but most people are not able to choose. They just are. I think in many cases, where the choice comes in is in deciding how much abuse they want to take for being honest, in areas where there is little support.
Even nut cases are allowed to have an opinion when you give them the platform to do so. And remember, the bible does say Homosexuals should be executed so what he was saying is not a hate crime but rather his interpretation of what the bible says.
Perhaps next time you'll be better informed about who you allow to speak at your school. If you don't agree with them, don't invite them. I dislike socialist so I'll never dine with one. It's a matter of choice and being informed.
You are a complete idiot Brit. Way to uphold the moronic trait of you name. The same freedoms you yak about also give Popescu the same right to voice his religious view. Your totally manufactured stat that the majority of students are homos at Sud.Sec. further shows how ignorant and immature you are. When you move out of your parent's trailer, you will see how the real world works. Go back to your colouring class jerk.
As a matter of fact he's being charged with a hate crime for his uncalled for comments. When freedom of speech infringes on other people rights and freedoms it becomes a crime. His comment can also be taken as a threat as the Greater Sudbury Police have stated about the case. As a matter of fact, there are a large number of homosexuals at Sudbury Secondary School, though nobody really cares as we are an accepting and nurturing school. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone madam.
He's NOT GETTING CHARGED. There is an investigation. The decision to lay a charge in Hate Crimes is with the Attorney General, moron.When it comes to gays and sin, be careful where you put your words.
Freedom of speech only applies as long as others rights are not in jeopardy. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms have many sections that may overlap, (fredom of speech vs. freedom of expression) but its not so much his views that people are pissed about, its the fact that he is publicly trying to warp peoples minds into homophobia and hatred, and saying something like "gays should be executed" at a high school that had such a well known rep for homosexuality and acceptance is simply uncalled for.
You are a complete idiot Kirk. Way to uphold the moronic trait of you name. The same freedoms you yak about also give the homosexuals the same right to be protected from hate crimes and threats to their lives. The stat was actually not manufactured, though you wouldn't know being a 41 year old, the attempt at debunking it further shows how ignorant and immature you are. When you move out of your 60-some year old mother's trailer, you will see how the real world works. Get laid, shithead.
Plagiarism? Way to prove how shallow and stupid you truly are. Wake up and join the real world. Your lack of originality and foul language only further discredits your childish position. Get laid? lol!
Plagiarism? Lack of originality? Is that what you call it? Actually I just showed how I could use your words and totally provce how your the stupid one. Foul language makes one childish? Well, I'd consider what your talking about Brittany very foul and derogatory.
And yes, you do need to get laid. That or get educated. If you think Popescu is the victim you are not only ignorant but obviously pretty homophobic too.
You obviously don't know how the law system works. LOL
I agree with TwilightxStarlight. I think sexuality isn't a choice, and most of us (admit it or not) choose our partner primarily based on sexuality. That's why most people choose opposite-sex partners. But for a few people, maybe with a lower sex drive, sexual attraction isn't the main factor, and there's nothing wrong with a straight person finding love with someone of the same-sex, or a gay person finding love with someone opposite. It's unusual, but if love happens we should support it.
Got a campaign dvd for him. Basically 4 hours of him staring at a camera and asking Jesus to kill people.
[SARCASM] Nice guy. [/SARCASM]
goose1212343 1 year ago
When I was younger I live at the boarding house he ran with his mom. He was a bit eccentric back in 94. I was 16 at the time and had problems at home. I guess the fact that he rented to me shows he did have some good in him.
Kinda sad how quickly people can change. I looked him up on the net and was surprized that he actually had votes. You are giving him more attention then he deserves
efrantila 1 year ago
fuck your fucked mother you are a big gay and homosexual ordinary girl.
TheBossOfAsus 1 year ago
Brittany: you think you shouldn't be executed because one day you might have a job or be famous???? Sweetheart, NO ONE should be executed, whether they have a job, or are famous or not, or are gay, straight or bisexual - and for that horrible man to suggest otherwise is horrendous. I hope that he was not elected. No one should have to suffer a creature like him in any kind of a position of power.
AuntieDiluvian 2 years ago 6
fortunately he didnt get elected. only a handfull of people vote for him every election he runs for.
music556 2 years ago
David popusco is freaking gay if i find him ill make sure he pays for what he did...................
whatdaquack 3 years ago
music556 (32 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam yea...the reason why ur comment got 7 thumbs up is because u r a tard. fucking faggot! shes just standing up for what she believes in. what part of that dont you understand?
f you are so concerned about what she is standing up for, then why are you referring to me as a "faggot"? hypocrite.
piano522 3 years ago
i completely agree!
music556 3 years ago
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piano522 3 years ago 10
fuck u! ur the tard. shes standing up for not only herself but what she believes in. and she has made alot of very good points! so shut the fuck up and get a life asshole!
music556 3 years ago
annd thats why my comment got the 7 thumbs up... you are in the tard crew
piano522 3 years ago 2
yea...the reason why ur comment got 7 thumbs up is because u r a tard. fucking faggot! shes just standing up for what she believes in. what part of that dont you understand?
music556 3 years ago
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music556 (32 minutes ago) Show Hide 0 Marked as spam Reply | Spam yea...the reason why ur comment got 7 thumbs up is because u r a tard. fucking faggot! shes just standing up for what she believes in. what part of that dont you understand?
f you are so concerned about what she is standing up for, then why are you referring to me as a "faggot"? hypocrite.
piano522 3 years ago 2
ur an ass! just admit to losing this arguement. you're the one who called her a dumb chick. she isnt dumb! shes just standing up for what she believes is right and you dont seem to understand that for i dont know what reason. so just shut the fuck up and admit to losing this god damn arguement.
ill admit you got me when i called u a faggot but you also have to admit that you did call her a dumb chick.
music556 3 years ago
yes, because she is stupid...... fuck. so are you. i did not lose this argument at all since you contradicted yourself... she tries to sound smart but she talks like a tard. so cool man. you must be one cool guy.
piano522 3 years ago 7
You should really scrap this video and rethink your arguments.
CommonReason 3 years ago
"Why should we be executed? Someday we might become something important. Someday we all might have jobs, we all might be famous."
-Are you serious? You shouldn't be executed because you "might" become important? You "might" have a job someday? You "might" become famous? Horrible argument. How about you shouldn't be executed, because you are a human being, and being human entails a far greater value and dignity to a life then "maybe" being famous one day.
CommonReason 3 years ago
She bashes David for believing that all "homosexuals should be executed, but in the very next breath states: "We are canadians. Canadians have free will, we're allowed to have choice. We are allowed to believe in what we want to: god, our parents, our friends, nature even." This is a blatent contradiction, Is David not canadian? Are you saying he doesn't have the freedom to believe what he wants?
CommonReason 3 years ago
David popescu!You have violated the Canadian charter of human rights.Jailtime for advocating hatred towards those of different sexual orientation.
RebelsLiberator 3 years ago
"we are Canadians, we have free will"
I don't think that encompasses enough of the demographic.
David Popescu is a hate monger, and a religious fundamentalist. It is disgusting, and a trite for us who want progressive government. All I can say to you all is, get out there and vote so these bastards can stop holding us under their political or religious views.
we will not be silenced by their hate, and we will show that we care enough about the fortune we have been given...
TwilightOfThisIdol 3 years ago
vote David Popescu!!!!
waldotheduck1 3 years ago
Audio is out of sync, black and white, blurry and spotty. A bit more effort and it could have been better.
waldotheduck1 3 years ago
Brit, there really is no need for you to listen to KirkShelby as she is obviously a self-centered religious bigot, a moron with no political experience (no REAL experience at the very least) or a troll.
pluubooruu 3 years ago
He's getting a lot of sympathy votes now. Protest votes and anti-brit types will flock to him to prove a point.
Good!
KirkShelby 3 years ago
Sympathy votes. LMFAO don't make me lau... err to late...
pluubooruu 3 years ago
Thanks for agreeing with me and the parallel to being an alcoholic. You're born that way. You choose the behaviour you want to follow. Sucking on a bottle of booze, or a body part belonging to the same sex.
KirkShelby 3 years ago
Just like you're born stupid.
pluubooruu 3 years ago
Does he or has he ever had a slightest chance to get elected? Didn't he beat up his own mother?
mgginn5 3 years ago
Well, anyone who would vote for him is very stupid, not only did he beat up his own mother he LIVES with because he felt she wasn't listening to him, but he was on probation for three years because of that and went for psychological reassessment. Yeah.
So anyone who votes for him wants to vote for a violent, bigotted, mentally unbalances moron.
As I said before, and I'd have said it a million times before people actually realize, taking your religion into politics end up with major fuckups
pluubooruu 3 years ago 2
The credibility of the principal of the school should be reconsidered for not only allowing him to be in the debate but also for letting him anywhere near the students.
mgginn5 3 years ago 3
You should have read previous comments, they had to invite all candidates, it wasn't their choice in the matter, not that people even knew about Popescu.
pluubooruu 3 years ago
I've said it once, I'll say it again:
The entire concept of FREE SPEECH was created to PROTECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, not INFRINGE on them.
If you choose to use your right to free speech to infringe on the rights of others it's in my view, you must face the legal consequence. This is entirely my individual paradigm, but, holds water in the legal system.
You have the RIGHT to do anything, you have the right to rob a bank and kill a few dozen people too! That doesn't mean that there aren't consequences
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
(cont.) Picture in your mind harrassment, isn't this by definition protected by freedom of speech and guided by a principle of freedom in the course of action? Sure, I have the right to bash someone into the ground all their lives, but there are legal consequences to it somewhere down the line.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
'The entire concept of FREE SPEECH was created to PROTECT PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, not INFRINGE on them. "
-Which of your rights did Popescu infringe by saying a few words?
Do you have the right not to be offended?
CommonReason 3 years ago
To CommonReason:
Canadian Charter of rights and freedoms
Section 7
Section 15; sub 1, 2
Section 26
Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 1
Article 12
Article 30
I appreciate your comment, however, I emplore you to look to the underlying meaning of these "few words". If you choose to ignore the bigger picture and stay nestled in the superficial, then absolutely there's nothing to be offended about. Focus on teh macro here, there is a HUGE problem in this man's gay bashing.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
Section 7:-How do words deprive you of the right to liberty and security?
Section 15: You misinterpreted it. Basically, everyone is equal under the law, and everyone receives equale benefits from the law. The law cannot discriminate.
Section 26: This basically states that ones right cannot supercede another's rights. If he were to actually kill someone then you have a case. Saying "all homosexuals should be executed" does not hurt any of your rights, you still have all your rights.
CommonReason 3 years ago
Article 1: Yes, all people have the same rights, he is allowed to believe whatever he wants, he is also allowed to say whatever he wants. You also have this right. The last part says we "should" work together, but it doesn't say we must because that would be infringing on our rights.
Article 12: Were you attacked? Or personally offended by his beliefs?
Article 30: Has what he said destroyed your rights and freedoms?
CommonReason 3 years ago
"I appreciate your comment, however, I emplore you to look to the underlying meaning of these "few words". If you choose to ignore the bigger picture and stay nestled in the superficial, then absolutely there's nothing to be offended about. Focus on teh macro here, there is a HUGE problem in this man's gay bashing."
Point of emphasis: bigger picture.
Look beyond the saying, look at the REAL issue here and not just interpretive bias. All of these sections have to do with the underlying meaning.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
If I must: the real issue here is equality. Extremist conservative paradigms restrict personal liberty and total equality.
Yes, superficially, it's just words... nothing here can really hurt you.
Isn't the world we live in just peachy? Words have no effect on anyone... Yeah... bullshit.
Now, moving on to something a little bit more realistic- this type of paradigm is DANGEROUS. It tries to take away ALL rights.
Sorry, but I'm not going to validate you refusing to look at the deeper issues.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
"If I must: the real issue here is equality"
-You're right, he is equal to you in the sense that he has the right to voice his opinion.
"Extremist conservative paradigms restrict personal liberty and total equality"
-That they do, but where does david get his world view from? Would that be one of the main issues to consider?
"Words have no effect on anyone... Yeah... bullshit."
-Again, how does him saying this infringe or hurt you in any way?
CommonReason 3 years ago
how does him saying this infringe or hurt you in any way
This is ridiculous, speak for yourself ok? Maybe, in your world view, words are infinitely painless for YOU. Try to show some fucking empathy! Imagine if you will dealing with oppression daily for just being yourself. Regardless of dogmatic principle, regardless of pious bullshit- it is HARD.
Would you tell a black person not to be offended by the n-word? No. Would you tell a Jew not to be fearful of neo-nazis or Islamic extremists? No.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
We are talking about an oppressed people when it comes to LGBT peoples. Not only is your suggestion that HATE SPEECH is tolerable offensive, it's so unrealistic it hurts! If straight people were on the receiving end of oppression, don't you think they would feel the exact same way? It's universal- oppressed people will behave in a way relative to their oppression.
Open your eyes man. What you're saying completely lacks empathy.. it's frightening that you even have this view.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
"We are talking about an oppressed people when it comes to LGBT peoples."
-Homosexuals have equal rights, so I don't know what you're talking about.
"Not only is your suggestion that HATE SPEECH is tolerable offensive, it's so unrealistic it hurts!"
-Woah, I didn't say we should tolerate it, I said free speech should be free to all the way. You don't have to tolerate it, but to say that a person is not allowed to say something because it offends you is wrong.
CommonReason 3 years ago
You're basically advocating censorship.
"Sure they're macro level issues, they're just not the underlying PROBLEM."
-The underlying problem in this case would be religion. Ask yourself, where is it that david gets this belief?
"The underlying issue is lack of total equality. "
-Wrong. Equality is set for everyone. Homosexuals are guaranteed to be equal as everyone under the charter. The issue is where these beliefs come from.
Even then, can you explain how equality is the issue?
CommonReason 3 years ago
No, I'm advocating CHANGE, PROGRSS, HUMANISM AND SOCIAL JUSTICE. Major difference =)
Sure ok, I'll fold. IN THEORY, homosexuals are equals. That's why i can't walk down the street holding hands with my boyfriend for fear that I will have the shit kicked out of me. That's why at every turn, I'm being told that I barely deserve to live, that I'm a nonhuman and that I'm ill by extremists that read a book and now think they're experts on the art of living.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
And because I'm so equal, I'm afraid to tell people my sexuality because they might shun me or some people may even verbally or worse physically attack me. It's also why people still have the nerve to debate about my rights as a human being.
Yep. Our society is paradise.
Get what I'm saying? It's one thing to have it on paper and another for society to actually follow it. What good are constitutions or charters if they're not even followed? They don't just have inherent value from the get go.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
"Try to show some fucking empathy! "
-I have empathy, you were offended. But since when do you have a right not to be offended? Just because you're offended, he shouldn't have the right to speak? If this was the case, speaking wouldn't exist since everyone is offended by something all the time.
"Would you tell a black person not to be offended by the n-word? "
-I didn't say you shouldn't be offended, I said that just because you are offended doesn't mean a person is not allowed to say it
CommonReason 3 years ago
"type of paradigm is DANGEROUS. It tries to take away ALL rights"
-Yes, a theocracy is a dangerous thing, just look at the middle east. But what is the thing that allows a theocracy to exist in the first place?
"I'm not going to validate you refusing to look at the deeper issues. "
-You stop at equality. I go on to look at: Freedom of speech, Freedom of Religion, and Religion itself. Whose perspective is more broad? The type of equality your talking about is communism.
CommonReason 3 years ago
Not communism, Social democracy =)
Now I'm not going to argue politics with you, so don't bother. And the freedom of speech, freedom of religion- now you're just talking in circles, I've already stated: it is in my view and in the view of the charter of rights and freedoms that one right is not to interfere with another right.
It's been a great conversation, sadly, it's gone nowhere.
If you would like to remove your dualistic lense for a short moment and continue this chat, feel free.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
" it is in my view and in the view of the charter of rights and freedoms that one right is not to interfere with another right"
-Exactly! And he has not interfered in any one of your rights. You still have your right to life, your right to free conscience, etc. All you rights are still intact, even at the moment he said this. However, if you were to enact a law that stopped him from saying this, you'd infringe on his right to speech and religion.
CommonReason 3 years ago
"Look beyond the saying, look at the REAL issue here and not just interpretive bias"
-Ok, the real issue? Religion, Freedom of religion and Freedom of Speech. These are the macro level issues to look at. By you telling him that he shouldn't be saying that and lets say you enforce it on him, then you are infringing on his freedom of religion, and freedom of speech.
CommonReason 3 years ago
Again, you are staying on the safe side.
Religion, freedom of speech. Sure they're macro level issues, they're just not the underlying PROBLEM. The problem is that this man, and people like him are completely unwilling to dispose of tribal mentality and dualistic thinking. The problem is that this paradigm is still a majority and yet they, the majority, still see themselves as victims and lash out at everyone else. Slightly ironic isn't it? The underlying issue is lack of total equality.
GeneticIdentity101 3 years ago
This video is pretty much redundant. I am sure he would have not been voted in regardless.
RADICLAW 3 years ago
Popescu won't get any votes. He is not representative of Canada's state of affairs. Not to mention the fact that he sounds like an absolute nut job straight out of the Westboro baptist church, and is also in violation, under Canadian law, of a hate crime.
arshsingh1984 3 years ago
You are right. This isn't about choice.Its about a behaviour.One a person partakes in or doesn't.Gay,like alcoholism, you are born with it. You chose to drink or not to. Same as homosexuality.You have gay sex, or you chose to follow the natural order of propagation of the species. Popescu has the right to state his views based on his religion.THAT is where he has protection under free speech. Get over yourself Brit.If it wasn't for your straight parents, you wouldn't be alive.
KirkShelby 3 years ago
I'm not even gay, or bi. I just really
Dislike discrimination, as well as I have
Plenty of bisexual friends who were hurt by him.
TwilightxStarlight 3 years ago
And yet the majority of people (straight) weren't hurt at all.
KirkShelby 3 years ago
You would know this? You were there?
That's funny. Cause it says you are 41 on your profile. I DOUBT your a teacher at that school. and I DOUBT a student's there that is 41 years of age... and if they are, im pretty sure high school isn't the suitable place to be.
So you're probably a teen there (or a troll) and if you're lying about your age, I hope you know you can be banned for that, idiot.
So which one was it?
pluubooruu 3 years ago
KirkShelby. I don't mind him speaking his views, but at least he should get his facts straight. If he really studied the bible, and wants to take it literally he would be in for a surprise. The literal translation does not contain comments about homosexuality. Reseach answers a lot of questions.
ericthatsme1 3 years ago
You need to invest in a digital camera with video capability.
roadbound2008 3 years ago
I have one. This was editted to look bad...
I don't plain videos, I like editted ones.
The audio problem was my computer, not the camera.
TwilightxStarlight 3 years ago
She needs to invest in a reality check first.
KirkShelby 3 years ago
Really? You probably need one.
pluubooruu 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Homosexuality is a choice. Its not a defect and its not something you are born with. If one guy likes women all his life and decides to experiment with men and likes that more then becomes gay, that is a choice, he is not "born with gayness" I've known Gay men before and a few lesbians. they work their way into the sexuality and figure it out what they like better and then make the choice. Or they can say they like both and be bi sexual. it is a choice. and also David Popescu is a douche!
Jake151992 3 years ago
Some people are born with it, it's simply a matter of discovering themselves. But, I totally agree with the idea of homosexuality and bisexuality being a choice for some.
Marlee616263 3 years ago
I've met many straight people and many gay people, and not one told me it was a choice. I have read about some who made a choice, so I buy that a choice can be made sometimes, but most people are not able to choose. They just are. I think in many cases, where the choice comes in is in deciding how much abuse they want to take for being honest, in areas where there is little support.
rg0057 3 years ago
Hey, way to go, Britt.
This is Shala, BTW, not her sister. Lol.
Yesterday was way scary, but I definitely think it helped to bring our school together in a way, eh?
mikayla2893 3 years ago
Oh, definitely! I've never seen everyone in
Our school so passionate about the same thing
At one time (other than RENT in grade nine). =P
TwilightxStarlight 3 years ago
Even nut cases are allowed to have an opinion when you give them the platform to do so. And remember, the bible does say Homosexuals should be executed so what he was saying is not a hate crime but rather his interpretation of what the bible says.
Perhaps next time you'll be better informed about who you allow to speak at your school. If you don't agree with them, don't invite them. I dislike socialist so I'll never dine with one. It's a matter of choice and being informed.
RenegadeRussell 3 years ago
Due to fairness, we were required to invite
ALL the candidates...as well, the students had
No say in this...the teachers invited the speakers.
TwilightxStarlight 3 years ago
maybe he has homosexual tendencies and is in denial????
heyluce 3 years ago
You are a complete idiot Brit. Way to uphold the moronic trait of you name. The same freedoms you yak about also give Popescu the same right to voice his religious view. Your totally manufactured stat that the majority of students are homos at Sud.Sec. further shows how ignorant and immature you are. When you move out of your parent's trailer, you will see how the real world works. Go back to your colouring class jerk.
KirkShelby 3 years ago
As a matter of fact he's being charged with a hate crime for his uncalled for comments. When freedom of speech infringes on other people rights and freedoms it becomes a crime. His comment can also be taken as a threat as the Greater Sudbury Police have stated about the case. As a matter of fact, there are a large number of homosexuals at Sudbury Secondary School, though nobody really cares as we are an accepting and nurturing school. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone madam.
MistakenIdentityJen 3 years ago
He's NOT GETTING CHARGED. There is an investigation. The decision to lay a charge in Hate Crimes is with the Attorney General, moron.When it comes to gays and sin, be careful where you put your words.
KirkShelby 3 years ago
lol.
lol.
lol.
I'm pretty sure the law doesn't care about "sin".
pluubooruu 3 years ago 2
Freedom of speech only applies as long as others rights are not in jeopardy. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms have many sections that may overlap, (fredom of speech vs. freedom of expression) but its not so much his views that people are pissed about, its the fact that he is publicly trying to warp peoples minds into homophobia and hatred, and saying something like "gays should be executed" at a high school that had such a well known rep for homosexuality and acceptance is simply uncalled for.
Marlee616263 3 years ago
You are a complete idiot Kirk. Way to uphold the moronic trait of you name. The same freedoms you yak about also give the homosexuals the same right to be protected from hate crimes and threats to their lives. The stat was actually not manufactured, though you wouldn't know being a 41 year old, the attempt at debunking it further shows how ignorant and immature you are. When you move out of your 60-some year old mother's trailer, you will see how the real world works. Get laid, shithead.
pluubooruu 3 years ago
Plagiarism? Way to prove how shallow and stupid you truly are. Wake up and join the real world. Your lack of originality and foul language only further discredits your childish position. Get laid? lol!
KirkShelby 3 years ago
LOL
Plagiarism? Lack of originality? Is that what you call it? Actually I just showed how I could use your words and totally provce how your the stupid one. Foul language makes one childish? Well, I'd consider what your talking about Brittany very foul and derogatory.
And yes, you do need to get laid. That or get educated. If you think Popescu is the victim you are not only ignorant but obviously pretty homophobic too.
You obviously don't know how the law system works. LOL
pluubooruu 3 years ago
OK first of all, I saw something about this in the Northern Life. I expected to see actual video of Popescu speaking at the debate...
Second, don't worry. He'll never get elected. In '06, he got a whopping 76 votes when he ran for mayor.
bulshoy 3 years ago 2
brittany......
its not a choice your born that way -__-
anyway yea david popescue is a douche.
pokefan666 3 years ago 2
Read my fucking replies, I already know that.
I was caught up in saying things about the
Right to choose, and kinda put everything in that.
What I'm saying is that you don't choose to
Be gay but we should be able to choose our
Lovers rather than let someone else tell us who to love.
TwilightxStarlight 3 years ago
Not only once did you say homosexuality is a choice...but TWICE!
kkrangg 3 years ago
"If we CHOOSE to be homosexual or bisexual" So you're saying it's a choice then?
RADICLAW 3 years ago
No, I'm not, but these days people do choose.
And plus, it's not necessrily that I'm saying
We choose to be gay...but that we can love who
We want to...and if a man wants to love a man,
Let him do it...there's no problem there.
TwilightxStarlight 3 years ago
"No, I'm not, but these days people do choose."
-So you're not saying "we choose", but these days people do choose?... Wtf?
"And plus, it's not necessrily that I'm saying
We choose to be gay"
-But you just said that :-S
"but that we can love who"
-Saying you choose to be homosexual and that you can choose who you can love are two very different things.
"We want to...and if a man wants to love a man,"
-This implies "choice".
CommonReason 3 years ago
I agree with TwilightxStarlight. I think sexuality isn't a choice, and most of us (admit it or not) choose our partner primarily based on sexuality. That's why most people choose opposite-sex partners. But for a few people, maybe with a lower sex drive, sexual attraction isn't the main factor, and there's nothing wrong with a straight person finding love with someone of the same-sex, or a gay person finding love with someone opposite. It's unusual, but if love happens we should support it.
rg0057 3 years ago
Way to go brittany!!
sangoscaresmiroku 3 years ago
YAYA brittany!!!
pluubooruu 3 years ago
Way to go Brit!
bmccull 3 years ago