Im a Mac/PS3 fanboy i also sort of like windows making me a PC fanboy as well
Well i have no source but its easy to figure out. Of the 8 SPE's on the cell 6 are useable by a game developer so 6 of 8 = 75% and please take into account that when they say 90% of the power includes the gpu too not just the cell
I will look up the PSP hardware. If this is true then Sony will most likely unlock the last SPE when games get really advanced. I am guessing when games need to be run at 1080p/120fps or more....
90% to be precise.................. The last 10% is for Gears of War 2 XD , but Microsucks is still lying to the people by saying "It'S just 40% of the machine...... But MGS4 used 35% of the PS3 and the graphics of MGS4 is so better than Gears of War 3 times to be precise.... And i'm not talking about the Cell, XDR RAM @ 3.2GHZ.
I'm not working in computers, processors, etc... But I know a lot about processors capacities and power.
The thing about consoles is that because the hardware never changes games can and do look better and better throughout the consoles life cycle. The PS2 was weak as hell, but look at God of War. Developers find ways to squeeze more and more out of the hardware in the consoles the more they work with them.
You really don't know much. There is no source saying MGS4 uses 35% of the PS3. Any claim like that is just marketing hype. Sony is the one who always makes claims like that. The 360 has a better GPU while the PS3 has a better CPU
tyserx is right about this "gears of war taped over 90% of the 360's potential, the ps3 hasn't even gotten passed 30 % yet... the truth is, no developer has the amount of content it whould take to max out the hardware on ps3."... Maybe you're a Microsucks Fan Boy
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"Sony fanboys are the most amusing of all the fanboys. It's as if the PS3 is some sort of *top secret* hardware "puzzle" that developers have to "figure out." "Once they crack the code and unlock the 'secret' power of the PS3, then we'll see how much the 360 sucks."
another xbox360 fanboy, you think the cell will be exploited so early?, ignorance is bliss aint it?, xenon on the other hand, the 360 has already been taped into. Cell is the benchmark. The Cell is basically a "Puzzle", and no,the 360 is a great console,i was playing halo 3 not long ago,saved a nice video to haha, its morons like you who assume that if a console is more powerfull its better, like your imature comment just there with attempted sarcasim
your oficially the youtube idiot, insomniac moved alot of the codes to the SPES, with 8spes running at 3.2ghz, you would be insane not to use them, by moving the code to the spes,you free up the gpu for more effects and lighting, noob ;)
The Playstation 3 is only one console with only 6,5 million users.
PC x86 has some billion users.
PC PPC (without cell technology) has more than 6,5 million users.
So programmer have to learn only for one console (PC and Xbox 360 have 70% or more share in the market. Think about the world of warcraft players 9 Million users 2,5 m. more than ps3 users with only ONE PC game) for one thing and only writing games a new way to code. That is insane in my opinion.
Code Masters, Sierra, and Starbreeze Studios are just a few examples of developers who are releasing software across both platforms. If a developer can write software for the Cell, writing the same code for a PC or Xbox is cake. Its much less complicated. The only time it is going to be code that will run on the PS3 and not the Cell is when the hardware on the Cell is being used more heavily, and the Xbox 360 just cant keep up. That won't happen for some time though.
The Xbox 360 can keep it up but you have to code the program in a different way.
The GPU in the ps3 is to weak for the cell processor. So PS3 will have a better AI than the Xbox 360 (harder is not always more fun) and perhaps more players in the multiplayer but no better graphics.
"and perhaps more players in the multiplayer" you know nothing about mutltiplayer Colamix666
"So PS3 will have a better AI than the Xbox 360"Assassins creed for the 360 has better AI than the PS3,they maxed out the PS3 processor already what a shame.
Oh and blue ray isnt needed yet,and its been a year and no good console selling exclusives.
If you knew anything about the PS3, you would know the processor is still untapped. The most any game has used so far is uncharted with 30% of the processor.
really,so your a game programmer are you?, how do you know the RSX is weaker than the 360 GPU,have you exploited both yourself?, your attempted 360 propaganda is alil to obvious kid.
Absolutely. I think [PS3 is] a waste of everybody's time. Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created. I don't think they're going to make money off their box. I don't think it's a good solution.
Your ignorant as they come, and entirely wrong. MIT, Virginia Tech, and some of the best technical universities there are have courses based around the Cell. If you can write code for the Cell, you can write for any hardware available, and hardware that Intel and AMD are developing which have graphics and general purpose cores on a single chip. It is the highest standard in technology, and any company that invests in writing for it will be able to use that towards everything else.
Opinions are opinions and facts are facts. The software industry as a whole is starting to sing a different tune, the Cell isn't the only chip of its kind. Its an unavoidable change, a lot of developers were bitching at first, but its happening either way. Guessing about what the results are going to be is just stupid, wait and see.
Sony wants to make new software possibilities available to their customers, the Cell offers those capabilities. Their a new advent, their cutting edge, and undoubtedly more complex but that is unavoidable when it comes to new technology. It is an IBM chip, Intel and AMD are developing chips of the same kind. Microsoft bought Bungie so that it could restrict access to games like Halo to the Xbox platform so that only Microsoft customers could play it. Microsoft is much worse with harassment.
The Cell only has 2 general purpose cores, the rest of them are specialized for specific types of processing just like a GPU. GPU's can be used to crunch numbers just like a CPU, some kinds of numbers they crunch much better than a CPU. The Cell has distinct cores that process specific types of instructions faster than a general purpose core. When the code is organized to take advantage of that, it can process more efficiently than a GPU or CPU.
Just getting a helicopter? Play BF2. You will get tons of vehicles, weapons, etc. right out of the box. Not to mention get fragged by the likes of me. ;)
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I didn't mean they weren't making good money because most do in fact. I was merely being slightly sarcastic about how some forget the skill, innovation, time,...etc. that goes into programming. Oh, forget about luxury cars, get a jet. :)
Thats less then i thought, but still good money though!! This game looks like it use a lot of Processing power I mean the planesblowing up, rockets shooting in the air and tanks blowing up, man this is going to be a intense game!!!
Still play this game like crazy!:)
ube2ube4me 6 months ago
@ube2ube4me imo warhawk is one of the few "next gen games"
fuck you never see lag in hat game massive fucking maps. 1/4 of the gta iv map =D epicness good graphics for a 2007 game, the style is beast
ThreeDaysOfDan 5 months ago
and this is why the ps3 is so special
123456789sha 1 year ago
Love the PS1 sound
IvanPlayStation4LiFe 2 years ago
people who hard to understand...
cell just like a 1 CORE with 8 thread...
raydenPGD111 2 years ago
@raydenPGD111 Mind the fact one spu is deactivated and 1 is focused on the OS lol
devilzzzzzzzzzz 1 year ago
@devilzzzzzzzzzz One SPE is deactivated, indeed. The other one is reserved for XMB (the dashboard), not the operating system.
NewLynxChannel 11 months ago
@NewLynxChannel Lol! I knew it was someting along those lines thanks for correcting me xD
devilzzzzzzzzzz 11 months ago
that why ps3 whole system better than xbox 360..
raydenPGD111 2 years ago
Warhawk is a really fun game
I wish they can make another one.....
superman559cali 2 years ago 2
Were are these guys we want a new patch!! more customizations, and women characters!!! you cant stop now you have only just begun.
there should be some sweet customizations unlocked at 5,000 hrs or so.. just to show who is old school.
It is the only game I play, I am a legit command marshal OsamaBinKilling.
rhodeislandrasta 2 years ago
Warhawk= Almost best game on earth!!!
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IndestructableBunny 2 years ago 4
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Warhawk is horrible !!!!!
lazyslackerboy 2 years ago
you relize that only 75% of the actual potential is useable for game devs so thats close to 1/2 of its power
ICommentonVideo 3 years ago
Are you a PC/360 fanboy by any chance?
Show me your source to 75% of the cell only being able to be used.
Uncharted 2 has been reported to use 90% of PS3s power.
You're not being clever.
You're not right.
You're being a fanboy.
Now fuck off.
lElitePredatorl 3 years ago
Im a Mac/PS3 fanboy i also sort of like windows making me a PC fanboy as well
Well i have no source but its easy to figure out. Of the 8 SPE's on the cell 6 are useable by a game developer so 6 of 8 = 75% and please take into account that when they say 90% of the power includes the gpu too not just the cell
I wasnt aware i was being clever at all
I am at least 90% right
Yes i am a fanboy and proud of it
No
ICommentonVideo 3 years ago
Haha, you're a geniune idiot.
You have no source. You are simply embarassing yourself.
When developers refer to 'power' of the PS3, they do indeed mean the Cell.
The GPU processess graphics.
That's all.
Allow me to correct you:
Now developers are utilising PS3s hardware more, we'll start seeing more and more stand-out games.
The Cell is optimised for multi-tasking meaning 6 cores is more than enough for games.
Oh, and nice lie about you 'not' being a PC fanboy.
lElitePredatorl 3 years ago
Wrong
When they mean PS3 power they are talking about the power they can use.... 6 SPEs and RSX = 100% of power......
superman559cali 2 years ago
You mean 8 SPE's?
Last time I checked PS3 has 8
gamepro127onPSN 2 years ago
Yes the PS3 has 8 SPEs but the PS3 can only use 6 for gameplay,one is for the OS and the other is left disabled....
superman559cali 2 years ago
Until Sony Unlocked the 8th one...
7th is for OS for a reason: The OS hast to process some stuff, hell im 99% Sure it renders games to 1080p HD.
The 8th one WILL be unlocked, just like sony unlocking psp so now it can go up to 333mhz for games.
gamepro127onPSN 2 years ago
Prove that the 8th is going to be unlocked.... by sending me a link....
superman559cali 2 years ago
I dont have proof, but sony did the same thing with the PSP and they will with the PS3, too.
Its a matter of time.
gamepro127onPSN 2 years ago
I will look up the PSP hardware. If this is true then Sony will most likely unlock the last SPE when games get really advanced. I am guessing when games need to be run at 1080p/120fps or more....
superman559cali 2 years ago
I believe that Sony will unlock the 8th SPE as soon as games utilize 95-100% of the PS3 power(RSX+Cell)
superman559cali 2 years ago
racist white to japanese/asia...
raydenPGD111 3 years ago
hahah fake info buddy
rahman212 3 years ago
Real720
I think he was bullshitting. Gears used 100% of the 360's potential.
karssime 3 years ago
90% to be precise.................. The last 10% is for Gears of War 2 XD , but Microsucks is still lying to the people by saying "It'S just 40% of the machine...... But MGS4 used 35% of the PS3 and the graphics of MGS4 is so better than Gears of War 3 times to be precise.... And i'm not talking about the Cell, XDR RAM @ 3.2GHZ.
I'm not working in computers, processors, etc... But I know a lot about processors capacities and power.
BigBoss9865327410 3 years ago 2
The thing about consoles is that because the hardware never changes games can and do look better and better throughout the consoles life cycle. The PS2 was weak as hell, but look at God of War. Developers find ways to squeeze more and more out of the hardware in the consoles the more they work with them.
DILDOlover 3 years ago 2
You really don't know much. There is no source saying MGS4 uses 35% of the PS3. Any claim like that is just marketing hype. Sony is the one who always makes claims like that. The 360 has a better GPU while the PS3 has a better CPU
CaptainRidley 3 years ago
also ps3 can use 1 spu for graphics at 3.2ghz making the gpu good.
dcn66100 2 years ago 3
100% of a ps3s power doesnt mean the best
the best are where people push it further, look at games that came out when the ps2 first came out and then the ones released last year on the ps2.
tdrules 2 years ago
Well not until MSGS4 which will get over 50gigs of data!! Will see soon enough!
sentrynox 3 years ago 2
Where did you get that info?
CaptainRidley 3 years ago
@ captainridley
he's bullshitting.
Real720 3 years ago
tyserx is right about this "gears of war taped over 90% of the 360's potential, the ps3 hasn't even gotten passed 30 % yet... the truth is, no developer has the amount of content it whould take to max out the hardware on ps3."... Maybe you're a Microsucks Fan Boy
BigBoss9865327410 3 years ago
I LUV THAT PS1 NOISE ALWAYS DID
evilthinking509 4 years ago 2
mw too always makes me smile
MattyH101 4 years ago
Before you know it, the PS3 will be able to develope its own games O_o.
jmmaroli 4 years ago 10
LOL
evilthinking509 4 years ago 2
warhawk barely uses half of a half of the ps3 cell
PLAYGTA4 4 years ago 5
SPES are VERY important, the people who say theres no benifits, your insane. do your research and stop with the crap. lmao.
pcgamersyd88 4 years ago
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Shawntoocool 4 years ago
another xbox360 fanboy, you think the cell will be exploited so early?, ignorance is bliss aint it?, xenon on the other hand, the 360 has already been taped into. Cell is the benchmark. The Cell is basically a "Puzzle", and no,the 360 is a great console,i was playing halo 3 not long ago,saved a nice video to haha, its morons like you who assume that if a console is more powerfull its better, like your imature comment just there with attempted sarcasim
pcgamersyd88 4 years ago
Especially developers don't wanna use SPES.
;)
Colamix666 4 years ago
your oficially the youtube idiot, insomniac moved alot of the codes to the SPES, with 8spes running at 3.2ghz, you would be insane not to use them, by moving the code to the spes,you free up the gpu for more effects and lighting, noob ;)
pcgamersyd88 4 years ago
The Playstation 3 is only one console with only 6,5 million users.
PC x86 has some billion users.
PC PPC (without cell technology) has more than 6,5 million users.
So programmer have to learn only for one console (PC and Xbox 360 have 70% or more share in the market. Think about the world of warcraft players 9 Million users 2,5 m. more than ps3 users with only ONE PC game) for one thing and only writing games a new way to code. That is insane in my opinion.
Colamix666 4 years ago
that why in japen and chana ps3 selll the most 360 only doing good in the usa but not any more ps3 is out sell 360 dont belive me look it up
deadhand23 3 years ago 2
Colamix, you're just jealous cause you know the PS3 is better. Thats why you searched up this video
j5tar 4 years ago 3
The PS3 is more powerful than the xobx 360.
But Sony is trying to link the progammers in their system.
I have no problem with new technology.
But the cell processor is only to close the ps3 system from others ...
Colamix666 4 years ago
Code Masters, Sierra, and Starbreeze Studios are just a few examples of developers who are releasing software across both platforms. If a developer can write software for the Cell, writing the same code for a PC or Xbox is cake. Its much less complicated. The only time it is going to be code that will run on the PS3 and not the Cell is when the hardware on the Cell is being used more heavily, and the Xbox 360 just cant keep up. That won't happen for some time though.
hahanice3 4 years ago
? The Xbox 360 has no SPEs.
So the xbox 360 cpu just cannot execute ps3 code.
The Xbox 360 can keep it up but you have to code the program in a different way.
The GPU in the ps3 is to weak for the cell processor. So PS3 will have a better AI than the Xbox 360 (harder is not always more fun) and perhaps more players in the multiplayer but no better graphics.
Colamix666 4 years ago
"and perhaps more players in the multiplayer" you know nothing about mutltiplayer Colamix666
"So PS3 will have a better AI than the Xbox 360"Assassins creed for the 360 has better AI than the PS3,they maxed out the PS3 processor already what a shame.
Oh and blue ray isnt needed yet,and its been a year and no good console selling exclusives.
Shawntoocool 4 years ago
mutltiplayer wtf?
Don't smoke to mutch weed.
Colamix666 4 years ago
If you knew anything about the PS3, you would know the processor is still untapped. The most any game has used so far is uncharted with 30% of the processor.
jmmaroli 4 years ago
i cant see it on 100 % i just not able 2 see it its that geat
deadhand23 3 years ago
really,so your a game programmer are you?, how do you know the RSX is weaker than the 360 GPU,have you exploited both yourself?, your attempted 360 propaganda is alil to obvious kid.
pcgamersyd88 4 years ago
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The ps3 GPU is to weak for the cell processor.(and to less memory)
Cell proccessor needs 2 Geforce 8 series cards in SLI MODE.
Of course. I make propaganda like Sony did ...
Colamix666 4 years ago
You're lying man... that isn't even true.
jleack 4 years ago
2 GPUs in a PS3 would b kinda nice...
guitarazn90210 4 years ago
ps3's gpu=1.8 terraflops
xbox 360 gpu=1terraflop and the cell is great
Backdoormember 4 years ago
Actually, the 360's total power is 1 Tflop. The PS3's is 2.18 Tflops!
jmmaroli 4 years ago 2
ya that proves why x360 is now and ps3 the future...
scofieldbr 4 years ago 2
But the xbox 360 successor will own the ps3 when it arrives the "now".
Colamix666 4 years ago
yeah i agree , but ps3 sucessor will OWN x360's sucessor xD
scofieldbr 4 years ago
yeah but the ps3 sucessor will released not until after 9 years.
Xbox 360 sucessor will come in 5 years.
If Sony makes the playstation 4 earlier than 9 years the ps3 owners will be angry and switching to Microsoft.
Colamix666 4 years ago
hahahahahaha,colamix,your funny clown hahahaha
pcgamersyd88 4 years ago
If the argument is not there I can beat you with insults ...
No comment.
Colamix666 4 years ago
haha
scofieldbr 4 years ago
Absolutely. I think [PS3 is] a waste of everybody's time. Investing in the Cell, investing in the SPE gives you no long-term benefits. There's nothing there that you're going to apply to anything else. You're not going to gain anything except a hatred of the architecture they've created. I don't think they're going to make money off their box. I don't think it's a good solution.
Colamix666 4 years ago
Your ignorant as they come, and entirely wrong. MIT, Virginia Tech, and some of the best technical universities there are have courses based around the Cell. If you can write code for the Cell, you can write for any hardware available, and hardware that Intel and AMD are developing which have graphics and general purpose cores on a single chip. It is the highest standard in technology, and any company that invests in writing for it will be able to use that towards everything else.
hahanice3 4 years ago
I am not ignorant.
Gabe Newell from Valve said this!
Colamix666 4 years ago
Opinions are opinions and facts are facts. The software industry as a whole is starting to sing a different tune, the Cell isn't the only chip of its kind. Its an unavoidable change, a lot of developers were bitching at first, but its happening either way. Guessing about what the results are going to be is just stupid, wait and see.
hahanice3 4 years ago
Sony is harassing software developers with the cell processor.
EA must port games to wii, xbox360, pc, psp, N/DS, ps2 and ps3.
Thats no fun!
Sony is useing the cell processor for more power uhhhhh. Intrinsically the GPU is to weak for the CPU. It is only a chicane from Sony.
Colamix666 4 years ago
Sony wants to make new software possibilities available to their customers, the Cell offers those capabilities. Their a new advent, their cutting edge, and undoubtedly more complex but that is unavoidable when it comes to new technology. It is an IBM chip, Intel and AMD are developing chips of the same kind. Microsoft bought Bungie so that it could restrict access to games like Halo to the Xbox platform so that only Microsoft customers could play it. Microsoft is much worse with harassment.
hahanice3 4 years ago
The Cell only has 2 general purpose cores, the rest of them are specialized for specific types of processing just like a GPU. GPU's can be used to crunch numbers just like a CPU, some kinds of numbers they crunch much better than a CPU. The Cell has distinct cores that process specific types of instructions faster than a general purpose core. When the code is organized to take advantage of that, it can process more efficiently than a GPU or CPU.
hahanice3 4 years ago
of course he's gona say that. have u even played orange box 4 the PS3? its like they didnt even put the effort.
guitarazn90210 4 years ago
The game was just for the sales... Not the quality, they don't want to make a patch fot TF2.
BigBoss9865327410 3 years ago
ahh how i miss that psx starting sound(sighs)havent herd it for a while
MR2guy427 4 years ago 3
the best online game so far, but how about an update and new vehicles like a helicopter that will hilarious
aandres87 4 years ago
the best online game? do you own a computer with a good video card? where have you been the last 5years??
lollll
MikeDole1 4 years ago
Just getting a helicopter? Play BF2. You will get tons of vehicles, weapons, etc. right out of the box. Not to mention get fragged by the likes of me. ;)
NimitySSJ 4 years ago
Wow, amazing gameplaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. if you got a ps3 you got warhawk.
Himankz 4 years ago 2
best online game so far just hope they fix the bugs and get rid of the glitchers.
club213542 4 years ago 2
that kind of explain how they make the game only 700mb! xD
YumeWire 4 years ago 4
"This is a fun game, and I felt like I got a next gen title" fuckin hilarious, and yet true, im still addicted to warhawk.....
Vnix 4 years ago 5
i just want to say well done to everyone who worked on this game it realy is extrordinary
jonjon265 4 years ago 5
dude i got this game and i dont even have online at home lol!
DEE DEE DEE
EcFXSN1P3RX 4 years ago
When ur not playin games, put those powerhouse PS3s to good use by running Folding@Home, found in the network section of the menu. Run by Stanford University, the project aims to find out how proteins 'fold' and therefore lead to possible cures in types of cancer and other diseases.
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Lahmy88 4 years ago
oooh maaaannn in the beggining of the vid ....the sound .....of the PlayStation starting up .....it brings so many good memmories :')
srHBIGBoSS 4 years ago
i know huh! i actually watched the video cause i heard that!
EcFXSN1P3RX 4 years ago
oh i remember the sound of the playstation starting up too, good times.
bookshelffury 4 years ago 12
Marvelous... Absolutely Marvelous.
Gamedemon360 4 years ago
lol game programmers dont make 250 000 a year they make like 100 000
well ps3 game programers make more coz they program games on 8 cores real hard
JARHEADdog 4 years ago
I didn't mean they weren't making good money because most do in fact. I was merely being slightly sarcastic about how some forget the skill, innovation, time,...etc. that goes into programming. Oh, forget about luxury cars, get a jet. :)
Locke35 5 years ago
no dude video game programers make 150,000 to 250,000 a year. i no because i did a report on it
SHMlZZLE 5 years ago
Thats less then i thought, but still good money though!! This game looks like it use a lot of Processing power I mean the planesblowing up, rockets shooting in the air and tanks blowing up, man this is going to be a intense game!!!
EDMIX 4 years ago
trust these guys dont make that much maybe like 70,000 a year with bachlers in software engine
WarriorFootball 5 years ago
Yeah poor guys :( only driving a ferrari. Not enough cash to buy a Mclaren F1.
Micha112233 5 years ago
In my opinion, game programmers are SOOO underpaid... these guys are good.
Locke35 5 years ago
i agree with that
Gamming 5 years ago
how much do they make?
chrisflo5 5 years ago