@chikanwan You might say that Mailer has a New York accent, however this term is very overused, and there is really no such thing as a singular New York accent. Two people growing up next to each other in NY may have totally different accents based on their ethnicity, people they associate with, education and even their personality. If I had to label this accent, I would say it is a well-to-do Jewish New Yorker but it is his attitude and arrogance that distinguishes his accent,
Norman Mailer got convicted murderer Jack Abbot released from prison b/c he thought Abbott was such a 'talented writer.' 6 weeks later Abbot stabbed some1 to death. Mailer was hardly sorry & yrs later tried to get another killer released. What is wrong with liberals. As a judge I seriously would charge Mailer as accomplice to murder b/c he deserves it & to set an example to other liberals b/c similar incidents have happened numerous times. Peace loving liberals, they're just morons
@mikedd56 So every liberal is slandered with Mailer because of a mistake that he made? Even those liberals who would've disagreed with Mailer and agreed with you? I think we can all safely say that you will never be a judge anywhere, except perhaps a wet t-shirt contest in some beer-swilling burg where cozying up to your sister on cool autumn nights is the norm. I will not however trash other conservatives because of your obvious lack of education & intellect.
Drunken redneck idiot, how original & I suppose its ok for u to make broad generalizations but not me. Besides all I really meant was only a liberal would behave this way. Just like only a liberal would scream Bush is a Nazi but have nice things to say about Fidel Castro, yea I'm a moron for laughing at liberals who defend so many murderers. How bout if u were decider of Mailer's fate, would u punish him esp. if u knew he would go on to try & get a cop killer released.
Mailer is right here. This was one of his major novels. He was able to flesh out his religious and philosophical ideas that kind of came out in "Gospel According to the Son" and "Ancient Evenings" and finally make them flourish. While I can not say I am a fan of a lot that Mailer wrote in his last 30 years, he was right--this was a home run of a novel.
I was a great fan once... and read countless of his works... but many decades later all I can recall is "Armies of the Night," "Miami and Siege of Chicago," and "The Prisoner of Sex." I therefore conclude that he was an extremely entertaining and clever commentator on the times he lived in... but entirely forgetable as a novelist.
Norman Mailer wrote some quite short books, some of his best, in fact. An American Dream and The Fight are two of my four favourite Mailer works (the other two being The Naked and the Dead and The Executioner's Song).
I remember back in the 50's when Mailer and Leonard Cohen were beatniks who read Alan Ginsberg poetry. Wonder if Norman is still proficient on the bongos?? hahaha....
Quite innocent writing fault. I express my self in Norwegian style sentences. I seldom correct when i have the letters wrong. Wast of time. Math is my thing. This is the true language of nature. Many god math people is lost for science because they dont have top grade in language. No one should learn me how to express my self. Speaking and writing is for me like walking. Stupid for anyone to tell me how to walk. In some circles this is more important. How many language do you practice then?
Mailer narrowly escaped jail after stabbing his second wife Adele Morales at a party in New York in 1960. She refused to press charges and he was given a suspended sentence after doctors said he was suffering "from acute paranoid breakdown with delusional thinking.
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Homosexual womenhater and womenstabber. Surounded himself with women because they were a part of his projection. Al that macho talk. He wasnt able to kiill a chicken. Hated women because he envied their vaginas. Used his mouth as a vagina compensation. He got no spine. All the cartilage ended in those monkey ears.
Michiko Kakutani is awesome. People don't like her because she's the kid who points out that the emperor has no clothes. That is a wonderful attribute for a critic to have in an era of overblown literary reputations -- an era that we may be thankfully now leaving.
If Rip had really wanted to win the fight with the hammer, Norman wouldn't have been around to chew anything. P.S.: Maidstone got 5 1/2 stars at IMDB.
I wish he'd talked about that jerk off Rip Torn. I feel Mailer won that fight. He got hit in the head 3 times with a hammer and still got the better of that dick head Torn.
Mailer died the proverbial prophet unhonoured in his own country, but there is consolation in that with every week the contrast between Mailer's greatness and his various detractors' smallness becomes increasingly apparent. Whether one agrees or disagrees with his opinions, he was undoubtedly a courageous, forthright and independent thinker, and his books -the best of which are among the best in American literature- will continue to enrich our understanding of the last 50 years.
@stephentyler1 "The modernist thirst for originality makes the mediocre artist believe that the secret of originality consists simply in being different." - Nicolas Gomez Davila...sums up Mailer to perfection
I love how all these youtube no-body's trash Mailer..., alright, o.k., you vented your little voices on the only insipid platform your little voices will ever be heard...now shut the fuck up OR create something equal to Mailer or better. No? That's right. Because your mediocre idiots!
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Question: who will be reading this guy's work in one hundred years? Answer: the same people who think Jim Morrison was a great philosopher and Jack Kerouac a great novelist (ie no educated person).
thats true, and for my lit class, i had to read his book, why are we in vietnam? it was the worst book i have ever read, but the way he makes his characters seem real through the dialogue. his narratives may not be super spectacular, his characterization is phenomenal.
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He was an egotistical pervert. He stabbed his wife and later was instrumental in freeing a psychopath who murdered a waiter and ended up back in prison. If you want to read the work of a great novelist, read "Great Expectations" or "The Great Gatsby" and forget this perv.
Cloptea is an idiot, to come on here and talk shit right after someone dies...and sympathetics who say he was a pain in the ass--in this day and age of conformist culture, corporate control and in worsening conditions, we need more colorful, free spirited, smart and f'n cool shit talkers! People like this don't come around too often...r.i.p. Norman Mailer!
Too bad he's dead. He was a pain a some times but he came up with some strange and beautiful ideas once in a while. For instance: have kids joust in the projects. It's nice and violent but they must care for their horses to compete. That would have been interesting to play out.
Mailer is a lightning rod. The best part about him is how he pisses people off, but he felt strongly about his beliefs, even if they were skewed at times, but at least he stood up for himself.
Too bad there is nothing on YouTube of Mailer on the Dick Cavett back in the 1960s. He said to Cavett, "Do you have your questions written down on that little card?" Cavett replied with something like,"How would you like if I took this little card and stuck in you where the sun don't shine?" Also remember Bob Dylan wrote somewhere that he thought Hank Williams is more important that Norman Mailer. I liked Mailer. R.I.P. Norman
stfu you liberal idiot - libs are the ones obsessed with tearing down western civilization - have fun running on the al qaida bill of rights and socialized medicine.
I am a feminist but still loved Mailer.He wrote such wonderful prose, was so wise, so willing to put himself on the line. Fame, insecurity, alcohol and perhaps over indulgence by the New York intelligentia caused him to fall apart in the late fifties.But behind it all was a brave man trying to make sense of America and his place in it at the mid century. A true American chronicler, a kind of seer.Goodnight Norman, tip a wink to Marilyn if you see her. She's sure to adore you, fatherless child.
No more Norman!!...I admired Mailer's bravado in the face of critics and logic. "Damn the Torpedoes" He'd take on any subject. I found that refreshing, living in times with mountainous piles PC bullshit everywhere.
With his insecurities and heavy drinking; it's surprising he died of natural causes.
He was dead on with his opinion of feminists, the essence of which is....thier attitudes suck the love,life,romance and pure lust out of relationships. RIP Norman.
God rest your soul. You were very creative and very talented. God loves you and has taken you home. I respect your work, Norman. Grandpa Clarence Jones
Outside of being daddy`s boy, W´s life has been a continuous series of drunken arguments/brawls and all sorts of fuckups. --´Till he got elected! Get real!
see? hehehe
"I´m basically a media creation" -George w. Bush-
His most notable achievement in the end is the advocation of setting free a sociopath and killer. Good writing? Yes, in parts, by spurts. But there is still something shifty about him to my mind. He reminds me of the fox in The Polity of Beasts. A little too smooth when he's in front of an audience!
Mailer didn't set Abbott free. He supported his attempts to get parole, yes, but so did a number of other literary and cultural figures. Mailer has since expressed regret over his involvement in and behavior during the affair.
It's highly unfair to lay the senseless and unpredictable actions of Abbott at Mailer's feet. Abbott had only killed once - another inmate, in self defense - before his run-in with Adan. He was originally jailed for mere forgery. There was no indication that he was psychopathic when Mailer advocated for his release.
Mailer was the driving force in Abbotts release from prison. Mailers egocenticity in thinking that just because Abbott showed a flair for writing, somehow trumped all else in this persons behavioral background, led to a senseless death by a sociopath.
What about stabbing his wife? Who's to blame for that? I liked his writing years ago but he can be such a nag about a lot of old ideas that don't work. His finger is off the pulse of America and his navel gazing is pretty boring.
What does stabbing his wife have to do with this discussion? Of course Mailer's solely to blame there, but we were talking about the Abbott affair. Totally different incidents.
I agree with you that his recent work has been uneven, to put it kindly.
The original question was whether Mailer should be president or not. I pointed out two reasons why he was less than qualified-- The Abbott incident and the wife stabbing. Everyone addressed the Abbott issue but no one wanted to touch the stabbing—perhaps because there isn't much wiggle room there for the defense.
WTF is wrong with you? Outside of being a good writer. Mailers life has been a continuous series of drunken arguments/brawls and all sorts of fuckups. Get real!
mailer is a worthless hack
see Amis in The Moronic Inferno tear him a new one. it's hilarious. the guy's writing is worthless simply on the basis that he's completely deranged.
millerlois23 1 month ago
worthless flaked out hack
held a theory for almost 30 years that the CIA killed JFK
then when he was up for a felony attempted murder charge for stabbing his wife, he gets a movie done about his crime, and mysteriously avoids prison
and naturally does a 180 on his theory on JFK and comes out as an "expert" to say Oswald committed the crime.
geez, it's so hard to figure out what's going on!.
millerlois23 1 month ago
Can an American viewer / listener please tell me whether Mailer's accent is particular to or representative of a specific part of America?
chikanwan 5 months ago
@chikanwan You might say that Mailer has a New York accent, however this term is very overused, and there is really no such thing as a singular New York accent. Two people growing up next to each other in NY may have totally different accents based on their ethnicity, people they associate with, education and even their personality. If I had to label this accent, I would say it is a well-to-do Jewish New Yorker but it is his attitude and arrogance that distinguishes his accent,
orange9016 3 months ago
Mailer's a funny guy , cute one
xtrmsprts 6 months ago
Which book are they discussing?
dovestones 7 months ago
Norman Mailer got convicted murderer Jack Abbot released from prison b/c he thought Abbott was such a 'talented writer.' 6 weeks later Abbot stabbed some1 to death. Mailer was hardly sorry & yrs later tried to get another killer released. What is wrong with liberals. As a judge I seriously would charge Mailer as accomplice to murder b/c he deserves it & to set an example to other liberals b/c similar incidents have happened numerous times. Peace loving liberals, they're just morons
mikedd56 8 months ago
@mikedd56 So every liberal is slandered with Mailer because of a mistake that he made? Even those liberals who would've disagreed with Mailer and agreed with you? I think we can all safely say that you will never be a judge anywhere, except perhaps a wet t-shirt contest in some beer-swilling burg where cozying up to your sister on cool autumn nights is the norm. I will not however trash other conservatives because of your obvious lack of education & intellect.
Ahabite 8 months ago
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Drunken redneck idiot, how original & I suppose its ok for u to make broad generalizations but not me. Besides all I really meant was only a liberal would behave this way. Just like only a liberal would scream Bush is a Nazi but have nice things to say about Fidel Castro, yea I'm a moron for laughing at liberals who defend so many murderers. How bout if u were decider of Mailer's fate, would u punish him esp. if u knew he would go on to try & get a cop killer released.
mikedd56 8 months ago
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If you want to know what was going on behind the scenes with Mailer, check out this book. Mornings with Mailer.
ptwriter1 1 year ago
well said stephentyler1
MrJoshuaGrierson 1 year ago
Mailer is right here. This was one of his major novels. He was able to flesh out his religious and philosophical ideas that kind of came out in "Gospel According to the Son" and "Ancient Evenings" and finally make them flourish. While I can not say I am a fan of a lot that Mailer wrote in his last 30 years, he was right--this was a home run of a novel.
KenoisRob 1 year ago
Norman Mailer was a true American Icon, It is time that this generation know.... who is norman mailer the american ...was
there is a great new movie ! with amazing interviews of family and friends and of course norman.
MrJmantegna 1 year ago
I was a great fan once... and read countless of his works... but many decades later all I can recall is "Armies of the Night," "Miami and Siege of Chicago," and "The Prisoner of Sex." I therefore conclude that he was an extremely entertaining and clever commentator on the times he lived in... but entirely forgetable as a novelist.
janelasdedeus 1 year ago
@janelasdedeus Yeah i'm digging that comment. i love how its told thru the music BK Love
ILukeLarkin 1 year ago
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Many decades?What,10,12, or 15?
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mjborbely 1 year ago
What an ugly dude. Sounds like he was ugly on the inside too.
onnion63 1 year ago
@onnion63 Fuck you too.
NidisListenstoShit 1 year ago
@NidisListenstoShit fuckllicfwhat? Brian Wilson is the most intresting interview that ever was on charlie rose!
M3town3 1 year ago
*NOBODY* comes close to Charlie Rose in terms of asking the right questions and eliciting a good interview.
*NOBODY* comes close to Norman Mailer in terms of sheer pomposity.
No, I take that back. Ayn Rand and Barack Obama immediately come to mind. And there are probably countless others, actually.
7beers 1 year ago
some ppl say this man is brilliant, but i always note how his arrogance comes across so clearly that he reminds me of a young child....
Conail23 1 year ago
Remember when Dick Cavett kicked his ass... intellectually?
NESherv 2 years ago
when did that happen? sounds interesting.
lenal1l 1 year ago
Look up "dick cavett norman mailer" on YouTube.
NESherv 1 year ago
Yes -- it's on youtube.
7beers 1 year ago
Norman Mailer wrote some quite short books, some of his best, in fact. An American Dream and The Fight are two of my four favourite Mailer works (the other two being The Naked and the Dead and The Executioner's Song).
Eladas334 2 years ago
I remember back in the 50's when Mailer and Leonard Cohen were beatniks who read Alan Ginsberg poetry. Wonder if Norman is still proficient on the bongos?? hahaha....
myshinywagon 2 years ago
After taking units in stylistics and discourse analysis, I can now appreciate and understand what Michiko Kakutani stands for.
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machinesbreathe 1 year ago
Quite innocent writing fault. I express my self in Norwegian style sentences. I seldom correct when i have the letters wrong. Wast of time. Math is my thing. This is the true language of nature. Many god math people is lost for science because they dont have top grade in language. No one should learn me how to express my self. Speaking and writing is for me like walking. Stupid for anyone to tell me how to walk. In some circles this is more important. How many language do you practice then?
runeguldberg 1 year ago
My apologies. I was rude, and entirely out of line to say what I had; Not to mention, disrespectful.
My actions were petty and crass, and I hope that you may be able to look past this indiscretion.
machinesbreathe 1 year ago
Mailer narrowly escaped jail after stabbing his second wife Adele Morales at a party in New York in 1960. She refused to press charges and he was given a suspended sentence after doctors said he was suffering "from acute paranoid breakdown with delusional thinking.
runeguldberg 1 year ago
1939 studying for a aeronautical engineer. First attemt to be something he is not.
runeguldberg 2 years ago
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Homosexual womenhater and womenstabber. Surounded himself with women because they were a part of his projection. Al that macho talk. He wasnt able to kiill a chicken. Hated women because he envied their vaginas. Used his mouth as a vagina compensation. He got no spine. All the cartilage ended in those monkey ears.
runeguldberg 2 years ago
But he's a good writer.
Luka1990Croat 2 years ago 6
Michiko Kakutani is awesome. People don't like her because she's the kid who points out that the emperor has no clothes. That is a wonderful attribute for a critic to have in an era of overblown literary reputations -- an era that we may be thankfully now leaving.
daleroes 3 years ago
fuck Michiko Kakutani!!! Mailer rules...
Hapworth1924 3 years ago
If Rip had really wanted to win the fight with the hammer, Norman wouldn't have been around to chew anything. P.S.: Maidstone got 5 1/2 stars at IMDB.
glen1ster 3 years ago
I wish he'd talked about that jerk off Rip Torn. I feel Mailer won that fight. He got hit in the head 3 times with a hammer and still got the better of that dick head Torn.
zigzagbigbag 3 years ago
I recommend his book the spooky art; thought's on writing. Brilliant man/writer, RIP! A very sensitive man.(as many good writers are)
DAreturner 3 years ago
You know, if Charlie thought the interview should go another way he coulda always whacked Norman in the head with a hammer.
EdgarDirby 3 years ago
it may-be because i'm super tired, but i giggled my ass off when i read that.
myassishaunted 3 years ago
Remembering Norman Mailer 1 year after his death.
tefisher1984 3 years ago
I am reading his long time ago book named advertisement of myself.
his bookes are just fine.
tuskilan 3 years ago
Mailer died the proverbial prophet unhonoured in his own country, but there is consolation in that with every week the contrast between Mailer's greatness and his various detractors' smallness becomes increasingly apparent. Whether one agrees or disagrees with his opinions, he was undoubtedly a courageous, forthright and independent thinker, and his books -the best of which are among the best in American literature- will continue to enrich our understanding of the last 50 years.
stephentyler1 3 years ago 13
@stephentyler1
Please take your pretentiousness elsewhere.
kramerbozco 1 year ago
@stephentyler1 "The modernist thirst for originality makes the mediocre artist believe that the secret of originality consists simply in being different." - Nicolas Gomez Davila...sums up Mailer to perfection
rickvaughn 1 year ago
That is the best interview I have seen of this author. I believe I tried to even read it, instead of books about him.
JMotnger 3 years ago
I love how all these youtube no-body's trash Mailer..., alright, o.k., you vented your little voices on the only insipid platform your little voices will ever be heard...now shut the fuck up OR create something equal to Mailer or better. No? That's right. Because your mediocre idiots!
LeonidasIII300 3 years ago 2
correction, (*you're) mediocre idiots. other than that valid point all around.
cynicallytested 3 years ago
No matter if Mailer was a doubtable person or not he still was an amazing writer. His associations and language were very colorful and original
kajakjohan 3 years ago
Can't say I agree with everything he says, and yes, he had a few lose screws. But at least he stood up for his opinions.
PorkenStuff 3 years ago
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Question: who will be reading this guy's work in one hundred years? Answer: the same people who think Jim Morrison was a great philosopher and Jack Kerouac a great novelist (ie no educated person).
normaseattle 4 years ago
thats true, and for my lit class, i had to read his book, why are we in vietnam? it was the worst book i have ever read, but the way he makes his characters seem real through the dialogue. his narratives may not be super spectacular, his characterization is phenomenal.
humpalot0180 4 years ago
I thought "The Quick and the Dead" was excellent. I guess I'm not educated... sob sob ...
exobeat 3 years ago
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Question: is norma an idiot?
Answer: an emphatic yes!
cvjucla3 3 years ago
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He was an egotistical pervert. He stabbed his wife and later was instrumental in freeing a psychopath who murdered a waiter and ended up back in prison. If you want to read the work of a great novelist, read "Great Expectations" or "The Great Gatsby" and forget this perv.
normaseattle 4 years ago
Cloptea is an idiot, to come on here and talk shit right after someone dies...and sympathetics who say he was a pain in the ass--in this day and age of conformist culture, corporate control and in worsening conditions, we need more colorful, free spirited, smart and f'n cool shit talkers! People like this don't come around too often...r.i.p. Norman Mailer!
ussmontpelier 4 years ago 2
Yeah, I'm not going to miss Gore a bit.
hartart56 4 years ago
Susan Sontag,Noeman Mailer,Gore Vidal
two down,one to go
cloptea 4 years ago
charming
blatspanner 4 years ago
Too bad he's dead. He was a pain a some times but he came up with some strange and beautiful ideas once in a while. For instance: have kids joust in the projects. It's nice and violent but they must care for their horses to compete. That would have been interesting to play out.
hartart56 4 years ago
Mailer is a lightning rod. The best part about him is how he pisses people off, but he felt strongly about his beliefs, even if they were skewed at times, but at least he stood up for himself.
karsten19 4 years ago
Yeah a typo - that's a real good one. Idiot.
Alfrunk 4 years ago
I agree. The scariest thing in the world is mindless obedience.
kolst8406 4 years ago
Too bad there is nothing on YouTube of Mailer on the Dick Cavett back in the 1960s. He said to Cavett, "Do you have your questions written down on that little card?" Cavett replied with something like,"How would you like if I took this little card and stuck in you where the sun don't shine?" Also remember Bob Dylan wrote somewhere that he thought Hank Williams is more important that Norman Mailer. I liked Mailer. R.I.P. Norman
joebstewart 4 years ago
Feminists are dancing in the streets!!
rigarick 4 years ago
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Another poop-obsessed jew gone. Anerica is that much better off w/o him.
Alfrunk 4 years ago
Thats nice...NOT!
NormanMailersGhost 4 years ago
poop-obssessed jew?are jews traditionally poop-obssessed?
blatspanner 4 years ago
lol
whitey5600 4 years ago
Good riddance. America loses another crazy moonbat from the 1960s. Can't wait til they're all gone.
GwionBach 4 years ago
when you die....no one will give a flying fuck
but i will
cuz i will find your grave, dig up your corpse and shit down your dead skull
wingnuts have destroyed my country
brabon 4 years ago
stfu you liberal idiot - libs are the ones obsessed with tearing down western civilization - have fun running on the al qaida bill of rights and socialized medicine.
Alfrunk 4 years ago
You can't fool us you are really Sean Hanity.
NormanMailersGhost 4 years ago
Thats so sweet you must be a Christian.
Mailer first and most famous book was
written in 1948.
NormanMailersGhost 4 years ago
"Coulda been a sailor, coulda been a whaler. He turned out to be Norman Mailer." - Gwar
castingtherunes 4 years ago 2
You should be in show biz...NOT!
NormanMailersGhost 4 years ago
I am a feminist but still loved Mailer.He wrote such wonderful prose, was so wise, so willing to put himself on the line. Fame, insecurity, alcohol and perhaps over indulgence by the New York intelligentia caused him to fall apart in the late fifties.But behind it all was a brave man trying to make sense of America and his place in it at the mid century. A true American chronicler, a kind of seer.Goodnight Norman, tip a wink to Marilyn if you see her. She's sure to adore you, fatherless child.
carrowcannon 4 years ago
No more Norman!!...I admired Mailer's bravado in the face of critics and logic. "Damn the Torpedoes" He'd take on any subject. I found that refreshing, living in times with mountainous piles PC bullshit everywhere.
With his insecurities and heavy drinking; it's surprising he died of natural causes.
He was dead on with his opinion of feminists, the essence of which is....thier attitudes suck the love,life,romance and pure lust out of relationships. RIP Norman.
rigarick 4 years ago
Norman Mailer was a literary influence in my life as a writer. God rest your soul, Norman.
anonysquirrel 4 years ago
God rest your soul. You were very creative and very talented. God loves you and has taken you home. I respect your work, Norman. Grandpa Clarence Jones
oldsteinar 4 years ago
Thanks for your military service Norman. He was a cook. Did he ever write a cookbook?
squidaudio 4 years ago
RIP
TreydarLove 4 years ago
Norman Mailer - The literary Frank Sinatra.
IngoForrest 4 years ago
nice.
ottoskidoo 4 years ago
Hey, rigarick, try to guess who is this:
Outside of being daddy`s boy, W´s life has been a continuous series of drunken arguments/brawls and all sorts of fuckups. --´Till he got elected! Get real!
see? hehehe
"I´m basically a media creation" -George w. Bush-
ElFrankus 4 years ago
Mailer rocks!!
GFY1954 4 years ago
mailer is a complete piece of shit. always has been, always will be. a big windbag. transparent. worthless.
rix66 4 years ago
His most notable achievement in the end is the advocation of setting free a sociopath and killer. Good writing? Yes, in parts, by spurts. But there is still something shifty about him to my mind. He reminds me of the fox in The Polity of Beasts. A little too smooth when he's in front of an audience!
craigenputtock 4 years ago
Mailer didn't set Abbott free. He supported his attempts to get parole, yes, but so did a number of other literary and cultural figures. Mailer has since expressed regret over his involvement in and behavior during the affair.
clerihew85 4 years ago
It's highly unfair to lay the senseless and unpredictable actions of Abbott at Mailer's feet. Abbott had only killed once - another inmate, in self defense - before his run-in with Adan. He was originally jailed for mere forgery. There was no indication that he was psychopathic when Mailer advocated for his release.
clerihew85 4 years ago
You are wrong!
Mailer was the driving force in Abbotts release from prison. Mailers egocenticity in thinking that just because Abbott showed a flair for writing, somehow trumped all else in this persons behavioral background, led to a senseless death by a sociopath.
rigarick 4 years ago
I don't think "egocentricity" is the correct word. "Naivete" would be more apropos.
Again, it is unfair to blame Mailer for Adan's death. Blame Abbott.
clerihew85 4 years ago
What about stabbing his wife? Who's to blame for that? I liked his writing years ago but he can be such a nag about a lot of old ideas that don't work. His finger is off the pulse of America and his navel gazing is pretty boring.
hartart5646382 4 years ago
What does stabbing his wife have to do with this discussion? Of course Mailer's solely to blame there, but we were talking about the Abbott affair. Totally different incidents.
I agree with you that his recent work has been uneven, to put it kindly.
clerihew85 4 years ago
The original question was whether Mailer should be president or not. I pointed out two reasons why he was less than qualified-- The Abbott incident and the wife stabbing. Everyone addressed the Abbott issue but no one wanted to touch the stabbing—perhaps because there isn't much wiggle room there for the defense.
hartart5646382 4 years ago
For you to better understand, let me rephrase it.
"Mailers illusions of grandeur, as a writer, created an egocentric state of mind in which he incorrectly rationalized
that since Abbott had the makings of a great writer, he must therefore be good and noble....and FREE!!
Check into the relation of Abbott/Mailer again. I think you'll see that my point is valid.
Have a nice day!
rigarick 4 years ago
clerihew85: See comment below.
rigarick 4 years ago
you're dead-on, bro. if you want a good laugh, read TOM WOLFE's essay, MY THREE STOOGES in his book HOOKING UP. it is hysterical.
rix66 4 years ago
just a writer?
natc83 4 years ago
I don't know if you want ol' Norm in the white house--he did stab his wife and is responsible for setting a murder loose to kill again.
hartart5646382 5 years ago 2
an amazing writer
its a shame that a person like norman is just a writer and a person like george is president
ramstation 5 years ago
Ha, well said! Funny old world we live in...
DangerousBastard 5 years ago
WTF is wrong with you? Outside of being a good writer. Mailers life has been a continuous series of drunken arguments/brawls and all sorts of fuckups. Get real!
rigarick 4 years ago
So he should be a presidential writer. ???
runemartinguldberg 2 years ago