The reason the Leica cameras are so expensive is because of the quality of each picture. The lenses are really expensive, but not overpriced, because they are after all the worlds best lenses. Each picture contains so much color and resolution-information that the opportunities to retouché them later are endless. I understand that people think that it's expensive, but this is for people with special interest and not just for hobby-use. It's the same reason they don't drive Smart cars in Formel1
Leica is like Apple of the camera world. The camera isn't really subjectively better than a pro DSLR... but it's expensive, shiny, and has a little red logo that says: I can afford to buy expensive crap, but may or may not really know how to use it well.
@martinaee You kidding right ? Leica M systems are the most long lasting! Any camera would look cheap and poorly made next to it. I dont buy a lot of things, but i like buying quality products. The sensor has more depth and calibration than any other camera. Finally leica lenses are absolutely amazing in construction and optical results. Maybe you like cheap stuffs. As for Apple, you'll be happy to afford one, why despising people who wants to buy the best ?
If you have to ask what makes this camera the best, then you have never held one in your hands. This camera just feels like it belongs there. And above all, it's the camera that made 35MM shooting popular.
Could someone please explain to me what makes Leica subjectively better than other high end cameras? Is it the picture quality, the fit and finish, the history?How do they compare to the newest SLR's in terms of picture quality?
Now there's the M9. The M8 didn't come with sapphire glass (available as an expensive u/g). The M8.2 did. The M9, oddly, doesn't. Neither does the flagship S2, except via a very expensive u/g which also inc. a platinum support package. For a camera manufacturer who supposedly prides itself on exceptional quality why isn't the sapphire glass fitted as standard?? Given the price of the cameras I hardly think it's due to concern on keeping the price reasonable!
I guess I just expected these to be fitted as standard after the M8 u/g, and given the price. As it stands it's more of a back-step in terms of quality, which makes little sense.
Leica M's are a gorgeous combination of German engineering and art. Nikon and Canon are just cameras. It's like comparing a Porsche with a Suburban. Maybe there are more bells and whistles in the Suburban, but who gives a f*&^?
the M8 is a dream camera but i would have got "her" in silver, dont know why. The glas is awesome, i have a watch with this glas and you simply cant scratch it :)
Y'see, everything you said can be ignored with your latest comment.
Cameras like the Nikon D3 hardly are anything like a toy. Leicas, on the other hand, being pricey expensive and elitist devices which are used almost only by rich photographers could actually be branded as expensive toys.
Besides, your stupid ass arrogant attitude makes you a complete fool. Do you think you'll be a better fotographer because you use a Leica?
I believe that Olympus and Pentax might be even more innovative than Canon or Nikon. Canon and Nikon simply capitalize on the customers owning their old lenses. So the try to much new digital cameras to use all those legacly lenses. That's backward thinking in my opinion. Olympus designed a brand new format in 2001, which makes lenses more compacts. That's a progress. 24/36mm sensors contribute to clunky equipment. And I know what I am talking about because I have an A900.
4/3 is uncomparably bigger than compact camera sensors. I find myself shooting much more with my Olympus E-500 than the Sony A900 simply due to the size. I believe Olympus got it really right when it comes to the size. The 35mm equipment is just too huge for my taste. That's why I am very intrigued by this Leica, because it has a large sensor, and yet the size of the camera allows you to take pictures that you wouldn't otherwise be permitted to take with a clunky 35mm SLR.
This is just a rangefinder camera with a digital sensor. a 35mm film rangefinder (like a leica) is exactly the same size, if size is the reason you dont shoot film, why dont you just get a 35mm film rangefinder?
Well if that isn't one of the most stupid ass statements I've heard in a long time. You're typical of the 'Leica must make better cameras because they're Leica brigade'. Based on Leica's track record with the M8 (and other digital forays so far) I expect a ruck load of problems with the S2 when it's released.
You don't compare any RF camera with an SLR, you muppet. Get a clue!
Yet another immature statement based, I suspect, on zero experience. Try taking your 'real' camera out in the rain and see how far you get with it. It's inexcusable that Leica never provided any form of weather sealing on the M8 especially as the primary use for most will be street work.
If you're stupid enough to take a multi-thousand dollar camera into the rain, you should be buying a Canon or Nikon. If they are damaged, it doesn't really matter too much.
Yeah, that's right. Keep it in it's box or hide it when it rains, because that'll get you the shot, won't it? You're either nothing but a trophy hunter or an ass, you decide. You're certainly not a photographer.
ok i saw a M8 costed almost like nikon d3 so wtf a leica and no lens, for that money come on, give me at least a pinhole lensish thing, i wonder how much a normal lens will cost for that?
any ways people that only tell you buy a canon or a nikon and my fav Nikon D90
Are you kidding me with the "no lens" comments? Do you people not know about interchangeable lense cameras? This isn't your little sister's camera. And It's not a surprise that the M8.2 comes without even a starter one, being that lenses are usually more expensive than the body, and most owners already have their own...
I hope not for the price difference. I've had 4 Canons and I consider myself abusive with cameras. But I get great shots and love my captures. You can go to Flickr and use their camera finder to view photos by camera and decide for yourself. Good luck.
One of the better features is the sapphire glass. The diamond can scratch it, but nothing else.... so when you accidently come at the screen with an ice pick you're lcd screen will be without scratches (not saying the lcd will work from all the pressure lol) ,
for someone like me at university, it would be beneficial since i have all sorts of pens, pencils, razors, staplers in my backpack (art major), and I'd know instead everything else was scrached, and not the screen lol!
Well, just have an NIkon f5 and a hassy, so too bad not an M8, well, must say, the m8 looks really nice and small and doesn't shout "im expensive" thou actually it is.... so someday... I also will have an M8 (or M9??)
Björn Vaughn and Pete Souza (the official chief photographer in the white house) both work for a living, taking pictures with a Leica M8.2
People that can appreciate something special will use it. SLRs are good for a majority of photographers, but for the photographers that want something else, rangefinders, medium format cameras, and large format cameras work very well.
This camera is totally overpriced and overrated. I know that there are people out there only enjoing the "leica feeling", but hey, it dont even feels good in your hands!
I am no hater or pretender, i only think that leica goes (for me, a person who makes money whit photography) a wrong way.
I also think that the S2 will be a flop product. Why should somebody buy this overpriced camera? Because its from leica?
There are more then enough people who like it. It is simply perfect. - Take a Rolex. It is the same. If you compare it with a cheap Swatch, you are on the wrong way. I just bought a 8.2 and a 28mm Elmarit. And I'm very very happy. Have a nice day.
Why would you pay around $3000 for a RANGEFINDER camera when for around the same price you could buy a top of the range nikon or canon SLR WITH A LENS. I know leicas are great but if I had that sort of money to spend on a camera, I would buy a proper nikon slr
because SLRs are too cumbersome for many situations. I have a minolta x-300 and love it, other occasions I will use my sp500uz and will always carry my XA2 (its so light so why not, and its great for stealth shots)
I'm sure you'll have that same opinion in 50 years when digital cameras are near perfection and 1000 times better then current models Stevenstreet... thanks for your wise input.
I myself couldn't say anything really negative on digital simply because I find tons of cameras that prove that digital really works. My favorite digital camera is the Leaf AFi-II since it was designed to perfect all the inconveniences of other medium format digital cameras. But they cost more then Hasselblad :<
i use both, the irony is that film cameras are quicker to operate. Film has a nice aesthetic quality (regardless of how many equivalent megapixels it has). Sometimes a lot of grain can look really good, you cant say the same for CCD noise, aliasing noise and visible pixels at large print sizes. Digital is nice for some situations and is so much better than it was a few years ago.
Leica has a medium format camera finally and it's excruciatingly expensive. Also, these cameras are not for beginners, so we can all negate the comment on how these cameras won't make you better. The same could be said about someone buying an exotic super car becoming a great driver.
That camera is tried and tested engineering that happens to work with the oldest method of accurate and mechanical shutters in photographic history. It is a proper camera, as a rolls royce is a proper car.
Leica is far superior to any Japanese camera in terms of build/picture quality. You cannot compare a Porsche to a Lexus, (Both totally different, one far superior)
Are you saying it's too hard for you to focus? Rangefinder photographers, and Large Format Photographers don't complain, why should you? Leica is a great brand, but the photographer needs to be a photographer, not just a guy that pushes a button with a million automated features.
The quality can be very good if you know how to use it...
I dont like auto-focus on any camera, I find that even on my sp500uz I use manual focus, partly because the autofocus can get things wrong and is slow. Manual focus, shutter speed and aperture are all easy to get to grips with if you spend only a little time with it.
not sure I would ever buy a digital leica though (would get a film one if money was no object).
if you are using a digital camera and have shutter lag, autofocus is one of the reasons. When shooting a band or something with a lot of action you want the shutter to fire when you press the button not two seconds later. Manual focus is quick and easy on cameras/lenses which are designed appropriately.
hmm, you seem to know alot about cameras. "or even a Hasselblad"???? Hasselblads are medium format cameras, they are relatively slow, the quality is unbeatable, and they cost $36,000. Leicas and Hasselblads are very different, as are Leica's to Nikons and Canons. While the Leica's quality isn't as good as say a Canon, they are still very good, their lenses are sharper that hell, and yes, they're a classic. If you buy a Leica you buy it for a different reason than why you would buy an SLR.
jeeez, 200 dollar worth of carton for the 4 boxes...
BigRooster747 2 weeks ago
The reason the Leica cameras are so expensive is because of the quality of each picture. The lenses are really expensive, but not overpriced, because they are after all the worlds best lenses. Each picture contains so much color and resolution-information that the opportunities to retouché them later are endless. I understand that people think that it's expensive, but this is for people with special interest and not just for hobby-use. It's the same reason they don't drive Smart cars in Formel1
MrRandomJeans 3 weeks ago
I don't get it, what are these cameras and why the hell are they so expensive
lamarpi314 2 months ago
Why are these cameras so EXPENSIVE?
PLxFTW 2 months ago
I'm sorry, but I could never own a Leica without the red dot.
Ishcoa 8 months ago
I Have this and a M9 Titan!!! IM FUCKING RICH!!!!!!!!!!! TRUST ME!!! There's one more thing! It was only just a dream
3553 10 months ago 11
Where the Lens is ? 8000$ overpriced .
EvenStarMN 1 year ago
German design rulez
STRUMICH 1 year ago
its like 2,300 USD used now. This is my next camera!
toocoolforu 1 year ago
id still take d3s or 1d over this any day
MIkeness101 1 year ago
its fuckin $8,000 holy shit!
radioshuriken 1 year ago
what in the world is so special about this??
BBrtqB 1 year ago
@BBrtqB its hard to explain...theres a magic in leica you might say
hippo71124 1 year ago
@hippo71124 hmm guess ill never know ahah
BBrtqB 1 year ago
@BBrtqB If you have to ask, you'll never know.
blackdice23 1 year ago
@blackdice23 :D
BBrtqB 1 year ago
Very nice.
bugbee8 1 year ago
Leica is like Apple of the camera world. The camera isn't really subjectively better than a pro DSLR... but it's expensive, shiny, and has a little red logo that says: I can afford to buy expensive crap, but may or may not really know how to use it well.
martinaee 1 year ago
@martinaee the apple. of camera world is hasselblad
DustinBodenVEVO 1 year ago
@martinaee You kidding right ? Leica M systems are the most long lasting! Any camera would look cheap and poorly made next to it. I dont buy a lot of things, but i like buying quality products. The sensor has more depth and calibration than any other camera. Finally leica lenses are absolutely amazing in construction and optical results. Maybe you like cheap stuffs. As for Apple, you'll be happy to afford one, why despising people who wants to buy the best ?
toocoolforu 1 year ago
Wow! you know how much this body only now, Aus $5500.
rustynasty143 1 year ago
this is totally adorable !
ailime 1 year ago
I freakin hate my SLR!
1. The weight of the camera and L glass on the Canon makes my shoulder back ache.
2. The controls are ridiculous. I just want to set av/tv and focus, why is that so hard?!?
3. Creatively stifling... push this button, change that setting.
4. Where did everything go...Click the button and see darkness for secs, especially night shots
Not sure if Leica is better but will give it a go...
lambdatau118 1 year ago
&000 USD only body plus a lense... Only for richs
eyewitnessfilms 2 years ago
If you have to ask what makes this camera the best, then you have never held one in your hands. This camera just feels like it belongs there. And above all, it's the camera that made 35MM shooting popular.
C1SN3NS1C 2 years ago
Could someone please explain to me what makes Leica subjectively better than other high end cameras? Is it the picture quality, the fit and finish, the history?How do they compare to the newest SLR's in terms of picture quality?
baguazhang2 2 years ago
Leicas = Pure expensive awesomeness.
The original M mount lenses fit on the new digital M's.
Although i wish they came with a lens...
sgtpandathe3rd 2 years ago
Wow, fit and finish must be fantastic on this.
dvamateur 2 years ago
man that is a clean box.
domclaudevandamme 2 years ago
6....thousand dollars...
I can buy a D3x with that money...
or a 200-400mm LENS!
CrazyJimKU 2 years ago
Now there's the M9. The M8 didn't come with sapphire glass (available as an expensive u/g). The M8.2 did. The M9, oddly, doesn't. Neither does the flagship S2, except via a very expensive u/g which also inc. a platinum support package. For a camera manufacturer who supposedly prides itself on exceptional quality why isn't the sapphire glass fitted as standard?? Given the price of the cameras I hardly think it's due to concern on keeping the price reasonable!
Fredolow 2 years ago
Maybe there will be an M9.2 with sapphire crystal, black dot and the "vulcanite" finish, who knows?
dvamateur 2 years ago
I guess I just expected these to be fitted as standard after the M8 u/g, and given the price. As it stands it's more of a back-step in terms of quality, which makes little sense.
Fredolow 2 years ago
Fantastic camera. I wish I were this lucky to receive and unpack it for myself. Thanks for posting.
dvamateur 2 years ago
MADE IN GERMANY
hihellocute 2 years ago
You could buy an E-3 and most of the SHG lenses for the price of the M8.2 body alone.
KaiserSozeSPF 2 years ago
Leica M's are a gorgeous combination of German engineering and art. Nikon and Canon are just cameras. It's like comparing a Porsche with a Suburban. Maybe there are more bells and whistles in the Suburban, but who gives a f*&^?
Guidussify 2 years ago
SUPERIOR GERMAN ENGINEERING
hihellocute 2 years ago
ye~~~LEICA IS THE BEST ,HAHH HAHH~
gobanbango 2 years ago
a peice of art
rithoo56 2 years ago
fuck nikon!
fuck canon!
hihellocute 2 years ago
SUPERIOR GERMAN ENGINEERING
hihellocute 2 years ago
I hope Carl Zeiss would make a digital Ikon Made in Germany with 24 megapixels full frame and make all of their ZM lenses in Germany.
That would be a great competition with Leica.
And I hope Leica makes a full-frame 24 megapixels M9.
hihellocute 2 years ago
Drools....
hihellocute 2 years ago
Hello, Dream Camera. And thank you for showing it to us with natural dexterity at natural speed.
GatoPoder 2 years ago
the M8 is a dream camera but i would have got "her" in silver, dont know why. The glas is awesome, i have a watch with this glas and you simply cant scratch it :)
sharpanator 2 years ago
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Now that's a REAL camera.
Nikons and Canons are just TOYS.
hihellocute 2 years ago
Really, and what's so amazing if we can get M adapter, stupid idiot. And use any lens we like ---- YOu are stuff hahahaha.
ciril2010 2 years ago
Maybe film Leicas are "real" cameras. But digital Leicas are shit, surpased by far by both Canon & Nikon.
nfaguade 2 years ago
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You are misinformed.
The Leica M8 has a bigger sensor than the Nikon D2xs.
The Leica S2 surpasses the Nikon D3x and Canon 1ds mk 3 by a mile.
hihellocute 2 years ago
The M8 has a bigger sensor than the D2... so what? The D2 is quite old by now.
The S2 hasn't been yet released yet, so what the fuck are you blabbing about.
Also, PJ's must love toys, since you hardly see anyone using one of those Leicas.
nfaguade 2 years ago
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The Leica M8 was released at about the same time as the D2xs.
So you compare the two.
Also, even if the s2 hasn't been released yet, it still pawns the D3x and the 1Ds Mk 3.
hihellocute 2 years ago
As I said, Leica clearly dominates the market, right?
nfaguade 2 years ago
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Yes, it clearly dominates the high-end film and digital rangefinder market and the peerless Leica S2 doesn't even have a competitor.
Stupid Sarcasm you have.
hihellocute 2 years ago
The ragefinder market is a joke when compared to the SLR market. Photojournalists go for Canon/Nikon SLRs for a reason.
And the Leica S2 has a competitor, Hasselblad mainly, and all other medium format cameras.
nfaguade 2 years ago
It's like saying that the compact car market is a joke compared to the sports car market.
Try bringing a huge slr on the streets and then try a rangefinder. You won't get noticed as much when you bring the rangefinder.
I meant the Leica S2 doesn't have a "DIRECT" competitor. No other camera manufacturer makes a camera with this sensor size.
The LEica S2 is the size of a Nikon D3 but has a sensor that is larger.
And Canons/Nikons are just toys.
hihellocute 2 years ago
Y'see, everything you said can be ignored with your latest comment.
Cameras like the Nikon D3 hardly are anything like a toy. Leicas, on the other hand, being pricey expensive and elitist devices which are used almost only by rich photographers could actually be branded as expensive toys.
Besides, your stupid ass arrogant attitude makes you a complete fool. Do you think you'll be a better fotographer because you use a Leica?
nfaguade 2 years ago
Leica M8 is pure German engineering.
Nikon and Canon are just crappy japanese cameras.
hihellocute 2 years ago
And? Both Canon and Nikon have been doing way more engineering wonders than Leica ever did.
Damn you are stupid. Probably don't even own a Leica.
nfaguade 2 years ago
Leica Lenses are considered by most photographers to be superior to Canon and Nikon lenses.
If you don't know that, you robably are new to photography.
hihellocute 2 years ago
I wasn't talking about lenses, neither about their quality, you stupid ass.
nfaguade 2 years ago
Maybe in the past, but not these days. The Nikon 14-24mm clearly whoops the Leica 18mm at wide open AND it's a zoom.
You probably haven't been keeping up.
cheng2006 2 years ago
I believe that Olympus and Pentax might be even more innovative than Canon or Nikon. Canon and Nikon simply capitalize on the customers owning their old lenses. So the try to much new digital cameras to use all those legacly lenses. That's backward thinking in my opinion. Olympus designed a brand new format in 2001, which makes lenses more compacts. That's a progress. 24/36mm sensors contribute to clunky equipment. And I know what I am talking about because I have an A900.
dvamateur 2 years ago
So you are comparing 4/3 to 35mm?
It's like saying compacts are better than SLRs. Each camera has it's uses.
nfaguade 2 years ago
4/3 is uncomparably bigger than compact camera sensors. I find myself shooting much more with my Olympus E-500 than the Sony A900 simply due to the size. I believe Olympus got it really right when it comes to the size. The 35mm equipment is just too huge for my taste. That's why I am very intrigued by this Leica, because it has a large sensor, and yet the size of the camera allows you to take pictures that you wouldn't otherwise be permitted to take with a clunky 35mm SLR.
dvamateur 2 years ago
Now you are talking personal preferences.
nfaguade 2 years ago
This is just a rangefinder camera with a digital sensor. a 35mm film rangefinder (like a leica) is exactly the same size, if size is the reason you dont shoot film, why dont you just get a 35mm film rangefinder?
IanJackes 2 years ago
well the hasselblad h3d is huge but they give outstanding results.
in the pro level, size doesn't matter.
what matters is that the camera gives great results.
hihellocute 2 years ago
Using a Leica doesn't make you a better photographer, but you sure feel better knowing that you have the best equipment.
Guidussify 2 years ago
It is not the best equipment.
nfaguade 2 years ago
It doesn't have to be the best. Is Ferrari the best? No. You can smoke the ferrari with a blown Saleen Mustang. But that's not the point, is it?
dvamateur 2 years ago
the m8 is not the best.
but the m9 is.
and leica and zeiss lenses are legend compared to nikons and canons
hihellocute 2 years ago
a Nikon 14-24 is a zoom and it out performs the ultrawide zeiss primes like the 21mm
XysteRST205 2 years ago
Well if that isn't one of the most stupid ass statements I've heard in a long time. You're typical of the 'Leica must make better cameras because they're Leica brigade'. Based on Leica's track record with the M8 (and other digital forays so far) I expect a ruck load of problems with the S2 when it's released.
You don't compare any RF camera with an SLR, you muppet. Get a clue!
Fredolow 2 years ago
Yet another immature statement based, I suspect, on zero experience. Try taking your 'real' camera out in the rain and see how far you get with it. It's inexcusable that Leica never provided any form of weather sealing on the M8 especially as the primary use for most will be street work.
Fredolow 2 years ago
If you're stupid enough to take a multi-thousand dollar camera into the rain, you should be buying a Canon or Nikon. If they are damaged, it doesn't really matter too much.
Guidussify 2 years ago
Yeah, that's right. Keep it in it's box or hide it when it rains, because that'll get you the shot, won't it? You're either nothing but a trophy hunter or an ass, you decide. You're certainly not a photographer.
Fredolow 2 years ago
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Btbowie 2 years ago
ok i saw a M8 costed almost like nikon d3 so wtf a leica and no lens, for that money come on, give me at least a pinhole lensish thing, i wonder how much a normal lens will cost for that?
any ways people that only tell you buy a canon or a nikon and my fav Nikon D90
panzarw 2 years ago
Dude, Leicas are really expensive.
They are very good cameras.
ALso, they last a long time especially the lenses.
hihellocute 2 years ago
no lens..wtf!?!? lol how do they know what lens you need?
cutestalien 2 years ago
Are you kidding me with the "no lens" comments? Do you people not know about interchangeable lense cameras? This isn't your little sister's camera. And It's not a surprise that the M8.2 comes without even a starter one, being that lenses are usually more expensive than the body, and most owners already have their own...
AntiFalconPunch 2 years ago
that what i was trying to point out
cutestalien 2 years ago
agreed
spaded 2 years ago
if ur getting a leica, you would know aout what lens you want/need
spaded 2 years ago
I'd love to have one of these.
wijayane 2 years ago
haha if this camera came with a lense, it would probably be twice the retail cost for just the body
usrockband 2 years ago
It probably would be. It's worth buying the body just to be able to use Leica's incredible lenses.
Guidussify 2 years ago
no lense... wtf...
quickgonzalez89 2 years ago
no lens? wtf for that price.... you ge tno lens...... wow leica know how to get there money....
think i'll stick with my nikon
xMandalorex 2 years ago
wait it doesn't come with a lens?
Sirilloh 2 years ago
Were you shooting this video outside? I kept hearing birds.
MJmichand 2 years ago
i dont like that it cant be switched between half and 1/3rd stops.
b52user 2 years ago
4999€ God!
Yousee4 2 years ago
nice, would like to have one too, but the price is steep ... i'll stick with my Canon SX200 IS ... getting the job done
jssiler 2 years ago
Is the new powershoot good? As good as a Leica D-LUX4?
Yousee4 2 years ago
I hope not for the price difference. I've had 4 Canons and I consider myself abusive with cameras. But I get great shots and love my captures. You can go to Flickr and use their camera finder to view photos by camera and decide for yourself. Good luck.
jssiler 2 years ago
ooops see response above ...
jssiler 2 years ago
wll this is more like a DSLR
jojo0827 2 years ago
this is better than a SLR, this is a Leica m8!!
Yousee4 2 years ago 18
black print and black logo! GOOL!
willischow 2 years ago
€4320.-!!!
recordedtube 2 years ago
Wow... that's nice, but rather pricey, and surprisingly large, too.
SoManyDumbPeople 2 years ago
One of the better features is the sapphire glass. The diamond can scratch it, but nothing else.... so when you accidently come at the screen with an ice pick you're lcd screen will be without scratches (not saying the lcd will work from all the pressure lol) ,
for someone like me at university, it would be beneficial since i have all sorts of pens, pencils, razors, staplers in my backpack (art major), and I'd know instead everything else was scrached, and not the screen lol!
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
$8000 AUS and you don't even get a basic lens with it? I love this camera more than anything, but c'mon - throw in a kit lens!
lgerback34 2 years ago 12
A Leica 'kit' lens eg 50mm f2 is over $1000
Markok765 2 years ago
i love this cam
TheRichi2323 1 year ago
Well, just have an NIkon f5 and a hassy, so too bad not an M8, well, must say, the m8 looks really nice and small and doesn't shout "im expensive" thou actually it is.... so someday... I also will have an M8 (or M9??)
Pinguing1 2 years ago
I'm creaming my undies.
arikharris 2 years ago
I think I'm going to get an orgasm if I'll stare at the m8 for too long. lol
it looks really nice when you got it out of the plastic.
A piece of Solid, precision German engineering.
janillo31s 2 years ago 4
Someday i'll be as lucky as you.
someday.....
I'll get one of these.....
and also a hassy perhaps
and a rollei.
nice gear by the way
janillo31s 2 years ago
Who's gonna buy this camera? Leica fanboi's that is. But pros that working for a living i don't see this camera in their camera bag.
rustynasty143 2 years ago
Björn Vaughn and Pete Souza (the official chief photographer in the white house) both work for a living, taking pictures with a Leica M8.2
People that can appreciate something special will use it. SLRs are good for a majority of photographers, but for the photographers that want something else, rangefinders, medium format cameras, and large format cameras work very well.
People that like Leica, do for good reason.
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
This camera is totally overpriced and overrated. I know that there are people out there only enjoing the "leica feeling", but hey, it dont even feels good in your hands!
I am no hater or pretender, i only think that leica goes (for me, a person who makes money whit photography) a wrong way.
I also think that the S2 will be a flop product. Why should somebody buy this overpriced camera? Because its from leica?
Ciao
anticimexxx 2 years ago
There are more then enough people who like it. It is simply perfect. - Take a Rolex. It is the same. If you compare it with a cheap Swatch, you are on the wrong way. I just bought a 8.2 and a 28mm Elmarit. And I'm very very happy. Have a nice day.
Maiwald666 2 years ago
Why would you pay around $3000 for a RANGEFINDER camera when for around the same price you could buy a top of the range nikon or canon SLR WITH A LENS. I know leicas are great but if I had that sort of money to spend on a camera, I would buy a proper nikon slr
jclspedding 2 years ago
because SLRs are too cumbersome for many situations. I have a minolta x-300 and love it, other occasions I will use my sp500uz and will always carry my XA2 (its so light so why not, and its great for stealth shots)
firehandszarb 2 years ago
stevenstreet is right. in 20 years ill still be using my FM2, but i sure as hell won't be using my d90.
AIDSbanana 2 years ago 2
I'm sure you'll have that same opinion in 50 years when digital cameras are near perfection and 1000 times better then current models Stevenstreet... thanks for your wise input.
I myself couldn't say anything really negative on digital simply because I find tons of cameras that prove that digital really works. My favorite digital camera is the Leaf AFi-II since it was designed to perfect all the inconveniences of other medium format digital cameras. But they cost more then Hasselblad :<
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
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fuck digital cameras!
stevenstreet483 3 years ago
i use both, the irony is that film cameras are quicker to operate. Film has a nice aesthetic quality (regardless of how many equivalent megapixels it has). Sometimes a lot of grain can look really good, you cant say the same for CCD noise, aliasing noise and visible pixels at large print sizes. Digital is nice for some situations and is so much better than it was a few years ago.
firehandszarb 2 years ago
Leica has a medium format camera finally and it's excruciatingly expensive. Also, these cameras are not for beginners, so we can all negate the comment on how these cameras won't make you better. The same could be said about someone buying an exotic super car becoming a great driver.
That camera is tried and tested engineering that happens to work with the oldest method of accurate and mechanical shutters in photographic history. It is a proper camera, as a rolls royce is a proper car.
shane6003PQ 3 years ago 4
I want M9 (if full-frame digital). Film looks mutch better, but what will i do about chemical waste.
az9az9az9 3 years ago
Get some help.
deussitus 3 years ago
looks old acts new
stupidsoft111 3 years ago 3
beautiful gadget porn!
Pur11zz 3 years ago 5
leica to much money to spend on a camera
BONDzer007 3 years ago
Leica is far superior to any Japanese camera in terms of build/picture quality. You cannot compare a Porsche to a Lexus, (Both totally different, one far superior)
mith986 3 years ago 5
I wonder why Leicas aren't more widely used.
nfaguade 2 years ago
may because of their price?
pewse 2 years ago
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rustynasty143 3 years ago
Are you saying it's too hard for you to focus? Rangefinder photographers, and Large Format Photographers don't complain, why should you? Leica is a great brand, but the photographer needs to be a photographer, not just a guy that pushes a button with a million automated features.
The quality can be very good if you know how to use it...
shane6003PQ 2 years ago
I dont like auto-focus on any camera, I find that even on my sp500uz I use manual focus, partly because the autofocus can get things wrong and is slow. Manual focus, shutter speed and aperture are all easy to get to grips with if you spend only a little time with it.
not sure I would ever buy a digital leica though (would get a film one if money was no object).
firehandszarb 2 years ago
Autofocus slow?
Hehehehe.
nfaguade 2 years ago
if you are using a digital camera and have shutter lag, autofocus is one of the reasons. When shooting a band or something with a lot of action you want the shutter to fire when you press the button not two seconds later. Manual focus is quick and easy on cameras/lenses which are designed appropriately.
firehandszarb 2 years ago
I guess you never heard of 3D tracking?
Never had a problem with autofocus and concerts. And if I had, I could switch to MF anyway.
nfaguade 2 years ago
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Leica sucks balls stick with Nikon its also so ugly
slangoshi 3 years ago
Leica is a classic...like a benz or bmw.
Kidege 3 years ago 3
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Yes but the quality of Leica is not as good as the quality of Nikon or Canon or even Hassleblad, (this is just my opinion KIDEGE)
slangoshi 3 years ago
hmm, you seem to know alot about cameras. "or even a Hasselblad"???? Hasselblads are medium format cameras, they are relatively slow, the quality is unbeatable, and they cost $36,000. Leicas and Hasselblads are very different, as are Leica's to Nikons and Canons. While the Leica's quality isn't as good as say a Canon, they are still very good, their lenses are sharper that hell, and yes, they're a classic. If you buy a Leica you buy it for a different reason than why you would buy an SLR.
guy1193 3 years ago 3
You buy it for cosmetic reasons?
nfaguade 2 years ago
why are you unpack this in a park?
dtomassi 3 years ago 3