I know this version is quite revered, but I can't stand it. Top registers have such a terrible tone and pitch. I realise this might be intentional, but this is, at it's core, music, so I would expect it to be musical.
@m0ufin I've never heard such nonsense. Music is inseparable form the art. It drives narrative and it is the greatest selling point on Musical Theatre. Just because there are other elements, by no means entails that they are distinct from each other
@tommyk77 Okay? That doesn't tackle my argument at all. Why write it as a musical if music lends nothing to theatre, I agree, but the same can be said in reverse. Why write it as a musical if theatre lends nothing to the music?
I'm not going to dictate your opinions, but you're trying to say one art is operative. I'd say they're both on an equal platform, so you can't say a musical is "about the music" without horribly oversimplifying.
@m0ufin I don't think you've grasped my point. Theatre is a web of artistic elements. To say "Theatre is not about music" is like saying "Mammals are not about blood streams". All parts are necessarily connected. You're trying to cast aside criticism of a component by pretending it is an isolated part of the art form.
@tommyk77 Then you're confused as to how the arts work, I'd suggest. If you blend two styles together in order to make something new, you generally do not take the entire art form of both styles, but pieces of it.
In the case of music and theatre, to say that all the parameters of music apply to theatre would be incorrect. It borrows from music, but it doesn't want to be music in and of itself. The same with modernism and postmodernism, Augustan and Victorian and so on.
@m0ufin I'm a PhD musician, so I think confusion is unlikely (without sounding too pompous). I don't think that musical performance is not assimilated into the genre of musical theatre. It is incredible important still, and as I say, I don't think Lansbury's performance is musical enough. Acting, great, but it's stepping on the music
@tommyk77 If you think a PhD grants you special powers so as never to be confused, then... :P In fact, in this case, it hinders you. As a PhD student myself, though not in the arts, we are often told that our area of expertise is how we begin to see the world and tackle every problem. It's something we must be aware of.
Then I pose my position to you as a question: Can you have great music coupled with great acting and still have terrible theatre or is that an impossibility?
@m0ufin As I mentioned, I'm not trying to use that as an excuse. I'm saying I think a) musical performance is an essential part of theatre b) Lansbury's musical performance was not up to scratch.
As to your question, I'd say it's possible, since music and acting are not the only aspects of theatre.
But what are you achieving right now? I don't like the singing in this clip. Simple as that. Flowery questions or not :-P
i love her interperetation of the character, but i sounds like shes yelling rather than singing, which is the only thing that turns me off about this performance.
i love angela lansbury to bits and think she did a good job, but the accent is really bad and i just think that when you think of the original Sondheim stuff Helena just screams what it was originally
A bit random, but I love the flour. It's so affective. When she kneading the dough and flour's everywhere... Like, there's so much more to the scene. Love it.
Helena Bonham Carter should have studied this and put hell of a lot of energy into her performance and musical numbers and sold them. Not play Mrs. Lovett as a boring goth chick. Angela Rules!
@johnyzero2000 I very strongly disagree, Helena, being in a Tim Burton movie, had to be dark and cold. Angela, however good her voice is, does a nice job with the comical insanity but i'm glad someone portrays Mrs.Lovett as the cold, insensative, and yet still love struck scary lady that she ought to be. and also, angela's voice irritates the shit out of me, it's good but she should have just left the accent out
@MajorFreakout I love Helena but the movie version put me to sleep. I love Burton and everyone casted but I guess it felt too flat to me. I think maybe it would have been better not being a musical version but just a straight version. But I work in theater so I am sure I am bias:) Angela being British and cockney, her accent in the play did not bother me.
@NathanJesseMcCarthy :) and she is Cockney also, check out her autobiography. If you see her early films from England you can really hear that Cockney accent before she moved to America.
@FleetStreetNightmare yes, but i see i'm not the only one to question how successful she is :) by the way, i work on fleet street and it seems to me a crying shame that neither of the haircutting establishments have called themselves 'Sweeney Todd's"!
@firestartertwistedfi Well that is the social class that she was meant to be in, for both Sweeney and Lovett, his shop is supposed to be located in a not-so-well-off part of town, definitely lower class. And really? xD thats awesome! Well someday if I ever gain enough money I want to make a replica of the movie set on Fleet Street and run a pie shop and barber shop out of it maybe, or make it like the London Dungeons but based on the overall history of Sweeney, like a tourist attraction.
Angela es Angela. Es como preguntar quien fue mejor "MAME", si ella o Lucy. Lucille era Lucille. Lo que nos queda es esperar a que Helena pueda ser tán grande como ellas. Por cierto como la Reina de Corazones se ve genial.
Angela does it better than all of them. She does it all. Patti has the funniness of this part does and Helena did try, and I personally like her mysterious of Ms. Lovett's character. But Angela Lansbury cannot be topped.
I'll still always love each of the Ms. Lovett's though. =)
De hecho cada director tenia una vision diferente, una Lovett desquiciada alegre y la otra mas tranquila, pero cada uno hace perfecto su papel y la otra no podria intentar hacerlo.
y Angela tiene 6 golden globe y su version teatral de Sweeney le valio un tony ;)
Exacto! vi una entrevista luego de ver este video ayer y Helena le menciona como Burton le decia que dejara de ser teatral y fuera minimalista (con esas palabras) ya que entre la ropa, maquillaje y decorado ella debia ser sutil.
jjaajaj Angela Lansbury ganó un Tony por este papel. Ella es mucho mejor actriz que Helena. En voz es incomparable, y en acttuación también, POR ALGO tiene el record de mayor cantidad de victorias en los Golden Globes y en los Tonys!!!! Además de ser una de las pocas actrices en haber estado nominada tres veces al Oscar incluso en su papel debut a los 18 años
yeah, helena and johnny can't actually sing, it all was just them whispering melodically and then digitally editing it. this is angela's raw, unedited voice. i
@ChrisTiNaThEFaMe Original movie? The original movie (based off a penny dreadful from the late 1800's) is not a musical and it was made in the early 1900's. Then a play was made (in the early 1970's, I believe?), which is what this late 1970's Broadway musical is based off of. And then the 2007 movie is based off the musical.
My mom has a fear of Sweeney todd (not the person the whole musical) and a hilarious fear of angela lansburys (Dont ask me how!) so when I put this on I went "Mom guess who this is!" all she saw was angela and she went running
idk? i think angela lansbury sounds good, but so does Helena. her voice is nice, but a.l. sounds more tired, but the stretch in her voice annoys me a little.
poor thing...(get it, u know poor thing... a song...from sweeney todd...and her husband died...poor thing...not funny) i guess i shuldnt be makin jokes about tht though
Angela's is meant to be something more motherly,and lovely, yet ironical and a little crazy,but not with the dark tone present in Helena's coldness or Patti's surprise when she sings. I like the 3 versons,thought. Angela is lively and funy,Patti is surprised and a little bit histerical due to seeing the costumer and Helena is extremely cold and dark ( the movie wants this)and just different interpretations of the same woman,so they have similarities of course,but different actor,different soul.
angela lansbury is brilliant. her version of mrs lovett is kind of ironic, because she seems more like alomost a motherly type, instead of creepy, which is great because of how its contradicting itself.
this version of mrs lovett is good, she is more gross and disgusting wich is wat u would expect out of som1 like her if u listen 2 the song haha....the movie version of her is also good just cuz i think it is lol
haha, i was just thinking that if this was in real life, sweeney todd would have ran off screaming if she yelles" Ah Custamar!" and pointed at him with a knife, saying"wait!"
I really prefer Helena Bonham Carter's version in the movie. This lady seems to old for the part, I don't think she sings as well as Helena, and she speaks with rythm more than singing...
I get what your saying, but there really is no age limit for Mrs. Lovett, I mean you have to be women and i would say 30s and up. But Mrs. Lovett doesn't have to be young. Im not really sure who I like better. I did liked Angela Lansbury (the women in this video) because she applied the character better i think. Ive read the original script for Sweeney Todd several times, and Mrs. Lovett is supposed to be very gritty and a bit gross, which is how Angela sung. Helena sung more subtle and sweet.
I understand what you are saying too, maybe it's juste because I first saw the movie and the play after... I just felt like Angela Lansbury makes Mrs Lovett more like a granny, and I can't imagine a granny making pies with people! Hihihi! I found interesting the fact that Helena made her more coloured, more dynamic. I connected more with Mrs Lovett in the movie than in the play for that. But I didn't read the script, so maybe I'm completly wrong too!
Yeah, i agree with you on the granny part. haha. I think for the movie they wanted someone with a voice that wasn't too terribly strong (since not to many movie goers want to hear a load of opera) and I think that was Helena. Her voice is subtle i think, which fits for the movie. And this sounds shallow, but thats the way movies are: I think they also wanted Mrs. Lovett to be more beautiful in the movie, and less nasty. Im just glad they kept the nasty-ness of Mrs. Lovett during worst pies.
I've never seen a granny move that Angela Lansbury's Mrs. Lovett. And if you see the entire play, you'll see Lansbury's Mrs. Lovett hits on Mr. Todd a lot and wants sex. PLUS she's friggin crazy.
HBC just opened her mouth and hoped sound came out. It did come off as subtle though, but when she sang this song the orchestrations overpowerd her and she didn't even seem to understand the subtext she was singing. Angela Lansbury's interpretation ont he other hand will go down in history.
Funny you say that because I feel just the opposite. HBC is just speaking with rhythm. But Angela Lansbury is projecting and really singing and supporting her voice from her abdomen.
The only reason she sounds different than usual here is because of the acccent.I saw an interveiw,and Angela basically said that this was her favorite role.I wonder why big celabrity's like her never post comments on Youtube.
Well she is purposefully sounding strange here and its great but if you want to hear her realy singing voice look into mame and her version of gypsy that gives a much clearer picture of what angela normal voice sounds like.
huh i wonder wat angelas voice actually souds like. thats always been her thing but did anybody realize that she doesnt actually sing like that? shed be alot alot less anoying if she sang nomally. BUT she is still pretty good
Oh my! No, she doesn't really sound like that. You may remember her from your childhood in many musicals (if nothing else, Mrs Potts in Beauty and The Beast?)
She sings well, but this is more of a character voice.
Your screen name is FutureLovett--do you want to play the role some day?
If so, I'm sure you have noticed some actresses (angela) have used different voice where as some (helena) used their own. And of course between them many ppl have done their own interpretation
Nothing wrong with Burton's version. He and Sondheim wanted to concentrate on a version that concentrated on the main characters and actions. I still love it and the OBC. You can own both versions like I do.
i <3 this song. i love lansbury too! the translation is a little off in some places. like instead of when she says "and tastes like ...well pitty" in spanish subtitles it says, "it tastes like...well you know" it could have been "que lastima" which means "(well) what a shame"...there's a few of those throughout as there is a few grammatical mistakes. but subtitles are always appreciated, thanks for posting and thank you for being so considerate to people who are learning the language. :D
There was another video with a MUCH better performance by Angela, but youtube removed it. Also, for all the people saying she sucks, remember that this version is more comedic than Burton's, and that Angela had to sing this like 500 times to a live audience without the voice editing that Helena had in her version.
god, the fact that anyone could sing that part. there's hardly a second to breathe and angela landsbury did it, on stage, while moving around. helena bonham carter did great, but in the movies, they get to record it in the studio & reshoot it however many times til its perfect. it's not the same skill.
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hmm...... well. yes, this woman does play a good mrs. lovett. but i think i like helena better. i think this is a bit too dramatic. but... that's just my opinion.
it's gotta be extremely difficult to play mrs. lovett.
This one is certainly more comedic, whereas Burton's version is more tragic and dark. With that said, I don't think Carter to do this role, and I don't think Lansbury could do the film role, because they're so completely different.
i love her! shes so energetic on stage and adds comedy to the play to not make it seem so depressing like tim burtons version. tim burtons version was good, but i prefer this better :)
notice.. helena says that she has never sung before except for in the shower and there was this scene where they recorded her and she didnt sound like in the movie. they kinda fix/edit the voices before they put them on cd's so yea.. but i also perfer helenas version of all the songs in sweeney todd.
Though I far prefer Helena Bonham Carter's voice, I still think Angela Lansbury is the best Mrs. Lovett. HBC is simply too young, too sexy, too waifish - Lansbury rightly plays her as a burnt-out old hag, a comic, slightly pitiful character.
I was really disappointed in the film,,,LOVE Johnny Depp, and Helena,, but really Angela is this whacked out old lady who you can really "see" catching and cooking cats. I wish Tim Burton hadn't been soooo serious,,, if you've only seen the movie,, by all means PLEASE do yourself a favor and rent this version. It's a whole entirely different "thing"!!!
im sorry but i hate the play. the movie is amazing, but thats partly because its a movie and you can have a lot more varitey with music and special effects. but still. i love helena. shes georgous. and i love johnny depp. the people in the play were kinda ugly.
This was back then in 1979 (actually, the taping was in 1982 I think), when they didn't have those special effects in movies or plays.
And you don't like the play because the people were ugly? Well shame on you, if you judge every play like that. You could say the same about Patti LuPone or Chita Rivera (sorry if I spelled it wrong)
Helena can't even be compared with Angela, that's how great she is.
I hate the fact that people keep stressing the craziness of Angela's version. I mean, it's ridiculous. "Helena is better!!!! This is so crazy. She's so much better at it." I doubt one of you guys phrased it that way, but it's an example. THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT ADAPTATIONS OF ONE CHARACTER.
Patti LuPone took liberty with the character and tried to squeeze humour out of it. The 2005 revival was actually a little more light hearted than the original, which can be seen through Patti's performance.
i get what you're saying, but we still all have our preferences. they're all good. i personally prefer helena's adaption. and being an actress i understand that everyone sees things differently, so once again, i completely get what you're saying
I know I'm going to get flamed but i like helena the most, her voice sounds smoother. I like it better. Angela sounds like she's crapping and singing at the same time.
Heh. I think she's cool. Helena, Angela, and Patti all are pretty good-they have their own unique style. You cant really compare them. They have their different ways to do everything. Not all actors(actresses) can do everything the same as everyone else. Thats why I like all three. =] Now I cant say that the movie was better-because I havent seen the play. But I bet it is just as good.
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helena is married to tim burton. thats why she got the part. it's sad, but true
she was a great actress, but her voice was mediocre.
she
a: sang the song in a studio in parts
b. was doctored beyond belief
c. was still not good
angela has so much charisma and on stage, being way over the top like she is here stands out and looks great, so a film and stage version of a musical are 2 very different things, and the things that work for stage don't transfer well to film, and vice versa.
The subs are way off. Not even dynamic or literal...
Still, Angela and George became my favorites even though I saw them after watching the movie. I still like Helena and Johnny (with his voice much higher than the role was intended to...). But, these are different types of acting, me guesses...
PEOPLE! both angela and helena are VERY talented. you have to understand, there are MANY WAYS to perform and recieve all kinds of performances. helena is certainly better for film, while she would have a VERY rough time pulling of a decent broadway-esque character. i love them both personally. :) its just not fair to compare two such differently talented women!
angela has an air of being the crazy old lady with terrets next door. =] i like her!
but i do think helena is best, she makes ms.lovett seem younger and more sexual, so its easier to see her falling in love with sweeney. patti is second best, she makes it funny and dark at the same time. =]
Ok, the role originated from Angela Lansbury, so you have to give your props to her. She did a great job, I think. And if she hadn't done this, whose to say Helena would've? I loved Helena in the movie, I think she was the perfect fit. But she has said in interviews how much she loved the musical and Angela's portrayal and how she looked up to her. So...give it up for both of them, because that's a difficult song and they both pulled it off pretty well. So did Patty Lupone too! lol
Listen to Helena Boham Carter sing this. Now listen to Angela Lansbury. Nuff Said.
rockinandmockin 3 months ago
@rockinandmockin agreed
AddsMusical 3 months ago
I know this version is quite revered, but I can't stand it. Top registers have such a terrible tone and pitch. I realise this might be intentional, but this is, at it's core, music, so I would expect it to be musical.
tommyk77 4 months ago
@tommyk77 Theatre is not about music. If it were about music, it would be purely a music CD. Theatre is a completely separate and distinct art.
m0ufin 2 months ago
@m0ufin I've never heard such nonsense. Music is inseparable form the art. It drives narrative and it is the greatest selling point on Musical Theatre. Just because there are other elements, by no means entails that they are distinct from each other
tommyk77 1 month ago
@tommyk77 Okay? That doesn't tackle my argument at all. Why write it as a musical if music lends nothing to theatre, I agree, but the same can be said in reverse. Why write it as a musical if theatre lends nothing to the music?
I'm not going to dictate your opinions, but you're trying to say one art is operative. I'd say they're both on an equal platform, so you can't say a musical is "about the music" without horribly oversimplifying.
m0ufin 1 month ago
@m0ufin I don't think you've grasped my point. Theatre is a web of artistic elements. To say "Theatre is not about music" is like saying "Mammals are not about blood streams". All parts are necessarily connected. You're trying to cast aside criticism of a component by pretending it is an isolated part of the art form.
tommyk77 1 month ago
@tommyk77 Then you're confused as to how the arts work, I'd suggest. If you blend two styles together in order to make something new, you generally do not take the entire art form of both styles, but pieces of it.
In the case of music and theatre, to say that all the parameters of music apply to theatre would be incorrect. It borrows from music, but it doesn't want to be music in and of itself. The same with modernism and postmodernism, Augustan and Victorian and so on.
m0ufin 1 month ago
@m0ufin I'm a PhD musician, so I think confusion is unlikely (without sounding too pompous). I don't think that musical performance is not assimilated into the genre of musical theatre. It is incredible important still, and as I say, I don't think Lansbury's performance is musical enough. Acting, great, but it's stepping on the music
tommyk77 1 month ago
@tommyk77 If you think a PhD grants you special powers so as never to be confused, then... :P In fact, in this case, it hinders you. As a PhD student myself, though not in the arts, we are often told that our area of expertise is how we begin to see the world and tackle every problem. It's something we must be aware of.
Then I pose my position to you as a question: Can you have great music coupled with great acting and still have terrible theatre or is that an impossibility?
m0ufin 1 month ago
@m0ufin As I mentioned, I'm not trying to use that as an excuse. I'm saying I think a) musical performance is an essential part of theatre b) Lansbury's musical performance was not up to scratch.
As to your question, I'd say it's possible, since music and acting are not the only aspects of theatre.
But what are you achieving right now? I don't like the singing in this clip. Simple as that. Flowery questions or not :-P
tommyk77 1 month ago
i love her interperetation of the character, but i sounds like shes yelling rather than singing, which is the only thing that turns me off about this performance.
vampirecaptnz 4 months ago
@vampirecaptnz Keep in mind, they are on stage, and must project their voices...
emoTeam95 4 months ago
@emoTeam95 you can project without sounding like your screaming...
vampirecaptnz 4 months ago
@vampirecaptnz It's part of her character, she is excited.
emoTeam95 4 months ago
@emoTeam95 that doesnt even make sense...its okay. relax. dont make my my opinion an argument please...
vampirecaptnz 4 months ago
Esta mal subtitulada
philiaulcopt 5 months ago
I saw this and was all like: SHE'S DOIN IT WRONG!
then I was all like: Aweh! It's a weirdo Mrs. Weasley!
then I was all like: REPLAY!
AbbyReidMcGee 5 months ago
This is certainly my favourite interpretation of the character. Pure gold. <3
MisterLyricist 6 months ago
i love angela lansbury to bits and think she did a good job, but the accent is really bad and i just think that when you think of the original Sondheim stuff Helena just screams what it was originally
TunaEars 6 months ago
I LOVE HELENAS ALOT MORE BUT I LOVE THIS ALOT!!!
maryjane4teamhelena 6 months ago
A bit random, but I love the flour. It's so affective. When she kneading the dough and flour's everywhere... Like, there's so much more to the scene. Love it.
justapathy 6 months ago
I think I would like this better if her voice wasn't so annoying. Helena is the best by far.
ineedapighere 6 months ago
favorite performance
haricotsvert 7 months ago
Helena Bonham Carter should have studied this and put hell of a lot of energy into her performance and musical numbers and sold them. Not play Mrs. Lovett as a boring goth chick. Angela Rules!
johnyzero2000 8 months ago
@johnyzero2000 I very strongly disagree, Helena, being in a Tim Burton movie, had to be dark and cold. Angela, however good her voice is, does a nice job with the comical insanity but i'm glad someone portrays Mrs.Lovett as the cold, insensative, and yet still love struck scary lady that she ought to be. and also, angela's voice irritates the shit out of me, it's good but she should have just left the accent out
MajorFreakout 8 months ago
@MajorFreakout I love Helena but the movie version put me to sleep. I love Burton and everyone casted but I guess it felt too flat to me. I think maybe it would have been better not being a musical version but just a straight version. But I work in theater so I am sure I am bias:) Angela being British and cockney, her accent in the play did not bother me.
kimrabb 7 months ago
i love her but i cringe when americans try to do an english accent lol ... the accent is terrible.
NathanJesseMcCarthy 8 months ago
@NathanJesseMcCarthy She's British............
jbmanch 8 months ago
@jbmanch is she :O ? well i never knew that lol .. but she sounds to steryotypical english not cockney like mrs lovett is ment to be
NathanJesseMcCarthy 8 months ago
@NathanJesseMcCarthy :) and she is Cockney also, check out her autobiography. If you see her early films from England you can really hear that Cockney accent before she moved to America.
kimrabb 7 months ago
@kimrabb awhh well im cockney and she doesnt sound like me..
NathanJesseMcCarthy 7 months ago
Ummm kill me buuuut she sounds a bit like a muppet....
itsdarkinhere14 10 months ago
wtf withs the singing :s
MsMisslovett 10 months ago
I love Angela Lansbury's Mrs. Lovett! She and Helena Bonham Carter are the best Mrs Lovett's.
BombalurinaLestrange 11 months ago
Mrs. Potts
patrickmgaddis 1 year ago
Mrs. Potts!! :D Love this <3
cms0825 1 year ago
Is she English , Italian , Swedish ?????
FriendOfBeard 1 year ago
@FriendOfBeard both Mrs. Lovett and Angela and Lansbury are English
micknjoots89 1 year ago
angela is amazing but i prefer helena but they're different people it's not really fair to compare them
MsMojo731 1 year ago
what accent is she going for, do you think?
firestartertwistedfi 1 year ago
@firestartertwistedfi Cockney accent I would assume, as it would make sense given the time period and social class Mrs. Lovett is assumed to be in
FleetStreetNightmare 10 months ago
@FleetStreetNightmare yes, but i see i'm not the only one to question how successful she is :) by the way, i work on fleet street and it seems to me a crying shame that neither of the haircutting establishments have called themselves 'Sweeney Todd's"!
firestartertwistedfi 10 months ago
@firestartertwistedfi Well that is the social class that she was meant to be in, for both Sweeney and Lovett, his shop is supposed to be located in a not-so-well-off part of town, definitely lower class. And really? xD thats awesome! Well someday if I ever gain enough money I want to make a replica of the movie set on Fleet Street and run a pie shop and barber shop out of it maybe, or make it like the London Dungeons but based on the overall history of Sweeney, like a tourist attraction.
FleetStreetNightmare 10 months ago
she's good at this song but the burning bit.....not so good!!!!!
pingufan11 1 year ago
i like Helena better. :]
DanceBrianDance 1 year ago
@DanceBrianDance You're an idiot.
SteveO1029 1 year ago
@SteveO1029 i'm not an idiot, it's my opinion.
DanceBrianDance 1 year ago
MRS. POTTS!
julieruth35 1 year ago
que bárbara! que interpretación! bien lo dijo Helena; que no le podría llegar jamás a Angela, aunque no fue mala su interpretación ;D
xonyStar 2 years ago
Gotta love Angela.... so much better!!!
MTPippin 2 years ago
Angela es Angela. Es como preguntar quien fue mejor "MAME", si ella o Lucy. Lucille era Lucille. Lo que nos queda es esperar a que Helena pueda ser tán grande como ellas. Por cierto como la Reina de Corazones se ve genial.
Axel23632 2 years ago
Me encanta su interpretacion
Faustococo 2 years ago
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cruellydivile 2 years ago
Angela does it better than all of them. She does it all. Patti has the funniness of this part does and Helena did try, and I personally like her mysterious of Ms. Lovett's character. But Angela Lansbury cannot be topped.
I'll still always love each of the Ms. Lovett's though. =)
TwilightDawning75 2 years ago 4
mate I love you, finally someone doesn't feel the need to put down the ones that are not his favourite to support the one he likes
cruellydivile 2 years ago
prefiero la voz de helena la de angela es horrible si las comparas incluso helena actua mejor, por algo la nominaron a un golden globe
XD
aquariddick 2 years ago
De hecho cada director tenia una vision diferente, una Lovett desquiciada alegre y la otra mas tranquila, pero cada uno hace perfecto su papel y la otra no podria intentar hacerlo.
y Angela tiene 6 golden globe y su version teatral de Sweeney le valio un tony ;)
cruellydivile 2 years ago
No es solo el director. El teatro requiere de actuaciones sumamente corporales, mientras que en el cine debe ser minimalista
EarnestSpeaker 2 years ago
Exacto! vi una entrevista luego de ver este video ayer y Helena le menciona como Burton le decia que dejara de ser teatral y fuera minimalista (con esas palabras) ya que entre la ropa, maquillaje y decorado ella debia ser sutil.
cruellydivile 2 years ago
jjaajaj Angela Lansbury ganó un Tony por este papel. Ella es mucho mejor actriz que Helena. En voz es incomparable, y en acttuación también, POR ALGO tiene el record de mayor cantidad de victorias en los Golden Globes y en los Tonys!!!! Además de ser una de las pocas actrices en haber estado nominada tres veces al Oscar incluso en su papel debut a los 18 años
EarnestSpeaker 2 years ago
Lo que no quita que Helena sea buena actriz no? ;)
cruellydivile 2 years ago
what episode of murder she wrote is this?
firestartertwistedfi 2 years ago 14
what year was this made?
quiroz923 2 years ago
1982.
gimmeacookieplz 2 years ago
wow she really hams it up doesn't she! lol
shes really good :D infact I love almost everyone who has played mrs. lovett
clairbearie46 2 years ago 10
I don't like Angelas Voice! I think Helena is better.
91sweetRose 2 years ago
Helena has no voice at all. It's hardly a whisper and they had to digitally enhance it like crazy :(
sarahtheteenager 2 years ago 2
yeah, helena and johnny can't actually sing, it all was just them whispering melodically and then digitally editing it. this is angela's raw, unedited voice. i
gimmeacookieplz 2 years ago
Well Stephen Sondheim says he prefers actors who sing rather than singers than act.
firestartertwistedfi 2 years ago
LOL it's kind of funny .. but NOTHING I MEAN NOTHING BEATS JOHNNY DEPP!! the original movie is way better :D
ChrisTiNaThEFaMe 2 years ago
This actually came first. :D 197?-198?.
meowbooks 2 years ago
@ChrisTiNaThEFaMe Don't you know that his is the original version?
InspectorKaramazov 1 year ago
@ChrisTiNaThEFaMe Original movie? The original movie (based off a penny dreadful from the late 1800's) is not a musical and it was made in the early 1900's. Then a play was made (in the early 1970's, I believe?), which is what this late 1970's Broadway musical is based off of. And then the 2007 movie is based off the musical.
overthemoo 1 year ago
i like her alot :D x she is so nice and a gr8 mrs lovett, her and Helena both played her gr8 :D x !
5739375026 2 years ago 2
No one is going to beat Angela Lansbury, Helena Bonham Carter is... so shit in comparison.
JoeT1605 2 years ago
My mom has a fear of Sweeney todd (not the person the whole musical) and a hilarious fear of angela lansburys (Dont ask me how!) so when I put this on I went "Mom guess who this is!" all she saw was angela and she went running
nichic96 2 years ago
angela lansbury is unbelievable.
stormtrooper253 2 years ago
idk? i think angela lansbury sounds good, but so does Helena. her voice is nice, but a.l. sounds more tired, but the stretch in her voice annoys me a little.
Sonnet18Fan 2 years ago 2
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the way she says pie sir really annoys me!
fatbob666 3 years ago
She is toooo cool
loveless8610 3 years ago 5
she is just Awesome
operastar1994 3 years ago 3
I Just Heard Angela Husband Dies i was Like oh no i feel sorry for her right now.
operastar1994 3 years ago
poor thing...(get it, u know poor thing... a song...from sweeney todd...and her husband died...poor thing...not funny) i guess i shuldnt be makin jokes about tht though
Free411 3 years ago
Angela's is meant to be something more motherly,and lovely, yet ironical and a little crazy,but not with the dark tone present in Helena's coldness or Patti's surprise when she sings. I like the 3 versons,thought. Angela is lively and funy,Patti is surprised and a little bit histerical due to seeing the costumer and Helena is extremely cold and dark ( the movie wants this)and just different interpretations of the same woman,so they have similarities of course,but different actor,different soul.
FlameWish 3 years ago 27
true, true
Free411 3 years ago
@FlameWish Makes you wonder what would happen if Mrs. Lovett was combined with all these traits that each of these actresses gave to this character.
wrestlemaniac829 9 months ago
angela lansbury is better than helena bonham carter. but not loads better.
jan0009683 3 years ago 3
angela lansbury is brilliant. her version of mrs lovett is kind of ironic, because she seems more like alomost a motherly type, instead of creepy, which is great because of how its contradicting itself.
jorgeo23 3 years ago 36
@jorgeo23 Um..... she sounds a bit like a Chinese/Australian hybrid though.
inamonianim 1 year ago
no es la memjor señora lovets que he vsto en mi vida
es la mejor
i love sweeny todd!!!
como siempre lo he dicho lo priemro es lo mejor
jajajja
sandralovvets 3 years ago
this version of mrs lovett is good, she is more gross and disgusting wich is wat u would expect out of som1 like her if u listen 2 the song haha....the movie version of her is also good just cuz i think it is lol
mooglemog4 3 years ago 3
haha, i was just thinking that if this was in real life, sweeney todd would have ran off screaming if she yelles" Ah Custamar!" and pointed at him with a knife, saying"wait!"
supershock007 3 years ago 6
Omg so true ! :D
rofl
XD
darkodar 3 years ago
Sweeney never runs from anyone. Never.
Mario54World 3 years ago
people stop dissin this play i love the movie too but this is clasic acting so if u dont like it dont watch it
davelds 3 years ago 2
Do you mean the "Broadway version" because even the movie is considered an opera.
BroadwayKidNamedJosh 3 years ago
I really prefer Helena Bonham Carter's version in the movie. This lady seems to old for the part, I don't think she sings as well as Helena, and she speaks with rythm more than singing...
InaccessibleEtoile 3 years ago
I get what your saying, but there really is no age limit for Mrs. Lovett, I mean you have to be women and i would say 30s and up. But Mrs. Lovett doesn't have to be young. Im not really sure who I like better. I did liked Angela Lansbury (the women in this video) because she applied the character better i think. Ive read the original script for Sweeney Todd several times, and Mrs. Lovett is supposed to be very gritty and a bit gross, which is how Angela sung. Helena sung more subtle and sweet.
BroadwayKidNamedJosh 3 years ago 5
I understand what you are saying too, maybe it's juste because I first saw the movie and the play after... I just felt like Angela Lansbury makes Mrs Lovett more like a granny, and I can't imagine a granny making pies with people! Hihihi! I found interesting the fact that Helena made her more coloured, more dynamic. I connected more with Mrs Lovett in the movie than in the play for that. But I didn't read the script, so maybe I'm completly wrong too!
InaccessibleEtoile 3 years ago 2
Yeah, i agree with you on the granny part. haha. I think for the movie they wanted someone with a voice that wasn't too terribly strong (since not to many movie goers want to hear a load of opera) and I think that was Helena. Her voice is subtle i think, which fits for the movie. And this sounds shallow, but thats the way movies are: I think they also wanted Mrs. Lovett to be more beautiful in the movie, and less nasty. Im just glad they kept the nasty-ness of Mrs. Lovett during worst pies.
BroadwayKidNamedJosh 3 years ago 2
good point
Free411 3 years ago
I've never seen a granny move that Angela Lansbury's Mrs. Lovett. And if you see the entire play, you'll see Lansbury's Mrs. Lovett hits on Mr. Todd a lot and wants sex. PLUS she's friggin crazy.
Mario54World 3 years ago 2
HBC just opened her mouth and hoped sound came out. It did come off as subtle though, but when she sang this song the orchestrations overpowerd her and she didn't even seem to understand the subtext she was singing. Angela Lansbury's interpretation ont he other hand will go down in history.
Mario54World 3 years ago
Funny you say that because I feel just the opposite. HBC is just speaking with rhythm. But Angela Lansbury is projecting and really singing and supporting her voice from her abdomen.
Mario54World 3 years ago 2
I honestly like the way the songs sound in the film, but then again everything in a movie's made to be perfect and shit. XD
nonplasmaant 3 years ago
She has laringitis when she sang this song and she still sound AMAZING!
chorusline5678 3 years ago 2
i love tims version of this play...but the original is so much better..their emotions are so much more..well raw if you wanna put it that way hha
AbieticAcid 3 years ago
The only reason she sounds different than usual here is because of the acccent.I saw an interveiw,and Angela basically said that this was her favorite role.I wonder why big celabrity's like her never post comments on Youtube.
dfthompson 3 years ago
Well she is purposefully sounding strange here and its great but if you want to hear her realy singing voice look into mame and her version of gypsy that gives a much clearer picture of what angela normal voice sounds like.
Selendomono 3 years ago 3
That song is really impressing. I love it.
SpikeyBoy15 3 years ago
Aww, her voice is so cute!
RivaJane 3 years ago 4
yes that is true
FutureLovett 3 years ago
huh i wonder wat angelas voice actually souds like. thats always been her thing but did anybody realize that she doesnt actually sing like that? shed be alot alot less anoying if she sang nomally. BUT she is still pretty good
FutureLovett 3 years ago
Oh my! No, she doesn't really sound like that. You may remember her from your childhood in many musicals (if nothing else, Mrs Potts in Beauty and The Beast?)
She sings well, but this is more of a character voice.
Your screen name is FutureLovett--do you want to play the role some day?
If so, I'm sure you have noticed some actresses (angela) have used different voice where as some (helena) used their own. And of course between them many ppl have done their own interpretation
Danana26 3 years ago
Nothing wrong with Burton's version. He and Sondheim wanted to concentrate on a version that concentrated on the main characters and actions. I still love it and the OBC. You can own both versions like I do.
Ringreader 3 years ago
i <3 this song. i love lansbury too! the translation is a little off in some places. like instead of when she says "and tastes like ...well pitty" in spanish subtitles it says, "it tastes like...well you know" it could have been "que lastima" which means "(well) what a shame"...there's a few of those throughout as there is a few grammatical mistakes. but subtitles are always appreciated, thanks for posting and thank you for being so considerate to people who are learning the language. :D
IrisInTwilight 3 years ago 2
I LOVE ANGELA LANSBURY!
KKMaureen 3 years ago 2
the should murder she wrote a broadway production
Bangs09 3 years ago
lol I love Angela so much
Download the original version of the song she sings. It's so great. :D
Kelvana 3 years ago
You'll notice that it's in a different key than the movie. A half step higher.
xACDCx2 3 years ago
SHE'S A MOG!!!
Theone4u000 3 years ago 2
I Likee this version,
but i loved it when patti lupone sang
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RockOutLoud252 3 years ago
Remember;
Tim Burton's version is...uhm...darker than this one, I'd say.
Either way, I like both, but, different version
letskillLAUREN 3 years ago
i hate when i get thumbs down for an honest opinion. i didn't insult anyone.
sheesh...
becccaxcrazy 3 years ago 4
the way she has her hair looks like dog ears O_O
Yamiyokun 3 years ago
There was another video with a MUCH better performance by Angela, but youtube removed it. Also, for all the people saying she sucks, remember that this version is more comedic than Burton's, and that Angela had to sing this like 500 times to a live audience without the voice editing that Helena had in her version.
jackal912 3 years ago 2
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Helena Bonham Carter is 50000 times better
trickyfeet 3 years ago
I agree. More like 500000000 times better. I cringe when I hear this version.
HelenaLover26 3 years ago 2
Thank You
trickyfeet 3 years ago
god, the fact that anyone could sing that part. there's hardly a second to breathe and angela landsbury did it, on stage, while moving around. helena bonham carter did great, but in the movies, they get to record it in the studio & reshoot it however many times til its perfect. it's not the same skill.
eviltella 3 years ago 3
shes' so awesome! i love the song by anyone who sings it
KaryuudoUzamaki 3 years ago
I Love Her But I also Love Helena The Best
operastar1994 3 years ago
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hmm...... well. yes, this woman does play a good mrs. lovett. but i think i like helena better. i think this is a bit too dramatic. but... that's just my opinion.
it's gotta be extremely difficult to play mrs. lovett.
becccaxcrazy 3 years ago
This woman!?
Dude, it's Angela Lansbury!
glowstickhearts 3 years ago 5
lol, well i didn't know that.
becccaxcrazy 3 years ago
if it wasnt dramatic on stage then it wouldnt keep the audiences interest.
mortalpixie 3 years ago
I hate to say it, but I don't like Angela in this role. I love Patti Lupone as Mrs. Lovett ... I don't think anyone else can do it like she can!
JmB8207 3 years ago 3
This one is certainly more comedic, whereas Burton's version is more tragic and dark. With that said, I don't think Carter to do this role, and I don't think Lansbury could do the film role, because they're so completely different.
tdsipes 3 years ago 3
i love her! shes so energetic on stage and adds comedy to the play to not make it seem so depressing like tim burtons version. tim burtons version was good, but i prefer this better :)
nadineeeC3 3 years ago
God I love how she portrays Mrs. Lovett!
Alenkuri 3 years ago
notice.. helena says that she has never sung before except for in the shower and there was this scene where they recorded her and she didnt sound like in the movie. they kinda fix/edit the voices before they put them on cd's so yea.. but i also perfer helenas version of all the songs in sweeney todd.
anaviMint 3 years ago
Though I far prefer Helena Bonham Carter's voice, I still think Angela Lansbury is the best Mrs. Lovett. HBC is simply too young, too sexy, too waifish - Lansbury rightly plays her as a burnt-out old hag, a comic, slightly pitiful character.
JeeRant 3 years ago 2
I was really disappointed in the film,,,LOVE Johnny Depp, and Helena,, but really Angela is this whacked out old lady who you can really "see" catching and cooking cats. I wish Tim Burton hadn't been soooo serious,,, if you've only seen the movie,, by all means PLEASE do yourself a favor and rent this version. It's a whole entirely different "thing"!!!
formosadavid 3 years ago
im sorry but i hate the play. the movie is amazing, but thats partly because its a movie and you can have a lot more varitey with music and special effects. but still. i love helena. shes georgous. and i love johnny depp. the people in the play were kinda ugly.
TinyDancer848 3 years ago
Wow, that's so polite.
This was back then in 1979 (actually, the taping was in 1982 I think), when they didn't have those special effects in movies or plays.
And you don't like the play because the people were ugly? Well shame on you, if you judge every play like that. You could say the same about Patti LuPone or Chita Rivera (sorry if I spelled it wrong)
Helena can't even be compared with Angela, that's how great she is.
doggys235 3 years ago 3
Oh, just to say this, I don't find Patti or Chita or Angela ugly, just naming some famous Broadway legends.
doggys235 3 years ago
so who do you like? helena B.C.? pfft!
sorcerersinger24601 3 years ago
WAIT!!! forget the comment i said earlier. i didn't read it with my glasses, i thought you said something else.
also, i mean to say is that helena is good, but not my very favorite.
you know what? i was never here. sorry.
sorcerersinger24601 3 years ago
don't judge them because you think they're ugly..the play is good and funny,but yes,I prefer HBC voice.
IPandcompany 3 years ago
me2
Lilanadlovetv 3 years ago
I hate the fact that people keep stressing the craziness of Angela's version. I mean, it's ridiculous. "Helena is better!!!! This is so crazy. She's so much better at it." I doubt one of you guys phrased it that way, but it's an example. THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT ADAPTATIONS OF ONE CHARACTER.
Patti LuPone took liberty with the character and tried to squeeze humour out of it. The 2005 revival was actually a little more light hearted than the original, which can be seen through Patti's performance.
doggys235 3 years ago
i get what you're saying, but we still all have our preferences. they're all good. i personally prefer helena's adaption. and being an actress i understand that everyone sees things differently, so once again, i completely get what you're saying
loveactress93 3 years ago
I know I'm going to get flamed but i like helena the most, her voice sounds smoother. I like it better. Angela sounds like she's crapping and singing at the same time.
darkenicefire 3 years ago
I agree, don't worry.
Yukilordoflemons 3 years ago
Heh. I think she's cool. Helena, Angela, and Patti all are pretty good-they have their own unique style. You cant really compare them. They have their different ways to do everything. Not all actors(actresses) can do everything the same as everyone else. Thats why I like all three. =] Now I cant say that the movie was better-because I havent seen the play. But I bet it is just as good.
Anyway, thats my input. =) They all rock.
Period.
LiSaFrAnKGoNeGoTh 3 years ago 2
it was funny how she said 'ah custama' in the begining but i still like the movie better
binxxybluewolf 3 years ago
1. Helena is not married to Tim.They live together.
2. I quote Helena:"Sexual favors don't get me anything."Helena had to do the audition just as everyone else.
3. She wasn't a great actress.SHE IS A GREAT ACTRESS.(stress on the 'IS')(and will be :p)
4. For a non-professional singer,her voice is very good(and way better than the voice of some modern day 'singers')
5. every actor had to sing in parts in the studio.
Musical & movie R 2 different things as you say yourself,don't compare them
drinake 3 years ago 6
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ok
helena is married to tim burton. thats why she got the part. it's sad, but true
she was a great actress, but her voice was mediocre.
she
a: sang the song in a studio in parts
b. was doctored beyond belief
c. was still not good
angela has so much charisma and on stage, being way over the top like she is here stands out and looks great, so a film and stage version of a musical are 2 very different things, and the things that work for stage don't transfer well to film, and vice versa.
michellethehawtie 3 years ago
The subs are way off. Not even dynamic or literal...
Still, Angela and George became my favorites even though I saw them after watching the movie. I still like Helena and Johnny (with his voice much higher than the role was intended to...). But, these are different types of acting, me guesses...
Kimeru 3 years ago
She is a way better crazy person but I prefer helena. But they fit there parts.
InuCullen 3 years ago 2
thany you, musicXchicaXoxo. That's excatly wat im trying to put out and u just worded wat im tryin to say so corretly.
Free411 3 years ago
PEOPLE! both angela and helena are VERY talented. you have to understand, there are MANY WAYS to perform and recieve all kinds of performances. helena is certainly better for film, while she would have a VERY rough time pulling of a decent broadway-esque character. i love them both personally. :) its just not fair to compare two such differently talented women!
musicXchicaXoxo 3 years ago 7
now THIS makes sense :D Agree: Just love them both ^^
drinake 3 years ago
Ehhhhh I like movie version wayyyyyy betr
SassySM 3 years ago
honestly, me too. And it had nothing to do with my obsession with Johnny Depp............ ok maybe it does LOL
memiradcliffe 3 years ago
I love how he just keeps trying to chew the pie through the whole song. XDD funny..
BelovedCaptain 3 years ago
spongebobmusicals
helena would so NOT pass out. she might not be able to keep her breath for a song like this but still, and i agree with "shakennotstired".
HelenaMcEntireDepp 3 years ago
angela has an air of being the crazy old lady with terrets next door. =] i like her!
but i do think helena is best, she makes ms.lovett seem younger and more sexual, so its easier to see her falling in love with sweeney. patti is second best, she makes it funny and dark at the same time. =]
HelenaMcEntireDepp 3 years ago
I love how she sings this. Angela, Helena and Patti are my favorites
ninja452 3 years ago
patti & angela
are the best
they can truly visaulize mrs.lovett
look and sing the part
with the HEARTY voice <33
miiszkelsz 3 years ago
its kinda annoying people who argue whos a better mrs.lovett
helena has a great role 4 mrs.lovett in the movies
angela is a great role 4 broadway
pokemonfangirl3 3 years ago
I watch this dvd often...Angela Lansbury is the BEST :)
millie73 3 years ago 3
Ok, the role originated from Angela Lansbury, so you have to give your props to her. She did a great job, I think. And if she hadn't done this, whose to say Helena would've? I loved Helena in the movie, I think she was the perfect fit. But she has said in interviews how much she loved the musical and Angela's portrayal and how she looked up to her. So...give it up for both of them, because that's a difficult song and they both pulled it off pretty well. So did Patty Lupone too! lol
ShakinNotStirred 3 years ago 2
My thoughts EXACTLY!! Thank you!!!
Nohj111 3 years ago
No problemo!!
ShakinNotStirred 3 years ago