Maybe, Jordan Mechner is talking about REMAKE 4 MOBILE PLATFORMS such as SMARTPHONES & TABLETS! Karateka is a very simple GAME! Combat Stance to fight and Running Stance to run & stop! Punch and Kick on High, Mid, & Low! That's it! Death Scenes would be fall back off mountain, gate slam down on U, beat (bite) to death by guards (eagle) then boss, & get kick in nut by lady in wrong stance! Why didn't she use that before kidnap? It's most powerful kick in GAME!! ;-)
Wow, I can't have FREEDOM OF SPEECH without my COMMENTS getting CENSORED on here, FUCKING NAZI!! >=(
GAMEPLAY is what GAMERS wants....
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If GAMERS wants STORY more than GAMEPLAY, then those 2D Adventure Games like King's Quest (1984), Maniac Mansion (1987), Grim Fandango (1998), & so on would never ever die, but they did!! {roll my eyes}
SEARCH & READ "ADOLF HITLER's PAINTINGS"
If HITLER played FPS GAMES, he would be NORMAL & HUMAN!! >=P
@IronJackalTw My goodness. You are still going you troll? How are you not banned for all your moronicness? I mean it, give me a thumbs up if you believe IronJackalTw is one of the dumbest people on the PLANET.
You are NOTHING and will continue to be NOTHING, you will NEVER make a difference in video games at all and they continually prove you wrong on a 100% BASIS. Even if I took a shit right here and now, that piece of shit would be smarter then you. same with my puke and piss as well.
" "I literally cried during Shadow of the Colossus." What a pussy. "
I agreed with U against these Artsy-Fartsy! If Shadow of the Colossus is better VIDEO GAMES, then why didn't it have a bigger fan base than The Legend of Zelda of similar VIDEO GAMES!? {roll my eyes}
@SevenGramRock Some people only cry when something tragic happens, and not when they're playing a goddamn videogame. It shows how artistically and intellectually deprived these gamers are when they're trying to pass off killing sixteen giant monsters (two of which aren't even giant) as deep enriching form of art.
Are video games art? concidering that expression itself is art then the ability of expressing your whole world better that you could express it with any other kind of art such as singing,dancing,writting or drawingand etc, is definitely one of the most important kind of arts...it is one of the strongest ways to literally show people your world...to me it is from the most beautiful kind of arts...
Video Games at its BLACK HEART is still a GAME! That's why that it is called Video..... GAME! It's not called Video..... ART! I will never paid any of my Hard-Earned MONEY 4 Video ART, but I'll always paid my Hard-Earned MONEY 4 Video GAMES!! {roll my eyes}
ART is Jackson Pollock and their Artsy-Fartsy QUEERS doing their RETARDED CRAP! ART is just PAINT on a SOCCER BALL that we, GAMERS, used to play a GAME with it! ART is optional, but GAMEPLAY is not!! >=)
Very true, games can definatly be and should be taken seriously.
If people think its a distraction, stupid or childish then they are just ignorant.
Games have been the most successful way of entertainment for me :-).
Also Game developers should be recognised overall alot more as people in the movie industry are all over the news when a new film is released but to be honest people who make the games are alot more intelligent and im sure are more dedicated as well.
Oh, I see. Well, when I mentioned that I played Call of Duty, it was to say I don't expect some artistic masterpiece from every game. Besides, Call of Duty isn't as trendy as people think. It just appears so because of fanboys and how often it's mentioned. If anything, people have been bashing the series. Hell, I wasn't interested in the series until I wondered how bad some of the games can be.
When I say trends in games, I mean elements that get ridiculous amounts of praise.
So I find Call of Duty's entertaining. It's not like it's the only game I play. I also play various RPGs, Adventure games, Puzzle games, and Racers. Hell, anyone who glance over my videos would easily mistaken me as just another fighting game fan.
Just because someone enjoys Call of Duty doesn't mean anything in regards to this argument. You're a fool to think it matters.
Video Games R GAME kind of like CHESS ever since PONG! Our Video Games is not a RELIGIOUS (ART) DOGMA!! >=)
What's matter, GAY-ARSE Ted Haggard FAGGOTS playing your ARTsy CASUAL GAMES? Forget your way back to your GAY-ARSE Churches of NON-SENSE! Stop SISSIFIED our Hardcore VIDEO GAMES!! >=(
Whether games are art or not is a very dumb question, it would be like asking whether a canvas with paint on it is art or not; the answer is obviously no.Are games an artform?now there's a proper question! Games are an artform just as music, video and pictures is an artform,but that doesn't mean every game or canvas or piece of audio you experience is art,it means it can be,and of course it can be, you can't prove that statement wrong.Whether games are an artform or not is not important at all.
Is CHESS a GAME or an ART? Video GAMES R successor of OLDER GAMES such as CHESS, RISK Board GAME, and so on based on WAR, which may contain ART or not! I had been PLAYING this HOBBY OF MINE since my early YOUTH! Now, GET THE FUCK out of my Video Game HOBBY! What's IMPORTANT to me and other REAL GAMERS is that I and other GAMERS don't have to waste our Hard Earned MONEY on CLUELESS IDIOTS that don't know how to CRAFT our Video GAMES correctly 4 our HeteroSexual GUYS!! >=(
In Video GAMES, ART must be subservient to GAME! This is its Hierarchy & Pecking Order, which had been 4 a long time since our early VIDEO GAMES & will continue to be so into FUTURE! What YOUR GAY-ARSE Pink ARTsy-FARTsy KINDS wanted is just not going to work, so fucking GET USED TO Video Games R GAME!! >=)
SEARCH & READ "Game wiki"
If GAME oppressed your ART, just get the fuck out of VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY & do something else that is ARTsy outside of my VIDEO GAMES!! >=(
@IronJackalTw You're a tragic human being, I've seen your comments months back saying the same shit. Games are an artform just like films are, just because you don't think chess is art doesn't mean games like Braid isn't to some people. It's a matter of opinion what games are considered art but clearly games are an artform, try and prove me wrong. Do yourself and others a favor and get out in the sunshine once or yell at a pillow instead of trolling on youtube all day long.
BRAID is GAY just like your ARTsy LOW-LIFE that hated our PIXEL KILLING HOBBY 4 as long as I remember it from USELESS & CORRUPT Politicians (LATENT GAY) to 3RD RATED & OVER-RELIGIOUS Parents with GAY KIDS!! =/
BRAID is just an Un-Original WANNABE of our Side-Scrollers ever since our ARCADE GAME ERA where our LESS GAY GAME DESIGNERS with ENGINEER BACKGROUD made most of our MANLY Video Games than any of your ARTsy-FARTsy Un-Original SHIT that encroaching on our TURF today!! >=(
@IronJackalTw And yet they are making more money than the movie industry and the music industry combined... Kinda huge proof that you are just talking, (or trolling.) off your ass.
Does that mean that 100% of those people that buy new great games every year are gay? because the more you speak, the more I am amazed that youtube just doesn't ban you for the sheer stupidity you bring to this site. Hell, my shit is smarter than you. That is how sad of a human being you are.
SEARCH & READ "US government officially recognizes video games as art"
Go ahead on STEALING & CONNING those TAX MONEY like bunch of CROOKS & LIARS! That's as if any of U have actual TALENTS to make ORIGINAL First-Class VIDEO GAMES like they did in ARCADE GAME ERA, which is our AMAZING Video Game ERA because GAME Developers made BEST Advanced Game TECH we have now!! >=)
Those ARCADE GAMES that I listed MADE MONEY, too....
Housing BUBBLE come CRASHING down with TOXIC LOANS 4 people, who had no business in owning HOUSES at all, so it will be with Video Gaming BUBBLE come CRASHING down with ARTsy-FARTsy SUBSIDY making GAY-ARSE ARTsy Video Games that our HeteroSexual GAMERS don't want to PLAY with nor to FUND them with at all!! {roll my eyes}
All of your VIDEO GAMES R ART Video Game Makers made 3RD RATED Video Games so far! It is not our TAX PAYERS' JOB to SUBSIDIZE your ARTsy-FARTsy BULL SHIT!! >=(
@IronJackalTw If YOU'RE having so much PROBLEMS with your MANLINESS that you have to prove it through GAMES then that's FINE as long as you don't TAKE it OUT on other PEOPLE by spreading douchebag COMMENTS that doesn't make any SENSE.
Fucking hell you are one sad man sitting in your basement all day writing comments like that. You don't have any extra lives so why don't you go spend your only one trying at least to feel happiness once in a while?
I don't have a BASEMENT in my house! Besides, I can take my LAPTOP & my SMART PHONE anywhere these days! U R obviously an ARTsy-FARTsy BIGOT, who had HATRED & RESENTMENT toward PEOPLE that R Higher IQ than U! Just U should know that our NERDS & our GEEKS built our COMPUTERS & VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY, & they R both TECH-driven INDUSTRIES!! >=)
BTW, U R one that have problem with our MANLY Video Game HOBBY! U R one insisted that we have to play with your PINK JOYSTICKS!! >=(
What's matter MUSICAL TRASH, or is that WANNABE MUSICAL TRASH with NO TALENT? Did U run out of your MARIJUANA to smoke on now? R U too STUPID to find YOUR WAY back to your GAY-ARSE ARTsy-FARTsy QUEER CLUBS!? {roll my eyes}
This is INTERNET! Don't like TECHNOLOGY? I suggest that U would GET THE FUCK OFF OUR INTERNET, since U R obviously using our TECH! R U a fucking STUPID SHIT that can't figure out that U R on our TURF all this time, ARTsy-FARTsy worthless TRASH!! >=P
Woah. Something interesting was just pointed out. Thinking over again about your comments, something becomes clear. You're not stupid. You're not trolling. You're just emotionally unstable and trying to take it out on others. It's especially clear with you going into that irrelevant talk about the housing crash.
Well, if I knew you were one of those internet emos, I wouldn't have even acknowledged your existence.
What's the matter, EMO ARTsy-FARTsy FREAK? I'm a very LOGICAL person, ATHEIST, Pro-Science, & Pro-Technology! Did I hit right on NAIL on what U ARTsy-FARTsy CROOKS really R?....
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Housing BUBBLE is caused by bunch of CROOKS selling TOXIC LOANS (DERIVATIVES with Trump Up AAA RATING) to a lot of INVESTORS with NAIVE KNOWLEDGE of what they R really putting their INVESTMENT (MONEY) to! In the end, INVESTORS R Ripe-Off & NEWLY OWNERS R Ripe-Off, too!! {roll my eyes}
Dante in DMC 5 is made by your ARTsy-FARTsy GAY SHIT from QUEER Ninja Theory, which is bunch of FAGGOTS, that hated our VIDEO GAMES R GAME and try to ruin that 4 all of our HARDCORE GAMERS out there!! >=(
@IronJackalTw What? Honestly, now I don't even fucking know what you're saying anymore. housing crisis to DMC in as little of 5 fucking words? I am now convinced that you have SEVERE emotional problems and severe mental stability. I am, quite frankly, surprised you don't forget to breath, that is how messed up you are. Also, There are hardcore games being made that are artsy, Dead Space 2 has one of the hardest modes in a video game ever made and a great story. does that equal gay to you then?
"There are hardcore games being made that are artsy, Dead Space 2"
FUCK your ARTsy CRAP! That's what's wrong in our HARDCORE Video Games! Too many had fall into fallacy of trying to make ART instead of making GAME!! >=(
In GOOD OLD DAYS, we have more CHOICES than what we have now a day! Those R days when Video Game Developers R willing to push limit of both TECH & GAMEPLAY not your Sissy ART (REMAKE)!! >=(
What do you know about competitive gaming? Someone who only use games as toys but claim to know competitive gaming, that's a laugh. You're like those kids who build card castles rather than play War. I won't be surprised if you were the fool who helped my killstreak last night in Black Ops. Easiest set of kills in my life. Or perhaps you'd blame the Graphic Whores over "unbalanced teirs", "noobtubers", and other pathetic excuses.
Graphic Whores are the bulk of artsy fartsy. As for "pushing the LIMIT of 3D Game Graphics", that is the most pretentious thing you ever said. Funny, how I keep drawing parallels between you and artsy fartsy.
You're not a hardcore gamer. You will never be a hardcore gamer. You're just going with the fad like all the other angsty, pretentious emos. Quite sad, how my little trolling 15 hours ago caused you to rage so much. Two paragraphs, that rage of yours is so delicious.
Our Hardcore FPS Gamers R WHY that we have those 3D GRAPHIC ACCELERATORS to began with! Another word, we R those Gamers, who foot BILLS of those 3D TECH not your ARTsy-FARTsy LAME-ARSE Casual Gamers! Do your SOLITAIRE need 3D Graphic Accelerator!? >=P
Your ARTsy-FARTsy Adventure GAMES died long ago....
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It is your FAULT 4 dropping the ball! Do U know WHY? That's because those GAMES gone too GAY! Stop INFESTING our Hardcore Games with your same DISEASE!! >=(
U R one that R mad at our GAMERS when most GAMERS R HeteroSexual Boys and now HeteroSexual Men! We want our Hardcore Video games to be Testosterone-filled, Manly, and most of all, VIDEO GAMES R GAME kind of GOODNESS!! >=P
SEARCH & READ "What Went Wrong With Metroid Other M"
That's while your QUEER-ARSE kind want Estrogen-filled, ARTsy-FARTsy, and your VIDEO GAMES R ART kind of BULL SHIT!! >=(
Do U know WHY that MARKET 4 Adventure Game Genre even existed at all on our Home Computers!? {roll my eyes}
Roberta Williams is SECOND MOTHER of many GAMERS out there, which is something I have to keep repeating here but no one is listening....
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R U angry that JOHNNY is all GROWN-UP now....
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We, Hardcore Gamers, R no longer POWERLESS in choosing KINDS of Video Games that we wanted to play unlike our YOUTH! What we want is what we'll get now!! >=)
VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY is about 40 years old! Pong (Atari 1972), which is [2012-1972=40], & it's YOUNG compared to MUSIC (1877 with Phonograph) & FILM (1891 with Kinetoscope) in USA!! >=)
Adventure Game Genre is about 28 years old! King's Quest (Sierra 1984), which is [2012-1984=28], & it have Storytelling & Narrative CRAP!! ;-)
First-Person Shooter Genre is about 19 years old! Doom (Id Software 1993), which is [2012-1993=19]! Another word, we'll be around 4 a while!! >=P
@IronJackalTw Even then the video game industry has already beaten the entirety of the movie industry in terms of quality and quantity. Hell, kinda sad when you think about how horrible the movie industry has become while the videogame industry keeps beating the living shit out of the movie industry in terms of story quality, however you will most likely make this post out as a attack from a graphic whore, (which I am not.) or some other stupid crap. Also, your spelling is horrible and trollish.
"Even then the video game industry has already beaten the entirety of the movie industry in terms of quality and quantity."
U R joking.... right? U have a lot of FALSE PRIDE!! {roll my eyes}
VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY is like a baby that only learned how to crawl so far!! =/
FILM INDUSTRY don't just make MONEY at their BOX OFFICE releases! They also made MONEY with DVDs after-sales! Another word, they made more MONEY than VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY & R still less RISKY as well!! >=P
BTW, who broke FILM's BOX OFFICE sales in VIDEO GAMES? Was it one of your ARTsy-FARTsy Video Game Makers? Hell no! It was HALO2 (thanx to GREATNESS that is HALO1 from OLD Bungie) & COD: Modern Warfare 2 (thanx to another GREATNESS that is Call of Duty 4 from OLD Infinity Ward)!! >=)
Yet, your ARTsy-FARTsy continue to show such RESENTMENTS toward our Hardcore GAMERS days after days, Hypocritical SHIT!! >=(
Wow. You're bashing the artsy fartsy, yet you mentioned Halo 2, which actually classifies as "artsy fartsy" by many. If you were really against "artsy fartsy invading the games", you would only be praising platformers. You're also saying how video games are inferior to movies. Nice way to jump ship, dante.
Then again, this is further proof that you don't know what you're talking about.
By the way, fads are what's killing the gaming industry.
"You're also saying how video games are inferior to movies."
No, I said that U R most INFERIOR & ARTsy-FARTsy GAY Low-Life that hated our FPS Video GAMERS! I also said that your VIDEO GAMES R ART & FILM Wannabe Video Games R always INFERIOR to our Unapologetic VIDEO GAMES R GAME Video Games in term of SALES & PROFIT 4 Investors!! >=)
SEARCH & READ "Game Trailers how much longer will fps be on top"
People like U R killing VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY with FAIL Video Games!! =/
BTW, R U tired of being ARTsy CUNT that R making SHIT no one wants!? >=)
When FPS died, something GREATER will replaced it! I'm LATE ARCADE KID! Our FIGHTING GENRE didn't really died, did it? It just EVOLVED, & so will FPS!! ;-)
SEARCH & READ "E3: Crytek CEO - 'Cloud Gaming Is The Future'"
One-on-One (FIGHTING) --> Skirmish (FPS) --> Only CLOUD GAMING can handle a REAL SIZE Battle!! >=)
SEARCH & READ "Video games are 'art' eligible for your tax dollars"
U & your CRONY ARTsy-FARTsy Friends R bunch of PARASITES in our Human Society! It's sad that our Hard Earned TAX MONEY have to go paying 4 your Mediocre ART instead of SCIENCE & TECH that will create JOBS 4 our future generations or even NEW INDUSTRY!! >=(
C that NEW INDUSTRY....
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Video Games R TECH that may or may not contain ART because it's born out of a Brookhaven National Lab!! >=)
Once again, alot of moot points. Although, one thing stuck out to me.
"Video Games R TECH that may or may not contain ART because it's born out of a Brookhaven National Lab!"
Are you serious? So this whole thing with you is because of that, because you say only technicians, like at BNL, can make an artistic game? Wow. This is like arguing about animation with a weeaboo. Last I saw an "artistic game" made by your technician, it was utter crap. Don't like my opinion, too bad.
They even have Religious (ART) Dogma Queer-As-Hell VIDEO GAMES 4 U, ARTsy-FARTsy, these days....
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SEARCH & READ "Gamasutra Tackles Gays In Gaming"
Our SCIENTISTS & ENGINEERS made BEST Testosterone-filled Competitive VIDEO GAMES, & those R FACTS since PONG! That's while your WANNABE ARTISTS with Religious (ART) Dogma made BEST Estrogen-filled ARTsy VIDEO GAMES!! >=P
I'm not going to WORSHIP your VIDEO GAMES R ART BS because I know ORIGIN of our Video Games!! >=)
"They even have Religious (ART) Dogma Queer-As-Hell..."
If you actually watched any of my videos on this subject, you would know I am strongly against having a religious attitude with games. Religion and games don't mix and worship of a character is childish and pathetic.
See, this is the kind of thing you should be saying to idiots like Aknotholeresident. People like him are the ones who worship video games. I don't worship video games, I play and work on them. -_-
"say only technicians, like at BNL, can make an artistic game?"
What's so ARTistic on our FIRST Video Game or CHESS & similar GAMES? Do U know what they do at Brookhaven National Laboratory?....
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This is DARK SECRET of our TRULY Masculine VIDEO GAMES unlike those Wussified FILM & MUSIC in Thomas Edison's SWEATSHOP 4 POOR Immigrant INVENTORS!! =/
SEARCH & READ "9 Inventions Edison Did Not Make"
Video Games R very much linked with WARFARE since its ORIGIN!! >=)
"What's so ARTistic on our FIRST Video Game or CHESS & similar GAMES? Do U know what they do at Brookhaven National Laboratory?"
Just trying to decode the mess that is your response. That is what seams to be what you said. I don't know what's artistic about Chess and I was hoping you can clarify. -_-
"Video Games R very much linked with WARFARE since its ORIGIN!"
Not really. Video Games like Pong, Pole Position, and Klax had no linking with warfare.
U R one with a STORY Emo FETISH! I'm one that want our FUN & Logical GAMEPLAY back into our HARDCORE Video GAMES again! Stop twisting my words, ARTsy Low-Life!! >=(
Will Wright Keynote at GameTech 2010....
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C that! Will Wright, one of BEST Game Designers in VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY, tell like it is!! >=)
SEARCH & READ "Studio Wiki"
SEARCH & READ "Laboratory Wiki"
U just pissed off that our FIRST Video Game is made in Dark LAB instead of your ARTsy Studio!! >=P
What is ART? Ask 5 people, & U'll get 5 different answers!! =/
SEARCH & READ "Video game Wiki"
Video Game is SOFTWARE with 1 & 0 run on an ELECTRONIC DEVICE! Is CREATION of Video Game ART? Yeah! However, FINAL PRODUCT is still GAME! Do GAME need SOFTWARE & HARDWARE to be a GAME? Hell No! CHESS, a Turn-Based Strategy, showed exactly that!! >=P
TELL THE TRUTH....
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STOP being Professional Liar, & STOP wasting our time with your Religious (ART) Dogma!! >=(
Actually, I don't care if there is a story. I just like the idea of having a story. I don't play Call of Duty for it's story, but for the multiplayer. Just that I like having a story. Nothing wrong with that.
"Will Wright/SEARCH & READ"
That doesn't apply to me, you pretentious dumbass.
"U just pissed off that our FIRST Video Game..."
No, I'm pissed at all the bullshit trends. Video Games aren't about trends, yet idiots think otherwise.
I myself say movies and games are on even terms. The movie industry only seams horrible when you look at all the movie fads going on. Thankfully, there's still some decent stuff being made. Just that there's more ads that overhype the niche stuff. It's the same with games half the times.
As for gaming storylines, there far too many fads currently going on, imo. Even with the gaming avant garde movement, there's more fads and aggression than actual art or games.
@laughingfurry Not really, considering movies like the smurfs are coming out every single week while video games are making a good bioshock quality game every 2 weeks seems like the movie industry has given up entirely in terms of smart content that the videogame industry is going for. I would rather have videogames win a fight against the movie industry for whos most artistic just for the fact that you have to know what you are doing when making a videogame, while a movie can be made by a noob.
I actually disagree, for the most part. See, any noob can make a game just like any noob can make a movie. However, just as a good quality game requires someone with smarts, the same applies to the movies. I will agree that there's been way too many of the same shit appearing in box offices, but there are high quality stuff that get's released either through streaming or DVD. The only reason such good movies don't get mentioned is because box office releases are often hyped up.
While Bioshock and games like it are great, I feel there is an oversaturation of games like that. Plus, I often see such games get noticed for the wrong reasons, what with people playing it as Devinci Code. Bioshock is a good proof of doing it right, since the player has scores of options on how to proceed through the game. It also has a great atmosphere. Atmosphere and gameplay options make it quite an artistic game. However, it's story execution is stagnant.
I'm not saying Bioshock's story is stagnant. The plot around a submarine utopia descending into insanity is brilliant. The story with the little sisters has been done before, but the whole thing with atom differentiates Bioshock from other series who have used a similar plot hook.
What make the story execution stagnant is that story direction is based on the cliche'd "do the right thing or the wrong thing", which would be extract or harvest. It was quite dissapointing.
I'm HARDCORE GAMER, and I will speak 4 our VIDEO GAMES R GAME crowd! We used to have VERY GOOD Hardcore VIDEO GAMES! Now a day, VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY keep pander to your VIDEO GAMES R ART crowd, which is nothing but a God-Damn Vocal CULT of MINORITY FEW playing CASUAL GAMES! Personally, I wished all of your ARTsy-FARTsy GAMERS & Roger Ebert would all die off, so we'll have VERY GOOD Hardcore VIDEO GAMES again like what we used to have!! >=)
Most of the block-buster video games like Call of Duty (and other I won't mention) are not art, just like Hollywood blockbuster movies are not art. But there definitely are great amounts of games as art: Braid, Limbo, Flower, Portal, Shadow of the Colossus, are very clear examples, but there are tons of games that are great visually, have amazing sound, and tell an more emotional story than an movie ever could! Especially if what you do affects the story...
Of course games are art. Sure, certain games are developed purely for financial gain/mindless entertainment; however, certain movies, pieces of literature, and music suffer from the same problem, but I have yet to see anyone who doesn't regard them as art forms. Can a game influence one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect? Yes, it can. Can a game be created exclusively for aethestic quality? Yes, undoubtedly.
There are a couple story-based games no one has mentioned yet that are really great examples of how video games are art (such as Ghost Trick and the Phoenix Wright series, if anyone has heard of them).
Does almost anything you look at in your day to day life possess artistic value? yes.
A beautiful painting means nothing to a blind man, that doesn't stop if from being artistic and beautiful. If you don't think that games can, or should be art then that's your loss. Not mine, or anyone elses who thinks that games are as good a way of projecting ideas and emotions as any song or painting.
if you ask me, games are kinda transedant art. one might say that movie has art in it but is not it self art. but i have to say even suckiest movie is an art. just bechose something is art does not mean its good. but i am suprised to find that we have discusion about this. its like plato and aristoteles. i wonder if greek philsopher culd have ever imagined how they changed the world.
BioShock is simply JUNK because System Shock 2 is still BETTER Mixed Genre RPG/FPS!! >=P
MW2 is not best of our FPS genre VIDEO GAMES, but it captured some Aspects of those GOOD GAMEPLAY! Another word, MW2 is better than BioShock in term of FPS genre VIDEO GAMES, and that is TRUTH from a HARD CORE GAMER!! >=)
games look way better than most paintings that make people "wow" at fancy parties , if they think video games are things for 10 year olds that are just a distraction then well we are all 10 year olds and they can be arrogant reatrded non open mined people
games are way better than most paintings that make people "wow" at fancy parties , if they think video games are things for 10 year olds that are just a distraction then well we are all 10 year olds and they can be arrogant reatrded non open mined people
My game list is better 4 REAL & NORMAL GAMERS out there: Tetris, X-Com: UFO Defense, Gran Turismo, StarCraft, SoulCalibur, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Peferct Dark, Halo: Combat Evolved, Counter-Strike 1.6, Demon's Souls, and so on!! >=)
Most of those VIDEO Art-Wannabe GAMES on your list SUX so far starting from OVER-RATED BioShock, and LittleBigPlanet is simply GAY!! >=P
BioShock sux! It is just a System Shock 2 WANNABE without GREAT DESIGN! BS only copied very Superficial Aspects of GAMEPLAY from SS2, and they still didn't do it right!! {roll my eyes}
I'm a fairly SKILLED GAMER since days of Street Fighter 2, Mortal Kombat 1 & 2, and so on as a YOUNG YOUTH! I will even give Johnathan "Fatal1ty" Wendel (Quake 3 Arena Champ), Lim "BoxeR" Yo-Hwan (StarCraft), and so on some difficulty if they got sloppy with me!! >=)
Anybody who sees CoD as anything other than an easy game for pwning n00bz is not a hardcore gamer. It's the most generic, unskilled FPS in history.
Listing games from years ago does not make you pro, in fact I think you've lost touch with newer games as nolgastia blinds you and you reminisce on the games of your past.
All your first post consists of is your opinion. Whether or not a game is fun, or interesting, or deep is in the eye of the beholder. You can't say "older games are more well-made" because you're stating your opinion as fact, which suggests you either have the world's largest ego or simply haven't considered that other people might have different opinions to you.
OLDER Video GAMES R Well-Made compared to your CHURCH of VIDEO GAMES R ART crap because GAMEPLAY had alway been SUPERIOR on those CLASSIC & OLDER Video GAMES! This is from someone that made Video GAMES one of his PRIMARY HOBBY!! {roll my eyes}
Your NEWER Video GAMES R like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, and so on with Auto-Tune while trying to compared to Led Zeppelin, Beatles, and other LEGENDS from Rolling Stone in Music Industry!! >=P
VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY is going down hill, and U R part of those SYMPTOMS! Did OLDER Video GAME Developers walking around and telling themselves and others that VIDEO GAMES R ART? HELL NO! They R too busy making BlOCKBUSTER Video GAMES 4 that kind of BS! Now, our GAMERS have to listen this VIDEO GAMES R ART crap! How come I'm not playing more VIDEO GAMES? I'm here because VIDEO GAMES do SUX these days! It is all RE-MAKE and GAMEPLAY not even worth 40 hours per game!! >=(
VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY is broken because FREEDOM OF Video Game PRESS is broken! Back in OLD DAYS, we, GAMERS, would be very well-informed on just about any SMALL & ORIGINAL PRODUCTIONS of Video Games out there! Today, none of those Up-Coming Video Games R ever mention unless they R in bed with Fox News, which bought out IGN in 2005! Most of GAME REVIEWS R really RIGGED just like every other MAJOR GAME REVIEW SITES these days such as IGN, GameSpot, and so on!! >=(
Please, if you want to be taken seriously you're gonna have to stop with the conspiracy theories, and the whole word-capitalisation thing.
Games have got better. Not only do the campaigns now have proper storylines and graphics, vastly improving immersion, multiplayer gameplay is far better than it was even 5 years ago.
If you want small, original games, go look at the Indie Games section on the XBL Marketplace.
@IronJackalTw Do you have a mental problem man? Sorry, but denying the truth of the world like videogames as art in such a immature manner shows you to not be a judge of this medium. Have you ever played a videogame man? because I doubt you have from your trollish behavior.
The same thing was said with movies and comic books at first dude. "THEY ROT YOUZ BRANZ!! PROTECTZ THEZ CHILDZ!!!" saying videogames aren't art then movies aren't, and comic books, and even books are not art. You are wrong
@IronJackalTw Woah there buddy, last I checked if you play any games at all, or own and Xbox, PS3, Wii or a gaming PC like me, then you would know that indie developers are getting the most support ever. Counter Strike, Portal, Minecraft, Bulletstorm - games that were all made by much smaller companies but were then given the support of major companies to become huge successes (with the exception of Minecraft which is still owned by the original developers.) Think before you speak.
@IronJackalTw Oh, yeah, IronJackel, You do know that the US fucking government now believes videogames to be an artform as well? Face it kiddo YOU LOST.
Just because Video Games contain ART, which is just like a SOCCER BALL contain some kind of ART to ball's surface! That SOCCER BALL is still not ART! Video Games R GAMES to be PLAY with! It is just like a SOCCER BALL is used 4 GAME to be PLAY with, too, not your Retarded ART! Ever wonder why Video Games SUX so badly today!? >=(
SEARCH & READ "U.S. Government Designates Video Games/Mobile Technologies/Internet Content "Art Forms""
Video Games should be driven by actual MARKET DEMAND not because U feel like creating your Artsy-Fartsy Video ARTs!! {roll my eyes}
Video Games is more of a CRAFT like a TOY MAKER than an ART! It is very much driven by Cutting-Edge Techs and Cutting-Edge ARTs as well! However, their finished products R GAMES & 4 FUN!! =/
@IronJackalTw 1st off, videogames are at a time where amazing things are coming out every week from all over the world. 2nd, You are more a child. A dumb child that knows nothing of art. I bet money that you don't even know what the dictionary even says about art kiddo.
Also considering the fact that current videogames are better written than anything the movie industry has produced in many years also show that the movie industry is more toylike than the videogame industry is. You lost kid.
"current videogames are better written than anything the movie industry has produced in many years"
U R joking.... right? Video Game Industry today R as SHITTY as Movie Industry with their mostly RE-MAKES! I mean sure they have a FEW really good ones, but they R just RARE these days!! =/
"More a child"!? It took a child to tell the KING that Emperor is naked and had no cloth.... haha!! >=P
@IronJackalTw So remakes are bad even though you already said in a earlier post that older games are better and you just wanna complain about the remakes of those games that you love that a new audience will love? Yep, I just cut a hole right your (dumber and trollish as hell) opinion.
Also, your third paragraph is so all over the place that only a actual child could kill the english language that badly. You have 0 grammer skills and you reply somehow worse than you spell. disgusting really.
I never said that REMAKES R BAD! I said that REMAKES SUX! OLD Video Games, on the other hand, R BAD and had right amount of CRACK COCAINE in them! NEW Video Games R just ART and fucking GAY, which may be GOOD TO LOOK at but BORING AS HELL to PLAY with! That's the difference! It's sad that U people don't even know WHAT THE HELL that U do!! {roll my eyes}
BTW, REMAKES is cue that NEW Video Games LACK BALLS 4 ORIGINALITY, INNOVATION, & RISK-TAKING in Video Games Industry!! =/
@IronJackalTw Sooo... L.A. Noire, Enslaved, Bioshock 1 and 2 borderlands, Assassins creed 2, Portal, Nier, Fallout series, and even mass effect are not original then? Also, the corralation between 'suck' and bad 'bad' is practically hand to hand. So you pretty much admit you are a hypocritical troll. Also comparing videogames to drugs makes you out to be some mommies boy who was banned from playing them because you are most likely some cultist, you are that foolish. Trust me kid, I will win this
Those VIDEO GAMES U listed R not all ART! Fallout 1 & 2 is GREAT, but Fallout 3 SUX! Funny that people talks ART so much would not live up to ORIGINAL!! =/
I don't claim to be PERFECT Human Beings! I bet U tell White Lies before! We all do! Just stop dropping your ball on your SOFTWARE end! The world will always needs some scapegoat to hate or to blame 4 their shortcoming! That's from 3rd rated PARENTS to Double-Talking Dirty POLITICIANS, but those R FREE Publicity!! >=)
Just let him have the last word so he can shut up with his bullshit. He already lost anyways. He'll never get to play a good game, his posts will always require decoding, his idea of deep is most likely The Office or Twilight, and continuing to respond to such a fool will pull you down.
Of course, I'll have LAST WORD because I'm CUSTOMER of VIDEO GAMES.... duh!! {roll my eyes}
As long as I'm alive, U better not call our VIDEO GAMES as VIDEO ARTS because that's GAY and ARTsy-FARTsy! If U R GAY, go to GAY CLUB and go GAY SHIT there! If U R ARTsy-FARTsy, go to your ART MUESEUM and go ART APE SHIT there! None of our GAMERS give a rat's ARSE of your INSECURITY because Roger Ebert wants U to suck his GAY DICK, which U seems to want to suck it all the time!! =/
How many VIDEO GAMES have Roger Ebert buy at all? He is so IRREVERENT! Grow a fucking BRAIN!! >=(
Why is Video Games Industry forced to act like Movie Industry? Stop making our VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY as SHITTY as their MOVIE INDUSTRY!! =/
BTW, VIDEO GAMES R SOFTWARES! Do U Debug ART? The day I'll accept VIDEO GAMES as ART is when U don't Debug any VIDEO GAMES! Until then, Video Games R GAME & FUN! Another word, it is U that have a PROBLEM with Roger Ebert not us!! >=P
Where were U, VIDEO GAMES R ART crowd, when VIDEO GAMES only have 16-bit or 8-bit graphics? I know U wouldn't claim those OLDER Video Games as ART! I guess those Pixelated Video Games couldn't let your Narcissistic Personality Disorder TYPE proclaim your VANITY to our GAMERS! OLDER Video Games R so much better DESIGNED because they focused more on GAMEPLAY and less on Superficial BS! Our GAMERS want to PLAY not WATCH your GAY MOVIE WANNABE SHIT!! =/
U obviously don't want me to have LAST WORD!! {roll my eyes}
Roger Ebert is just some GAY LOW-LIFE that wants to GAY FUCK with our VIDEO GAMES because it is not GAY ENOUGH LIKE HIM! U R his LITTLE ARTsy-FARTsy BITCH ready to make our VIDEO GAMES as GAY as his MOVIE INDUSTRY!! >=(
VIDEO GAMES R SPORT, GAME, & FUN kind of like CHESS! If we want ART, we would get those outside of VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY! U want our GAMING MONEY! U better make what we want NOT WHAT U WANT!! >=)
@IronJackalTw Is it just me? Or am I the only one who can't tell if you are serious, or seriously have something wrong with you. Everytime you open your textbox ignorance and stupidity floods out like blood through a wound to your artery. But anyways, enough talking about blood, you suck at replying, in fact, I bet you do it on purpose so you can have the last pathetic word that you think you are important but in all actuality you are just a pathetic troll that will NEVER amount to anything ever
@jayofthe400 dont feed the troll -_- , and worst of all, don't sound like an asshole while doing it. Just ignore. They go away, and you can discuss the question with non-idiots! Thats always a good time ^^
@n16pr Actually, he isn't a troll. He's just an immature brat who's pushing his opinions upon others. That's why I blocked him from my videos months ago. If I can't stand Sarah Palin, I won't stand Jackal.
You are right about something, which is discussing this with other people. IronJackal is too narrowminded to have any decent conversation with.
@laughingfurry -_-, do you really think anyone is that stupid? that anyone actually believes bioware is a gay conspiracy?
Its an obvious troll. He's just fucking with you. If you can't recognize it, you need to spend more time on internet forums, or you will keep dragging yourself into pointless debates like this one.
Unless you're co-trolling 0_o... in which case, good job, you got me.
about bioware: I've seen and heard worse conspiracy theories. Him believing there's a conspiracy with bioware is alot more believable than what I hear half the time.
about trolling: I doubt you know what trolling is. I'll simplify it as this. If he was trolling, he would still be making major movie references. There's a huge difference between trolling and not thinking. Clearly, he just isn't thinking.
It is just U! Trust me on this! U have a lot of INSECURITY in U, and most of all, lots of MISCONCEPTION on what GAMERS really WANT from our VIDEO GAMES!! {roll my eyes}
Here is your VIDEO GAMES R ART Video Game Makers, which Homefront claimed their HOMOFRONT IS ART!! =/
SEARCH & READ "Homefront Best Buy REVIEWS"
Please feel free to read through those Truthful but Negative REVIEWS, which really amount to Homefront SUX!! >=P
He's just an idiot who's trying to push his narrow viewpoint onto others. It would be like trying to argue with Roger Ebert or Sarah Palin. Although, both Ebert and Palin show alot more intelligence than Jackal.
I myself do some videos on this subject an am curious what your take is on my opinions, so you're welcome to comment on my videos. Regardless if you do or don't, you should still try not to both with Jackal. He's obviously not too bright.
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jayofthe400,
Maybe, Jordan Mechner is talking about REMAKE 4 MOBILE PLATFORMS such as SMARTPHONES & TABLETS! Karateka is a very simple GAME! Combat Stance to fight and Running Stance to run & stop! Punch and Kick on High, Mid, & Low! That's it! Death Scenes would be fall back off mountain, gate slam down on U, beat (bite) to death by guards (eagle) then boss, & get kick in nut by lady in wrong stance! Why didn't she use that before kidnap? It's most powerful kick in GAME!! ;-)
IronJackalTw 2 weeks ago
jayofthe400,
Wow, I can't have FREEDOM OF SPEECH without my COMMENTS getting CENSORED on here, FUCKING NAZI!! >=(
GAMEPLAY is what GAMERS wants....
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If GAMERS wants STORY more than GAMEPLAY, then those 2D Adventure Games like King's Quest (1984), Maniac Mansion (1987), Grim Fandango (1998), & so on would never ever die, but they did!! {roll my eyes}
SEARCH & READ "ADOLF HITLER's PAINTINGS"
If HITLER played FPS GAMES, he would be NORMAL & HUMAN!! >=P
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IronJackalTw 2 weeks ago
Out of any games I've played, Ocarina of Time is a perfect example of interactive art. Who agrees?
GameMation1 3 weeks ago
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IM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING A GOOD FREE GAME DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE, IM IN A HUGE NEED OF HELP HERE! DOES ANYONE KNOW A GOOD ONE OR ANY RESOURCES?
THANKS!
rgGamerfreak69 1 month ago
if video games are art so are board games.
DoNotOpenEver 3 months ago
leetbh,
At end of days, Call of Duty 1, 2, 4: MW, & MW 2 series R still one of best selling VIDEO GAMES, and that's Fight Against Grenade Spam.... hehe!! >=)
IronJackalTw 3 months ago
@IronJackalTw My goodness. You are still going you troll? How are you not banned for all your moronicness? I mean it, give me a thumbs up if you believe IronJackalTw is one of the dumbest people on the PLANET.
You are NOTHING and will continue to be NOTHING, you will NEVER make a difference in video games at all and they continually prove you wrong on a 100% BASIS. Even if I took a shit right here and now, that piece of shit would be smarter then you. same with my puke and piss as well.
jayofthe400 3 months ago
"I literally cried during Shadow of the Colossus." What a pussy.
FreeVonHelton 4 months ago
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FreeVonHelton,
" "I literally cried during Shadow of the Colossus." What a pussy. "
I agreed with U against these Artsy-Fartsy! If Shadow of the Colossus is better VIDEO GAMES, then why didn't it have a bigger fan base than The Legend of Zelda of similar VIDEO GAMES!? {roll my eyes}
IronJackalTw 3 months ago
@FreeVonHelton
only robots don't cry
SevenGramRock 1 month ago
@SevenGramRock Some people only cry when something tragic happens, and not when they're playing a goddamn videogame. It shows how artistically and intellectually deprived these gamers are when they're trying to pass off killing sixteen giant monsters (two of which aren't even giant) as deep enriching form of art.
FreeVonHelton 4 weeks ago
@FreeVonHelton lol youre a robot.
robot
SevenGramRock 3 weeks ago
@SevenGramRock I'd think you'd like robots, being a fucking nerd! NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FreeVonHelton 3 weeks ago
@FreeVonHelton
the internet is so lolsome with people like you
SevenGramRock 3 weeks ago
Are video games art? concidering that expression itself is art then the ability of expressing your whole world better that you could express it with any other kind of art such as singing,dancing,writting or drawingand etc, is definitely one of the most important kind of arts...it is one of the strongest ways to literally show people your world...to me it is from the most beautiful kind of arts...
ShayleeNilaya 5 months ago
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IronJackalTw 3 months ago
ShayleeNilaya,
Video Games at its BLACK HEART is still a GAME! That's why that it is called Video..... GAME! It's not called Video..... ART! I will never paid any of my Hard-Earned MONEY 4 Video ART, but I'll always paid my Hard-Earned MONEY 4 Video GAMES!! {roll my eyes}
ART is Jackson Pollock and their Artsy-Fartsy QUEERS doing their RETARDED CRAP! ART is just PAINT on a SOCCER BALL that we, GAMERS, used to play a GAME with it! ART is optional, but GAMEPLAY is not!! >=)
IronJackalTw 3 months ago
I like the first guys response.
Keyspot 5 months ago
CLIFFY B
Sageisstupid 6 months ago
david perry really inspires me....he's awesome!!
MrBlazzzzer 6 months ago
Very true, games can definatly be and should be taken seriously.
If people think its a distraction, stupid or childish then they are just ignorant.
Games have been the most successful way of entertainment for me :-).
Also Game developers should be recognised overall alot more as people in the movie industry are all over the news when a new film is released but to be honest people who make the games are alot more intelligent and im sure are more dedicated as well.
GnRJay08 7 months ago
tim schaafer in the 1st 20 seconds wins this vid
solidblood 7 months ago 10
1:34 EPIC chin cleft!
jak23ft 7 months ago
@leetbh
Oh, I see. Well, when I mentioned that I played Call of Duty, it was to say I don't expect some artistic masterpiece from every game. Besides, Call of Duty isn't as trendy as people think. It just appears so because of fanboys and how often it's mentioned. If anything, people have been bashing the series. Hell, I wasn't interested in the series until I wondered how bad some of the games can be.
When I say trends in games, I mean elements that get ridiculous amounts of praise.
laughingfurry 7 months ago
@leetbh
So I find Call of Duty's entertaining. It's not like it's the only game I play. I also play various RPGs, Adventure games, Puzzle games, and Racers. Hell, anyone who glance over my videos would easily mistaken me as just another fighting game fan.
Just because someone enjoys Call of Duty doesn't mean anything in regards to this argument. You're a fool to think it matters.
laughingfurry 7 months ago
"Are games art?— oh, man, who cares?"
SamStancill 8 months ago 10
@SamStancill "is quoting the first line in the video okay?oh man who cares as long as i get thumbs up"
gizmofly870 6 months ago
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Video Games R GAME kind of like CHESS ever since PONG! Our Video Games is not a RELIGIOUS (ART) DOGMA!! >=)
What's matter, GAY-ARSE Ted Haggard FAGGOTS playing your ARTsy CASUAL GAMES? Forget your way back to your GAY-ARSE Churches of NON-SENSE! Stop SISSIFIED our Hardcore VIDEO GAMES!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
Whether games are art or not is a very dumb question, it would be like asking whether a canvas with paint on it is art or not; the answer is obviously no.Are games an artform?now there's a proper question! Games are an artform just as music, video and pictures is an artform,but that doesn't mean every game or canvas or piece of audio you experience is art,it means it can be,and of course it can be, you can't prove that statement wrong.Whether games are an artform or not is not important at all.
ArchaicMusics 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
ArchaicMusics,
Is CHESS a GAME or an ART? Video GAMES R successor of OLDER GAMES such as CHESS, RISK Board GAME, and so on based on WAR, which may contain ART or not! I had been PLAYING this HOBBY OF MINE since my early YOUTH! Now, GET THE FUCK out of my Video Game HOBBY! What's IMPORTANT to me and other REAL GAMERS is that I and other GAMERS don't have to waste our Hard Earned MONEY on CLUELESS IDIOTS that don't know how to CRAFT our Video GAMES correctly 4 our HeteroSexual GUYS!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
ArchaicMusics,
In Video GAMES, ART must be subservient to GAME! This is its Hierarchy & Pecking Order, which had been 4 a long time since our early VIDEO GAMES & will continue to be so into FUTURE! What YOUR GAY-ARSE Pink ARTsy-FARTsy KINDS wanted is just not going to work, so fucking GET USED TO Video Games R GAME!! >=)
SEARCH & READ "Game wiki"
If GAME oppressed your ART, just get the fuck out of VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY & do something else that is ARTsy outside of my VIDEO GAMES!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw You're a tragic human being, I've seen your comments months back saying the same shit. Games are an artform just like films are, just because you don't think chess is art doesn't mean games like Braid isn't to some people. It's a matter of opinion what games are considered art but clearly games are an artform, try and prove me wrong. Do yourself and others a favor and get out in the sunshine once or yell at a pillow instead of trolling on youtube all day long.
ArchaicMusics 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
ArchaicMusics,
BRAID is GAY just like your ARTsy LOW-LIFE that hated our PIXEL KILLING HOBBY 4 as long as I remember it from USELESS & CORRUPT Politicians (LATENT GAY) to 3RD RATED & OVER-RELIGIOUS Parents with GAY KIDS!! =/
BRAID is just an Un-Original WANNABE of our Side-Scrollers ever since our ARCADE GAME ERA where our LESS GAY GAME DESIGNERS with ENGINEER BACKGROUD made most of our MANLY Video Games than any of your ARTsy-FARTsy Un-Original SHIT that encroaching on our TURF today!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw And yet they are making more money than the movie industry and the music industry combined... Kinda huge proof that you are just talking, (or trolling.) off your ass.
Does that mean that 100% of those people that buy new great games every year are gay? because the more you speak, the more I am amazed that youtube just doesn't ban you for the sheer stupidity you bring to this site. Hell, my shit is smarter than you. That is how sad of a human being you are.
jayofthe400 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
SEARCH & READ "US government officially recognizes video games as art"
Go ahead on STEALING & CONNING those TAX MONEY like bunch of CROOKS & LIARS! That's as if any of U have actual TALENTS to make ORIGINAL First-Class VIDEO GAMES like they did in ARCADE GAME ERA, which is our AMAZING Video Game ERA because GAME Developers made BEST Advanced Game TECH we have now!! >=)
Those ARCADE GAMES that I listed MADE MONEY, too....
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They fight 4 GREATNESS that is GAME!! >=P
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
Housing BUBBLE come CRASHING down with TOXIC LOANS 4 people, who had no business in owning HOUSES at all, so it will be with Video Gaming BUBBLE come CRASHING down with ARTsy-FARTsy SUBSIDY making GAY-ARSE ARTsy Video Games that our HeteroSexual GAMERS don't want to PLAY with nor to FUND them with at all!! {roll my eyes}
All of your VIDEO GAMES R ART Video Game Makers made 3RD RATED Video Games so far! It is not our TAX PAYERS' JOB to SUBSIDIZE your ARTsy-FARTsy BULL SHIT!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw If YOU'RE having so much PROBLEMS with your MANLINESS that you have to prove it through GAMES then that's FINE as long as you don't TAKE it OUT on other PEOPLE by spreading douchebag COMMENTS that doesn't make any SENSE.
Fucking hell you are one sad man sitting in your basement all day writing comments like that. You don't have any extra lives so why don't you go spend your only one trying at least to feel happiness once in a while?
ArchaicMusics 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
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ArchaicMusics,
I don't have a BASEMENT in my house! Besides, I can take my LAPTOP & my SMART PHONE anywhere these days! U R obviously an ARTsy-FARTsy BIGOT, who had HATRED & RESENTMENT toward PEOPLE that R Higher IQ than U! Just U should know that our NERDS & our GEEKS built our COMPUTERS & VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY, & they R both TECH-driven INDUSTRIES!! >=)
BTW, U R one that have problem with our MANLY Video Game HOBBY! U R one insisted that we have to play with your PINK JOYSTICKS!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
ArchaicMusics,
What's matter MUSICAL TRASH, or is that WANNABE MUSICAL TRASH with NO TALENT? Did U run out of your MARIJUANA to smoke on now? R U too STUPID to find YOUR WAY back to your GAY-ARSE ARTsy-FARTsy QUEER CLUBS!? {roll my eyes}
This is INTERNET! Don't like TECHNOLOGY? I suggest that U would GET THE FUCK OFF OUR INTERNET, since U R obviously using our TECH! R U a fucking STUPID SHIT that can't figure out that U R on our TURF all this time, ARTsy-FARTsy worthless TRASH!! >=P
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw
Woah. Something interesting was just pointed out. Thinking over again about your comments, something becomes clear. You're not stupid. You're not trolling. You're just emotionally unstable and trying to take it out on others. It's especially clear with you going into that irrelevant talk about the housing crash.
Well, if I knew you were one of those internet emos, I wouldn't have even acknowledged your existence.
/argument.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
laughingfurry,
What's the matter, EMO ARTsy-FARTsy FREAK? I'm a very LOGICAL person, ATHEIST, Pro-Science, & Pro-Technology! Did I hit right on NAIL on what U ARTsy-FARTsy CROOKS really R?....
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Housing BUBBLE is caused by bunch of CROOKS selling TOXIC LOANS (DERIVATIVES with Trump Up AAA RATING) to a lot of INVESTORS with NAIVE KNOWLEDGE of what they R really putting their INVESTMENT (MONEY) to! In the end, INVESTORS R Ripe-Off & NEWLY OWNERS R Ripe-Off, too!! {roll my eyes}
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw
Nope. You're just emo.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
laughingfurry,
"You're just emo."
Please explained to me & to other GAMERS on HOW & WHY that I'm EMO when I'm most LOGICAL person here!! >=)
Now, it's my turn to show WHY & HOW that your ARTsy-FARTsy KINDS R bunch of EMO FAGS....
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This is OLD Dante before U turn him EMO in DMC 5....
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I'm not only one that don't like your EMO Dante....
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Heavenly Sword is made by your GAY-ARSE Ninja Theory (working on DMC 5), who insisted that VIDEO GAMES R ART!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw
You're constantly assuming the worse.
The overuse of emoticons, even in your latest comment, show an unstable state of emotion.
You're constant aggression against those you see as an opposition.
You exhibit the idea that it is you against the world.
You have a dark and narrow viewpoint.
You try to find anything that helps your "case", despite how irrelevant it is.
Oddly, you are like DMC5's Dante in many aspects. Perhaps, you should try to actually read and use less angst.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
laughingfurry,
Dante in DMC 5 is made by your ARTsy-FARTsy GAY SHIT from QUEER Ninja Theory, which is bunch of FAGGOTS, that hated our VIDEO GAMES R GAME and try to ruin that 4 all of our HARDCORE GAMERS out there!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw What? Honestly, now I don't even fucking know what you're saying anymore. housing crisis to DMC in as little of 5 fucking words? I am now convinced that you have SEVERE emotional problems and severe mental stability. I am, quite frankly, surprised you don't forget to breath, that is how messed up you are. Also, There are hardcore games being made that are artsy, Dead Space 2 has one of the hardest modes in a video game ever made and a great story. does that equal gay to you then?
jayofthe400 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
"There are hardcore games being made that are artsy, Dead Space 2"
FUCK your ARTsy CRAP! That's what's wrong in our HARDCORE Video Games! Too many had fall into fallacy of trying to make ART instead of making GAME!! >=(
In GOOD OLD DAYS, we have more CHOICES than what we have now a day! Those R days when Video Game Developers R willing to push limit of both TECH & GAMEPLAY not your Sissy ART (REMAKE)!! >=(
Crysis....
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Bring our COMPETITIVE GAMING back!! >=)
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw
What do you know about competitive gaming? Someone who only use games as toys but claim to know competitive gaming, that's a laugh. You're like those kids who build card castles rather than play War. I won't be surprised if you were the fool who helped my killstreak last night in Black Ops. Easiest set of kills in my life. Or perhaps you'd blame the Graphic Whores over "unbalanced teirs", "noobtubers", and other pathetic excuses.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
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IronJackalTw 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
What Graphic Whores!? I don't C U done SHIT to push LIMIT of 3D Game Graphics without our Hardcore GAMERS footing 4 those BILLS!! {roll my eyes}
Where is THESE in our NEW GAMES, U Anti-Science & Anti-Tech ARTsy-FARTsy SHIT as usual?....
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Come on, show us your REAL Game Making SKILLS....
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And this....
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Back then, we have SHIT 4 HARDWARES, & OLD Video Game Developers still MAX OUT on those GEARS!! >=)
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
SEARCH & READ "Call of Duty: Black Ops Best Buy REVIEWS"
I'm not a fan of CRAPPY Treyarch, but I'm a fan of OLD Infinity Ward!! >=P
Can your ARTsy-FARTsy Game Developers today even do this without any 3D GRAPHIC ACCELERATORS? Well, our OLD Video Game Developers did....
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They did this, too....
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Also this....
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Please go FLIP HOUSES, where YOUR KIND obviously have TALENT 4 at screwing people, & GET THE FUCK OFF our Video Games!! >=(
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
Graphic Whores are the bulk of artsy fartsy. As for "pushing the LIMIT of 3D Game Graphics", that is the most pretentious thing you ever said. Funny, how I keep drawing parallels between you and artsy fartsy.
You're not a hardcore gamer. You will never be a hardcore gamer. You're just going with the fad like all the other angsty, pretentious emos. Quite sad, how my little trolling 15 hours ago caused you to rage so much. Two paragraphs, that rage of yours is so delicious.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
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IronJackalTw 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
Our Hardcore FPS Gamers R WHY that we have those 3D GRAPHIC ACCELERATORS to began with! Another word, we R those Gamers, who foot BILLS of those 3D TECH not your ARTsy-FARTsy LAME-ARSE Casual Gamers! Do your SOLITAIRE need 3D Graphic Accelerator!? >=P
Your ARTsy-FARTsy Adventure GAMES died long ago....
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It is your FAULT 4 dropping the ball! Do U know WHY? That's because those GAMES gone too GAY! Stop INFESTING our Hardcore Games with your same DISEASE!! >=(
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
U mad :D
laughingfurry 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
"U mad :D"
SEARCH & READ "The Future of Adventure Games"
U R one that R mad at our GAMERS when most GAMERS R HeteroSexual Boys and now HeteroSexual Men! We want our Hardcore Video games to be Testosterone-filled, Manly, and most of all, VIDEO GAMES R GAME kind of GOODNESS!! >=P
SEARCH & READ "What Went Wrong With Metroid Other M"
That's while your QUEER-ARSE kind want Estrogen-filled, ARTsy-FARTsy, and your VIDEO GAMES R ART kind of BULL SHIT!! >=(
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
Do U know WHY that MARKET 4 Adventure Game Genre even existed at all on our Home Computers!? {roll my eyes}
Roberta Williams is SECOND MOTHER of many GAMERS out there, which is something I have to keep repeating here but no one is listening....
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R U angry that JOHNNY is all GROWN-UP now....
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We, Hardcore Gamers, R no longer POWERLESS in choosing KINDS of Video Games that we wanted to play unlike our YOUTH! What we want is what we'll get now!! >=)
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY is about 40 years old! Pong (Atari 1972), which is [2012-1972=40], & it's YOUNG compared to MUSIC (1877 with Phonograph) & FILM (1891 with Kinetoscope) in USA!! >=)
Adventure Game Genre is about 28 years old! King's Quest (Sierra 1984), which is [2012-1984=28], & it have Storytelling & Narrative CRAP!! ;-)
First-Person Shooter Genre is about 19 years old! Doom (Id Software 1993), which is [2012-1993=19]! Another word, we'll be around 4 a while!! >=P
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw Even then the video game industry has already beaten the entirety of the movie industry in terms of quality and quantity. Hell, kinda sad when you think about how horrible the movie industry has become while the videogame industry keeps beating the living shit out of the movie industry in terms of story quality, however you will most likely make this post out as a attack from a graphic whore, (which I am not.) or some other stupid crap. Also, your spelling is horrible and trollish.
jayofthe400 8 months ago
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IronJackalTw 8 months ago
jayofthe400,
"Even then the video game industry has already beaten the entirety of the movie industry in terms of quality and quantity."
U R joking.... right? U have a lot of FALSE PRIDE!! {roll my eyes}
VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY is like a baby that only learned how to crawl so far!! =/
FILM INDUSTRY don't just make MONEY at their BOX OFFICE releases! They also made MONEY with DVDs after-sales! Another word, they made more MONEY than VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY & R still less RISKY as well!! >=P
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
jayofthe400,
BTW, who broke FILM's BOX OFFICE sales in VIDEO GAMES? Was it one of your ARTsy-FARTsy Video Game Makers? Hell no! It was HALO2 (thanx to GREATNESS that is HALO1 from OLD Bungie) & COD: Modern Warfare 2 (thanx to another GREATNESS that is Call of Duty 4 from OLD Infinity Ward)!! >=)
Yet, your ARTsy-FARTsy continue to show such RESENTMENTS toward our Hardcore GAMERS days after days, Hypocritical SHIT!! >=(
Our CLASSIC will always be CLASSIC.....
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GAME ON!! >=)
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
Wow. You're bashing the artsy fartsy, yet you mentioned Halo 2, which actually classifies as "artsy fartsy" by many. If you were really against "artsy fartsy invading the games", you would only be praising platformers. You're also saying how video games are inferior to movies. Nice way to jump ship, dante.
Then again, this is further proof that you don't know what you're talking about.
By the way, fads are what's killing the gaming industry.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
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IronJackalTw 8 months ago
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laughingfurry,
"You're also saying how video games are inferior to movies."
No, I said that U R most INFERIOR & ARTsy-FARTsy GAY Low-Life that hated our FPS Video GAMERS! I also said that your VIDEO GAMES R ART & FILM Wannabe Video Games R always INFERIOR to our Unapologetic VIDEO GAMES R GAME Video Games in term of SALES & PROFIT 4 Investors!! >=)
SEARCH & READ "Game Trailers how much longer will fps be on top"
People like U R killing VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY with FAIL Video Games!! =/
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
Sure thing, dante. Sure thing. Aren't you ever tired of being wrong?
laughingfurry 8 months ago
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IronJackalTw 8 months ago
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laughingfurry,
"Aren't you ever tired of being wrong?"
No, I'm not tired of being BAD Boy!! >=P
BTW, R U tired of being ARTsy CUNT that R making SHIT no one wants!? >=)
When FPS died, something GREATER will replaced it! I'm LATE ARCADE KID! Our FIGHTING GENRE didn't really died, did it? It just EVOLVED, & so will FPS!! ;-)
SEARCH & READ "E3: Crytek CEO - 'Cloud Gaming Is The Future'"
One-on-One (FIGHTING) --> Skirmish (FPS) --> Only CLOUD GAMING can handle a REAL SIZE Battle!! >=)
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
SEARCH & READ "Video games are 'art' eligible for your tax dollars"
U & your CRONY ARTsy-FARTsy Friends R bunch of PARASITES in our Human Society! It's sad that our Hard Earned TAX MONEY have to go paying 4 your Mediocre ART instead of SCIENCE & TECH that will create JOBS 4 our future generations or even NEW INDUSTRY!! >=(
C that NEW INDUSTRY....
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Video Games R TECH that may or may not contain ART because it's born out of a Brookhaven National Lab!! >=)
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
Once again, alot of moot points. Although, one thing stuck out to me.
"Video Games R TECH that may or may not contain ART because it's born out of a Brookhaven National Lab!"
Are you serious? So this whole thing with you is because of that, because you say only technicians, like at BNL, can make an artistic game? Wow. This is like arguing about animation with a weeaboo. Last I saw an "artistic game" made by your technician, it was utter crap. Don't like my opinion, too bad.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
They even have Religious (ART) Dogma Queer-As-Hell VIDEO GAMES 4 U, ARTsy-FARTsy, these days....
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SEARCH & READ "Gamasutra Tackles Gays In Gaming"
Our SCIENTISTS & ENGINEERS made BEST Testosterone-filled Competitive VIDEO GAMES, & those R FACTS since PONG! That's while your WANNABE ARTISTS with Religious (ART) Dogma made BEST Estrogen-filled ARTsy VIDEO GAMES!! >=P
I'm not going to WORSHIP your VIDEO GAMES R ART BS because I know ORIGIN of our Video Games!! >=)
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
"They even have Religious (ART) Dogma Queer-As-Hell..."
If you actually watched any of my videos on this subject, you would know I am strongly against having a religious attitude with games. Religion and games don't mix and worship of a character is childish and pathetic.
See, this is the kind of thing you should be saying to idiots like Aknotholeresident. People like him are the ones who worship video games. I don't worship video games, I play and work on them. -_-
laughingfurry 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
"say only technicians, like at BNL, can make an artistic game?"
What's so ARTistic on our FIRST Video Game or CHESS & similar GAMES? Do U know what they do at Brookhaven National Laboratory?....
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This is DARK SECRET of our TRULY Masculine VIDEO GAMES unlike those Wussified FILM & MUSIC in Thomas Edison's SWEATSHOP 4 POOR Immigrant INVENTORS!! =/
SEARCH & READ "9 Inventions Edison Did Not Make"
Video Games R very much linked with WARFARE since its ORIGIN!! >=)
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
"What's so ARTistic on our FIRST Video Game or CHESS & similar GAMES? Do U know what they do at Brookhaven National Laboratory?"
Just trying to decode the mess that is your response. That is what seams to be what you said. I don't know what's artistic about Chess and I was hoping you can clarify. -_-
"Video Games R very much linked with WARFARE since its ORIGIN!"
Not really. Video Games like Pong, Pole Position, and Klax had no linking with warfare.
No more moot points plz.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
U R one with a STORY Emo FETISH! I'm one that want our FUN & Logical GAMEPLAY back into our HARDCORE Video GAMES again! Stop twisting my words, ARTsy Low-Life!! >=(
Will Wright Keynote at GameTech 2010....
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C that! Will Wright, one of BEST Game Designers in VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY, tell like it is!! >=)
SEARCH & READ "Studio Wiki"
SEARCH & READ "Laboratory Wiki"
U just pissed off that our FIRST Video Game is made in Dark LAB instead of your ARTsy Studio!! >=P
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
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IronJackalTw 8 months ago
laughingfurry,
What is ART? Ask 5 people, & U'll get 5 different answers!! =/
SEARCH & READ "Video game Wiki"
Video Game is SOFTWARE with 1 & 0 run on an ELECTRONIC DEVICE! Is CREATION of Video Game ART? Yeah! However, FINAL PRODUCT is still GAME! Do GAME need SOFTWARE & HARDWARE to be a GAME? Hell No! CHESS, a Turn-Based Strategy, showed exactly that!! >=P
TELL THE TRUTH....
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STOP being Professional Liar, & STOP wasting our time with your Religious (ART) Dogma!! >=(
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
"What is ART? Ask 5 people, & U'll get 5 different answers!!"
"Video Game is SOFTWARE with 1 & 0 run on an ELECTRONIC DEVICE!"
I already know that. Yet more moot points. No surprise.-_-
"Is CREATION of Video Game ART? Yeah! However, FINAL PRODUCT is still GAME!"
That's what I've been saying this whole time. You need to READ, dumbass.
"...Religious (ART) Dogma!!"
I've already said I'm against that crap, multiple times. Do you not understand the words I am typing?
laughingfurry 8 months ago
@IronJackalTw
"U R one with a STORY Emo FETISH!..."
Actually, I don't care if there is a story. I just like the idea of having a story. I don't play Call of Duty for it's story, but for the multiplayer. Just that I like having a story. Nothing wrong with that.
"Will Wright/SEARCH & READ"
That doesn't apply to me, you pretentious dumbass.
"U just pissed off that our FIRST Video Game..."
No, I'm pissed at all the bullshit trends. Video Games aren't about trends, yet idiots think otherwise.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
@jayofthe400
I myself say movies and games are on even terms. The movie industry only seams horrible when you look at all the movie fads going on. Thankfully, there's still some decent stuff being made. Just that there's more ads that overhype the niche stuff. It's the same with games half the times.
As for gaming storylines, there far too many fads currently going on, imo. Even with the gaming avant garde movement, there's more fads and aggression than actual art or games.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
@laughingfurry Not really, considering movies like the smurfs are coming out every single week while video games are making a good bioshock quality game every 2 weeks seems like the movie industry has given up entirely in terms of smart content that the videogame industry is going for. I would rather have videogames win a fight against the movie industry for whos most artistic just for the fact that you have to know what you are doing when making a videogame, while a movie can be made by a noob.
jayofthe400 8 months ago
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jayofthe400,
BioShock is WUSSIFICATION or FEMINIZATION of our HARDCORE Video Games!! =/
Read my COMMENTS with tuccake....
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Luckily, we still have FEW that knows how to make HARDCORE Games....
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I'm a Taiwanese living in USA, & I'm sick of your GAY CRAP in our Video Games!! >=(
SEARCH & READ "Gay Power” ≠ “White Power"
Oh yeah, GAY RACIST BLOW AMERICA {Hail to your GAY Zionist-Christian HITLERS} & made our HARDCORE Video Games GAYER than FILMS & MUSICS!! >=P
IronJackalTw 8 months ago
@jayofthe400
I actually disagree, for the most part. See, any noob can make a game just like any noob can make a movie. However, just as a good quality game requires someone with smarts, the same applies to the movies. I will agree that there's been way too many of the same shit appearing in box offices, but there are high quality stuff that get's released either through streaming or DVD. The only reason such good movies don't get mentioned is because box office releases are often hyped up.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
@jayofthe400
Continuing...
While Bioshock and games like it are great, I feel there is an oversaturation of games like that. Plus, I often see such games get noticed for the wrong reasons, what with people playing it as Devinci Code. Bioshock is a good proof of doing it right, since the player has scores of options on how to proceed through the game. It also has a great atmosphere. Atmosphere and gameplay options make it quite an artistic game. However, it's story execution is stagnant.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
@laughingfurry Wait... Bioshocks story execution is STAGNANT??????? What, just... what? I literally do not know what to say dude. no at all...
jayofthe400 8 months ago
@jayofthe400
I'm not saying Bioshock's story is stagnant. The plot around a submarine utopia descending into insanity is brilliant. The story with the little sisters has been done before, but the whole thing with atom differentiates Bioshock from other series who have used a similar plot hook.
What make the story execution stagnant is that story direction is based on the cliche'd "do the right thing or the wrong thing", which would be extract or harvest. It was quite dissapointing.
laughingfurry 8 months ago
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@laughingfurry Wait... Bioshocks story execution is STAGNANT??????? What, just... what? I literally do not know what to say dude. not at all...
jayofthe400 8 months ago
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laughingfurry,
I'm HARDCORE GAMER, and I will speak 4 our VIDEO GAMES R GAME crowd! We used to have VERY GOOD Hardcore VIDEO GAMES! Now a day, VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY keep pander to your VIDEO GAMES R ART crowd, which is nothing but a God-Damn Vocal CULT of MINORITY FEW playing CASUAL GAMES! Personally, I wished all of your ARTsy-FARTsy GAMERS & Roger Ebert would all die off, so we'll have VERY GOOD Hardcore VIDEO GAMES again like what we used to have!! >=)
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
Most of the block-buster video games like Call of Duty (and other I won't mention) are not art, just like Hollywood blockbuster movies are not art. But there definitely are great amounts of games as art: Braid, Limbo, Flower, Portal, Shadow of the Colossus, are very clear examples, but there are tons of games that are great visually, have amazing sound, and tell an more emotional story than an movie ever could! Especially if what you do affects the story...
RiksK15 9 months ago
valve wins
HerrGubba 9 months ago
All of em got PSN! :(
TrickShotOfToDay 9 months ago
where's hideo kojima?
markust1994 10 months ago
@markust1994
He disagrees, from what I heard. Although, I think he has the "video games aren't art, but contain art" mentality.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
Is basketball sport?
stupid questions...
DNesij 10 months ago
Of course games are art. Sure, certain games are developed purely for financial gain/mindless entertainment; however, certain movies, pieces of literature, and music suffer from the same problem, but I have yet to see anyone who doesn't regard them as art forms. Can a game influence one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect? Yes, it can. Can a game be created exclusively for aethestic quality? Yes, undoubtedly.
ShiningNow 10 months ago
There are a couple story-based games no one has mentioned yet that are really great examples of how video games are art (such as Ghost Trick and the Phoenix Wright series, if anyone has heard of them).
27Ganon 10 months ago
what is art? nothing IS art.
Does almost anything you look at in your day to day life possess artistic value? yes.
A beautiful painting means nothing to a blind man, that doesn't stop if from being artistic and beautiful. If you don't think that games can, or should be art then that's your loss. Not mine, or anyone elses who thinks that games are as good a way of projecting ideas and emotions as any song or painting.
Amarkcalledme 11 months ago
if you ask me, games are kinda transedant art. one might say that movie has art in it but is not it self art. but i have to say even suckiest movie is an art. just bechose something is art does not mean its good. but i am suprised to find that we have discusion about this. its like plato and aristoteles. i wonder if greek philsopher culd have ever imagined how they changed the world.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
Bioshock is art.
MW2 is not.
jimmyboyG485 1 year ago
jimmyboyG485,
BioShock is simply JUNK because System Shock 2 is still BETTER Mixed Genre RPG/FPS!! >=P
MW2 is not best of our FPS genre VIDEO GAMES, but it captured some Aspects of those GOOD GAMEPLAY! Another word, MW2 is better than BioShock in term of FPS genre VIDEO GAMES, and that is TRUTH from a HARD CORE GAMER!! >=)
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
DUDE! ITS TED PRICE!!!!!!
j0s3dahedgehog 1 year ago
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games look way better than most paintings that make people "wow" at fancy parties , if they think video games are things for 10 year olds that are just a distraction then well we are all 10 year olds and they can be arrogant reatrded non open mined people
extremeloco23 1 year ago
games are way better than most paintings that make people "wow" at fancy parties , if they think video games are things for 10 year olds that are just a distraction then well we are all 10 year olds and they can be arrogant reatrded non open mined people
extremeloco23 1 year ago
Games that are art-
BioShock
Dragon Age
Mass Effect
Shadow of the Colosuss
Ico
Uncharted 2
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4
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IronJackalTw 1 year ago
Mazz1420,
My game list is better 4 REAL & NORMAL GAMERS out there: Tetris, X-Com: UFO Defense, Gran Turismo, StarCraft, SoulCalibur, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Peferct Dark, Halo: Combat Evolved, Counter-Strike 1.6, Demon's Souls, and so on!! >=)
Most of those VIDEO Art-Wannabe GAMES on your list SUX so far starting from OVER-RATED BioShock, and LittleBigPlanet is simply GAY!! >=P
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
@IronJackalTw
Bioshock is frickin' awesome.
But I see you're one of those idiots who only says they like games from ages ago in an attempt to sound 'pro'.
jimmyboyG485 1 year ago
jimmyboyG485,
BioShock sux! It is just a System Shock 2 WANNABE without GREAT DESIGN! BS only copied very Superficial Aspects of GAMEPLAY from SS2, and they still didn't do it right!! {roll my eyes}
I'm a fairly SKILLED GAMER since days of Street Fighter 2, Mortal Kombat 1 & 2, and so on as a YOUNG YOUTH! I will even give Johnathan "Fatal1ty" Wendel (Quake 3 Arena Champ), Lim "BoxeR" Yo-Hwan (StarCraft), and so on some difficulty if they got sloppy with me!! >=)
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
@IronJackalTw
Anybody who sees CoD as anything other than an easy game for pwning n00bz is not a hardcore gamer. It's the most generic, unskilled FPS in history.
Listing games from years ago does not make you pro, in fact I think you've lost touch with newer games as nolgastia blinds you and you reminisce on the games of your past.
jimmyboyG485 1 year ago
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IronJackalTw 1 year ago
jimmyboyG485,
Weren't U bitching about how CoD: MW2 is not ART!? {roll my eyes}
I don't play ARTS because I played Video GAMES!! >=P
Anyhow, most NEWER Video GAMES today SUX because they tried to be ART! They just don't have DEPTH and even FUN of our OLDER Video GAMES!! >=(
BTW, what's wrong with OLDER Video GAMES? They R so much WELL-MADE then today's Water-Down ARTsy CRAPS!! =/
Go play your LittleQueerPlanet and BullShit because that's what BS stands 4 anyhow!! >=P
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
@IronJackalTw
All your first post consists of is your opinion. Whether or not a game is fun, or interesting, or deep is in the eye of the beholder. You can't say "older games are more well-made" because you're stating your opinion as fact, which suggests you either have the world's largest ego or simply haven't considered that other people might have different opinions to you.
jimmyboyG485 1 year ago
jimmyboyG485,
OLDER Video GAMES R Well-Made compared to your CHURCH of VIDEO GAMES R ART crap because GAMEPLAY had alway been SUPERIOR on those CLASSIC & OLDER Video GAMES! This is from someone that made Video GAMES one of his PRIMARY HOBBY!! {roll my eyes}
Your NEWER Video GAMES R like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, and so on with Auto-Tune while trying to compared to Led Zeppelin, Beatles, and other LEGENDS from Rolling Stone in Music Industry!! >=P
Get out of my Video GAMES!! >=(
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
jimmyboyG485,
VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY is going down hill, and U R part of those SYMPTOMS! Did OLDER Video GAME Developers walking around and telling themselves and others that VIDEO GAMES R ART? HELL NO! They R too busy making BlOCKBUSTER Video GAMES 4 that kind of BS! Now, our GAMERS have to listen this VIDEO GAMES R ART crap! How come I'm not playing more VIDEO GAMES? I'm here because VIDEO GAMES do SUX these days! It is all RE-MAKE and GAMEPLAY not even worth 40 hours per game!! >=(
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
jimmyboyG485,
VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY is broken because FREEDOM OF Video Game PRESS is broken! Back in OLD DAYS, we, GAMERS, would be very well-informed on just about any SMALL & ORIGINAL PRODUCTIONS of Video Games out there! Today, none of those Up-Coming Video Games R ever mention unless they R in bed with Fox News, which bought out IGN in 2005! Most of GAME REVIEWS R really RIGGED just like every other MAJOR GAME REVIEW SITES these days such as IGN, GameSpot, and so on!! >=(
IronJackalTw 1 year ago
@IronJackalTw
Please, if you want to be taken seriously you're gonna have to stop with the conspiracy theories, and the whole word-capitalisation thing.
Games have got better. Not only do the campaigns now have proper storylines and graphics, vastly improving immersion, multiplayer gameplay is far better than it was even 5 years ago.
If you want small, original games, go look at the Indie Games section on the XBL Marketplace.
jimmyboyG485 1 year ago
@IronJackalTw Do you have a mental problem man? Sorry, but denying the truth of the world like videogames as art in such a immature manner shows you to not be a judge of this medium. Have you ever played a videogame man? because I doubt you have from your trollish behavior.
The same thing was said with movies and comic books at first dude. "THEY ROT YOUZ BRANZ!! PROTECTZ THEZ CHILDZ!!!" saying videogames aren't art then movies aren't, and comic books, and even books are not art. You are wrong
jayofthe400 1 year ago
@IronJackalTw Woah there buddy, last I checked if you play any games at all, or own and Xbox, PS3, Wii or a gaming PC like me, then you would know that indie developers are getting the most support ever. Counter Strike, Portal, Minecraft, Bulletstorm - games that were all made by much smaller companies but were then given the support of major companies to become huge successes (with the exception of Minecraft which is still owned by the original developers.) Think before you speak.
negativespace261 11 months ago
@IronJackalTw Why don't you try better then?
Archmage9078 10 months ago
@IronJackalTw Oh, yeah, IronJackel, You do know that the US fucking government now believes videogames to be an artform as well? Face it kiddo YOU LOST.
jayofthe400 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
Just because Video Games contain ART, which is just like a SOCCER BALL contain some kind of ART to ball's surface! That SOCCER BALL is still not ART! Video Games R GAMES to be PLAY with! It is just like a SOCCER BALL is used 4 GAME to be PLAY with, too, not your Retarded ART! Ever wonder why Video Games SUX so badly today!? >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
SEARCH & READ "U.S. Government Designates Video Games/Mobile Technologies/Internet Content "Art Forms""
Video Games should be driven by actual MARKET DEMAND not because U feel like creating your Artsy-Fartsy Video ARTs!! {roll my eyes}
Video Games is more of a CRAFT like a TOY MAKER than an ART! It is very much driven by Cutting-Edge Techs and Cutting-Edge ARTs as well! However, their finished products R GAMES & 4 FUN!! =/
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw 1st off, videogames are at a time where amazing things are coming out every week from all over the world. 2nd, You are more a child. A dumb child that knows nothing of art. I bet money that you don't even know what the dictionary even says about art kiddo.
Also considering the fact that current videogames are better written than anything the movie industry has produced in many years also show that the movie industry is more toylike than the videogame industry is. You lost kid.
jayofthe400 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
"current videogames are better written than anything the movie industry has produced in many years"
U R joking.... right? Video Game Industry today R as SHITTY as Movie Industry with their mostly RE-MAKES! I mean sure they have a FEW really good ones, but they R just RARE these days!! =/
"More a child"!? It took a child to tell the KING that Emperor is naked and had no cloth.... haha!! >=P
SEARCH & READ "The Emperor's New Clothes"
Greatest VIDEO GAMES R Toy-Like!! >=)
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw So remakes are bad even though you already said in a earlier post that older games are better and you just wanna complain about the remakes of those games that you love that a new audience will love? Yep, I just cut a hole right your (dumber and trollish as hell) opinion.
Also, your third paragraph is so all over the place that only a actual child could kill the english language that badly. You have 0 grammer skills and you reply somehow worse than you spell. disgusting really.
jayofthe400 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
I never said that REMAKES R BAD! I said that REMAKES SUX! OLD Video Games, on the other hand, R BAD and had right amount of CRACK COCAINE in them! NEW Video Games R just ART and fucking GAY, which may be GOOD TO LOOK at but BORING AS HELL to PLAY with! That's the difference! It's sad that U people don't even know WHAT THE HELL that U do!! {roll my eyes}
BTW, REMAKES is cue that NEW Video Games LACK BALLS 4 ORIGINALITY, INNOVATION, & RISK-TAKING in Video Games Industry!! =/
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw Sooo... L.A. Noire, Enslaved, Bioshock 1 and 2 borderlands, Assassins creed 2, Portal, Nier, Fallout series, and even mass effect are not original then? Also, the corralation between 'suck' and bad 'bad' is practically hand to hand. So you pretty much admit you are a hypocritical troll. Also comparing videogames to drugs makes you out to be some mommies boy who was banned from playing them because you are most likely some cultist, you are that foolish. Trust me kid, I will win this
jayofthe400 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
Those VIDEO GAMES U listed R not all ART! Fallout 1 & 2 is GREAT, but Fallout 3 SUX! Funny that people talks ART so much would not live up to ORIGINAL!! =/
I don't claim to be PERFECT Human Beings! I bet U tell White Lies before! We all do! Just stop dropping your ball on your SOFTWARE end! The world will always needs some scapegoat to hate or to blame 4 their shortcoming! That's from 3rd rated PARENTS to Double-Talking Dirty POLITICIANS, but those R FREE Publicity!! >=)
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@jayofthe400
Just let him have the last word so he can shut up with his bullshit. He already lost anyways. He'll never get to play a good game, his posts will always require decoding, his idea of deep is most likely The Office or Twilight, and continuing to respond to such a fool will pull you down.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
laughingfurry,
Of course, I'll have LAST WORD because I'm CUSTOMER of VIDEO GAMES.... duh!! {roll my eyes}
As long as I'm alive, U better not call our VIDEO GAMES as VIDEO ARTS because that's GAY and ARTsy-FARTsy! If U R GAY, go to GAY CLUB and go GAY SHIT there! If U R ARTsy-FARTsy, go to your ART MUESEUM and go ART APE SHIT there! None of our GAMERS give a rat's ARSE of your INSECURITY because Roger Ebert wants U to suck his GAY DICK, which U seems to want to suck it all the time!! =/
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
laughingfurry,
How many VIDEO GAMES have Roger Ebert buy at all? He is so IRREVERENT! Grow a fucking BRAIN!! >=(
Why is Video Games Industry forced to act like Movie Industry? Stop making our VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY as SHITTY as their MOVIE INDUSTRY!! =/
BTW, VIDEO GAMES R SOFTWARES! Do U Debug ART? The day I'll accept VIDEO GAMES as ART is when U don't Debug any VIDEO GAMES! Until then, Video Games R GAME & FUN! Another word, it is U that have a PROBLEM with Roger Ebert not us!! >=P
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw
Well then, enjoy being a pretentious gamer. So sad how easily I got under your skin, no? Quite pathetic, really.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
laughingfurry,
Where were U, VIDEO GAMES R ART crowd, when VIDEO GAMES only have 16-bit or 8-bit graphics? I know U wouldn't claim those OLDER Video Games as ART! I guess those Pixelated Video Games couldn't let your Narcissistic Personality Disorder TYPE proclaim your VANITY to our GAMERS! OLDER Video Games R so much better DESIGNED because they focused more on GAMEPLAY and less on Superficial BS! Our GAMERS want to PLAY not WATCH your GAY MOVIE WANNABE SHIT!! =/
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
laughingfurry,
U obviously don't want me to have LAST WORD!! {roll my eyes}
Roger Ebert is just some GAY LOW-LIFE that wants to GAY FUCK with our VIDEO GAMES because it is not GAY ENOUGH LIKE HIM! U R his LITTLE ARTsy-FARTsy BITCH ready to make our VIDEO GAMES as GAY as his MOVIE INDUSTRY!! >=(
VIDEO GAMES R SPORT, GAME, & FUN kind of like CHESS! If we want ART, we would get those outside of VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY! U want our GAMING MONEY! U better make what we want NOT WHAT U WANT!! >=)
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@IronJackalTw Is it just me? Or am I the only one who can't tell if you are serious, or seriously have something wrong with you. Everytime you open your textbox ignorance and stupidity floods out like blood through a wound to your artery. But anyways, enough talking about blood, you suck at replying, in fact, I bet you do it on purpose so you can have the last pathetic word that you think you are important but in all actuality you are just a pathetic troll that will NEVER amount to anything ever
jayofthe400 9 months ago
@jayofthe400 dont feed the troll -_- , and worst of all, don't sound like an asshole while doing it. Just ignore. They go away, and you can discuss the question with non-idiots! Thats always a good time ^^
n16pr 9 months ago
@n16pr Actually, he isn't a troll. He's just an immature brat who's pushing his opinions upon others. That's why I blocked him from my videos months ago. If I can't stand Sarah Palin, I won't stand Jackal.
You are right about something, which is discussing this with other people. IronJackal is too narrowminded to have any decent conversation with.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
@laughingfurry -_-, do you really think anyone is that stupid? that anyone actually believes bioware is a gay conspiracy?
Its an obvious troll. He's just fucking with you. If you can't recognize it, you need to spend more time on internet forums, or you will keep dragging yourself into pointless debates like this one.
Unless you're co-trolling 0_o... in which case, good job, you got me.
n16pr 9 months ago
@n16pr
about bioware: I've seen and heard worse conspiracy theories. Him believing there's a conspiracy with bioware is alot more believable than what I hear half the time.
about trolling: I doubt you know what trolling is. I'll simplify it as this. If he was trolling, he would still be making major movie references. There's a huge difference between trolling and not thinking. Clearly, he just isn't thinking.
laughingfurry 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
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n16pr,
BRINK is sponsored by Todd Howard, & it SUX! If your GAY KINDS can have YOUR WAY, we'll all be playing with PINK JOYSTICKS only!! >=(
BRINK is so GAY, too, just look at them try to GAY on our FPS now....
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SEARCH & READ "BRINK GameSpot REVIEWS"
Tribute to Quake (started it all 4 FPS)....
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Tribute to Perfect Dark N64 (benchmark 4 any Great Console FPS)....
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Please leave our HeteroSexual GAMERS alone with your GAY & Pink ARTsy-FARTsy BS!! >=(
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
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IronJackalTw 9 months ago
jayofthe400,
It is just U! Trust me on this! U have a lot of INSECURITY in U, and most of all, lots of MISCONCEPTION on what GAMERS really WANT from our VIDEO GAMES!! {roll my eyes}
Here is your VIDEO GAMES R ART Video Game Makers, which Homefront claimed their HOMOFRONT IS ART!! =/
SEARCH & READ "Homefront Best Buy REVIEWS"
Please feel free to read through those Truthful but Negative REVIEWS, which really amount to Homefront SUX!! >=P
IronJackalTw 9 months ago
@jayofthe400
He's just an idiot who's trying to push his narrow viewpoint onto others. It would be like trying to argue with Roger Ebert or Sarah Palin. Although, both Ebert and Palin show alot more intelligence than Jackal.
I myself do some videos on this subject an am curious what your take is on my opinions, so you're welcome to comment on my videos. Regardless if you do or don't, you should still try not to both with Jackal. He's obviously not too bright.
laughingfurry 9 months ago