There is only 1 inescapable truth. There is no evidence for god. No devine fingerprint that is present in modern day. NO PROPHETS, NO MIRACLES, NO HEALINGS, NO RESURRECTIONS, NO ANGELS NO DEVILS NOTHING THAT ENCHANTS ITSELF WITH THE OLD OR NEW TESTAMENT. UNLESS YOUR MORMON WHICH IS A CULT
We either have a natural or supernatural worldview, an origin biais or a priori if you will, that affects our way of seeing life, events et even evidence. We evidently have opposing worldviews.
No we may have similar world views but our spiritual views are different. I have a campbellian view. Spirituality is something all humans share, but disagree because event either don't allow it or its seen with a sore eye. I would always be mistrusted around christians because of my past. whether I brought up paganism or astrology or new age or catholism or mormonism. You would call me a cultist no matter what so I follow fred
@Mrsmarthamcgregor, Being convinced of a truth use to be within the realm of the holy spirit for me. Unfortunately, When I asked God, if I should marry a certain girl, I was lied to by that self same spirit. This is why I believe there is no God. By objective reasoning the spirit cannot lie but it did.
Relativism right? Well, if that's the case, that IS pretty shaky ground my friend. Relativism is self-defeating from the start.
I recommend a book by Lee Strobel called The Case for a Creator
Here's a quote from him:
"If Darwinism is true, then there are five inescapable conclusions: there's no evidence for God, there's no life after death, there's no absolute foundation for right and wrong, there's no ultimate meaning for life, and people don't really have free will."
5 inescapable conclusions? I can name religions and governments that define alternatives to christian beliefs as you out lined. So for a moment Ill take your second one. life after death, astrology and budhism have no Gods and all suggest there is a new life after death. that bring you to 4. george carlins dismantling of the 10 commandments destroys the need for ultimate right an wrong of the big 10. Thats 3. There is no meaning to life all christian agree on that 2 left. Free will, since when
lmao the people here here insult ether the quran or the bible ether way if ones from Christ insulting quran hes also insulting his bible there books from god but which one has not been tampered with by man that is the quran witch has been preserved in its original form the quran witch does not have fualts the quran !
It's not a question of insulting the Koran for the sake of insulting. It's more a question of proclaiming the TRUTH. The truth will always offend those who seek to justify sin or false doctrine.
i`d just lyk 2 say ..you`ve missed out sum bits m8 ...lyk tha holy ghost do you actually kno wht tht means its jus been intrepretated wrong just as you have in this video ...u dnt kno tha full meaning of it ..go bk and read tha king james version of tha bible PROPERLY and try to understand it PROPERLY
et pour un croyant je te trouve bien fermé aux autres textes religieux " sa se passera dans l'au dela " qui est tu pour juger ? Dieu? excuse moi seigneur je m'anoblie devant ton savoir !
Je n'entretiens pas de haine pour qui que se soit. Au contraire, c'est pas amour pour mon Sauveur Jésus Christ que je parle de Lui à tous, pas justes au musulmans, pour qu'ils se repentent et croient, parce c'est là ce que mon Seigneur nous a dit de faire, jusqu'à son retour. Chacun est libre de rejeter le don de Dieu en Jésus Christ, mais on est pas libre des conséquences !
pourquoi tant de haine? je ne sais pas pour grace abondance mais moi je ne contredit pas le coran ni ses preuves scientifiques je le prend tel kel et le considère au même titre que la bible ou la thorah comme un livre saint divin pourquoi tant d'acharnement a essayer de démonter quelque chose qui nous dépasse car il est au rang du divin ta foi n'est elle pas assez forte pour que tu ten contente ? et au passage Luc n'est pas un apotre mais un disciple grosse différence !
Je n'ai jamais dit que Luc était un apôtre, mais ça ne change rien puisqu'il a authentifier son récit par des témoins occulaires. Puis, de toute façon, nous ne croyez ni à Mathieu ni à Jean. Vous avez des excuses pour douter sur tout.
Satan dit à Ève :"Dieu a-t-il réellement dit cela?"
pourquoi Mathieu ne pourrait il pas raconté a la troisième personne sa rencontre avec Jesus ? Il ne se met pas au niveau du prophète car ce n'est pas lui le personnage le plus important de l'evangile mais bien Jesus
puis ils se sont mis a l'ecrire ,de plus la version terminée du Coran a été remodifié pour l'ortographe (dc possibilité d'erreur par rapport a la vraie version ) , puis le calife Osman a fait détruire tous textes anciens pour en donner une version définitive dc celui a pu etre modifié a son tour
les livres sacré ont tous été réecrit de la main de l'homme .ex: la révélation du Coran a duré plus de 20 ans et au départ Mahomet faisait apprendre par coeur les versets a ses compagnons .
Apprendre par coeur un texte n'est pas une preuve de la révélation divine. Les gens apprennent dans toutes les langues de longues poésies. Ça ne rend pas les poèmes divins pour autant.
Matthieu et Jean étaient des disciples car ils ont été des temoins directs de la prédication de Jésus , ils l'ont connus , cotoyés et suivis lors de ses voyages afin de transmettre le message divin au peuple .les 4 evangiles se completent et non qu'un but retransmettre les paroles de Jesus .Jean 20.21 : Jesus leur dit : la paix soit avec vous ! comme Dieu m'a envoyé , moi aussi je vous envoie .
Jean lui rend témoignage, et s'écrie en ces termes: "Voici celui dont je disais: Celui qui vient après moi, est passé devant moi, parce qu'il était avant moi."
si c'est jean qui écrit l'évangile pourquoi ne dit-il pas JE ???? c'est une autre personne qui parle a la place de jean !
le coran aussi dit que jésus est la vérité, mais le jésus dont vous parlez ! aucun musulman ne doute du message véridique de jésus, maus votre bible contradictoire n'est pas celle de dieu
Facile à dire, pas facile à prouver, cher ami. Votre raisonnement est circulaire et s'annule de lui-même. Vous avancez des accusations sans fondement. Qui a changé la Bible alors? quand? comment? où? en quelle année? Comment changer des milliers de manuscrits dispersés dans le monde en même temps, surtout à cette époque? et les mêmes versets?
Tant et aussi longtemps que vous n'aurez pas de réponses claires à ces questions, je ne peux prendre vos accusations au sérieux.
C'est quoi ces questions qui servent à rien ? qui a quel moment ? la question c'est d'analyser le livre, et de voir si l'homme la changer ou pas, car dieu est parfait il ne peut se contredir, or dans les évangiles il y'a une tonne de contradictions, normalement il y'a un seul livre c'est ecrit dans le coran et l'évangile, qu'il y'a qu'un sel évangile, mais vous en aavez plein
Ce sont des querstions tut à fait légitmie face aux accusations que le Coran porte contre la Bible. Des questions auxquelles vous n'avez pas de réponses.
Votre seul subterfuge est de nier la Bible, nier Moïse, nier les prophètes, nier Jésus Christ, nier ses apôtres.
Votre foi est un grand reniement !
Mais la vérité ne change pas. Personne peut la changer.
c'est pas en inventant des choses qu'on arrive a régler un problème, le coran confirme tout les prophètes, l'évangile etc mais vous ne vous rendez pas compte que la bible est contradictoire ? et que le coran ne l'ai pas ? et qui êtes vous pour juger ma foi ? est-ce la bible qui vous le permet ?
"qui êtes vous pour juger ma foi ? est-ce la bible qui vous le permet ?"
Voilà cher ami, vous avez tout compris !
Il est évident que si je porte un jugement sur ta foi ou sur le Coran, ou sur tout autre chose, que soit le bouddhisme ou l'évolution darwinienne, c'est selon la Parole de Dieu, qui révèle sa volonté poutr TOUS les hommes de toute race de toute religion, musulamans inclus. La Bible nous met tous au même niveau de pécheurs pour qui Christ est mort.
ah ba voila enfin vous dites la vérité ! mais savez vous a moin que vous baser votre foi sur un livre totalement contradictoire ? La bible a été modifiée par les hommes! ce ne sont pas les apôtres qui ont écrits les évangiles !
J'ai placé ma foi sur les promesses de Dieu contenues dans la Bible et Dieu a toujours gardé ses promesses. Dieu n'est pas un homme pour mentir. Dieu garde ses promesses, mon ami. Je les ai éprouvées maintes et maintes fois. Vos arguments contre la Bible sont vains et inutiles. Vous perdez votre temps. Dieu aura toujours le dernier sur les paroles des hommes.
lol vous êtes marrant, ce verser vous démontrer que c'est pas Matthieu qui a écrit cet évangile, et un autre verset chez luc qui explique qu'il était pas témoin, et marc ne l'a jamais vu de sa vie ! c'est la raison pour la quelle la bible et trufée de contradiction, car elle vient de l'homme ! tandis que le coran ! il est parfait sans contradictions !
Luc et Marc ont fait vérifier leur texte auprès de témoins occulaires. Luc le dit expressément et Marc était connu de Pierre. Elle sont donc aussi fidèles que Mathieu et Jean. Mais de toute façon, vous ne croyez ni Mathieu ni Jean. Pour vous ce sont des faux témoins, des menteurs. Votre foi vous oblige à croire que tous les prohètes sont des menteurs, ainsi que Jésus Christ ! Ce n'est pas une foi très attirante. La Bible demeure le Livre de Dieu que vous rejeté.
ma foi m'oblige a croire à tout les prophètes ! et c'est ecrit dans le coran ! et marc luc paul ne sont pas des prophètes ! les évangiles pour la plupart sont attribué a des gens qui ne les ont pas écrit ! ce sont des livres anonymes !
Tu DIS que tu croies aux prophètes, mais c'est une illusion, parce que le Coran CONTREDIT les prophètes. Cela n'est pas difficile à prouver. Mais tu refuses de croire. Tu te fais à croire que tu es dans la vérité.
"Telle voie paraît droite à un homme, Mais son issue, cest la voie de la mort." Proverbes de Salomon 16:25
Vous croyez que tout ce que vous dites est la vérité, le monde entier à tors mais vous vous avez raison ? qu'est-ce que cette façon d'être ? l'évangile a été décendu par Allah, les hommes ont modifié le livre d'Allah, du coup ca n'est plus le même livre, donc votre livre humain contredit notre livre divin ! et y'a des preuves ! dans le coran c'est écrit l'évavngile et non pas les évangiles comme vous en avez plusieur ! et jésus a envoyé les disciple prêché l'évangile !
Pas ce que je dis, mais ce que la Bible dit.Oui, je crois que la Bible dit la vérité. Je juge selon ce qu'elle dit. J'en ai éprouvé maintes et maintes fois ses promesses et ses vérités. Vous, vous dites que les hommes ont modifié la Bible. C'est évident que votre prophète deevait vous faire avaler cette pillule, s'il voulait s'établir comme prophète. Mais c'est un élément qui joue contre Mahomet, et vous.
si seulement il y'avait que le prophète Muhammad pbsl qui dit que la bible a été modifiée, mais les les historiens du monde entier le disent alors u'ils ne sont pas musulmans ! ainsi que les plus grand théologiens ! vous faites vos vidéo car beaucoup de chrétiens ouvrent les yeux et deviennent musulmans ! cela vous embête !
evidemment que la foi oblige a croire a tous les prophetes sinon cela veut dire que nous nous eloignons de dieu cependant jesus a demandé a Matthieu , Marc, Luc et Jean de transmettre le message divin au monde . ce ne sont pas de prophetes mais au même titre que la foi chrétienne peut se reposer sur des livres non écrits par Jesus , l'Islam a également une partie de sa croyance sur les hadiths qui non pas tous été rapporté par Mahommet
sauf que l'évangile qui est sensé être la parole de dieu transmise à jésus directement, est en faite un assemblement de texte que jésus n'a jamais vu ou lu ou dicté ! jean paul luc ne sont pas des disciple c'est pas du à s'en rendre compte ! et vous avez plusieur évangile, mais en vérité il n'y y'en avait q'un seul, celui que dieu a révélé à jésus ! or ceux que vous avez n'ont rien avoir avec L'EVANGILE de dieu !
Mais il y avait des gens comme vous même au temps des apôtres !
"quelques-uns sétant écartés, se sont détournés à un vain babil, voulant être docteurs de la loi, nentendant ni ce quils disent, ni ce sur quoi ils insistent." 1 Tim.1:6-7
On dirait un enfant naîf qui veux à tout prix croire en sa bible même si elle contredit l'histoire la science et la logique ! le Coran parle de vous tous de moi de chaque personne sur terre ! l'évangile que vous avez n'est pas celui de jésus, je me fou que vous me croyiez ou non, sa se passera dans l'au dela...
Another contradiction between the Bible and the Koran, is that the God of the Bible always swears by himself as Heb 6.13 says: "For when God made promise to Abraham, since he could swear by none greater, he sware by himself"
In the Koran, god swears by more than 20 different things like the winds, the moon, the stars, the redness of the sunset, by angles, a mountain, by a city, the night, the fig, the olive, the time, etc !!
The god of the Koran is thus inferior to creation.
Jesus Christ is far from being gone my friend. He is at God's right hand and has received all judgment from Him. You will stand before Him one day and have to give account of all your deeds and all your hard words against Him.
Repent and believe the Gospel my friend before it's too late, as Jesus said in Mark 1:15
You are in a great confusion friend. You have no idea of what you are saying. First, what I said of Deedat is that you are putting your trust in a man, in his words. For you whatever deedat says is the truth, without verifying yourself in the Bible. You oinly repeat what HE said. Have you ever read the Bible for yourself ?
You should.
Also NEVER NEVER NEVER has any intelligent Christian believed the BLASPHEMY you just said, that I would be ashamed even of writing !!
Oh, so you're a Deedatist, a follower of Deedat, a man who is a sinner like you and me?
Sorry, good try, but I will continue to be follower of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, the Messiah, Savior and Lord of lords. Deedat is dead, Christ lives for ever more !!!
God speaks... we are to listen to ALL his words. If you pick and choose or reject his words according to your own fancy, then your are limiting yourself and God's revelation.
You can't play Russian Roulette or Koran Roulette with the Bible.
Jesus said in no uncertain terms, although not YOUR terms (why should he?) words that identify him and puts him on an equal footing with God. You can reject or worship. Accept and be free, reject and die in your sins.
We also believe in Jesus (Isa) but not that he is God..bcuz He never Said to anybody in his own words..I am your Lord ..worship me.
Quran:
Al-Baqara (The Cow)
# 2:136 Say : "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us, and what has been revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the (12) tribes, and in (The books) given to Moses and Jesus, and (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
John 5:30"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: & my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will,but the will of the Father which hath sent me" (Jesus can't perform miracles without GOD's help)..so Jesus can never be God.
Jesus the Son of God is also Jesus the Son of Man. The man Christ Jesus is also the eternal Word of God made flesh. He has in his person human and divine attributes. You cannot set up his human attributes as an excuse against his divine attributes, on the basis of human reasoning and philosophies. You can only accept both, bow down and worship in awe and say as Thomas: "My Lord and my God !"
John 5:30"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: & my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will,but the will of the Father which hath sent me" (Jesus can't perform miracles without God's help)
Even more interesting is that Muslims say that both the OT and NT have been corrupted and completely changed. According to them, Christians cannot quote it as truth because of this "so called corruption." However, Muslims are quick to quote the Bible in proof of their false prophet and religion.
Thanks for the defence. It is with divine Justice that from the Koran we see Mohammed's filthy acts as a coward, had a child bride ( 9yrs), was a murderer, a thief , a robber amongst other crimes. Hence Jesus prophecy came true that we would know them by their works. In no uncertain terms could Mo be a prophet of any loving God based on his hateful Character. But he was a prophet. Satan's perfect Prophet in fact he boasted that he who sent him loved him more than Jesus. Satan doesn't love Jesus.
Je crois en Dieu, le Père tout-puissant, créateur du ciel et de la terre. Et en Jésus Christ, son Fils unique, notre Seigneur, qui a été conçu du Saint-Esprit, est né de la Vierge Marie, a souffert sous Ponce Pilate, a été crucifié, est mort et a été enseveli, est descendu aux enfers le troisième jour est ressuscité des morts, est monté aux cieux, est assis à la droite de Dieu le Père tout-puissant, d'où il viendra juger les vivants et les morts.
oui le Vatican l'a confirmé un dialogue est possible mais un dialogue seulemnt
Mais un tel fossé théologique nous sépare des musulmans
Pour ne prendre qu'un exemple, le Credo le Credo est résumé en une prière de tout ce en quoi tout les chrétien croient qu'il soit catholiques, protestants etc...
[13] O gens ! Nous vous avons créés d'un mâle et d'une femelle, et Nous avons fait de vous des nations et des tribus, pour que vous vous entre-connaissiez. Le plus noble d'entre vous, auprès d'Allah, est le plus pieux. Allah est certes Omniscient et Grand Connaisseur.
Donc laissons notre divergence de coté "dieu jugera entre nous" &
unissons nous sur des choses en commun.
comme combatre la misère la pauvreté, la drogue, la propreté, l'écologie etc.........
Je suis d'accord qu'il y a plusieurs problèmes commun à tous qu'il faut combattre mais le problème c'est que nos divergences sont trop importantes pour les ignorer. Je ne peux pas mettre de côté l'amour de Dieu et le sacrifice expiatoire de son Fils pour nous sauver (vous y compris) de nos péchés et de l'enfer. Mettre de côté Jésus Christ, c'est faire ce que la majorité du monde fait. Je ne suis plus du monde.
Lorsque tu récites le Coran, Nous mettons entre toi-même et ceux qui n'ont pas foi en la vie dernière un rideau couvrant.* Nous mettons sur leur cœur des bâches qui les empêcheront de le comprendre et dans leurs oreilles une surdité. Puis, lorsque tu évoques, (en récitant) le Coran, ton Seigneur dans Son unicité, ils tournent le dos en signe de dissentiment. (Coran, Al-lsrâ'- 17/45-46)
C'est pourquoi, selon les termes mêmes du Coran, un rideau couvrant ou un "voile obscur" se formera entre quiconque a des préjugés et une approche calculée d'un côté et le Coran de l'autre côté. Ce fait est mentionné dans un verset:
II est impossible de comprendre le Coran si on l'approche avec des arrière-pensées et des préjugés. C'est une loi de Dieu. Quelles que soient l'intelligence et la culture de la personne, si elle n'approche pas le Coran avec des intentions sincères, elle ne pourra pas être en mesure de le comprendre ou de l'interpréter correctement. Aussi, elle n'en tirera que de fausses conclusions.
C'est pourquoi il lui manque la capacité de raisonner et, comme il ne peut pas raisonner, il ne pourra émettre que des hypothèses déformées et irréfléchies en interprétant les versets coraniques.
L'homme de foi, sincère et consciencieux peut comprendre et appliquer avec facilité les sujets et les commandements spirituels de base qui sont indiqués dans le Coran. Cependant, le non-croyant, qui n'est pas sincère et qui a des préjugés, même s'il connaît l'arabe et a d'immenses connaissances techniques, voire même s'il est considéré comme expert dans son domaine, il ne pourra pas comprendre correctement le Coran, puisqu'il suit son ego.
Y a-t-il en effet plus inique que celui qui, ayant été rappelé des versets de son Seigneur, s'en détourna, oubliant ainsi ce qu'ont commis ses propres mains? Nous avons mis sur leur cœur des bâches qui les empêcheront de le comprendre et dans leurs oreilles une surdité: tu peux bien les appeler à la bonne voie, mais ils ne sauront jamais se guider. (Coran, AI-Kahf- \ 8/57)
C'est un miracle du Coran. Un verset qui est très facile à comprendre pour un homme de foi rend perplexe un non-croyant. Ceci nous montre que la compréhension du Coran dépend de la sincérité et des intentions de la personne et que c'est Dieu qui décide si la personne devait recevoir cette compréhension ou non. Ledit aspect est clarifié dans le verset suivant:
Ces gens égoïstes prétendent que les versets du Coran, qui sont très clairs, sont contradictoires et embrouillants. Dans nombre de ses passages, le Coran mentionne, à travers des exemples, la confusion affichée par ceux qui le récusent lorsqu'ils se demandent:"Qu'est-ce que Dieu veut faire comprendre par cet exemple?"En effet, exactement comme le Coran nous le dit, à chaque époque les dénégateurs ont admis, directement ou autrement, qu'ils n'ont pas été capables de comprendre ces
Les expressions les plus explicites leur sembleront alors contradictoires. Quelle que soit leur intelligence, leur culture ou leur connaissance du Coran, ils sont en réalité incapables de comprendre son contenu et ce en raison de leur manque de foi en Dieu.
Quand on étudie les allégations faites par les personnes qui s'opposent au Coran, les malentendus et les lacunes de la logique sur laquelle elles se sont basées apparaissent évidents.
Après qu'un individu accède à la foi, la profondeur de sa foi et de sa prière, ainsi que le niveau de sa connaissance deviendront les facteurs qui lui accorderont l'accès aux complexités et aux mystères du Coran.
Par ailleurs, ceux qui n'ont pas la foi, ou qui ne craignent pas Dieu, ne peuvent pas comprendre le Coran correctement, puisqu'ils ne peuvent que mal interpréter les sujets les plus évidents qu'ils prétendent connaître.
En fait, à mesure que la foi de l'homme augmente, sa sagesse, sa sincérité et sa crainte de Dieu augmentent à la même cadence et ainsi les points et les mystères les plus
fins du Coran lui deviennent bien compréhensibles. Quand, en effet, une personne qui n'a pas la foi lit le Coran sincèrement et sans arrière-pensée, elle se rend compte que c'est un livre saint et accède ainsi à la foi. Comme les versets de Dieu sont clairs, ils peuvent avoir un effet immédiat sur l'homme.
Certes, Nous avons modulé dans ce Coran afin qu'ils méditent, mais cela ne fait qu'accentuer leur détournement.(Coran 17/41)
Ce que nous avons dit jusqu'ici indique clairement que seuls ceux qui sont sincères dans leur foi comprendront le Coran correctement. Certes, le Coran a été révélé par Dieu en tant que livre clair, mais seuls ceux des serviteurs de Dieu qui en ont la foi, qui mettent à profit leur raison et qui cherchent à être guidés par le Coran,peuvent facilement le comprendre.
4) le comprendre facilement et ainsi suivre ses commandements.
Cependant, ceux-là qui suivent leurs ego, qui n'admettent pas absolument la puissance de Dieu et qui ont des doutes au sujet du monde de l'au-delà, ils utiliseront leur logique tordue pour mal interpréter les versets du Coran. Dans le verset suivant, Dieu nous fait part de la nature de ces hommes qui ne cherchent pas à être guidés par le Coran:
L'approche, voire la compréhension de ce Livre révélé, est donc à la portée de tout le monde qui s'y dispose. Dieu - exalté soit-ll - dit dans l'un des versets du Coran:
ô gens, il vous est venu une exhortation de votre Seigneur, une guérison de ce qui est dans les poitrines, une lumière et une miséricorde pour ceux qui ont la foi. (Coran, Yûnus- 10/57)
Comme illustré dans ce verset, ceux qui ont la foi en Dieu et qui obéissent à leur conscience peuvent tirer bénéfice du Coran,
Bien plus, ils seront hautement récompensés dans ce monde et dans celui de l'au-delà. Réciproquement, ceux qui approchent le Coran avec hypocrisie et animosité subiront les conséquences de leur action. Ils ne comprendront jamais le Coran, ne bénéficieront point de sa sagesse et perdront dans ce monde et dans l'au-delà. D'autant plus que leur résolution à nuire par tous les moyens à leur portée ne pourra qu'échouer, puisqu'ils ne pourront pas nuire au Coran et ne nuiront donc point à l'Islam
Dieu, Seigneur de tous les univers, qui a le savoir parfait et la puissance indéfectible, fit descendre le Coran en source de miséricorde pour toute l'humanité. Il accorda ainsi Sa bienveillance à toutes les nations du monde. Partant, ceux qui acceptent cette gratification divine avec sincérité et gratitude en tireront avantage. A travers leur foi en ce Livre, ils pourront le comprendre, donc le suivre, et ainsi recevoir la miséricorde qu'il vient diffuser.
[157] et à cause de leur parole: "Nous avons vraiment tué le Christ, Jésus, fils de Marie, le Messager d'Allah"... Or, ils ne l'ont ni tué ni crucifié; mais ce n'était qu'un faux semblant! Et ceux qui ont discuté sur son sujet sont vraiment dans l'incertitude: ils n'en ont aucune connaissance certaine, ils ne font que suivre des conjectures et ils ne l'ont certainement pas tué,
Mussies are the most dishonest people on earth,without any honour or dignity, they will swear on the koran and tellyou alie to your face.Its all in the koranic upbringing.Taqiyya (lying)and hudibyia(deception) seems to be part of everyday life.What a f##king way of living.Will mussies progress,hardly.Have been pimps will always be pimps and international basket cases.
Ce fondamentalisme m'attriste. Rejeter du revers de la main la croyance d'une civilisation en citant des textes poussiéreux. Je suis triste pour nos frères musulmans qui croient en leur Dieu et en leurs écrits avec la même ferveur que vous. L'important au fond n'est-il pas le bien que la religion vous procure ou n'est-ce que la poursuite d'une croisade du genre Holier than you... Aussi documenté que vous l'êtes et versé dans la connaissance d'un vieil écrit, vous ne devriez pas agir ainsi.
Vous paerlez des paroles des prophètes et de Jésus Christ le Messie, prophéties qui se sont tous accomplies jusqu'à date. La Bible est plus à jour que le journal devant paraître demain.
Jésus a dit, "le ciel et la terre passeront mais mes paroles ne passeront point".
"croisade du genre Holier than you."
Pas du tout. Je suis un pécheur comme vous. La seul différence est que j'ai accepté le don de grâce qui m'étais offert.
After the fall of man, God promised a seed, a seed that would "bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel" (Genesis 3:15 ). God was speaking to Satan just after the fall, so it is Satan's head that will be bruised but Satan shall bruise the seed's heel.
Man was created to have fellowship with God and to rule over the earth and have dominion over the earth as God's vice regent...
...In all of God's creation ONLY MAN was created to have fellowship with God. God would meet with Adam on a regular basis and fellowship with him.
God had COMMANDED Adam not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:16 -17). Then only one chapter later we see Adam and Eve VIOLATING this command. Eve was deceived by the serpent but ADAM DISOBETED GOD INTENTIONALLY...
...Because of this DISOBEDIENCE, God drove them out of the Garden and protected the tree of life so they could not eat of it and live forever in their disobedience.
The consequence of Adam's sin was that he would DIE SPIRITUALLY, that the Spirit of God within man would die and that man would eventually die physically. This physical condition of spiritual and physical death was passed on to Adam's descendants. Today, man is born spiritually dead and destined to die physically...
...In Genesis 3:15, God promised a seed, Jesus Christ (Emmanuel- God with us), who would not only PAY THE PRICE OF SIN so that man could again be in fellowship with God, but would provide a new spirit for man and eternal life in fellowship with God.
This promised seed will destroy the works of the devil and provide a way for man to have fellowship with God by giving man a new spirit (Holy Spirit) which we call being "born again" (spiritually)...
...This SEED will also provide a way for man to receive eternal life with a new INCORRUPTIBLE BODY.
God preserved His promised seed through Abraham and Sarah by allowing them to give birth to a child in their later years. The promised seed is clearly from God and could only be preserved by God. The line of the promised seed continued through Abraham's son, Isaac in Genesis 26, through Jacob in Genesis 28, and through Judah in Genesis 49...
...Throughout all this preservation of the line of the seed that was promised we see many details about the coming seed. Here are a few:
1. The promised seed will not only be human but divine. Thus a supernatural birth is required and we see this fulfilled in the virgin birth by way of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament...
...2. The promised seed will be of human birth of the lineage of David, "And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever (2 Samuel 7:16 ).
3. The promised seed would be born of a virgin, "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14 )...
4. The promised seed must be divine to fulfill Old Testament prophecy because this promised seed was referred to as "the mighty God," "The everlasting Father," "The Prince of Peace, whose goings forth have been from of old, everlasting ."
5. The promised seed was to be born in Bethlehem as in Micah 5:2.
6. The promised seed is identified as Israel 's King who will sit on His father David's throne. See Psalms 2 and 2 Samuel 7:12-16.
7. The promised seed will be a suffering servant. This can be seen in Isaiah 52:13-53:12 and in Psalms 22.
One should remember that the promised seed will not only be a suffering seed but Jeremiah explains in 23:5 that He will also be a triumphant King . "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth."
8. We can see these details fulfilled in the New Testament and it is here that the promised seed is manifested in the flesh. The book of Galatians says that the seed is singular, not plural and that the promised seed is Jesus Christ. (Galatians 3:13-16)
Not only is this promised seed identified as Jesus Christ, we can see Him fulfilling the Old Testament details of the promised seed. (Matthew 1:18, Genesis 3:15, John 1:1-2, John 1:10-14, 1 Peter 3:18)
After the manifestation of the promised seed we see that this good news of promised seed is to be proclaimed. The news that His death, burial and resurrection ACCOMPLISHED MANS RECONCILIATION TO GOD and life eternal with an incorruptible body.
God wants all men to know that salvation has been provided He gave believers what is known as the Great Commission. In this Great Commission it can be seen that THOSE WHO RESPOND to this good news, are to be taught and trained.
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
The ultimate consummation of God's plan is for man to be restored back into fellowship with Himself and ruling over the earth.
This is the primary purpose of the promised seed. When God created man he said, "Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness. Let them rule over the fish in the sea, over the birds in the sky, over the cattle, and over all the earth and every creeping thing on the earth."
THE PROMISED SEED IS JESUS CHRIST and the good news of the gospel is that GOD HAS PROVIDED HIS PROMISED SEED.
NOTICE THAT, Those of the Old Testament who had faith in the promised seed were saved. Those today who have faith in the promised seed, Jesus Christ, are also saved and receive a new spirit and one day will receive an incorruptible body.
Apostle Paul said in the book of Galatians 3:26-29,
"For ye are ALL the children of God BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have PUT ON CHRIST. There is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK , there is neither BOND NOR FREE, there is neither MALE NOR FEMALE: for YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS. And IF YE BE CHRIST'S, THEN ARE YE ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE."
SCRIPTURE SAYS, FIRST COMES DEATH AND THEN JUDGMENT.
CHRISTIANS will be judged at the judgment seat of Christ BY the promised seed, Jesus Christ. UNBELIEVERS will be judged at the Great White Throne judgment mentioned in Revelation by the promised seed.
Then there will be the creation of a new heaven and a new earth. A fresh and new start for a new type of Human being; the living Spirit of God, in an INCORRUPTIBLE AND GLORIFIED BODY! Amen, Halleluyah!!!
You must ADMIT, that version of the story is in the Qur'an, and NOT the Bible.
Being that the books of the Bible were written in some instances, THOUSANDS of years BEFORE Muhammad and Islam, THE BIBLE TESTS AND JUDGES THE QUR'AN.
When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority as per the Law of Historical Precedent.
Therefore, under scholarly scrutiny, THE QUR'AN IS IN ERROR UNTIL IT PROVES ITSELF.
your bible was corrupted with writings from priests anp people who claimed to received revelation from allh.the people hwo refused issa (jesus)peace and blessings be upon him added and deleted so many things.
and until now people are taking and adding words into it(it's cold new version)!!??, the quoran is the only revelation to man kind who will be protected until allah(god)will take back all his creations and call us for the day of judjment.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is NOT what your own prophet and the Qur'an say about Jewish and Christian scriptures.
The Qur'an you have today was the VERSION known as the Uthmanic Codex. You have no original Qur'an in existence , nor manuscript evidence to authenticate it's veracity or authority.
Anybody who lived in the days of Mohammed in Arabia and who knew superficially the Gospels knew already that God had visited Mary, sent his angel Gabriel to her to announce that she would miraculously conceive by the Holy Spirit ArRab Yasoua al-Messieh, Ibn Allah, ابن الله (Luke 1:35)
[25] "And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you."
[26] "So eat and drink and be glad. And if you see any human being, say: 'Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Gracious (Allâh) so I shall not speak to any human being this day.'"
[27] Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: "O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariyy (a mighty thing). (Tafsir Al-Tabari)
[22] So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place (i.e. Bethlehem valley about 4-6 miles from Jerusalem).
[23] And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date-palm. She said: "Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!"
[24] Then (the babe 'Iesa (Jesus) or Jibrîl (Gabriel)) cried unto her from below her, saying: "Grieve not: your Lord has provided a water stream under you.
"In the Gospel of Jeremiah you are warned against people who who writes lies."
I assume you mean the Book of the Prophet Jeremiah. Whatever, but yes that is true, we are to be careful against those who write lies, and by the words of your own mouth, we are to judge lies by the books of the prophets (and later the words of Jesus and his apostles)By this central reference point I thereby have to judge the Koran and Mohammed by THAT book,that is the Holy Bible. Conclusion: the Koran falls short.
" By this central reference point I thereby have to judge the Koran and Mohammed by THAT book,that is the Holy Bible. Conclusion: the Koran falls short."
Why ?? Because it doesn't share the same opinion of the bible?? Thank God for that, since there are plenty of unfulfilled prophecies in it.
Of course there are many unfulfilled prophecies in the Bible, being yet future, for ex the return of the chldren of Israel to the land that the God of Abraham gave them after being dispersed 2000 years.
"For I...the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour...I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth...for I have created him for my glory...
The Bible clearly teaches the final blessing of the nation of Israel, in spite of their past and present unfaithfulness. This flies directly in the face of the Koran. The True God (the God of the Bible) could never do that without denying himself.
"O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me." Is 44:21
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.Isa 45:17
Hmmm... personaly I think this (take it easy, please):
IF MANY OF THE BELIEVERS OR FOLLOWERS OF CHRISTIANITY OR ISLAM ARE SO DESINTAGRATED AND VIOLENT BETWEEN THEM, BOTH BOOKS CANNOT BE THE WORD OF GOD. Those books should INSPIRE to his followers to preach without hipocresy and terror.
Such a resoning does not hold up. A child's disobedience to his father's instruction does not annul it. A soldier's insubordination to his superior's command does not invalidate it. Man's disobedience does not abrogate God's Word, it just proves that he is in his nature, as God Word says, a rebel at heart.
The truth lies rather in the fact that Satan seeks to confuse, divide and destroy in regard to the truth, as Jesus said in John 10.
I have a better idea: YOU AND THE PACIFIC MUSLIMS FACE THE FANATIC MUSLIMS TERRORISTS. FACE THEM AND TEACH THE TRUE "PACIFIC" QRAN. SERIOUSLY, WE ARE TIRED OF DANGEROUS AND CRAZY FANATICS.
Both books have their beautiful parts, but many of their followers dont care too much about of the perception of their God in the people... wich is probably THE SAME GOD.
Probably is not good enough. I can tell you up front, they are not.
The fact that the world has always had its lot of ever increasing crazy fanatics as you say, is another evidence of the true teachings of Jesus Christ as to the latter times.
The Bible is God's word. Only Satan goes against the Holy Scriptures. Only those with the Holy Spirit say Jesus is Lord. The Quran is the Curse book handed down from Satan for the people to reject the Lord. The False Prophet Muhummed leads to the fire and all of his followers are there! You cannot make it to the Kingdom without making it right with the king:)
Two things happened in Iraq last week. A US soldier shot a discarded copy of the Qur'an, and al-Qaeda strapped explosives to an 8-year-old girl, killing more Iraqis in the name of Allah. Only one of these acts enraged Muslims.
THE GOD OF ISRAEL IS A PERSONAL GOD WHO IS KNOWN AND LOVED BY MILLIONS. The Psalms give good evidence of this. The very covenant name of God, YAHWEH, describes the God who enters into personal relationships (covenants) with individuals and with groups.
Muhammad's VERSION of Allah is a very different kind of god.
What do you mean what makes me blind? I'm VERY aware of the great DECEPTION of Muhammad through Islam and the Qur'an. For more than 2600 years PRIOR to Muhammad, ALL the prophets and great men of god were in complete accord with the word of God.
Only Muhammad, a self-proclaimed prophet, just like the prophets prophesied would come AFTER Jesus, completely changed the history of the bible and the plan of salvation for ALL of the peoples of the Earth.
Finally, in 632, Muhammad delivers his last sermon, later falls ill, and dies in the presence of his favorite wife, Aisha, and her father, Abu-Bakr. He was buried in Medina in his own house. His father in law, Abu-Bakr, becomes Caliph, the religious leader of Islam. From there on, Islam went into many internal struggles. Muhammad had left no plans for successors.
Muslims also started at that time, conquering the world for Allah as ordered by Allah in the Qur'an.
From there, Muhammad's movement gained further momentum. In 631 two tribes joined Muhammad. They were the Hijaz and Najd. From this time on, many battles ensured. In 625 there was the Battle of Uhud. In 627, the Battle of the Trench. In 628 Muhammad signs a treaty with the Quraish. There is the Battle of Hunsin. In 630 Muhammad had conquered Mecca and he destroys all the idols in Mecca, and assigns Allah Hubal, the Moon god, the supreme god over all other god's.
IF you know that much about Islam what makes you blind then? Arab people aren't the best, no one is!! it is all based on how much faith would you react toward the one who never die...
In the fifth year of the Hegira, the Quraish tried to destroy the Muslims but failed. By then the Muslims were too strong so the Quraish never again tried to defeat them.
Muhammad then set his sights on Mecca. At one point in 628, Muhammad took 10,000 men and entered Mecca unchallenged. The leader of the Quraish converted to Islam. The Hadith report Muhammad as saying that if the Quraish had not converted, he would have slain them all.
After two years in Medina, the Muslims were not fairing too well financially and that, combined with persecution, prompted a "revelation" to come to Muhammad permitting him to raid passing caravans. This he did and the Muslim financial problems were solved. Soon afterward, there was then a significant battle at Badr where Muhammad, with 350 men, defeated an army of 1,000 men. This boost gave confidence to the Muslims, encouraged more converts, and made the Quraish even more uneasy.
The KJV and NAS attempt to take the underlying Hebrew and Greek words in the extant manuscripts and translate them into the CLOSEST CORRESPONDING ENGLISH WORDS as possible (or WORD FOR WORD), while the NIV and NLT attempted to take THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT that was being presented in Greek and Hebrew and then express that thought in English (or THOUGHT FOR THOUGHT).
Many of the other translations attempt to "MEET IN THE MIDDLE" between those two methods. PARAPHRASES such as THE MESSAGE or THE LIVING BIBLE can be used to gain a DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE on the MEANING of a verse, BUT THEY SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A PRIMARY BIBLE TRANSLATION.
Gradually, however, the Jews began to disapprove of him and his movement. Muhammad confronted them and told them THEY HAD MISREAD the Scriptures for more than 2600 years!
This estranged the Jews in the region and finally one day while praying, he suddenly changed direction and faced Mecca. He said the Ka'aba, in Mecca, was the true place of worship since it was built by Abraham (for which no FACTUAL evidence exists). Since then to this day, all Muslims are to face Mecca when praying.
i agree with you that if there were no Christains and Jews in that time of prophet Mohammed's period. it wouldn't go further, because, it would be a new idea that no one would beleive in it what so ever. Historically, Ibrahim barely convinced his people.
But Abraham was NOT ordered by God to convince ANYONE else! He was only ordered to take his family with him. And most surely, not everyone in his family decided to follow him.
In Medina, he preached about Allah and monotheism and urged all people to return to the true faith of Abraham. At that time in Medina, Muhammad would pray facing Jerusalem, as did the Jews who were very populous in that city. He preached about repentance, one God, and forgiveness of sins. His first sermon in Medina was on a Friday. That is why Islamic congregational worship occurs on Fridays instead of Saturdays, like Jews practiced.
So we see that Muhammad changed God's word early on.
Well, i read king James version, new american standard bible, Romans bible that called the international, an arabian version from Egypt, and the old testment. i don't think it would be an approprate that if you mix our conversation with cultural differences, because, religion was not based on culture. GOD created the human beings in different regions with werid aspects of customs to commuincate with each other, the best is whoever worships God right.
You don't know the difference between versions and translations.
BUT, Even if there were BILLIONS of Bible "versions" as you say (which is NOT true), we STILL have THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of manuscripts and fragments of manuscripts written in Hebrew Aramaic and Greek, where we can find the answer to any questions.
Islam provides ONLY ONE prime source of information on Muhammad and the formation of Islam written within TWO CENTURIES of the time he lived and Islam conceived.
((Stir not thy tongue herewith to hasten it,Lo! upon Us (resteth) the putting together thereof and the reading thereof,And when We read it, follow thou the reading)
He became a muslim and he said his famous word that was a muslim is a good christain. and who told you that Najashi was betrayed by Prophet Mohammed? why would he convert to islam if he was betrayed? When Prophet Mohammed was reiceving the Quran, he was telling people immidately to write it down. then at that moment the phrase of Quran came and said
During Muhammad's time, Mecca was the cultural and religious center of Arabia. The area had no central government and was full semi-warring tribes with numerous, competing, polytheistic religions.
At the heart of Mecca was the Ka'aba shrine containing hundreds of idols, and known as the House of Allah.
ALLAH WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE SUPREME DEITY, but was worshiped along with OTHER deities.
It is THAT SAME ALLAH, that Muhammad applied the concept of monotheism he learned from the Jews and Christians.
History tells us that when he was 12, he accompanied his uncle on a trading caravan to Syria. His encounters with Jews and Christians seems to be reflected in the Qur'an in passages that refer to "The People of the Book" (3:64, 71, 187; 5:59).
The term "People of the Book" is a reference to Jews and Christians who had received God's word through the prophets BEFORE Muhammad.
Muhammad was born to his mother Amina, into the Quraish, the then ruling tribe of Mecca. Up to the age of eight, he was raised by his grandfather Abdul Muttalib because Abdallah, his father, died in Yathrib a few weeks before Muhammad was born. Amina, his mother, died when he was six. After the death of his grandfather, his uncle Abu Talib then assumed responsibility for raising Muhammad.
Ok Mohammed was born and never saw his father, a women from the desert came to Mecca to worship those fake GODS who used to be standing around the city, then she heard that there is a baby who was born and never feeded and they were looking for a women who can feed him by female milk. then she took him out to the desert. the house that Mohammed came out from were worshiping those fake GODS and never beleive in an Ibrahmic religion. King Najashi named his son Mohammed, years laster,
The evidance is so easy to tell, when two churchs are located in the same street and each of them has its own rule of christanity, when two churchs are located in one area and each of them has its own bible that is copletley different than the other, then you tell yourself please GOD guide me, which one i follow. Furtheremore, i'm 20 years old and i have read 5 different bibles, i wonder how many it would be when i reach the age 30..
Fred is the lettuce god. I like lettuce on everything. Because its crunchy. but beware of cheese. it wilts lettuce.
ChildePC 1 year ago
There is only 1 inescapable truth. There is no evidence for god. No devine fingerprint that is present in modern day. NO PROPHETS, NO MIRACLES, NO HEALINGS, NO RESURRECTIONS, NO ANGELS NO DEVILS NOTHING THAT ENCHANTS ITSELF WITH THE OLD OR NEW TESTAMENT. UNLESS YOUR MORMON WHICH IS A CULT
ChildePC 1 year ago
@ChildePC
We either have a natural or supernatural worldview, an origin biais or a priori if you will, that affects our way of seeing life, events et even evidence. We evidently have opposing worldviews.
GraceAbondante 1 year ago
No we may have similar world views but our spiritual views are different. I have a campbellian view. Spirituality is something all humans share, but disagree because event either don't allow it or its seen with a sore eye. I would always be mistrusted around christians because of my past. whether I brought up paganism or astrology or new age or catholism or mormonism. You would call me a cultist no matter what so I follow fred
ChildePC 1 year ago
@ChildePC
What makes you think God doesnt exist?
You are as sure as a person who believes in God reason being
, a world with God is as logistic as a world without God.
There is nothing I can say to convince you of anything, only you yourself can find the truth.
Mrsmarthamcgregor 1 year ago
@Mrsmarthamcgregor, Being convinced of a truth use to be within the realm of the holy spirit for me. Unfortunately, When I asked God, if I should marry a certain girl, I was lied to by that self same spirit. This is why I believe there is no God. By objective reasoning the spirit cannot lie but it did.
ChildePC 1 year ago
Neither the bible nor the koran is correct. JOIN THE CULT OF FRED.
ChildePC 1 year ago
@ChildePC
Relativism right? Well, if that's the case, that IS pretty shaky ground my friend. Relativism is self-defeating from the start.
I recommend a book by Lee Strobel called The Case for a Creator
Here's a quote from him:
"If Darwinism is true, then there are five inescapable conclusions: there's no evidence for God, there's no life after death, there's no absolute foundation for right and wrong, there's no ultimate meaning for life, and people don't really have free will."
GraceAbondante 1 year ago
5 inescapable conclusions? I can name religions and governments that define alternatives to christian beliefs as you out lined. So for a moment Ill take your second one. life after death, astrology and budhism have no Gods and all suggest there is a new life after death. that bring you to 4. george carlins dismantling of the 10 commandments destroys the need for ultimate right an wrong of the big 10. Thats 3. There is no meaning to life all christian agree on that 2 left. Free will, since when
ChildePC 1 year ago
lmao the people here here insult ether the quran or the bible ether way if ones from Christ insulting quran hes also insulting his bible there books from god but which one has not been tampered with by man that is the quran witch has been preserved in its original form the quran witch does not have fualts the quran !
mustachab 1 year ago
@mustachab
It's not a question of insulting the Koran for the sake of insulting. It's more a question of proclaiming the TRUTH. The truth will always offend those who seek to justify sin or false doctrine.
Jesus said "I am the truth"
He also said that the Word of God of truth.
GraceAbondante 1 year ago
i`d just lyk 2 say ..you`ve missed out sum bits m8 ...lyk tha holy ghost do you actually kno wht tht means its jus been intrepretated wrong just as you have in this video ...u dnt kno tha full meaning of it ..go bk and read tha king james version of tha bible PROPERLY and try to understand it PROPERLY
wizardballx14 2 years ago
en ce qui concerne la foi et la haine c'est a ElAkhiraTV que je parlais !
versus517 2 years ago
In other words the quran was written by a simple caravan thief. The truth hurts doesn't it.
Dhimmicrats 2 years ago 6
et pour un croyant je te trouve bien fermé aux autres textes religieux " sa se passera dans l'au dela " qui est tu pour juger ? Dieu? excuse moi seigneur je m'anoblie devant ton savoir !
versus517 2 years ago
Je n'entretiens pas de haine pour qui que se soit. Au contraire, c'est pas amour pour mon Sauveur Jésus Christ que je parle de Lui à tous, pas justes au musulmans, pour qu'ils se repentent et croient, parce c'est là ce que mon Seigneur nous a dit de faire, jusqu'à son retour. Chacun est libre de rejeter le don de Dieu en Jésus Christ, mais on est pas libre des conséquences !
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
pourquoi tant de haine? je ne sais pas pour grace abondance mais moi je ne contredit pas le coran ni ses preuves scientifiques je le prend tel kel et le considère au même titre que la bible ou la thorah comme un livre saint divin pourquoi tant d'acharnement a essayer de démonter quelque chose qui nous dépasse car il est au rang du divin ta foi n'est elle pas assez forte pour que tu ten contente ? et au passage Luc n'est pas un apotre mais un disciple grosse différence !
versus517 2 years ago
Je n'ai jamais dit que Luc était un apôtre, mais ça ne change rien puisqu'il a authentifier son récit par des témoins occulaires. Puis, de toute façon, nous ne croyez ni à Mathieu ni à Jean. Vous avez des excuses pour douter sur tout.
Satan dit à Ève :"Dieu a-t-il réellement dit cela?"
Sa tactique est encore très en vogue chez vous.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
pourquoi Mathieu ne pourrait il pas raconté a la troisième personne sa rencontre avec Jesus ? Il ne se met pas au niveau du prophète car ce n'est pas lui le personnage le plus important de l'evangile mais bien Jesus
versus517 2 years ago
puis ils se sont mis a l'ecrire ,de plus la version terminée du Coran a été remodifié pour l'ortographe (dc possibilité d'erreur par rapport a la vraie version ) , puis le calife Osman a fait détruire tous textes anciens pour en donner une version définitive dc celui a pu etre modifié a son tour
versus517 2 years ago
les livres sacré ont tous été réecrit de la main de l'homme .ex: la révélation du Coran a duré plus de 20 ans et au départ Mahomet faisait apprendre par coeur les versets a ses compagnons .
versus517 2 years ago
Apprendre par coeur un texte n'est pas une preuve de la révélation divine. Les gens apprennent dans toutes les langues de longues poésies. Ça ne rend pas les poèmes divins pour autant.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
Matthieu et Jean étaient des disciples car ils ont été des temoins directs de la prédication de Jésus , ils l'ont connus , cotoyés et suivis lors de ses voyages afin de transmettre le message divin au peuple .les 4 evangiles se completent et non qu'un but retransmettre les paroles de Jesus .Jean 20.21 : Jesus leur dit : la paix soit avec vous ! comme Dieu m'a envoyé , moi aussi je vous envoie .
versus517 2 years ago
Matthieu disciple ? regarde ce qu'il a soit disant écrit :
Mt.Ch9v9 : 9 Et de là, en passant, Jésus vit un homme, nommé Matthieu, assis au bureau du fisc, et il lui
dit : " Suis-moi. " Il se leva et le suivit.
qui parle ?
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Le genre littéraire des auteurs qui emploient la 3 personne est très employé à travers l'histoire. Renseignez-vous.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
regarde l'évangile de jean prologue V15
Jean lui rend témoignage, et s'écrie en ces termes: "Voici celui dont je disais: Celui qui vient après moi, est passé devant moi, parce qu'il était avant moi."
si c'est jean qui écrit l'évangile pourquoi ne dit-il pas JE ???? c'est une autre personne qui parle a la place de jean !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Tu mélanges Jean l'apôtre et le prophète Jean le Baptiste. Ce sont deux personnes différentes.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
ISLAM THE TRUTH
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Jesus said: "I am the Truth" Jn 14:6
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
le coran aussi dit que jésus est la vérité, mais le jésus dont vous parlez ! aucun musulman ne doute du message véridique de jésus, maus votre bible contradictoire n'est pas celle de dieu
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Facile à dire, pas facile à prouver, cher ami. Votre raisonnement est circulaire et s'annule de lui-même. Vous avancez des accusations sans fondement. Qui a changé la Bible alors? quand? comment? où? en quelle année? Comment changer des milliers de manuscrits dispersés dans le monde en même temps, surtout à cette époque? et les mêmes versets?
Tant et aussi longtemps que vous n'aurez pas de réponses claires à ces questions, je ne peux prendre vos accusations au sérieux.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
C'est quoi ces questions qui servent à rien ? qui a quel moment ? la question c'est d'analyser le livre, et de voir si l'homme la changer ou pas, car dieu est parfait il ne peut se contredir, or dans les évangiles il y'a une tonne de contradictions, normalement il y'a un seul livre c'est ecrit dans le coran et l'évangile, qu'il y'a qu'un sel évangile, mais vous en aavez plein
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Ce sont des querstions tut à fait légitmie face aux accusations que le Coran porte contre la Bible. Des questions auxquelles vous n'avez pas de réponses.
Votre seul subterfuge est de nier la Bible, nier Moïse, nier les prophètes, nier Jésus Christ, nier ses apôtres.
Votre foi est un grand reniement !
Mais la vérité ne change pas. Personne peut la changer.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
c'est pas en inventant des choses qu'on arrive a régler un problème, le coran confirme tout les prophètes, l'évangile etc mais vous ne vous rendez pas compte que la bible est contradictoire ? et que le coran ne l'ai pas ? et qui êtes vous pour juger ma foi ? est-ce la bible qui vous le permet ?
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
"qui êtes vous pour juger ma foi ? est-ce la bible qui vous le permet ?"
Voilà cher ami, vous avez tout compris !
Il est évident que si je porte un jugement sur ta foi ou sur le Coran, ou sur tout autre chose, que soit le bouddhisme ou l'évolution darwinienne, c'est selon la Parole de Dieu, qui révèle sa volonté poutr TOUS les hommes de toute race de toute religion, musulamans inclus. La Bible nous met tous au même niveau de pécheurs pour qui Christ est mort.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
ah ba voila enfin vous dites la vérité ! mais savez vous a moin que vous baser votre foi sur un livre totalement contradictoire ? La bible a été modifiée par les hommes! ce ne sont pas les apôtres qui ont écrits les évangiles !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
J'ai placé ma foi sur les promesses de Dieu contenues dans la Bible et Dieu a toujours gardé ses promesses. Dieu n'est pas un homme pour mentir. Dieu garde ses promesses, mon ami. Je les ai éprouvées maintes et maintes fois. Vos arguments contre la Bible sont vains et inutiles. Vous perdez votre temps. Dieu aura toujours le dernier sur les paroles des hommes.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
ex : L'évangile de Matthieu est sensé avoir été écrit pas Matthieu l'apôtre de jésus et voila ce qu'il dit :
Mt.Ch9v9 : 9 Et de là, en passant, Jésus vit un homme, nommé Matthieu, assis au bureau du fisc, et il lui
dit : " Suis-moi. " Il se leva et le suivit.
n'est-ce pas flagrant ?
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Tout à fait cher ami. Es-t-il obligé d'écrire à la première personne ??
Mais au lieu de chercher des poux, posez-vous la question si vous avez fait de même ! Levez-vous ElAkhiraTV et suivez Jésus comme Mathieu l'a fait !!
"Venez à moi" à dit Jésus.
Ces paroles valent pour ElAkhiraTV aussi.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
lol vous êtes marrant, ce verser vous démontrer que c'est pas Matthieu qui a écrit cet évangile, et un autre verset chez luc qui explique qu'il était pas témoin, et marc ne l'a jamais vu de sa vie ! c'est la raison pour la quelle la bible et trufée de contradiction, car elle vient de l'homme ! tandis que le coran ! il est parfait sans contradictions !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Luc et Marc ont fait vérifier leur texte auprès de témoins occulaires. Luc le dit expressément et Marc était connu de Pierre. Elle sont donc aussi fidèles que Mathieu et Jean. Mais de toute façon, vous ne croyez ni Mathieu ni Jean. Pour vous ce sont des faux témoins, des menteurs. Votre foi vous oblige à croire que tous les prohètes sont des menteurs, ainsi que Jésus Christ ! Ce n'est pas une foi très attirante. La Bible demeure le Livre de Dieu que vous rejeté.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
ma foi m'oblige a croire à tout les prophètes ! et c'est ecrit dans le coran ! et marc luc paul ne sont pas des prophètes ! les évangiles pour la plupart sont attribué a des gens qui ne les ont pas écrit ! ce sont des livres anonymes !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Tu DIS que tu croies aux prophètes, mais c'est une illusion, parce que le Coran CONTREDIT les prophètes. Cela n'est pas difficile à prouver. Mais tu refuses de croire. Tu te fais à croire que tu es dans la vérité.
"Telle voie paraît droite à un homme, Mais son issue, cest la voie de la mort." Proverbes de Salomon 16:25
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
Vous croyez que tout ce que vous dites est la vérité, le monde entier à tors mais vous vous avez raison ? qu'est-ce que cette façon d'être ? l'évangile a été décendu par Allah, les hommes ont modifié le livre d'Allah, du coup ca n'est plus le même livre, donc votre livre humain contredit notre livre divin ! et y'a des preuves ! dans le coran c'est écrit l'évavngile et non pas les évangiles comme vous en avez plusieur ! et jésus a envoyé les disciple prêché l'évangile !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Pas ce que je dis, mais ce que la Bible dit.Oui, je crois que la Bible dit la vérité. Je juge selon ce qu'elle dit. J'en ai éprouvé maintes et maintes fois ses promesses et ses vérités. Vous, vous dites que les hommes ont modifié la Bible. C'est évident que votre prophète deevait vous faire avaler cette pillule, s'il voulait s'établir comme prophète. Mais c'est un élément qui joue contre Mahomet, et vous.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
si seulement il y'avait que le prophète Muhammad pbsl qui dit que la bible a été modifiée, mais les les historiens du monde entier le disent alors u'ils ne sont pas musulmans ! ainsi que les plus grand théologiens ! vous faites vos vidéo car beaucoup de chrétiens ouvrent les yeux et deviennent musulmans ! cela vous embête !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
evidemment que la foi oblige a croire a tous les prophetes sinon cela veut dire que nous nous eloignons de dieu cependant jesus a demandé a Matthieu , Marc, Luc et Jean de transmettre le message divin au monde . ce ne sont pas de prophetes mais au même titre que la foi chrétienne peut se reposer sur des livres non écrits par Jesus , l'Islam a également une partie de sa croyance sur les hadiths qui non pas tous été rapporté par Mahommet
versus517 2 years ago
sauf que l'évangile qui est sensé être la parole de dieu transmise à jésus directement, est en faite un assemblement de texte que jésus n'a jamais vu ou lu ou dicté ! jean paul luc ne sont pas des disciple c'est pas du à s'en rendre compte ! et vous avez plusieur évangile, mais en vérité il n'y y'en avait q'un seul, celui que dieu a révélé à jésus ! or ceux que vous avez n'ont rien avoir avec L'EVANGILE de dieu !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
"jean paul luc ne sont pas des disciple "
Vous allez bien bas dans votre désinformation !
Mais il y avait des gens comme vous même au temps des apôtres !
"quelques-uns sétant écartés, se sont détournés à un vain babil, voulant être docteurs de la loi, nentendant ni ce quils disent, ni ce sur quoi ils insistent." 1 Tim.1:6-7
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
ah bon ?
luc 1 : 2 : Selon que nous les ont transmises ceux qui dès le commencement les ont vues eux-mêmes, et qui ont été les ministres de la Parole;
il dit clairement qu'il n'a rien vu du tout ! c'est un homme qui a fait des recherche sur jésus rien de plus !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
On dirait un enfant naîf qui veux à tout prix croire en sa bible même si elle contredit l'histoire la science et la logique ! le Coran parle de vous tous de moi de chaque personne sur terre ! l'évangile que vous avez n'est pas celui de jésus, je me fou que vous me croyiez ou non, sa se passera dans l'au dela...
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
super ! vous avez bien ésquivier le verset de luc ou il dit qu'il n'est i âpotre ni rien du tout !
ElAkhiraTV 2 years ago
Another contradiction between the Bible and the Koran, is that the God of the Bible always swears by himself as Heb 6.13 says: "For when God made promise to Abraham, since he could swear by none greater, he sware by himself"
In the Koran, god swears by more than 20 different things like the winds, the moon, the stars, the redness of the sunset, by angles, a mountain, by a city, the night, the fig, the olive, the time, etc !!
The god of the Koran is thus inferior to creation.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
Jesus Christ is far from being gone my friend. He is at God's right hand and has received all judgment from Him. You will stand before Him one day and have to give account of all your deeds and all your hard words against Him.
Repent and believe the Gospel my friend before it's too late, as Jesus said in Mark 1:15
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
You are in a great confusion friend. You have no idea of what you are saying. First, what I said of Deedat is that you are putting your trust in a man, in his words. For you whatever deedat says is the truth, without verifying yourself in the Bible. You oinly repeat what HE said. Have you ever read the Bible for yourself ?
You should.
Also NEVER NEVER NEVER has any intelligent Christian believed the BLASPHEMY you just said, that I would be ashamed even of writing !!
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
Oh, so you're a Deedatist, a follower of Deedat, a man who is a sinner like you and me?
Sorry, good try, but I will continue to be follower of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, the Messiah, Savior and Lord of lords. Deedat is dead, Christ lives for ever more !!!
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
@crazy4jesus63 :Bring me evidence from the Old Testament or New Testament that Jesus says "I am your LORD worship me" in HIS OWN WORDS.
avoeloos 2 years ago
God speaks... we are to listen to ALL his words. If you pick and choose or reject his words according to your own fancy, then your are limiting yourself and God's revelation.
You can't play Russian Roulette or Koran Roulette with the Bible.
Jesus said in no uncertain terms, although not YOUR terms (why should he?) words that identify him and puts him on an equal footing with God. You can reject or worship. Accept and be free, reject and die in your sins.
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
We also believe in Jesus (Isa) but not that he is God..bcuz He never Said to anybody in his own words..I am your Lord ..worship me.
Quran:
Al-Baqara (The Cow)
# 2:136 Say : "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us, and what has been revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the (12) tribes, and in (The books) given to Moses and Jesus, and (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
avoeloos 2 years ago
I will when you show me in the bible that God said that a prophet ( NOT A SPIRIT) would come after Jesus!
Not only that, where God ( YHWH) says that HE WOULD HAVE AN ISHMALITE PROPHET!
Not only that show me in the Bible where it says the NAME OF GOD is allah and not YHWH ( I AM)
crazy4jesus63 2 years ago
at John 20:28 Thomas praised Jesus after seeing him ressurected saying: "Jesus my Lord, my God." and Jesus did not stop or correct him.
marinecorps29 2 years ago 3
John 5:30"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: & my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will,but the will of the Father which hath sent me" (Jesus can't perform miracles without GOD's help)..so Jesus can never be God.
avoeloos 2 years ago
Jesus the Son of God is also Jesus the Son of Man. The man Christ Jesus is also the eternal Word of God made flesh. He has in his person human and divine attributes. You cannot set up his human attributes as an excuse against his divine attributes, on the basis of human reasoning and philosophies. You can only accept both, bow down and worship in awe and say as Thomas: "My Lord and my God !"
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
John 5:30"I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: & my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will,but the will of the Father which hath sent me" (Jesus can't perform miracles without God's help)
avoeloos 2 years ago
Islam is Satan's religion of doom, Satan's doomed religion and Satan's doom. ( He too will be cast into the lake of fire with his beast)
crazy4jesus63 2 years ago
good video.
sins4givenmain 2 years ago
Thanks sins4given. To God be all the glory!!
"Controversy for the sake of controversy is sin. Controversy for the sake of the truth, is a divine command." Walter Martin
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
watch?v=rsNz40eyTnY&feature=related
Getadoo 3 years ago
Greetings Getadoo. Could you at least introduce yourself?
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
Even more interesting is that Muslims say that both the OT and NT have been corrupted and completely changed. According to them, Christians cannot quote it as truth because of this "so called corruption." However, Muslims are quick to quote the Bible in proof of their false prophet and religion.
ProphecyChannel 3 years ago
The Quran says that Jesus is only a messenger of God as other prophets, but at the same time calls him the « Messiah » Jesus (4 :171).
If Jesus is only a prophet, he cant be the Messiah; if hes the Messiah, he cant be only a prophet.
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
Thanks for the defence. It is with divine Justice that from the Koran we see Mohammed's filthy acts as a coward, had a child bride ( 9yrs), was a murderer, a thief , a robber amongst other crimes. Hence Jesus prophecy came true that we would know them by their works. In no uncertain terms could Mo be a prophet of any loving God based on his hateful Character. But he was a prophet. Satan's perfect Prophet in fact he boasted that he who sent him loved him more than Jesus. Satan doesn't love Jesus.
crazy4jesus63 2 years ago
"We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wicked one" 1 Jo 5:19
Indeed, Satan is the seducer of all nations. He is a liar and the father of lies. Only Jesus can set sinners free!
GraceAbondante 2 years ago
ricohatore 3 years ago
DIEU qui tue DIEU hahahahahah
soit logique et ouvre tes yeux égaré
jeuneturk90 2 years ago
oui le Vatican l'a confirmé un dialogue est possible mais un dialogue seulemnt
Mais un tel fossé théologique nous sépare des musulmans
Pour ne prendre qu'un exemple, le Credo le Credo est résumé en une prière de tout ce en quoi tout les chrétien croient qu'il soit catholiques, protestants etc...
Il fut rédigé en 380.
ricohatore 3 years ago
[13] O gens ! Nous vous avons créés d'un mâle et d'une femelle, et Nous avons fait de vous des nations et des tribus, pour que vous vous entre-connaissiez. Le plus noble d'entre vous, auprès d'Allah, est le plus pieux. Allah est certes Omniscient et Grand Connaisseur.
Donc laissons notre divergence de coté "dieu jugera entre nous" &
unissons nous sur des choses en commun.
comme combatre la misère la pauvreté, la drogue, la propreté, l'écologie etc.........
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
"Donc laissons notre divergence de coté "
Je suis d'accord qu'il y a plusieurs problèmes commun à tous qu'il faut combattre mais le problème c'est que nos divergences sont trop importantes pour les ignorer. Je ne peux pas mettre de côté l'amour de Dieu et le sacrifice expiatoire de son Fils pour nous sauver (vous y compris) de nos péchés et de l'enfer. Mettre de côté Jésus Christ, c'est faire ce que la majorité du monde fait. Je ne suis plus du monde.
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
14)
Lorsque tu récites le Coran, Nous mettons entre toi-même et ceux qui n'ont pas foi en la vie dernière un rideau couvrant.* Nous mettons sur leur cœur des bâches qui les empêcheront de le comprendre et dans leurs oreilles une surdité. Puis, lorsque tu évoques, (en récitant) le Coran, ton Seigneur dans Son unicité, ils tournent le dos en signe de dissentiment. (Coran, Al-lsrâ'- 17/45-46)
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
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C'est pourquoi, selon les termes mêmes du Coran, un rideau couvrant ou un "voile obscur" se formera entre quiconque a des préjugés et une approche calculée d'un côté et le Coran de l'autre côté. Ce fait est mentionné dans un verset:
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
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II est impossible de comprendre le Coran si on l'approche avec des arrière-pensées et des préjugés. C'est une loi de Dieu. Quelles que soient l'intelligence et la culture de la personne, si elle n'approche pas le Coran avec des intentions sincères, elle ne pourra pas être en mesure de le comprendre ou de l'interpréter correctement. Aussi, elle n'en tirera que de fausses conclusions.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
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C'est pourquoi il lui manque la capacité de raisonner et, comme il ne peut pas raisonner, il ne pourra émettre que des hypothèses déformées et irréfléchies en interprétant les versets coraniques.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
10)
L'homme de foi, sincère et consciencieux peut comprendre et appliquer avec facilité les sujets et les commandements spirituels de base qui sont indiqués dans le Coran. Cependant, le non-croyant, qui n'est pas sincère et qui a des préjugés, même s'il connaît l'arabe et a d'immenses connaissances techniques, voire même s'il est considéré comme expert dans son domaine, il ne pourra pas comprendre correctement le Coran, puisqu'il suit son ego.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
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Y a-t-il en effet plus inique que celui qui, ayant été rappelé des versets de son Seigneur, s'en détourna, oubliant ainsi ce qu'ont commis ses propres mains? Nous avons mis sur leur cœur des bâches qui les empêcheront de le comprendre et dans leurs oreilles une surdité: tu peux bien les appeler à la bonne voie, mais ils ne sauront jamais se guider. (Coran, AI-Kahf- \ 8/57)
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
C'est un miracle du Coran. Un verset qui est très facile à comprendre pour un homme de foi rend perplexe un non-croyant. Ceci nous montre que la compréhension du Coran dépend de la sincérité et des intentions de la personne et que c'est Dieu qui décide si la personne devait recevoir cette compréhension ou non. Ledit aspect est clarifié dans le verset suivant:
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
8)
Ces gens égoïstes prétendent que les versets du Coran, qui sont très clairs, sont contradictoires et embrouillants. Dans nombre de ses passages, le Coran mentionne, à travers des exemples, la confusion affichée par ceux qui le récusent lorsqu'ils se demandent:"Qu'est-ce que Dieu veut faire comprendre par cet exemple?"En effet, exactement comme le Coran nous le dit, à chaque époque les dénégateurs ont admis, directement ou autrement, qu'ils n'ont pas été capables de comprendre ces
exemples.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
7)
Les expressions les plus explicites leur sembleront alors contradictoires. Quelle que soit leur intelligence, leur culture ou leur connaissance du Coran, ils sont en réalité incapables de comprendre son contenu et ce en raison de leur manque de foi en Dieu.
Quand on étudie les allégations faites par les personnes qui s'opposent au Coran, les malentendus et les lacunes de la logique sur laquelle elles se sont basées apparaissent évidents.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
6)
Après qu'un individu accède à la foi, la profondeur de sa foi et de sa prière, ainsi que le niveau de sa connaissance deviendront les facteurs qui lui accorderont l'accès aux complexités et aux mystères du Coran.
Par ailleurs, ceux qui n'ont pas la foi, ou qui ne craignent pas Dieu, ne peuvent pas comprendre le Coran correctement, puisqu'ils ne peuvent que mal interpréter les sujets les plus évidents qu'ils prétendent connaître.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
5)
En fait, à mesure que la foi de l'homme augmente, sa sagesse, sa sincérité et sa crainte de Dieu augmentent à la même cadence et ainsi les points et les mystères les plus
fins du Coran lui deviennent bien compréhensibles. Quand, en effet, une personne qui n'a pas la foi lit le Coran sincèrement et sans arrière-pensée, elle se rend compte que c'est un livre saint et accède ainsi à la foi. Comme les versets de Dieu sont clairs, ils peuvent avoir un effet immédiat sur l'homme.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
4)
Certes, Nous avons modulé dans ce Coran afin qu'ils méditent, mais cela ne fait qu'accentuer leur détournement.(Coran 17/41)
Ce que nous avons dit jusqu'ici indique clairement que seuls ceux qui sont sincères dans leur foi comprendront le Coran correctement. Certes, le Coran a été révélé par Dieu en tant que livre clair, mais seuls ceux des serviteurs de Dieu qui en ont la foi, qui mettent à profit leur raison et qui cherchent à être guidés par le Coran,peuvent facilement le comprendre.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
4) le comprendre facilement et ainsi suivre ses commandements.
Cependant, ceux-là qui suivent leurs ego, qui n'admettent pas absolument la puissance de Dieu et qui ont des doutes au sujet du monde de l'au-delà, ils utiliseront leur logique tordue pour mal interpréter les versets du Coran. Dans le verset suivant, Dieu nous fait part de la nature de ces hommes qui ne cherchent pas à être guidés par le Coran:
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
3)
L'approche, voire la compréhension de ce Livre révélé, est donc à la portée de tout le monde qui s'y dispose. Dieu - exalté soit-ll - dit dans l'un des versets du Coran:
ô gens, il vous est venu une exhortation de votre Seigneur, une guérison de ce qui est dans les poitrines, une lumière et une miséricorde pour ceux qui ont la foi. (Coran, Yûnus- 10/57)
Comme illustré dans ce verset, ceux qui ont la foi en Dieu et qui obéissent à leur conscience peuvent tirer bénéfice du Coran,
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
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Bien plus, ils seront hautement récompensés dans ce monde et dans celui de l'au-delà. Réciproquement, ceux qui approchent le Coran avec hypocrisie et animosité subiront les conséquences de leur action. Ils ne comprendront jamais le Coran, ne bénéficieront point de sa sagesse et perdront dans ce monde et dans l'au-delà. D'autant plus que leur résolution à nuire par tous les moyens à leur portée ne pourra qu'échouer, puisqu'ils ne pourront pas nuire au Coran et ne nuiront donc point à l'Islam
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
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Dieu, Seigneur de tous les univers, qui a le savoir parfait et la puissance indéfectible, fit descendre le Coran en source de miséricorde pour toute l'humanité. Il accorda ainsi Sa bienveillance à toutes les nations du monde. Partant, ceux qui acceptent cette gratification divine avec sincérité et gratitude en tireront avantage. A travers leur foi en ce Livre, ils pourront le comprendre, donc le suivre, et ainsi recevoir la miséricorde qu'il vient diffuser.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
[157] et à cause de leur parole: "Nous avons vraiment tué le Christ, Jésus, fils de Marie, le Messager d'Allah"... Or, ils ne l'ont ni tué ni crucifié; mais ce n'était qu'un faux semblant! Et ceux qui ont discuté sur son sujet sont vraiment dans l'incertitude: ils n'en ont aucune connaissance certaine, ils ne font que suivre des conjectures et ils ne l'ont certainement pas tué,
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
[59] Pour Allah, Jésus est comme Adam qu'Il créa de poussière, puis Il lui dit: "Sois" et il fut.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
Mussies are the most dishonest people on earth,without any honour or dignity, they will swear on the koran and tellyou alie to your face.Its all in the koranic upbringing.Taqiyya (lying)and hudibyia(deception) seems to be part of everyday life.What a f##king way of living.Will mussies progress,hardly.Have been pimps will always be pimps and international basket cases.
klinedo 3 years ago
Ali and Mohammed are pan-handling on the Toronto subway.
Ali drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage-free house, and has a lot of money to spend.
Mohammed only brings in 2 to 3 dollars a day.
Mohammed asks Ali how he can bring home a suitcase full of $10.00 bills everyday.
Ali says,"Mohammed, look at your sign". It say "I have no work, a wife and 6 kids to support".
Then Mohammed looks at Ali's sign.
It reads "I only need another $10.00 to move back to my country"
klinedo 3 years ago
Ce fondamentalisme m'attriste. Rejeter du revers de la main la croyance d'une civilisation en citant des textes poussiéreux. Je suis triste pour nos frères musulmans qui croient en leur Dieu et en leurs écrits avec la même ferveur que vous. L'important au fond n'est-il pas le bien que la religion vous procure ou n'est-ce que la poursuite d'une croisade du genre Holier than you... Aussi documenté que vous l'êtes et versé dans la connaissance d'un vieil écrit, vous ne devriez pas agir ainsi.
Alastor0001 3 years ago
"en citant des textes poussiéreux"
Vous paerlez des paroles des prophètes et de Jésus Christ le Messie, prophéties qui se sont tous accomplies jusqu'à date. La Bible est plus à jour que le journal devant paraître demain.
Jésus a dit, "le ciel et la terre passeront mais mes paroles ne passeront point".
"croisade du genre Holier than you."
Pas du tout. Je suis un pécheur comme vous. La seul différence est que j'ai accepté le don de grâce qui m'étais offert.
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
Yeah but can either God or Allah send us a prophet or even an email about if HD or BluRay is gonna win the hi def war?
rozza2012 3 years ago
"The LORD knows the thoughts of man, That they are futile."
Ps 94:11
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
Haha! God knows that blueray will win!
Alastor0001 3 years ago
elcherinox7,
After the fall of man, God promised a seed, a seed that would "bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel" (Genesis 3:15 ). God was speaking to Satan just after the fall, so it is Satan's head that will be bruised but Satan shall bruise the seed's heel.
Man was created to have fellowship with God and to rule over the earth and have dominion over the earth as God's vice regent...
ichooseanother 3 years ago
...In all of God's creation ONLY MAN was created to have fellowship with God. God would meet with Adam on a regular basis and fellowship with him.
God had COMMANDED Adam not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:16 -17). Then only one chapter later we see Adam and Eve VIOLATING this command. Eve was deceived by the serpent but ADAM DISOBETED GOD INTENTIONALLY...
ichooseanother 3 years ago
...Because of this DISOBEDIENCE, God drove them out of the Garden and protected the tree of life so they could not eat of it and live forever in their disobedience.
The consequence of Adam's sin was that he would DIE SPIRITUALLY, that the Spirit of God within man would die and that man would eventually die physically. This physical condition of spiritual and physical death was passed on to Adam's descendants. Today, man is born spiritually dead and destined to die physically...
ichooseanother 3 years ago
...In Genesis 3:15, God promised a seed, Jesus Christ (Emmanuel- God with us), who would not only PAY THE PRICE OF SIN so that man could again be in fellowship with God, but would provide a new spirit for man and eternal life in fellowship with God.
This promised seed will destroy the works of the devil and provide a way for man to have fellowship with God by giving man a new spirit (Holy Spirit) which we call being "born again" (spiritually)...
ichooseanother 3 years ago
...This SEED will also provide a way for man to receive eternal life with a new INCORRUPTIBLE BODY.
God preserved His promised seed through Abraham and Sarah by allowing them to give birth to a child in their later years. The promised seed is clearly from God and could only be preserved by God. The line of the promised seed continued through Abraham's son, Isaac in Genesis 26, through Jacob in Genesis 28, and through Judah in Genesis 49...
ichooseanother 3 years ago
...Throughout all this preservation of the line of the seed that was promised we see many details about the coming seed. Here are a few:
1. The promised seed will not only be human but divine. Thus a supernatural birth is required and we see this fulfilled in the virgin birth by way of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament...
ichooseanother 3 years ago
...2. The promised seed will be of human birth of the lineage of David, "And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever (2 Samuel 7:16 ).
3. The promised seed would be born of a virgin, "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14 )...
ichooseanother 3 years ago
4. The promised seed must be divine to fulfill Old Testament prophecy because this promised seed was referred to as "the mighty God," "The everlasting Father," "The Prince of Peace, whose goings forth have been from of old, everlasting ."
5. The promised seed was to be born in Bethlehem as in Micah 5:2.
6. The promised seed is identified as Israel 's King who will sit on His father David's throne. See Psalms 2 and 2 Samuel 7:12-16.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
7. The promised seed will be a suffering servant. This can be seen in Isaiah 52:13-53:12 and in Psalms 22.
One should remember that the promised seed will not only be a suffering seed but Jeremiah explains in 23:5 that He will also be a triumphant King . "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth."
ichooseanother 3 years ago
8. We can see these details fulfilled in the New Testament and it is here that the promised seed is manifested in the flesh. The book of Galatians says that the seed is singular, not plural and that the promised seed is Jesus Christ. (Galatians 3:13-16)
Not only is this promised seed identified as Jesus Christ, we can see Him fulfilling the Old Testament details of the promised seed. (Matthew 1:18, Genesis 3:15, John 1:1-2, John 1:10-14, 1 Peter 3:18)
ichooseanother 3 years ago
After the manifestation of the promised seed we see that this good news of promised seed is to be proclaimed. The news that His death, burial and resurrection ACCOMPLISHED MANS RECONCILIATION TO GOD and life eternal with an incorruptible body.
God wants all men to know that salvation has been provided He gave believers what is known as the Great Commission. In this Great Commission it can be seen that THOSE WHO RESPOND to this good news, are to be taught and trained.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
The Great Commission in Matthew 28:19-20 states,
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY GHOST: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
ichooseanother 3 years ago
The ultimate consummation of God's plan is for man to be restored back into fellowship with Himself and ruling over the earth.
This is the primary purpose of the promised seed. When God created man he said, "Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness. Let them rule over the fish in the sea, over the birds in the sky, over the cattle, and over all the earth and every creeping thing on the earth."
ichooseanother 3 years ago
THEREFORE, through the fall of Adam, mankind lost all of this but here in the consummation of God's plan we see this being restored.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
THE PROMISED SEED IS JESUS CHRIST and the good news of the gospel is that GOD HAS PROVIDED HIS PROMISED SEED.
NOTICE THAT, Those of the Old Testament who had faith in the promised seed were saved. Those today who have faith in the promised seed, Jesus Christ, are also saved and receive a new spirit and one day will receive an incorruptible body.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
Apostle Paul said in the book of Galatians 3:26-29,
"For ye are ALL the children of God BY FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have PUT ON CHRIST. There is NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK , there is neither BOND NOR FREE, there is neither MALE NOR FEMALE: for YE ARE ALL ONE IN CHRIST JESUS. And IF YE BE CHRIST'S, THEN ARE YE ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE PROMISE."
ichooseanother 3 years ago
SCRIPTURE SAYS, FIRST COMES DEATH AND THEN JUDGMENT.
CHRISTIANS will be judged at the judgment seat of Christ BY the promised seed, Jesus Christ. UNBELIEVERS will be judged at the Great White Throne judgment mentioned in Revelation by the promised seed.
Then there will be the creation of a new heaven and a new earth. A fresh and new start for a new type of Human being; the living Spirit of God, in an INCORRUPTIBLE AND GLORIFIED BODY! Amen, Halleluyah!!!
AND THE GREAT I AM KNOWS BEST!
ichooseanother 3 years ago
rahmouni75,
You must ADMIT, that version of the story is in the Qur'an, and NOT the Bible.
Being that the books of the Bible were written in some instances, THOUSANDS of years BEFORE Muhammad and Islam, THE BIBLE TESTS AND JUDGES THE QUR'AN.
When the Bible and The Qur'an contradict each other, the Bible must logically be given first place as the older authority as per the Law of Historical Precedent.
Therefore, under scholarly scrutiny, THE QUR'AN IS IN ERROR UNTIL IT PROVES ITSELF.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
your bible was corrupted with writings from priests anp people who claimed to received revelation from allh.the people hwo refused issa (jesus)peace and blessings be upon him added and deleted so many things.
and until now people are taking and adding words into it(it's cold new version)!!??, the quoran is the only revelation to man kind who will be protected until allah(god)will take back all his creations and call us for the day of judjment.
salam
rahmouni75 3 years ago
rahmouni75,
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is NOT what your own prophet and the Qur'an say about Jewish and Christian scriptures.
The Qur'an you have today was the VERSION known as the Uthmanic Codex. You have no original Qur'an in existence , nor manuscript evidence to authenticate it's veracity or authority.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
[32] "And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.
[33] "And Salâm (peace) be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!"
[34] Such is 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (It is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
Anybody who lived in the days of Mohammed in Arabia and who knew superficially the Gospels knew already that God had visited Mary, sent his angel Gabriel to her to announce that she would miraculously conceive by the Holy Spirit ArRab Yasoua al-Messieh, Ibn Allah, ابن الله (Luke 1:35)
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
[28] "O sister (i.e. the like) of Hârûn (Aaron)! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman."
[29] Then she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"
[30] "He ('Iesa (Jesus)) said: Verily I am a slave of Allâh, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"
[31] "And He has made me blessed wheresoever I be, and has enjoined on me Salât (prayer), and Zakât, as long as I live."
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
[25] "And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you."
[26] "So eat and drink and be glad. And if you see any human being, say: 'Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Gracious (Allâh) so I shall not speak to any human being this day.'"
[27] Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: "O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariyy (a mighty thing). (Tafsir Al-Tabari)
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
CORAN: Ch19 (MARIE.
[22] So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place (i.e. Bethlehem valley about 4-6 miles from Jerusalem).
[23] And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date-palm. She said: "Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!"
[24] Then (the babe 'Iesa (Jesus) or Jibrîl (Gabriel)) cried unto her from below her, saying: "Grieve not: your Lord has provided a water stream under you.
FRANCOTUNISIE 3 years ago
revelations is one book one of 66 (if you're protestant)...the "do not add or substract was only refering to this book.
In the Gospel of Jeremiah you are warned against people who who writes lies.
seamr05 3 years ago
"In the Gospel of Jeremiah you are warned against people who who writes lies."
I assume you mean the Book of the Prophet Jeremiah. Whatever, but yes that is true, we are to be careful against those who write lies, and by the words of your own mouth, we are to judge lies by the books of the prophets (and later the words of Jesus and his apostles)By this central reference point I thereby have to judge the Koran and Mohammed by THAT book,that is the Holy Bible. Conclusion: the Koran falls short.
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
" By this central reference point I thereby have to judge the Koran and Mohammed by THAT book,that is the Holy Bible. Conclusion: the Koran falls short."
Why ?? Because it doesn't share the same opinion of the bible?? Thank God for that, since there are plenty of unfulfilled prophecies in it.
seamr05 3 years ago
Of course there are many unfulfilled prophecies in the Bible, being yet future, for ex the return of the chldren of Israel to the land that the God of Abraham gave them after being dispersed 2000 years.
"For I...the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour...I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth...for I have created him for my glory...
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
jesus's words are true...you however didn't convince me of anything...
seamr05 3 years ago
Jeanchild50,
Christian & Jewish martyrs say; "I will die for what I believe".
A Muslim martyr says; "you will die for what I believe"...
Now there IS a little DIFFERENCE there, You know?
ichooseanother 3 years ago
The Bible clearly teaches the final blessing of the nation of Israel, in spite of their past and present unfaithfulness. This flies directly in the face of the Koran. The True God (the God of the Bible) could never do that without denying himself.
"O Israel, thou shalt not be forgotten of me." Is 44:21
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.Isa 45:17
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
Hmmm... personaly I think this (take it easy, please):
IF MANY OF THE BELIEVERS OR FOLLOWERS OF CHRISTIANITY OR ISLAM ARE SO DESINTAGRATED AND VIOLENT BETWEEN THEM, BOTH BOOKS CANNOT BE THE WORD OF GOD. Those books should INSPIRE to his followers to preach without hipocresy and terror.
Jeanchild50 3 years ago
Such a resoning does not hold up. A child's disobedience to his father's instruction does not annul it. A soldier's insubordination to his superior's command does not invalidate it. Man's disobedience does not abrogate God's Word, it just proves that he is in his nature, as God Word says, a rebel at heart.
The truth lies rather in the fact that Satan seeks to confuse, divide and destroy in regard to the truth, as Jesus said in John 10.
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
Jeanchild50,
I suggest you stop reading HUMANISTIC literature.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
I have a better idea: YOU AND THE PACIFIC MUSLIMS FACE THE FANATIC MUSLIMS TERRORISTS. FACE THEM AND TEACH THE TRUE "PACIFIC" QRAN. SERIOUSLY, WE ARE TIRED OF DANGEROUS AND CRAZY FANATICS.
Both books have their beautiful parts, but many of their followers dont care too much about of the perception of their God in the people... wich is probably THE SAME GOD.
Jeanchild50 3 years ago
"wich is probably THE SAME GOD."
Probably is not good enough. I can tell you up front, they are not.
The fact that the world has always had its lot of ever increasing crazy fanatics as you say, is another evidence of the true teachings of Jesus Christ as to the latter times.
GraceAbondante 3 years ago
The Bible is God's word. Only Satan goes against the Holy Scriptures. Only those with the Holy Spirit say Jesus is Lord. The Quran is the Curse book handed down from Satan for the people to reject the Lord. The False Prophet Muhummed leads to the fire and all of his followers are there! You cannot make it to the Kingdom without making it right with the king:)
jspeaker1 3 years ago
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By BangkokPoet:
Two things happened in Iraq last week. A US soldier shot a discarded copy of the Qur'an, and al-Qaeda strapped explosives to an 8-year-old girl, killing more Iraqis in the name of Allah. Only one of these acts enraged Muslims.
DO YOU KNOW ISLAM WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW WHICH?
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
THE GOD OF ISRAEL IS A PERSONAL GOD WHO IS KNOWN AND LOVED BY MILLIONS. The Psalms give good evidence of this. The very covenant name of God, YAHWEH, describes the God who enters into personal relationships (covenants) with individuals and with groups.
Muhammad's VERSION of Allah is a very different kind of god.
ISLAM'S ALLAH IS NOT, AND CANNOT BE FATHER!
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
What do you mean what makes me blind? I'm VERY aware of the great DECEPTION of Muhammad through Islam and the Qur'an. For more than 2600 years PRIOR to Muhammad, ALL the prophets and great men of god were in complete accord with the word of God.
Only Muhammad, a self-proclaimed prophet, just like the prophets prophesied would come AFTER Jesus, completely changed the history of the bible and the plan of salvation for ALL of the peoples of the Earth.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
Finally, in 632, Muhammad delivers his last sermon, later falls ill, and dies in the presence of his favorite wife, Aisha, and her father, Abu-Bakr. He was buried in Medina in his own house. His father in law, Abu-Bakr, becomes Caliph, the religious leader of Islam. From there on, Islam went into many internal struggles. Muhammad had left no plans for successors.
Muslims also started at that time, conquering the world for Allah as ordered by Allah in the Qur'an.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
From there, Muhammad's movement gained further momentum. In 631 two tribes joined Muhammad. They were the Hijaz and Najd. From this time on, many battles ensured. In 625 there was the Battle of Uhud. In 627, the Battle of the Trench. In 628 Muhammad signs a treaty with the Quraish. There is the Battle of Hunsin. In 630 Muhammad had conquered Mecca and he destroys all the idols in Mecca, and assigns Allah Hubal, the Moon god, the supreme god over all other god's.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
IF you know that much about Islam what makes you blind then? Arab people aren't the best, no one is!! it is all based on how much faith would you react toward the one who never die...
kreem0007 3 years ago
kreem,
In the fifth year of the Hegira, the Quraish tried to destroy the Muslims but failed. By then the Muslims were too strong so the Quraish never again tried to defeat them.
Muhammad then set his sights on Mecca. At one point in 628, Muhammad took 10,000 men and entered Mecca unchallenged. The leader of the Quraish converted to Islam. The Hadith report Muhammad as saying that if the Quraish had not converted, he would have slain them all.
No compulsion in religion?
ichooseanother 3 years ago
which hadith?
elcherinox7 3 years ago
kreem,
After two years in Medina, the Muslims were not fairing too well financially and that, combined with persecution, prompted a "revelation" to come to Muhammad permitting him to raid passing caravans. This he did and the Muslim financial problems were solved. Soon afterward, there was then a significant battle at Badr where Muhammad, with 350 men, defeated an army of 1,000 men. This boost gave confidence to the Muslims, encouraged more converts, and made the Quraish even more uneasy.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
only caravans of quraish.
elcherinox7 3 years ago
kreem,
The KJV and NAS attempt to take the underlying Hebrew and Greek words in the extant manuscripts and translate them into the CLOSEST CORRESPONDING ENGLISH WORDS as possible (or WORD FOR WORD), while the NIV and NLT attempted to take THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT that was being presented in Greek and Hebrew and then express that thought in English (or THOUGHT FOR THOUGHT).
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
Many of the other translations attempt to "MEET IN THE MIDDLE" between those two methods. PARAPHRASES such as THE MESSAGE or THE LIVING BIBLE can be used to gain a DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE on the MEANING of a verse, BUT THEY SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A PRIMARY BIBLE TRANSLATION.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
Gradually, however, the Jews began to disapprove of him and his movement. Muhammad confronted them and told them THEY HAD MISREAD the Scriptures for more than 2600 years!
This estranged the Jews in the region and finally one day while praying, he suddenly changed direction and faced Mecca. He said the Ka'aba, in Mecca, was the true place of worship since it was built by Abraham (for which no FACTUAL evidence exists). Since then to this day, all Muslims are to face Mecca when praying.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
i agree with you that if there were no Christains and Jews in that time of prophet Mohammed's period. it wouldn't go further, because, it would be a new idea that no one would beleive in it what so ever. Historically, Ibrahim barely convinced his people.
kreem0007 3 years ago
kreem,
But Abraham was NOT ordered by God to convince ANYONE else! He was only ordered to take his family with him. And most surely, not everyone in his family decided to follow him.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
In Medina, he preached about Allah and monotheism and urged all people to return to the true faith of Abraham. At that time in Medina, Muhammad would pray facing Jerusalem, as did the Jews who were very populous in that city. He preached about repentance, one God, and forgiveness of sins. His first sermon in Medina was on a Friday. That is why Islamic congregational worship occurs on Fridays instead of Saturdays, like Jews practiced.
So we see that Muhammad changed God's word early on.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
please can you prove that Muhammed(pbuh)changed Gods word?
elcherinox7 3 years ago
Well, i read king James version, new american standard bible, Romans bible that called the international, an arabian version from Egypt, and the old testment. i don't think it would be an approprate that if you mix our conversation with cultural differences, because, religion was not based on culture. GOD created the human beings in different regions with werid aspects of customs to commuincate with each other, the best is whoever worships God right.
kreem0007 3 years ago
how many bible versions do the christians have?
are they all the same?if not why?
elcherinox7 3 years ago
elcherinox7,
You don't know the difference between versions and translations.
BUT, Even if there were BILLIONS of Bible "versions" as you say (which is NOT true), we STILL have THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of manuscripts and fragments of manuscripts written in Hebrew Aramaic and Greek, where we can find the answer to any questions.
Islam provides ONLY ONE prime source of information on Muhammad and the formation of Islam written within TWO CENTURIES of the time he lived and Islam conceived.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
((Stir not thy tongue herewith to hasten it,Lo! upon Us (resteth) the putting together thereof and the reading thereof,And when We read it, follow thou the reading)
kreem0007 3 years ago
He became a muslim and he said his famous word that was a muslim is a good christain. and who told you that Najashi was betrayed by Prophet Mohammed? why would he convert to islam if he was betrayed? When Prophet Mohammed was reiceving the Quran, he was telling people immidately to write it down. then at that moment the phrase of Quran came and said
kreem0007 3 years ago
kreem,
During Muhammad's time, Mecca was the cultural and religious center of Arabia. The area had no central government and was full semi-warring tribes with numerous, competing, polytheistic religions.
At the heart of Mecca was the Ka'aba shrine containing hundreds of idols, and known as the House of Allah.
ALLAH WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE SUPREME DEITY, but was worshiped along with OTHER deities.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
It is THAT SAME ALLAH, that Muhammad applied the concept of monotheism he learned from the Jews and Christians.
History tells us that when he was 12, he accompanied his uncle on a trading caravan to Syria. His encounters with Jews and Christians seems to be reflected in the Qur'an in passages that refer to "The People of the Book" (3:64, 71, 187; 5:59).
The term "People of the Book" is a reference to Jews and Christians who had received God's word through the prophets BEFORE Muhammad.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
kreem,
Muhammad was born to his mother Amina, into the Quraish, the then ruling tribe of Mecca. Up to the age of eight, he was raised by his grandfather Abdul Muttalib because Abdallah, his father, died in Yathrib a few weeks before Muhammad was born. Amina, his mother, died when he was six. After the death of his grandfather, his uncle Abu Talib then assumed responsibility for raising Muhammad.
That's from Muhammad's official biography.
ichooseanother 3 years ago
Ok Mohammed was born and never saw his father, a women from the desert came to Mecca to worship those fake GODS who used to be standing around the city, then she heard that there is a baby who was born and never feeded and they were looking for a women who can feed him by female milk. then she took him out to the desert. the house that Mohammed came out from were worshiping those fake GODS and never beleive in an Ibrahmic religion. King Najashi named his son Mohammed, years laster,
kreem0007 3 years ago
The evidance is so easy to tell, when two churchs are located in the same street and each of them has its own rule of christanity, when two churchs are located in one area and each of them has its own bible that is copletley different than the other, then you tell yourself please GOD guide me, which one i follow. Furtheremore, i'm 20 years old and i have read 5 different bibles, i wonder how many it would be when i reach the age 30..
kreem0007 3 years ago