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  • Cenk, you said "no one has proposed national health care." Perhaps you have been living in a cave? Obama has repeatedly stated that his ultimate goal is the "Single Payer Government health care system."

    Obama has also lied publicly (posted to YouTube) in his statement that his plan will "make health care premiums go down by 3000%" (I'm thinking that he failed basic math).

    The bottom line is that the people have been lied to, and they are justifieably angry.

  • Cenk: "Last gasp of the angry white man"???

    This is a debate on health care, where did race come into it?

    Oh, it came from the Cenk.

  • @ACRScout57 no one proposed it, so race is what it is about. It seems your just as clueless as the old red skinned farts complaining in the video

  • OUR GOVERNMENT EXISTS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION! We deserve to know and have a say in all decisions mad. We must protect our constitutional rights our fornding fathers gave us. . . PEACE OUT!!!

  • No National Healthcare?

    If we had a public option for healthcare in the US I would take it in a heartbeat, instead I have to play a gambling game with overpriced insurance companies whose motivation is maximizing their own profits rather than my health

  • Chant loudly. That is America, 2011. Good luck with that. I like @eajinabi comment.

  • Government is bad!! More power to corporations whos incentive is to make money and not create jobs. Please allow corporations to outsource every job overseas. Please lower taxes for all corporations and lessen government regulations on banks and wall street. Please give health insurance companies the right to not pay my claims. Lesser government the better. Please privatize the police, and fire dept also so they may see if its finacially profitable to save a life.

  • @eajinabi . . . A great awakening is happening on this planet and I believe more and more people share your same thoughts on this matter. You are wise!

  • @cheesejerkys I was merely pointing out your hypocrisy. You are calling someone dumb when you spell simple words. When you spell oppose apose, it isn't the same thing. Yea I guess you are right, no use in talking to a retard.

  • @cheesejerkys and if you weren't retarded, you would know how to spell oppose

  • Poor fools. They have NO idea what communism or socialism is. Keep voting against your best interests...the corporations thank you.

  • Fucking idiots...

  • yell loud. everyone can hear you. discuss at a normal level... then someone might hear AND listen. big difference there

  • they should make a show called "are you smarter than a tea partier

  • @FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 The round would only be 1 question long and the contestant would always win...

  • what ?

  • oh my god... they have lost it

  • not a democracy, its mob rule!

    and they should do the reseach before they go out and protest like this.

  • I think the majority of those people currently have no insurance and believe that thay can get through with their savings when illness hits them.

    They believe that national health care means they will be forced to pay the premium even if they can't afford it.

    They probably have no idea how the other countries run their health care system. They only believe what they heard from the radio talk show hosts.

  • Americans really dont want to help people....

  • I don't understand these american right wingers complaining about health care. They think its like the UK NHS but it isn't its just subsidised. But even if it was in the UK we pay around the same income tax as percent of income as americans do yet we all get 100% free health care for life.

    In America you pay your taxes like we do but then have to pay for private healthcare that goes up in price as soon as you get ill and eventually when you most need it its unaffordable.

  • @srspower But you forget America spends nearly 10 times what the united kingdom does on military. Let the sick die, so we can pay for more weapons.

  • reading these comments, watching these vids it just makes me sick in the end watching both sides get filled with reslf-rightgeous rage when it should make everyone sad to see a nation of people so full of their damn selves that they refuse to realize that they're no better than those they're against. I can't help but wonder if, had they known what it would eventually lead to, would the people that sacrificed so much to make this country have fought on or just have said fuck it I"m done...

  • This town hal meeting sounds like a cesspool of retarded children that Rorschach from the Watchmen was talking about.

  • Why did they close the doors to a public meeting?

    Two possible reasons:

    The loudmouths made having a discussion impossible.

    There are Fire Codes restricting crowd size in buildings. If there had been a fire and some of those clowns were trampled, they would have blamed the Government for not controlling the meeting.

  • What are they so angry about? Young, low-status south park libertarians who practically lives on the internet and 50 year old conservatives with a boring life are addicted to aggression, because it gives them energy and authority that they completely lack by default. The tea party is just an excuse to let it out.

  • @ApemanD over9000 thumbs up for you

  • I don't support conspiracy theories but I don't consider possibilities. Here's one: you're a health insurance company and you're against obamacare, but you don't want to send any of your employees out to protest. So you'll send out some of your clients. Say, "hey, look, this health care bill is going to hurt us, if you go and voice your opinion, we'll agree to lower your payments or give you more coverage or both." I'm not saying I even believe that happened at all, like I said: possibility.

  • @arthereld I mean I do consider them.

  • People obviously have yet to realize that "free airwaves" does not mean "unbiased airwaves".

    Also, "Last Gasp of the Angry White Man" sounds really poetic.

  • lol @ the last gasp of the angry white man

  • One solution might've been what they did at a school-board meeting I was at a few years ago: if you anticipate larger crowds, set up adjacent rooms with closed-circuit transmission of the meeting.

    It was still unruly, but no one could claim they were being "shut out."

  • how many of them will accept medicare when they reach 65 and how many are already on medicare

  • @TromboneUSAlabama

    That is a very good question.

  • @TromboneUSAlabama

    I don't want the government sticking it's corrupt hands in my meidcare or social security!

  • His last point was SO true. These people are being convinced by the health insurance companies to fight AGAINST their own best interests. They are being used by the insurance companies to make more money.....for the insurance companies. The companies are hijacking social unrest and misappropriating it.

    It's so fucking sad.

  • so true.

  • @gngarcia1983 ouch

  • IGNORANT REDNECK CRACKERS!!

  • man the internet realy brings out the evil in people here :P

    i guess thats just how man is naturaly

  • @TheTrueMetal9 And the ignorance as well. What he does not understand but thinks is correct is how and why the tea party member believe what they do and stand for what they do. But like a typical lib, he just makes offhand comments that he believes is true, sprinkled with insults and derogatory remarks about people he knows little about. Talk about parroting what you hear, he's saying exactly what someone on CNN said assuming it to be true.

  • The tea-baggers are simple people who have been duped by corporate America into protesting against proposals that would be beneficial to the people. How many of those people are on Medicare, a public insurance option?

  • @yarmo28 Really? It is the fools such as yourself who lack the understanding of who is whom that are the simple minded. Too busy looking for joke, jabs or making derogatory comments such as "teabagger" to know what is really going on. The foolish libs have never before been confronted so by the conservatives because by their very nature they are conservative. Have you sir, ever had an original thought? Have you ever been able to debate the topic without insulting those in opposition? I doubt it.

  • Yes, really! I'm afraid that fools like you are too myopic to see the wool being pulled over your eyes. The real conservative is one who can carry on an intelligent argument based upon law and tradition. Unfortunately, the so-called 'conservatives' you're talking about are unable to do so, by virtue of their limited exposure to the real world.

  • @yarmo28 Which is why you continue to insult me, someone you do not know and know nothing about rather than address the actual subject at hand.

  • @BlatentYak

    Do you really think one needs to see (and know) a rattlesnake before recognizing it for what it is? All I need to see is your own words to know what kind of a person you are.

  • @yarmo28 You do not have a clue and you never wiull. You are a boar.

  • @BlatentYak

    I'm not certain which language you are using, but you might have noticed that everyone is commenting in English. Would it be possible for you to do the same?

  • "Why are you closing the doors?"

    Because they want to have a dialogue, not a screaming contest. Learn to speak.

  • ohh cenk ... my friend, do not make this about race ... the white man is alive and fighting... clearly, those ass holes does not represent white ppl, they represent how idiotic humans can become

  • rofl. Americans *shakes head*

  • @glassbrain I know, glad i am canadian. lol

  • a bunch of dirty peasants

  • dirty peasants

  • We can hear you. Now actually say something dumb asses.

  • Corporations rule because dumb people are so easy to trick into activism and voting against their own long term economic well being. It is sad. They've convinced them that unions are bad, workers are bad, moving jobs over seas is good, buying American is bad, the list goes on and on. Unreal.

  • @wisdaniel actually from an economic perspective, unions are bad- in terms of efficiency. and i'm an economist. Still doesn't take away from the fact that these people are glen beck sheep

  • @kakahass What's the harm in giving workers more? The owners and upper management of some corporations have multi-million dollar salaries and bonuses. If workers make more, those multi-millionaires can make less. Depending on the size of the company, this can make sense or not, I know, but I've ben much happier working (hard) in unions than working outside of unions. There's no reason to say the owner and upper management deserve 100X the workers salary instead of 20X...it's arbitrary.

  • unions can screw you over just as much as a company can

  • A few cannisters of tear gas would have been a good idea.

  • All these fucktards watched Fox News before going on protests. I bet my life on it.

  • lmao

  • thank god for free speech.

  • @puregenius09 god is fake

  • i wonder if these people found out that libraries are a socialist concept with their free books, would they start chanting mindlessly against them?

  • @sverma84 Some of have them have yet to encounter a library's existence.

  • Just like American Propaganda inspired Nazi Propaganda tactics, American Eugenics studies before the war inspired German Eugenics. As in the past, groups in America promote Bigotry, Racism, Chauvinism, Misogynistim, Homophobia, etc here & inspire such behavior around the world, and many are against universal health. Furthermore, none of the other developed countries in the world with universal health coverage have people who have bankruptcies due to health problems, in the US its over 50%.

  • Unfortunately, most people don't understand logic or how rhetoric (language intended to influence the listener or reader by use of emotional speech.) While its true that both side have used political rhetoric in the past, the right has joined with evangelicals to take rhetoric from an occasional tool used in desperation to their standard mode of operation. It has become a form of propaganda not seen on our shores since world war 2.

  • @Ernestmac---Yeah..it called McCarthyism and the philosophical propaganda theories of Joseph Goebbels (Hitler's Chancellor of Germany)..also an inherited Fox noise tactic...if you haven't noticed..lol

  • How come the "don't taze me, bro" guy got lit up..and these unruly people dont??

    Cops on a daily basis use tasers on children, seniors, even handicapped people..but NEVER on republican tea-bag mobs, no matter how wild and violent they get.

    How come when people protest at the G8 , the police CAN'T WAIT to beat the living shit out of every last person the can swing a bat at?? It's a bloodbath every time.

    But law enforcement has double-standards for republican-town hall thugs. Those are 'patriots'

  • I was just thinking that! That kid just had a legitimate question.

  • is it just me or does there booing make them sound like zombies

  • rofl... not one of those people know why they are there or what they are yelling about... lmfao.. so sad

  • america sucks, point in general

  • Nothing is wrong with agreeing to allow the public to see the laws they propose. In fact, they do just that.

  • Just go to google and type in healthcare bill. The first link directs you to the whole 1018 page healthcare bill. You obviously know enough about the internet to post a comment on youtube. So take the time to read the whole thing and then if you don't like some thing you can bring that up. But if you are going to support these ignorant buffoons without bothering to read what you are so angry about, you just look stupid. This country is so pathetic. They take pride in being ignorant.

  • haha, don't forget that they all look like idiots to begin with.

  • Those dicks disrupting the town hall meeting are only embarrassing themselves by showing themselves as moronic and uncivilized boars.

  • this is funny to me, if the government would take away our nation health care it would be a general strike, it would be a revolution, regular americans who's never seen NHS in england or socialised medicine in scandinavia doesn't know how great it realy is, + you can sleep at night caus you know you're helping the weakest in your society by, so why are americans so frightend by a policy that we in parts of europe view as the very basic of humanety

  • i think they were really trying to say.... KKK! KKK! KKK!

    when republicans go home at night they can finally take there Klan hoods off.

  • that is one of the most ignorant things ive ever read, and im independent. sounds like youre the one who is a closet racist.

  • what you fail to realize is that these people could care less about healthcare. if obama gave everyone a million dollars, cured aids, cancer, and ended the war these people would still hate him. the debate in this country is about race. this is still a deeply racist country. believe what you want. do i think all republicans are racists? no. but i can tell you these people are.

  • funny thing i was in dc for the tea party so i suppose im racist? i am tired of big government and obama leads the pack with that goal. he is all about big government and sadly you wont see it until its too late. you only suuport obama because "hes black." too bad he is mulatto, therefore 50% white. that must burn your blood.

  • you gotta lay off the wild turkey, drunkie. Your dang wildin' out.

  • brilliant comeback. but should i expect anything else from an uneducated and ignorant minority who thinks hes still being "oppressed?" thats right, im not a republican and im not racist. whats your next excuse? face it, you hate whitey. let it go.

  • I'M a white guy. Thanks for stating my case.

  • LOL, ok sure you are.  youre so desperate youre lying now. typical left-winger. let me guess, youre not a democrat now, right? OWNED.

  • Its only racist because of guilty white liberals like yourself that have to inject race into any discussion. You are the problem!

  • You mean like Robert Byrd, the DEMOCRAT senator that used to be in the KKK?

  • These people are worked up for 2 reasons...

    1. Their guy isn't President right now.

    2. racism.

  • you hit the nail right on the head my friend.

  • Gosh These Fucking Hill Billies ... What the Fuck man ! sum of u Americans are such ignorant retards , its ridiculous ... and the racism that still runs rampant amongst all these fuckin conservative southerners is crazy man ... Wow !!!!

    From the UK ... where the majority of our citizens are civilized and we tend to clear things up through debates ... God Help u guys !

  • Don't concern yourself limey, that's called democracy. It's messy, stupid, a total pandemonium, but in the end, when the smoke clears up, it turns out to make us stronger as a nation.

  • LOL . its a democracy he says ... u Naive moron . that really is what u are ... A democracy whereby right winger nutters try to scare a nation and have them protest a health care plan which aims to help a people ...

    and who the hell are u to tell me not to concern myself u ignorant Cracker !

  • Obama is the joker - your not old enough to know that the govt never gets anything rite

  • get your foot in the door - Obama wants national health care - the public option is all about the govt taking control

  • I'm worked up because i fight against marxism

  • No one proposed national health care?  Angry white men? Cheaper, not more expensive? Don't know what they are worked up about?

    Bozo, if you read the bill the house passed of paid any attention to what Pelosi and her white house puppet HAVE proposed, then you'd know what they are worked up about. They DO know! Are you really that stupid? You sound more like a parrot.

  • "Scuffle by people on different sides of this issue" has mostly been elderly people being pushed around by ACORN and union thugs.

  • Your sad

  • They are chanting "Hear our voice!" because the politicians are ignoring people and pretending their anger is not real and is just astroturf. It is amazingly stupid of Dems to not take this seriously. The Clintons tried to take over healthcare in 1993 and the US elected a Republican Congress in 1994. Don't the Dems ever learn?

  • I am amazed people do not understand why people are angry. It has been said over and over again. This is not about reforming healthcare, which is wonderful here in the US.  It is a power grab by politicians, esp Obama. The power grab is unconstitutional. The 10th Amendment reserves powers not otherwise granted to the federal government. The Constitution does not give the government the right to prohibit the sale of health insurance as HR 3200 does (page 16-17).

  • They need to be angry, because the politicians are not listening. I AM ANGRY!! They should be on national heath care and social security. They should also drive smart cars. There is no one helping people losing their homes, but the people receiving the bailout money still have homes and most are getting a bonus. DO NOT VOTE FOR THE POLITICIANS THAT DO NOT WORK FOR THE PEOPLE....GET RID OF THEM. WE COULD SAVE A LOT OF MONEY IF WE COULD CUT THEIR BENIFIT PACKAGE. OR TAKE AWAY NANCY'S PLANE.

  • so uhhhh if u actually read the bill it is very un-promising to the american ppl. just saying. and im pretty sure this guy hasn't

  • i think your an idiot = )

  • first off, this guy is a telepromter puppet just like obama, and if you dont see government take over then your just tunnel visioned like the majority of this nation that voted obama in from the start, and if you take a look at history and stop being so closed minded youll see why its a socialist/communist takeover and you guys are just eating it up cause its labeled as "democratic" ,hitler took over the car industry, hitler took over the health care industry, hitler started a "civilian" army

  • I think you should see a psychiatrist.

  • so then when does obama start carpet bombing poland and tossing the jews in the oven?

  • The uneducated, the ill-informed, the radicals. They are the parasites of the country, who attempt to stop progression. It's unbelievable. Where were they when Bush was destroying our country and removing our rights?

  • I hate this show.

  • when you chant so loudly that no one can hear anyone else that is a fillabuster

  • What are they so angry about? I couldn't tell you, but thankfully this mannerless, thoughtless and wrongheaded segment of our society is just a vocal *minority*. I'd like to see how these people conduct themselves in their day to day affairs. These are the same scumbags who scream at the kids at mcdonalds because they have to wait 2 extra minutes for fries. My advice would be, first, read up on the issue to avoid dumb statements like "death squads", and two, grab a Miss Manners book.

  • Facisim, Socialism, Communism, Nationalism, statism, federalism has no place in AMERICA! LAND OF THE FREE!

    All of the above mentioned stand against everything this country stands for: Our basic moral founding fundemental valuse and priciples. You are against personal accountability and expect entitlement. You are a socialist and you are as blind as our American liberals

  • haha what is this the new Klan? I bet you these ppl dont know crap about what ever they are screaming about.

    Thank god im CANADIAN!!

  • Amen

  • Funded by George Sorros no doubt.

  • Glenn Beck will be thrown off TV! I hope He is vile and disgusting

  • Change your channel then. Also, yes Bush was a scoundrel, The first bail out was rushed through by George Bush and Ben Golman Sachs. Why? The Point is no matter who is in Government, if they are given a free hand, there goes our freedom! WE mus protect our liberties, not just for us but, for out children and grandchildren.

  • Freedom, liberty, & our pursuit to happiness should never be compromised. Health care is government controled and is the backdoor way to losing everything this country has fought for. You trust the government?

  • Why has not Osama Bin laden been captured? We were in Iraq!

  • These idiot republicans simply hate a black president and I will keep stating this as a fact as I have read many evil posters in other subjects regarding this issue! For example skinheads!

  • "These idiot republicans simply hate a black president"

    A lot of those idiot Republicans are black, so you're way off base there.

  • Obama as you see is turning the economy around just as I predicted!

    All is left is jobs and healthcare!

  • These haters hate Obama because he is black and there is no explanation because these idiots understand nothing about healthcare!

  • This in part is in fact a race issue! I am 45 years old and never seen such vile hatred as I see today! I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN AGAIN!

  • Bush spent 3 trillion in Iraq! Obama has had many death threats and you republican idiots are to blame!

  • Afancharger, first i was totally wrong, then I am half wrong and now do you want to prove to me that I am right! I can do that by saying the middle east saw the Bush administration as inciters or agitators and Cheney stated Iraq would welcome the USA with flowers and candy! What a lie that was!

  • "...when tens of your soldiers were killed in minor battles and one American pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu, you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you...the extent of your impotence and weakness became very clear." ~ Osama Bin Laden

    Osama Bin Laden refers to Clinton, not the Bush Administration.

    "Terrorism is one of the greatest dangers we face in this new Global Era." ~ Clinton

  • "Without military security, we have no freedom. Just ask the families that lost people on 9/11." If Clinton did not downsize and weaken our military, then 9/11, most likely, would not have happened. Therefore, Bush is NOT to blame.

  • All I meant is that you were right on Republicans cutting taxes and Democrats rising taxes.

    But you are wrong about deficit decreasing with Democrats and increasing with reublicans.

    I expained in my comment below.

  • "The U.S. Congress passed in 1998 and President Bill Clinton signed into law an act making it the official policy of the U.S. government to change the regime in Iraq." ~ Richard Miniter

    "All Bush did was take the law and the policy of the U.S. government for years (due to Clinton, so blame Clinton, not Bush) and put it into action." ~ Richard Miniter

  • I fell as though the United States is going to hell as I see right wing politicians admitting that they are right wing terrorists! you will find this video on you tube! Admit it right wingers! you despise Obama because he is black! I am white and I voted for obama and will never regret it as I did Bush for the needless slaughter of 4000 troops in iraq

  • "n three short years, with two short wars, the United States and its allies have liberated more than 50 million people from two of the world's most repressive regimes. America and her allies are fighting for women's rights, minority's rights, and political freedom in both those lands (Afghanistan and Iraq)."

  • "America and Britain have rebuilt homes, schools, and hospitals to replace the Baath party. Food, medicines, and other material were given to Iraq's citizens to help the people who need it. Iraqi's are thankful for the aid in freedom from America and British troops. America and Britain built bridges, water supplies, sewer treatments, power plants, revised the school text that were 50 years out-dated."

  • "On July 30, 2005, Iraq citizens were freely able to vote in elections for a new 'leader president'."

  • Barack Obama clearly wants to see this country prosper and then you have the haters like Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, and the entire Fox news cast against obama! I want Obama to succeed! The right wingnuts do not! I am white and I am proud to have a black president! The hate has to stop!

  • These town hall haters are absolutely out of control and I were to advise law enforcement, tear gas would be used! Freedom of speech is one thing but hatred of obama because he is black is another! I do not condone bigotry and never did!

  • I want to correct the republicans on a few statements! I heard a republican at a town hall meeting calling himself a right wing terrorist for one and then I have to say the hate coming out of these meetings is indeed racist! I have watched many videos and have watched eye contact and I think this country may be in trouble!

  • It is incorrect to judge a group of people by one or few people who do not really represent others.

  • I wonder where these right wing sheep were when Republicans were the party of the deficit. I think the only ones who would follow these non-thinking Right winger dribble would be those who voted for Bush a second time after the world saw how Bush just destroy the US: financially, morally, and with our freedom. It's pathetic that right winger continue to show their losing strategy of trying to squash free speech. I can't wait to vote for Obama again.

  • Understand me when i say when republicans cut taxes, the deficit skyrockets and that is exactly what happened when bush was in office!

  • Understand your argument is half wrong.

    When taxes rise, people don't spend as much money, reulting in deficit increasing.

    When taxes are cut, people spend more money, resulting in reducing the deficit.

    So, again, you have a FALSE, MISINFORMED argument that you stated.

    Come back when you have something INTELLIGENT and FACTUAL to say.

  • You jerks at these town hall meeting listen to Fox and hate Obama because he is black! I have a problem with bigot morons! I am white and i voted for Obama and if you do not like it, then go to hell!

  • These stupid haters at these town hall meetings need an old fashioned asskicking! They hate blacks and a black president and these people are pure evil! I am white by the way!

  • Your own Democrats show up at these meetings are side against Obama. Are democrats haters who don't agree on ONE issue, haters?

    Obama has more than trpled the debt.

    You don't like it when Bush had debt. Yet, debt is okay under Obama? You contradict yourself! Just with you not like debt and Obama having more debt than Bush, I don't see why you like Obama.

    Except you are a lazy bitch who is a drunk NON-worker who wants everything for free and re-distrubuted money not originally yours.

  • Also, even if healthcare passed, government does not give free healthcare to people with pre-existing condition, so you would not receive free health care.

    So if free health passes, then you are pissed for being governmentally denied health care, do not complain, since you fight for it.

    You are being deceived by the government, which is pathetic.

  • That is a lie! Who are the republicans who want obama's birth certificate! The certificate is online! Who is the right wing bastard who calls himself a right wing terrorist! Find it here on you tube!

  • GO OBAMA! WE LOVE YOU! WE SUPPORT YOU!

  • Hmmm...let's see. I have to buy food and clothes, and when I do I pay sales tax...against my will. I have to buy some sort of shelter, and when I buy a home I pay property taxes...against my will. If I don't pay property taxes, the government forces me off the land that I supposedly own. That sounds like robbery to me. lol wut

  • I don't see what's so hard to understand.

  • Lucky cop huh lol, had to be black JUST HAD TO BE

  • It is obvious what they are worked up about. The government has no business doing healthcare. We tolerated medicare, medicaid, etc and they just want more. It's a never ending assault on the freedom of the individual . I shouldn't be forced to subsidize your healthcare. Plain and simple.

  • OBAMA LIES GRANDMA  DIES

  • clean your guns go to the range buy more ammo before  S.E.I.U. thugs show up at your door or your worksite

  • People like you are haters! I am for gun rights and too bad you hate our black president but I would not want to be in a bigots shoes like yours!

  • unions= lazy bloodsuckers fuck you

  • unions are hardworking dudes unlike your sorry republifuck ass

  • I am SEIU pussy boy and if you dont like it, go straight to hell

  • LETS GIVE CRACK WHORES AND 30 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TOP HEALTH CARE i think not not on my dime

  • unions destroyed the airlines,ruined the big three auto companies---unions suck the life out of companies,unions suck communist scum--OBAMA SOCALIST SCUM

  • The health care reform bill-page:29 states health care will be rationed-page:30 states a committee decides care and no appeals- pages:427 :430 are about death consulting when you are denied care.

  • If uyou want Bush to be president then accept your love loved one to to be killed in war moron!

  • you smell like ignorance

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