I have a death cult video too. There's a pretty good link in the video description box that goes to the 100 warning signs of a cult. Ha...it uses AA as an example but it doesn't claim that AA is a death cult.
I agree with this video. But, some Christians absolve themselves by providing charity. So, I can't quite bring it to myself to slay them. I guess that I would just present the alternate point of view as you are doing.
man religion is the BEST thing that EVER happened to the earth. Everyone is killing each other and raping each other before religion. Nobody was married and everyone had aids and died a long time ago. I like how you just took the bible, read it and then said DEATH CULT LULZ! fucking retard. Any fuckwit with half a brain (you only have a quarter though, so GOOD FOR YOU!) could do this. Thats why this video is so shitty and only has 4k views. You will never be good at anything, kill yourself
@Netwriter I have to say, Netwriter, you do make some good points. I'm falling away from the faith, because I've finally woke up. Christianity sure is a death cult.
@Shmust religion is the BEST thing that EVER happened to the earth? The you believe in Gaia? Everyone is killing each other and raping each other? Then you believe in zombies or vampires? If everyone died a long time ago, how are you posting on youtube? Are you GOD?
@Shmust " Everyone is killing each other and raping each other before religion. Nobody was married and everyone had aids and died a long time ago." Lol! Do you have any evidence to back that up? Yes, that's a rhetorical statement, of course you don't have any, since it's bullshit. Oh, and by the way, AIDS didn't exist in biblical times. Idiot.
I actually made this exact argument to a religitard once, they got mad and stormed off, it was fun, and long before i saw this so sorry guy but i cannot credit you with that one its just a conclusion i came to on my own
Hmm... Scored 4/10 (Finnish lutheran christian). However I´d say association with death is sufficient for the name. It´s the cult part I dispute, for the term implies high socio-cultural tension which, in this case, does not apply (around 80% population shares the same religion). Why are you sorry to inform that potentional viewer might be in a death cult? Death is quite natural part of life. Btw, this quiz could do with few more questions (endorsing capital punishment etc).
Even if most of the criticism on this video is justified, it's still really sickening and creepy behaviour of followers of religions/cults that implement any of these things mentioned in the video. So even if anyone "wins", they'll still be in a bizarre religious group. The only winning move is not to play at all.
don' t have to be christian to be in a death cult we all are!we all believe we will die don't we ?so far i am not dead so i guess i am in a living cult for now hopefully for good '
@suzsawyer7 A detah cult is a group of people who are falsly lead to believe that they need to die for a good reason. Usually they're offered a reward after death. In some cases they're offered a reward only if they die at a specific time. But the most poular death cult, in western society (christianity) bases thier entire belief system on death (as was just demonstrated).
Basically, it's saying, "Do what we tell you to until you die, and then we'll pay you back."...
@BadassMcAwesome1 I was a christian since I was about 15. Now I am 29 and I finally realized what I was believing! Life is so much more beautiful to me now. I cherish every breath I take, I let my kids have fun and be themselves instead of trying to mold them into whatever the bible says they should be. My son once said to me that he wanted to die so he could go to heaven with Jesus. He is 7 years old! Hell no!! Not anymore! I am slowly trying to help him understand the truth.
@suzsawyer7 Right on! Our gift is life and our greatest rewards are to be found here on Earth not in death.
To look forward to death is to miss life . I used to believe that same BS about many religions. I am glad to be free of it now. When I look back on it, I can't even imagine how anyone can believe this shit.
It's great you allow your kids to be free and not ruled by a book.
like i said do the research on the charismatic movement and you might understand a little bit more as to whats going on with the churches they are tainted from an outside source!!!
@brentonreece Why don't you just make a case for what you believe instead of going around like a pandetic troll telling folks to do some research. If you think you have found the truth then put it forth for examination. If what you claim is truth then you owe it to the rest of us to educate us. You can also make a video response, but to continue to do as you have done, is a worthless use of band width.
Great Video. The religious adherents just don't want to accept the reality of their unfounded & flawed beliefs. They just refuse to acknowledge that their motivations are fear of death & vincible ignorance. They lash out whenever truth contradicts their cultish delusion.
It has been my lot to be present at the death of a number of people, both Christian and atheist. Christians are overwhelmingly more afraid of death. Many "believers" are panic-stricken, terrorized at death, while most atheists are sorrowful at leaving or even calmly welcoming, but almost never terrified. It's so sad- after trading their only life for a futuristic delusion they discover at the END of their life that they do not really trust this god who has engineered such horrible tortures.
These videos are usually a good standpoint, but people get too wrapped up in religion to keep civil. Oh the irony of the supporting blanket fueling the fire...
wonderfully succinct. super facepalm, it's still hard to understand how such a farce continues to be gobbled up. circumcision and baptism should be tantamount to child abuse.
Good video. However, I looked up "death cult" in Wikipedia, and it's apparently a synonym for "destructive cult", which is defined as follows: "A destructive cult is a religion or other group which has caused or has a high probability of causing harm to its own members or to others." In that sense I cannot view, for example, most of moderate Christianity as being "death cults". (I'm a former moderate Christian.)
Oh good. You take a single blurb from a Wikipedia disambiguation page and argue by semantic and defining it out of existence.
Which doesn't change the point of the video:
That Christianity is a religion that's creepily obsessed with death. Or if you prefer, the apocalypse, the worthlessness of life and the afterlife in general.
Oh, and a literal magical blood sacrifice.
When most people talk about "death cults" this is exactly what they mean.
@dhx84@dhx84 Most religions address the philosophical and metaphysical, which has life/death as a central theme. So it is just natural that death features more prominently than usual. Christianity happens to deal with the general human fantasy of an afterlife. It is a far cry from real death cults, where adherents are often required to commit suicide or sacrifice people to their gods or otherwise seriously harm other human beings.
"Christianity happens to deal with the general human fantasy of an afterlife. It is a far cry from real death cults, where adherents are often required to commit suicide or sacrifice people to their gods..."
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People's Temple anyone?
Branch Davidians?
Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God cult?
@D34dH053 It's like saying murderers are indistinguishable from non-murderers until after they commit murder. Therefore all people are murderers. Try again.
"It's like saying murderers are indistinguishable from non-murderers until after they commit murder"
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Murderers who act from mental instability show indicative signs of instability. those who act out of passion would not.
The problem: christianity is a veil for signs of instability. Claiming that talking donkeys existed and a virgin gave birth would be considered signs of instability if it wasn't for religion. i.e. the only reason people are in insane asylums is lack of adherents.
One does have to ignorant of reality to make this claim.
Again: People who murder for reasons other than passion do show signs of instability. Murderers who act out of passion don't show signs and are indistinguishable.
How can one distinguish mental instability from religion?
Leprechauns exist=instable
Talking goats/gods/men made out of magical clay and life blown from the nostrils of that god/talking snakes/virgin births =stable?
@D34dH053 I believe that there is a very big difference between the kind of delusion, stemming from real mental instability, of somebody who sees and experiences fantastical creatures and such, and someone who believes in a god. Christopher Hitchens once quoted somebody who famously said that he never saw a barrel of oil. Now imagine that you have been brought up to take for granted the existence of something, even though that something doesn't exist. Uninformed? Yes. Mentally unstable? No.
@Imaginefree69 No of course not. But for people who see hallucinations or suffer from generally recognized mental conditions there is usually some kind of medical or genetic cause and there usually is some harm involved. On the other hand, if you have been told something is true your whole life long, and everybody around you also believes it, it would be extremely difficult for anyone to recognize this. Most religious people are otherwise sane, healthy and productive. (see next part)
@GiDaOne "Most religious people are otherwise sane, healthy and productive. " That's a big "otherwise." Christians have a higher rate of divorce, addiction, incarceration, mental illness, and suicide than their atheistic cohort. Their IQs and educational levels are lower. Their incomes are lower. They have more fear of death, more guilt and shame and self-loathing. They are harsher parents, and often more violent. Other than that they are sane, healthy, and productive.
@Imaginefree69 You list a lot of negative traits of Christians as opposed to non-believers (or non-Christians?). Even if all those are true, it may simply be that Christianity appeals more to people who are living in those circumstances than most first-world citizens. I don't think your argument is valid.
@GiDaOne Jesus said to judge a tree by its fruit. That's what I am doing. Jesus said his disciples would be identified by their love. Fail. Jesus said his followers would have perfect unity, yet they are split into 38,000 mutually hostile denominations. Fail. The bible says that those born of god can not sin. Fail. I think these are valid pieces of evidence. If you have evidence to share, I'd be glad to see it.
@Imaginefree69 A believer might point out that the Bible also says there is none without sin, and that your verse refers to not sinning in God's eyes. And of course there are some Christians who live in peace and harmony. They might also point out to you that most charity organizations (at least it used to be I think) are Christian. And even if Christians fail, it does not in itself invalidate any doctrine.
@GiDaOne "Bible also says there is none without sin" Certainly. For every statement in the Bible there is an equal and opposite statement. That's one reason there are 38,000 denominations derived from a single book of myth. "there are some Christians who live in peace and harmony." Of course. And some atheists, some Krishnas, some Hindus... Also, Christians have higher rates of suicide, addiction, divorce, mental illness, and incarceration than their non-believing neighbours. That's reality.
@GiDaOne Google is easy to use. I would have to look it up myself, as these are facts that I have accumulated over many years of education and training and observation over a long career in mental health. Jesus said that the Father gave him all he asked for, and he prayed that his followers would be "one", just as he and the father are one, that the world would believe because of the one-ness of his followers, and that they would be "made perfect in one." John 17:11 - 23
@GiDaOne "even if Christians fail, it does not in itself invalidate any doctrine." It certainly invalidates the numerous scriptures promising that believers will be victorious, that believing makes one a new creation, that the fruit of the spirit will be manifest in believers, that believers will be identified by love and unity, that god will "bear you up lest you fall" and many, many more. If being a Christian does not change your life, if it does not produce Christ-like behaviour, it's a lie.
@Imaginefree69 Trying to get to diagnose eg. your average healthy productive Christian to get diagnosed as mentally ill would never stand up in any court. That being said I don't deny that there are brands of religion that are conducive to dangerous or harmful acitvity which infringes on the mental health of their participants.
@D34dH053 The term "delusion" is also technically incorrect. It is usually connected to pathological behaviour. Most of us have friends and family who are religious. Would you refer to them as pathological nutcases? In most cases, no. Now let's look at the definition of a cult. A cult is: (1) a minority belief = not true for Christianity (2) harmful to others = not true in most cases regarding Christianity, although I would agree that in a few cases, some harm is done.
@GiDaOne "It is usually connected to pathological behaviour." Not necessarily. The belief that one is a tea pot or Jesus Christ or Spock may not produce pathological behaviour, but the pathology produces irrational behaviour. Such as believing that God Almighty talks to you, giving your children's college funds to a snake oil salesman, telling friends and strangers that they are going to be tortured for ever by a merciful, loving god...
Let's see. The Bible has countless lines involving genocide and killing infidels. And most notably, Abraham thought the murder of his own son was something God genuinely expected of him.
Much as you would like to sweep this under the rug as non-applicable, or not something "moderate" Christians endorse, it's still relevant.
"Oh well, those extremists don't represent what *I* think."
No, they're just old-school. And you're still in a death cult. A nihilistic religion. Sorry.
@dhx84 First of all, I have left the faith some time ago already. I thought I have made that clear in a previous comment. I just attempt to have as balanced a view as possible, which I don't think the author of the video does. Secondly, although the Bible condones a lot of behaviour that is seen as immoral by today's standards, you will notice that most denominations shun the kind of physical violence that is associated with death cults (physical abuse, suicide, murder).
Hey! Before you bash the bible, you better read St. Luke 17:35 "There will be two women grinding together", blah, blah. I was so deeply moved by that passage that I went to a video rental store and asked the attendant if they had any video's pertaining to that verse and was told they had an entire section dedicated to it! Jackpot! Praise the lord!
Yes, the Abrachamic religions are alot about death. But at the same time, nobody really dies according to them. Everybody is immortal. Everybody gets life after death, either in heaven or hell. So I guess Abrachamic death is just a word for going to the next place. Only for atheists (and perhaps other religions) does death really mean death.
"But at the same time, nobody really dies according to them. Everybody is immortal. "
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So they are wrong as we know people die. Unless your great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents are still living and able to send you birthday presents...
If they are not living in the context for which life can be observed by living beings, then what use is it that people consider them "alive"? How is calling them "living" being honest?
@D34dH053 It is not my claim, but a suggestion that christians and others claim this. I believe death is the end. And I also believe that it´s meaningless to speculate about things that is impossible to know, like if there is life after death. If there is, we will find out when we die.
@Astillion "Only for atheists (and perhaps other religions) does death really mean death." Right. That's why David wept and prayed and fasted when he thought his son was "going to the next place." That's why people sent for prophets to raise their children who had "gone to the next place." Why do you play these childish word games? We all know what DEATH means. So did Abraham and Moses and Jesus (if they existed).
@Imaginefree69 "going/gone to the next place". This statements support my statement. In christianity, death means going to the next place, which is heaven or hell. There, your existance continues, you are not dead. Atheists believe that when you die, you die. There is no next place. Only atheists believe that death marks the end. Have I made it more clear?
@Imaginefree69 Obviously, I have not. I read your last comment again, and there has been a misunderstanding. You think I´m a christian, and I thought you were. I went to your page and saw that you were an atheist, and so am I. I wrote in an earlier comment that I believe death is the end. My point was that religious people (not me) believe everyone to be immortal, because of the afterlife. I find it a bit annoying that I always have to point out my atheism here on YouTube.
@craigdb84 Holy fucking shitbricks Batman, look at this moron! The entirety of his uploads are Kent "I'm loving the prision rape" Hovind lectures! Wow...
Hello craigdb84 you silly science hater you *pinches cheeks*, you're just so adorable.
Oh look, another science-hating, Hovind dick-sucking religionist drone, what else is new?
Yo Mr. Religionist Drone, how does it feel that your mini-messiah Hovind has become a label of stupidity and willful ignorance, that when someone want to label someone as extra-ordinarily stupid on a subject, they write him off as "The Kent Hovind of (Insert subject)"? Ain't life's a bitch when your religion is made a laughing stock? xD
Great video, however I believe you could add another question:
Did your cult created endless misery for women, torture for those not belonging to it, and murder in the million? If the answer is yes, then you are in a CULT!
"Hes dead, Jim!" Or in this case: "Hes dead, James!"
Of course, Christians will say that Christ's sacrifice was a triumph OVER death, but the ghoulish fixation on the gory details of his suffering give away the morbidly fetishistic nature of their theology. What after all is the "good news" that Jesus brought to the world but the salvific nature of his own impending demise? His life was a mere prelude to this bloody climax, serving only as filler leading to the main event. Death cult, indeed!
Let's face it, Xians have no choice other than to focus on death. They certainly can't deliver on promises in this life, and we don't really want them focussed on threatening and delivering death in the manner of insecure Muslims.
This is a dangerous aspect of their "cult". Any regard for the world and society is irrelevant if it gets more souls to their death god. So big wars, environmental damage, anything...it just doesn't matter. Only the afterlife is important to fundamentalists.
I have a death cult video too. There's a pretty good link in the video description box that goes to the 100 warning signs of a cult. Ha...it uses AA as an example but it doesn't claim that AA is a death cult.
mykoolaidtastesfunny 1 month ago
I agree with this video. But, some Christians absolve themselves by providing charity. So, I can't quite bring it to myself to slay them. I guess that I would just present the alternate point of view as you are doing.
JasonDamisch 2 months ago
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@JasonDamisch,
What is the oath of Sabean of Seba (Shin Bet Aleph) whose name means, "Destroy the begotten of the Mighty" when he did Job 1:15?
What is the oath of Abasuba (father is Seba) in Kenya when they took part in the Mau Mau uprising, like Onyanga Obama?
Quran Surah 21 Al-Anbiya 83 & 95
"Remember therefore Job who cried to his Lord, stress has seized me, be most merciful to those who are merciful."
"But there is a ban on any population we have destroyed. No restoration."
ReligionOfSacrifice 1 day ago
man religion is the BEST thing that EVER happened to the earth. Everyone is killing each other and raping each other before religion. Nobody was married and everyone had aids and died a long time ago. I like how you just took the bible, read it and then said DEATH CULT LULZ! fucking retard. Any fuckwit with half a brain (you only have a quarter though, so GOOD FOR YOU!) could do this. Thats why this video is so shitty and only has 4k views. You will never be good at anything, kill yourself
Shmust 4 months ago
@Shmust If you think religion is a good thing, then you know nothing of history.
Netwriter 4 months ago 4
@Netwriter
aids, before the bible? so the bible was written after 1970?
unassumption 2 months ago in playlist More videos from Netwriter
@Netwriter I have to say, Netwriter, you do make some good points. I'm falling away from the faith, because I've finally woke up. Christianity sure is a death cult.
blicksflicks 1 month ago
@Shmust religion is the BEST thing that EVER happened to the earth? The you believe in Gaia? Everyone is killing each other and raping each other? Then you believe in zombies or vampires? If everyone died a long time ago, how are you posting on youtube? Are you GOD?
Strangerinasland 2 months ago
@Shmust "Shmust posted a bulletin 4 months ago
is a troll so don't bother being stupid"
Well at least you were truthful at one point.
moopism 1 month ago
@Shmust
I know this comment in 3 months old by, wow you're a fucking dumbshit.
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@Shmust " Everyone is killing each other and raping each other before religion. Nobody was married and everyone had aids and died a long time ago." Lol! Do you have any evidence to back that up? Yes, that's a rhetorical statement, of course you don't have any, since it's bullshit. Oh, and by the way, AIDS didn't exist in biblical times. Idiot.
pillsareyummy 6 days ago
I actually made this exact argument to a religitard once, they got mad and stormed off, it was fun, and long before i saw this so sorry guy but i cannot credit you with that one its just a conclusion i came to on my own
deathman1021 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Netwriter
"take, eat of my body...drink of my blood"...
Christian mythology reminds me of zombies and vampires
DontPanic6X7 6 months ago
Hmm... Scored 4/10 (Finnish lutheran christian). However I´d say association with death is sufficient for the name. It´s the cult part I dispute, for the term implies high socio-cultural tension which, in this case, does not apply (around 80% population shares the same religion). Why are you sorry to inform that potentional viewer might be in a death cult? Death is quite natural part of life. Btw, this quiz could do with few more questions (endorsing capital punishment etc).
PiiskaJesusFreak 6 months ago
"The secrets of evolution are death and time—the deaths of enormous numbers of life forms that were imperfectly adapted to the environment"
--Carl Sagan, Cosmos, page 20
Evolutionism: the greatest death cult that ever was, is or will be.
JMcH 6 months ago
@JMcH Wow! what religionists will say to protect their superstition. Amazing.
Netwriter 6 months ago 2
I know it! Ozzie Osbourne is in a Death Cult!
Brandt761 9 months ago
Allah and Jesus can fuck each other for all I care
choongd 10 months ago
Even if most of the criticism on this video is justified, it's still really sickening and creepy behaviour of followers of religions/cults that implement any of these things mentioned in the video. So even if anyone "wins", they'll still be in a bizarre religious group. The only winning move is not to play at all.
FHomeBrew 11 months ago
duh death is everywhere! it doesn't mean i'm in a cult
geminirat60 1 year ago
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This is both foolish and heavily biased. Show both sides of an issue, or show none of it.
NoraGoth1 1 year ago
@NoraGoth1 Present the other side in a response video. What is the other side?
Netwriter 1 year ago 10
don' t have to be christian to be in a death cult we all are!we all believe we will die don't we ?so far i am not dead so i guess i am in a living cult for now hopefully for good '
AdamusTheCounselor 1 year ago
don' t have to be christian to be in a death cult
AdamusTheCounselor 1 year ago
Fuck Allah
JustABitchyCancer 1 year ago
Where did you get these questions? Did you just make up the criteria for how many was required in order to be in a deathcult or what?
Korkzor 1 year ago
@Korkzor, only one is required.
ndyt 1 year ago
I wish that I had seen this a few years ago.
PeterRabbitTV 1 year ago
Awesome! I love it!
Vlad333Danziger 1 year ago
What is a death cult?
suzsawyer7 1 year ago
@suzsawyer7 A detah cult is a group of people who are falsly lead to believe that they need to die for a good reason. Usually they're offered a reward after death. In some cases they're offered a reward only if they die at a specific time. But the most poular death cult, in western society (christianity) bases thier entire belief system on death (as was just demonstrated).
Basically, it's saying, "Do what we tell you to until you die, and then we'll pay you back."...
Try to avoid these...
BadassMcAwesome1 1 year ago 3
@BadassMcAwesome1 lol Try to avoid these ROFLMAO
TheLyleman 1 year ago
@BadassMcAwesome1 I was a christian since I was about 15. Now I am 29 and I finally realized what I was believing! Life is so much more beautiful to me now. I cherish every breath I take, I let my kids have fun and be themselves instead of trying to mold them into whatever the bible says they should be. My son once said to me that he wanted to die so he could go to heaven with Jesus. He is 7 years old! Hell no!! Not anymore! I am slowly trying to help him understand the truth.
suzsawyer7 1 year ago 6
@suzsawyer7 Right on! Our gift is life and our greatest rewards are to be found here on Earth not in death.
To look forward to death is to miss life . I used to believe that same BS about many religions. I am glad to be free of it now. When I look back on it, I can't even imagine how anyone can believe this shit.
It's great you allow your kids to be free and not ruled by a book.
jmikejapan 10 months ago
This means that 90% of Americans are in death cults.
Holy shit, time to move again...
PirateMonkeyFilmz 1 year ago 3
Phew, looks like I passed. 0 of 10.
bizzyb0ne017 1 year ago
like i said do the research on the charismatic movement and you might understand a little bit more as to whats going on with the churches they are tainted from an outside source!!!
brentonreece 1 year ago
@brentonreece Why don't you just make a case for what you believe instead of going around like a pandetic troll telling folks to do some research. If you think you have found the truth then put it forth for examination. If what you claim is truth then you owe it to the rest of us to educate us. You can also make a video response, but to continue to do as you have done, is a worthless use of band width.
Netwriter 1 year ago 13
Great Video. The religious adherents just don't want to accept the reality of their unfounded & flawed beliefs. They just refuse to acknowledge that their motivations are fear of death & vincible ignorance. They lash out whenever truth contradicts their cultish delusion.
doubtingED 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
These videos are usually a good standpoint, but people get too wrapped up in religion to keep civil. Oh the irony of the supporting blanket fueling the fire...
FireDavio42 1 year ago
Great video. Agree 100%. Christianity is a sick cult that unfortunately is too widespread.
ThinkingBetter 1 year ago
wonderfully succinct. super facepalm, it's still hard to understand how such a farce continues to be gobbled up. circumcision and baptism should be tantamount to child abuse.
fifh89 1 year ago
Good video. However, I looked up "death cult" in Wikipedia, and it's apparently a synonym for "destructive cult", which is defined as follows: "A destructive cult is a religion or other group which has caused or has a high probability of causing harm to its own members or to others." In that sense I cannot view, for example, most of moderate Christianity as being "death cults". (I'm a former moderate Christian.)
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne
Oh good. You take a single blurb from a Wikipedia disambiguation page and argue by semantic and defining it out of existence.
Which doesn't change the point of the video:
That Christianity is a religion that's creepily obsessed with death. Or if you prefer, the apocalypse, the worthlessness of life and the afterlife in general.
Oh, and a literal magical blood sacrifice.
When most people talk about "death cults" this is exactly what they mean.
dhx84 1 year ago
@dhx84 @dhx84 Most religions address the philosophical and metaphysical, which has life/death as a central theme. So it is just natural that death features more prominently than usual. Christianity happens to deal with the general human fantasy of an afterlife. It is a far cry from real death cults, where adherents are often required to commit suicide or sacrifice people to their gods or otherwise seriously harm other human beings.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne
"Christianity happens to deal with the general human fantasy of an afterlife. It is a far cry from real death cults, where adherents are often required to commit suicide or sacrifice people to their gods..."
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People's Temple anyone?
Branch Davidians?
Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God cult?
Children of God/Family International?
D34dH053 1 year ago
@D34dH053 So you refer to these extremists groups as death cults and not mainstream or moderate Christianity, which was my point all along.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne
"So you refer to these extremists groups as death cults and not mainstream or moderate Christianity, which was my point all along."
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Something you have to be ignorant of:
These cults being indistinguishable from mainstream christianity until after they commit suicide.
D34dH053 1 year ago
@D34dH053 It's like saying murderers are indistinguishable from non-murderers until after they commit murder. Therefore all people are murderers. Try again.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne
"It's like saying murderers are indistinguishable from non-murderers until after they commit murder"
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Murderers who act from mental instability show indicative signs of instability. those who act out of passion would not.
The problem: christianity is a veil for signs of instability. Claiming that talking donkeys existed and a virgin gave birth would be considered signs of instability if it wasn't for religion. i.e. the only reason people are in insane asylums is lack of adherents.
D34dH053 1 year ago
@GiDaOne
"Therefore all people are murderers. Try again"
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One does have to ignorant of reality to make this claim.
Again: People who murder for reasons other than passion do show signs of instability. Murderers who act out of passion don't show signs and are indistinguishable.
How can one distinguish mental instability from religion?
Leprechauns exist=instable
Talking goats/gods/men made out of magical clay and life blown from the nostrils of that god/talking snakes/virgin births =stable?
D34dH053 1 year ago
@D34dH053 I believe that there is a very big difference between the kind of delusion, stemming from real mental instability, of somebody who sees and experiences fantastical creatures and such, and someone who believes in a god. Christopher Hitchens once quoted somebody who famously said that he never saw a barrel of oil. Now imagine that you have been brought up to take for granted the existence of something, even though that something doesn't exist. Uninformed? Yes. Mentally unstable? No.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne "I believe that there is a very big difference ..."
Okay, you've stated your opinion.
Can you tell us what it is based on?
Mere popularity is no measure of sanity,
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 No of course not. But for people who see hallucinations or suffer from generally recognized mental conditions there is usually some kind of medical or genetic cause and there usually is some harm involved. On the other hand, if you have been told something is true your whole life long, and everybody around you also believes it, it would be extremely difficult for anyone to recognize this. Most religious people are otherwise sane, healthy and productive. (see next part)
GiDaOne 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 You list a lot of negative traits of Christians as opposed to non-believers (or non-Christians?). Even if all those are true, it may simply be that Christianity appeals more to people who are living in those circumstances than most first-world citizens. I don't think your argument is valid.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 A believer might point out that the Bible also says there is none without sin, and that your verse refers to not sinning in God's eyes. And of course there are some Christians who live in peace and harmony. They might also point out to you that most charity organizations (at least it used to be I think) are Christian. And even if Christians fail, it does not in itself invalidate any doctrine.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Could you please point me to your sources that state that Christians have "have higher rates of suicide, addiction,
divorce, mental illness, and incarceration
than their non-believing neighbours"? Also, where did Jesus state that his followers would have perfect unity?
GiDaOne 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@GiDaOne "most charity organizations (at least it used to be I think) are Christian."
That MAY have been true in the past.
It is not true today,
as atheism is rapidly overtaking religion worldwide.
And many Xian charities are plagued
with jet-owning, multi-millionaire directors
(think "Pat Robertson").
All in all, Christianity has been
one of the great curses of mankind.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Trying to get to diagnose eg. your average healthy productive Christian to get diagnosed as mentally ill would never stand up in any court. That being said I don't deny that there are brands of religion that are conducive to dangerous or harmful acitvity which infringes on the mental health of their participants.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@D34dH053 The term "delusion" is also technically incorrect. It is usually connected to pathological behaviour. Most of us have friends and family who are religious. Would you refer to them as pathological nutcases? In most cases, no. Now let's look at the definition of a cult. A cult is: (1) a minority belief = not true for Christianity (2) harmful to others = not true in most cases regarding Christianity, although I would agree that in a few cases, some harm is done.
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne DSM iv,
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders,
has caveats scattered throughout it
to exclude religion from being classified as a mental disorder.
For instance (this is from old memory, not ver batim),
there will be a description of psychotic symptoms,
including discussions and relationships with invisible persons
and beliefs that one's actions affect the decisions of rulers,
and there will be a footnote:
"except for members of recognized religious traditions".
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@GiDaOne Even mainstream Xians pretend to be dead.
"I have been crucified with Christ
and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me."
Galatians 2:20
They also practice ritualized cannibalism.
Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man,
and drink his blood,
ye have no life in you."
John 6:35
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@GiDaOne
Story of Abraham. It's right there in the category of being an "Abrahamic" religion.
dhx84 1 year ago
@dhx84 And your point is?
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne
Let's see. The Bible has countless lines involving genocide and killing infidels. And most notably, Abraham thought the murder of his own son was something God genuinely expected of him.
Much as you would like to sweep this under the rug as non-applicable, or not something "moderate" Christians endorse, it's still relevant.
"Oh well, those extremists don't represent what *I* think."
No, they're just old-school. And you're still in a death cult. A nihilistic religion. Sorry.
dhx84 1 year ago
@dhx84 First of all, I have left the faith some time ago already. I thought I have made that clear in a previous comment. I just attempt to have as balanced a view as possible, which I don't think the author of the video does. Secondly, although the Bible condones a lot of behaviour that is seen as immoral by today's standards, you will notice that most denominations shun the kind of physical violence that is associated with death cults (physical abuse, suicide, murder).
GiDaOne 1 year ago
@GiDaOne " a high probability of causing harm "?
The price of Christianity has been war, murder, slavery,
human sacrifice, censorship, book burnings, the Dark Ages,
witch hunts, cannibalism, sexual abuse, genocide, shame, fear, enmity,
the repression of science, the destruction of nations and cultures...
Thank reason atheism is outstripping religion, finally!
Education dissolves religion.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Since sacrificing young virgins wasn't a reason I guess I'm not in a death cult.
scullkrusher 1 year ago
Excellent display of ignorance! BRAVO! BRAVO!
nobuckle40 1 year ago
@nobuckle40 Since I am not the one in a death cult, I would wouldn't be throwing stones nobuckled40.
Netwriter 1 year ago 20
@Netwriter Yes you wpould ,lying little bitch!
2icebaked 1 year ago
@nobuckle40:
Indeed, a fine spotlight on the ignorance and stupidity of religionists.
AkataBackUp 1 year ago
Haha, awesome
Quionic7 1 year ago
Hey! Before you bash the bible, you better read St. Luke 17:35 "There will be two women grinding together", blah, blah. I was so deeply moved by that passage that I went to a video rental store and asked the attendant if they had any video's pertaining to that verse and was told they had an entire section dedicated to it! Jackpot! Praise the lord!
morgan4xl 1 year ago 8
@morgan4xl Tribbing in the bible... damn, them old desert dwellers were a freaky bunch of loons. The Bible, the original porn!
TheRedneckAtheist 1 year ago
Yes, the Abrachamic religions are alot about death. But at the same time, nobody really dies according to them. Everybody is immortal. Everybody gets life after death, either in heaven or hell. So I guess Abrachamic death is just a word for going to the next place. Only for atheists (and perhaps other religions) does death really mean death.
Astillion 1 year ago
@Astillion
"But at the same time, nobody really dies according to them. Everybody is immortal. "
_
So they are wrong as we know people die. Unless your great, great, great, great, great, great grandparents are still living and able to send you birthday presents...
If they are not living in the context for which life can be observed by living beings, then what use is it that people consider them "alive"? How is calling them "living" being honest?
D34dH053 1 year ago
@Astillion
"Only for atheists (and perhaps other religions) does death really mean death."
_
Actually, for all objective demonstration, to atheists/theists, death means the ceasing of life as it can be observed.
"Everybody gets life after death, either in heaven or hell"
_
So, nobody experiences death, but they get life after death...this is your claim?
Either way, yours is a statement sounding like it's from someone in a death cult.
D34dH053 1 year ago
@D34dH053 It is not my claim, but a suggestion that christians and others claim this. I believe death is the end. And I also believe that it´s meaningless to speculate about things that is impossible to know, like if there is life after death. If there is, we will find out when we die.
Astillion 1 year ago
@Astillion
"It is not my claim..."
_
Poe's law.
"meaningless to speculate about things that is impossible to know, like if there is life after death. If there is, we will find out when we die."
_
I mostly agree.
D34dH053 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 "going/gone to the next place". This statements support my statement. In christianity, death means going to the next place, which is heaven or hell. There, your existance continues, you are not dead. Atheists believe that when you die, you die. There is no next place. Only atheists believe that death marks the end. Have I made it more clear?
Astillion 1 year ago
@Astillion "This statements support my statement. "
Yes, you've made it clear.
Embarrassingly clear.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Obviously, I have not. I read your last comment again, and there has been a misunderstanding. You think I´m a christian, and I thought you were. I went to your page and saw that you were an atheist, and so am I. I wrote in an earlier comment that I believe death is the end. My point was that religious people (not me) believe everyone to be immortal, because of the afterlife. I find it a bit annoying that I always have to point out my atheism here on YouTube.
Astillion 1 year ago
Exelente video.
jotematica 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Oh look another atheist bashing christianity, what else is new.
craigdb84 1 year ago
@craigdb84 Oh look, another christian claiming truth telling is bashing, what else is new?
Netwriter 1 year ago 54
@craigdb84 Holy fucking shitbricks Batman, look at this moron! The entirety of his uploads are Kent "I'm loving the prision rape" Hovind lectures! Wow...
Hello craigdb84 you silly science hater you *pinches cheeks*, you're just so adorable.
TheRedneckAtheist 1 year ago 5
@craigdb84:
Oh look, another science-hating, Hovind dick-sucking religionist drone, what else is new?
Yo Mr. Religionist Drone, how does it feel that your mini-messiah Hovind has become a label of stupidity and willful ignorance, that when someone want to label someone as extra-ordinarily stupid on a subject, they write him off as "The Kent Hovind of (Insert subject)"? Ain't life's a bitch when your religion is made a laughing stock? xD
AkataBackUp 1 year ago
Great video, however I believe you could add another question:
Did your cult created endless misery for women, torture for those not belonging to it, and murder in the million? If the answer is yes, then you are in a CULT!
Daud2008 1 year ago
Yea, I grew up in a big death cult called The United Methodist Church. It's just a moderate death cult though, no big deal. :D
theshredator 1 year ago
"Hes dead, Jim!" Or in this case: "Hes dead, James!"
Of course, Christians will say that Christ's sacrifice was a triumph OVER death, but the ghoulish fixation on the gory details of his suffering give away the morbidly fetishistic nature of their theology. What after all is the "good news" that Jesus brought to the world but the salvific nature of his own impending demise? His life was a mere prelude to this bloody climax, serving only as filler leading to the main event. Death cult, indeed!
owlcowl 1 year ago 3
It is not just Abrachamic religions, but the Mitra cult and all Egyptian cults were death cults.
skinnyjohnsen 1 year ago
Good take. Something to think about.
Darw1n1st 1 year ago
Keep making videos I love them.
SuperAmericanViking 1 year ago
5 stars, i see it as a death cult. I always wonder why hypocrites hate Scientology but think popular religions are A-OK
eviltube1111 1 year ago
omg i lolled!
EXILEIS 1 year ago
well, i guess one thing is for sure though.....death. can't get away from it!
Thrashaero 1 year ago
Well, this is a dark and deathly world we live in. Nobody gets out of here alive.
CanadiaNecro1 1 year ago
Great video mate!!
BEAST636 1 year ago
One of your best yet, Netwriter - thought provoking as ever.
CantankerousTrencher 1 year ago
Ordering of Abrahamic dealth cults, from most death fetishist to least:
1) Christians
2) Muslims
3) Jews
GetMeThere1 1 year ago
Another great one! Thanx
BenSaidIt 1 year ago
Very good video! :)
Guildhelm 1 year ago
Ah, short and sweet and straight to the point - great video!
vivalaleta 1 year ago
Very lol!!
ContinuumXT 1 year ago
Another masterpiece by Netwriter.
AliCarmona 1 year ago
Let's face it, Xians have no choice other than to focus on death. They certainly can't deliver on promises in this life, and we don't really want them focussed on threatening and delivering death in the manner of insecure Muslims.
musekiteer 1 year ago 2
so funny yet so true. great video
Nowitzki25 1 year ago
I am a little bit disappointed by that video. I think it was oriented and not neutral.
Also several questions are kind of duplicate of one another.
Like with the symbol of the cult. The 2 first questions are the same. Also putitng "death" in a sentence is not enough to make it a valid criteria.
To me in those 10 questions, only a few are valid.
I nevertheless agree with the overall meaning of the video.
StormWolf01 1 year ago
@StormWolf01 I completely agree.
djzapz 1 year ago
No too all. lol
Brianswers 1 year ago
epic
Craigipedia 1 year ago
fav'd that one dude!
NATEandtheMONKEY 1 year ago
This is a dangerous aspect of their "cult". Any regard for the world and society is irrelevant if it gets more souls to their death god. So big wars, environmental damage, anything...it just doesn't matter. Only the afterlife is important to fundamentalists.
TheTechnomage 1 year ago 2
It's good you are informing them, keep up the good work! They don't even see it either.
LOLZ
abdishtar 1 year ago
LOL at the Shawn of the Dead image. And good vid BTW.
Finkeren 1 year ago
All Abrachamic religions (and may be not just they) are death cults.
grozde 1 year ago 40
@grozde ..almost all religion's are death cult...i say almost because i don't know them all.......and 5*..netwriter
1deanwdaniel 1 year ago
@grozde There is no afterlife in Judaism as far as I know.
GMLSX 1 year ago
@GMLSX
I thought jews thought there was a heaven but not a hell.....
Ryoka242 1 year ago
@GMLSX
w w w . jewfaq . org
grozde 1 year ago
@grozde Thank you! Never paid all to much attention to the jews.
GMLSX 1 year ago
HA. Awesome. many lulz here
mrkurt13 1 year ago 3
Brilliant! Haha I never looked at christianity this way - but it does seem like death is a pretty key cornerstone of christian beliefs.
lIThorIl 1 year ago 10